Cowboys Break: Continuity Matters

edition of The Break. We're live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, presenter by Milla like the only Beer of the Dallas Cowboys. And for a second day in a row, I've got a Esha Morrison, I've got Buried Church joining me. I Hesa's from Girls Talk Boys Talk Berries from Players Lounge and as we're doing throughout all of our podcasts from Mixed It Up this week. And uh, I think we had a really good show yesterday. I told those folks on them on the Break that

you did that with me. I was like, y'all, might y'all might want to check this out, like your seats your seats are yes, you know, we got some people over here doing some good stuff. So we're gonna finish that today. We're gonna actually get into more of that mid year review. We got some more questions for you guys. Questions had me last night at home thinking I could I could have I could, Yeah, I could have. I sec It was the Quinn that one for me. It

hurt me, hurt me. The funny thing is, that's why I don't send the rundown for stuff like this, is because I want to get you. I want to get your your opinion without you having to put it through a filter. I want to get exactly what's on your mind in the moment. And uh, and that's what I got yesterday, Riddler vibes. So we got some of that, and then we also will get some questions. So if you guys want to send some questions, you can hit me on Twitter send some questions, and you can also

call us. We might get some of those in the third segment. Eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven is our number. Let's start first with Yesterday was the day that the NFL I had this deadline for trades. Uh, it went, came and went, and the Cowboys, no how disappointed were you guys that the Cowboys didn't make a move? I can't. I don't know. I guess I was a little like disappointed just because of all

the conversation. But then like when I rationalized it, I was like, all right, I mean because you gotta get over it. I mean, like there's nothing a deadliness, a deadline, right, So at this point, I'm like, all right, this is what you got. Let's keep working like us. That's how I work. Sorry, without I was slightly disappointed as well, especially you know, after I heard all the you know, Brandon Cooke situation going on between the Cowboys and the Texans and how it came down to the last minute.

Not sure if that really how it went down, but I was slightly disappointed because we talked about it yesterday. And you know, with these wide receivers, Okay, you got CD Lamb, but if anything, you know, God forbid anything ever were to happen to CD Lamb, I mean that wide receiver corp. You're talking about, Noah Brown, you know, a gallup coming off acl Turpin who hasn't really you know ingratiated himself into this offense yet, so to me, you know, Cooks would have been that perfect guy to

come in here and do things. But it went, and it came, and it went and nothing happened. So I guess they're satisfied with what they got on the outside, and hopefully this team can take the most, uh, you know, the most of it. Yeah. I think that's the key right there, is if everything goes according to plan, if everybody stays healthy, then you might be okay. That's that's the part that worries me. You got a lot of ifs,

and then you might be okay. Um and and and so you just at this point, you're just crossing your fingers and hoping that these guys stay healthy. You're hoping that they continue to build on that development that they've or some of that that success that they saw last week. You hope that these tight ends stay healthy as well, because they supplement that wide receiving corps um and that's a good I think there. They are strength of this team. So you're you're hoping on a lot of things. Hope

it's not a strategy. Open on a lot of things right now, and we'll see how it goes down the stretch. It's really interesting because when you start thinking about the NFC, and we're gonna talk about this a little later. One of the questions I have for you guys what you think about the NFC. And people talk to say it's wide open. I don't know that it's necessarily wide open, because you do have some teams right there at the

top that are pretty good. Trying to be Philadelphia is going to be a challenge, Minnesota is going to be a challenge. And I tend to believe one of those teams, whether it's Green Bay, Tampa Bay, somebody we're not talking about right now, it has one of those all world quarterbacks is gonna get hot at some point the figure it out, right, And does Green Bay get hot the week you play them next week? Right? So there are

all those things you gotta factor into this. And I just don't think the NFC is just as wide open as everybody says it is. It may not be as top heavy as as AFC, where you got those two top teams there, but it's definitely has some challenges and the Cowboys are gonna need some help to get there. I think, without a doubt, like you said, it's not as wide open as people would come to think about it because there's some bad matchups for the Cowboys, and I can think of three off the top of my head.

You're looking at Philly, who they've already gone against. They can run the ball extremely well, and we all know that's kind of the Achilles heel of this Dan and Quinn defense is allowing the rush. I think they're what twentieth or twenty first in the league against the run, so they gotta fix that. So Philly to me, is a bad matchup. Then you also look at what they're

doing in Minnesota. They got Delvin Cook out there. Kirk Cousins is having one of his best seasons as a professional so far, so to me, that's a bad matchup as well. And they can play defense a little bit over that they can't get after the exactly and a team that's you know right now, they're in the middle. But I think they're gonna catch a little bit. It's a San Francisco forty nine year they had last year, and they got CMC out there. He's starting to do

his thing. They can run the football as well, and they're a hard nosed defense. We've seen that gives the Cowboys problems in the past, so it's not as wide open as you would think. There's some teams that have bad matchups for the Dallas Cowboys. Let's look forward to see what they can do against them. Now, you definitely name some of the teams that I've been looking at and just kind of how when you start when you look at Minnesota, forty nine ers know who they are,

they have an identity. You look at Minnesota, they look like they're starting to find their identity again because offensively, I feel like they've been very up and down the last couple of years. And then also too you start talking about green Bay in those places. I mean, granted, I right now when you look at what's happening with some of these teams that they also are in this place where their wide receivers are young and they're trying

to develop their team. So you are looking to see if they start figuring things out later in the season as you know, these players develop. But when you start talking about getting into December, it's about to start looking crazy for a lot of teams, because when it gets cold,

a lot more guys get injured. Like your muscles feel different, your body feel different, like when it starts getting cold, and those like also when you start talking about the Cowboys in the November, you know, they have that stretch where it's like what like three games like twentelve days

or something like that. So health I think in this time of the year is what's going to really start making the difference with what we're going to see this NFC shape out too, because everything's grave with a lot of these teams right now. All nobody heard everybody fine, yeah, okay, let's see in a couple of weeks of seeing a couple of weeks with everything is starting to pan out to look like yeah, and let's not forget about Seattle as well. I forgot to throw them. It's up there.

He's doing. Nobody expected it. That's why nobody's talking about it. But they are quietly. They got a good defense. Their defense is good. Geno's playing good ball. Obviously, he's got those two receivers out there. They also can run the ball like this. There's a lot of things about that team that should make you a little bit concerned. DA Dallas Cowboys, let me ask you guys this question. Last week, the Cowboys make their move as far as a trade

is concerned. They get Jonathan Hankins and I think we all agreed Jonathan Hankins was a nice additional for the team. Do you think we'd have a different opinion of what they did at the deadline if they'd have made that move yesterday as opposed to last week. No, people are still because well I'm not talking about general fans, because general fans they're never gonna be happy. We know that they're not gonna be happy. We know that. You ask him,

I'm saying, I'm saying, you guys, would would you? And both you guys said you were a little disappointed. I also was a little disappointed yesterday they to make a move. But would you have felt differently if Hankins would have happened yesterday? I mean maybe, I guess. I mean, because they're addressing they are actively addressing a need, like a

real obviously a real need. So it's like but I guess, I mean, obviously everyone is looking for hoping for that that splash player or or a player offensively, I think most of the worry here is offense rather for most people, So the addition to the defense would be like it was great, Like I think it's fantastic, but I think obviously, like though I receive position is what people are worried

about right now. No doubt, I think I would have felt a little bit better if it happened like now, because it happened, you know, it happened, you know, last week, and we're thinking, I know it's early, you know, just being here, we're thinking, Okay, he's gonna come in here and make an immediate impact for this rush defense. He came in there, and Chicago still put up two hundred forty yards on the ground. But yeah, but you know, and I saw this, I'll throw this out. Michael Gelkin

covers the Cowboys for Dallas Morning News. He put out an interesting tweet and I thought it was really really well done because what he said in the tweet was basically he broke down the number of plays when Hankins was on the field versus when not, and when Hankins was on the field, they average three point five yards per carry. And he had kind of this video montage you put together the different plays that Hankins was out there. Yeah, he wasn't was nothing coming through there, like he was

manning that middle of that defense. Teams that like we talked about yesterday, like it's good for them to be putting out like this better tape. I think it's going to be important for people to see that if you don't, if you don't double team him, I mean lights out, because he's definitely he has the ability to get off of off of blocks and definitely get in there and

make tackles. Yeah, and the question becomes how much can he take right if he is, if he's getting if the number of snaps that he got this last game is indicative of what he's going to get down the stretch, and that still leaves you exposed quite a bit because, as you said, they still put up two hundred and forty yards. Right. If you think you can increase that and he's actually going to be out there a lot more,

now you can feel like, okay, it's a Cowboys. You can feel like, Okay, we might solve this problem because we know with time he'll get more snaps, and with more snaps, we think our run defense will be a lot better. Otherwise, teams will just say, when Hangins is out there, we're not gonna run as much exactly, And when he's on the sideline, hey load him up, let's go,

let's get on. And that's the thing, you know, can he be you know, I'm not looking for him to be a three down lineman because you know, every down, you know, the pass rush and all that stuff. I understand that they're gonna be some rotation in there, but can he be a first and second down run stopper for the entirety of the game. That's what it's gonna

come down to. Conditioning wise. Is he gonna be able to take that beating because being a big body in there, he's there to basically make sure those offensive linemen don't get to the second level and gobble up and running lads. So he's gonna be taking hits left and right from double teams, all types of stuff trying to move him out of the way. Can he take that punishment for the entirety of the game and for the rest of the season. I mean, the jewelry is still out on that.

But for him, like you said, three point five yards of rush while he's in there, that's huge for this rush defense overall. Well, I also think that takes some pressure off of Bohannah, who's been playing you know a lot more knows I guess, than what he would normally do. Not having a trip like a true nose in there

right now makes a difference. So I would wonder if they're gonna be able to find some packages that work, you know, with Bohanna there and maybe Nevill next to him to kind of put some more size in there if he's not out there middle right. It is absolutely but like when you're talking about the run defense, that's the biggest concern. But I do, like I said, like teams, teams should see that running up the middle when he's there is probably gonna not probably not gonna be your

best bab You might want to run it. Yeah, he might just be the best two gap guy you got on this team. The decision making. Yeah, and you just saw you saw it on some of those plays. But I mean he's on the right side, he's showing right and then they go left and he immediately flashes left and he's right there in the way right. It's and and for a big guy, uh and in the number of times he's taking double team, so he's doing everything you want a traditional big guy in the middle, one

technique type guy to be able to do. He's doing it. He showed that in that last games. Question is how much can they use him? How often can he be on the field, and when he's all off, how much is the decline if he's off? And I love the addition because you know he's a vetting he understands his role. You know a lot of guy's going there. I'm getting after the password. I gotta get this sack, I get these numbers up. So you're not really doing what you're

supposed to do as a unit. But this guy, he understands. Like you said, he's sitting there holding that too gap. Let me shed this guy to the right, let me shed this guy to the left. I'm not necessarily concerned with getting too much upfield to get after the quarterback because a lot of times that's what happens in the run defense. You see guys, just all my ears are pent back. Let me get after this pass Russer, and that creates lanes for the running back to get through.

If you got a guy like Hankinson there that understands his responsibility, understands how to play as a unit, it should prove huge dividends for this defensive line and his defense overall. I think that's important too. Like I'm sorry if at that point I think that's important too. When

you talk about the locker room. You got a lot of young players on a defensive one right, and so this is actually something that I heard Tank talking about a one or five point three defense, just you know, mentioning let the gap, integrity and stuff like that, and guys kind of chasing you know, in some of our words, chasing sacks and just you know. So I think it's important that he's coming in here and he's kind of set.

He sets the tone, sets the precedence for Hey, this is this is your responsibility, this is what you play. We talked about just bringing veterans and how Jason Peters, you know, with the left tack with the left tackle Tyler Smith. I think it's a similar situation with this young DT room for him to come in here and be like, play your assignment, like to show what playing your assignment does and how consistently have what that does for you and your team. And he's got the skins

on the wall. I've been here ten years tracking you can do this, and you can play for a long time in this league doing your job. You don't have to have the sacks. You can do your job and the play a long time. Yeah. And two gapping is not an easy technique to just gather. I mean, honestly, we saw in twenty twenty one and when guys were two gapping it was late struggle, right, so it's like, hey, um, for him to come in here and do that, well,

it's going to be important for this team. So yeah, all right, one other thing I wanted to hit real quick before we take our break. Cowboys did make a move yesterday they released Tristan Hill. You got surprised at all by that move, honestly, so listen, this is a dope thing, says y'all know I'm new here, so like on my YouTube in like March, I said, like, you know, Triston Hills, I ain't this tank. I ain't because the ferocity he plays with the motor, all that stuff points

to like what dan Quinn still like. And I think that's why he continued to try to, you know, developing everything. But I was surprised. I was like, dang, I was. I was like, dang, it was. It was kind of random. But then I thought about it. It makes sense given you know what's going on at the DT position. Obviously you're trying to get more size in there, trying to really stop the run. Tristan is more of a you know, pass rush guy, you know, get up for your guy,

really aggressive guy. So to when it made sense because you get so much pass rush, like maybe you're not really looking for a lot of pass rush from your DTS right now, So the move made sense. It's still with shocking to me in some degree. To some degree, Yeah, without a daughter, it definitely made sense. And you know, I wasn't too surprised by this because if you look at it, even though you know Tristan Hill was having

a great start to his young career. If you look at what he's done in three and a half years with the Dallas Cowboys, I mean thirty three tackles and a half a sack. You know, with that type of production and as deep as this defensive line is, it's going to be hard for him to get on the field. And with that being said, you know, hey, I mean hopefully you know he finds you know, where he's going, you know, after the Cowboys, but with that type of production,

it's going to be hard to crack the lineup. Yeah, and I don't think he ever really fulfilled what they expected out of him being a second round pick. I think there are expectations where that he would be way more involved, way more productive, as you were talking about,

than he's been. So again, when you're talking about a room that's deep, when you're talking about a defensive line that's deep, when you talk about defensive lineman, now that might be coming back here soon in Terrell Basham Like, there's a lot of things that you have to consider, and I just think that it just was you know, hey, this is just the way we have to go because that's where we are with this player and different regime.

I mean that matters, Like I mean, it matters like when you start looking at you know, this locker room, a lot of these guys are are guys that have been drafted here, like in this last couple. So I just feel like it's I think it mattered that he came from a different regime and the way that dan Quinn plays defense as way he's teaching. So maybe they just, like I said, maybe they want to just beef up in the middle and go about their business. Yeah, all right,

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Is the first one the player who has been who who has been newly added that will provide the most for the team down the stretch. On the defense, the options are Jonathan Hankins or Damon Clark Barnacles. Well one bee gets the other. Yeah, okay, you can choose one. Putting you on the spot, Tater Tids, what's more important? Right, no one, I'm trying to think what's more important right

at this point in time, I think was it? Maybe it doesn't make sense football wise, but I think was hurting you more right now with plays downfield and making your cornerbacks having to come up and tackle in places where maybe they shouldn't be having to tackle. Is the linebacker position. Okay, So Damon clark Field, Yeah, okay, I love that. I love that decision because, like we talked about yesterday, you know, Elvie bar I love what they're

doing out there. They're solid, they're playing well side line of sideline, but at that point of attack, I just don't see it, you know, I just see the leaky yard is. You know we saw the other day with Montgomery. You know, he made a heck of a tackle on open field, but you know, if Montgomery doesn't follow that, he's falling forward for extra three four yards. And I've seen too much of that. But with that being said, I gotta go with Hankins. I gotta go with Hankins

out here. And we get we just talked about it. How when he's on the field, his presence in the run game is outstanding. You know, he's, like you said, he's shedding blockers out there, stuff in these run lanes, making sure these offensive linemen aren't getting to the second level to go against our second level defenders lve Bar when you get those walk down safeties, Curse and Wilson.

As a former safety, I'm telling you, when you get down there and you got a clear view of everything, it makes your job a heck of a lot easier because when you got those offensive linemen coming up at you, your first initial thought is you gotta avoid. Because you're a smaller guy, you gotta avoid, and that creates an even bigger lane for the runner to do that. So I gotta go with Hankins. He's keeping those offensive linemen off our second level defenders, and hopefully he can do

that for the remainder of this season. Well, you know, here's the interesting thing. If Damon Clark ends up being what he was projected to be, I'm frank then and then I think Damon Clark may actually provide more because I think if he can become that, he is in every down type we talk about this year or like in a few But that's what I'm saying. I don't know, and I don't know how fast he can he can acquiesce that. What I will tell you is this is

a guy. We noticed this back during training camp obviously he was. He was not playing, was not practicing at all. He was over on the sideline. I don't think I've ever seen a player do this. He was on the sideline during training camp practices, watching the defense and kind of mimicking what he would be doing in these situations.

He is taking mental reps while he is not going to play for six seven weeks, but he's taking mental reps in training camp practices and literally working his body and trying to get muscle memory for Okay, on this play, I see this, I do this. This is how I react. This I respond, And that that spoke volumes to me. And by the way, it might not be a big deal, but to me, what it said was, this is one of those guys that just loves the game. He just

loves the game. And when you find players who just love the game, I have a feeling like, if they've got the talent, then that's the ones that become really really cold out of down because they will pour everything they got into And you talked. We talked to him, and we talked to Micah after the game, and both of them were talking about their relationship and how their relationships started. You meet after he got draft, he hit up Mike and he's like, hey, man, I want to

get on your wing. You know, I need to know what's going on, you know, And he can't. He's not even gonna be playing, but he's already and Mica said, you know, and we're always, you know, spending time. He's all he's And Michael was the one that said he loves the game. He just loves football. So when you start thinking about it from that perspective, I'm like, I'm not gonna put anything past daman Clark, and the talent

certainly is there. I think he's a guy that most draft analists said would have been a first second round pick, but not for the injury. So I'm looking at Dad and saying, you know, Barb might be he might want to hurry him get back. Oh yeah, because because the more time he's out, the more time this young buck has an opportunity to maybe step in there and show

him something. And again, one of the things about him that you know is he was in What they talked about is in pre draft was not only is he good at stopping run, as far as a tackler getting to the ball sideline, the sideline He's also good at coverage, so again, he becomes a player that maybe is out there on every single down. If he can get to that level this year, toward the end of this year, even that's gonna be as valuable as any other thing

on this team, especially if he's a playmaking type linebacker. Yeah, he's early. I mean he's I mean, like to our I guess to our standards in our minds, like he's early. But I think that is a testament of his work ethic. I talked about on our show, shout at him out like, can't discount like this his work ethic and how he got here. But when you look at his history, I mean, I don't know a whole bunch about LSU because I don't listen. I'm just not getting the college ball, y'all.

Don't get Brian starts, you guys. But you know from my knowledge and wearing a number eighteen, it's a big deal. So absolutely so when you started looking at LSU, some of the great players we've seen come out of that that college in his last couple of years, especially, hey man, you gotta think like it's not just about the football, right, So I'm not surprised by that, the fact that he was even doing that. I'm also not surprised at this fact that he out there because people are spoken so

highly of him. I took a deep dive after we drafted him out the Cowboys drafting him and to his character. But I do, I do agree with you that this guy is like his right now, he's just playing instinctively. He's just you know, but dan Quinn I think even talked about No, not dan Quinn, it was George Edwards talked about him even you know, reading some things correctly that maybe he wasn't they maybe they didn't expect for him to just know already, but that lets you know

he's in his books. I think the processing is something that he's gonna work on and continue. And because he's kind of early, he has almost half of a season possibly to come in and start getting those mental reps. And who better, who better to be paired with than Mica. It sounds like they're like minded because it's one thing that Micah talks about his love for footba ball and he talks about it being played the right way, you know,

the correct way. So I think that it's interesting that Mica is an example out here like for what players want to be. So I'm excited to see those guys together. I didn't know that. That's good to know that they are already a gel in and connecting like that. And another thing to note, I don't know if you guys

saw it. I saw a tweet earlier this week. I can't remember who it was from, but they said that next gen stats had him running in this last game had the moon Clark running at I think twenty two points, so he can rouse pours the fastest that any player on the Cowboys has running this season. That that tells you a lot. And Michael even said, you know how competitive Mike is. He's like, yeah, he's fast to me, like he even admitted it. And that's that demon Clark

can run. So you get a linebacker that can really run once they figure it out and the game slows down a little bit before them, look out, man, I'm telling you this is gonna be. This is going to be quite a pick for the Cowboys. And I don't know if you're going to see the full extent of it this year or wait till next year, but at some point this was gonna pay off. I think you'd love to see it. And what makes that quality you

talk about is him being, you know, a learner. He's coachable out there and he loves to learn and everything like that. Because there's some guys like myself when I was playing, I treated it like a job, like this is my job. I liked football, but I wasn't in love with football. And there's other guys that go from good to great like Shanley. He was entrenched in football like he took it here, he took it home. He was everywhere football. It was his life was football, and

that's what made him so great. So hopefully, you know, Damon Clark, he can have those same characteristics where I love the game, I want to learn about the game. I wanted to be a part of me twenty four to seven, and it sounds like he has that mentality already. All right, next question for you guys. If Tyler Smith, I'm sorry, Tyron Smith returns in December, who would be your starting five offensive linemen? There you go, don't just

be starting at Tyren Smith. Tyren's back. If he's back in December, my starting offensive line will be Tyler Smith at the left guard, McGovern at the u left guard, I'm sorry Tyler Smith at the left tackle, MC ever have to left guard, But yall just had the center, Zach Martin att right guard, and Terrence still at the right tackle. So Tyron is not getting a job back. No,

he's not getting his job back. And the reason I say that is because by that time this unit will have already jailed and they're playing good football right now. As you see they're protecting Dak Prescott out there. They're moving people out of the way for this running game to get going. I understand the player that Tyren Smith is when he's healthy, He's a heck of a player,

Hall of fame resume. I get all that. But as this unit they're jailed right now, I don't want to see because that's gonna be a rotation in an offensive line. You can't really have a rotation like that, like I hated when they had Peter's rotating in from a government like. Let the guy get established in the game, let him get that momentum, let him understand how the play callings going, and get a feel for the game. When you guys rotate like that, it gets people, you know, out of whack.

You know, I can see if it was a D line because D line you got a rotate. You gotta get fresh bodies in there to get after the quarterback. But there's some units where you don't need to rotate. Into me, safety, you don't need to rotate. Secondary like corner, no rotation, Linebacker, no rotation, offensive line, no rotation. To me, stick with the unit that's getting things done. When you add a guy like Tyren Smith in there, I understand, hall of fame resume, like I said, but I just

think it'll mess up the jail a little bit. And these guys right now, they're understanding the strengths and the weaknesses of each other. All right, I gotta help this guy on this play because you know he's not as strong here, or I gotta make sure this guy has my back because I'm kind of weak in this situation. They understand each other's strengths and weaknesses out there, and I think if you add Tyren Smith in there on a rotation basis, I just think it'll mess up the

whole continuity, all the offensive line. So I understand he's a Hall of Fame player, but to me, keep that unit going. They're playing pretty well right now. Yeah, it's the struggle of the conversation of best five right now, right now. And I do think Cowboys got some some road games coming up here later in the season that I think the communication and stuff is gonna matter on

this offensive line. And when you do start talking about continuity again, like I think that is important moving into some of this latter's part of your season, when you're going to be going to places like a Lambo and all these like it's it's loud in these places. And so also I think that was a problem when you start looking back at last year. I think that was a problem that arises in the forty nine Ers game, is that the offensive line there was communication errors everywhere,

and I think that was a product. I think the false starts and the mistakes were a product of a lot of miscommunication. And also when you start talking about your offensive line, it's not just about the offensive line, it's about your quarterback too. And your quarterback is just now getting back and starting to jail with these guys and get that cadence together and get that time in together. So I also do worry about you know them coming in.

We'll bring in Tyler, Tyler tying in and Tyler being moved. I still I don't know. I still think it's still a possibility just because of the seniority that's involved in stuff. But I agree with you Barry that if you don't want to break up that continuity this is that probably is the best bet to just keep Tyler where he is and have mccover in there. But how do you find way? Do you find ways to get Tyrant on the front? They're going to find a way, I will

tell you this. And you heard Jerry Jones. He was on one or five to three the Fan earlier this week, and I heard him say when they asked him about Tyron Smith, he said, look, you know, try it's hard to think. And actually it might have been Steven now I think about it, but it was one of the two of them. And they say, it's hard to imagine that Tyrant Smith is not one of your top five offensive linemen. So he's gonna play football, is what we

would expect. Now. And here's the deal I do expect because of being around here so long and seeing how things are typically done, it would be I would be shocked if Tyrn doesn't come back and get his job at because I just think they kind of operate like that around here. Now. I agree with you, Barry. I don't think it's necessarily the right answer. And the reason

why I don't is more so about the future. If you're if you know Tyrant is not your long term answer, which I think everybody agrees that that's probably the case. He's towards the end of his career, and you've now identified the solution, like you've already had done to fight it. He is playing well now, he's out perfect. I get that, but he's playing well. I don't want to sit that guy down. I kind of want to get him out

there now. There's also the convention of the wisdom that sometimes people say, well, sometimes a young guy can learn after he's played some sitting down a little bit sometimes can give him a chance to kind of take his breath and learn even more from the sideline. And and and I don't know if that I necessarily buy that when you're talking about an offensive lineman, m So for me, I would rather just keep the guy going. And I'll also throw on this other little thing. Going back to

training camp this year, I don't think. I don't think Tyrone was playing as we know Tyron And if Tyron comes back and he's not the Pro Bowl tyrant after weeks. Yeah, if he's, if he's the guy that that we saw during training camp, I don't know that I want to go to that from what Tyler is doing right now, to stop Tyler's development, that's not worth it to me in my opinion. Yeah, but no, no, no, no, I agree. I did. I guess I've thought about that, but I hadn't.

I didn't think to bring it up. It's the fact that like, yeah, Tyring, when you looked at him in camp, like it it wasn't always, Um, it wasn't always what you expect to see from Tyring. And then also too again like this is an extension of what some of the things we saw later last year as well. So I just I want to be fair to the rook

and his development and what he is doing. Um. And like you talked, like we talked about Barry, it matters going into the latter part of the season that your left tack was confident also, like you want him to be confident and that you well, yeah, you wanted to be confident in his ability, um, And so I don't want to diminish that also by bringing in and just giving him a spot back, like, just is that how we work here? Na? Look, I thought it was a meritocracy,

but well you know that. And that's actually interesting point because if Tony Romo can lose his job to injury, anybody can lose. But know what's gonna happen. Ry, come on, I don't want it to happen, but you know he's gonna get his spot. But I have a hard time thing he's not. I really do. See was that last year the man you in self inflicting five games off? Terrence Steele is playing great ball all of a sudden,

boot he's back in the lineup. If you're if you're one of those favorites, they're gonna find a way to put you in the lineup. And look, I don't think it's the right thing to do, but we all know what's gonna happen. He's gonna slide in there on some type of rotational basis and it might mess up the continuity, but that's what that's what it is, what it is, And let's also sorry, sorry if it makes sense in

some packages, I'm not gonna complain about it. But at the same time, I don't know I guess it just depends on what you're who you're playing, and what it's what, what how Kelly uses him if he does, if it's just a situational thing. But I think that the starting five should stayed away. But you know, we as we also have to remember too that and this is being fair to the coaches and the front office. Sometimes hard to get past history when you have history with a

guy where you know him to be great. And Tyren Smith for his career here has been great. I mean, and there there have been some situations where he played through injuries and was still great, and so it's hard sometimes to get your mind to get past this guy isn't great anymore. Like's you just keep saying, look, he might have some struggles here or there, but I still know this guy is being great, and so it is harder.

And that's why I think sometimes you see the vet come back, and the Vet's gonna get his job, because the coaches the front office still look at him and say, and this guy, he's just I've seen him be great, and I trust the fact that he's gonna be great. And until they are proven wrong, beyond the shadow of doubt, they're gonna keep rolling with the fact that he's gonna

be great. So and by the way, let's also be clear, I'm not saying that Tyren Smith will come back and all of a sudden he's given up three four sacks a game. That's not gonna be the case. Tyren Smith will be a good player. I just don't know if for a good player, I'm willing to stop the progress of my rookie. I would need him to be great for me to want to stop the progress my rookie, and I'm not sure he's that anymore. Yeah, And like we talked about it in camp. You know, Tyler Smith

got all his REPSITT guard everything I guard. They just threw him in the fire and he's doing an excellent job in my opinion at that left tackle position. So you know, why would you block that, you know, for for a guy who's you know, on his last leg. We understand how he's dealt with a lot of injuries. And for the goal that you guys are going for, like you're going for that long one, you're trying to

make it to the super Bowl. I think continuity matters, and that offensive line matters, and if you try to next with that going into the playoffs. I think it could be a detrimental to your team. I think it's funny weak. I think it's funny. We've been begging for a tiring, like a tiring, a backup or replacement for years now, like, hey, you need to draft another left tackle just in case, you know, just in cases because

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the week. Who will not have shows for the rest of this week? Sad? Yeah, I'm kind of sad, but also I'm kind of looking forward to a few days of enjoying. Yeah. I plan to literally get into my recliner and plant myself there for like three days not a recliner. What you got? What kind of relos? The name of it? I have no idea. Something to wife, but like she handles all that kind of stuff. It is. Yeah, I will watch Texas. I will watch that. Actually, look yeah,

look look at me. My team has not disappointing me this year because I don't have expectations. Okay, I arned. I don't go into the season of the expectations. I'm just like I will enjoy every game as a standalone thing. And so this weekend I'm looking forward to another standalone opportunity to watch my too hard to do though, Like when you watch it now when you don't have now, when you don't have expectations, but do you really not have?

Like yes? And I like literally me and my buddies will text each other like, man, you're watching this, I'm watching this. Yeah you're upset. Yeah I'm upset. But I also promised myself I'm not gonna let teenage just dictate my move. There you go there. When this game is over, if I'm sit back, I'm gonna be like, man, they messed that one up. Oh well, went on. I did it for years. I did it for years though I did it for years. I let it. I let them. They would have me hot for a whole week. I

can't do it. That was them right right here. They grown. I'm letting kids dictate my move like no out. Yeah, I'm not doing enough together, I'm not doing that. All right, let's back here. We got some more questions to be you guys. I hope you excuse man, I hope you get K state, the tut K state, not the Oklahoma stake. Yeah, I know, I know that I'm worried about Hope defense. Yeah, exactly, and we do sometimes other times it can be a problem, but Dudu's fun serious like he is a problem. Blow

So we'll say Chris, it'll be fun. Yeah, shout out Chris. All right, So, um, here's the next question for you guys. More important for the second half of the season and the post these season stopping the run on the defense or offensively scoring thirty points plus per game? Ain't that what the Chiefs knowing? Yeah, and that's what I'm saying, Like both neither one of them are things we're consistently

doing that we're consistently seeing here with the Cowboys. So which one do you think they need more heading down the rest of the season and into the playoffs if they're going to be successful. I would think just the offense matching I think, yeah, I think the scoring for the offense, you'll give up the run and do what they've been doing for thirty plus points a game. Well, yeah, because in the run, I mean, like, let people ain't just besides this past week, people ain't just scoring on

you in the run excessively. More importantly, like people, a lot of the teams are running out of necessity because they cannot do anything else. So it's like it's a it's a matchup problem. So the run like that, and I have to remind myself of them of that when they're getting gashed in the run. You gotta think teams are schematically just trying to run the ball on you

because they are afraid to do anything else. So when you're seeing that you're run, your defense is seeing the brunt of like what's going on with their run, Like it's like, okay, well that they're dictating their offensive plan to run the ball. So I think that offensively, if you add scoring more points to them already trying to dictate that, you're causing them to make two changes like, oh no, we have to go pass, we have to go score, But they're already planning and pre planning. Just

made a fantastic point on our show. The Bears have been prepping for the Cowboys game two weeks brighter. So that puts perspective for you how much teams are trying to scheme to make sure they can run the ball successfully because passing is almost like for what they don't want to don't risk their quarterback. Not they don't want to risk their quarterback, but it also is it's just

difficult to have any time back there. So I would say the offense putting up points, putting up points early because again there's not that many teams like the Bears that are like and even de Marcus Lawd's even talked about. He was like, they were still running and I think they expected them to start passing. Most teams would start passing in those situations. So with that, me and said,

you know, make them make choices, business decisions. So are we saying that this defense is still going to be able to do what it can do, you know, holding teams to what seventeen points are? Like that? Okay, So if that's the key, I mean, honestly, that's what they've been to it. They're holding teams to point. Like I used to said, they're not giving up a ton of points. They're giving a bunch of yards. That's a bunch of

rushing yards. So if they keep doing that, but they can get thirty plus points, which one do you prefer? Ongoing offensively? Then yeah, let does offense get thirty some points, because then I think you've become unbeatable because if your offense is putting up thirty some points a game, you know, teams can't stick with the run consistently like that. We've seen Chicago. They try to stick with the running. They still got smacked by twenty some points out there. So

this defense is doing a heck of a job. You know, they may not be able to stop the run, but when it comes to the red zone, they are great when it comes to force and teams to hit field goals instead of getting touchdowns. And I believe if you can continue with that formula and have this defense only giving up seventeen points per game and you have your

offense exploding, then I mean the sky's a limit. Because this team was still able to put up or still able to win games when your offense was struggling out there, when Dak Prescott wasn't in there for five games, your defensive and your team was still winning because they were holding teams to such low points out there. If they're able to continue to do that by giving up maybe a hundred and fifty yards rushing in the game, I'll take that. As long as your offense is explosive as well,

they become pretty much an unbeatable team there. Okay, So there's what I'm gonna do. If we got We don't have much time, but I gotta ask this one last question because I gotta get you guys on the record on this one. Which camp do you falling? Because this is the biggest conversation going on about the Cowboys right now, media pology, get more carries or keep things as they are? How many carries? Fourteen? Yeah, that's fine, And I think he'd agree after saying how when did he was after

the game? All Right, that's my thoughts on it. That's fine. I mean fourteen, I mean about that range. Like, he's fine to me, and I think that's gonna be good for his body and for what he does for this team. I'm good with it. Maybe a few more, I doubt I'm good with that as well. Fourteen carries to me is good. I mean he's that change of pace back. We understand what Zeke brings to the table. He's that

tender riser. He gets teams, you know, worn down. So then Tony Pollard comes in there and bust a big one. I like where he's at right now, that fourteen, But between fourteen and eighteen carries, I think you get the most out of Polar You're not wearing them down. He still get that explosiveness with that carry amount. So I'm good where it's at. And then you know, next year

we'll come to the table again. Yeah, I would even say, you know, I'm good with that and that number being between ten and fifteen in a game like to me, I look at Tony Pollard as the kind of guy and this goes back. I know. Patrick Walker wrote a really good article yesterday where he had some time. They all all the media talk to us Skip Pete yesterday, but he was quoting Skip and some of the stuff that he was saying and going back to training camp.

This was something I talked to Skip about it. He is very convicted on the idea that you need two backs, and especially when you got two backs that have two different running styles. It he's the way he describes it is it's a lot different and Bear you probably can appreciate this as being a form of safety. Your angle when you're trying to hit Dak and how you're approaching Dak. I'm not Dak, I'm sorry. Zeke when he's running the ball, how you're going to attack him, it's very different then Tony.

So if you're doing that, you're hitting Zeke, You're trying to get to where he's gonna be, You're trying to make the tackle, and then all of a sudden you got Poller coming at you. Your angles all messed up, how you approach him, how you have to hit him.

All that stuff is now different, and you expect you force defenses to have to adjust on the fly when Tony Poller has the ball versus when Zeke has the ball, And he says that makes a huge difference, something he's always believed in as a coach here in the NFL. And so you look at it from that standpoint, I think there's a lot being made about nothing I don't think this is a problem. I actually think this running

game is a strength. And I know people say you can get better at it, but is that really gonna be better? Tony Pollard I think actually performs best when he's in that ten to fifteen Carrie mode and trying to get above that, you're probably gonna get a It's

gonna be the law of diminishing return. And then especially you know, not only say these, but defensive line as well, because when you're you're holding onto that block, you see, all right, ze got got some time that you know, kind of play with this because he's gonna hit the whole lot slower than boom. Here here comes Pollard hitting a hole. You gotta, you know, get off your block even quicker so that change the pace. Like you said, it works in the secondary as well as a defensive line,

and I think they hit gold. This little thunder and lightning combo they got going on right now, it's pretty legit. Yeah, it's working, And I don't think that's something you necessarily need to mess with. There are lots of other things you can mess with on this team if you want to just go and look for things to get crazy and wild about. That's not one of them. It ain't broke, don't fix it as it go. All right. We appreciate you guys joining us. We appreciate you guys coming in.

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