Cowboys Break: Getting to 12

season eighteen, episode number ninety eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Morgan Studios at the Star, presented by Miller Like the Only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys. We were talking about the Cowboys big win last night. Cowboys win twenty seven thirteen over the Tennessee Titans, a team that that didn't really roll out all of their best players. But as it the Cowboys said after the game, they are NFL players

as well, and a win is a win. I will never be one to go on there and and think there needs to be an apology for a win. It's the NFL. Wins are hard. They gotta win on the road and we move on. You know why. I mean, I've convinced why I think I know what you're about to say, but yeah, go ahead. That's because we were here, right, we were here at two thousand and eleven. Yeah, well

we started working here. It was five eleven, five eleven, five and eleven, and it was like so so winning on the road by fourteen points in December, you'd be like, wow, wins the party, you know, and um, so it's it's hard. It's hard to do that. I get it. In our world now, it's like nothing's ever good enough. But I mean,

I don't know, I thought it was. It was. It was ugly at times, but I mean a methodical in the way that this team keeps playing and you know, and and to pick it up and win like that. It was like all right, and good win, let's move on, keep keep rolling to get a two touch down win on the road in December. As Nick said, Brian, I mean, I think it's got to be you want to Yeah, there was certainly worth some moments, and we'll talk about some of the moments that that you want to see

them be better. Yeah, but the fact is that's still a big thing. Like that's still a good thing, right, Yeah, you got to figure out and December football is all about winning, and it's all about positioning, and it's all about putting pressure on others to have to win. And they did just that. I know in the you know, all week long we were talking about this game. It's just, hey, find a way to keep the pressure on Philadelphia. Go

and win a game. And I was saying on our pregame show last night, I don't care if it's by one point or one hundred points. Find a way to win, find a way to keep your opportunity to win the division alive, and then and play that way. I think that these times that they go through now are really really good. I think this anytime you can get battle tested, a physical game up front. It wasn't pretty, run block and wise. It was there was a lot of things

going on in that football game. And you know what, it wasn't really about their players. It was about you know, it was about or who they had on the field. It was about your ability to kind of fight through some things. Because you're right, it's not pretty, but December football is not always pretty. December football is about getting to the next one and finding a way to get that done. It was a very physical game, a very tough,

emotional game against Philadelphia. You know, five six days later you come back and you have to play another one. You know, those are the kinds of things that your team gets battle tested. It's better for it. It's better to coach off a win than it is a loss. You know, you're not gonna say it, Derek. I don't know if it's in your rundown, but you know, before on Friday or whatever day we picked games. Wednesday, Brian,

what what score did you have for the Cowboys? I picked it, right, I mean, but I mean it's team Well, you guys big guys have you guys have this big like graphic and it's got your name. So I figure, so you figure if you're if you make this big graphic and put it your name on there, you have to at least give it a go. But now, I mean, you nailed it in prime time, thank you. But that's that's where. But that's to me. I you know, I can't I can't stand. I just wish people could feel

what we feel working here. You know, I wish you could feel the you know, just the this, the the relief of getting wins and moving on and not and not having to be four and twelve at this time and think about firing a bunch of coaches and all that stuff like that, or hey, what's gonna happen or what player? And with that and dealing with that, you're dealing with team that is trying to get ready for playoffs.

And that's the thing, and it's hard. It is so hard because you guys are right, we were all part of of a five and eleven program for three years in a row. That that's no fun for anybody, you know. It's not fun for the fans. It's especially not fun for the men and women that work in this building, you know. So I wish that people could sit in our chairs. I really really do and feel what this is like, and you would understand. And I'm not trying to say that we're better than you that kind of thing.

I'm just saying we've been blessed to be able to be here and feel how hard it is to win these games. And when you win them, there's so much relief and it's like, Okay, oh we got another one coming up, you know, But that's what the season does. And you're still playing meaningful football to try and win this division. You put a lot of pressure on Philadelphia

to have to make a decision about their quarterback. That's right, And and you know, I just feel like this team, it's tough to get to get a grasp on them

after a game like that. I'm talking about the Cowboys last night, because you know, you look at it and in one hand, you could say, well, you know, they didn't really play that great in Tennessee, who didn't have a lot of their main guys, and so is this worrisome for the season coming up in the playoffs and all that, or you can take the other side and go, this is a damn good football team because you go out, don't play your best game and you still sleepwalk for

a quarter and a half and win by fourteen points. That that's that's kind of exciting because if this team does play to the level of their competition, well great, I heard you say this morning. That's a good Yeah, it's a good point, because fine, it's going to get better than this. And and you just got to get through it and get through it. And the Jacksonville was tough, I mean, but Dak has come back from the injury.

They've not scored less than twenty four points. It was twenty four and twenty seven last night, the two lowest they're average in like thirty four points a game. They've lost two road games in overtime, two teams that are a little above average and fighting to get in the playoffs. Like it's it's going, it's it's this is pretty good. This is a really good football team. Twenty four wins in two years. I don't care. I mean, yeah, you care about the playoffs, but these fans are like, I

don't care about anything else. No, you got to build something here, and that's what they've done. Twenty four wins in two years is really amazing. And I even point this out for those fans out there that are looking for and I get it. Let me get first of all, say I get it. A lot of this is the defense mechanism. You know, people who are trying to convince themselves. Don't get too excited because I've been here before and I don't want to be disappointed. I get you're playing

that defense mechanism. It is. It absolutely is not doing. But beyond that, though, I mean, I think when you look at it. The one thing that I keep looking at about this team. As much as people want to you know, style point wins at the end of the day, like they have beaten teams that are playoff caliber teams. There five one against those teams. There. I think there's seven and one against winning record teams. I'm not sure about that. The five and one verse five. Yeah, they

are they are killing. I shouldn't say kill, they are killing. They are killing it when it comes to playing quality teams this year and last year, that was not the k s. Last year, you look at the record, they're winning a lot of the games against teams that weren't as good teams are really good, as a little bit shaky. That has not been the case this year. Not only are they winning, they beat the breaks off Minnesota that is a right now the number two seed in the NFC,

and they destroyed them in their place. There are a lot of things to look at to say this team has some things working in its favor that make you think going in the playoffs, this could be a team that could have some success. Now, let's also be realistic in knowing that the NFL playoffs is a crapshoot. Like when you get there, it is one and done. So every week you gotta bring your best or you gotta

have some things fall away. And by the way, they've been Super Bowl teams and had some things fall their way. But you gotta get fortunate, you gotta be good with injuries, you gotta be able to play good footballs, all those things that come together in January and February in order to win a championship. They will be in the hunt. They're as good as any team that's out there that's in the hunt. Then we'll see what happens. And that's the way you have to approach it. No, I absolutely

agree with that. You know, and I look at this team and you talk about since Dack's returned, and they don't run the ball particularly well. Last night, I think Tennessee did a great job. Tennessee's numbers will tell you regardless of who's playing up front, they are not going to let you run the ball. That team has the mentality of their head coach Mike Frabel. Their attitude is stop the run and we're going to run on you.

They didn't have their primary runner last night. But the thing about it was as bad as you were running the ball in first down, when you try to run or second down, you still were sixty two percent on third down, and that just and and people will say, well that doesn't carry. That doesn't know. This team on third down since Dack has returned, has been one of the best in the National Football League. It doesn't matter

what down and distance. You could put them in third and thirty and they'll find a way to convert, you know. So to me, when you feel about, well they just didn't do this, no, the one thing that is, the one thing is translating is how this team is finding a way to keeping drives going even if they don't run the football. They run the ball for almost a little over two yards of carry night in that game. But what happened sixteen passes for first downs, five of

them by penalty, five of those by penalty. You put them in a situation where they had to do something illegally to keep you from getting a first down or catching a football. So to me, those are things they told me, Well, these turnovers don't travel. These turnovers don't one year you're leading the league in turnover when you're creating turnovers, you it doesn't translate next year. What's happened,

It's translated. It's yeah, it's the second year in a row that they're getting people to turn the ball over. These things matter when you get to the playoffs. Absolutely, all right, here's gonna do. We're gonna take our early first break. When we come back. Let's talk about the offense. We got some things to talk about there that didn't go right and why maybe some of those things happen. And we also have something that went really right. Historic to be in fact, Nick tweeted about it last night.

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cool dudes. I'm happy for him. We'll see if he can when this when this price, I don't I don't know how anybody beats out of this price. That's a hard thing to do. All right, let's jump in. Let's talk about the offense last night. After going up ten oh there early in the game, they had three straight turnovers, the fumble, two interceptions. Still end up scoring twenty seven points on the night, but let's talk about those that that portion of the game where it just kind of

the wheels kind of fell off a little bit. What happened on those three plays? Uh, and where do you kind of look at this and and what are you Is there anything you take from that part of the game that makes you a little more concern going forward? I mean, okay, concern going forward? Yeah, yeah, it's okay, because I mean you have a quarterback that is turning the ball over. He's making a lot of plays. He's making plays, and they just don't I mean they go

hand in hand. You can't have a guy that's going to keep, you know, making some of these throws and having the mental toughness to keep going forward and not letting it bother them, like like it's really early impressive. But he is turning the ball over. So if you want to be worried moving forward, yes, because you're gonna face better teams. And if he turns the ball over at the wrong time in the playoffs, like you said,

it's a different beasts, you could lose. You could. But he also could make that throw that he that he made to Shultz for the touchdown in the in the same game. And so I'll take the guy. I'll take the guy that's not afraid to sling it and and that that is scoring points for this team. The turnovers, yes, you can't deny them. He threw one really bad throw. I think in the entire game. I think he threw one bad throw in the game, but I mean the

other one. I mean again, Hendershot is he's qualifying for the Olympics right now. And with the with the rest of his teammates, it was hilarious. The best volleyball team they are, I mean, I mean I would give the University of Texas or run for the right for sure. Yeah, those receivers, and then you know I can't have volleyball team without Diggs. I mean, I mean, yeah, we mean, we've got the squad ready to go. Oh Diggs. Diggs had a volleyball moment too, he did, He did, Ryan.

I mean you you might have a different take on it. I mean, I'm not gonna say that I'm not worried about it, because you should be because he keeps happening. But I'll take I'll take the good because there's more good than bad. I'll take it. Yeah. I think to me, with the with the situation with the quarterback is and maybe I need to have this rant like I did about the penalties, because remember I said the penalty going to change. It's not gonna change. They're gonna keep ben

never every game. Now they've had three penalties, so maybe I need to will in a Dak is not going to throw any more interceptions. Um, you know, I think Nick is absolutely right about this. I just you know, his aggressiveness. They're the interceptions that bother me with Dak are the ones who I don't think he sees the guy. I think his intention, Yeah, the defender. I think that those are the ones that get me. That like, damn,

what was he looking at? You know, Oh, he didn't see the cover, he didn't see the rotation, or he didn't see the linebacker. Those are the ones that get me, the ones that he's trying to fit in there to like adult and Chultz on that play man that is is that's a tough throw. I mean, I'm not defending the guy. He probably but if you if you look at how the route developed for everybody else, he might as well just have taken the sack because I mean, but that's Dak and that that I'm not going to

give up on a play. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna let this. I'm gonna try and find a way to make this. I'm gonna stand real tall on that front left leg and I'm gonna throw it as hard as I can and hope that it makes it. But that the way the Titans played their coverage, he had no chance on that ball. I mean, it had to be perfect, and at that point he wasn't perfect. A little banged up, need you know. But like I say, when he gets really stiff on that front left leg

and lets it fly, two things are gonna happen. We're gonna all be cheering or it's gonna be you know, defense defense, you know, because that's how it is with him. But that he that throw that he makes there, that ball had no chance. It had no chance. And that's where that's where you almost with Dak. How do you

get that out of him? The the the fight for another day play, because if you watch the way it broke down, like I said, nobody was open and nobody was open, and and the and and the probably the guy that was covered the most was the guy he threw it to. Yeah, you know that's how. And then you got an all pro safety standing there too, just kind of ready to you know, drive on the ball.

So I don't know how to take that, just eat it and fight for another day, because that's that's the way I'm I'm the guy that says when he's muddied and bloodied, he plays better. Maybe I'm wrong about that. Maybe he shouldn't be muddied and bloody because that makes him play even more intense. Yeah, his numbers yesterday twenty nine to forty one, seventy one percent completion. He's like

rattling off seventy every week. It seems like at this point completing a high percentage of his past it's two u D eighty two yards, two touchdowns and two interceptions and eighty five point six rating now was pretty much determined by those two interceptions. That being said, and Brian,

I think he brought up an interesting point there. Do you guys think that a conversation should be had if it has not already been had where dak is told, Hey, maybe we ought to back off that level of aggression just a bit, or do you or do you think it's better to say as you were saying, Nick, Hey, I'm gonna I'm going to account for the fact that they're gonna be there's gonna be a minus play here and there as as Macartey called it last night, there's gonna be some of those, but man if I don't,

if I let him keep that same aggressiveness, there's also gonna be plays like a touchdown to Schultz, like path to to t Y Hilton. They're gonna be those moments in games where he's gonna let it fly and we're gonna see something really positive and really great happen as a result. Yeah. I mean it's funny because I mean we probably were sitting here seven, eight years ago, ten years ago talking about Tony Romo about this is kind

of what Romo was, and you had to live with it. Um, And and you know, and we know where it got him and where it didn't take him. We we we we get that. So UM, the answer to your question, I think is yes. And I think that they have had that conversation. UM. I think the center of the field, especially late, especially red zone type stuff that's not good

Green Bay. Like we saw the interceptions. UM, I think that you're seeing if you're gonna take the chances and stuff like that high out of bounds throw like and Schultz has had a couple touchdowns like that, Um, even third and twenty nine, third and nineteen last night. So it deep deep ball to gallop. If it gets caught, great, If it gets incomplete, okay, if it gets intercepted, as long as you make the tackle, that's a great punt. So,

by the way, great tackle by Tyler Smith. He saved it to be a ten ten game at half on the on the pick, it could have been pick on the pick Tyler Smith. Tyler Smith, Yeah, he said he saved a touchdown right there. I mean hustling, but yeah too. I think that with Dak, the conversations you have with him about that, I think he looks at you and goes okay, but then in the heat of the battle, it's he doesn't remember the conversation, you know. And and that's the thing I think that you, I think you

really appreciate the fact that he did. He wants the will to win and the will to complete the play and make the play. But what I think that the one thing we we we cannot talk about Dak Prescott for all the good things he's done, because of the interceptions. Yeah, that's the thing right now. Nobody wants to tell, you know, talk about the throws, the Shultz or anything like that. What they want to talk about is, well, what happened

with Hendershot? Well, what happened with That's the first question. See he gets a press conference last week. Sometimes he gets lucky the other like last week when he threw the ball to Gallop in the on the front pylon for the touchdown. Yeah, I think he was throwing the ball to Pollard in the back corner. If that ball gets through, Bradbury intercepts it, that's that's the margin. That's the line this guy rides every time he throws the football. He rides that line of like Okay, I'm let's just

one fly. Oh it's called great or oh wait, they just made an interception. So I think they talk to him. I think he knows it. But man, his turnovers are really overshadowing how well he's really playing. So what's changed in his career? Because his first two seasons he wouldn't throw any interception, isn't it? I think it is that this year his teammates have kind of what is it, six or seven of the interceptions have been situations where

it's deemed to not have been his fault. I mean, if you take those away, his numbers probably in line with what he typically does in a season. As far as interceptions, it's concerned right, Yeah, I agree on that on the taking it away, but but also I do think you could find six or seven passes where he probably almost threw an interception, and the yeah, but isn't that? Isn't that like every quarterback in the league. I think that's why I used to remember why I seemed like

they have a little bit more, but no forms. The worst Brett Farres would always the ball would always hit somebody's hand, but they couldn't catch it too, because his receivers couldn't catch it. I mean, it's just that happens around the league. You know. Defensive backs aren't great catches. Typically.

We Brett Farre's first season in Green Bay just real quick, Mike Homegren, we had Mark Burnell as a quarterbacks a backup, and Ron Wolfe, the general manager went to Mike Homegren after like one of those twenty three interceptions first season and said, listen, if you want to play Burnell, I unders Dan and Mike's like, no, we gotta keep going with this guy. This guy is gonna get us there.

You know, that's the kind of sometimes the thoughts that you have to have, like the general manager who brought far Vin is thinking, if you want to change the quarterbacks because of the turnovers, I'm not going to stop you. But the coach is like, no, no, no, no, We're gonna keep playing with this guy. This is one of those things that with with with Dak, it's it's his DNA. It is his DNA. He is not going to give up. And that will either that will either take you there

or it will absolutely kill you. And you know you have to be willing to live with both. I think let's talk about Ceedee Lamb last night. He catches eleven passes of the fourteen targets, he received hundred yards. He became the third player. Cassie something real quick too. Let's think about when Dak started, just real quick, when Jack started in twenty sixteen. Who was this receiving corps where you're like Bryce Butler, Daz Beasley. I mean they had

was Will Williams here. I see. I'm just thinking, I wonder if with if things change with your supporting cast, were you more willing yeah, yeah, safety see, but I wonder I wonder if there was more was there guys that caught the ball better? You know? With that crew? I mean are you more. Yeah, I'm trying to also be Could it also be though two this year, you look at the receiving cores, including the tight ends, there's

a lot of new faces out there. Dad didn't play for a lot of the early part of the season. Could that also be a part of it, at least on the players where guys aren't catching the ball, that that maybe there's the miscommunication where guys just aren't on the same page. I'm trying to find what is his willingness to just go ahead and throw it, because maybe when you're when you're like when you're just the guy and you're like, I'm not going to change plays. I'm

gonna throw the ball where they tell me too. I'm going to hand the ball off to this back. You know, those are the kinds of things I think that you think about earlier career, and now you wonder if the personnel has changed, is there more of a willingness to throw it? Sound like, you know, the receivers they had back then, some quality receivers probably should have you know, probably should have you know, made some really really good throws with those cats. Yeah, all right, let's talk about

ceedee lamb. He became last night the third player in Cowboys history. How this shocked me. There have only been three players in Cowboys history have had a season of over where they had over a hundred receptions. He became the third Michael Irvin Jason Witten of the other two. My question for you, guys, this is a kind of a big picture question, but thinking about where you thought Ceedee Lamb was at the moment that the Cowboys decided they no longer wanted to continue with a Mariy Cooper

to where he is now? How much better is he or is it exactly what you expected from him at this point? No, No, I didn't expect that. I can't say that. I've been on record. Somebody's gonna go find it if if I said otherwise, oh, they'll definitely find No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't like the Mary Cooper trade and I still don't really, because I mean about making you feel No, hold on, was the Ron Bland the fifth round pick that you got for that or no, I think it was might have been well let's go,

I am, I'm playing. I don't know whoever it is. I mean, I make you feel a little bit, a little bit Land, but no, I didn't. I didn't love it, and I didn't and I and I said, we will see about Cedee Lamb because he hasn't shown that yet and he needs I mean, who's the Who's the Cede Lamb that Cooper had, you know, who's gonna be his guy? But he has been amazing and I think it's start. Honestly, I think it has all really started with him when they started talking about Odell. I totally agree, as I

think that's where it all began. Absolutely that he had to stand there and answer questions about not being good enough that they had to bring somebody else in. And I think that put him on notice. And I'll tell you another thing. I think they're moving him around a

lot more down. Yeah, and I think that I think that the one thing that I'm so critical of Kellen Moore of in play calling is when you utilize I know what I saw at Oklahoma with Ceedee Lamb, and I'm seeing that right now with the way he's playing that you know that one of my favorite players they run is the air row that they run and they moved the pocket and they run the arrow in through the defense. As it's all rotating one way. Was that the Giants game that he dropped? Yeah, that was three

or four exactly, that's the play. I thought they were going to run to t Y Hilton. I was thinking, Oh, how do you get t Y Hilton involved? Well, he's a little guy, so you run him through all that

trash and then get him open back there. But they run the play with they run the play with Lamb, and it's like, as soon as you see the pocket move and Dak turns back to the left, You're thinking twenty eight yard game every single time, because I know somebody on that side over there's open, and it's usually Lamb. But I think that Kellen Moore. I I challenged Kellen Moore in the summertime. Go watch his Oklahoma tape. Whatever they whatever Lincoln Riley did for him, you need to

think about because that's the player. And we're starting to see that with this guy. Yeah, and I think it's one hundred percent. I wish so Mary Cooper was still here in though, moving around Me too, Me too. And and you know I've I've said this before about you know,

Dez and Cole Beasley. You know, des wasn't a that really moved around a lot, and I think I think it made a career for Cole Beasley because I don't believe Cole Beasley could have played if des was playing in the slot and all that, um, all the way around, I don't think Cole Beasley has a role um. So I think I think they kind of worked well together.

But the best in the league, the best receivers in the league line up everywhere, and they create matchups for people that say, oh, I'm just take your best corner and cover him wherever he came. Double guy that moving all the time exactly. Yeah. So um, and that's why corners that do travel, if they can also play in the slot, then that certainly helps them because these the best receivers in the game are lining up everywhere. And

I think you're right, CD's doing that. He's lining up everywhere. Yeah. Let's talk about another receiver, t Y Hilton last night, most production he's assets he's been here. From the standpoint of number of receptions, you have four receptions, five targets fifty yards or twenty eight? How many past three? Yeah, I mean at one point we were like catches is it a first down? That's what That's what I was

asking that my my vision of what Odell Beckham. Remember I was talking about the green back, about the green Bay fourth and three. I have an option? Now, yeah, I have something I could. He caught that ball in the He caught that ball in the drag and made a guy miss. And now what is It's like a twenty yard game. It should have been a first down and like, but no, he's gonna he's gonna take nineteen

more yards out of that play. That's what this team was looking for to me when they were hunting Odell Beckham, and they're yeah, they're looking for that guy on third down, you throw them the ball and it's a twenty yard game and and no offense to any other player on how it's done. Okay, But but one of the big things about Odell, other than other than being injured, was just how's this gonna fit what you know? Right in the middle of the season. We kind of know what

we think we know of him and all that. And again, he might have been better, maybe he would have been or could could be or whatever, but he's not gonna have a five catch game like that for sixty yards and makes them really key plays. And talk to four or five reporters and say, am I good? Am I good? And kind of sneak out without the camera's coming and be like, okay, good, that's not Odell. That's not what it's going to be. And I'm not saying that's a

bad thing, because everybody's their own way. But I'm just saying t Y comes in, he's doing his job, he's blending. He fits and he's not trying to get it. He's not trying to take he's so happy for CD and all that. Again, I'm not talking about Odell. I'm talking about what's Ty has done, and it's fitting perfectly. That's what they want. This is a move that probably at the end of the day, as Stephen Jones would like

to say this, probably they caught a break. They probably caught a break not having O'Dell Beckham come in here and have to rehab in all the questions about that. And at least you're getting stump, you're getting stuff out of t Y Hilton, You're getting a healthy player that's making plays. Yeah, it's interesting. Last night and you mentioned CD in the locker room afterwards. CD was talking about having t Y on the team and what that does

and He's like, look, team's on a double team. He can go for it, right, because that's the beauty of having somebody like ty. He is an experience, not just an experienced receiver, a really good experienced receiver. And if they can keep him healthy, which that's really been his

issue is staying healthy. If they can keep him healthy, he adds a lot to this team from the standpoint, and not only the big plays, but as we saw last night, some of those shorter plays and he could turn into longer plays because he has the ability to get the yards. That's the guy was looking for it when they were hunting these receivers. I was looking for somebody a third down, you throw them the ball and it turns into a big first down and then a

big play. Derek said that in the press box talking about Yeah. To me, it's exactly what what Brian was talking about. Like, how was the barbecue, asked? And I heard it was good. It's pretty good, good, all right, compared to Jacksonville. We were coming up Jacksonville. So let's be clear what else you talked about. The barbecue was better? Now, Nick cat a little moment he didn't get his chance to eat his barbecue and self impos whatever it's like, Yeah,

it was still good. It was a good barbecue. It wasn't my best weekend for eating, but no, it was not. Oh, I was gonna say t Y and CD. Yeah, the play of the game wasn't thrown to either one of them, and it wasn't even caught. I mean the past interference. Yeah, fifty two or one yard past interference. I mean that's one of those where you just think, I guarantee you there are people that are like, what's the college rule again?

I mean, doesn't have to be spot on when well, when your team get ye perfect, when you're the Titan fan, you're thinking, give me the fifteen yards, don't get in. Al Michaels was even surprised, like, fifty one yard okay, he like hugged him, you know, he was hugging his waist. He can't do that. Yeah, all right as a bailout play. I mean that that changed everything momentum the game. That's Dak not giving up on a play. Yeah, that's what

he does. I'm gonna throw it. Two weeks in a row, it's been a fifty one and a fifty two yard pass from here to there. Yeah, that's really changed the game. Yep. Absolutely, all right, we're gonna take our final break. We'll come back. We got to talk about the offensive line, hopefully get to the defense as well. Got some injuries to talk about on that offensive line and what that could mean for the Cowboys going forward. Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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goes back McCarthy like, where's that right? That's the one he always wears. He wore his yesterday. Yeah, okay, he did when he wore the By the way, man, what a field to have to wear all white uniforms on. That justus a mess. And they're playing a bowl game there tomorrow, are they? Yeah? Yeah? What wait? What are you talking? What are you talking about? Ze Zeke? He's I mean, he was just sitting there just did it

did look like that? But uh, you know, he had a game that just like he scores another touchdown, another milestone for him, nine straight games with a touchdown. The amazing part about that is like Emmett did it back in ninety five, took off his helmet every single time, right, every time. And I don't think he won MVP that year, but he set the record for most touchdowns in a season that year in twenty five. I mean, Emmett was the dude and they were into the Super Bowl and

all that, and Zeke it's like nine in a row. Quietly, you know, he's not the main guy right now. But but I will say this is everyone that says Derrick Henry though they would have, you know, I would have been a different game with Henry, and it probably would have been. I think the Cowboys miss Pollard, maybe not as much, but they definitely missed Pollard in the game. I mean they missed that one two plays. Well, they

missed some blocks too. Yeah, they missed blocks in this game. Yeah, they had they had going back and watching and they there was some point of attack stuff. The tight ends weren't particularly very good in this game. They had some problems getting up on the second level let linebackers run through. I don't know if Pollard would have made much of

the inside running aspect of their game. And then there were some cuts that Zeke tried to make that normally Zeke just kind of pushed the hole and it's a gain of five or your spill for six instead of trying to cut it and now it's a gain of two kind of a thing. So yeah, to me watching, there was some. There was some times where they got buckled. I mean, Tyler Smith got buckled a couple of times. Beadish got buckled one time. I mean they really and

even even Zach Martin, he's trying to help. He's trying to help Tyrn Smith on a play, so he goes really far down inside and as he's going, now he has to adjust back and linebacker comes right through and makes the tackle behind him. And it's a play where you're kind of think and if it's it's it. Maybe it's muscle memory for Zach Martin when he's used to play with Steele that he has to help. So he like slams that guy all the way to Tyron Smith.

Tyron already had him. Yeah, and now you see Zach Martin kind of go oh damn, you know, and now he has to just back. There was some. There were some. There were some battles they lost at the point of attack, and there was some run through plays that really really run through linebackers. That really hurt them in this game to run in the football. Speaking of the offensive line, Cowboys take another hit there. Uh, their center goes down during the game. Interesting part though, And I don't know

if we know anything about that injury yet. No, I don't, Yeah, I hear anything. Nick, Well, I'm a couple things. Um, I will say three three things that I can kind of go off here. Number one, just seeing him in the locker room after the game walking a little bit without the boot, then he puts the boot on. You can just kind of tell the way he was moving that this wasn't wasn't major. Did get a chance to talk to somebody on the medical staff that said, we'll see,

they weren't overly concerned. And that's pretty much what Jerry said on the radio about an hour ago on one or five three of the fan that that they're not as worried as they maybe they thought that he could be. Doesn't mean he plays this week. I wouldn't put him out against Jonathan Allen and pain, you know. But um, but I'm curious how I don't really I haven't looked at the tape. I'm sure I think you didn't go was just gonna ask about mc governor. The governed at

center was fine. Actually, yeah, he actually was. The thing about it was he the assignments, the way that he is, technique and things like that not an issue when they put Tyler Smith at guard is a little bit of a struggle. That was a struggle for him. And I think what happens to him is he goes from playing tackle to now, okay, I gotta remember my guard assignments here, and maybe gets a little bit overwhelmed and you kind

of see him thinking a little bit too much. He's a really strong guy, but there's be those there will be those times where his base gets like really narrow and he's like fighting the like sit down on a guy and then he and and that's when I'm saying he gets crumpled a little bit and he's dealing with more power and size down there guard and the guy like Tart, you know those guys there's just so damn big inside and they're gonna play teams that have big

inside players and that's gonna be But this was this was a battle that I'm saying that that there were some one on one stuff in this game that they lost, and that I say that's give the Titans some credit for playing the way they did upfront. Yeah, if that, there were obviously three moves that happened as a result of that. One you got governed down at center. Now you got Tyler at a guard, and now Peters was okay. The thing about Peters is it sixty five Peters, you know,

is it? Or is it eight Peters or ten Peters or twelve whatever? You know, that's the thing that you're gonna have to worry about. Going his block on the Dak shot to Schultz. I mean, he did a great job holding the guy right there, and then Dak kind of slightly moved a little bit and then got the launch angle he needed. This makes me wonder, like, what's these next two weeks are going to be interesting because you know, they're not as worried about be oddest. That's

if that's the quote. That's what that makes me think over the next two weeks. I mean like like or were they worried that he was out for the year, and that means he probably doesn't come or may not come back until two weeks into the playoffs, right, right, But I mean I would I would think there's probably a chance that maybe he could, he could give it a go. I mean, there's a chance he could probably

play for the playoff game. Yeah, they're these offensive lineman or like they need their feet and they need their base and all that. But guys like the oddest, they're so tough. They're just like you know, Zack Martin. Zach Martin got rolled late in that game too. I mean he was just kind of by the pile and got rolled up up on the Tyler did too at one point. It's just you know, you're really at the mercy of

how bad somebody's falling around and stuff like that. You know, there will Rason Allen and an NBA get falling into people, you know that, dude, that's believed. But that's what happens. These guys get knocked into people and they fall like into someone's legs just standing there like really beyondest is just blocking and they kind of like, you know, a

guy just gets driven into his legs. Yeah. You know, you know, if if there's gonna be a lot of people in this organization, in the Cowboys Nation, they're gonna be rooting for the Saints, and rightfully so if they do not win, there will be some people that will probably be like, you know what, good because this team needs a break they need There's some players that really kind I'm kind of like, there isn't a loss for me this weekend. No, now, either way, I think there's

a positive that can come out of it. I really have all thought this was gonna be the five seed. You know, this is the five seed. The Eagles are gonna win. What are you gonna be? Okay, we come in here Monday morning and the Saints somehow pull that thing out. Well, let me lay this out for you. There are four games. There are four games weekend. Yeah, there were four games this weekend that could matter for the Cowboys. Sure, you got New Orleans at Philadelphia for

obvious reasons. You've got Carolina at Tampa Bay because right now you could be staying alive. Whoever you're gonna play at the four seed is probably gonna be the winner of this game, absolutely right. Then you've got if Philadelphia should lose, there are two games that then become really important to you. San Francisco at Las Vegas one laws to each there, yeah, and then Minnesota at Green Bay because those are the two teams that if you're gonna

jump Philadelphia. You kind of want to jump them and get something really valuable, which maybe could be a number one seed. Those two teams both have to lose another game for you to be able to jump them if you jump Philadelphia, and Minnesota's playing in Green Bay and green Bay's trying to get into this tournament. Yeah. So there's those four games I think are very important to you, the first two being the noon games New Orleans at Philadelphia,

Carolina at Tampa Bay. See what happens there, and they're based on that. The afternoon would be interesting if if if Philadelphia beats New Orleans turned this thing into a preseason game, do exactly what Tennessee. Give it to Washington,

do what you do. Let's see some of these guys. Yeah, Micah Parsons, you get a nice looking cowboy, Joe Hoodie and everybody else gets which really gives them a great opportunity because now they get more than than the two weeks because they played on Thursday this week, So you really can give them a good amount of time to get rested and healed if you don't have to play that game. But again, though, this is not a preseason game, and the difference is you don't have eighty people and

you don't, No, don't you have to be selective. But the point but the last preseason game is what they're down to, like sixty, I mean it's it's a it's a low number still, like it's sixty five or something like that. Remember it's not the whole eighty. I think they got twenty two players. I think I think it's seventy five to fifty three. I think that's typically the way. What I will say though, is that I'm not really worried about everybody sitting down. I just have a certain

guys like Mica. I feel I feel like MICA's body has taken a toll, and that's an easy one for me. J Ron Curse is another one. Every week it felt like he's just battling, battling, battling to trying to stay in there. Sit him down, Like those are the kind of guys I look at and I'm like, give them a break. Can I ask you one really quick one? Do you rest Nashan? Right? No? And you don't have anything else behind him? Or does he need the experience

he needs to play to play? Maybe not? I mean that's one where I'm like, man, I want to see Calvin Joseph. Let's see what Calvin gott Joseph out there. Yeah, let's see what he can do. And here's the Commanders. I mean, the Commanders might lose this week and it might mean nothing for right, exactly, do we know if we're playing Saturday or Sunday yet? No, we do not do not know what this is all. Just like we're just so weirded out as we go and we'll probably

find out I'm assuming. I think our pr staff said that we may find out like Saturday, I'm sorry, Sunday night, but it could be until Monday, after the Monday night game because the NFL is trying to see how they get their best matchups for that final week. So it's not gonna be Das Washington. That's not gonna be your best matchup now, probably not. I'm guessing we're gonna be

Sunday at Now. See the reason why I don't think you're the reason why I don't think that Dallas Washington will be anything other than an afternoon game, and it could be Saturday, right, it could be the reason why is if the Dallas Washington game matters, it's it means that Philly and the Giants matter, and then you're not gonna put these two games not at the same time. So it's not gonna be a night game. It's not

gonna be same to play at the same time. So I think that they're gonna play in the afternoon together together at the same time if it matters, and if it doesn't matter, then it's not a game you want to put it at night anyways. Yeah, yeah, but but I let me say one more thing about playoff stuff. I did it last year, and I was wrong. I openly cheered for the forty nine ers to go drive it down the field and beat the Rams and that cool.

Now we're at home with the three seed and all that stuff, and that did not work out well at all. I'd rather play Kyler Murray again. They should have done that. So I'm not really as much as everyone wants to say, Man, get Tom Brady out of there, let's play Carolina. We'll be sitting at the press box in Carolina eating krispie creebwe that's going this forming guy keeps running all over their ass, and so I'm like, I'm sorry, I'm still I'm just still don't trust it. I don't want to.

I do not want to play, Tampa. I'm just okay. I'm just not pay i just not caring. It is what it is. Go playing because good point whoever it is. I gotta drive, all right, folks. We appreciate you. That's funny. We appreciate you, guys, Joes. We'll be back. We'll be back on Tuesday. Actually we won't have any shows on Monday, but we'll be back on Tuesday and we will start talking about what's coming up hit next week for the Cowboys.

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