Cowboys Break: Four Corners

We are live, but in all different locations. Everybody's at their own homes, social distancing, and but we got an hour of cow Boys talk here for you guys, live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I got my crew, Nick, Dave, Amber, good to have you guys back with me so we can talk a little Cowboys football. Everybody's doing today, It's about time. It is about time. I mean, da Nick Good. I don't know where y'all were, but yeah, let's party. I've always wanted to be like in The Brady Bunch,

you know. I love that show, and Derek you know what I'm talking about. Dave probably don't, Amber, maybe not, but you know the Brady Bunch, y'all think I'm like eighteen. I swear to God, you keep getting we don't ever aige you you just stay at eighteen forever, right, yeah, exactly? All right, So we got a lot to talk about today. I mean, there's been obviously a lot of news around the Cowboys. Uh now the free agency has begun. They've

been signing players, they've been losing players. Um, and I'll start the conversation right there just looking at it holistically. If you look at all the players that they've lost and they signed, I'll run down a quick lists for you guys here of the guys of the players at the Cowboys have lost. And then I want to ask the simple question if you think the Cowboys are better or worse now than they were when the season ended

or at the end of last season. So they've lost Randall Cobb, Cam Fleming, Xavier Sphilo, Travis Frederick, Robert Quinn, Lee Collins, Byron Jones, Jeff Heath, and Jason Witten. They have added Gerald McCoy, Haha, Clinton Dix and Blake Bell. I think is a tight end that they're they're adding today.

I don't know if that's final yet, but that's what's being discussed at this point other names of guys that are that are actually having conversations with the Cowboys, and then Cowboys sound some of their owns, guys like Sean Lee, Kai for Bath, Amari Cooper, Joe Looney. So where do you guys think they are right now in free agency? Are they better or worse than they were at the

end of the season. I'll start, I'll say worse. I mean, I don't know how they could not be how they can't be worse than what they were last year, just because of the of the guys that they've lost, the big names they lost to Robert Quinn and Byron Jones, and they haven't resigned anybody remotely close to replacing those two guys. So right now you have a need at pass rusher and you have a need at corner. I

think safety, you could say, was a wash. So I'll let the other guys talk about about the other positions, But for me, those two right there, I think you're going into a draft with a big need now at corner and pass rushers. So I think that they're they're worse than what they were. Yeah, like Nick said, I don't think you can even question it to be honest with you. I mean, yeah, Anthony Brown is back, so I mean, okay, the Cowboys have three serviceable corners, but

you didn't replace an all Pro cornerback. As of right now, you don't have a viable replacement for an eleven sack player. And Robert Quinn I know, you know, Tyrone Crawford's still kicking around coming off of hip surgery, didn't play most of last season. That's terrifying, you know, the offense not so much, but as of right now, it doesn't look like they have a viable way to replace Randall Cobb other than the draft. I saw, you know, Philip door

Set signed with Seattle yesterday. So your list of like experienced slot receivers who can step in and do it that are available in free agency is not long at all, which probably prompts you to have to do something in

the draft. It just seems like there's a lot of a lot of work they have to do to cover themselves for the draft, and like, honestly, not that many good players left to do it with, you know, for me, and I'm trying my best to stay calm because as soon as free agency starts every year, I feel that the Cowboys are just kind of laying low, and then you see other teams signing people, and then you're like, Okay, what the heck are the Cowboys doing? Why are they

not signing anybody? And then eventually they start signing some guys. My biggest worry is I don't want them to completely rely on the draft, to have to rely on that, because, like Dave said, like you need the experience. I am tired of sitting around waiting every year. Oh yeah, you know, these guys are gonna grow into this kind of player in the future. And I always say this over and over on this show. I'm like, I'm tired of the future, like I want to now. I want to see guys

coming in with experience and being able to perform this year. So, as of right now, even though that's my feeling and how I feel, I'm still trying to be patient and give this new coaching staff the benefit of the doubt. Let Steven Jones and Will McClay kind of work things down and see how they finally put this team together as a whole. But as of now, I don't think they're better than they were. So let's look at some of those individual guys. They lost Randall Cobb, who is

there their slot receiver. Um, they've lost Travis Frederick now to retirement, big, big, big loss. We'll talk about that a little more in depth. They lost Robert Quinn defensive end pass rusher, and they lost Byron Jones a cornerback. What do you guys think the biggest hole is at this point for them based on the guys that they've lost. Oh, okay, there we go. See I think it's I just like I said a minute ago, at the very least Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis and Cheeto can can do it. And they're not.

They're not Byron Jones by any stretch. But I just like I said, like who is playing right in for this team right now? And that they'll probably add some more guys than the draft is also there, but like, don't feel great about Tyrone Crawford given what's going on with his injury history. And then you have Jalen Jelks and Joe Jackson. I just who is going to line up at that position in Week one? I have no idea. You're not counting on Randy Gregory. I mean it's awesome.

I didn't make a laugh at that, but honestly, hopefully the new CBA lets him come back. You know, the word on the street is that he's applying for reinstatement, and I think the world of Randy. I really hope that for him. But number one, I can't count on it. Number Two, I feel like people think that he got suspended with like fifty career sacks to his name. He's got seven. He has seven career sacks. So as good as that would be, I hardly think it just completely

solves the problem. Right, He is a He is a piece in a puzzle that will need other pieces in order for it to be successful. I think a defensive end agreed. Now, what's the deal with Antoine Woods right now? Good question. They he he's a exclusive rights free agent. They could have tendered him by now and they haven't. So that's a little bit interesting to me because I've been wondering, like, what's going on with him and why

are they waiting on doing anything? Because when you see the lack of guys within the defensive line, that is one guy at least that you would assume or expect the Cowboys to bring back. Well, but I guess right now we'll go ahead, Dave, No, go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say, I wonder how much the speculation around don Terry Poe fits into that. If they're looking at other guys out there, maybe they feel like they

can upgrade that position. I know, I don't think there was much legs this, but you do have guys like Damien Damon Harrison, Snacks Harrison that are out there, So there may be other guys that they look at in free agency and they're looking at and saying, maybe we can upgrade the position. If we don't, then maybe we

go back to an Antoine Woods. Yeah. Well Antone Woods is to me, sorry, Dave, but Antoine's a guy that, like as big as he looked walking around and in uniform and all that we're in that ninety nine, he's gonna look real small when you put them next to Dontari Poe. And I think it's I think it's important, and who wouldn't, but I think it's important that to know that the Cowboys are definitely trying to change that look of what their defensive tackles look like. And you know,

I think now Crawford is definitely a defensive end. I don't know where Tristan Hill. I mean, he's under contract for three years, so you know he's gonna be here, But I don't know if he's the perfect fit for what they're looking for for that type of position now

very I had completely forgotten about him. Sorry. Sorry, It's very fitting timing because words you know, they've been linked to Dontarri Poe for four or five days and it sounds like that's being finalized right now per Twitter, which yeah, I think Nick's absolutely right there obviously, between Gerald McCoy Dontari Poe. I just think they're looking at a bigger

mold of defensive tackle than Antoine Woods. And maybe, you know, if if things don't work out in free agency the way they want them to, it would be very easy to bring him back. All they have to do is tender him. So I wouldn't rule it out completely, but I think they want to get larger at that position based on what they're doing so far. Just so people know the actual measurements. Antoine Wood six foot even three hundred pounds. Don Terry Post six ft three forty six pounds,

so he's almost fifty pounds heavier, three inches taller. He is a big, massive, guy, Nick, you've always said, give me that big sloppy guy. I could put the one technique. This may be your big sloppy guy. You put it the one technique that's hard to move, and it maybe a little harder to move than than even in Antoine Wood, who's a big guy. But this guy's even bigger, bigger. And also, I mean, you know, if you have issues in the red zone, he has thrown a touchdown pass.

He's the only player in the NFL history, the only defensive tackle to ever throw a touchdown pass. And if you haven't seen it, google it. It's pretty awesome. So you're saying, if they can't get the deal worked out with Dak and Dak decided to hold out, we should be okay. Yeah, but you know what, relax, let's forget forget that though. Hey, guys, forget the part about don Terry Poe because they got the Belldozer And I don't know if you remember that, but I mean, and I'm

sure Derek does. He played at Oklahoma what ten years ago, and bring that up. Well, I mean, you know the Belldoz or you probably don't even know his name, but you know what the Belldozer you're right, Jim Tibo. He was Tibo before tibodn't now and Tebow was first. Well, I don't know, yeah, I don't know the timing on that. Another time on that. All right, let's let's let's move a little bit, and I want to talk about some

of the other free agency that are out there. I'm gonna throw some names of you guys, and i want you to tell me if any of these names strike you as as players that you would like the Cowboys. Not again, we're not saying the Cowboys are talking to them, but players that you would like the Cowboys maybe to consider based upon where they are right now in free agency. Michael Bennett, Tavon Austin. Those are two names of guys that were here last year. There are still free agents.

Everson Griffin, the defensive end from Minnesota. We talk by Damon Harrison. I mentioned him just a few minutes ago. Defensive tackle Ted Ginn Juniors out there. If you need a guy that can return punts and kicks and give you a little bit of something speed receiver, Jadeveon Clowney. Defensive end, you got Delaney Walker, which is an interesting name at tight end now obviously Blake Bell being signed today, Maybe he's not a guy that even factors in. But

a name I throw on the list. And then at quarterback, an interesting name, Matt Moore, guy used to be here, he's a free agent. If you're looking for a backup quarterback, maybe a guy has a little more experience, maybe he fits. Any of those names strike you as guys you would like the Cowboys to show some interesting Yeah, bring on Clowney clowning. I mean, let's say yeah, I mean yeah, I mean if realism not my salary capture, no, no, no, no no no. Realism is a part of this, so

I want you to think of it realistically. But but just names you say, hey, you know that guy may actually fit, I will say it is. So the league year opened officially a week ago today, and stuff's been going on for two days before that. So it's been a week and a half really since teams started negotiating, and Jedevian Clowney remains unsigned, which clearly means that what's his volume run? Now, Well, that's that's the great question.

It's it's very obvious Clowney wanted DeMarcus Lawrence money like he wanted twenty plus million dollars a year. He wanted to be the next bank breaking pass rusher. Teams don't want to pay him that because he's got a long injury history and he only had three sacks last year. So I think it's highly unlikely that the Cowboys would get involved in that sweepstakes. But the longer he goes unsigned, I assume the lower his price would be. So I

really don't expect him to wind up here. But it does make me curious that he's been a free agent for a week and a half. You know what worries me about a guy like Jadeveon Clowney is it's interesting to me when you see a pass rusher that has now had two different teams say we're okay. You know, when Houston, oh we'll get we'll just get rid of him. We're good, we're fine, And now when you have Seattle after having him there for a year, say now we're good.

It just it just makes me a little bit cautious. Now, I'm not the one that buys into the whole idea of there's a reason they're they're a free agent, Like I think there are lots of reason a player can be a free agent. But I do think that at specific positions that are sometimes hard to feel, like finding a good pass rusher, the fact that two teams have said we're fine does make me a little bit worried either.

You guys think that when you when you think about a player like Jadevian Clowney, Well, I mean, I think you have a good point, but there are exceptions to the rule. And you know, I think Robert Quinn's gonna be going on his fourth team in five years, and I think the Bears, obviously we're excited about that, so um, you know, and Randall Cobb, now this is three this will be three straight years for him, So I that's

just the nature of it. I mean, but you're right for that money, I can I can see your point for sure on Clowney, but I you know, I look at it like the book in when he was there with with J. J. Watt, and I think he could be there with the DeMarcus Lawrence. I mean, that would be awesome. But I'm telling you that their salary cap is didn't the cap didn't go up as much as they wanted it to. So they've got more cat Cowboys

have more cat problems than you might think. And you know, I don't think a contract like that makes sense for them. They're going to be they would be in cap hell if if they did a deal like that, I think, yeah, I mean, I just think at the end of the day, Clowney and Griffin are going to cost more than they're willing to pay. I think they could probably make it work if they really wanted to. I don't necessarily advise that they do. That is the thing that scares me

about Clowney is just price versu availability. Like he hasn't had a you know, he's played thirteen or more games every year but one in his career, but like by the end of last season with Seattle, he had about six different problems limiting him. And I feel like that's been a theme for his career, not necessarily missing games, but just being hindered. And for the price, I just

I don't know that it's one hundred percent worth it. Um. I would love and the Cowboys on tend to give big money to free agents that are not at home, you know, but not their own free agents. That's the point we've been making for weeks though, is that they need to spend a little bit more money if they expect to improve the team, Like I think, do you know Don Arrepoe great addition, Gerald McCoy a great addition. Glad they brought Anthony brownback. I'm intrigued by haha, Clinton Dix.

But like, the defense does not look better on paper than it was last year. It just doesn't. What do you guys know about Evston Griffin because that that's the one that that's a little bit perplexing to me because I think he's a really good defensive end. I'm kind of surprised he's still out on the free agent market. Is there something I'm missing about what he is? Is

there an injury history? Is there's something about him that maybe could point to a reason why he still hasn't been signed by someone At this point, I can't tell you. I mean, I know that Mike McCarthy should should know a little bit about him, you know, playing against the Vikings for so long, so I you know, I don't know. I mean, I would seem like a pretty good good fit just to you know, another one of those bridge players.

But you know, you got to remember that what the what they view these players for, they're not trying to to break the bank, and I think, you know, guy like Griffin, maybe Clowney, you know, they look at it like this is one more big opportunity to make, you know, a lot of money, and so you know, I think people just have different agendas right now for what these roles would be. Yeah, I think. I mean when a guy like kind of like Clowney, I think it's price

verse market. He's thirty two years old, honestly, like he's barely missed any playing time, Like he's very reliable, but thirty two year old coming off an eight sacks season, he probably has a different idea of what he's worth than the teams that are pursuing him. At the end of the day, I still think he's going to be

worth more than what the Cowboys want to pay. But every day that a guy like that goes unsigned, I feel like it's better for teams that don't want to spend a bit more money because eventually your christ has to go down. Right. That brings up another name, Michael Bennett. How do you guys feel about that? As long as he sits out on the market, Let's assume it gets to a point where he's willing to take a one year deal again, I think the Cowboys should go after

a guy like like Bennett. Isn't he retiring? I mean, he hasn't said that, but honestly, at the end of last year that it was headed to like he was headed to retirement. I don't know what I thought. I think he said he was not. I thought I'd read somewhere that he was planning to play this year. But maybe I'm thinking about someone else. I saw a tight end retire and go to money Night Football. I'll come back and play. And now he's going to the you know, Wraiters.

So I mean, what, you know, what if Michael Bennett, you know Michael Bennett. I think the Cowboys are going to have some interesting players on the defensive And I'm gonna say I'm gonna just gonna say that they're gonna have some interesting players and stories at the defensive end position. I don't think it'll be Michael Bennett. So Randy Gregory obviously, well, yeah, Ran, if Michael Bennet wanted to sign back for a one year deal, I'd love to have him. Yeah, I mean,

I there was speculation he was retiring. I don't know what the new coaching staff thinks about its skill set. But so he did enough for you to want to bring him back. Absolutely, Yeah, he can play. He can still play, I think, so I'll take the off sides, flags and everything. Bring it on, yep. And he has that attitude. He has the attitude that you know, we keep talking about the defense sometimes needing that little fire.

He has that kind of firing. He he doesn't. He's just focused on what he needs to do and goals for it. So we're gonna take our We're gonna take our first break, and when we come back, I want to take a little time to dive into the most recent signing. I guess the most recent signing before today, which was Haha, Clinton Dix. Get your opinions and what you think he brings this team and how he rates relative to the guy that you'd be replacing in Jeff People.

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Come into an AT and T store to find out how to get one of our popular smartphones for zero dollars down based on GWS one score. September twenty nineteen. Back to the Break, Welcome back to the Break. We are live, we're in different locations. We're keeping our distance, but we're talking Cowboys football here with you guys. Here on the Break. We're talking about free agency, and I guess I want to start this next segment talking a little bit about ha Ha Clinton Dix. He is the

safety the Cowboys signed. I think it was maybe late last week, but Thursday night good and so I want to get your opinions on what you think of the signing just overall him as a player, what do you think he brings to the Cowboys. Let's start with you, Nick. You know, I think that he's just a veteran guy

that has pretty good range. It sounds like, again he goes into your category of some players that have been in different teams and good enough to sign, not good enough to keep, and so you know that's those guys are always interesting, but you know, usually when you surround them around guys with really good cornerbacks, you feel better

about it. That's why, you know, I think it's a little bit I'm a little uneasy about all that because I just I don't know if he's the exact answer there, just because you know, just because he's got a catchy name and he's a first round pick and he's got history with McCarthy, that doesn't always mean that it's going to work out. So I'm a little bit hesitant about saying that this is going to be a good move. Dave,

I like it, Yeah, I mean I agree. You know, he's a former first round pick, he's been to a Pro Bowl. I don't think he's going to conjure up image is of like Earl Thomas, you know, like, this isn't that type of signing. He's got flaws in his game. He's not the best tackler, he's not amazing and run support. He can get reckless in coverage, like he'll give up

some plays. At the same time, the thing that makes you a first round pick most of the time at safety is when you have ball skills and the ability to make plays on the ball. So my hope is if he can contribute a handful of takeaways. That's a handful more than the Cowboys safeties have provided in recent seasons. I think he had two picks for the Bears last year, which you know, preferably be a little bit more, but that's still better than what you've gotten from the safety

position in recent years. So, like I said, yeah, I don't think this is a home run signing, but if he can use those ball skills to add to your takeaway tally, hopefully it'll work out pretty well. You know. One of the things that I've been paying attention to this for this upcoming year is a tackling, which is obviously one of the things that the Cowboys struggle with.

Last year as a defense And you know, when I when I started looking in day will know and I start looking at all these players prospect from the draft, most of them all have like tackling issues, Like I don't know what the deal is with the whole tackling. So for me, at least, this is a guy that has experienced on the field. And I keep saying it, I want someone with experience. I don't want a rookie or depend on a rookie to start off the season.

I want someone that's capable of going in there and and he has you know, he has the um what do you call it, like the fitness level. He's not what's the word I'm looking for. Athleticism is what I'm looking for. It's a big word, right, There's very about that. Yeah, So he has a good aspect that he brings, but the whole tackling thing that concerns me not a whole lot, but it's still something that I'm definitely keeping in my

eyes on. Yeah, for those of you out there listening and watching, if you haven't had a chance to check out Dallas scoutboys dot com, yesterday we put up a scoutter report from our own Bucky Brooks, who is now starting to do some a little work with our team. He'll be doing some scouter reports for a lot of

players over this next field the next few months. But just go check out that scoutter report and one of the things that just kind of jumped off the page when I read it was he called him the perfect bridge player. And that's exactly how I thought of this signing is this is a guy that is going to give you time. He's buying you time for you to develop someone else. So likelihood that he's going to be sitting in that spot a couple of years from now

is probably pretty small. Question is who's going to be in that spot? Who are they gonna draft this year? Who might they I don't think it's probably going to be a free agent signing at this point, but I think you have to look at who are they got a draft they can bring in and start getting them reps this year so that next year or the year after that person is your league gout? You know the thing about and we've said this several times. We've heard the term bridge player a lot, But the question I

have is are the Cowboys going to cross it? You can build a bridge all you want to, but do they want to get to the other side because they can't develop They're not going to develop a fifth round safety or sixth round safety. They try with Xavier Woods, and you know that's cute and all, but I mean, if at some point you're gonna have to to make that, you know, that move and actually draft a really high caliber safety and so hopefully you know we can that

could be this year. But I mean, then again, we just we just mentioned defensive end, cornerback, and now center are our positions that you're going into the draft, slot receiver. So I don't know if safety is gonna gonna be the case this year. It may be best available. I've been I've been hurt before. Like ideally, I would love to say this is perfect. You got Haha, you got Woods, draft the safety in the top, you know, one hundred picks first three rounds and that's your guy for the

future and Haha is a perfect bridge. But I gotta see it to believe that they're going to do it. And yeah, Nick just laid it out perfectly. Like right now, it's still time and free agency. But like you all right, Randy Gregory, I'm rooting for you, man, but you probably need to draft a defensive end, cornerback, don't feel great about it, don't have a slot receiver, and then there's the safety issues. So even with all you know, I think Poe would be their fifth or sixth signing from

outside and they still have work to do. All right, Nick, you mentioned the center position. I want to dive into now the conversation around Travis Frederick who announced I think it was yesterday that he is retiring from the NFL. Interesting statement that he made talking about his struggles coming back and he just didn't feel like he could be the player that he was accustomed to being. How surprised were you guys, and how surprised do you think the

Cowboys were at this retirement. I'm not gonna say I was. I'm shocked. I mean a little bit surprised, but I mean somebody in our office actually said like two or three years ago that he wasn't gonna play very long. And this was before all of that happened. So that's been on the report of syndrome. Oh yeah, like three years ago. Was like, well what if he doesn't? You know,

I can't remember exactly how it went. Down, but it was put on the radar that he's not long for this, and I you know, yeah, and I've mentioned this a little bit and then coming back, he didn't, you know, he didn't have a great year Pro Bowl. That's that's nice, But I mean I don't think a lot of people know a lot of centers in the league, and so

it's like, yeah, Frederick, Pro Bowl. Sure, but he didn't have a Pro Bowl year and he admitted it and he knows it, and I think he just SE's just saying his future and his family are more important than football right now. On top of that. And yeah, I mean that's one of those things you know, you have that benefit working in the building that I've heard it mentioned or rumored at least a handful of times over the last two or three years that retirement could be

something to watch out for Travis Frederick. It's not the type of thing that you want to throw out there recklessly because it's a guy's career. But I wasn't that caught off guard. I if anything, I was. I thought, the guy makes thirteen million dollars a year, Like that's hard money to walk away from. But I think Travis Frederick played at such a high level for such a long time that he wasn't going to be satisfied playing at a lesser level. So it made it made sense,

you know. I guess the timing kind of caught me off guard, but like when you think about it in the big picture, it didn't. It's not the most shocking thing that's ever happened, that's for sure. Yeah, it definitely ain't calling me by a surprise. Obviously, it's not what you like Dave said, it's not a big picture, it's not surprising, but I wasn't expecting it to happen right now.

You know, you see football players and he even mentioned this, I'd believing his better that football players are always thinking of they're afraid of what's next when you're out of football. So in my mind, every player is trying to stay in the NFL as long as possible. And to me, the way the progress that he was able to make from when he got the syndrome to where he was at last year was tremendous. So in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, yeah,

he's healthy, he's good to go. He looks fine for another year, but clearly he knows his body way better than anybody else, and he knows what's more important to him at this stage in his life. But definitely call me by surprise. Luckily, the Cowboys did sign Joe Looney, so at least that's good. He's a guy that's proven he's done it before, and that's at least someone that can hold you in for the moment. You know. The good thing though about it what you just said about,

you know, life after football. I think when the players are signing each other's yearbooks like they do at the end of school and say most likely to succeed after football, I bet Travis Frederick is the number one guy on that list of guys that no one's worried about what he's going to be able to do. I think he was a double major maybe in Collins, so one of the smartest players they've ever had, and I think that that showed on the field and not just a BookSmart guy.

He helped them on the field, and that's what I think they're gonna miss more than anything as we talk about possible or replacements here. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, I think I remember someone telling me he's already built an app that was I think his major was something like computer science or something like that. But yeah, that he's already built an app at Wow, while he's been playing, he's built an app and plans maybe to build him

a lot more. So. Yeah, I don't three years deared about say again, three years from now, it's gonna be like, hey, hello Sharks, my name is Travis, and I'm here today seeking whatever. Yeah. Right, and so so talking through Nick, you started talking about options of what they do from here.

At least showed me when when you see this in retrospect it and you look back on the fact that they signed Looney pretty early on in free agency, it suggests to me maybe true, maybe not, but it suggests to me that maybe the Cowboys saw that this was a possibility and so they covered themselves in that way. But talk me through the options of what the Cowboys can do at center based on what they already have in house. I mean, I can do it, but I'd

rather pass it on to Dave. Dave wrote a really great article which was the theme of the last two weeks. He's been killing it. But Dave wrote a great article about a lot of options there. So I'll let Dave. I mean Looney now and and and McGovern, but maybe Connor Williams. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna be interested. It's you know, for all the surprise and panic, I guess. I mean, you think about it, and it's obviously a

big hole. I mean, yes, the Cowboys they made it to the playoffs without Travis in twenty eighteen, but it was a clear drop off and play Joe Looney did his best, but even he has said multiple times that he's not Rabis Frederick having said that they're pretty well prepared for this, they resigned Joe. He was a sixteen

game starter just two seasons ago, played well. And then hey, kudos to the Cowboys for drafting the best player available, because as weird as it seemed when they drafted Connor McGovern last year, now they have a top one hundred draft pick who can play guard and center. I believe started fourteen games at center at Penn State, so he's done it against high quality competition. And then you've got Adam Redman, who they picked up the option on his

deal before free agency even started. He was a college center. And then Connor Williams. That's gonna be interesting because you know, you could. Theoretically, Connor McGovern could be a better left guard than Connor Williams, and the Cowboys have said before that they think Connor Williams has the flexibility to play center. We'll see if they actually do that, but it's not something I would rule out. But I mean, that's four veteran NFL players on your roster that can handle it.

I didn't put this in my article, but technically Zach Martin could do it in a pinch too. He's done it in practice before. I don't think I would move the best right guard of football, but if push came to show, I guess they could point being is like, I really, I don't think they need to worry about it in the draft. They've got plenty of options among the guys that are already here, even with the loss of guys like Xavius Sulphilo and I know how at

tackle your swing tackle Cam Fleming. With losing those guys, do you think that does that at all make you think even though you got a lot of names here, do you think they still need to add a few more bodies to this list on the offensive line? Oh, I definite. I mean tackles Another story especially if Connor if Travis Frederick's retirement kind of kills the thought of Connor Williams moving to tackle, which we don't even know if they were going to do that, but it's something

we've talked about. If you're not going to do that, If if Connor Williams is either going to play a guard or center, all the more reason why I'm looking at tackles in the draft, probably and not you know, not with pick seventeen, but wherever you can find the best value to a upgrade swing tackle and b give

yourself some insurance for Tyran Smith. I think that's a sneaky thig priority, you know, one of the you know, obviously the reason we're doing all this is, you know, we just have so much uncertainty right now with when people are gonna be able to practice, when the doors

are going to be open, and all that stuff. So, you know, I think relying on young guys it's always a tricky thing, but in a season like this, we don't know how much time they're gonna be on the field, and so, you know, I think having a veteran guy. That's not why they signed Joe Looney, but I think signing Joe Looney certainly helped, because you know, if it gets down to it, maybe it's just maybe there's not a lot of OTAs. Maybe there's no OTAs. Maybe they

go right to the training camp. I would rather have a guy like Joe Looney or some kind of veteran that that that can step in. So I think teams might be shifting a little bit there, covering themselves else knowing, yeah, we drafted some great players, but they didn't get a lot of OTA works, they didn't get any mini camps. We're throwing them in there for training camp. It might it might take a little bit longer to get these

guys ready to go. And even with I was gonna just mentioned real quick, even with Connor McGovern, he didn't have a rookie year last year. You know, he wasn't able to do what rookies do in their first year. And on top of that, to me, last time I saw him, he was still like he looks rather small, you know, to where you would want those kind of guys to be out And Karner Williams has been a guy that we've talked about, you know, the lack of strength and power and to me, like at least with

Connor McGovern. I really wonder what's gonna be the plan with him, especially if, like Nick mentioned, if we don't have a great off season too where they're able to go in their workout practice and all that. I wonder how long it's going to take him to kind of build up that strength that he would need for any type of position within the old line. That's it. I'm

convinced signed Ron Larry. He's another guy. Yeah, he is another guy that's out there, and I guess at some point, at some point you probably could get We could get him for a pretty decent price. Yeah, he has a house here. As as he's pointed out, there's probably answer question, Oh go ahead, what do you say? Day? It seems like every free agent was a Cowboys. Every free agent that Cowboys fans want them to sign that they aren't signing seems to have a house in Dallas, So proximity

is not holding them popular places. Yeah. Yeah. The interesting question from Twitter from alfredos Alnas. He says, with the new roster rule, how many offensive lineman do you expect on the final roster? I guess knowing that now Cowboys or all teams in NFL will be able to have an extra I think it's an extra two players active on game day. One of them has to be an offensive lineman. How much do you think that factors into

some of these kinds of things. And we're talking about these offensive linemen and maybe bringing in another body, is that does that at all affect these decisions? I mean, the way you said it was a little tricky. You have to have eight offensive lineman active, and so that I mean some teams could have nine or ten. I don't know if it's gonna change to have that mean. I mean, I guess if you have to have eight

active every game, they usually have seven, sometimes eight. But I still think that you're gonna be sitting around ten on your roster. I don't because they're not. I think more than anything, you those extra two spots are gonna be, in my opinion, more linebackers and maybe more receivers, but just more guys or defensive backs, but more guys to

play special teams. It's kind of curious to me. It's actually kind of curious to me that the league made this rule and specified offensive linemen because of all the positions in football, offensive line and probably quarterback are probably

the last of the positions that don't rotate. You look at all the other positions in the NFL, for the most part, most teams rotate those guys, and you would think if they were gonna have extra reinforcements per game day in order to give more more bodies that you can throw at plays. Again, especially if you're going to increase to an additional game to seventeen regular season games, it would seem to me that you would actually want to specify those players maybe at other positions rather than

offensive line. Seems a little curious to me. Well, you know, at least for the Cowboys. I mean, you've seen sich Martin getting hurt during a game. We know Connor Williams has gotten hurt and us and we don't have Xaviers to a fielt anymore. Tyren Smith is another guy that

has struggled with injuries. I'm not saying they're not gonna be fully healthy this year or anything, but those are already three guys within the offensive line that are starters that to me, I'm always concerned now whether or not they could get injured in the middle of the game. So I don't know, maybe that helps at least with the Cowboys. But to me, I don't see it as

something bad. I think I think that's exactly why they they're doing it, is because those injuries inside the game, and they don't want players to be like make choices and say, well, as you're knee okay, because I mean, you're the only guard we've got, you know, and they have to go out there. I mean, you know, I could see the same thing being said about quarterbacks. Honestly, I wouldn't surprise me if they did that where you know, you got to have three quarterbacks active, but or at

least in uniform. You know they have done that in the past. But yeah, all right, looks take our final break. When we come back, Amber's got a game for us. We're gonna lighten this thing up, have some fun here in our final segment of the break. We'll be right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Sam's eighteen sixty five Stetson hats are American maid with pride right here in Texas, and Stetson is proud to be on the

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back to the final segment of the Break. We are live. We are all in different locations, but we're doing Cowboys breaks. We normally do here on every Wednesday during the offseason eleven am Central Time, So make sure you tell a friend to tune in. Hopefully we can all add some a little bit of levity to a otherwise very very serious situation. You know, Derek, I said this last week. I think we have the most appropriately titled show in all of TV, and all of radio and anything. I mean,

the break, It's exactly what it is. This is exactly what people I think need. Hopefully it's what they need. And so you know, at least we can do that. I think we all need that. I can go another hour just I'm ready to I'm ready to talk more football. I think I've said it. I said it to some people I've talked to over the phone, and I've mentioned it to you guys by email when I talked to

our tire group. I never realized how much I actually miss hanging out with you guys at work until it gets taken away and it really feels like a part of my life is kind of empty. So it's good to get on here for an hour with you guys and talk football. I'm enjoying, all right, Amber, you have a game for us, which you guys, all right, you guys ready, So this is this is the game. What we're gonna do. We have I have a set of ten questions, some of the things we've already talked about,

but that's okay, we'll still hit on them. The first question, so there are two questions. One question is going to be a personal question. You're gonna write down your answer on a piece of paper and then just show it on screen as soon as I'm done asking the second question. So when I'm done asking the second question, you show your answer on screen, and then we'll discuss that second question out loud. It'll make sense in a little bit.

So let's just get started. So like a ninety eight percent chance I'm gonna screw this up, but it's fine, ready to go. It'll be fine. We won't discuss your your personal answer personal question out loud. We'll just have fans look at it on screen and that's it. Okay, just try it. Yeah, yeah, we'll have some fun here. We'll all right. First question, what you're gonna write down on a piece of paper which NFL team has gained the most in this free agency? So to you which

NFL team has gained the most during this free agency? Now, the question that we're about to this cause is what would be the best acquisition that the Cowboys have made during this free agency? So you can lift up your answer the first question. Wait, so we lift up we lift up our answer for the first question. Yeah, just show it on screen, and as you show it, just live it there a few seconds, just so fans can look at it and see your answer. But then we're

gonna got it. Now we're gonna talk about the best acquisition for the Cowboys during this free agency. Who would you say, is your your guy that you thought that the Cowboys definitely needed for this year? All right? You know, I think I think McCoy, Gerald McCoy, if he you know, can be the player that he's been. But I mean he continues to get sacks from that position, So I you know, losing Malie Collins and getting Gerald McCoy, I think that's one position where I think they have made

an upgrade. I know Collins is younger, but I still think he's never going to be the player that Gerald McCoy was or he is. So I would say McCoy is is the best guy they've done, our best edition so far. I absolutely agree with that. I don't think it's even close right now. I think once they signed, or if they get the deal done finalized with Don Terry poev and I think he got a little more of a conversation, but I think as of now it has to be Gerald McCoy agreed unanimous. I know that's boring,

but it's all good. Will. So we's going through all these questions? Can I quit? All right? Hey there you got quick though, real quick though, Can I just back up? I'm interested to know why. I know why Nick and I chose Arizona because obviously they got the best. Did you know I listened to the rules here? Did you not listen to the rules of the game? Okay, but go ahead, every sort? Why why? Why is that? No? No, I get that. I want to know what Dave said

the Ravens. What what about the Ravens stands out to you most? Honestly, I just think it's incredible that they got Klais Campbell for a fifth round pick, Like that's just such an insane value. And you add a guy who's that talented to what was already a pretty good defense, you know. I mean they were the best team in the AFC last year. Um, I don't even know the rest of what they did. Uh, it might not be great, but adding a guy like that to a team that's

already that talented is pretty impressive. Yeah, exciting? All right, Sorry to delil the game. No, it's all good. Personal question, your favorite player of all time? Meanwhile, what would you say any team n okay, any tea. I mean, you can't just any team Calvoy is anything you want? Favorite player of all time? And then the question that we're going to discuss, what would you say is the biggest loss for the Cowboys during this free agency? Y'all are

gonna hate my answer. You're gonna think I'm stupid. All right, So biggest loss loss, it's easily. How is your biggest one, Robbie Quinn, I agree, Robert Quinn. They don't have any pass rushers. I agree. I'm sorry I keep slandering Grandy Gregory, but they don't have any pass rushers. And it's who's your guy? I can't see that. Who is it? Dave? You're not supposed to see it right now? I'm sorry. Sorry. You can go back and listen to the watch the

show later. You are looking at the right cameras. But it's fine, yeah, right, okay, you know, regards to the with regards to the guy that they lost. I actually think the interesting thing here is that Randall Cobb. I think you have more ability to be able to replace Randall Cobb than you do, um Robert Quinn. I think there are more options out there, especially if you look at the draft. We've talked about this over and over.

There are tons of guys in the draft wide receivers that are really good players that you can get even later in the draft. And you know, my guy Duverne is still gonna be out there and available. I would assume third maybe fourth round. So I think they're good quality options, good quality options to replace Cobb. I don't know that you have those kinds of options to replace Robert Quinn. That's gonna be a hard replacement. Yeah, I think though, I mean, those guys it's still a committee though.

I still think you know that they've done a decent job. And Tom Sewela, I think can can figure that out. Byron Jones to me, like, what are they doing at corner? That's to me, that's the problem is because the reason why Iron Jones had all these great stats, it's because everyone threw over to Cheeto all the time. So now he's your main guy, Like, that's that worries me a little bit. I think I think the biggest loss is Byron Jones. Yeah, all right, all right, personal question, favorite

TV show at the moment? Now, what would you say the moment too? Is the top draft priority for the Cowboys as of right now, looking at what they currently have on their list and the current guys that they've signed so far, what would be the top draft priority. Reference made one reference. Of course, it's my favorite. Nick just said it. I think it has, at least for me. It's it's cornerback. I just don't know if the player is gonna be there that can give you the value

you need where you're picking. But I think cornerback is probably your biggest, your piggot, your biggest draft need at this point, because you don't have even if you talk about by committee right now, Anthony Brown's gonna be starting for you. I would assume I don't know if I'm all that excited about that, and I make my pitch, Sure pick, you better not say a wide receiver. Oh I'm gonna say wide receiver. And I'll tell you why.

At seventeen. You can draft a cornerback. You could draft CJ. Henderson. He'll probably be like part of a committee. Like the odds that a guy that is drafting seventeenth overall is just handling his side of the field from day one, totally possible, not a slam dunk. The same thing goes for edge rusher. I'm a big fan of Calevan Jason. If he's there, you can do that. He's got sky high athleticism and potential, still probably gonna need a year

of seasoning. If you draft cde Lam, he's starting right away, scoring touchdowns and moving inside and outside and making the Dallas offense that much better. The chance that tribute in meaningful way right away is just a lot better than a defender. And obviously drafts are about more than just twenty twenty. But that's your best bet to improve this team right away in my opinion. You know, I just think I just think that's a different answer to the question.

I mean about the biggest need, because you're overlooking the need, which is fine. I mean that that's what they do. You're you're you're going with best available player, which is exactly what Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones is gonna tell us. So if that's what they do, it sounds like all those receivers are going to be there. But that's not that.

The question was like the biggest need, and I think the biggest need is it still corner another But that doesn't mean that you reached for it if it's not there. So Dave defense wins games. We hear this over and over and championship? Who just won the Super Bowl? All right? Moving up to the next questions. Moving up to the next question. Do you have toilet paper? Write it down on your sheet of paper? Oh, I don't know if you want to divulge if you don't like all right? What? Um?

We kind of talked about this already, got it right there. I was gonna use it as a prop. Actually it's for my phone here, but toilet paper for like a weekend. Oh, it's been a running joke between me and Dave. Anything was going on, I was, I was at the store looking, but I got it. I found it. Um, I'm sorry. What was the question? What position should be addressed before the draft? We kind of mentioned this a little bit, but what would you say is a position that definitely

needs to be addressed before the draft? Of everything I'm seeing out there, I think they could address defensive end. It's just a question of whether they want to. I mean, we talked about some of the names that are out there, was some Griffin and jadeveon Clowney and you know, and even if they want to go the route of bringing back on Michael Bennett if he's not going to retire. I think there are options out there at defensive end.

I don't know if those numbers work for them or not, but I do think there are some options there, and there are options that I think a step in day one and be starters and give you good production. I probably would say corner. I mean, I think you could if there's another one corner out there. I don't know Zaer RhoD still out there. Oh yeah, but I don't want him. I believe he is, Yeah, I don't. I don't know if I'm sold on that. He did not

play well last year at all at all? The thing for me, right, all right, I agree with everything y'all just said. But I mean, they've signed two cornerbacks, not actually three if you count C. J. Goodwin. Not trying to convince anybody that they're the legion of boom, but they have bodies, which that's what they do, right like they fill the position so that they can draft purely. They haven't really done that at wide receiver, which I

can talk all I want about ceedee Lamb. I don't really expect that to happen, but right now they don't have like a proven veteran slot like I know, Cedric Wilson is still kicking around, Devin Smith is kicking around. Like. There's guys on the roster, but you would expect them, yeah, John, I mean there's guys, but not guys that have done it, which is what you would expect. The thing is is there's just there are not very many like capable receivers left on the market. It is pretty barren. So I've

got an eye on that. I'm curious to see what they do. All right. Personal question, what do you miss the most as of right now? Since we're in lockdown, and the question would be, we know the linebacker group, what that's like as of now? You know, they're pretty much similar to last year, and last year they did it necessarily perform how we expected them too. What are your expectations now for this twenty twenty with the linebacker group?

I think I think the linebackers, I mean that's the one position where there's not a lot of change at all. I mean, like they I'm kind of surprised they brought everybody back um topped about it. I mean, does anybody else think that it's kind of weird that the one position that was really bad last year. I mean the one area was special teams, and they everybody's pretty much back. The core players of the linebackers were back. See J

Goodwin was back. I mean, I guess not the punt returners, but you know, I mean deep snapper he wasn't the problem. He's back, and kickers back, and the punter looks like he's just seems kind of weird. But like that's not answering your question. But I just think all the linebackers that they brought back, I mean, is everyone. If everyone's healthy, then there's not gonna be a lot of change there.

I think it's a sneaky need though. I think it's an underrated need that the Cowboys need to address in the draft. Is getting a linebacker in the third or fourth round. Can I ask you a question, Yeah, how many? How many of those guys? Because I've heard this floated on Twitter, I don't know how I feel about it.

If the Cowboys signed don Terry Poem and they, in fact they brought back all these linebackers, does it at all signal to you that there is a possibility that they'll be playing more three four than four three next year is now not to me, Yeah, I think it signals that they're tired of their linebackers getting getting hit by guards and centers, and they're trying to play it a different way. I think signing Poe and McCoy to me, suggests that they're they're gonna they're gonna go with the

four man front. And you know, McCarthy has said as much. I mean, he's kind of said that it will be a four man front. So, um, I guess those two guys could rotate as the one in a three four. But I think they're gonna play together. I think it's gonna be a four three. I just think you're gonna have a bigger, bigger line. Well, I do think if they if they were to go to three four, I think McCoy would be a defensive end. He seems to

have that typical three four defensive end build. But again, I'm not saying that that's necessarily the way it goes. I'm just wondering aloud. You know, I've heard people kind of speculating there, and I do wonder if if maybe there's a shade of that involved. We obviously wouldn't know that until we get to training camp, we start seeing what they're doing. I think you can go get an idea if you turn on the tape of Carolina, Like they they were multiple. They did a lot of both

Poe and McCoy. Poe played the vast majority of his snaps as a one technique in a four three front, but they did place in three four where McCoy wasn't end and Poe played nose tackle, and they kicked their linebackers out wide. Like I think you'll see a little bit of that. I think you can get multiple. You can use Jalen Smith as a rush linebacker, but I think they'll be a four or three front the vast

majority of the time. I think Nick's right. I think you look at the tape and you're like, man, how can we get more out of Jayalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh. Well, if we get these offensive linemen off their ass by beefing up the front the defensive front, they'll probably be better. Which my expectations are that they are great because Layton Vanderesh was great when he was healthy as a rookie,

Jaalen Smith should be much better again. And if he's got that ability to move in space and make plays. Just looking at it on paper, they're still one of the most talented units on the team. Mike Nolan is a defensive specialist. He coached linebackers for the Saints for the last couple of years. Damario O'Davis was amazing for them while Nolan was there. So my expectation is that they're going to be really good. I mean, it's to live up to it, but that's what I expect. That's

really an interesting point, David. I actually that's one of the reasons why I hope the Cowboys can go out either in free agency and get a veteran pass rusher like Griffin or get if he's available to him. Jay saw it in the draft, because I think if they can get that final piece, that other defensive end that they're now adding the tank, and now they're adding to these huge bodies there in the middle that they'll have

where these linebackers can really run. I think it actually makes the secondary a ton better because you'll actually may be able to get some pass rush, you may be able to do some things. You can make teams one dimensional, whereas right now last year they were not stopping to run consistently enough to be able to force teams to have to throw the ball. And so I think if you can do those things, if you can really solidify that line up front, I think it makes your whole

defense a ton better. And that's where they get better. It may not be in actually adding more talent necessarily to the secondary right now, as much as it is beefing up that front. Well, we've kind of out of time already. I don't know if you want to keep, but like one last question or just call it quits. If you got another question, let's roll with it, all right? Personal question? What is your favorite road game? Um? And then so you said road game? Where are we talking

here in general? Where are you like traveling to the most when we get back on Yeah, got it already, already, have one done, all right, we'll show it to the camera then, and then for the question. Um, some of these things we've already talked about. But let's just go ahead and do you want a Dak question or an offensive line question? Let's go back. We haven't talked Dack today, all right? Well, well it's very simple. What's up with that's what is going on with this Dak situation? What

is up with Derek Prescott. We know that. Yeah, that's yeah, they're You're right. So is there a timeline and expectations when when we should be kind of hoping or expecting this whole deal to be done. The actually talked about this well, we talked about it last week and it's I think it's really interesting because the leverage in this whole situation is out the window, like kind of similar

to Tank last year. You know, Tank's deal got done in April instead of July because he had a surgery and they wanted to make sure he was as right as he could possibly be, and it spurred them to action earlier than they needed to. Dak's leverage is not showing up for the offseason program, so that starts April six, if Dak is serious about not being in the building until then, if Weaving have an offseason program. No, that's the point I'm getting to is it's out. It's gone there,

That leverage is gone. Yeah, because right now players can't come in the building anyway. We don't know when OTAs are going to start. We don't know what the deal

is with captain's workouts mini camp right now. Who knows, you know, hopefully, but who knows if training camp is even going to start at the regularly scheduled times, So it's hard to get a grass because you know, before all this happened, before we all had to go home, I would have said, you know, this will be done by mid April, because they're not going to mess around with their franchise quarterback not being in the building for the start of a new regime's offseason program. That would

be silly. But if nobody can go into the building anyway, who the hell knows. So your guest is as good as mine right now. So here's the question then that if there is no offseason program or modified offseason program, then training camp becomes even more important. Do you think that would be willing to do what Zeke did and sit out training camp because that would be a huge deal, which act and I gotta I gotta give him credit.

Jesse Holley made a great point last week that the lack of knowledge about when this is all going to start should give the Cowboys, it should spur them to even more action, because when that switch gets flipped and everybody can go back to work, you're gonna want your franchise quarterback to be part of that Um, I think I've said, but I would have I would have to see Dak actually hold out to believe that he would do it, But I can't rule it out. Yeah, I

don't see that happening with Dak. I gotta remember he might not love playing on the franchise tag, but at the same time, you know, if he does play this year on the franchise tag, he's got something to prove as well, because this is a contract year. So you know, and and Derek, you say it more than anybody, especially about you know, running backs, but I'm sure it's the

same with quarterbacks. Not being there for training camp is not going to help you be the player that you want to be in a contract year, in a major contract here, So he's got that's a risky thing. It's not just holding out and saying, oh, good luck with Cooper Russ, because it won't be Cooper Rush. It would be somebody else that they bring in. Jamis all right, Well, we appreciate you setting up the game Amber. That was really entertaining, really fun. We'll do that again next week,

but that's the end of our time. We appreciate all you guys took some time to day to jump on with us, talk a little bit of Cowboys football. We'll be back next week on Wednesday, probably still in the same format. I think we're gonna be doing this for a bit, but we'll see, we'll see. We all play it by ear. We hope you guys stay safe till then. For Nick even, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break live on Dallas

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