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While the Cowboys are winning with defense, we debated and maybe the Eagles’ defense is just as good.

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The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, October thirteenth, twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number fifty. Welcome to

another edition of the Break Lifts, WBC Morgan Studios. At the start, we are presented our middle like the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. And today we talked about the Philadelphia defense versus the Cowboys offense. We got lots of questions. There are lots of things to discuss there. We might even get some questions that were left over from Tuesday about the offense. But let's start first with getting some some updates on some injuries. Nick, what do

we hear this morning? I guess on Dak and where he is from his practicesterday. I think it went well as what McCarthy said, but I mean Dak said it yesterday in the locker room as well that you know they were it was. It was a good throwing session. And you know, he's playing with the media. I mean, he knows when the media is out there for fifteen minutes, he's throwing the ball left handed and doing all that kind of stuff. But he's doing things when they leave,

he's he's ramping it up a little bit more. And he said that they were able to cut it loose a little bit, put some zip on the ball. He says, I'm not gonna throw if I don't have it. You know, if I don't have the zip, I'm not gonna throw it. So it sounds like it's ramping up that way. McCarthy said, it went well, he'll do some more of that. Again. They're not going to rule him out. I don't think unless I heard something different, I don't think they're gonna

rule them out until they have to. But he you know, he's not playing this week. Yeah, he threw everything but the nine, which is the vertical route, and then the post, so everything else basically, Yeah, they took the deep shots out of the game and so they threw underneath intermediate stuff like that is how it all it all worked out. I was just laughing because it's like you can you can argue they took that out a long time ago, like that's not really, that's not but you know what,

is that true? Though? Nick? You said that yesterday, and I think about a number of times I've seen him connect downfield, particularly Michael Gallop, I don't. I don't think it's fair say it's not a part of his game. It's a part of his game. You ask me what what Cooper Rush does better than than Dak I think it would be deep ball. I think I think that, yes, more than we saw it with that, I don't think

so okay. I don't think so either. I don't think so okay, not as often because I just think that the way they've been playing with Cooper Rush, it's a little bit more conservative in that aspect where they're not giving him those many opportunities, but that it's a conservative throw. Honestly, it'd be told it's a conservative throw for the way Cooper Rush throws it. I think he throws the ball more down the field even when he plays in the preseason games, because that's what we have to go off of.

I think he takes I think he feels more comfortable throwing it express it to the right, his right side. I think he feels comfortable doing that more than some of the other guys, I think than Dak does. Yeah, I think it's it's fair to maybe say that's a comfortable throw for him. I don't know that we've seen evidence that he connects on that anymore frequently than Dak does.

That's my point. So if you look at the results, I don't think that this is necessarily thing where you say Cooper Rush is a better deep ball thrower from the standpoint of results than Dak. Well. The thing is, though, with Cooper Rush, they will get max protection throw that ball down the field. So that's the thing I think, if you want to do it, They've done it occasionally with Dak, but not to the point with Cooper Rush.

Cooper Rush has done it far more. And I think all of it has to do with Michael Gallup the game the other day, they got in a situation where they were getting past interference called too. I think I think you know, that's these coaches have got to figure out, and a lot of them do when you have games

where officials are going to call things certain ways. The game last year it was a great example of like, you know, you know, if I'm just throwing the deep ball because the fistals are going to call pass interference every time. And you got a situation the other day where where where Gallup was able to get down the field and it was either going to be pass interference on the commander's corner or it was going to be a catch. So I think that, to me, there needs

to be that plan in the game. It's like, hey, let's take a deep shot here, let's see what you know. I think I think Dat needs more of that, you know, I think that to me that that's I see it as part of his game, but I think it's something that they could probably take a little bit better advantage of. You know, if you go, if you're one of those

numbers nerds. I think he was fifth in the league last year in deep ball throws, you know, So to me, take some shots, go for it, you know, if you want to do that, But they they need to do it more. That's that's I you know, I like what Nick saying about, you know, about the situation about how he throws it, but take more shots at it, you know, don't just you know, think everything underneath and intermediate with him.

I am dying to know after this game, win or lose, how the whole narrative starts changing on whether how soon you got Dick back in or how a little bit more longer it takes to heal that win or lose though, I mean, it's not win or lose. You don't think, no, no, there's two completely different narratives based off win or lose. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to see it what happens. Yeah, yeah, because did you hear did you hear it? Troy? He throws wood right on the

fire this morning? Like cowboys going win in Philly. I think you gotta start talking about whether you really want to bring Deak. But it's just this thing has taken on a whole life of its own in my opinion that I just don't I don't see, I don't get it. But yeah, I mean, you know that's you know, Jerry Jones came out several weeks ago and says he wants a quarterback controversy. So you go out win Philadelphia, you

got your quarterback controversy. I know, I know one thing doing radio every day, I want five three that that there are people that absolutely want to see this thing play out with Cooper Rush. And there's the people on the Dack end of it. They're terrified that he's gonna

win this game. You know that there it's that divided on these on these folks, and you know it's you know, they've made the decision as a front office, and you know, as critical as I've been at the front office, you know, they have done a lot of things the right way. And you know, if by if they bring Dak Prescott back, I'm I'm not betting against him now because everything they seem to do has come to up asis for them.

You know, it's it's worked out all Hey, don't worry about the receivers, don't worry about the offensive line, don't worry about this, don't worry about that. You know, all those questions that we had, you know, it seems like that their decisions are actually been the right decisions. You know, so I'm you know, it's not me to sit there and say, you know that it would be you know, I think that they I think that they could do more with Dak at quarterback. But you need to see

Dak do more and win games. Yeah, that's that's where this argument is. You mentioned the receivers, and that led me to think, do you guys feel that because we always talk about how Dak needs help around him most quarterbacks do. Okay, we get that point, but he does

need that kind of help. We know the improvements that the old line has had and they're doing good, but as far as the receivers and the rest of the group you can throw in their running backs as well, do you feel that everybody else is doing enough to what Dak would need? And this is a weird question because you're seeing it with what they're giving Cooper Rush, But when you get daged back in, are everybody else

doing enough to cater to him? Well? Right now, my opinion, catering to him, or catering to any quarterback on this team is about the defense. It's not about the receivers, it's not about the tight ends, it's not about the offensive line. It is, in my opinion, about this defense.

That's the other reason why I have a hard time with the whole Cooper Rush conversation is because he is playing with right now, in my opinion, one of the best, if not the best defenses in the National Football League, and doing that will forwards you a lot of letl if you have a team where you're like punning is a good thing, you know you're doing it like that means that the defense is what you you rely on.

So for me, I don't think it's about the it's not about the receivers, it's not about all the other stuff. It's about the defense. As long as the defense keeps playing, you can keep winning. Is it gonna be clear this week? That's what I was gonna ask. Is it gonna is this the weekend where all of a sudden that you know, ten offensive points are not going to be enough? Yeah? Probably, I mean probably, I mean, yeah, it seems that way.

We'll see what's gonna bend. I mean, we'll see if the Cowboys defense is really really that good in that dynamic. But we're gonna get into it as well. Like the Eagles are winning with defense as well. I mean the Eagles deep, yes they are there, but look at their offensive numbers. Their offensive numbers up there as well, right, but they're winning with defense though. Defense. I mean, look at what look at what they're I mean, they that they did not in the Detroit game, but all the

other games they won. Their defense is playing lights out. I'm just saying this isn't You can't just make the claim that the Cowboys have the best defense on the field in this game. I mean, I think the Eagles or defense is just is just as good. Their point their stats are good, and the reason why they're five

and ohs because their offense is dynamic as well. It's kind of what you hope Dallas's offense would be with a really good defense, that the ability to score some points and then you know, that's that's that that I just go back to win. And I was working in Green Bay way way back in the day when you played the Cowboys the Super Bowl Cowboys, they would get a lead on you and then the defense would choke you out. You know. That's that's where my experience was. Yeah,

that's the way it always was. It was they found a way to use the weapons. They would get twenty four points and that was enough. Yeah, it would always that sounds like that's how Philly is doing it. I think is is their offense good enough to get those points and then the defense is just like, you're not coming back where I think that that this is going to end, you know, eventually, for for Cooper Rush and the Cowboys, is this winning streak is the red zone offense.

And yes, there's things that I think that that Cooper does just as well, if not somewhat better than Dak. But there are some things that Dak obviously does better. And that to me is pocket presence and awareness and red zone and the ability to RPOs and ability to run in touchdowns. I don't see that happening from the six yard line of Cooper Rush running it in. Dat

can do that. And I think red zone struggles are going to be an issue if you can't run the ball and have a quarterback because Jalen Hurts certainly does and I'm not saying Dak would be Hurts, but Dad can do more of that, and I think when you get down there, it's gonna be harder to score. I think obviously DAK would give you a better red zone ability to score. Okay, you have better memories. I think I'm trying to remember or if my memory is playing

games with me. But I feel like they have been okay, like they're bettering the red zone, but their problem is getting to the red zone, Like they can never get to that point. But when they get there, they seem to be to be fairly okay. Which here which well, I will say this get talking about what what Zeke said yesterday. He pointed out that he thought the biggest problem for this offense is third downs. Yeah, and they

look at it right now. They're twenty ninth in the league and converting third downs that is a significant problem for them. And you want to talk about sustaining drives to get to the red zone, that's part of the problem. They're not sustaining drives enough to get those convert those third downs. But once they rarely make it there, they seem to I mean, from what I remember, they managed to get in whether it's running the ball or going no, no,

you're right, But it's with Zeke's right. They're they're they're they're bad on third downs. And that's the thing about it that you know you had two thirds, actually had three third downs the other day that you could have converted on all three, you know they but you had the penalty on the third and one run when Hendershott got called for holding. At the end of the game, you had to drop by Ceedee Lamb and you had to drop by by our other guy, Uh, why don't

everyone's the Gallup Michael Gallup. Yeah, guy just was to me names in my head. But Gallup, you know his drop and ceedee Lambs drop and then the holding point. That was three third down plays that should have been converted, you know, those were all third and then that keeps drives going. And so now your percentage was there. I think they're like at thirty one percent right now, you know. So we're on the other end of it, though. The Eagles on their offense are like, you know, ten to

twelve percentage points better than that. Yeah, so you know, but their Eagles defense though, has been a little bit of a struggle on third down for them too. So well, you know, something something might have to give in this football game. Yeah, they're they're twenty fifth right now in the league and third downs that they're giving up. So they're giving up a lot of third downs. Cowboys aren't getting third downs. Something will, something has to somebody's gonna

get better this game. I'll go back to the red zone here. The the Cowboys rank thirty first in the NFL and trips to the red eleven. Only Houston has has less, with ten on the flip side. Oh well, and of that eleven there, they've scored six times, so touchdown, so that's a forty five percent. You know that that ranks them twenty six. But trips to the red zone

only eleven, which is the problem getting there. Yeah, now they have you know, a couple of long runs and stuff like that, but for the most part, you know that that's been a challenge. But on the flip side, they've only allowed teams in their nine times, which is by far the best in the in the league. So um and and so their defense is really really good in the red zone. In their offense not so much.

Once again, you're winning with defense. This is this offense is actually if this offence is playing but no, but but I think you know what the point is. The point is if you take this offense run by Cooper Rush and you put it with the defense from last year, the Cowboys are probably a one or two win team

right now. That's probably where they with you. And and so that's again that's what And I keep making a point because I'm making the point that let's let's hold off on trying to say that that you need to just keep Cooper Rush in there, because there is gonna come a game because it happens every year. Well, even if you have a great defense, they're gonna have a rough matchup or they're gonna have a rough game and you're gonna need the offensive step up. And I'm with you.

I'm ready to see Dak. I'm ready to see him back in the lineup. But again, I'm gonna stick with it. I mean, lose a game, Cooper Rush, I mean, quit being a stubborn lose the game, you know, quit being selfish and keep winning these games. I mean that it's his faulty one. Is he winning these games though, Like that's the that's the problem. He's not winning these games,

you know. But we set here for years and I had Dave and you talking about Dak's four hundred yard games with an l you know, like all these stats he's putting down and all that. So I've been saying it's a tough balance because you know, we've seen these fourth quarter magical games that didn't end up well. But it's like, with what kind of defense right, right, right, and what's right He's never played with this kind of defense, it will be great. But again, it's just the superstition

in me. I'm not pulling a I wouldn't, but I'm not the the same. I mean, how much would you say the defense improved from week one versus the rest of it? You know, he had this defense in week one? Yeah, but but they and they, I mean they, hell, they're not as good against goats. They're not they're I mean, they're not a good against Brady. And let's also be clear, is that has that been the best offense this teams

played this year? I would say so. So maybe what we find out is when you're playing right, So maybe when you're playing that caliber team, maybe your offense is really have to score more points. And by the way you're playing, maybe that may have been the best defense that you played this year. I think the point, I think the point you made yesterday and I actually stole it and used it on the radio yesterday was the one about where you put all the rankings for the

offensive lines that they played. You know, when you start saying rams thirty one, yeah, they're commanders thirty. You know, you start going through and like, because I asked my I mean they were My guys were like, you gotta run the ball, you gotta you gotta you know, you gotta and I go, you think this team's pass rush is any good? And they're like, oh god, it's the best in the league. Okay, here, let me run off who all they're playing against. And then and then Gavin

immediately went to break. You know, we went right, you know, we're not talking about you know, it's because you know, the argument was. The argument was about you know, how they went in these games, they do in this, you know on that and I'm like, okay, and I go, and I gave you credit I actually does is Derek Eagleton brought this up on the on the show that I was with, and so yeah, I mean it's sometimes, but it's it's it's a it's not a small sample size.

I mean there's things that you're looking at right now and you're going like, okay, is this what we're going to see the rest of the year. Remember last year, eight weeks in the season, we were all talking about Kevin Moore being the next head coat somewhere. We were all worried about losing Kellen Moore because how good the offense was. And then eight weeks later we were all trying to get rid of Kellen Moore. You know that.

You just you just hope this isn't the flip of like all of a sudden, Oh, the Philadelphia, Philadelphia showed you how to attack the Dallas defense. You know that kind of thing I got. If that happens, I don't know what do you do? You have? Were I forgot? But where does Pheley rank? As far as these are sacking we're talking about sacks, they're eighteenth, They're eighteenth their offensive life, so it's not great, but they're they're banging.

And they played some teams the Cowboys where they've taken advantage of offensive lines. They've done and they and that's something that in the past they never did. They never took advantage of a compromised offense. And let's also be clear, I think I personally think the model of how you beat this defense is already out there. Team just haven't been able to get them in that situation enough. They

are not a good run defense. They are towards the bottom part of league when it comes to run defense. You get them in a situation where you get an elite on them and now you can effectively run the ball and you don't have to panic and get away from your run that's a way to get at this defense, I think. And this is why this game I think is pivotal because it is a team that has that balance. Like you were saying, this is a really good defense.

It's a good offense too. They can score maybe more points than what you've seen so far and be able to stick with their run games. So you're saying, to take the ball if you win the toss. No, no, I'm deferring because we were trying to yesterday, trying to figure out though, and ask you guys this question. We were trying to figure out if you could trade for something. I don't don't tell me a player, just tell me a position. Tell me a position right now that you

would trade for to help this team going forward. Because because my guys all were saying defensive tackle, and I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, it's not the inside runs, it's the perimeter stuff. And so I went into this long you know how I talk, you know, I'm like waving my hands like Brad Sham talking, you know, and that kind of thing. And so I'm trying to say to wait a minute, you know, how about the safety, the forced corner, how about the defensive end.

How about that's not players, that's just how you play. But there's like, no, if you get this, you go trade for the guy a Carolina, the big defensive tackle, you know. And I'm like, it's not that, it's the edges, it's the outside that runs. The one thing the note actually was just looking to stat before we came in. Cowboys are ranked twenty first in the league and giving up inside runs four point four yards per carry. They are ranked twentieth giving up five point one yards per

carry on outside runs. So they have been equally bad on both. Okay, they're not great, but here's it seems like to me they get killed on the perimeter more than they get killed in right now, And I agree with you. I agree with you, but I don't think I don't think it's necessarily about personnel. I think these are scheme induced. Like what I mean by that is, I think you got a very aggressive defense. They are going at the quarterback, and I think they get gashed sometimes.

I think that if because there are times in games when opponents want to run the ball and Cowboys are having are not having it. And I think it's because they basically are in no situations of the game, like, all right, let's lock down on the run. We're not rushing the passer in the same way we are locking down the run. So I think they have the personnel if you gave me that choice of what player I want. It ain't even on the defensive side of the ball.

I'm good with my personnel there. Keep what we got figure out, and I trust dan Quinn to figure it out. I think there are a number of places on the offense where you say, well, we could be a little better here, and maybe that gives us a little more All right, we're gonna take our first break and we come back. We're gonna jump in Philly defense versus Dallas offense. We'll be right back Dallas Cowboys dot Com review. Todd thought it would be secure to jog and the cheetah Savanna.

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what's the best thing they do. I think it's it starts with really the front seven. You know, when you look at them, they've got a really nice rotation, much like the Cowboys do with their guys. Josh Sweats playing well, Fletcher Cox, we all we know him from days gone by. You know, Hargrave at the defensive tackle, him and Jordan Davis had been kind of rotating their Brandon Graham is every time I want to throw dirt on Brandon Graham, he comes back with a soccer three, you know, that

kind of thing. But yeah, they've done a really nice job and Hassan Reddick as well. So it's really about up front. It's about the pressure that they're able to get. They do a good job of their physical you know, handling blocks, you know, getting off blocks, getting up the field, being disruptive. I think that their secondary is the one that you could kind of I know it's James Bradbury and Darius Slay and guys like that. I think this. I think Gardner Johnson their nickel or really their safety.

I think that's a little bit of a liability for them as a tackler. So to me, when they play zone coverage, they get in trouble. There's a lot of routes that you see in front and Arizona, I thought did a really nice job of sitting down in zones and attack in that and they were Kyler Murray was able to find, you know, find his guy. So when you had to take advantage of that, they're gonna play his own coverage on you. This Uh, this is a team also too that likes to hold in the secondary.

And this week, you know, when you look at the officials, uh, you know it's it's gonna be it's gonna be whether you get those holding calls in this game. And because they're a very grabby group and you know that could kind of swing a game one way or another. So it's John Hussey as the official in this game. And Hussey's crew calls the second most UH pass interference penalties in the league. And so but the you know that

that's something to keep an eye on right there. Because Sleigh likes to hold, Bradberry likes to hold, and when they get the opportunity. Maddox has been injured for them, so he hasn't been a factor in this thing. As like the nickel, But I think it's going back to it, Derek. Guys, it starts really upfront with these guys. How many how many games or did you see other games than Arizona?

Because I wonder is when you when you face Kyler Murray, you're worried about that kind of dynamic, do you play it differently than they're not gonna be worried as much about Cooper Rush. Do you think they play the zone as much in other teams or maybe just that one. I just think that there was a there was a good balance. It's a great question. I think there was

a pretty good balance of that. When you see they they they get in man they like to play man coverage when they get into their nickel stuff on a third down, and then they'll play the zone stuff seems to be I think they're a little scared about the speed on the outside or lack of when they get guys. You know, they don't want to just get up on

somebody and get run by. So I think it's more of a it's more of a uh, it's more of a trying like Okay, we're gonna come after you, we're gonna blitch you, We're gonna rush you, We're gonna play man there. But I saw a lot more zone than I did, you know, with the with the man demand stuff on the games I did. I watched three three them play three games, and you know they were you know they were, they were. It just seemed like to me when they're when they were given up plays, it

was because of the zone coverage stuff. Going back to the stat which I had seen earlier to about third downs and the comparison between what they give up and what the Cowboys currently do. Do you think Brian that for this game, because there are times where I think, Okay, you trust your defense so much, and I get it, you have to punt at times, but why not take

that extra like try, like go for it? So do you think maybe this is a time where we'll see them kind of going for it a little more than what they're used to, just to give it a try and see if they are successful. I think you have two coaches, and I would call McCarthy pretty aggressive with what he does too, when he goes back to when you go back to the look at what he's done going for it on his own end of the field.

You know, I mean, I think and I know that Siriani their coaches, he's a go for it guy from the jump. So yeah, it's just gonna be one of those games where I think both teams have the ability, and especially if like say that, when I watched Philadelphia on tape, it was it just seemed like that they're always going for it on fourth down, no matter where they are on the field. Not as bad as what the Chargers do. Chargers are on their own eighteen yard line and they go for it on fourth down because

that's what they do. But this guy is very, very aggressive that way. And then McCarthy has proven though the last couple of times that they've been out those fourth downs that they've had, whether on his end or the other end, that he's more willing to go for it. So I think this is a game that you got to go out there and you have to be aggressive end,

you know. I mean, people are probably feeling like that the Cowboys are not going to win this game with Cooper Rush at quarterback, you know, they're gonna and he might have to take some chances to get some points too. You know, three points kicking field goals might not be enough in this game. You know, having to find a way to get touchdowns. That's probably the path that he that he's gonna need to take. You look at Philadelphia's rush defense, and it's been it's been a weird mix.

There's some games are given up a lot to some games. They've been very bad games Alliance. They're Yeah, they're averaging one hundred and three yards per game. Yeah, that they allow against the Lions, they gave up one hundred and eighty one yards on ground, which is huge, one to twenty four against Arizona. What did Arizona and Detroit do specifically that made them more successful against the running than

some of the other opponents. Yeah, I think which the thing that when Detroit just took the ball right at them too, and you know they were able to they know it was one of those things when you play the first game as the first game of the year, so you always worry about conditioning and things like that. You know, when it comes to when it comes to how your team's gonna play, where they ready, were they

prepared to have the rotations and stuff like that. I think Detroit was just more physical than and this is this could be a very physical front. But what they're also in a situation and right now is where you know they they're linebackers. When you get past that first level, it's see some problems with their linebackers too. You know, whether it was t J. Edwards, you know that he's

as a MIC linebacker. They really Hassan Reddicks listened as a SAM linebacker, but he's more of a rusher, so people that we're able to kind of break that first, that first wave and then get there's you know, the stuff with this is a very aggressive defense. So you get guys that you take them one way and then bring the ball back the other with the polls and the traps and things like that. So that's kind of what the Detroit. I thought Detroit was just more physical

running the football. Arizona again, the stuff with the quarterback makes a lot of difference for them too. Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned Hassan Reddick. He leads their team with four and a half sacks. He's a linebacker, which signifies me they must be blitzing quite a bit. That being said, how much do they blitz and where does he typically line up if there is a beat on that on where I noticed he plays on your he plays on

a lot of it on the on the offensive right side. Okay, so he's gonna be on the defensive left is what's gonna happen. Josh Sweat generally plays the other side, uh, you know with with that rush. So if you're gonna if you're gonna see Reddick, he's gonna moving around part I. Every time I looked at it, I'd say, Okay, where's he going to be? It was off that right tackle spot is where he's going to come from. How comfortably

feel with that? I mean still over there? They give him a little help, I would assume, But how do you feel? How comfortable do you guys feel with that? And you've talked Nick a lot about Tony Pollard and the reason why Tony Pollard doesn't get on the feel as much as everybody wants to see him is because of blitz pick up. Yeah, I thought he missed one the other day with Ramsey coming off the edge. You know, I don't think he saw it right away. He kind of went inside of the guard and I didn't. I

just didn't think he saw it at all. And now that would have been a quite a collision if he did, because I mean Ramsey's screaming off the edge there. But that's what he's supposed to do. I mean, you know, he's a willing blocker. He just you just gotta be alert and you also have to be big enough to do it. That's one of his issues. Um, but you know the awareness though, if you mentioned that, that's the thing. I think the biggest thing with with Pollard is his

willingness to do it. I think don't think it's a problem. The finish is not always great. It's how are you reading it? How are you seeing it? Are you are You're you know, most guys are taught to read inside out and you know, and sometimes he gets just so inside focused that you miss that that slot blitz is what happened last week on that play. Yeah, yeah, real quick before we go to break. I did have this

other question. You look at their past defense, and although you talked about the front seven, yeah, they've been very Stingty only given up one hundred and eighty nine yards per game passing. That is a I mean, that's a really really great number. My question would be, is that more a reflection of their past rush? I think it's rush. I think it's the rush. I think the front the front clearly affects the way that people throw the ball. I do feel like, you know, this team is seeing

James Bradbury play when he's with the Giants. You know, you've seen Darius Slay play, you know, with when he spent at Philadelphia. But I could say that you know this, this this Gardner Johnson that they traded for from the from New Orleans. I don't think he's been as good. And so to me, you know, these guys hold. I mentioned that because of the flat, they hold a lot.

They're in position because they're holding. And I'll be interested to see if the officials, like I say, call this in a way that they allow them to get away with it. If they do allow them to get away with it, then yeah, that's where you that's where you limit the yards. But to me, there's a lot of

times where this group could have been called for. I was watching the Arizona game and just the way Darius Slay inside breaking rods, grabbing guy's arms, pulling the guy's arm, you know, downline you're and it's not a call, and you're like going, oh, okay, well if that's if. But to their credit, they haven't been called for it. We'll see if this crew does call it though this week. Let's add to our final break when we come back. We have some questions from some fans about this upcoming matchup.

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blockchain dot com. And let's get into some questions. Thanks Chris. Let's get into some questions that we have from some fans. They were sent earlier this week, but I save someone because we didn't get to them, and they are specific to the Cowboys offense. First question from Blue Star Gang says, have we seen enough from Noah Brown to where Washington is now expendable or as Tolbert underwhelmed to the point you have to keep Washington as your fourth receiver. So

there's two questions here. I kind of really forgot about Tolbert again. You're done with Tolbert? No, no, no, no, no, I'm not done with him. He just got here, hold on, all right, but no, it's just again, we were waiting for him to get back from the injury and all that. Then he got back, he didn't do much, and then it just easily became like, I don't remember what has

he done that. I genuinely do not remember what he's done other than that first week when he got back in Yeah, I think that his confidence really got crushed in Oxnard, you know, and they asked him to do a lot of things, and it just didn't appear that he was very capable of doing it. I really believed when we were doing the draft show that he was NFL ready. When you watched him play, he looked very confident, he looked poised, you know, he made big plays you know,

in those games. And he got here and he looks like a completely different player. And so now when you do that, you go back and you say, Okay, what did I see? Did I miss something with this player? I think that I think that he just got overwhelmed and I don't think he ever recovered from that, and so being inactive and all that, I you know, it's sometimes it's it's one of those things that you have to go through. But he just doesn't look like that.

They number one, They don't have confidence in him right now. They probably wouldn't you know, if you asked him with a microphone in their face, they would say, no, no, we're happy with everything. But they're probably thinking, Okay, how can we build this kid because he's he's not the same player he was at South Alabama? Coming from South Alabama? I mean, should we be a little more patient? Like, yeah, well, should they have to be more patient? Well? His I

got his stats right here. His freshman year he had played five games, he caught five balls for sixty yards. Okay, his uh, his junior year he caught sixty four passes four thousand yards and eight touchdowns. And his senior year twelve I mean eighty two catches fourteen hundred yards. Well, I mean, I know, I get your point. Yeah, I mean right, you have to and and and I will always be a little bit more patient every time because of A Miles Austin. They're not all gonna be that way.

Sometimes they're Jamaica director is just gonna be Jamaica Director. I mean that's just the way it is, right, But but you have to be patient with not only receivers, but small school receivers like that. You said, you know, he got here and he looked like a different player, and he probably did. He also saw a different player on the other side of him, and so you know,

I think you have to be patient. But yeah, I mean I would have thought, you know, but then again, he said, he's a few inches away from a different mentality all around. If he gets his right foot down and he scores that touchdown against the Chargers and then you're like, oh, look at him, you know, in the back of the end zone. Nice play. But so he you know, he was really close to making some plays, and so I think it gives you some confidence of saying,

all right, don't need him as much this year. But I bet you next year we'll hear McCarthy saying, one guy I really like from last year is Jalon Tolber. He was in the workout, he's been at the backyard back there, he's you know, so we'll see. Yeah, that's the thing too. And I think you make a great point about that. The thing that maybe five to eight years ago, when you say that you kind of let

go all right, makes sense. The way that these receivers are coming out of college that is true, and then all of a sudden jumping in and it doesn't matter. I know, the Packers drafting kid from North Dakota State and he's a dropping balls. He was a second round pick. I mean, there's a lot of kids, and not every kid is like Chase Sir Jeffers Center like that. But we're starting to see a lot more that these college kids are coming in and stepping in and immediately starting

to play. Yeah, And that's the thing that's just a little disheartening as an evaluator that you kind of felt like, this is one of those kids, this is one of those kids that could come in and play. And you're right, you know, it's it's a lot different playing you know, Appalachian State than it is playing the Los Angeles Rams. You know, you know, but you know who messes it up for everyone? It's always one guy that messes it up because there's probably a thought process of these small

school receivers and all that. And then Cooper Cup comes in and you are all over Cooper Cup in the draft and he was he was as good if not wait was he his first year? I don't remember. I think he was. He was immediately Brian was upset, but that they didn't. I mean he would he was all over.

Yeah I knew, I knew from draft. But but I mean he obviously good enough to say hmm uhh yeah see the thing yea, But yeah, that's the thing that just because what we've seen in this day and age with like say five to eight years ago, it man, these you know, first round receiver the numbers were forty eight catches, eight hundred and sixty four yards, four touchdowns. Now it's you know, now it's one hundred and ten catches, and you know, it's these crazy numbers, and you're going, Okay,

that's I guess that's what's happening in our league now. Yeah, all right, real quick, we didn't answer the question. I was gonna say, no, that's where I was going. I was gonna say, give me up date on Washington. What are we hearing about him? Um? I think the Cowboys are in no hurry there and I don't know where he is as far as health wise, I was told

it could still be a couple more weeks. I don't know if it's because that's what the injury is or they just don't really need it, because initially it was going to be around this time. It would have been around this time. Knock on wood. One of these receivers comes out with the risk injury. It's like, you know, Washington's ready to play like Washington week, just like you know, so we'll see. I bet you he's a little bit further along. But you know that's what happens with the rules.

The rules are. You just want to injury reserve and we'll start his twenty one day window when we want to start it. Right, all the receiver are doing things, and you know they're all playing, whether it's you know, they're playing special teams, even Semi Phihoko, guys like that. Everybody did stressing Washington doesn't do that for you. True. All right, let's move on to the next question. Anthony Villeneuava says, what's one area you think the passing game

can get better with just one area? If you had to pinpoint one area we want the passing game to be better, what would you want to I wish they threw better screens. I wish they threw better screens, whether it's tight end screens. I mean, I'm watching everybody in the league the last couple of weeks I've watched guys like Tyler Higbee and I'm watching you know, Dallas god Or and these guys, and I'm watching teams leak backs out and all of a sudden, it's just a devastating play.

This team can't get out of its own way when it comes to throwing a screen. They can't get the guys out about the offensive line not being mobile enough to get out there, or I don't know, if it's coronation. I mean, they've got guys that can actually move. They do. They've got guys that are athletic enough to get out in space and make things happen. They don't get any blocks on the outside. You know, that gets all buddled up at times, but you know, or the run people.

It's just it's so frustrating to watch teams around the league be able to use and this one, this team you're about to play, they will screen you to death. And because they know it's an easy throw for their quarterback. That's the kinds of things that could help Cooper rush. You know, just a little simple screen that could go for twenty six yards. That's a big help my thing, And I've said it for fifteen years. I've asked to get the player on the roster, and now he's on

the roster and he's not any particle player. I just I just think you're you're using a You're wasting a dynamic player in turpid. I don't you don't have to give him the football, you don't. I mean, maybe once in a while, but use him on a screen on a reverse even if he doesn't get it. Just give it to him one time around the corner. See what happens if he gets five or six yards. But you could fake it to him three more times the rest of the game. And I just think they're not using that.

You don't trust them as a as a blocker, whether that's fine, but he can have a role that can scare the crap out of some teams on the back end. And I'm kind of surprised they haven't done more of that with a backup quarterback in games or you can't

really get your offense going. You would think in those kind of situations, that's where you think you see teams doing more wildcat or reverses or things that just kind of force a defense to respect different things, because you know you need to give your quarterback a little help and basically the only hope they're given him. As you say, Brian's really giving max protect They'll Max protecting let him

throw a ball, but that's all they're doing. Other than that, they're just like, hey, we're okay if we do three and out, like we're just gonna pump the ball and trust our defense. You know. Yeah, the times and I'm surprised by that too. The times that he gets he does get on the field, they don't do anything with him. It's like, okay, why is he even under Yeah, and even then there are times he doesn't do anything and you're like, okay, then what are you trying to prove here?

Or like put on tape that's gonna scare anybody because you're not. Um, I'm on that with Brian with the screen. I feel like a couple of years ago they were pretty good at that. There really sixteen how many times like the Zeke then Zeke would they faked the block and he just kind of slip out and they got Lineman in front, you know, whether that was Doug Free or Tyrann Smith whoever, or Frederick you know, get somebody.

They it's just like it's it's so disjointed and bumping into each other and no, no, you know, no sell at all. So yeah, I mean to me that that's the simple thing because throwing the ball down the field and all that, yeah, that can add prove. But man, just give me something, give me a simple little throw from my quarterback that just devastates defense is when it works. And speaking of selling, I think one of the things

is the fake. Before I would be fool every time and that God Burd's eye view up here and I would have like, oh, oh, the balls over here. I don't think they're good at that anymore, and they just and that's some small part, but I think it does play a big role in the game if they need to improve that aspect of things, just faking it better. Yeah, all right, appreciate you guys. Jones back tomorrow. We're gonna

wrap this thing up for you. That's it. We're gonna wrap this thing up for you and let you guys know what thing's gonna happen this Sunday night, Cowboys versus Eagles. So then for Nick Eaman, Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagles and this has been the break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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