Cowboys Break: Expecting Trades?

episode number fifty two. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Nick, this has become like this thing has taken on a whole life of its own. I swear this weekend I probably ran into two or three people in the hotel alone that asked me what numbers show are we on? Uh So, I think fans are kind of digging this thing. I love how it took seventeen years for you to figure out a gimmick to get anyone but you to care about this, and now we're

there and people care, and Nick cared so much. You didn't do it yesterday, Well you gave us one at the end Alsherman Singleton, which is awesome. People on their toes, make them wait, make them way through the whole show. You got fifty two? Yeah, you know. Usually it's like there's a there's a right answer, and then there's my answer. Yeah. I think it's the same. I think Dexter Cole there, Dexter Cokeley. He was a good player, man. I think

Connor's the only fifty two I've ever covered. Oh my guy, actually I forgot. I'm sorry. Justin. I loved Justin Durant. He he's big into music. I think he DJ's and is just as a side hobby. The one player I know that actually took time to go down on his own and and go and just to ten south by Southwest, which is a big conference out in Austin. It's like tech and geek kind of stuff I used to like on especially like Wow. Way back in the ancient days,

they used to even do available. They did player availability on Mondays right after the game, which was like the biggest waste of time, especially if they lost. Oh, you're not gonna find anybody in there, and even if they're in there, they're not gonna want to talk. But me and Durant used to I would ask him for music recommendations on Mondays just be like, what are you listening

to right now? And it was always good. You know what I wish he would have done, But when Aaron Rodgers was rolling out on that third and sixteen in the in the playoff game, I wish he kind of would have, you know, just beat him to the punch instead of just kind of waited to see if he was going to run, because you got to bring up all stuff. Yeah, saying that's what I remembered here, fond memories bringing that out. You know what, Dexter quickly did a full circle his uh not his rookie year, but

his like third year. He made big plays in the games where people were watching like Thanksgiving, wasn't that Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins, we go picksport two picks, one for a touchdown, ends up going to the Pro Bowl. So when you do it on the big stage, guys like Mica Parsons having his best game on big stage like that, you know it could help Al Singleton or excuse me, Al Johnson is my Johnson Johnson center right center, Wisconsin. Yeah,

and just so his like relatives don't email me. I mean, Davi Dwards was a really good linebacker back in the oil. He really was sounds like you've gotten having emails in the past from that family, you know. Um, But going back to what I was saying about that with Pro Bowl and stuff, like this team could have ten Pro Bowlers, Yeah, like they had zero last year. That way quite the reversal. You know, it's funny. Actually literally I'm not even playing

the game, but to have ten, that's amazing. See, it's a day or tomorrow that I got a conference call with the NFL talking about Pro Bowl like they're starting it up, so voting should be starting here soon. I don't care if it sounds cocky or whatever. Like it's the Dallas Cowboys. They're the most visible team in the league. If they're good, they're gonna have Oh yeah, they're they're probably gonna have more than they deserve, if we're being honest.

Every time it's happened like that, every time they had a really good team. They have a ton of people at the pro bile. But but I count nine that are probably deserving right now, And that's that's kind of looking dak zeke Um Dalton Schultz. I can just look at the question comes who else yeah, who Zach Tiring. That's we'll talk about that. If you're an offensive lineman once you've been to like two, it's just a snowball. Yeah. And then um, I think Gregory yeah, Micah, yep, maybe Diggs.

Diggs is already I thought I had a good nine. Oh. Receivers are tough because there's so many receivers that are getting catches and all that. Those those rams receivers like just they're gonna sit there with almost one of them is getting there. I think I think one of them ends up there. Almost all just said both of his names. Yeah, sorry sorry, Yeah, Cooper Cooper, Yeah, I think Amari Cooper,

Amari Cooper deserves deserves it. Yeah, he's yeah, So that gives you nine, gives you Yeah, and then Amari's on. We'll see what a safety does something you do say Dak right, yeah, you know for his as good as he's been across his entire career, Like Amari Cooper has never been a touchdown guy. Like his career highs eight in twenty nineteen, He's not like he's never had more than that. He's he's pretty reliable for like five six. He's already on five five Yeah, he's gonna be there.

He's gonna be in the Pro Bowl. As long as that's nine, that's a that's a healthy number right there. I mean that that means you guys probably send somebody to cover Pro Bowl this year. So maybe I don't say that we're not gonna play in the game. You and Amber touching that twice? Now, um, you know, maybe the defense, another defensive guy I could get into the mix. I don't. I just want I just want to be able to I would laugh Layton, mate, No, not not

with Mike good. You say, Laton, he's playing pretty good. Then yesterday you say play very well? Yes, that wouldn't you thought, Josie, I thought he played well. Okay, I don't. I don't think he's been bad. I'm not. I don't think he's think he's been pro played like a pro bowler. And Randy may may not make it to his numbers. Aren't aren't looking at I'm looking at five sacks at the less than halfway point, and certainly if you look

at pressures and stuff like that right up there. And I would say it like this once again, if you're talking about fan voting, fans are gonna be like, man, he's bawling, you know, so I don't I think gets in. I need we need, we need to have a shot there. I need Tony to get into the end zone a couple more times. I would laugh my ass off if the backup running back made a Pro Bowl case, wouldn't it. I don't think it's gonna happen, but it would be funny,

all right. I did want to talk about some injuries. It's usually wait and talk about injuries on Wednesday, but there's so many right now, and I want to talk about um kind of where they are, and I want to talk about like what how the Cowboys are gonna manage these these different injuries. Let's start first with obviously the injury that lingered from last week, Dak and his calf. What did Mike McCarthy have to say yesterday about where

Dak is at this point? He said that Wednesday's gonna be a little different practice, so he may he may be limited some Wednesday. They're hoping by Thursday he'll be full go. And and then Jerry said this morning on the radio that he wouldn't can't really What did he say exactly? He expects him to play? He says he can't see a scenario. Maybe he said, like every expectation that he'll go on Thursday, and they're very optimistic. Now he's Here's where I need you guys to give me

your expert opinion on covering this team. Two weeks ago at the bye, there was also that kind of talk where all, I can't see a reason why he wouldn't be all good by the time we get back from the bye. Thank god we got the buy. We have that week to rest. He should be good. After that, even Dak was kind of like, yeah, we're good, we're good here. Do you think it's some of that or do you think it legitimately is that he's going to be back this week. I don't I don't really remember

it that way. Honestly, I don't remember it being like we're good. They were very dismissive, like before the bottle Da Dak was a lot of that, and I don't trust him at all. He's I mean, like the way he could he had to he had to hop into the locker room in New England on Zeke's shoulder, and then he kind of stumped his way out to the podium and was like I needed to give you all something to talk about him, just like you're just you're just being dak, You're just putting a confident face on

whatever's bothering you. Like those That's not the same to me as what the organization might be saying. Yeah, but I feel like this this is different. I mean this week, UM just just really by what he's able to do. I'd be like, just what he's they're putting him out there, and as far as like working out and jogging a little bit, I just feel like if he was that far away, they probably wouldn't even mess with it. Right now, I don't. I don't think he was that close to playing.

I think, you know, with Xavier Wood saying, you know, man, we thought he was going to play. Mike McCarthy won the week. I mean, I mean, we'd say all this stuff about managing the game and stuff, which I thought he did a pretty good job in managing that game in a couple of ways. But they managed the week. The whole Cowboys manage that and it worked, you know

pretty well. You know, It's interesting. I've always thought this too, and people, a lot of people outside the organization talk about how having an owner that's as visible and talks as much as Jerry does can be a detriment. I actually think in a lot of instances it creates so much confusion on what really is happening outside of the building, Like the media is like, well, Jerry saying this, and the coach is saying this, and the player is saying this.

I actually think it creates clouds of man who knows what's going on? And the only people that really know are the people that's on the football side of this building. I don't know if that was always true, though, Like I do feel like there was always this tone of like, and Jerry did it earlier this year. I think it was about I think it was about Terrence Steele starting maybe or something, but like he kind of he gave Yeah, he gave away. He gave it away on Tuesday, everybody

was all upset about it. But I just during the Garrett era it felt like Gary Jerry kind of gave it away a lot more often, whereas like Jerry came out on Friday and was like, we're feeling great about Dak, We're feeling super optimistic, and everybody was like okay, But like that didn't really change the narrative. You know what I mean, And it is You're right, Like, I talk to people who don't live in this and I'm not talking about like Cowboy fans or anything like. You know,

I've got writer friends and stuff like that. People, you know, I've got friends to cover the Vikings and other teams. And they're like, well, I saw where Jerry said this, and I'm like, yeah, but there's like eighteen other layers to this that I don't blame you for not noticing. But that ain't that's not the whole story. It can get really convoluted. What you're asking is are they trying this again? Are we going down this road again? Yeah?

All we're gonna try to do the Broncos to thinking that I will tell you tell you this, And I don't know if you guys heard Jerry this morning on the way he talked about this and they asked him like, is there something to being able to hide what you're

gonna do? And Jerry said absolutely. He was like, that's probably he said, it's probably one of the most important things you can do, just because as as we've all heard kind of being around this, every guy in that locker room is watching tape on whoever he's going against, his matchup, his guy he has to be aware of. And so if you can keep that hidden from him all week, then he's having to do one or two things. Either he's having to make a guess and he focuses

on one person that might be right, might not. Or he's having to split his time, which means he can't devote all his time to one guy and preparing to go against one guy. Yeah, that's I mean, that's gamesmanship one on one, right, which I mean I I kind of chuckle it. Xavier Woods like, really like, you're prepared all week for Dac And then Scooper Rush threw Scooper Rush guy threw me for a loop that Cooper Rush who had never played until Sunday. Yeah, um, as though

you had film to watch on him anyway. And also yeah, and and Xavier Woods like had the game of his life. By the way, I just was shaking my head the whole time. I'm just like, well, it's not happening for you. I really thought, well, if he's getting interceptions and making plays for his team, then it's not gonna be a year. You're night now, you know, he didn't he didn't have the best game though, too, Like he had you look at the stat line, that's good, but I mean he

was doing was really good Chase in there. Yeah, but I mean he had some plays in the secondary too, where he's that's kind of well, that's what I'm saying for his game. Yeah, that was a really good game. Yeah, he's not gonna be like he's not Smith. I mean he didn't have that great of a game. I mean I let him in tackles, but yeah, he gets a nice submission whole night. Yeah, I mean that's good. I

mean he's the UFC champion there. I didn't honestly, I didn't even see that until That's what I said later when when that mail back question came up. Then I went and started looking for it. I didn't see it to zeke moms put Zeke's mom put it out on Twitter. It's the ultimate irony is that fans know way more about what's going on than anybody that's in the building, include like definitely in US and even the coaches to

those nuanced things that they show on TV. Because absolutely Collinsworth is like, now look at the way Harrison Smith has his Adam's Apple and a chokehold here and he's like he's circling it on the tallestrator, like I'm not seeing that. You can't see that. I'm surprised CD just went straight for the tap out, like like, I mean, you can get off me, bro. I bet that's and I said, I mean, I know people are up in

arms about that. I bet, I bet he gets he gets an envelope from the league this CD will get a fine for tapping out earlier. You can't tap out in the first five seconds of a chokehold. To answer to go way back to your initial question, I really like, I know it's boring, but like, I don't think you can answer the DA question until like Thursday, probably, I think, I mean, I think, I do think they feel very optimistic. I do think he's got a good chance to play.

But player feedback and the way you respond to that stuff is part of that. Do you think they should consider holding him out if he's not one hundred percent? Obviously you're playing a team that's not great, You're playing a team that's in the AFC, so the loss, if you got a loss, wouldn't hurt you dramatically. And what you saw this last week may give you a little more confidence that you can actually win a game without having Dak Prescott in the lineup. And let's throw in

one other caveat we don't know about Thomas Smith. We're gonna talk about him next. Let's assume that he might have to miss the game. Now you're a little bit more compromised on the offensive line as well. All that being said, would you consider holding him out if he's one hundred percent. I'm not getting cute and holding him

out for all of the reasons that you just said. Okay, if he meets the threshot and I don't know what their threshold is, I don't know if it's a percentage or like can you do this, that and the other. If he meets that, he plays. It's the NFL. You want your starter in there. If he meets the threshold where Britt Brown and everybody down the line is like, yes, he's fine, then he should play. If he doesn't, then he shouldn't. I know that's boring, but I'm not weighing

it differently because the Broncos are in the AFC. You want your starter to play if everybody feels confident that he can do so. Safely he should play. Could be honest here. Sure, keep bothering me when you keep saying that about the Broncos loss, like like losing to an AFC team doesn't matter. No, I didn't say it doesn't matter. It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt you in the same way as if you lost to an NFCA team, and

certainly if you lost an NFC East team. That's the way it's designed, that's the way I mean, that's true, not necessarily, I mean, it's got to work out perfectly like that. I mean, it's got to work out in

the tiebreak. But if we're sitting but I mean if they're thirteen and four and they finished thirteen and four and Green Bay's fourteen and three, and they're like they got the number one seed and they got the two seed because you lost the Yeah, but says it's less It is less than if you lost to an NFC team, and that is less than if you lost an NFC East team. I get what you're saying. Yes, the overall

record matters, absolutely right. This happened as recently as twenty fourteen, Like they went twelve and four and and didn't get a bye because of who they lost to in the regular seas. And I guarantee you this year, you look at those top five teams, tiebreakers will matter. They absolutely will matter. I can't imagine. Yeah this is this won't matter if you don't tie with them. But but yeah, but none of these teams are gonna go None of these teams are gonna go without a loss the rest

of the season. There's gonna be some wins and losses. But all I'm saying is what I'm saying is it's less of a challenge. It's less of a challenge to lose that game than it is to lose even next week when you play Atlanta because they're in the NFC. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Got it still bothers me? Well, I'll bet you five dollars right now, two of the

division winners are going to have the same record. Like I don't know who it'll be, but like the like you know, the three and four seat will have the same record, or the two and three seat will have the same record. That seems very likely to me, or or the wild cards, which Cowboys seem to not be part of that race. But I don't know. You never know.

You know, it's even more interesting. I started looking at these teams, those top five teams, and I thought it was going to be an interesting staff that Dallas only has three more games. If it's ten games left, Guess how many of those teams have winning records ten games? Guessing three because I see, okay, three and I thought, wow, wow, Cowboys must have an advantage. Started looking at some of the other teams. Green Bay has two, Arizona has two.

Like this is a top heavy division right now, I mean a conference, I should say, And basically all those teams only have a couple of games against each other. All the rest of their games against teams that are not they have a feeling like the Arizona game at the end of the season. How's this feeling? It's gonna mean like nothing, I really do, Like like why, I don't know. Well, I mean, the NFL is looking at that game already thinks that you just put that up

at night. You know that's gonna be a night game. But but well, I mean it'll matter, but it'll be one of those things like Okay, this is just a preview. You know they're probably gonna play again. I mean, there could be some some seating, you know, issues there for three to two or one to two and all that. If if it goes down to like the number one, see, of course that will be the biggest game ever. But but I just feel like it's gonna be the thing.

All right, Yeah, this is the end of the year, Like you could win this one, but who's gonna win the one and next month? You know what I mean, because I get it. But I think that's the best part about this whole seventh team in each conference in the playoffs is that now with only one team getting a buy, those teams are really going to be jockeying for position at the end of the league. At the end of the season. I'm talking about those teams at

the top. I think either Dallas or Arizona or both will be playing in that game to help secure their their ability to get the top seat. That game's gonna matter a ton to one or both of those teams. Going back to the point about NFC games mattering a little bit more than ANFC games, I just I could see that being a situation where loser of this game's playing the badass team in fifth place and the winners getting the not so good team in seventh place or whatever.

You know, Yeah, yeah it matters not Minnesota. Maybe could get talking about in that six seven the different Seattle. I think when they get rust back, depend on where they are, they might be able to make a little oneattle. Yeah. I hate to you don't want to just assume too much this early, but the fifth seed is going to be whoever doesn't win the NFC West and they're going to have eleven wins, yeah or more. So you don't want to be the fourth seed. Yeah, you don't want

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all in. I was. I was going to be there that Saturday at no if I can be there, but we'll try. You be there. You could be there to Sunday, November seventh when they take on that will be Broncos team they have not beaten since nineteen ninety five. Really, I can we retire? Can we? Like? I don't care. I don't care about how when the last time they beat an AFC team was? They only play him once every four years? So how old were you in nineteen ninety five, zero six or seven? Oh? I'm not that Yeah.

I grew up in New Orleans. The Saints were garbage and my whole life until high school when Breeze got there. I loved the Like when when when they got Torell Davis and we're doing their thing. I love the Broncos just like every other six year old bandwagon fan, not Arld Davis killed him in ninety eight, two thousand and one, two thousand one Thanksgiving. That was the game. That was the That was the game that Dave Campo did not go for two and they were down by they had

cut it to they were down like like sixteen. They're down my sixteen and they scored and they made it. We talked about that on the Bad Decision Dave and this this older, older reporter said why didn't you go for two? And he's like, well, because we didn't feel like it was the right time to do that and all that, and he was like, bad decision Dave was a bad decision. He was like yeah, right in the

press car. And that became kind of a monster of the media would say that regulate bad decision Dave his entire tenure every time he has. I'm a bad decision, But my friends say that to me on weekend nights, right, bad decision days. This weekend nights, you a good point. I was just trying to think. I mean, they haven't beaten him. I mean Ron Dane killed him Thanksgiving. I mean the best game was the Romoa game was so good. People were killing Daniel Jones in the game. They just

played that. The Cowboys won. He got concussed by Jabril Cox, which sucks for him. He's out for the year. I feel terrible about that. But Jabril Cox stops him on the naked boot and everybody was like, why would you do that with your quarterback? You're putting him in danger. I was like, no, I saw Peyton Manning do that here a few years ago and it kicked ass. You're the only one that saw it. Yeah, seriously, and the

Cowboy players. That's when I mean, look, I know, do you think that that right there, that game, I mean, is just Tony Romo's career in a nutshell, just the entire game. Yes, yeah, I mean, I mean, you're you're you're battling with like, you're flirting with greatness, with going up against the goat greatness, you know, and you're you're with them, you know, right then and then then like here here it is. Here's your moment. Go down there. You're sitting at like five hundred and six passing yards.

If you get your team and field goal range to win, you're gonna probably pass to get there, and by passing to get there, you're gonna set the NFL record for passing yards in a game. It's like five to sixty and you're sitting on the twenty yard line. You gotta get down there. You're gonna do it. You're gonna win fifty one to forty eight, and this is your moment. And then you throw a pick after a phenomenal game. Yeah,

that's his career two thousand and six. Not only that, all that and then he almost is Now I mean like that's ROBO's career. It's like it's like it's so close to being great and then it wasn't because of you. It sounds like a documentary. Hey, And it's not that line. It's the I mean maybe an agree to that I got. Tell him you can approach it that way, you let him see it with everybody else. What do you think?

It's the epitome of like those teams too, Like every game of those years, Like the narrative could have swung so wildly, Like if you beat Denver, you're three and two. They won their next two games. So if you get that win, now you're what. I can't do math. Now you're five and two. You know, those teams never got that far out ahead of their record ever, because you throw a late game interception and now you're two and three in your clawn just to try to get back

just enough to be interesting, but never could quite get there. Dave. Dave knows this answer because of his forearm. Uh do you remember who picked off Peyton Manning that day? I had one interception I'm the answers sitting there for you. He gave it away because it's like one of three interceptions of his entire career. No, Claymorn was that, Yeah he picked off Yeah, I picked off Peyton that day. He only had three in his career. No, it was

probably more than that with the Jets. I guarantee you saw Diggs has more this year than he had any he was at He was at Danny's. You know they're they're very good, They're very good friend. Yeah, skinny skinny mo. Skinny Mo? Is that what he is? Now? Hey, like I've said a thousand times, you've heard me say it, when players retire, they go one way or the other. Good point, and he went the other way. All right, let's yeah, let's get back to these injury Oh yeah,

I love Tuesdays. Yes, know what, Helen, where it's gonna go before getting an opportunity to see just kind of what happens when we're just kind of sitting around just talking, because that's exactly where it goes. It's all over the places. It's just a random conversation. But let's talk about Tyren Smith this angle ankle injury. Um, I'm I'm getting the impression.

I'm seeing the look on your face. I'm getting the impression that this is some thing that's a little more than just he banged it and kind of day to day type thing. Well, I'm a Mavericks fan, so I don't like the word spurs anyway, But um kidding, because there's a lot of kum yeah now, but a bones bur is that's what's what was revealed today. And you know that's that's an injury that if it requires surgery. If it requires surgery, then obviously that that's going to

take some time. But it's a pain injury. It's a pain injury. And you know, you could tell Dave at the game like it was very similar to New England, except for the fact that he didn't run back onto the field and play. I mean he was It's like he's kind of walking around. I thought he'll get back

in there, and he didn't. I thought it was weird because I yeah, you described it perfectly, but in my mind, I was like the way like he was just walking around slowly with this scowl on his face, and I was like not holding his helmet when the offense was on the field, he'd be down by the defense, just kind of pacing around looking pissed off. And when the offense was on the bench, he'd be standing there letting the starters sit. And I was like, he doesn't look

like he's coming back. But and what I thought made that weird was like, why don't you get out of the thirty pounds of equipment you have to wear if you're not going to come back. But I don't know, maybe that's just a personal decision, like now, I'll deal with that later, but it was, Yeah, it was curious to me. So you got shocked in that game when he was out that the Cowboys didn't decide to use Lyle Collins at tackle at one of those tackle positions. No,

and I talked about this this morning. It's I mean, I get it. He I think he could do it. He hasn't played. He was an amazing left tackle at LSU. That was twenty fourteen. That's I mean, Romo was leading them to the playoffs the last time Lyle played left tackle. That's a long time. He didn't rep it in practice, Tayan sec. He's been repping it since he's gotten back from his injury. He played it all through training camp.

Think that makes sense, like not just throwing a guy out there and asking him to do something he hasn't done in almost so I'll take that one step further. Knowing that this was something that went back to the New England game with Tyron. Did the Cowboys waste a week last week by having Lyle working at guard and firsts having end full Well, that was actually a good idea, But instead of having him working at tackle, knowing that Tyron may be a little gimpy, I'm I don't know

that that's just that, I don't know. That feels like a level of second guessing where I'm just like you have Inseci. You probably want to give a guy who's been out for five weeks like a very specific regimen and not just will just asking him to do everything at once. I think he should practice at left tackle this week. Yeah, I absolutely think he should. You think it left? You don't think but Steal at left. Here's my issue with that, And I said this on the

mail bag. That sounds good to put Terrence Steal on the left side. He's a little bit well, he's more Yeah, left is typically more you're you're more agile player, and he's Okay. Typically what worries me is Connor Williams and Terence Steal together side. Because if I'm a defensive coordinator and I'm trying to and I've got a Randy Gregory type, that's like just finding a spot where i can rush, I'm like, oh, let's go over here. I think you're

gonna just stay there overloading that side regularly. Not only that, I and I think I'm real quick. I think Zach Martin helps Terren Steele. We talked about that. Yeah, he helps him on that right, exactly right, Terrence. He's such a cool success story. The Cowboys deserve credit for believing in him when nobody else did all that good stuff. He's still a really young player. He played the left tackle in training camp, but all of his work since

the season started has been at right. I just don't think he's at the level where you want to be flopping him around just like, oh, well you're hurt over here and moving like, No, keep him where he's been good, Keep him where he's got a Hall of Famer helping him. Don't mess with a good thing, and honest, and I said this on the radio this morning. Just let if tyron camp go, which seems like a reasonable guess. Just let Enseci and Lyle battle that thing out all week.

I mean, if if Enseci it gets the nod, whatever, just let them wrap it out and see what looks best. I like everything you're saying there, except for the part about at some point, I don't know how this is all gonna shake out, and maybe it never will, maybe it's always gonna be like this, but you know, at some point you're gonna need Terrence Steel I think, to be the swing tackle. So, like you said, don't move him back and forth. But if I want I want a young guy to be a swing tackle, I mean,

then he needs to. But that's the work I want to give him in training camp in the off season, because that's about getting used to the idea that now you're you're when you when you're your footwork on the right side has to change on the left side. I don't want to do that in mid season. Like they said, he's playing pretty good right now, I don't want to mess with that. He kind of did though he was at left left tackle. Now he's a right But making that change in the middle of the season might be

a little bit more. I think I'm also McCarthy. Like, McCarthy's not going to give anything away, but you can find his likely answer in the context clusive what he says, and he loves him some continuity. He is obsessed. He brings it up a lot, the correlation between the combined starts of your offensive line. How many starts are you getting out of your five? How many times have they

played together? I haven't done the numbers myself, but he insists that the correlation between that and success is remarkable. So I think in a best case scenario, Mike McCarthy probably wants to keep as many people as possible where they are. Yeah, And Jerry said it on the radio today too, He said, you don't want to move too, you'd rather just move one to move two. So that we have an answer on this. Yeah, Yeah, Lyle can do it and hasn't done it in a long time.

Tie and Secky's been doing it. Let him just get it. Get out there on Wednesday and Thursday and see what looks better. When somebody calls this afternoon from the trade deadline and says, looks like you got a few tackles over there, you just kind of hang up on them or I politely say kick rocks. I wouldn't even say it politely. I'd be like, nah, I'm good, We'll give you a fifth. No, no, not right now, leave me alone fifth and sec. What's more like, we're sitting here

talking about Tyron Smith not being available again. It sucks. It's not his neck, by I just want to throw that out there. It's not his neck. But this is just this is it is what it is. Tyron Smith is not I don't want to say he's not reliable because he's such a tough player, but like you cannot count on him to be in the lineup. That that that is what it is. So why am I trying to get rid of people who can help me weather that problem with you? I'm not arguing with you. I'm

just you're six and one. In my opinion, from the standpoint of how you look at at this trade deadline, you're six and one. Don't do anything to disrupt what you currently have unless you're getting something helps you right now. Now, if you were trading, let's say they were saying, okay, we will, we will give you some really great center for tie and seki. Okay, now let's have a conversation, or you look at a position where you actually can upgrade your team by getting rid of something that you

think could be somewhat of a sour plus. Maybe you talk about it there. But I'm not willing to give up any assets right now for what can be a draft pick down the road that doesn't help me right now. I'm a sixty one team. I'm trying to win right now, right, and not to get cute, but I mean, the goal here obviously is to play thirteen more games. Yeah, yeah,

ten and then you want to play three more. And this team looks like somebody that you know, as good as any other team in the league, has a chance to play thirteen more games. And so I said this on the radio too when when they were called, um, they're talking about yesterday, would you do you know what? Would you give Tony Pollard? Would you trade Tony Pollard to somebody? They asked me that today's see. I laughed in their face, right all the stupid once again? Would

you do about it? Would you do a first round pick for Tony Pollard? Oh? Come on, that's what I said. I said, it's got to be a first round sick now, I actually I said it starts at a two, like I need. I would probably I said no to the two. It's not just I said it starts with a two, not just a two, but I need I need the two and then maybe another two or a three whatever you could make me an offer that I wouldn't be

able to say no too. But who's given all that up for Tony Pollard R. I mean not even the Titans already played their card. They went and signed Adrian Peterson. Why would they give up a first round pick on top of I mean, if you if you call it and offered me at first, I don't that would be hard to say no too. Yeah, unless it's one, especially if any guy that's that's a backup type player, that You're gonna offer me a one, and I'm definitely gonna

listen no matter what. But yeah, that's the point. They're not gonna do that. But and it's not feasible that you're gonna get rid of it. The thing, the thing that pisses me off about Pollard more than any is like they play the most physical position in the game, and Zeke's been very durable over his career, but like he's one horse caller away from being away from being gone, and they got nothing behind him. If if Tony Pollard's not on this team, like they got the they have

the best duo in the league right now. But if you get rid of that depth, like Rico Dowdle's not here,

they Clement cool Corey Clement. And as we've seen across the league this last week, there are a lot of teams whose fortune's changed with one player going down and not And I running backs don't matter, And like we talk about that in Tennessee, they do in Dallas too, Like good running backs still make a difference, like even even a good running team, Like everything that Lamar Jackson does for the Ravens, they are different without Dobbins and Edwards,

like they like they're making do with replacement level players. And that's what it looks like. Like guys with juice do matter. Maybe we can get into the whole thing about how much money you want to pay them, But Zeken Pollard or such an asset to this team, I

wouldn't want to mess with either one of them. I can't think of a single guy because you start going down at Liz people like Gallop and Collins and Steel and even Jarwin guys that you're like, they're not starters, would you consider I'm like, no, every single one of them could play a role for you if you get one injury. And that's where I'm like, on a team like this, it's not worth it us. You look at

the safety position, it's a good example. At one point, they're sitting there, like a few weeks ago, like we got all these guys coming, you know that are banged up, and I mean, they got all these guys, but like, what are you gonna do at safety? But they kind of just worked themselves out. You know, Donovan Wilson comes in and and I mean that he played a pretty good game the other day as well. Kazy ironic, I agree with you. That's two positions, which why would the

Cowboys be trying to get rid of players right now? Again, they're trying to low, they're trying to go far, but safety and defensive end are two positions where I would listen to that phone call, Like, I don't know who's beaten down your door for Dorian's Armstrong or Malee Cooker, but if somebody called about those guys, it's it's so weird to say that they have the depth at safety where they could do it. But they could. I'm not saying that they should. I just wouldn't. Yeah, I just wouldn't.

I and I you're right, you listen, but but I just I just feel like we all know the NFL, and we know how how dangerous sport it is from the standpoint of injuries and playing through injury and that kind of stuff. Do I take the chance when you got a team that has actually has depth in the free agency error, an NFL team that actually has depth at a lot of positions, why mess with that? I want to be clear, I would I don't understand why they would want to trade away really anybody on this

team right now. That's what they've got going. I think the only move that is made today is if is if somebody's looking to get rid of a veteran contract, you know, a guy that's going to be in his last year of his deal and so they're probably not resigning him, so they see if they can get something for him, and he comes in and he can you know, like like like a von Miller type of move, which type of move like that? I could see that I would have been only I would have done the Melvin

Ingram deal for sure. You saw it. You see that. Yeah, I would have considered Elvan. Yeah. Yeah. They gave up a sixth rounder. The Chiefs gave up a sixth rounder to get him from Pittsburgh, which which that's that's the on a deal that you talk about all the time. Give up a late round pick, which you know he's he's older. Now he's got one sack. I don't know if he's the same guy that was so great in LA for San Diego where whatever you want to call him. Um,

it's like it's a sixth round pick. Yeah, probably throw that on the table. I don't do the von Miller deal. No, I don't give up a two and a three for a guy at that age with on the last year of his deal. I'm just not willing to do that. Yeah, where a guard center, you know like that. I mean I'm talking about that type of guy, a guy that's maybe been to a Pro Bowl or whatever. But the thing is is he got You talked about continuity with McCarthy.

I mean, guy's gonna come in now. If you get a veteran like that, obviously he should be able to mesh quickly quickly. But I don't. I don't know, and then a corner I could see that maybe, but you know, just for you for your depth. But I mean like it or not. I mean, Anthony Brown's playing pretty well. They like what they're gonna get back. They're getting with Kelvin Joseph. That's the fun like every and that I mean, and that's what they keep saying, which is why I

don't expect anything to happen. Is uh, you know, I just mentioned Ingram, but it's even it's hard to find a place for him. Basham just had his best game. Armstrong's back tank is on the horizon. Mirandy's obviously killing it. Like it you could make it work if they had done that meal but but yeah, they got bodies there. Kelvin Joseph all of a sudden gives you a fourth corner that you hope can kind of wrote like mix

in and maybe get some additional playing time. So even the positions of need, they're getting guys back that can help them with that not not center up. It would have to be a guy, and it wouldn't be like a Marii Cooper, but it would have to be somebody to make a trade. It's somebody like, Okay, they're looking they're not going to resign him, but we probably will, Like we are going to resign this this guy. We we see him in the in the future. And where

where's a spot where you would do that? I mean, they like be honest, I mean, I'm just at center. They like him in a guard maybe I'm I don't know. I mean, Connor Williams is probably not coming back, I'm guessing. And so that's the position where if you're looking at a position, everything lines up to where but if you have the right opportunity, maybe it makes it. If I'm another team in the league, you know, when he goes to free agency, I would probably look at him at

center or tackle. I just don't think he's the guard. I think he's a center or a tackle. Um, he's got athleticism, he's just the strength is just that's where the problem is is that's where he gets those holds because he gets with somebody that's just a little bit. I think I think he could be a tackle, honestly, or maybe even a center. All right, we're gonna take our final break and we come back. We got a

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That's what he said. I'm fine. He didn't. I did notice after he finished interviewing with you after the game. Uh Me and Clarence Hill were standing outside a couple other media people came out of the press conference and and we were watching him, and he turned and he walked away. Didn't seem to have a limp, no boot,

nothing like that. So the assumption was maybe he's all right, but obviously you know, actually, when Mac watched the play, and I'm sure the fans have as well, it was it was like the third to last play of the game, and he didn't Nice drop him and somebody else got not mane a tackle right on the sideline there to kept it going um and he got just kicked. It wasn't like a cat caught underneath. He was like somebody

like kicked his ankle. He's a just shooting pain. He limped off, but you know that it was more like a bruise. It's fun but I will say this is funny. I was on the sideline and I looked over and it was big play because Mike's are trying to get out of bounds and the Cowboys got him right before. And I looked back and there's a ton of Cowboy fans. Everyone knows he could hear it. Cowboy fans, you could.

I just wish you could have seen how many people in the stands were doing the winded up sign of like keep like the refs will do when the clock is going. There were a ton of fans doing that. It was just kind of funny, like all these referees in the stands like knowing that rule and doing it, and everyone on the Cowboys sideline was doing it. It was it was without a doubt, and this is just how great the Cowboys season is, without a doubt. The

biggest crowd I've ever seen in Minnesota. Yeah, that's one of those cities. It's very similar to Kansas City in my opinion, it's one of those cities where they do a good job of maintaining their home field advantage. With regards of their fans, it's not a lot of You don't see a lot of extra fans that are not. New Orleans is another one. You don't see a lot of the other team's fans. Like they have a way of kind of maintaining control of their environment for the

most part. You know, I was, I mean, we're used to this Cowboy fans takeover FedEx, Phoenix, Miami, where you name it, they do it. But a lot of places I was blown away. And it's one like when when Cooper makes a catch, it's that's obvious because everybody knows to go cool, like that's cool. But when Zeke trucked those guys to pick up the third and eleven, I looked up from my laptop. I was like, are we in Arlington right now? And by the way, in this stadium,

obviously we have access. There's no glass separating us. We can actually hear the crowd. Yeah, and yeah, you could tell Cowboys fans were erupting in moments where Cowboys like things erupting, like the whole building is like freaking out that the Cowboys made a good play. Like I was stunned. And that's like I said, I know that this happens, but I wasn't ready for it. I put it on Twitter. I have that video of Shannon actually took the video

of Cooper catching the touchdown. Of course, I'm you know, standing right there in the corner and knowing that I'm the cameras on so I'm trying to like play it cool and you know, but really, more of all I'm thinking of it is, Okay, there's fifty one seconds left, so there's a lot of football left. I'm thinking probably in my in my head, I'm thinking Dave's probably up there going you left too much time, too much time on the club. I actually so, but real quick before

you get to that point. I was just like everybody that responded the on Twitter about that is like I can't believe that loud it was when he caught the game winner for a minute to go. H No, I was just I tweeted this when it happened, like, if DA's your quarterback, then that was stupid, like I just you trust your quarterback. I would play it differently. I would try to bleed clock. You trust a guy that's playing at an MVP level, Cooper Rush, just scredown. You

just score the touchdown, take the lead. And by the way, the defense have been playing their butts. And yeah, I do not put Kirk Cousins in the Brady Rogers class where you're like out, yeah, I mean, you're screwed. You too much time. When I saw fifty one seconds, I was like, kylways won this game because I again, yeah, because again, I don't go. I don't put I don't put Kirk Cousins in that category. Like now, if it was one of those quarterbacks that that just well, but no,

and here's the other thing. If it would have been for a field goal, I would have been like, Okay, this is gonna be a problem. It need they needed to drive the field and get a touchdown. They hadn't done that since the first quarter. But there was trusting. There were seven people against them, and I don't't say it like that. Yeah, no, I'm not a bit like that. But but it's a little bit much. It's a little strong.

It's not against them, But but I mean it is a it was a flag happy crew, and yeah, and so all it takes. All I thought about was the twenty seventeen game against the Raiders when they took a lead like that and it was like a sixty five yard pass interference penalty to get down there. All it takes is something crazy like that. Jefferson's gotta beat, he stops, Anthony Brown runs into him. Flag. Next thing you know, you're on the thirty five and you're throwing. I get that.

I just didn't trust. I didn't trust him to get them down for a touchdown. If it would have been a field goal, been completely different. Yea. I didn't expect no time that ever again, not that I did this time, but I mean, we might see him again in the playoffs. I'm not buying into him anymore. And remember they couldn't even halftime. They couldn't even manage halftime. They didn't manage half time. They certainly blew that. And I think you're right, Chris,

I think that they thought three points. Cowboys got three points. We're up ten three. Wait, what's Scooper Rush gonna do? Come out in the third quarter on third By the way, he hadn't done anything. He had not done anything up until that point. And I really think halftime, I think Kellen decided, look, if we're gonna win this game, we gotta turn him a loose and whatever happens happens, but we gotta turn loose. I had seventeen passes at halftime,

ended with forty one. Go go back and look or go go look at the score by quarters for this season. It's you know, Cowboys had pretty much leading just about every quarters. Third quarter. They kick people's ass in the third quarter. It's a credit to Kellen Moore, It's a credit to Dayan Quinn. They I mean, I know you think halftime adjustments are over rated or think you've said that. Well, I just think you don't have a lot of time. It doesn't happen at halftime. It's like both bands happen

in high school. It happen minute constantly throughout the game. Like by the time they all get down there and get into the locker room, they've probably got three and a half minutes before they got to go back out. Why why do you think, I mean, why do you why do we think the third quarter has been been good for I don't know if I agree with that completely, Dave.

I do think at halftime sometimes again, especially if you're defensive coordinators up in the box, I do think there is a moment for the coach to talk to his coordinators and say, Okay, we're gonna strategically do more of this, do less of this. I just think let's try to see if we can incorporate this more because this is what we're seeing. By the time the third quarter starts, I just think you've got a pretty complete data set of what they're trying to do and what you think

true can do. Yes, it matters, of course it matters. All I'm saying is like, there's not just this grand scene from a movie where McCarthy comes onto the whiteboard in the locker room. He's like, all right, listen up, they've been doing this, and we're gonna do that, and we're gonna go out. We're gonna kicked. Like that doesn't have it. See that doesn't happen. They go, they huddle in their position groups and they're like, Okay, we're seeing a lot of quarters here in this down in this distance.

We here's how we're gonna These are our beaters for this like, that's half time. Those that half it happens in the first quarter two. I get that. I get that. I do think though, at halftime, that's when everything stops for a minute. You're doing that all that stuff during the game there are bullets flying everywhere. I think that's when it stops for a moment and everybody can say, Okay, guys, here's the overall. Here's what we were talking about a

little bit in the first quarter, second quarter. Here's how we're gonna handle this the rest of the scene. I've seen it happen in the middle of a game. You completely make a change to your defensive scheme in the middle of the game. Coach jos brought brought team over. I felt so hard for that. Jones was like the storytime we give up a great all night. That's right happen. Oh my god, I felt. I felt for that hooklient and sinker. No. I was gonna make Oh no, it's

funny you brought that up. I wound up next to a family of Vikings fans. I guess, you know, maybe they're from up there or whatever, but they were flying back here with me. So I was on the airport shuttle with them, and this grumpy Vikings fan was like, you know, we're we're like the highest scoring offense in the NFL in the first quarter and we're thirtieth in the second half. I was just like, yikes, I mean that that sucks. That played out on Sunday night like that.

I was just like, man, it sucks to be all sorry about it sucks. All right, Well, appreciate you guys, Johns. We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna start getting into this next game, Cowboys versus Broncos. They will be without Von Miller, so that makes it a a little easier. We'll talk about that tomorrow. We'll talk about the Broncos offense versus the Cowboys defense. Till then. For Dave Hellman, Nicki ben On, Derek Eagleton, This has been The Break live on Dallas

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