Cowboys Break: Dak's Deal?

I'm live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Nick is joining me here in the studio. We got Dave and Amber who are from their homes, and we're gonna talk Cowboys football if you guys, for forty five minutes. Today is Tuesday, so it's a big picture day. We got a lot of topics to talk about and we're going to hit a lot of different things. So let's jump right in. I want to start first talking about

something that McCarthy mentioned on his press conference yesterday. He was asked, do the Cowboys have to recalibrate now that you make a change at quarterback? And he actually liked that word, and he said, yeah, exactly, that's that's kind of how we look at it. We kind of have to recalibrate, calibrate. My question for you guys is do you think they need to change the offensive line? Is that one of the calibrations that they need to make? Now? Last week they had you know, Steel on one side

and they had Brandon Knight on the other. Do you think at this point, knowing that you don't have a quarterback or at least we don't think you have a quarterback who's as mobile, do you think they need to make a change in the offensive line? Nicko, let's start with you. Honestly, I think they need to get I mean, the best guys they can get up there. I mean,

I don't care if Dak was playing or not. I mean if Cam Irving comes back this week and he's better option than Terrence Deal, which he wasn't in Week one apparently according to the coaches. But I mean, I don't know if it really matters as far as what their skill set is. I just think they need to get the best guys. And maybe Terrence Steele's getting better,

He's going to get better. It's hard to judge off one game, but I don't think the skill set of Dak and Andy Dalton should affect the guys up front. If give me the five best guys up there, regardless was playing Amber. It's tough now that you keep losing guys. So like a few weeks ago, yeah, it was kind of fun to talk about the different combinations that you

could do and the different options. But then once you're down to the amount of guys that you are, I mean the group of guys, I don't see them that far off from each other. So I think that, like Nick said, at this point, it's just trying to get the best five guys that you have at the moment. And just again what we keep talking about is making sure that they're able to find the combination that they want and just stick to it so that there is

a sense of continue what would be the word continuity continuity? Yeah, continuity continuity, Yeah, Yeah, to kind of keep it, keep it the same, and get that part established so that you don't keep having to go into games just kind of wondering, oh, what who are we going to get

on this side? What's going to happen here? So just solidifying that aspect, but get your five guys, the best five guys out there, David, you answer this question though, also let me know what you think about how those guys played this week, Steal and particularly Steal, Beotish and Night.

I continue to be impressed by Tyler Beotish. You know, as the as people start to look at the All twenty two and the grades come out, you can find the clips of him performing really well, like hitting reach blocks, getting to the second level, like he had a couple of really nice blocks that helped spring Zeke the other day. I didn't notice Terrence Steele this week, which seems like a good thing. I mean, it's against New York, so, like everything about that game, I'm just gonna couch it

by it now. I'm serious, Like, don't expect me to get too excited about anything. I saw against the Giants, so it seemed like they held up, but I would like to see it against better opposition. But I love the quote from Kellen Moore yesterday. He almost sounded he almost sounded like kind of indignant. He was like Andy, Andy can move, like Andy can move and make plays. He can do that stuff. And to his credit, he was drifting and getting out of the pocket on that

first throw to gallop on the game winning drive. So I definitely don't think Andy is as athletic as Dak Prescott, but maybe we are making too much of him being this pocket passer. I think he's he's young enough and fit enough that he can probably you know, make athletic plays that that didn't that won't require you to overall the offensive line. Kind of looks like he is the modern NFL quarterback. And what I mean by that is even the guys who you would consider to be not

running quarterbacks still can run. I think it's almost impossible in today's NFL to come into the NFL and play quarterback and not be able to move around some I think that's kind of an old thing that you look back at. Maybe some of the older quarterbacks in the league, like Philip Rivers, maybe they're they're that kind of quarterback. I think these younger guys coming in and I would still I mean, I know, you know, obviously Dandy Dalton

is not young. He's closer to the end of his career than the beginning, but I still think he's more of that mold of quarterball. I mean, Eli Manning hardly got sacked this whole career. He didn't ever come out of games. It's not because he was the most athletic person. It's because he's got pocket awareness. And the really good quarterbacks know how to do that. They have that clock in their head, they know where to shift, they can

feel the pressure. I mean, you know some of them like you know, if it helps if you have eyes in the back of your head like Romo did. But I mean, but you just need to have that pocket presence. And I think he showed that in the game the other night, just just rolling out like that. And a lot of times when you roll out you're throwing it away. He did a really nice job of just seeing gallop and making that throw. All right, let's go ahead and

move on to another topic about recalibration. Now that the Cowboys don't have Dak Prescott, the next thing we've talked about has been Denucci. He now becomes your backup quarterback. How comfortable do you guys feel with him being the backup? I mean, this is a guy that now is one play from being in the game. Let's start first with you Amber. I mean, I guess I have to go back from what I saw a training camp. It wasn't terrible, because that's the only thing we've actually got in to see.

He is a guy that obviously needs experience, but based on what I can remember, he wasn't terrible. He had some good plays, he could make some throws. But still you never fully comfortable when you're going in if that was to happen in a case of emergency. You're never fully comfortable of having a rookie quarterback that hasn't even played a preseason game, hasn't really got able to be out there with the first team, and especially when you talk about the old line issues, it just created a

worse combination of it all. So, no, it's not exciting, and let's hope it does not get to that point. Dave. This is one of those things where I mean, what's the alternative, Like, no, I'm not excited about Benda Nucci having to play, but you're talking about your third quarterback. I mean, you had a top notch guy he's hurt. Now your backup is a three time Pro bowler that is as good as you can expect to be in terms of death in the NFL. Whoever you would bring it.

I mean, it sounds like they're signing Garrett Gilbert the old SMU quarterback, former Texas quarterback, if I recall correctly, Yeah, yeah, I know, we don't have to talk about it. He has played in five career games. I think he's attempted three NFL passes. So that's what you're talking about. Um, there's probably one quarterback in the world who's unemployed right now who has extensive playing experience. Saying that the I mean, you know who I'm talking about. Colin Kaepernick's out there,

but nobody he has not. He has not been hired at any point in the last three years. I don't see any evidence that suggests the Cowboys are interested in doing that. Maybe if something actually does happen a Dalton, maybe you have that conversation. But right now, this is as good as it gets. That's what's available. Nick. I'm going to alter the question a little bit for you.

What kind of impact is There's one thing to think of him as your insurance policy in the event something happens Andy, But right now where they need him to kind of step up is he's got to be running the scout game team. So he's going to be responsible every week for being able to give the defense a good look. At what they're going to face in the opposing offense. How much of an impact do you think he might have there? Good or bad you're talking about.

But you know he's an athletic guy. You know he did. I was looking at his college stats. I think he's he's running maybe fifteen or so touchdowns his career, So, I mean he's he can. He's more of the mobile guy that you're talking about there. I mean, I'm not one hundred percent sure he will be the backup when now he probably will this week, Garrett Gilbert's gonna sign here. But you remember it's six days so even though he's been with the Browns and testing and doing all that stuff,

it takes a while to get him in here. Um, but so he'll be the backup for this game. I think Gilbert can be in uniform for the game Monday night. Do you think when they you're saying, when you think when they bring in Gilbert, Gilbert's gonna jump once he's in the building and assimilated, He's gonna jump it up two I think. So. I mean he's kind of a journeyman. He's been around, Like Dave said, he hasn't played much.

But I mean, he's there's something to be said for the guy that's on the sidelines and listening to the calls and seeing that stuff and listening and being in the room more. I just think he's probably better equipped to be the backup. But you know, it's it's close. I mean, I would imagine it's you know, it's he's that experienced. But um, you know. The funny thing about

Denucci too, is the guys he was playing with. You know, Amber said he hasn't had reps with the first team, but think about it in the preseason or training camp, you know, be honest, I'm sure it was a center. Terrence Steele was, you know, and was getting all these guys like he's like, where are my guys? All my guys are now? Actually the that's a good play. I mean like he's he's like, I've taken a whole plenty of snaps with Beodist and that, and the same with

Andy Dalton and Beodist. That's why that's that fumbled snap was kind of weird because it's like they've taken a lot of snaps your guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I remember a lot of the conversations and Nick, you

you heard some of them too. I know Darren Woodson talked about it a little bit when the Cowboys started to realize how good Romo was was when he was running scout team because he, according to the players, he was lightening up the defense on a regular occasion, the starting the defense on a regular occasion running the scout team. So it's a great opportunity for a young quarterback to be able to get in there and show what he can do. But you also relying on him to be

able to give you a good look. And so this can go either way. And if he does a good job, it actually helps the team right now, but it also sets him up full opportunities I think in the future. And by the way, I don't know if we talked about this, but I was told afterwards. I asked Cedric Wilson, was he the emergency quarterback? Oh, we talked about this, I think, and I said it was Blake Blake Bell. Blake Bell, Yeah, and oh yeah he was a quarterback

and coming about yeah, yeah, I should know that. Really well, yeah he wasn't. He wasn't really a thrower. But I'm curious to see what would have happened if that was if he would have gotten in there. Number eighty's the quarterback line up and run option and love it. See how it goes? All right, we're gonna take an early break here. Hate it. Sorry, that would have been terrible. Don't want to have to do that. All right, We're

gonna go ahead and take an early break here. Um, when we come back, I want to talk a little bit more about Dack's injury. I want to talk specifically about out Um, what what kind of changes you think this this occur as a result of this, more from the standpoint of how much this may affect this contract. And also, Jerry said something very interesting this morning about running quarterbacks and what that means and maybe what that means to the future of dak here as the quarterback

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changes that will come as a result of it. I want to go back a little bit and talk about the bigger picture thing that I think everybody, as you said yesterday, Nick, everybody probably thought about it during the industry after the injury, most people didn't say anything, But I think it's appro now for us to have this conversation, because I do think it's something that looms large for

the Cowboys in for Dak. The question is do you think that the contract changes for either party in this instance or what they were willing to do changes for either party in this instance based upon the fact that Dak is now out for the season with what looked like a horrific injury. But according to Jerry this morning, one five out three the fan, he will be able to recover from this completely and should be back to normal. Dave,

let's start with you. I mean I was worried about it in the immediate aftermath because you don't know how serious it is. I'm gonna take Jerry at his word and say, you know, it's it's a Florida six month recovery. They think he'll be fine by May, and it doesn't sound like it should have any long term effects. I think it was Connor Barwin, the old linebacker who you know, He tweeted Dak that he had the same thing and he was as good as new the next year or so.

If that's true, I don't really think it changes that much, to be honest with you. The only thing that I think my change it is you know, is this kind of like a near death experience. I hate to use that phrase, but this maybe this scares Dak into thinking, like, you know, security is more important at the end of the day, and maybe maybe he might change his attitude.

But I don't even really believe that. I mean, I think Dak Prescott is one of the most self assured and confident people that I've ever been around, and I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't change his attitude a whole lot at all. Nick, you know, David I both answered this on the mailback this morning about will to affect his money. Dave kind of said that I where I think he could take he could get less money is based off of what he was maybe going to

do this year. If you keep putting up these numbers, Let's say they start winning some of these close games and they get in the playoffs with these numbers, then you're gonna definitely surpass Deshaun Watson's forty million a year, and you're gonna get you I mean, you're gonna get up there. I don't know if he's I don't know if he's still going to be able to get all of that based off of what happened here. But I also think you said Dak might be scared, the Cowboys

might be scared too. They might actually give him what he wants. At this point, he wanted a four year He wanted a four year deal this year. He might want a three year deal next year, and the Cowboys might be willing to do something like that just to see how everything goes. And you know, I don't know if this is gonna be a long term thing or not. Injury, but I just think maybe it might give them kind

of what both of them want. Amber I don't think it should effected at all in my personal opinion, I think, well, my biggest concern about Dak and my hesitation when he came to a long term deal was me not being sure if he was a guy, a quarterback that could actually carry the team where he doesn't need so many great guys around him. In the past, I've always seen Ezekiel Elliott being the one that carries the team. This

year that completely changed. I mean, because of injuries and everything that has happened in the old line, it has affected, in my opinion, the running game, and Ezekiel Ellie hasn't been able to be as productive as we've seen in the past, but this year Dad has completely elevated his game and exceeded my personal expectations. So this year, with just four games and a half, I think he showed that he can be that guy to carry the team, and even though he has great receivers around him, he

was able to elevate the passing game for Dallas. So I think he deserves everything he deserves to get what he wants. And when you take into consideration the fact that the Cowboys have been saving money for this possible contract as far as them. You know, you've heard Jerry Jones talk about them not maybe bringing in a defensive player just because of what that might look like money wise,

as far as cap money for next year. So I think that the Cowboys do see the value in Dak and I think that the way that he played and carried the team so far in the early season this year hopefully kind of sealed the deal for the Cowboys, especially when it's an ankle injury that you can recover from. Luckily it wasn't anything in the arm or something that's

going to be like long term. Yeah, based upon what all you guys have said, I think we all agree that Dak Prescott is going to be the future quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. He should be healthy, he will be the future quarterback. I'm going to change that question a little bit for you, though. Let's assume for a second that Andy Dalton takes the scene deep into the playoffs. Does that, in any way in your mind change the future prospects of what the Cowboys decide to do at

the quarterback position, Nicholas, start with you. I don't think it changes the personnel. I think I think Dak is still going to be the quarterback for sure. I mean, but it I just think it might change the narrative of how much you pay him and how much it helps if if Andy Dalton could come in here and win some of these games. I mean, I kind of disagree with Amber on completely carrying the team. He was

leading the team. They were one in three as well, though, that they weren't winning some of these games, and you have to put some of it on dec I mean, I love Dak and I was right there. I could have shed a tear if it would have helped anything. The other day. I hated seeing that, But I do think that he's still got He's got some growing to do as far as winning some of those close games. And you know, I don't know if Andy Dalton's going

to come in and be better at that. I just think that if he does come in and have a lot of success, I think it might let the Cowboys stick to what they think all along is that you know, they've got so much money invested in the quarterback, and they've got a lot of guys around him that are helping him because if it can help Andy Dalton, then they should help Dak. That's kind of the way I view it. So you think in that way, the Cowboys make the argument, Hey, these are the same tools you have.

You probably would have done the same thing. So it's not that it's not so much on you. It's on the fact that we've got a good team around you, particularly a good office around and here's the deal we had in the place. I'm not trying to give you less money because you broke your ankle. Here's the deal, and maybe he takes it. I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of different what ifs about that. Amber.

What are your thoughts. It's definitely going to create a debate, for sure, you know, there's gonna be a huge debate if Andy Dalton and does have a really good season. But I don't think it would change I mean, I think the Cowboys love Dak for everything that makes him who he is aside from just the on field stuff. They love him as a leader. They we saw the impact that he's had around his guide. To find that the whole team went up to him to make sure they got a little cap on the hand or on

the helmet, I mean that says a lot. So I think that he goes beyond just what you can do on the field. It's also the leadership and the kind of person that he is, and the Cowboys love him. So I don't think that it would completely change it, but it's definitely going to create a big debate about it. Dave, It's a really wonderful point, a g And like, don't just think about the front office, but you also have

to consider the message that that sends. If you do that and you saw how beloved he is by everybody in that locker room, I mean, you already knew it anyway, but you saw it on Sunday. That's an interesting point. If the Cowboys tried to pull that off, and I wonder how a lot of guys would react to it. To answer the question more plainly, like, I guess I'd

have to see just how well Andy Dalton played. I mean, if they get into the playoffs with him managing the game, I don't care, Like I mean, Dak was Dak is in the middle of transforming into that quarterback or he was. I mean, yeah, they were one in three. But the stuff that he was doing on a regular basis, being able to take over games and will his team back into game, I mean, that's that's what people always say they want to see, is like, oh, well he's not Rogers.

He can't take over the game without without his starting tackles. Yeah, Ken, he was doing it on a regular basis, And I'm not getting rid of that because I think I can, you know, save a few bucks. No way, not if he continues on the trajectory that it looks like he's on, You're gonna look real stupid in about five years trying to pull that off. Unless Dalton just has this absolutely amazing resurgence where he is playing like an all pro.

But that's never really been his game, and he was on some pretty good teams at different points in his Cincinnati career, So I would be surprised to see that, And no, I'm not trading that in for what I think Dak might become. Yeah, I think when you look at it, and to go to your point, Dave, I think we do look at it. I don't see a scenario where the Cowboys will be winning and winning big and what I mean by that is winning deep into the playoffs without their offense scoring a ton of points.

Like it's not this defense is going to transform overnight. They had some players that played really well in this last game, and even with that, they still gave up Even if you take away the touchdown that was scored on the pick six, they still gave up twenty seven points. So I mean it's it's one of those situations where they're gonna have to score a lot of points offensively. I'm sorry, but does it get tougher than Daniel Jones Darius Slayton, And absolutely it does. It does I'm saying

that get worse, And that's my point. The defense is still going to be the defense. So there is no scenario where the offense is not gonna have to rely on the quarterback. To score a ton of points if the Cowboys are going to be successful. So I think he's gonna have if this happens, I think he's gonna have great season. I think the way that that it goes though, is very similar to what happened in Philly.

You yeah, I mean they went all the way to the mountaintop with with Nick Foles won the Super Bowl, and then they shook his hand and said we're going back to our young guy. Because that's the issue. That is five years younger than than Andy, and quite frankly, I think they're comparable at the least, they're comparable quarterbacks. And so if you've got two guys, you think both have the capability to be able to do the job. I think you still go with the younger guy, the

significantly younger guy. In NFL years five years less, that means you got five more years potentially of a contract. Yeah. To me, I think I think you kind of changed the question in my opinion. I never am I saying

go to Andy Dalton over Dack. What I'm thinking saying is is I think if Andy Dalton has success, it might let the Cowboys kind of stick to where they are with what they want to give him because he was on a path to maybe exceed that and you gotta you gotta break the bank even more than they want. I think if if, if the injury, plus what happens if he has success, it kind of keeps them on the same plane of all right, this is kind of what we still think. This is where you need to

be understood. I wasn't disputing that. What I'm saying. My question initially was about does this change anything about the Cowboys and the decision that they make at the end of the year. If he should take them deep in the playoffs, do they should they consider the possibility of keeping him around. I don't think that's a real possibility. I think Dak is their guy, and I guess that was the question I was asking you, guys, He'll make

more money somewhere else because he'll get it. Absolutely, that's absolutely right, the same thing that that Nick Foles did, and I think it researches this. It gives him a new new life into his career that otherwise it was

probably floundering. Am bit you know, all right, real quick, before we go to another break, I want to talk a little bit about a comment that Jerry Mate this morning on one or five out three the Fan, he says he was talking about Dak's injury, and he said, what it does remind me of, though, is you cannot figure in as part of your offense, is that you really are vulnerable when you put a running game in that real utilizes a lot the running game with the quarterback,

this game, you're going to get hurt. Basically, what he's saying there in kind of the you know reading James words, is you play your quarterback, you run him a lot, You're going to get him hurt. How much do you think that changes that mindset, changes how the Cowboys decide to use Dak when he comes back next season, Because I do believe the running game is a big part of the advantages of what you get in a quarterback

like Dak Prescott amber up first. Well, after seeing what happened, there's always going to be certain hesitation in playing your quarterback that way because you don't want something like that to happen again. But at the same time, knowing your east should necessarily dictate the kind of game plan that you decide to put out there. I do think that the timing of when they choose to run him and have him keep the ball should be a little different.

Like we've seen him in the red zone and get touched then that way, and it has worked pretty pretty well for them. But I think that if they are able to really find the right balance between their running back running game and the passing game, there there's really no need to get Dak out of the pocket and have him run for that far. You know, little yards here and there. It's okay, but in a scenario like that, obviously, that would not be my choice. Nick, I think I

kind of disagree again. I mean, I just feel like he's not that's not his strength is to sit in the pocket and make make these throws. M He's doing it though, I mean he was doing it. He was having a really good uh year, And I think what you guys are onto something about, you know, just like Russell Wilson had to kind of, you know, transform his game and getting better and better. He was showing that. His strength, though, is still not with those intermediate throws.

That's not He's not Troy Aitman like that. He doesn't have that pinpoint accuracy. He has though, is he's a linebacker that plays quarterback and so that play, the play that got him hurt, is a play that you know. I mean, you could say, well, why was he getting extra yards? I've heard that complaint. Well, he's getting extra yards because that's the player you love. You love that guy because he's tough and he plays that way, and it got him hurt. But I don't think it it

will change that. There's a record that Cowboys have won. I gotta go look it up. But when he gets about thirty yards or more a game, I mean it's like twenty one and three or something. So that's kind of his game and it's just unfortunate that he got hurt doing it. But I don't he's ever been really really fast, So a broken ankle, he's not gonna come back and gonna be slower. I mean, it's he's still gonna be built strong and throw the ball well and

run people over. I don't know if it changed as much. Dave I agree with or I disagree with both of y'all, unfortunately, because I think that's that's what makes this contract negotiation so interesting, is like dak is becoming that quarterback who can stand in the pocket and just drive dimes on everybody. I highly encourage everyone to go pull up the clips of all of his throws to CD the other day, and there are just some incredible freakin throws, especially the

ones down the seam. The guy is a lot more accurate than he gets credit for in my opinion. But going back to the real conversation is it's funny because in the interview this morning, Jerry, at the beginning of the interview, he was like, you can't, you can't play that what if game. This is football, and then five minutes later that's exactly what he did. And this is the epitome of the what if game. Dak was averaging

three and a half carries per game this year. He had only cared that it was his eighteenth carry of the year. He was right on pace for his normal number of carries. If he had kept up that pace all year, he probably carries the ball fifty times. That's not a lot for especially for a guy that can move. It's a freak accident. The dude he was basically he was a running back in college, Like, he carried the ball fifteen times a game in college, and he's carried it a lot as a pro, and nothing like this

had ever happened. It's a freak injury. It sucks, but it shouldn't change the way you feel about him. He won you a playoff game with his ability to run, you know. I mean, would you take that away, the you know, the third and eleven scramble that gets you down to the goal line to put a playoff game away? I wouldn't. And honestly, I freaking loved that play call because typically we see the quarterback draw down near the goal line to break that out outside of the red zone,

and it got them into the red zone. I thought it was fantastic and it sucks what happened, but I wouldn't let it change anything about the way that I use DAK. Yeah, you mentioned Nick Russell Wilson, and I think I agree with you, Dave. But here's why I agree. I think that there's still gonna run him the same. Where I think there will be a difference is I think there will be an increased emphasis on don't take

hits if a guy's coming slide. And I think if you watch Russell Wilson, that's one thing you notice about his game. It is very, very extremely rare that Russell Wilson takes a hit when he's outside of the pockets scrambling. Typically, when he gets running down field, he gets as much as he can possibly get and then he gets down and he's I think one of the best in the league at he gets he maximizes the run, but once he gets to a point where he's about to take

a hit, he gets down, he takes the slide. I do think that in future, what we might see in future years for Dak is that the team is really focused on Dak, get the yards. We want you to keep you that that part of your game. Don't take the unnecessary hits. So if you see him coming, get down and we'll live to fight another day. David, you have something, yes, which I'm I'm stealing this point. I

think that's such a good point. I don't remember who said this, but the two best quarterbacks in the league right now at running for yards and not taking hits Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray. What did they both do? They both played baseball. Ye, So, Dak, maybe when you're healthy, hire a base running coach to teach you the final I'm not kidding. I would have absolutely gets get somebody to teach me how to slide. And just do it real nice and maybe you can avoid some of that concept.

So that Quincey's problem, Quincy Cartner too much slide. It's a baseball got a right, Hutchinson. We had a lot of baseball players around here. They were not sliding. That was the deal. They were great throwers, just didn't slide.

Do you have Amber I was gonna add that. The way I see it is that if they are able to get a more consistent offense and be able to get what they have been getting in that second half of the game, just more throughout the game from beginning to end, I think that that the Cowboys have enough to where they don't really need to be getting Dak running as much. Yes, in special place like that, it's helpful. Dak has made some really important place carrying the ball.

But at the same time, you have a running game and running back that when they limit their mistakes, you have both the running game in the passing game to where you don't necessarily need to be running your running back. You're running back running your quarterback as much. Yeah, that's

how I see. It's just such a mismatch because unless you're gonna put a spy on him, which if that gets to that point where they're starting to spy him, you know, then with the way he can throw it, man, that's that that's exactly what you want, you know, because once, once, if Lamar Jackson gets to the point where he's just absolutely killing people with his arm, which he's getting there, I mean, MVP, Yeah, I mean, what I'm just saying is is that that's how dangerous is you don't want

to put a spy on him. That's why I agree it'd be great to have balance and not have to do it. But if they're if the linebacker is gonna cheat this way or this way because you got all these weapons, sometimes the best play is up the middle. Yeah, And I honestly believe it's one of the best things he does now. I think he's a really great passer. But I also think he has the ability, and he goes back to what he did in college, he has the ability to see opportunities to be able to take

a run. I don't want to take that away from his game. I just want him to be smarter about Hey know, when the riot is over and go down, there's no point in taking the unnecessary hit. And I think that's the area where they can probably improve him a bit. All Right, we're gonna take our final bike. We will come back. I want to talk a little bit about special teams. They had some issues this last game that continues to be a problem for this team.

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result of NAC not being here. I want to talk about special teams because specialty has been an issue for this team really more than this season. It's been going back a couple of years now, and they still haven't seemed to get it right. This last game, they got a costly penalty of twelve men on the field that ended up giving the Giants and opportunity at a field goal and they end up taking the three points. John fossil went asked about it earlier this week, he said,

it's my job. I'm usually pretty good at math. It will be an easy fix. It's not going to happen again. My issue is like, that's just one issue. Yeah, get it right. As far as the count, that shouldn't happen. But it seems like all of these issues tend to be matters of either coordination, poor coordination, or just guys not really knowing what they're doing. So my question for you guys is this is a problem that by the way, last year they were having the similar issues on special teams.

At what point do you start to say you've changed the coach. Maybe it's not the coach, maybe it's the players. Nicko, let's start with you, Well, you know, I think you know, I'm not going to give excuses here, but when you have a lot of injuries, that this is going to happen because you're you're calling up players on Saturday to

come up and play. They Stephen Parker or somebody he was on the practice squad and then all of a sudden he comes up and he plays in the game, and so it's like yeah, yeah, and then you get an injury in the game and now you're trying to figure out who's coming in, so that that definitely happens. I'm not you know, I don't know if I've ever said this, but like I never buy in the fact of like, well, football is about three phases. It's offense, defense,

special teams. That's that's crap. That's not the case. Teams don't do that. Teams don't emphasize special teams like they do the others. If they did, they'd play their best players and play their starters. They don't. So this is what you get. You have to try to practice better within the game. I mean, within the week, you have to. You have to get the philosophy down better. But you know, when you get injuries like this, this stuff happens. I don't blame the players as much as I blame the

coaches on all that stuff. Though, like I said, there's twenty eight coaches out there. Somebody needs to figure out and see, oh man, there's Evan Ingram standing there by himself. Maybe we should call time out. And by the way, I don't know if we mentioned this, Camp Fleming was the guy that got the fenalty that that negated that touchdown.

It wasn't the guy they called on the field. Cam Fleming was a left tackle and the fans that are watching this probably saw because Romo of course pointed out he points out everything Cam Fleming was the one that wouldn't down in his stance and they threw it to Evan Ingram, and so that would they might have fired the coach if that happened. And you give up a touchdown on special teams on a fake like that, Yeah, yeah, Dave,

I think it was. Yeah, it was last year in Chicago, I believe, or maybe it was Buffalo, like one of the first examples we got. Oh, no, it was probably it was probably New Engling, if I had to get master. Jerry Jones was straight up like, special teams is purely a reflection of coaching. That's all it is, because, and to Nick's point, the good players don't even play. The starters aren't on your special teams, so anybody can do it. So I refuse to believe it's about the players, it's all.

I mean, twelvem in on the field, Yeah, I mean you you would like to think Cedric Wilson could like do some quick math and make sure it's all right. But the five coaches in charge of that, or you know, take Tony Pollard to side and say, hey, you've had some problems, so they're probably going to try to do

this to you. Maybe be ready for it, which he was last week, to be fair, but all of the like, all of this stuff is just coaching and attention to detail, and they haven't had it through these these first five weeks.

That's for sure. Amber coaches are players, which is well to Dave's point, it's so disappointing because one of the main guys that we've talked about a law during the off season was Fastile and the experience, the amount of experience that he has and the success that he had in the past, so coming in, my expectations were really really high, and I was expecting Special Teams to have

this drastic change and it hasn't happened. And the way I see it again, I've never played football in my life, so all I get to do is sit back and watch from afar. But Special Teams doesn't seem that complicated to me. Yes, you need a certain set of skills, but it seems that the mistakes that they've been making so far are mistakes that are just going back to basics and communication and just having everyone on the same

page and having everyone know what their role is. So I hope that it's something that they can actually fix, because that's how I see. I see those things as very fixable. But it hasn't happened yet, so it must be a lot more complicated than the way I see it. But I think it does go back to coaching at this point, so which is a bigger problem for them right now. Special teams are defense defense, Dave defense defense, I mean special team you're talking. You're talking about like

eighteen snaps a game, verse eighty. Um. I mean, if the defense was great, I'll live with the special team's miscuse which one's more correctable? Special team? Special teams were counting, you know, I mean, you just get the count right, right, you figure it out, you catch the ball, you know, you mean some of them. But but I'll say this about special teams and teams are figuring this out. I kind of wish the Cowboys would do the same. They

did a couple of times. But the way the rules are set up now, I mean, it's funny how the NFL's trying for there not to be a kickoff and teams are like, oh, we're gonna kick it all. Yeah, they'll figure it out. So and they are. Then they're figuring out what the Cowboys, I mean, Tony Pollard is gonna be catching this this this kick at the one yard line now, and so it's a it's a pooch kick. He's gonna have to get it, and they're gonna have to block, and I mean it's it's gonna push him back.

And they're gonna do that even more with Dandy Dalton here now, I mean they're gonna say, hey, let's put them back at the eighteen yard line, you know. So they're gonna have to figure that out specials. But I still think it's more correct. All right, we appreciate you guys. Join us. We're back tomorrow. We're gonna start jumping into the next game. What we got up next? Cowboys versus Cardinals Monday Night Football. Yes, we got Cardinals babies, Monday

Night Football. We'll start talking about the Cardinals offense tomorrow. Well, Bucky Brooks, you join us till then. For Nick Eatman, Dave Helm and Amber Garcia. I am Derek and this has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.