The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com well with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Monday, September eighteenth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, Episode number forty one. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
I'm Derek Eagleton and we're gonna talk some Cowboys football with you guys here today. We're live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. Cowboys lose yesterday in a game that was at least surprising to me in the way that they lost, because we really haven't seen them lose like that in quite a while. But they lose forty two to seventeen in Denver versus the Broncos, and we're gonna break that whole thing down for you. How's everybody doing
this morning? Awesome? I'm freaking great, freaking great, freaking awesome. We gotta love this stuff, right, Hey, that's what we do. Still my job to talk about football. Regardless of what the result was. My mom. I just talked to my mom on the phone and she said, how did How was the trip? And I was like, well, you know, the plane landed. I mean, we got that right. Yeah, that was a positive part of it. A lot of things that went wrong for the Cowboys. Yeah, they said
we're gonna break it down. I mean it's really easy moving on end result. Yes, you're absolutely right, But I think there's so many pieces to that on a level that we really haven't I mean, you alluded to that on a level that we really haven't seen very often. It was the last time you saw them get beat like that. I did. You can take your pick between twenty fifteen Carolina, twenty fourteen Philadelphia on Thanksgiving, and twenty thirteen New Orleans. I'm gonna throw one in. I still
remember that New Orleans. I'm gonna throw another one in there too. From that fifteen season. I mean, I don't think they were ever competitive against the Patriots. See I thought about that, and I disagree. I thought they were because that score was manageable at halftime. Like they fought, and they fought, they couldn't they couldn't move the ball and they I don't think the Patriots scored to really put it out of reach until maybe early in the
fourth quarter. Like it was a lopsided looking score, but if you watch that game, it wasn't terrible for most of the game. And as bad as the score was yesterday and the Cowboys were dated, the Cowboys got beat yesterday worse than the score. And I know that sounds crazy, yes, but they got beat worse than the score yesterday. I think this was the second most lopsided game I've seen them in other the twenty thirteen at the Saints in New Orleans. That's the most savage beating I've ever seen
in football period and on any level. But I don't know about that, considering that they were both professional teams. Yes, this was right up there. Though. This is number two or one A in my opinion. All right, so let's go ahead. And as I wrote in the in my column yesterday, then the Keep to Leeves touchdown was fitting because that was not a thirty five twenty four game that would have been embarrassing really for the Broncos if that's all it was. I mean, forty two to seventeen.
It was every bit that. So yeah, they had a chance to do some things, and you know, in the fourth quarter, and I thought Garrett maybe could have handled it differently there. But I mean, they got their ass kicked. And that's what it looked like, all right. Was Let's dive into the storylines of this game, and I want to start first with what I think is the most important. You guys can disagree, but the fact that they couldn't run the ball, to me was the biggest storyline of
that game. Yesterday, Ezekiel Elliott was held to eight yards on nine carries point nine average. His longest run was five yards. Obviously, we haven't seen anything like that when it comes to execue Elliott since he's been with the Cowboys. His worst game before that was against the Giants Week one of last season, where he carried the ball twenty times for fifty one yards, two point sixty yards per carry and a touchdown. What do you think went wrong yesterday?
What happened with the running game that the Execuellett could go and get could average less than one yard perry? I touched on well, I said this while the game was still finishing up. And then Vance Joseph came out and kind of and all the Broncos kind of came out and confirmed my theory, which is that this is a uniquely position team to be able to do that
to you. They have a secondary where they can put their three guys out there and cover your three receivers, man up, and then put the rest of their defense in the box and say go ahead and try to run it. You can't beat our corners. We dare you to beat our corners. And they did that, and Dak Prescott could not do it. This is about Dak and sorry, you're right though. This is about this is Hey, we're
gonna see if Dak Prescott can beat us. Now, not everybody can do what Denver did it, like you're saying with the corners, so good luck for everyone to try it, but we've seen it in the past some teams that can do it. Having said that, I'm still stunned. I mean that's I mean, that's football, one on one team like you can do if you've got the personnel to do it, load the box and worse your quarterback to beat you. I'm still blown away that they were that effective.
I mean, you know, goyboys weren't that successful running the ball against the Giants by the standards that we're used to seeing, you know. I mean they were averaging four yards to carry. Zeke's longest carry was eight to ten yards. Like, wouldn't anything amazing. I mean, we're used to seeing this team and run for one thirty one forty one, fifty one sixty, So even with the Broncos key enough to stop the run, I would have thought Zeke would at
least have fifty sixty seventy yards. I mean, that's a bad rushing day for this offense to hold him to eight. Good lord. I mean, I know a little bit of that is just on getting away from the running game because you're down. But I never thought I would see this running game have so little room to work. I mean, all credit in the world to the Broncos. That was insane. How much of that do you guys put on the
offensive line? And the reason why I asked that question, I know we heard a lot, we hear a lot, and we're hearing a lot about them loading the box. But when I went back and watched the game, most of the time, even though they might have let's say eight in the box, it was typically when the Cowboys had seven guys out there, they'd load up and they were gonna run, and so in most instances, a running back is gonna have to beat at least one guy.
And literally there were no running lanes, like there was nothing. There was really no room for Ezeicul Elliott to work. And so it to me, it begs the question. Was the offensive line just inadequate when it came to being able to move this defensive front around. Yeah, they were. I thought it was one of the worst games I've seen from Travis Frederick. I mean I thought he was
getting beat in the middle a lot. Um. Yeah, they could move it now that Denver did put more guys up front, but we've just kind of seen that before. It's not like, yeah, um, this is just about the fact that you know, as good as we think Dez and Terrence and Beasley are, they're not at leeds and they can get beat by elite corners, and um, that's pretty much what happened is that they dared Dak to beat them with these receivers and it really couldn't do it.
I mean, look at their targets again. For Daz six targets and seven he caught seven. Two of those targets went to the Broncos, you know, so one of them was a touchdown. So I mean, you know again that they try to get the ball to death and it just it doesn't work as as much as as frequent as it should. I guess when you're throwing it to
your best receiver sixteen times. I agree with everything he just said, but I guess going back to my earlier point for and I know they've got two new starters, and that's you know, that's a growing pain that we talked about all eating into this season. For all the praise and accolades that they get and the first team All pros and the money that's invested in the offensive line, I would expect better than point whatever yards per carry? What was point nine for Zeke Devils? Point nine yards
per care? I mean, if they've got ten guys in the box, you should at least be able to get a yard. You should there shouldn't be a zero starting out that statistic. I mean, And that's you know, I think about how you know, I always say I grade on a curve and Zick or Nick just grades him straight up. I mean that that's just catastrophic failure. If You're supposed to be the best line in the league, and you put in that and I don't I mean, I don't care if the Broncos were uniquely positioned to
stop it. I mean that was that was lacking. Even for a bad effort. I mean, it was that was bad. And you know what was most interesting to me when you talk about the offensive line is the fact that they were so um they were so bad when he came to run blocking. But in the passing game, they for the most part, and I think it's kind of
a tale of two halfs. If you look at the game before it got to the point where there was the Cowboys are basically an eleven personnel and throwing every play, they actually gave Dak a pretty good amount of time to be able to get the ball out. It was after that once they once the defense for the Broncos knew that they were just passing every down, then good luck with that defense trying to stop that pass rush.
But you look at that and that that's the part that seems really interesting to me, is that they did okay. And you look at the Denver defense going into the game, I think we all would have agreed you were way more worried about their ability to get after the passer didn't stop the run, and they did exactly the opposite.
I hate to pat myself on the back, but in the Blueprint video that we did on Friday, I said they calways have to start fast because if you wind up in a situation where they know you have to throw the ball, you're not going to win this game. Yeah, because then you let von Miller who really wasn't a factor in the game until the end, you know. And and he had more offside penalties than Sad And that's just that's just say, well he hadn't had a second
five games. The Marcus where used to do the same thing, you know, the same I mean, as good as the Marcus was. He got off side pony every single game. Same with Flozell Adams. He'd have false start every game because he's trying to anticipate that rush, and so you'll give up three or four off sides if you're gonna get some. Sad I didn't mean. I didn't mean the flag as a bad thing. I know as an illustration of the fact that he was coming. That's what he does.
He comes off the line. Obviously if I had a guy like that, I'm fine with it if I'll take it. Not because you're getting offside because the offensive line is terrified of what you're gonna do, and you know that. I mean, I'll take three offside flags per game for a guy that scares offensive linemen and quarterbacks like that. And he did get a false start at one of those times out of Lyle, so it kind of works
both ways. Right now, Dak ended up with he got ended up throwing for more more times than he has in any game previously. He went thirty of fifty sixty percent completion rate, two hundred and thirty eight yards, two touchdowns,
and two interceptions. It was his worst quarterback rating at sixty eight points I'm sorry, his second worst quarterback rating at sixty eight point six, only behind the second game last year versus the Giants, where he had a forty five point four And when you look at the interceptions,
which is uncharacteristic of him. He had two interceptions, but really, and you pointed out this to me, Dave after the game, if you really think about it, there were two other players he probably should have had interceptions if it weren't for the fact that Dez Bryant basically played great cornerback, as you said in a tweet, Nick, But you look at all of that and are you starting to believe is there any part of you that believes this offense is not good enough yet that without the running game,
they can put it on Dak in win ball games. I think I've always believed that. Okay, I mean, I have all the respect in the world for Dak, but he is not at a level and this offense is not yet at a level where you're gonna you're gonna be fine no matter the circumstances like and I know they came back in the playoffs, but we saw that against Green Bay. I mean, this is a team that has to control the game. You have to take it to them. You have to be the ones running downhill,
preferably playing with a lead. I don't think Dak Prescott is quite on that Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady level where no lead is insurmountable. I don't. I mean, that doesn't play well to his strengths, it doesn't play well to how you've built this offense. That's I mean, it's and it's not I don't mean it as too big of a knock on him. I mean, he's in his second year and they've designed this to be a run happy offense. When when you're based around the run, you're
not gonna probably farewell and shootouts and comebacks. It's just the way it is, and it's part of his maturing process. I don't fully agree with that just here we go always no no, no no, no no. I just don't really agree with that, just based on this specific game, just for the reason that not only did Dak play bad even when he made good throws, somebody else would play by Jason Wit and everyone else in the whole team
was playing back. Sure, and I'll Dak was not good by any stretch of the imagination, but I said it last night. He didn't. He didn't get a whole lot of help from anybody. So I have a hard time putting this on him as him just not having a good game. I think this was just a f across the board for the offense. I mean just not really any There's nobody on the offense that should come out of this feeling like, well, I played pretty good, yeah, you know at all. I mean there's fifty two guys. Well,
maybe I need to do better. Marcus Lawrence got two sad kind of a penalty that changed the whole game, you know, and I don't. I don't like that call. That's a questionable call in a questionable rule. But you know, yeah, you would. There's only Dan Bailey. Dan Bailey is the only guy that just went out and did his job. You know, I thought the first punt of the game by Chris Jones, you're in the thin air. You want to push him back. I thought it was a difference
in two weeks because Denver starts. I mean, he got a forty one yard punt that went out of bounds at the twenty four yard line, and they went and marched and scored. You would expect I know, we're kind of expecting more from him, but I think he's gonna get that ball inside the ten and that changes their drive a little bit. But for the most part, Chris Jones was fine. But I thought, you know, that play right there, it's a difference of them starting at the
ten or the twenty. But I have some opinions on Dak. I mean, I thought he didn't play well and he's I don't think he's good enough to carry the team, right now I don't think he's at that point. But when you look at it in a T T O drop from Romo, like that's your quarterback, like that, that's your guy. And I like the way he played, honestly exactly. I liked not as far as the interception. He had some he had some bad games. We were talking about the effort and what he brought as a as a
guy that's gonna keep going, keep fighting. That last play where he's scrambling from von Miller and then runs over a guy and all that he's running for his life. I mean, it can get better, and it's got to get better. But there's some things that you can really like out of what you saw out of Dak. And I think I'm the only person that's sit saying that. I don't. I don't see anyone that's with me there. I think I'm with you there. I mean, I like
the way his toughness was. And that's nothing to do with the running back and not And I don't I don't even know that play that everyone's talking about. I really didn't see. It has nothing to do with that. I liked what I saw from Dak, and I liked what he said after the game and all that, like, it's got to get better. He knows it, he knows it's on him. But I think he's the type of
guy that's gonna get it better. But are you at all concerned that this is now because well, let me back up last week, did you think he was a little bit off because there were some people who felt like he didn't play his best game last week? Are you now at all concerned that this is a second week in a roll if you believe that he didn't play his best game last week, are you now concerned that this is two weeks in a row when he
hasn't been completely on with his passage. Let's let's see, but when the defenses don't get I mean, this is two of your better defenses in the NFL. We know this. Let's see what happens when you're facing that. Some other ones coming up? Fine, Arizona is a pretty good defense. That's fine. The Rams are actually a pretty good defense. Green bas until last night. They played pretty well week one. Obviously not in week two, but I think that was
the Cowboys. That was the Cowboys at that But see, they played pretty well week one, but not in week two, right, Packers. I was making it right, right, but such a buzz kill. Whatever game was a buzz kill, it was big time, all right. I just I'm talking about It's one thing to have a good defense. That's another thing to have a defense like that. It's like, why are you good?
Are you good because you are? Like Cincinnati was last year where they're so good against the run and all that, and then now the Cowboys blew them off the ball. I think what we're finding out you got good pass rushers and good corners, then this is you're gonna be able to handle the Cowboys a little bit. Because you can, then you can manage to stop the run and you're not as worried. I think this is the bigger concern that I have is that Williams, Beasley and Dez are
pretty good. Pretty good is not going to always win. Yep. We saw this last year when you look at the defenses that gave them problems. It was a defenses that had a really good cornerback or two really good cornerbacks, and then had a pretty good solid pass front. Yeah, pretty good front to where they don't have to worry about giving help on the back end. They could just play it straight up in the front. And that's that's
where the Cowboys that problem. Even in Dak's best games last year, when he looked like Joe Montana, the offense was predicated around the run, and the passing game was a compliment to the fact that the defense was terrified
of giving up the run. You can go back and look at any game you want to, and that even includes I mean, there were some games Washington on Thanksgiving comes to mind, you know, the Eagles game obviously comes to mind, the pits, but there are games where Dak made some must have plays in the passing game that doesn't take away from the fact that the run set
it all up. And yeah, if if you can shut down the run and force this to be and force the Cowboys to play through the air, it's probably not going to go great form, at least not at this point in time in Dak's career. You certainly have a much better chance of being able to beat them doing that than you do otherwise. But as you guys both started this show saying, there aren't a lot of teams out there to have that personnel, it's not until you get to those teams that you really had to worry
about that. But I'm if I'm, you know, a diehard Cowboys fan looking for a silver lining to cling to, it's that I just don't. I think there's probably four teams in the NFL that have the personnel to do with the I think you got two more this year. You want to guess which ones they are? Kansas City comes to mind, yep, and December Giants. I mean, well, yeah, but Seattle, Seattle, Yeah, yeah, I forgot me. So basically
those three so far from that's what I say. They are like three teams that you have left on the schedule that fit that mold of good cornerbacks that can cover you man to man and then a front that can get after you. Yeah, but you know, it's not like it's the only way to do it too. I mean, if you, if you if you don't have, if you didn't face the best pass rusher in the in the league yesterday, you will when you face Oakland when they've got Khalil Mack and so, and then they have an
offense that's explosive on the other side. So that's gonna be a different set of problems. But the pass rusher by him by himself, I think the Cowboys can manage it. Yesterday, I think they managed, but you said it, they managed. Von Miller actually played pretty well. Yeah, they managed that through most of the game. It's when you have corners that you can't that the receivers can't get get opened against,
and then you have a problem. Right. The thing that troubles me the most is, and I just said, you know, Denver's got unique personnel. I think that's true. But like I said earlier, the extent to which they were able to just completely make the running game looking napped. I mean, it'd be one thing if Zeke was averaging three point four and had sixty yards and a touchdown. I mean,
that's a bad day for him by our standards. Eight yards, like I mean, And we'd spent a good chunk of the of last week talking about how if there was a weakness to this Denver defense, it was their run defense. Didn't look much, didn't look very weak. Yesterday this looked like a baseball game where you know, you they just mirrored each other, like you're getting no hit over here, and then you know you can't and then you're giving up ten runs over I mean, it's like they couldn't run.
They couldn't stop the run, they couldn't miss, you know, they couldn't avoid tackles. They couldn't make any tackles. You know, they couldn't get off the field on third down. On defense, they couldn't convert third downs. It was just everything they weren't doing on this side the Broncos were, and that's that was troubling. I mean, I didn't realize Elway was back, you know, playing quarterback for them, but I mean he was moving them up and down the field. Hold that
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really at any point other than the first quarter. Maybe even when it was close on the scoreboard though didn't didn't feel like I didn't feel close so much for the one hour pause. Yeah, due to the inclement weather. How many of you guys when they when they had the rain delay or the storm delay whatever it was, thought Okay, well they're gonna go in, they'll come back out, there'll be a different team. This will feel different in when they come back out and resume this game. Well,
it did actually worse. No, they came back, tied the game, and they had the momentum. They actually it did turn around briefly. Big play in the game was that not not getting that fumble. Jeff Heath went down there and got after the touchdown, got the fumble, and I mean they're the ball sitting there and then they couldn't get it. And then Denver goes and scores. And I thought that was a big, big momentum shift there, because you could they were starting to hit, they were flying around, and
Marcus Lawrence made a play at Collins. You know, they scored with Dez. It's like, well, here we go. So I thought things did change a little briefly. But you know, Denver, you just can't. It just couldn't. Cowboys just couldn't get off the field and they couldn't tackle him. I thought Sean Lee played one of his worst games I've ever seen him play. I mean it really did he say that, Yes, he said, this is the worst tackling game he's ever played in all of his history of football. And it was.
It was a bad game for him. It was a bad game. Really. Again, I have a hard time pointing out any person's playing poorly because they all played poorly. Like yeah, like you said, there was very There wasn't a person you could point to to say, yeah, you had a game. Bailey. Bailey did his job. He gave every kickoff was of course, he's playing in thin air, you know this stuff, so you expect that and I'm sure LP did his job and all that. Even though
there was no it wasn't him. I thought Frederick Snapps. I thought Dak was catching him all over the place yesterday. Um, That's why I like covering Shaun Lee. I mean when when you because I wrote that yesterday, I wrote that he didn't play well. But it's always it's always good when you cover someone that just says it first, you know.
With Jason Wenton had a really bad game one time in Seattle after that injury, and we were thinking this the end for him, and he he basically was like, this the worst game I've ever played, and he and I will come back and I'll play better, And he went and set the catch record for tight ends that year or so. Shaun Lee is one of the more accountable guys I've you ever seen that. It's like one of the classic NFL photos of y a Tittle after the game where he's like on his knees in the
end zone and he's like bleeding from the head. That's what Shaun Lee looked like in the locker room yesterday. Like you know, it's like it's chaotic. There's interviews going on over here, the equipment guys are bagging up the locker room the stuff and pads and you know, get it on the truck and get out of there. Sean Lee was just sitting in the chair at his locker just staring. He wasn't there. He was just staring off
into space. And he was like he had his under armor on, he had his game pants still on, Like he wasn't talking to anybody, he wasn't moving. He probably sat like that for like six minutes, like he was just lost, and it was it was just I could just show that picture of him sitting there to anybody and they would know what happened. And ironically, he wasn't the only one I noticed. There were a few guys that were kind of just sitting there, kind of looking
into space after the game. And I think I don't think they expected that to go down like that. I don't. I think they were shell shocked at how poorly they really played. Yeah this is humbling, Yeah they this team hasn't had its ass kick even in twenty fifteen. I really feel like they didn't get their ass kicked like that. Maybe the Panthers game, but this hasn't happened to them very often, and you know, you say they had injuries.
I know we're gonna talk about defense, and you know Scandrick that that was big and kind of snowball there from that one position. But I don't think Scandrick coming back with the cast, Demontre Moore walking into the halls here today and David Irving in two weeks, I don't think those guys fixed that problem. You know. Well, I mean, they they'll help, they'll help, but I don't think they'll fix the problem per se. Well, let's start with that, because I do think that there was one part of
that that that could be a difference. Yesterday we find out that the Cowboys made the decision prior to the game when they made their inactives list, they decided to make Bene bin Wickery, the free agent, I mean, the cornerback that they traded for, they decided to make him inactive yesterday, and that means they started with only four healthy cornerbacks. And in addition, and as opposed to having him active, they make Noah Brown, a sixth wide receiver
active for the game now quickly as does. This is a case when you know, in my opinion, whenever you set yourself up like this, it's gonna always turn out to be what you don't expect it to be. But they lose two cornerbacks in the game. Chittabe goes down with a hamstring injury, and then you get an injury to Nolan Carroll the concussion, and then they're down to two cornerbacks. Obviously, I do think Scandrick helps with that. But do you think they made a poor decision just
from the standpoint of the inactives? Again, I know hindsight is twenty twenty, but do you think that was a short sighted decision knowing that Noah Brown was going to be a six guy and he's probably not gonna play a whole lot at wide receiver. I do think that.
I think it was a poor decision, and not just because of what happened, because you're right, hindsight is always twenty twenty and I but I mean, when you think about having four guys active for a position that you really play three a lot, and so most of them you don't even have a backup at every spot. And that's why I think they were You know, you're you're exposing yourself there, you know, that's why they get on the field. Terrence can you play or can you? Can
you not? Are you gonna play? If you're gonna play, then let's play five receivers. That's fine. You sit Noah Brown. If he gets hurt, then you're playing with four receivers and you can figure out other packages there. So I thought it was a bad decision by them. Not only do you have four corners, but one of them's never played a game, the other one's only played one game. And then you've got Anthony Brown who's played one season. And then in the worst one of the four wards,
Nola Carroll. He was bad before before he got hurt, right, that was so that was not I'll I agree with everything y'all just said. I'll throw this out there that I don't know that I don't know that Ben a Benwicker, he's a cure all there. It would have been his first game snaps with the Cowboys. He's been here for
a little more than two weeks at this point. I mean, it would have been nice to have the body, especially given that Jordan Lewis had never played in an NFL game, But I don't know that would have made a huge difference in the outcome to me. Maybe not a big difference in the outcome, But I'd like to see it rather than seeing a guy that's a rookie safety now dropping down to playing the slot. Yes, you know Xavier Woods was taking snaps in the slot. To me, that
was as soon as I saw it. I'm thinking that can't be good. And so if you at least have been they've been wicker. You have a veteran cornerback that's playing cornerback. Yeah, it helps, which so I mean Carol has a concussion, Cheeto is dealing with the same hamstring that's been bothering him. It's too soon to try to make a prognosis on either of those guys for Monday, but I think even if they seem like they're healthy, I would probably put ben Wickery up this week just
to have the body. You might have to go sign someone. Yeah, and not don't say the name. It's gonna be him. You know, he's in our He's in our mailbox. It's not gonna happen. It's in our mailbox. There's a lot of dry drill. They're calling for him, are there. It's not gonna have the island. He's sitting on an island right now. Maybe all right, Let's let's talk some more about the defense. Though yesterday I thought the biggest problem
for them was that they couldn't stop the run. If you can't stop the run, everything else will float from that. But CG. C. J. Anderson's first hundred yard rusher. They've given up uh in the last year. They didn't give one up all last season. He goes for twenty five carries for one hundred and eighteen yards to four point seven average in a touchdown. UM. What was the difference yesterday as opposed to what they've been doing all this other time as far as being able to stop the run?
I thought it was tackling. I thought, I mean, there was a lot of plays they just couldn't tackle, even when they had two or three guys there. He is a shifty player there, There is there's no doubt. There was a couple of plays down in the gold line where they they have him stopped and he's still kind
of you know, strong. Yeah, he gets as he kind of it's low and kind of slippery and gets in there and gets a yard or two and and but there was a playout in the flat when they had what three or four guys and he's spending and moving and they just did not wrap up. They didn't play very physical. And you know, when Shawn Lee's not playing well, when he's not put tackling well, who is going to
play well? You know? And I just they they were that offensive line kind of got after him a little bit too, and they just did what they wanted to do. I mean, it was this has stopped me if this sounds familiar, but you're not going to see very many opponents that have played the Cowboys in the last year or so that ran the ball thirty nine times. That's no disrespect to them. Obviously, they could have tackled better. They did not play I mean, they did not play
sound defense. But part of the reason the Cowboys have been good at defending the run is because teams team stopped trying to run the ball after a while, when you're down or in an even game in the fourth quarter and you haven't had a lot of success with it, or you don't have a lot of time to do it. I mean, I don't have the numbers offhand, but go look it up. I bet thirty nine attempts against is probably right up there with as many as they've had
to face in the last season plus. Yeah, but the one thing that goes against that is in the first half CJ. Anderson had twelve carries for fifty eight yards or four point eight average. And that's although the number the total number of you're right, the total number of runs. Cowboys probably haven't faced that, but they were having success early in the game, and that's where the bad defense
comes into play. Yeah, I don't think aside from the tackling, there were also a lot of instances and occasions where you would see two guys next to each other in a hole completely open, a space wide open, where the whole defense just looked completely disorganized, and some of these guys looked like they didn't know what they were doing, just kind of there and then they see last minute, don't get fast enough to make that tackle. So it
was just just the whole thing. If you if you were you're right, if you were to look at that team and just not know anybody and go, okay, somebody's playing their first NFL game out there, you wouldn't have picked Jordan Lewis. I mean, you would have picked five or six guys before that, like, okay, not him, this guy and I'm not even talking about the interception. I thought he played pretty well and some in the other spots. The interception just kind of came to him, but he
caught it. And that's better than some of the receivers on the team, uh could say. Uh? And which, what's going back to that? You guys talked about Dez saving a couple of interceptions. He did one, maybe two. I don't know what happened on the goal line there. The one that was down, well, I think that was just the exact same throw the Deck had made those other two that Dez knocked down, and Dez didn't make the play defensively on that one, but it was the same situation.
Threw it inside. I don't know if he was expecting Dez to be inside. We had a shot for that, I mean, it was kind of right in front of us, had a shot, almost made the tackle, but I just not to. You know what's funny. I would have been like Beasley, you know, just go up there and we'll just whipple you off. This look at the Broncos stat line and like they did exactly what the Cowboys want to do. I love the same thing I thought. I mean, look, look looked at it, it it would have looked that is
the that's the Cowboys ideal stat line. Trevor Simeon didn't bomb away. He threw for two hundred and thirty one yards, but he completed seventy percent of his passes. It seemed like every third and every time they were in a third down passing situation. It's not like I can't remember more than maybe one super long passing game. He just found the guy that was poorly covered. Was that touchdown pass and he threw over the top of the deef. Yeah,
that was the best roy he made all day. Yeah, But other than that, you're talking about slants and comebacks on soft coverage on third and five, third and six, and then even better, he looked like freaking Dak Prescott in the red zone. I mean, I think it was twice in a row. They just abused Jordan Lewis on play action in the red zone. And that's exactly the
type of stuff that Cowboys love to do. So although I'm not certain on that one touchdown to eighty five, I'm not sure that wasn't Byron Jones, because Byron reached for him as though, oh my gosh, my guy just got away and he's chasing him. I shouldn't I shouldn't use words like abuse until I've watched the game tape. But they beat the defense badly on a couple of
play actions down there. So you look at those numbers for him, and I guess you look at the receivers and what they did to Marus Thomas catches six balls for seventy one yards. Sanders Goes catches seven balls for sixty two yards and two touchdowns. Are you all concerned looking at what the cornerbacks we did yesterday? Are you all at all concerned about the future of these cornerbacks
facing some pretty good offenses that you love to face. Obviously, you got Green Bay, you got Atlanta, you got some teams coming up that'll be very tough to handle. Are you worried about the cornerbacks? No, Derek, I feel fine. I think it's all great. I think they're gonna be awesome. This is Radio Dave, not that I got to talk about it. Not as concerned as as sarcastic Dave is. Sorry. I mean you are gonna get Scandrick back at some at some point here, I think Jordan Lewis, you know,
assuming he doesn't get hurt. I thought Anthony Brown, you know, he was he was battling. I actually thought he played. He played all right, relatively speaking. Think about this, What if the Cowboys would have done what they normally do on offense, you know, move the ball, scored some points
and gotten the Broncos into kind of a shootout. Right when you look at Thomas six catches seventy one yards Sanders six catches sixty two, it's almost like they were taking it easy on him because of what the score was. If the Cowboys would have been up on this game, Denver would have done whatever they wanted to passing, because they would have just these guys would have towarched the cornerbacks. But they got They kind of a little bit fortunate
that all they had to do was run. But I just when you consider that a rookie safety was playing in the nickel and a guy with no NFL snaps was playing outside, I really thought they could have taken more advantage, right, And they did and they didn't have to running. But I'm saying if the Cowboy, if this game would have been more of a shootout, Denver I
think would have exposed them a little bit more. You know, I disagree a little bit with that because the reason why I think, I think that really the play action is what allowed them to be as successful in the passing and now early on, some of those situations were just like literally they were just throwing passes, short passes, and the Cowboys corners weren't making the tackles quickly enough. That seemed to settle down a little bit. I know, right,
that seemed to settle down a little bit. But I just, you know, I think that because you can't stop the role. When you get in situations where you can't stop the run, good luck with the passing game, especially if it's a game if it's offense that's predicated on short, quick passes, which is what they were doing. Yes, yeah, yeah, And to your point, you will get Scandrick back at some point. Jordan Lewis, honestly, for his he wasn't supposed to play
defense yesterday, I don't. I wrote about that last night. His original game plan was to be a special teamer and maybe some spot duty like in dime or something like that. So for him to get thrown in like that, I'll take that, you know. I mean, when you look at the circumstances is what they are. He was all right, and maybe the Broncos weren't picking on him the way that they could have. But I'll take that as your debut in adverse or substances. The thing that troubles me
is Cheeto. This is the same hamstring. We know how hamstrings go. I and I don't know for sure, We'll have to wait and see, but I hope that this isn't something that impedes him, you know, for at least the first half of his rookie season, because that's that's how you wind up having a rookie year where you don't make the type of impact that you want to. So hopefully he can get right sooner rather than later, because these are the types of things that you know
can linger and frustrate and ir season. I might go I R with him. I'd like to seat maybe. I mean, this is the same injury now, right, same hamstring injury. Maybe maybe this is an eight week thing. It gives you a spot a long time it is, but it gives you a spot to go get another corner. Are you more concerned though about Nolan Carroll? I mean, he took that's another one yeah. And let's be honest, like, even this goes back to training k didn't look great.
Not he has not looked great. Like there have been a couple days during training camp when we say, hey, wow, Nolan Carroll had a pretty good day. We'll do what you gotta. I think there were way more days when it was like, man, what's what's going on with Nolan Carroll? Right? And you know, make the move then. I mean, I don't know what it costs you, but make the move. Well, right now, you don't have any options. I don't think you. I don't think cutting him is an option. At this point.
You kind of have to ride with him. But you're also hoping that these rookies kind of ascend a little bit and they can play a little more. That's kind of my point is, And this isn't This is not a hard and fast rule because I remember last year saying, well, Malie Collins's rookie years awash because he's gonna miss mini camp, he's gonna miss most of training camp, and rookies just
don't recover from stuff like that. Well he did, he did, But as a general principle, it's hard for a rookie to come up and develop into something super meaningful if he's not available to play. And that's and practice for that matter. And that's what I worry about with Cheeto, given that you know, he missed something like seventeen days
of training camp. This is bothering him again again. I don't know how long this is going to hold them out, but it's got to be concerning when the guy that you drafted first among all these defensive backs some or sixty overall isn't he's not getting the reps that he needs in order to get that improvement that you want to see. All right, did you have something? Well? Maybe yeah, when we come back from break, we can talk about it. I mean, and it was pretty much a blowout from
the start to finish. But I do think in the fourth quarter I thought Jason maybe mismanaged that a little bit. They had a shot there, and we talked about it on the sideline, but I thought they should have kicked the field goal there. Yeah, I disagree, but I think that's a good discussion point. Do that when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. To work this big land, you need equipment with values rooted
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get beat really bad. The Cowboys they got caught with their pants down yesterday, and hopefully they were wearing Tommy John underwear. If you're gonna get deep, if you're gonna get deep pantsed, you should do it in total comfort. And that is what Tommy and Style Style stylish. Especially if you get the Cowboys flavored Tommy John Underwear fantastic flavor. You know, well, that could be a different industry altogether.
But if you go to Tommy John dot com forward slash Cowboys, you can get twenty percent off your first order and the next time you get deep pansed, you might be embarrassed, but at least you'll look good and feel good too. So I think we may have just made a new tagline for Tommy Jude ariston comfort, be comfortable. Yeah, okay, that was that was interesting. Um, let's get back into it, Nick, you had a point you want to make there before well, I think that you know the Cowboys are driving there.
It would have been nice if um, um, Jason Witten catches all over the middle. Would have been a tough play. It was the first play when we walked down there on the field. That's the first thing I saw was a past to Witten. I thought he could have caught it for a touchdown. Would have yeah, would have maybe changed things a little bit, made it interesting, made it thirty five to twenty four. But with fourth down with three fifty one to go, I thought they should have
kicked a field goal there. I mean, you're down three scores already, so make it two scores. I mean, here's your shot to do that fourth and three from the seven, especially if you're gonna throw a low percentage passed the Daz to go and catch the ball. And you know, Jason was asked that after the game, and I thought he had a good answer. But I still think, especially because you make it a fifteen point game, you kick it to them, they're gonna they're gonna start, you know,
and they're gonna be conservative. Now you're still gonna get the ball back. And they got down there again. Yeah, I guess the only the way I disagreed a little bit was where they were on the field against this defense. I couldn't count on them getting that close again. So the chances of getting into the end zone when you're at the seven versus getting in the end zone where you're starting back at your own twenty or you're own
twenty five or you're own thirty, whatever it is. Yeah, they hadn't moved the ball consistently all day, so you only have to get to about the thirty five to get a field goal, thirty seven maybe to get a field goal. So I would have felt more comfortable at three forty three. That's even better, right, gonna kick a
sixty yard that's even better. But I guess the point I'm making no is, yeah, if you have to just get there for a field goal, I think I have more faith that they can get there than I do that they can get back to the seven for a touchdown. If this is a scenario where it's like forty one thirty one and you've been moving the ball all day and you can cross that your offense has had some success, maybe I'll quibble about do you kick or go for
the touchdown? But kind of irrelevant. I just never felt like this was even remotely close to a situation where they could have made it a game. And so I know it's like it doesn't matter, but I just look at it like, but it should. It should matter to the coach that's getting paid handsomely to try to put his team in the past as position. I think what you always try to do. You see these coaches they
call time out all the time. You're trying to extend the game, And I think in a situation like this that you know you're saying you don't think they could they could have drive down there. I don't like fourth and three from the seven. I mean, I don't like that. I think it even it gets tight down there, they can't score, they can't find I mean, look at all of his options are just to throw it, fades and stuff like that. They can't really work it in there.
So I just would have said, all right, let's make it fifteen. Let's let's kick off. They're gonna do nothing with the ball, and they got a little bit of pressure on them. Now they're gonna punt it back. You don't know if you can count on a twenty yards turn again from Switzer, but he did a nice job,
you know, and they got down there again. And then so let's say you're down there like they were again, they're down there down by fifteen, you can maybe work a little bit more clock to run or to do something to try to punch it in, because then if you score and make it an eight point game with under a minute, now you're now all you are is an on site kick away from at least throwing it into the end zone, you know what I mean. So
Jason likes to prolong the game. I kind of thought he could have done that, but his answer was, you know you're probably gonna you're already there to score, try to get another one in if you have to kick a sixty yard or try to win, that's where it's gonna be. I mean, I see the point. I think I would have kicked it. All right, Let's let's jump into some phone calls. You guys can call us two one four eight seven two twenty one oh two. Again it's two one four eight seven two twenty one oh two.
You can also hit us on Twitter at Cowboys Break will start with a call from Chris in Maryland. Chris, what up? Hey, guys? Are you Chris can hear me? Yeah, you can hear you? Okay, sorry about that. It's I was having a hard time here you get through my bluetooth. Um, yeah, I'm calling it about Um, there's a couple of things I saw yesterday that really bothered me. And um, it's a second consecutive game I've seen this. Um, Dak Prescott has to me, has not looked sharp. We're very accurate
in both games I watched. And UM, I don't know if it's him or Dez when he's trying to connect to him. But yesterday it looked like he was throwing straight to the DD. It's De's not coming coming back for the ball, or is here? Is Dak just throwing it that poorly? And my second point was something you guys touched on earlier, was I'm sorry, but I don't think dez Really's earned at eighty eight. And that's just
my opinion. But we look like we got a bunch of really good number two's, but we don't look like we've got that number one, like that playmaker like Michael ervin Is. And um, I'll think your comments off the air, and you guys have a good day, all right, thanks for the call. Well let's start. I'm not even gonna go with that second part. I mean, I mean, isn't he Is he not yet the franchises all time leader
in receiving touchdowns? Yeah, and he makes plays. And I heard this morning when I was driving in, I heard some people trying to make that argument. And then when I got to the office, I started watching the game back, and I think people forget about some of the catches that he made yesterday, that catch on the sideline where we thought it was, that one we thought was was not going to be a catch, but on the replay a catch. On the replay it looks like one, and
certainly they called it a catch. So either way, all I'm saying is, there's some plays that he made yesterday that I thought was some really really great catches for this team. Now I get where the callers coming from. You want to see him when he's up against really great cornerbacks be able to win more. Um. Last week, you would have wanted him to win more. This week, you probably would have wanted him to win more. You certainly don't him to let the ball go through his
hands and then that ends up in an interception. He's saved two interceptions though as well. But I guess that's where I understand what the call is saying. I just don't think I agree completely because I think you forget about the really good plays, great plays that he makes. He's a number one receiver in my mind, he's just I mean, he's off to not the start that he wants for this season. Let me say that first and foremost. But he's no nobody ever thought he was in that
class with Julio A. B And Beckham, did they? I mean, like those I think the case that you had to put him up there, hasn't you haven't had much to go on since about twenty fourteen, and you know, he is what he is. I think he's a very good receiver. I think he's a number one receiver. I certainly think he's worthy of being number eighty eight. I think that's silly, but I don't know that he is that Antonio Brown
always going to produce guy. The guy that he gets compared a lot too, for many reasons, is the Marus Thomas, the Broncos receiver. They were drafted in the same class, very close to each other. I believe they were signed on their extension not same day, same day, same amount of money. So you know, um yeah, yeah, he sports is eighty eight, and he's a more productive player. Damarius Thomas has been a more productive player in his career.
I mean he's you know, he catches ninety balls a season for five straight years and you know he has a solid, solid game there yesterday, so not as flashy. I mean, I don't understand when people say as a number one receiver. Number one receiver means you're the starting receiver, right, means you are You're the number one guy on the team. So there's thirty two number one receivers. That's silly to say that he's not a number one. He's not an elite, top five receiver. That's what you paid him to be.
Those three you mentioned. Now you've got Mike Evans in there, who I think is better, and aj Green probably well more accomplished. He's stuck in his own situation. I mean, everyone's got you know, and you got Jordi Nelson, you got all this situations different receivers. But I think he's a top ten receiver. I will say that I'm okay with that. And this goes back to your point from last week. Nick sixteen targets knowing the type of coverage he's going to be facing and the type of cornerbacks
he's playing. I don't know that you're doing him any favors there, and that's I mean, that sounds like a knock on him, like he's not capable of beating that. But if and that goes back to the fact that the Broncos have the cornerbacks capable of playing man up on these guys and you don't have to double cover him. But I would like to think there's an easier option out there. Somewhere rather than just you're bound and determined to get Dez the ball. I mean, five targets for
Terrence certainly seems small to me. Five targets for Zeke seems small to me. And even in a game like this, Beasley, and in a game like this, maybe Ryan Switzer can do something for you. Yeah, he was an interesting stat to think about. Dez Bryant right now is second in the league and number of targets through two games, Yet he is ranked down around thirty six, thirty five and number of receptions. So you just think about the disparity there in the number of targets to the number of
actual receptions. He only has nine receptions for the season, but has been targeted. What's said, gotta be like whey five times and through two games that they will They will never admit it, and maybe they're not, but it certainly seems like they're listening to the noise that says, you know, Dez has to do this, this, and this, whereas the line is we're gonna run our offense, We're gonna get it to the guy there or maybe or maybe it's something in between, which is they say, we've
got this really dynamic receiver. We've seen him have a great offseason. We think we need to feed him the ball because we feel like it's best for our office. We think he can make some dynamic plays, and they just haven't been able to. It's interesting because you go back and you think about this caller. He said, well, Dez hasn't been living up to number eighty. But then he also says the quarterback has been highly inaccurate. Well, that it be why Dez maybe isn't being as productive
as you wanted to be. Is because maybe the quarterback isn't being as accurate as he needs to be. With a receiver like Dez, who we know is not necessarily going to get a lot of separation, he sees the ball placed in the right position for him to make a playoff. You know, unlike other years, Dez has been there all of training camp. He really wasn't hurt. It wasn't like there was injuries that that slowed them down.
They were he was there for this offseason. You know, there's really no reason why these two shouldn't be on the same page. But again, let's wait and see. Not everybody's denver in the Giants on defense and and let's let's see how it plays out. It's still early in the year, but I'm certain, like, on even as bad of a loss as that was, I'm somewhere around to three in terms of like how troubled I am about you know what this means for the season. I mean, I went and looked it up. Good teams get their
asses kicked in the NFL. It's Sunday Night football, last night fotball. Two years ago, Green Bay got demolished in that same stadium twenty nine to ten. I remember watching it in the press by at At and T. It wasn't even close. Tom Brady famously lost forty one to fourteen to the Chiefs in a year that they won the Super Bowl. So, I mean, I'm sorry if that sounds like sunshine pumping, but it was true. It was bad.
There's a lot of stuff they need to fix. It doesn't mean that they're a bad football team, and you just you take I mean, I loved Sean Lee's quote last night. He was like, you watch the tape, take what's good from it that you can won't be a whole lot, and then you try to fix what else was bad, which is a lot let's get a question from Twitter. So there's a lot of questions about Byron Jones.
Can we quickly mention him just are you guys concerned about his performance moving forward based on everything that we've seen so far? Yeah, I just thought child came up with the other guys. I mean, there was a few play he made, a play he made he made a nice play to save a touchdown. Yeah, you know, showers, Okay, he showed some range there, but he also had I think he gave up at least one touchdown, maybe another. And you know, I mean the whole thing they were scrambling.
I thought we would see him at corner or some that they were probably really close to doing that. Now, let's not forget. You know, he did miss sometime this week with a growing injury. I bet he was dealing with that a little bit, but he was healthy enough to play, and you know, it's got to get better
with him too. It's unfortunate because of the injuries. But I mean, to this point, the optimism that they had in the secondary, you know, improving it through talent alone is not I mean, it's not coming to bear through two games and it's early in the season. But you know, you have that optimism in the offseason before games actually
start getting played. And this is what it's actually looked like through two games, which, again, to be fair, there have been a lot of injuries, but doesn't look awesome. I think I think as as fans and spectators and
media like, I think we're bit spoiled. Maybe, and that's maybe a wrong word because it's only been one year, but I think I think everybody looks at the immediate success of that rookie class last year and they forget that rookies take sometimes and most of the time, vast majority of the time, it takes rookies a little bit
of time. And in these cornerbacks, you were expecting them to come in and be able to contribute early, and especially the cornerbacks, they missed a significant amount of time during training camp, which which is which is really their only training for the NFL. Yeah, and so to expect that they were going to be able to be thrown out there yesterday and all of a sudden be able to just play, I just think that's a lot to
ask for for rookies cornerback. Yeah. Let me also throw this part out too, because we've said this several times about the defense, like facing this defense, it's they're not always going to be this tough. You're not always going to face defenses like that. That being said, they get better than Trevor Simeons, they get better than c. J. Andrews, better offense. So that's that's part of it as well. And so it's you could kind of take one thing. I mean, this was a bad loss all the way around,
no way to slice it. The special teams was bad. I mean, well they had some moments, but they had some They had some misues too. But the one thing I will say is in the dack Ar this team has been able to perform against better against good offenses than they have against good defenses. They played great defenses, they struggle, they played great offenses. They can they can play with them because again they can stick within how
they play offense, and that's how they good. I'll take my chances against all the best quarterbacks in the NFL absolutely before I want to play a defense like that. Yeah, but in more parts of that. But I think that you know, teams got to be kind of careful there because this they're gonna look at it and say this is the blueprint go up there and you stop them. Look and you stop these guys on the outside. But
that's and you're right, the blueprints right there. The Cardinals will try, you know, I guess what the Giants set the blueprint last year. Only the Vikings could replicate it, and they couldn't replicate it to a win. My point was going to be that there's, like I said, I really only think there's so many teams in the league that can replicate that blueprint. You can try if you want to, But how many teams have they played. I
don't know, something like fifteen teams. If you take out repeat against division opponents, three of them have managed to put that plan together. So I don't think it's worth panicking over. It's definitely something to consider when you're going up against these types of teams, especially if you get into the playoffs. Yep, you gotta win your division. We know that. And nobody in this division is going to
go run away with anybody or anything. You know. It looks like, depending on what the Giants do, Night might have a four way time here in the second week, which is not uncommon all. It looks like everybody's gonna be bunched up together, and that's probably gonna look like a lot of the season. I would have suspect there's not gonna be an eleven game winning streak after this loss. Who knows. Maybe they were one and one after last season two, weren't they? That was fun? Yea, let's do
that again. All right, guys, we appreciate you joining us. We're back tomorrow at our normal time of nine thirty AMS Central Time till then for Nick even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia on Derek Eagles. And this has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
