Cowboys Break: Does Dak Need Preseason?

We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Got Nate, got Dave Hellman and Nick Eatman with me. We got a lot of things we're gonna talk about today. We'll talk about the Cowboys night practice from Monday night and guess observations from these guys and some things that they may have seen and heard during that night. We'll also talk about the Cowboys first cut

they get down to eighty five players. We'll talk about some of the players that are no longer on the team, and a couple of interesting cuts around the league that I want to get some opinions from these guys on whether they think the Cowboys should maybe take a look. We'll maybe get around of I get around. I've got a couple of players. I want to throw up these guys to see what their thoughts are on them, and then we're gonna hear from you guys if you want

to call us. The numbers eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven again it is eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven, And we'll take some calls in the latter half of the show. How's everybody doing it? Awesome, Derek, let's freaking go awesome, get it going, Dave, let's start with you. Actually, Mike McCarthy had his daily press conference. What do you have

to say? I probably wouldn't look for Dak Prescott on Saturday night if I were you, And I mean, that's a pretty logical conclusion, but I appreciate Mike kind of just saying it. I'm saying, you know, probably unlikely that a guy who hasn't practiced fully since July twenty eight won't play the quarterback. You know, just now ramping up is throwing so uh, you know, sorry, everybody, but I think that the next time we see Dak in a game is going to be against Tampa in front of

the whole world. So okay, Dave, I know you're not worried about that, because we know your take on preseason. I would I like my of course, I want everybody to stay healthy, But like I understand why that is concerning for somebody that your first reps in almost a year, you know eleven months, are going to be a regular season opener against the team that just won the Super Bowl and has everybody back. Yeah, that should be concerning.

Is it concerning for Unick? Yeah? Yeah, but it would be concerning if he went out and played like that. You know, this is one of those things, and I've said this before, doesn't start with Dak. It starts with the offensive line. Are they all gonna play because it's tiring out there? I mean, I'm not putting I'm not putting Dak out there if the whole line isn't there. So I'm gonna start there and see and I'm not sure if that you know who's all gonna be playing there?

But you know, you can say this rest versus rust, is a handful of snaps going to really help him that much? Was it worth the risk? Because then he's gonna sit it out for two and a half more weeks. So if I'm just not playing him, I will say, which they shouldn't play him if he's not ready, that's fine, I will say. It's not rust for me. That bothers me. But I do I believe in the element of you know, you probably want to get hit and get up and

be like, Okay, I'm all right. I got leveled by an NFL defensive lineman and I'm still healthy and my ankle's not broken. I think there's a mental component to that. I would have preferred for him, And he's talked about it, Dak, like his first press conference of camp, he was like, I want to get out there and take a hit and just be back in the groove of playing football, play to play, And he's not gonna get to do that now until the season opener. I wish he could

have gotten that out of the way. But as far as rust, I don't really worry about that. You know, this brings up a little bit of a bigger topic and you some nickel what that is rust? I mean? But I mean, but everything you just said, I don't

think of that as rust. I think it's just what is it that I mean, like it seems like it's kind of the same thing everything you wanted him to kind of get it's to probably rust to me implies that like his timing with his receivers is off, and he just you know, they're not on the same page. Like I don't don't worry about it, or like, you know, the way that he's reading what the defense is doing because he hasn't done it in so long. I don't

worry about that. I just think, you know, it's like, uh, it's like getting into a swimming pool, just acclimating to the you know, the temperature of the water. I don't know, I don't think of that as rust. Maybe it is either way. I mean, I think we're kind of saying the same thing. You just want him to kind of you don't want the first time to get back in it going up against the buck, but that that is the way it's going to be, and it's everything's a risk reward, I mean, is it is it worth it?

You know? Romo wanted that in twenty sixteen. Romo remember remember how much he had missed in twenty fifteen. He needed those plays until his back got crunched over in Seattle, and then that changed the franchise, maybe for the better. And you know, because Dak came in and Zeke and that whole year was was what it was. But I mean it's the same concept it was. Romo needed a

few snaps, but he doesn't know how. He didn't know how to just not play the game right, you know, not to play that preseason game and does Dak is dad gonna take off? I'll never forget fourth preseason game against Houston one year it was like ninety three, ninety four or playing I think in the in the Astrodome or the Alamodome, and he flipped over I think it

was he flipped over the top for a touchdown. It had to be in ninety two or ninety three because Jimmy was the coaching He was touchdown and he flipped over the top. Troy Atman fourth preseason, fourth preseason game and he and he comes over and everyone's congratulating him except Jimmy. He was like, you're an idiot, you're stupid. You might have thrown us some other words in there, like what are you doing? And he's like playing football,

you know, but that's what it is. So if Dak's gonna be that way, other than now, let's go Sunflower Seeds. I do think this brings up a little bit of a bigger topic though, when you Mike McCarthy talked about the fact the third preseason game, which will be the fourth preseason game for the Cowboys because they had a Hall of Fame game, he said that game is going to be for the guys trying to make the team. I heard this morning when I was on my drive in.

They were talking about the Giants, and it made me think about the juxtaposition. They actually are looking at the third preseason game as their address rehearsal. They're thinking of it as that's our ramp up to the season. So we'll probably start our starters and have them play a quarter or two so that they work into that following because you do have that weekend between the final preseason game in the beginning of the season. They're thinking that's

more of a ramp up. Which do you think could be a better strategy for a team, Well, for this team the way they're doing it. Because we've got to remember, the Giants don't play Thursday night like the Cowboys do. The Giants can do that and they still get fifteen to sixteen days before they play their next game, the cow And I'm not saying it's it's just a short turnaround,

but it's it's ten days, you know. I think the Cowboys are the only Sunday preseason game on August twenty ninth because of the NFL network, you know, that just it just doesn't seem right. And there's no reason to complain about it and all that, but it's just they are the last preseason game, and they are the first season game too, and they were the first one, right you know. And it's and that's what this this star right here that I'm pointing to, that's what this star

is all about. That's that's what Jason Garrett says. It comes with a dinner. But it's it's it's it's different. It's got to be different for other teams because McCarthy's trying to get them ready for the September ninth game. So that's why probably why he's doing it this way this year. Yeah, that's a that's a good question, and I don't have a great answer to it. I'll just say, if you're going to do that, I hope you make

sure the other team is planning on doing that. The same way, because if the Giants are sending their starters out against somebody who's treating it like you know, friends, roster guys, that's stupid. I would never do that. Like what last night's Hard Knocks episode was a great example. Why if you watched it, a phenomenal story about Azour Kamara, but you know he's back in the depth chart. He's

trying to make things happen. And he clipped Garrett Gilbert like twice try you know, trying to make a play, not trying to make the team, not knowing the ins and outs of practice, not necessarily worried about the long term. You know, he's worried about making the team and yell out and they're like, don't touch the quarterback, my guy. And you got a team full of guys like that playing a lot of times. In the finale game, it's it's a messy game. You've watched them, You've watched plenty

of them. It's awful, it's terrible. So I just I wouldn't want to send the guys I'm counting on to win me games out against guys like that. Yeah, And also to clarify that, like obviously it's a game so those guys, you know, you're going to go full tilt. But just like in practice where Kamar Win a little too much and hit, you know, hit Gilbert on the arm, in a game, he might go too far and just and have a penalty like roughing the passer penalty or

something like that. Even though you're allowed to hit and tackle and do everything, but you don't want that. You don't want a guy's agenda to try to make the team going up, you know, because he's gonna been the rules and he's gonna do whatever he you know, it takes for him to be noticed. So yeah, and I

do think the coaches do talk about it. I do think Cowboys and Jaguars have talked about it because I believe at one point Jacksonville was supposed to be the dress rehearsal and it may it just have been like what is Jacksonville trying to do? What Cowboys want to do? Injury wise? So I think I think somebody asked me this question, is it what their plan is? And I think it's got to be a year to year thing. I would imagine next year could be totally different. On

three preseason games. You know, we're also an uncharted territory, right, this first time that you're gonna have that, teams are going to have other than Cowboys and Steelers are gonna have three preseason games, and this first time everybody's gonna

have seventeen regular season games. So I also wonder the more regular season games they add to this, how much does Week one really And I know every game matters, but I wonder how much, you know, getting off to that hot start really matters if you know it can the month of September, those first two to three games, can those big games where you do kind of work your starters into a little bit more of a ladder rather than having to figure that out in the preseason

because you've got seventeen games or if it goes at eighteen or whatever the case might be. Right, I think that's yeah. I think that's a byproduct of the way the league is right now, which I mean I'm in favor of it's a more health conscious, player friendly league, but just in general, I think for a few years now, like september's kind of ugly. While these teams get there, I mean, you're not you used to practice twice a day and like leave your starters in for a lot

of your preseason games. Now you don't. I mean, you know, so if this is the dress rehearsal on Saturday, like Amari Cooper is going to go into the season probably with ten reps under his belt, Dac will have none, like Tank will have none. Yeah, and so yeah, I think that's the new norm, is playing your way into game shape over the course of the first five or six weeks. Yeah. I think the best way to say it, That's what Dave said is it's a byproduct. Is it ideal?

And you're never gonna get a scout player to say, well, we got a lot of these games. You know. This isn't like load management type stuff like the NBA, but it is what it is. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna just say, well, you know, we don't have the other options. So we're not one hundred percent ready than

it is what it is. We hope to win these games, but we we all think that we're gonna be in better, you know, in tune with the team in October than we will be in September, just because of the way the NFLPA and the NFL structured it. All. Right, let's jump into Cowboys Night. Cowboys have their annual event last Monday Night, too real quickly that when that spiraled. But so Amari Cooper is expected to play Saturday. Just anybody that was curious. And it sounds like there's going to

be a new kicker punter in camp as well. I think Hunter Nice Wanders kicker or punter or boat kicker punter. He's gonna yeah, one guy, Hunter Nice Wander, same thing. Uh, he's apparently banged up, So look for them to sign a guy by the name of Lirium Hodja who he's Canadian. He's been in the CFL for a long time. Are you guys worried about the kicking position? I mean, the

kicker punter like both. I'm and maybe it's just me, but the fact that the kicker has been hurt throughout all this time, it does worry me a little bit, just because of his age and because you know, a couple of years ago he was injured and he didn't have a great season, And I'm just a little bit worried, are you guys at all? I don't think those are the same thing. He had a groin that year that lingered with him all year, and this year. He had back surgery months ago, and he was he was kicking

in Arizona. He kicked for like a half hour and he made him all. I was like, okay, you look fine at me. If I was the fifty third guy on the roster, I'd be worried about it, you know. I mean, no one knows who that is, but it might have to always just yeah, because the thing about it is is that you get to Tuesday of the game.

When I'll say Tuesday, it's a Thursday game. But I mean if you get to the to the week of the game, you know, four or five, six days before the Tampa Bay game and zero lions, not one hundred percent, then you're gonna you're gonna end up getting You're gonna get somebody else, and you're gonna go to the waiver wire and you're gonna get a who do we have? Two years ago, it made every kick I forgot his name, no, no,

after that, everybody in the league, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've been in every every place in the league and you get still out there somebody, well you're probably I think he's he's somewhere. Well, mean, you get a guy like that, and and you know, they don't have to learn offense or anything. They come in and they kick. But the problem is you're gonna you're gonna have to cut a player, you know, on your team just to get him in the roster on the roster. So I'm not one hundred

percent worried about it. He's not on a team. I thought he was. I thought somebody had mentioned he was a free agent somebody like that. They'll do a tryout, bring him back, kai come back. All right, let's jump in. I do want to talk about the Cowboys night. I want to get some observations from you guys. Let's start with a Mark Cooper Dave. You just mentioned he's going to be expect it to play this week. Uh, he did return to practice on Monday. What did you guys

see from him? How much was he used? I saw a lot more than I expected to from a guy who hadn't done anything like you know typically that's a very slow process. That Marcus Lawrence did individuals for fifteen minutes and then ran back to get treatment a mari state. He went through individuals. I actually asked him this. I was like, you know, what was their plan for you? Because I wasn't expecting you to see team, and he was like, oh, it was up to me, which I didn't.

I feel like it's not usually that, Like Dak Prescott's a perfect example, Like they tell you what they want you to do. But a Mari said he went through individuals and was like, I feel good. I want to do some team. So he did, and he looked like a Mari like, I don't know, there's nothing, there's nothing super flashy about his game, but like he caught a slant over the middle and you know you can kind

of tell even though they're not tackling that. I was like, oh, that would have gone for sixty yards, like you can just tell. And yeah, so you know he had one, you know, nice catch and run and I think he got five reps and then he was like, Okay, now I'm done. So he's going to do a little bit more today with an on playing you know, ten or so snaps against Houston, so all systems go cook. I

mean he Johnny on the spot for an interception there perfectly. Yeah. Now, now the best part about it was, I mean the ball didn't just float up for no reason. I mean Nashan Wright did a nice job there and at the goal line and tip it up. But that's the kind of you want your safety to be in position to

make plays. And I thought he did a nice job there. Um, he's you know, he said something interesting in his press conference though, yesterday, and he said that, you know, he talked about him and because he they both you know, they're what are they the Achilles Boys or whatever? You know,

they're going through the same injury. He said, we're pretty much the same player, which sounds good until then you're like, okay, can the same player with the same injury and the same body type sort of be you know, both have roles, both veterans, they're both veterans now the young guy you're developing. You know, they're both guys that probably aren't going to have a huge special teams workload. Yeah, Malik Hooker made it clear he hasn't done anything on special teams ever.

You know, So I just wonder if both those I mean, I think you keep them both. I'm not saying you don't. I just wonder can they be I've been I've been wondering that since the day Hooker got here. I'm just like, this feels redundant and Yeah, Like, I'm not trying to cut either one of them either, But when you talk about roster building, like they do the same job, they are this you know they're the same type of player

they're not. You probably don't want them playing a ton of strong They're not gonna play a ton of special teams. So are these two guys you think we may get into the season and the Cowboys could maybe use them interchangeably, rotate them. I mean, like you don't typically see safety's rotating in and out of the lineup, but do you

think that might be the case. Well, I mean, like what he's saying, though, what we're both saying is that it's gonna hurt the roster somehow, because is yes, do you want those two guys over Darren Thompson, Sure, but Darian Thompson's going to help you on special teams. Your backup safety there is going to have to do something, and neither one of those two guys can do it, which I think what will end up happening is is

you're starting strong safety is going to do it. Donovan Wilson will be a starting safety that will also play special teams. Yeah that sounds bad, right, I think you could do that. They will never say this yet, but mcquamo is not getting cut right. If that's how we say his name, don't you just you think that's just fore gone. He's on. I do I think they. I think they have something here with him. A cornerback who plays safety. He's a coverage He's a coverage coverage safety.

I'm all in favor of that. But I mean, now we're now we got problems in terms of math because you got Hooker, you got again these two free safeties that don't do much of else. Donovan three Darian Thompson is one of John Fossil's guys, not saying that definitely guarantees him a job, but something to consider. And now Mukuamu gives you five. And that's on top of a cornerback situation where I guess Reggie Robinson going to i R yesterday helps with that. But you still probably want

to keep six corners. Well, don't you think part of the issue here is that, I mean, you guys just talked about Casey and and Hooker being a same player. They're also both older. Are you gonna let a younger guy who you think could develop in mukuamu go for the purposes of having these older guys that may only be here a year or two. There you go, yeah, I mean yeah. Part of the appeal of a rookie is that they're on a four year deal. I get that.

A cheap four year deal. I don't know. I don't have an answer although which the money that the money that Kazy and Hooker have been given as negligible. But but they're short term guys. I would think, like, I don't think of them as futures for I think I'm a short term guys. Fossil is going to get two of the three when it comes to defensive backs that are special teams guys. I don't think he's gonna get

all of them, you know. I think he'll get Thompson or Kennedy, which is really turning into more than just a special teams guy and a Goodwin and he who he called the Ace. So I made that joke the other day, and I get it. This special teams is important and it's something you got to consider and putting a fifty three together. But if I were them, if I were McCarthy and will and Steven Jones, I'd be like you're getting Goodwin. So that's that's your guy already.

I mean, we'll give you We'll give you Darian if you want him, or we'll give you Louke Gifford. You're getting Dorance Armstrong, who you love as well. Like figure the rest of it out. That's what we draft. We drafted eleven guys like Jabril Cox can do whatever it is that you're convinced somebody else like Darren. You know, I'm not trying to fire darry and Thompson, but surely somebody can do his job and be more versatile. Yeah.

I don't think dari and Thompson gets a job here as a backup just because he can play special teams because they are better special teams players that are going to be like your ace, right, gonna find out because Rich Besacchi used to get whatever the hell he wanted, Like there were seven of those guys on the team when he was here, and it was like we used to talk about it on this show. We were like,

how many of these guys do you need? Like and I would I would rather have Mali Cooker even if he's you know, even if he's not doing anything, just you know what I mean then than that, in my opinion, until until Week one they have a return for a touchdown against the Cowboys, and then it's kind of like, yeah, maybe maybe we need some of those guys. Bet they're not. They're not going to lose to the Bucks because somebody didn't make a special team's tackle. Watch Yeah, no, quote

me on, see how it goes. Hold on that clip. All right, let's take our first break. We come back, we're gonna talk about the eighty five cut Cowboys get down eighty five with the rest of the league. There's some guys that got cut from the Cowboys, but also a couple of guys that got cut from some other teams that I want to throw out and get some opinions on. We'll talk about that when we come right back.

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the Star and real quick. We gotta get to the phone lines because they say we got a call from out of the country, and that costs a lot of money. So let's go straight to the phone lines. We got a call from someone name I think it's Ambar. Well you know it's chop for me. I got money, Hey, you have it? Wait, hold on, hold on. You just had a baby. There's no such thing as having money ever. Again, that baby's gonna take all of your money. Well, you

gotta have a better mentality than that. You gotta think rich, abundance everywhere. Welcome to the show, Amber Garcia. We miss you. How's everything going? Good? Good, tired, but good and happy? Um, honestly, just calling for one thing for you, guys. It is a very simple question, oh very general. Are we actually but because you know I'm not it's hard for me to keep up with what's going on right now and kind of taking care of a baby at the same time.

But I just want to know are we actually getting better or not? And when we when I get back to work, am I walking into excitement and happiness or am I walking into disappointment and one of those seasons again? So that's what I want to know from you, guys, And just as usual, just wants us to predict the future. Some things don't change. Simple, Well, when when is that going to start? Though? Like? What is it? Yeah? When are you when? When? When do you think we'll see you?

Is it? Is it right after the Bucks game? Because I don't know about that one. If that's what you start, i'd say probably not made October. Oh, yeah, okay, made October. Will things be good? Five and one? Oh, I'm completely I'm completely talking out of my butter. You know, I was gonna say, you know, if Davis saying, then wow,

we'll see Yeah. I think. I think the schedule, we think and you never know what teams are gonna be, but we think the schedule is gonna be favorable for them to compete, maybe win these games, and it gets a little tougher later on. We think, age it'll be happy and positive just because you're back, regardless of what the Cowboys are doing. Well, I don't know about that. I heard you guys. I heard you guys um talking. I turned on the show right when you guys were

talking about easy in players. I didn't hear exactly who you were talking about specifically, but I'm like, man, who do we gotta easy into this season? I mean, is that gonna be slowing down the Cowboys is gonna be one of those times again where we're like, oh, here's a slow start, but then kind of get going later down the season. But then hey, it's kind of too late actually, Like never mind. I want to have a better idea of what I'm going back to work too,

what I'm getting into this year with the Cowboys. Well, we know it won't be eight and eight season. Yeah, we know that could be eight, eight and one, It could be eight and nine and nine and eight. I don't know. I think it's gonna be Maybe I say it's gonna be better than that. But optimism just dripping from that show right now. The one thing, the one thing I think I know that hasn't thrown a pass. However, the one thing I think I know is that the

defense won't be worse. So I think if that gives you any hope, I don't think they'll be worse than they were last year. So there's something that's been pretty good these two I don't think they'll be worse. I think there'll be a better defense, and so maybe that's a reason for optimism. We'll see, Yeah, you're you're gonna like dan Quinn a g. He's just he's got some he's got some stuff to him. He's the smoothest cusser

Yeah ever ever heard. He just he just throws in and you're looking around, You're like, it's kind of like Will Ferrell in that old old school movie at the wedding, and he's like, did he just cuss that? He just says something like yeah he does. He doesn't. He's awesome right past not it's not with like you didn't say it with omph. He just kind of says it before you know. It's just rolled off the tongue. I love it. Yeah,

he saw him. But on the show Joseph, I saw him on the when I was watching Hard Knocks, I saw him watching the game from upstairs on the booth. Do you guys think that's actually gonna be beneficial or do you think it's it's better for him to be on the ground on the field with the players. I I, you know, I personally think it's better for coordinators to be up top um to see. But they it's hard to get a coach that wants he wants to get in the mix there, He wants to be down there,

wants to talk to the players. We have seen on hard knocks that he'll he'll get him on the phone and he'll communicate with him. But you know, it is one of those things. And I have friends that coach in the high school ranks and then that they say, yeah, you see a lot more up there. We know that you see better. But they want to be able to kind of talk to the players, motivate and do all that. But if they're willing to take a step back, like it sounds like he is, he'll probably see more and

be a better coach from up top. You do the things that make you worth your paycheck from the booth. In my opinion, I don't even I don't know jack about football compared to Dan Quinn, but he like, we watched these Frisco practices in the booth as opposed to the sideline. It's like watching a completely different sport. You're like, oh, okay, here's the rotations, what the safety is doing like and

now put real coaching football knowledge into that. Get leon Lett to smack guys on the ass and motivate them like anybody can do that. That's I always I watched the sidelines during games and I'm like half these guys are just talking to hear themselves talk honestly, Like, give me the guy that's in the booth making the calls and the adjustments. That's what's important. And if something's really that important to talk about and you get them on

the phone. The Hall of Fame game, it was that the last night's Knox or the night before or the first episode, because we've seen him in the yeah no, what she was saying, um that you saw him in in the first episode when he was talking to yeah, Mike Carson. Then that's what it led me to think. I'm like, okay, communication wise, I mean, are you gonna be trying to get guys on the phone head real quick, jump on the phone, or obviously you talk to other

coaches to transmit the message. But I thought it was kind of interesting and he led me to wonder, like, Okay, which way is actually better because he has to disadvantages and advantages at the same time, but which one kind of outweighs the other? You know. Yeah, we had a big debate on on There was people like in our office this morning, some people did not like last night's episode of Hard Knocks, and some people thought it was way better than the first one. It was. It was

Donald Dave and I don't agree with that. I thought last night's was not as not the best one. Did you see that one yet? No? I haven't seen it. Yeah, i'll see you today. I have it on the TV. Yeah, you go, better stuff to do right real quick though, Before you go, I have to let everybody know and and publicly congratulate you on another Emmy win, like this girl's just racking up Emmy hardware. And this time it was for It was for a documentary, which you hadn't

done one for us before. But you did a phenomenal job on on that story on Connor Williams and uh, and you were recognized by your peers winning an Emmy. I'm very very proud of you. Hammer, Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Yep, that was a that was a good one. Yeah, for sure. And you know I was

gonna see Connor here today. I was probably mentioned it to him, but no one, Connor, he'll be like cool, right, Yeah, we do need to mention that to let him know because he put in a lot of time with you to get that done too, So make sure he knows it was Emmy win. Yea, his family is gonna be happy. I haven't told him yet, but his family is gonna probably throw a party for him or something. Yeah, you got a great family, fun family, all right, and we're gonna let you go get back to the little man.

But but it's good to hear from you. And don't be a stranger. If you hear something on the air, if Dave says something or Nick says something, you need to smack him around, then give us a call and jump in smack him around. Well, thank you guys for your time today and allowing me to kind a chit chat with you a little bit. All right, it's been a while, We miss you. We'll see you later. Hurry back. Bye bye, allright, bye bye, all right, if by the way,

we can take other calls as well. Eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven is the number real quick, though, Let's get to the cuts, cowboys. Get down to eighty five. Who got cut? And uh? And then let everybody know kind of when does the next cut? How does this all work? From the standpoint of the cuts, getting down to the final roster Tuesday, they cut to eighty five yesterday and next Tuesday, cuts eighty. The next Tuesday, fifty three. Here we go. So no longer, and Dave,

We'll appreciate this more it anybody else. No longer are we cutting down the roster in the middle of LSU season opener on Labor Day weekend, the worst day of the year. It's the best day of the year slash year. Well, you just hate that. It's it's it's Christmas for anybody that likes college football, and they spend the whole time sort of glancing at your phone, working on stories, not

feeling relaxed. So I'll be honest, I feel for you guys every year on that day because inevitably I'll be somewhere with my family, will be somewhere and we're doing something and I'll be just checking my phone, like and I'm seeing it. But you guys are having to do the work, and so every year I feel for you. I'm like, man, this sucks. Not this year sucks. Let's go. I gust thirty first is when they cut the fifty three, but they cut five yesterday, or basically, it's just roster reduction.

You don't have to necessarily cut, you just get them off the roster. And they only actually cut like two guys, guys Kyon Brown and Vernon Eagles. Um, yeah, Texas, he just didn't pretty much did what he did at Texas. Yeah, he wasn't like like a star star. And honestly, Texas when he came, when he came into Exis, he was like there was a lot of attention on him, like he was a recruit that they really wanted, and so everybody had really high expectations for him, and he just

never quite got there. He'd have a game here or there where it was pretty good, but most of the time he was just kind of like you you'd get through a game, you'd be like, did he did he do anything? Do you have a catch? It's that kind of thing where it just wasn't consistent. I'm not trying to take shots, but I feel like that's that's been a thing like getting the talent to Austin has not been the problem recently. I agree. I agree, And so that's always the question of coaching that want to get

into that. Never he never had a shot here. And I'll tell you why. We have a guy, a camera operator videographer Alex Lily does a lot down there, shot a lot of training Camp and he's a big UT fan. Okay, didn't know that, Oh yeah, big ut fan. He just went up with notching my book, so okay, and he was shooting, you know, one of the players and he made it a catch and for a touchdown and he kind of yelled out. He's like, go Eagles, and I'm like, yeah,

see Camp. So he's yeah, like I'll see first of all cheering and and you know, shooting at the same time. It is kind of weird, but go Eagles is really not something that you know, is said around here. So yeah, that's one you definitely want to stay away. He had an uphill battle, you know, Eagles with the Cowboys was gonna be a tough one. Anyway. I get enough random tweets from people like Eagleton. Really, I'm like, seriously, even

never is that what we're doing? But no, yeah, it's Eagles is just not a It's not a word people Cowboys fans like to say or here or even read. I guess all right, let's jump in. Let's talk a little bit more about a couple of guys around the league that got cut. There were two names that jumped out. Hang. I mean, all right, we're burying the lead here. We just did five minutes on Brendan Eagles, and we're not going to talk about the fourth round cornerback being put

down for the year as a twelve. But he wasn't he Okay, let me ask you, Reggie Robinson, if Reggie Robinson were not hurt, is Reggie Robinson making this team? No? Okay? So that he just got bad here? That ain't got an extra year. So that's a good thing, right, It's it's newsworthy. Fourth round, fourth round picks make the team here, so it is it's interesting to think he couldn't get on the field last year, he wasn't doing enough to make the team this year, and you know, it's not

the end of the world. It is just curious though this team is usually better at drafting than that or or something. Is the guy not a fit? Were they wrong about him? I don't know. Well, here's the Fortunately, we don't have to answer that right now because he'll be back next year. That's when you go to ir At during training camp, you're like, you can't come back, but you retain Reggie's right, So, I mean, he'll be here next year. But that's an inauspicious start to his career.

But you got it, I said, who else did that? Yeah? Down the guys out for the year right now? You put him an R right now, Like he said, out for the year. No, let's go back to the ridge. But I think you got a factor in the fact that there are that the Cowboys came back this year. They got him in the fourth round of last year. But they came back this year and got a second and third round cornerbacks, right, So so those are higher

picks than him, and they played like it. So that's his point if you, I mean, if they come back next year and get a first round corner in a second round corner, what is that going to show you about what they think of Nashan right or Kelvin Joseph. I get that. But also I think that this is where you start getting that rub between coaching and scouting because you're talking about a fourth round pick that spent

most of his rookie year playing safety. So did he get a fair chance to really be able to develop and compete at cornerback? Like? Those are the questions that you have to ask when you start saying hey, before you would just say that they just didn't do a good job with from the standpoint of drafting, Okay, I mean every like fourth round picks regularly become meaningful contributors

to this team in my time working here. And Reggie's going to be going into year three without and I'm really not blaming him, Honestly, I haven't talked to him. I've never talked to Reggie Robinson thanks to COVID, But if I were him, I'd probably be pretty pissed about the way my career has shaken out to this point. I'm not I'm not dogging him. I just it's weird and interesting. This is not the trajectory that we see for fourth round picks. We're very We're very excited about

Jabriel Cox. Anthony Hitchins is the name that I bring up all the time. Derek Prescott, like your fourth round picks. If you're a fourth round pick, you're probably Dorin's armstrong, not setting the world on fire, but a quality member this roster. Dalton Schultz, if you're drafted in the fourth round, I have a decent amount of expectations for you, and Reggie Robinson is high up on the list of guys that just haven't hit that mark yet. Charles Tapper is

another one that comes to mind. I mean, it does happen. I still think it's worth noting. Okay, that's all. And Dooley noted, I think that's a good point. All Right, what we're gonna do is we're gonna take our final Oh no, actually before we take our break. I did want to real quickly get your opinions because I got

some messages on this. Just Rosen, quarterback he was with the San Francisco forty nine ers, was cut, just was waived yesterday because the Cowboys have had issues at backup quarterback. Lots of question mark there. Do you think that's one that maybe the Cowboys should just take a look at. And I say this as someone I really I loved Josh Rosen. I I loved his cockiness. I think he had a very pro ready type of game in that draft. Like I'm looking back at it, like I would have

drafted Josh Rosen before Josh Allen for sure. Wow, Josh, I mean Josh Allen was pure product projection based on absurd you know, athleticism, which it looks like it's working out. You're gonna be wrong about guys if you talk about the draft long fit matters too, right, Yeah, I think fit matters, and maybe he got the right fitt and Rosen hasn't. The point Well, the point is I liked Rosen a lot, but it's been four teams by now, and I know, you know, he's he's been in a

different system all this time. I get that he's done all these different things. He hasn't had a chance to get comfortable. But I don't know, if you're that good at some point, shouldn't your talent shine through. I mean, he got to work with Tom Brady for a year, he got to start games for the Dolphins. I know they didn't have a lot of talent around him, but you should have seen something that made somebody kind of sit up and say, okay. And Garrett's been here for

a year, He's went through the whole offseason. It's also Rosen will be back right where he's always been if he comes here just learning a new thing on the fly, trying to make it work. And I don't, you know, I don't I doubt he can. I think Garret Gilbert is probably better than him right now. And that's kind

of what I was pointing out. Um, I guess in the column that I wrote that we mentioned is that is that, yeah, you're gonna have names that you that you like or that that you've heard of or were drafted better, but like, you know, there's a reason why they're available, and are they gonna come in and and be you know, better than what you've got and understand, you know, who understand the offense enough that if something were to happen to that this guy's gonna be ready.

This guy's gonna be you know, he's not gonna be as ready as as Garrett Gilbert. So you have to factor that part into it as well. Like whoever he's gonna have got to have way more talent, got to have more upside, and gotta be ready to play. That's just very rare to find that right now. Now, he had some pretty decent guys ahead of him, Like you understand why he got cut in San Francisco because all but all those guys Garoppolo, the guy they drafted, there's

a CJ. Bethard. Yeah he's been around, you know, Yeah, he's been a he now understands the system obviously a lot more too, So you knew that was probably going to happen. But at this point, I think it's it's gonna take it's gonna take a guy who has started in won significant games in the league to come available for that for me to think that they would make a move, like, you know, people talk about Chicago because

it's the most obvious one. I mean, there's a good chance that a guy with some serious skins on the wall will be available at some point, whether you know, I guess theoretically it could even be Dalton, like if Fields just keeps kicking ass. I mean, I don't pay attention to what the Bears are doing, but you know, I think it would have to be a guy like that, not Josh Rosen. All Right, we're gonna take our five break and we come back. We got some more calls

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Tony from Atlanta. Tony, what up? Hey, what's going on? Fellow? Tell y'all I'm good. I'm great. Man good to hear y'all. Hey. Um, two quick questions. One, is the with the schedule being out in the home and road games and everything announced, do we already know it hasn't been announced? What the uniforms are gonna be? Blue? White? You know that type thing, you know, the bad luck blues and all that. That's

my first question. Second question, with all the talk about d Lamb and how great his camp has been, and you know, Cooper missing all this time, and people talking about Lamb's ascension, I want to just kind of ask you all, get you all thoughts on what exactly is a number one receiver? We hear the term thrown around a lot, number one, number one, but what exactly really is a number one receiver? Is the best receiver on the team? Is just an elite receiver? What do you

guys thoughts on that? Thank you? I mean to me, it's it's the guy that you absolutely count on every week, and you know he's going to get doubled. You know that that he'll be a focal point of the defense. But he fights through that and he makes plays. He can go and make plays, you know, it doesn't he can, he can be an outside guy inside whatever. But number one receiver is the guy that that will will shine above um the amount of coveragen that he'll get and

he continues to consistently make plays. That's that's my you know, view of a number one I'll actually you kind of touched on it there, but I look at it more from when you go into every week, who is the opponent saying that's who we got to pay the most attention to? Who affects the game in that way From the standpoint of they're going to get the attention and

it creates opportunities for other guys. Now, the byproduct the reason why that happens is because, as you said, they always are making plays, So defenses have to figure out how to control them, how to manage them, how to maybe stop them. But I think it's really about who is the other team saying is their top offensive receiver weapon that we gotta take away? If whoever that is, that to me is who the number one receiver is yeah.

I mean you can get all kinds of end of the weeds with that, because like, does your number one have to be an ex receiver like a guy that's out on the boundary. I think in most cases it is, but I don't think it has to be you know, guy like Antonio Brown is famous for moving all over the place. Going back to your point, I mean it's Tyreek Hills, Kansas City's number one, Like is he the guy you have to take away? Or is it Kelsey? Like I think you could make an argument in a

way when you say that to me. I just think that means to Nick's point, like the game plan starts with taking him away, that's what any so it could be anybody. Really, let's answer the question he's really asking lam there. Number one is the number one. It's still Amari until CD has a season where he is truly It's like, I'll tell you now, I'll tell you this, I do expect that to happen this year. And I've said that on another episode that we've evaluate a lot.

A lot of people do, and it's hard to argue with them seeing what CD's done and the vast majority of it has been on the boundary by the way. I mean he's been playing outside because don't you know, but we know he can do all of that in the slot, So you add all that together. I understand the hype. But like I've said it before, I think Amari Cooper, ironically, for being a Dallas cowboy, I think he's a little bit slept on. I'm not saying he's not top five, but I think he's a lot better

than a lot of people want to give him credit for. Honestly, I don't think it has to be an either or. I don't think just because CD becomes the top person that defenses want to take away or feel like they need to take away, means Adam Maury falls off and isn't a good player anymore. I look at and I compare this to Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt. In Saint Louis, Isaac Isaac Bruce had been the guy. Tory Holt came along and became the guy. It didn't mean that Isaac

Bruce fell off. He just went into the Hall of Fame. He was still a very very good, very very productive receiver. But Tory Holt was making the plays that were like Holy crap, did he just do that? Right? And I think that's what's gonna happen here. It's a good problem to have, And that's absolutely I'm already annoyed. I'm already annoyed. We're gonna be here mondays after one of them blows up and the other one has like a pedestrian game, and everybody's for some reason mad about it. Like I'm

already annoyed. You know the reason. It's not for some reason because the money. Now, it's because they drafted a money on their fantasy football team. It's because because they're cowboy finn and they think Michael Gallup's gonna have a big gear, so they put him in the fourth round of fifth round or whatever, and he's gonna have two catches for twenty four yards and he's gonna be okay with it because maybe they won the game. But I'm just saying that'll happen. That's why when I get asked.

I got asked this morning on a show about will CD lead the team in catches, yards and touchdowns and you know, fact or fiction? And I was like, I just can't go there. I can't go there on all three because that's not the way the Cowboys want to play. Yeah, they don't want to play that way. Yeah, they want Zeke to be running for fifteen hundred yards and run out the clock. So um, I just don't. I think Amari will end up maybe getting more yards. I could

see CD leading the team and touchdowns. Yep. I think he's gonna be the best red zone threat. They've got. Garrett Gilbert. Hey, he's smart enough to they all all the backups are. If it's if it was a mojo moment or fourth and eight or whatever, you know, in practice, throw it up to CD. He'll make the play, you know.

As far as the other question, um to the uniforms the Cowboys, they have not put out their schedule, which I mean, that's ever I feel uniforms Well, no, not really, but I feel guilty because I've run into Mike McCord and Bucky a million times since camp started, and I could have asked them and just slip my mind. But it's funny because you can kind of piece some of this stuff together because other teams put theirs out. So we know Dallas will be wearing blue when they host

Denver because Denver announced that they're wearing white. So and then you know, I'm like, you know, the Giants are wearing their homes so both Giants games, the Cowboys will be in white, if that means anything to you. But as far as a as far as a full schedule of what Dallas is going to be wearing, I bet I bet you can. You can bet on the Tampa game them wearing white. Do you think? Yeah, just teams like to do that and it's gonna be hot. They want to put their team and Navy now they usually

do that when it's sunny. No, you're you're saying Tampa will be wearing white? Did I not say that Tampa? Did you just say that against Denver? That Denver's gonna Denver's wearing their whites into eighteens? So that means the Cowboys they did? They do? The Cowboys know they know exactly what they're doing, Okay, we just don't. We just don't know it. That means once they've told everybody what's going on, then Denver puts it out what they're gonna

be wearing. The Cowboys have made that I understand. I'm saying, isn't it curious that the Cowboys chose blue for home game. They typically choose white for home games, right, I'm missing something.

I don't know. It mean, they wore blue like six times a couple of years ago, and I thought it most instance it was it was because they were in road situations where they honestly, they've had a few games where they've they've worn blue, and they're not not always on Thanksgiving they dave it was eight games a few years ago. Yeah, so it happens they're slowly getting away from that a little bit. The white, Yeah, but the best uniform the course. I think that's part you are opening.

You're opening a can of worms. But I actually agree with you. The blue looks the blue actually looks the best. But but yes, he's opening. They of course corrected last year though, like they wore white like fourteen times last year they and they fixed the pants go with the white jerseys. I'm sorry, I just havecrophones pick up whispers too, you know, I'm just saying, like the pants are more bluish now. The ice blue, I don't care, looks good. It's the white uniform is iconic. Yeah, but the blue

looks really good too, and it's not bad luck. I hate I mean, LSU is the same like LSU always wears white. They wear white at home, it's their thing, and fans flipped, yeah, great colors like purple and gold. You need to wear your colors. I think our fans hate it when LSU wears purple because it's bad Juju. I'm like, no, they lost games when they wore purple because they sucked. That ever happened to me when I was wearing purple and gold. Okay, Okay, just say what

you want to say. I'm not saying anything. I'm just making a point. At it's a point, okay, point if the team. The team is good, they can blays low games in the eighties because they were blue because they went into Philly and lost. No, they weren't bad. They just they on the road. It's tougher to win on the road than at home. So they're like, man, we were eight no on white and we were we were only four and four and blue because they're on the road.

But the point is in the nineties when they were rolling, how many times they losing blue, Probably not as many. I'm just saying like, when you're a great team, it didn't really matter. It's they lost the players, they lost the Eagle. They lost the Redskins the year they won the Super Bowl, they lost in the Blue probably had something to do with playing at the vet, you know, with Reggie White, I would think probably has something more

than guessing. Doesn't look good on me. I'm like, I might be speaking out of turn, but like the sixties throwbacks that everybody loves so much that they can now bring back because of the new helmet rule next year, weren't those teams terrible like that in the sixties, Like they weren't good when they wore those, at least not as good as they became in subsequent years they get they got good like sixties sixty five, sixty six based I think Ice Bowl is sixty seven, but they were

already moving. They had already moved on to the like more gray silver helmet, right right, So people love the throwback because it looks cleanly. Look, I love it too. It's cool. Yeah, just the players, the players wearing the uniform matter, not what the uniform looks like and it

they just give me a good looking uniform. And whether you all it or lost in it, just give me good All of the Cowboys uniforms look good, like you know, I know the white doesn't match and all that, but it's this iconic like NFL films, look right, the blue looks good, the double Star looks good. Like they all look good. I don't care what they wear, they all look good. All Right, we appreciate you guys. Join us. We'll be back on Friday, and we actually got a

special guest for you guys. On Friday. We're gonna have one Darren Woodson that's gonna be I think maybe gonna be. We'll see gonna maybe gonna be joining us. We'll see how they movie about the guy. Yeah, we gotta come

out of the documentary coming out the Saturday. It's going to be really good about Darren in his life store, and so we want to get him on Friday hopefully to be able to talk a little bit about that and just get his opinions on this team, particularly a safety position, because for the first time in a long time, there are actually some people that maybe are worth talking about at the safety position. So we'll talk about talked. Hopefully we'll talk to Darren on Friday about that. Till then,

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