Cowboys Break: Changing of the Guard?

number seventy five. Welcome to another edition of The Break, live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We appreciate you guys joining us today. We're ready to talk to some Cowboys football with you for the next hour. Dave has his assessment of the Philadelphia Eagle offense that'll be coming up here in just a little while. Before we get to that, though, I want to talk a little bit about Connor Williams and the offensive line. Find

out yesterday the Connor Williams has a knee injury. It sounds like there's a possibility he could need a scope. Was that updated at all? He's getting the scope. He is getting the scope, so he is going to have to have authroscopic surgery on his knee. How long does that mean he's out? What are we looking at here? That's the conversation that we had about Randy Gregory with like you said, it's not surgery. That's what you said

a few weeks ago. So I don't know they're going at Jason Garrett said he thinks it's going to be short term. That's crazy to me. I mean, I thought Randy was a short term. Well they still they still you're right, but short term as a meaning he doesn't need to go on I r M. I think they're hopeful he can be back in two to three weeks. They'll have to wait and see. Randy Gregory's not back and he had his the week heading into the bye. So yesterday you were talking about and maybe stepping in

and there you go. It sounds like it's going to be a competition this week between Xavier Suaphilo and Adam Redmond. Okay, so let me ask you this there. In my opinion, there are kind of three scenarios that you can go with this. And I like to always do this when we ask these kinds of questions. I want you to first tell me what you think the Cowboys are going to do and then I want you to tell me if you think that's the right thing to do. What

they're gonna do is next man up. They're gonna say, well, you practice here and you'll probably be a next man up. This guy. I mean, I would imagine it's something like that, Sue a Philo or Redman, because you've been playing guard and why I moved two spots to play guard. But the reason why I think you do move two spots because Fletcher Cox is sitting over there and he's pretty good and somebody needs to be able to block him. Okay, he is playing, right, So he's playing and he's really

really really good. He is really good, and okay, so there are there are a couple of different options here. I think the first option you mentioned you got sue a Philo. You can just throw him in, right. I want to well, I want to hear Nick's opinion, like, what do you think they should do? I think they should put Lyle Collins over there to play guard because I don't think Lyle's playing very well at tackle and I think and you guys talked about it on the

show the other night. Brian said it on The Happy Hour, which was not happy It wasn't a happy hour at all. But it's the same approach that the Saints have always done with. Get the guards set and let Drew Brees get the middle in the center take care of that, and that's where the pocket collapses. And I think maybe they do need a little bit more beef inside, so healthy knees or not for Connor Williams, I think I think they need to consider having somebody better on the inside.

So I like, this is a good opportunity for me to go, Lyle call its inside. Okay, So so that would be one option, Lyle Collins inside and you put camera Fleming, I would assume at right tackle sure, all right. The other option would be you just plug in Xavier to a Philo. The other option could be used plug in Adam Redman or the other option, this is the fourth option you could take Joe Looney, move him over to guard, put Adam Adam Redman in as your center.

So all those being considered, Nick, you say you'd rather see Lyle move in and put camera Fleming out there. Dave, which way would you go? I think? And to be fair, I think the Cowboys are going to consider or all of that. Jason Garrett kind of hinted at that. I think obviously they would prefer that one of these two guys can just step into the guard spot and play well enough that it's not a big deal. But I mean, if it looks atrocious in practice, I don't think that

they're opposed to moving Looney. And if it really looks atrocious, I think they could consider putting Lyle. But I would guess with three options, like moving Lyle feels like a break glass in case of emergency type of thing, and I'd be kind of surprised if it got to that point. So I assume that it'll be Redmond or Suaphilo. That's my guess. What do you think is the right way?

Probably that I hear what Nick saying, But is Lyle Collins just gonna step into the guard for the first time in a year and a half, no, like two plus years, because he didn't even play in twenty sixteen because of his injury. He literally he hasn't played left guard since the twenty fifteen season. You're gonna ask him to do that on the fly and play against a

guy like Fletcher Cox. Yeah, and when you have guys the other options, especially when you have guys that are able to play at that position or have played at that position before. You you have the ability to do that, even though, yes, some things don't go as planned and something's just happening out of nowhere. But I think that when the opportunity presents itself in a scenario like this, why not go for it? And then Jason Garry kind of say something about then having some talks about it,

that that we're going to discuss it. It sound like he did, but it also sounds like it was kind of a as Dave said, kind of they don't want to ask in case of murder, They don't really want to say that. They think of him as a tackle. That's what those are the words that he thought of him as a guard for like two years. Of course he's gonna say that because he's a tackle now and they may not move, so of course he's gonna a

bid abide. Is that the right word? A word? Yeah? Wow, geez it works all right, It's gonna bide to that. There you go. Yeah. I mean, football teams always think like, well, we see him as a guard, but then when they change their mind, they see him as a tackle, and we're the dumb ones for questioning it, like that's the way that works. So, Alaron Jones was definitely a safe. Iron Jones is safety, and well now we see him

as a corner, and you were dumb. You were dumb until we agreed with you, and now it makes sense. Um point. But I I don't know. I don't. Lyle Collins hasn't he has not had a good season, and so is shifting. Is he gonna play better at guard magically after two years off? And I y'all already both y'all already both said yes, So clearly I know how you feel. Um, I don't. I don't know. I don't think.

I don't really, I don't think I buy it. I don't think he's going to play like like at an all pro level or even at a at a really really good level. But I do think that when when I look at my options and think, okay, Cameron Fleming started in the Super Bowl, played against the Eagles, I'd be the reason they let him go. But I don't know. I don't know exactly how he played in that game. Game. I know that the Brady was running for his life, but I do you know he started that game? He

faced the Eagles. I like him out there to tackle. I like Lyle. I like that better than I think there there's I don't think you're wrong. Like I don't think they're gonna do it though, which is maybe why I'm not following you there. But I don't. I don't think you're wrong. Yeah. Um, I hate the fourth option. I hate that one because that's that's a two persona that's moving two spots. And well, you're talking about moving

two spots, all right, I know, let me finish. That's moving two spots and it includes Adam Redman and Looney in the middle with Fletcher Cox there. I hate that. I like you're saying you don't want two new spots in the middle. I don't. I don't want two new spots. If if it's two guys that are that are playing that are that are really inexperience, then I think Lyle Collins and Cameron Fleming have more experience that I know they have more experience playing those positions than Looney and Redman.

I'm really not trying to put Redman on the field. I will say this, it's if especially how it's been the offensive line right now, Yeah, it's been a mess. If that happens, then it will then you will have been very right in the sense of I really think if Redmond or Stu a Philo even looks like competent, I think that's what they'll roll with. And so if they do something like move ly l it's because those guys are horrendous and like, how horrendous can you even

be in a non contact practice? You know, so they would have to really be bad for them to be that non contact because David Irving's getting carted off through you know, it's high ankle. Again. That's the problem being conservative. That's the problem that they've had so far. Yes, yes, you, I mean you're fighting for your job right now, you're fighting for your life pretty much, because yeah, it is

what it is. But it's like, why be conservative? So if I'm the cowboys and that's my first thought, start going with your second thought, what would I not do? Skip over that the next what would I not do? And do that instead? And I might just start working

on deep balls if you did that. What I what I like about what you guys are saying, really more than anything else, is if you start thinking about it from the standpoint of who are your best five, and you hear that a lot when you start talking about offensive lines, who are your best five that I think Cameron Fleming is probably gonna be among that group before you would put Adam Redman or before you would put Sulphilo.

So if that's the case and you're trying to get your best five on the field, then it may have to mean you move a Lyle Collins. Now I agree with you, Dave. They're not gonna do it. I think at the end of the day, they prefer to have one thing change versus half two things change, especially when they've prepared and we talk about it a lot, and we give them a lot of flak for this in

the past. When they do it, you get a guy prepared all offseason and you get him into the season to play a particular position, and then all of a sudden, you say, and now you're gonna do something else. He has been preparing. I'm talking about Lyle. He has been preparing as a tackle. He has been playing as a tackle. It's been two years since he played guard. Thinking that all of a sudden in a week he can in a short week, by the way he can now make

the transition over to tackle. I'm sorry, he's been playing guard. He's been playing tackle. That's to be able to move over to card. That's a lot to expect him to be able to do again when you're going up against Fletcher Cocks. Today's today's practice as a walkthrough because of the short weeks, so you're really even you're saying, figure this out in two practices and you're going up against

one of the best defensive tackles in the league. I'm about to say something really cynical, like even for me, but can't be too cynical for you. You're right, But the way, the way the Cowboys would do this is

role with what they got. You know, keep Lyle where he is and Fletcher Cox will eat dak alive and then they'll make the switch for Atlanta, like that's what they'll do and be like, well, we think Lyle can play guard now hopefully after Fletcher Hopefully this is not Atlanta and they let let him get sacked nine times whatever number of times it was before they would do it. If you get into the game and it starts to be a problem, flip it. I mean, it's just that

you can't let that happen. An entire game like they did. You can't even go into the game like that. Okay, Connor Williams is supposed to be better than your backups, right, you would think, you would think, Although I did bring up the question last night on our show on the Happy Hour of because Connor is still a rookie and because he's still making rookie mistakes like he hasn't had there have been a lot of games where there have been moments where it's like, oh, what's what's Connor doing?

So with a guy like let's say Sue a Philo or with Redman, they have a little more experience than he does, could you possibly get better play from them?

Not saying that they will ever be as good as what Connor is expected to be in future years, but because he's still a rookie and still doesn't have the size and the strength and the experience that you really want him to have in order to be really successful, are you actually getting maybe a little better player in that spot than what you have right now with Connor? That's gonna be their hope, and that's why I think

they'll probably stick stick with it. You know, the next man up, they'll say, and at least try sue Philo's you know, he's been in the league for five years. He started a couple dozen games in Houston, whatever it was. I mean, he was a second round pick. He's a guy that that the Texans tried to you know, they expected him to be a starter. So he's got the experience, and I'm sure that's what their mindset will be, that maybe this guy's not that big of a drop off

from a rookie. That makes sense. I mean, they're going to sell it like he was a second round pick. Um, but he was also a cut. You know, he was cut. I mean, Chas Green was a third round pick and he's not in the league. Ry he is in the league. He's every pig. Didn't turn out the way you expected, you can, they're gonna have a little reunion between him and Dez. I don't even think about that. Um, yeah, what else was? Oh? I was gonna say either way, I bet you, I bet you that there won't be

an inactive offensive lineman this week. They can't afford to have one, can't. I bet there will be Hunter. Oh, you're right, I'm okay. Among the healthy guys. All right, we're gonna take our first break. When we come back, Dave's gonna give us a scoutter and port tell us a little bit about these Eagles and their offense, how they move the ball, how they score. We'll talk about that when we come right back. This is Dallas Cowboys

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one for yoursel self. Visit my John deardealer dot com slash football. Back to the Break, Welcome back. It is the second segment of The Break live from the SWBC Mortgate studios at the Star talking Cowboys football. Get into a little Eagles talk, Dave. Yeah, get a little study there on the Eagles offense. Yeah, what'd you find. I'm not as much as I would have liked. This short week is messing me all up. But I did get a chance to watch a couple of games, and the

big thing for me is their offensive line shocking. We just spent the whole first second talking about the Cowboys. I think the Eagles are going through their own pains, mainly because of injuries. Remember Jason Peters missed most of last season. He's been in and out of the lineup with his own problems. Lane Johnson is another guy who's missed some games, and this line has has suffered for it. The Eagles are not a whole lot better than the

Cowboys in terms of protection. They've allowed twenty six sacks this season. I think it's hindered their offense. Um. You know, you know, if you pay attention to just looking around the league, like there's been a lot of talk about you know, five alarm fire, Like, oh my god, the Eagles, they're they're terrible. I didn't see that. Um, their line, their line needs some work. They're not scoring as many points as you would assume. But this this still looks

like the same talented group from last year. Like again, Carson Wentz, people are like, oh, he doesn't look the same since his injury. I didn't see that. Um, he's completing seventy one percent. He has thirteen touchdowns and two interceptions in the sixth starts since he came back in Week three. I think pretty healthy number. Yeah. No, he's he's playing really well and I'm sure he's still getting acclimated after the injury. He doesn't run as much, he's

only running like three times per game. But he's still an athletic guy too, Like he can pick up yards with his feed. He's big, he's super and and he's he's surprisingly athletic for like the bag prototypical. You know, he looks like a statue quarterback, but he's not. In this last game against Jacksonville, third and third and three, he tries to throw for the first down and the

ball gets batted back in his face. He adjust catches it and runs forward and dives for the first down like he can be the closest to Cam Newton in the NFL. When you talk size, I mean, obviously I think he throws much better than Cam. But when you're talking size and when you're talking athleticism, is he the closest that there is to Cam in the league. That feels fair to me. Trying my best to think about other quarterbacks in the league, I just don't think anybody

else has that kind of size. I can't see a big dude. I don't think he's not as athletic as Cam, but he's still nobody's as Cam. But maybe the closest approximation I would think to Cam good. But uh, A lot of this personnel looks the same. Zach Ertz. I get why. I get why Jason Witten gave him his jersey. I think he probably honestly is the best tight end in football right now, maybe better than Kelsey. I think

he's more well rounded. I think he's a better blocker and can do all that tight that type of stuff. He's got sixty one catches for six hundred eighty yards right now. He's easily you know, he's their primary look. And then you have Alshon, Jeffrey, Nelson Agilore, and of course a guy who I haven't seen with the Eagles yet, Golden Tate Goldie. I'm interested to see how that goes. I think I read some Eagles writers said that they think Tate's gonna play primarily slot, which means Nelson Agilore

probably moves outside a little bit. And then the biggest difference with this team right now is, you know they had Jagi and La Garrett Blunt last year. Those guys are gone. They do it more so by committee than any team we've seen. They got like five guys. Wendel Smallwood is listed as the starter. They also have Corey Clement and then Josh Adams, who is a Notre Dame running back, Big six three two, twenty dude and fun times. Darren Sprowles is coming back this week. He'll be back.

It's been out since week one. I think we all know what he can do and what he has done to this team. So they got they got four guys, they're going to use them all. Um. I think Smallwood and Adams are their best runners. And then Darren Sprowles is one of the best receiving running backs of the last twenty years. So are those offensive lineman you mentioned are they all still healthy? Are they healthy at this point or is a situation where they're still kind of

gimpy not really playing? Lane Johnson is expected to play, but he's been limited. He's he's gimpy. And then lay did he play the last game? No? Um? And then Jay's I'm sorry, no he did. I'm sorry he did. Um. And then Jason Peters he's got like a quad thing and a biceps thing and so he's not completely healthy, but he's still Jason Peters did he play the last game? Yes? So both of them played the last game. Did just both hurt? Yeah? And the line has suffered for it.

But they're still talented guys, sat, I mean, so, um, they've had their issues. But this offense looks similar to me to what we saw last year. You know, people call him, oh sorry, people call him a college offense, like there's a you know, kind of like not as not as not as weird, for lack of a better word, than Houston with the stuff they do with you know, when Kiki qts moving all around, but there's a lot of wide receiver motion. Agalore moves from the backfield into

the slot and vice versa. They do you know, the jet action, play action. There's usually some sort of play action with either a running back or a wide receiver on the vast majority of their plays and wins. His athleticism plays into that. It's it's the new wave in the NFL. I feel like we talk about it more often than not, But I think the reports of their demise have been exaggerated a little bit. They still look plenty scary to me. When teams have stopped them. What

have they done? It's gotten to wins. I mean twenty six sacks and you see it. Going back to Nick's point from the beginning of the show, teams collapse the pocket on him and I don't. He doesn't. Like I said, he's still athletic, but he doesn't want to move. I think I think that's in the back of his head as well. It probably should be. I mean, his season was ended on a scramble play. Uh and so he takes sacks, you can affect him in the pocket. I don't think he's as willing to extend plays as he

used to be. Uh, and you throw him off. That's when teams have limited them that I've seen really important. David Irving can play this week. If he can, if he comes back from an ankle injury. We'll see if he practices today or what he was doing. I don't he wasn't out there again, It's yeah, this is a way, yeah, but yeah, I just feel like and I know that that Um Ross played well, Daniel Ross played well, but you got to I mean that they have good center,

you've you've have great center. You've got to be able to affect them in the pocket like that. So I think it's it's important if somehow he can play more so than Gregory. Gregory might play, But I mean, I feel like you've got to have some defensive tackle play there because he's a guy that that has the ability extend plays. Though because of his size, even when you're trying you get to him, it's hard to bring him down.

I've seen him make a lot of throws with guys hanging off of him, right, Do you in a situation like that, do you think maybe the Cowboys kind of back off a little bit from blitzing and try to just keep as many guys in coverage as possible to make it hard for him to make that throw. Or do you just kind of go at him and get really aggressive with going after him even though that you know, there may be some plays where you get exposed a little bit because he extends to play because you can't

get him down. Those backs catch the ball, though, don't they. Yes, they do well, Yes, it makes it hard to know they do. It's it's gonna be interesting because we haven't really seen it. Smallwood and Clement catch the ball. They've got twenty nine total receptions this year. But Sprowls is back and that's what he does, that's all, that's what

he does best. Yeah, and so I think you're definitely going to see an element of that which I don't like the idea of bringing a lot of pressure because I'm sitting here, like they don't, you know, this team doesn't have that like Burner, like Deshaun Jackson, who's just gonna get behind you and go to the house. But Alshan Jeffrey's huge. I mean, you know, you talk about traveling Byron Jones. I don't mind the thought of Byron Jones following him around because he's gonna he's a contested

ball phenom. You add Golden Tate. We already saw what Golden Tate can do to this defense. Two chunk play touchdowns. Somebody's gotta cover Zach Ertz. I think Layton vander esh and Jalen Smith are athletic guys who can handle that, but Ertz as a different animal. So the more pressure you're bringing, the less guys you have around to deal

with all this stuff. That kind of scares me, to be honest, But I honestly am wondering though if with the guys you currently have in your secondary, I don't know if I really trust the fact that in zone covers they're going to be able to really affect the passing games. I'm almost like, hey, you just have to take your chances and be a lot more aggressive, because I certainly don't like to match up of Anthony Brown's

slot against Golden Tate. If you if you're gonna try to man up, or if you're gonna try to, you know, try to take these guys one on one. I just I think it's you probably are in a better position is if you give them less time and send some pression. I'm not saying you have to do that the whole game, but I do think they got to find their spots here to be aggressive and really go after him and not let him sit back there and figure out where he wants to throw the ball. I take that back

what I said about Gregory. I do need him to play because what that does that puts Tyron Crawford back in the middle, and that's where he needs to be rushing from. And then you got better rushers if you can get Crawford inside and Gregory on the outside. He's

way more disruptive in the middle than eating outside. Yeah, and that's again pushing, you know, not so much concerned about coming around the edge as disrupting the pocket, making Wins have to move, making him uncomfortable because he's athletic enough and they do enough stuff with play action that I think Wins can limit the effect that like a DeMarcus Lawrence has on this game just through his own

natural The linebackers did not play well last game. I mean, that was not the good game for vanderash or Jalen Smith. They might have had a lot of tackles, but they have probably had a lot of miss tackles too, and so just moments when they couldn't get out of the trash, right, yea. So on the eagle talk whatever that's called the bird chat? Yeh, eggles hour Eagles hour, Eagles eggles eggles our eggles Yeah, huh Eagles. I don't know. I haven't really hung out

with one lately, so I don't know. Is that not how they sound? It doesn't seem right. Do you think they sound? Oh? No, but that's another type of bird. Get your birds ride there. The stats, the stats say that this isn't an impressive offense. Uh, their middle of the pack. They don't run the ball as well as they did last year without a GII. They're not scoring now. It's part of that when you look in at season

stats for them, though. It it factors in the games that WinCE wasn't playing though, right, how many games he did WinCE against the Holy missed two? So I don't know that. So they have what six games he's played, he's started six started six hasn't been great in those six I mean he had and they've had their issues like that's I mean, you know, you I follow I

follow media for everybody in the league. I follow a ton of Philly media, and they they talk about this team like they're like, what the hell is wrong with this offense? Which they're four and four. They've already lost more games than they did all of last seasons, so I get it. But the talent here is still plenty impressive to me. And also they're coming off a couple

of games where they've played better than they had. I mean, last year they could just flat out running games like they would get the situations where they could just saddle up and run the ball, and they can't. I don't think they can do do not. I do not think they're gonna just line up and bowl this team over that, you know, the way a giy and blunted last year. You know, we thought that the Cowboys had a long break on a Monday night game after a buye Is

this right? Then? The Eagles play Thursday night against the Giants. No, well they actually the Eagles missing you skipped. Well, the Eagles went to London and beat Jacksonville. That was their last game. Okay, the action, which it's thrilled pretty long break. I'm sure we'll get that's but I'm I know there are Cowboys fans that are pissed because the Cowboys are on a short week playing an Eagles team that's been on its by, which doesn't seem like you're want to

do that with division teams especially. It doesn't seem like a great scheduling call by the NFL. But like somebody gets screwed by the schedule every year, like it's play this week Atlanta is playing. I don't know, buy are they No, they're not on a buy it's gonna say, because that would saw them in the picks, But I don't remember. That would be three games their favorite though, I think I don't know. I think not. That's three

straight games that Cowboys would face. Somebody coming on and buy. No, No, they're I'm pretty sure they're playing this week, gotcha. I'm pretty sure they're playing to say, all right, we're gonna take our final break when we come back. I want to get some calls, calls eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. Again it is eight eight eight eight five five two two nine seven. We'll also get some reaction from these guys on the impending signing

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Opinions on des Bryant. It sounds like he has well we know he went to work out for the for the Saints, and it sounds like they are in the process of doing the deal. It sounds like it's pretty much everything but signed at this point, I think it might even be signed, might even be signed. He is now going to be a new Orleans Saints wide receiver, which means that the Cowboys on November twenty ninth will face Dez Bryant here at at and T Stadium. What

are your thoughts. I'm I'm super excited to see what it looks like. This is. You know, we've been wondering what was going to happen with this for a long time. UM, even going back as far as April, I think all of us said that this is the type of situation that he could thrive in. Aaron green Bay and Aaron Rodgers was the other one. I did not know this. You know, the Saints drafted they have Ted Ginn and they drafted a kid named Trey Kwan. He got hurt and this kid, Trey Kwan Smith out of UCF has

kind of taken over as the Z receiver. But I did not realize. UM, no receiver on the Saints roster other than Mike Thomas has more than twelve catches this year. But I don't know, he's really really good. But there's there's snaps to go around, is what I'm trying to say, like, there's you know, there's not this guy that you can't take off the field. So like I would imagine Dez is probably their number two receiver right away, really, I mean not this weekend. I would guess because he you know,

he hasn't practiced yet. Assumption is that he can't be in shape enough to really play a huge amount of snaps. I wouldn't think, well that, but that's I guess. That's my point is if if they're none of their other receivers have more than twelve catches, like they can cycle him in just as easily as anybody else. No, I'm saying more just from his heath, like is he is he in enough? Is he in good enough shape to

do it? I'm not saying that necessarily taking anybody off the field, as much as just when you've been sitting at home, can you be in the kind of shape that you need to be in to play a significant enough with the whole fitness your face? I don't. I don't buy Instagram a whole lot on his I bet you, Like I said, I doubt he plays. I think the Saints play the Bengals this weekend. I doubt he plays this weekend, but the game after that, he'll be ready

for Cowboys. He'll definitely be ready for Cowboy. He'll be ready to play twenty five to forty snaps by the next game. Yeah, I agree with that. I can see that it's gonna be fascinating, Like, is Dez done? Is he not done? How well can he play? How well do the Saints need him to play in that offense anyway with all the weapons that they have. I'm I'm fascinated to see it as a football fan, as a Dez fan, as a Cowboys writer. You know, I think it's gonna be fascinating to watch. I want to see

what it looks like. The great part of it is Desk can go there, and Desk can be a one trick pony, and if he does it well, it will make their team infinitely better. Because if you got a guy like Michael Thomas that right now teams try to double him, he still gets open and he still catches the ball. They have a running game with two really

good running backs. And now if you can just add a dimension with Dez Bryant that gives you something down the field with those fifty fifty balls, that creates a whole different dynamic that teams now just have to respect him. It's what Teddy Gain usually provides for them. You just gotta respect him out there on the outside. And if you got to respect him, that just helps. A running game helps Michael Thomas like all the way around, it's

a that's a great fit for them. I've only, like I said, they're only two teams I thought were great fits. I think this is one of them. Maybe three New England too. In New England, I think you got to be a much more disciplined route runner. I look at a guy like Chad Johnson when he went there, he burned out quick. Yeah that's fair, you know, it does. I mean, I'm sorry, I don't know. I'd rather just not say a whole lot about it because I don't I don't know what he's doing. I mean, this is

not about the Saints. Is maybe it's a good fit for the Saints, but it's a thousand percent good fit for Dez, which is what he's looking for. Um. You know, I think it made it. He made it pretty clear that this was all about him this time around, was getting this deal. I don't think he was signing with anybody that didn't play the Cowboys, and I don't think he was signing with anyone that that was didn't have

a good quarterback and a good offense. So this is quarterbacks, Yeah right, this is about him and maybe a chance to go get a ring. What I what I really wonder more about it is Sean Payton's future in New Orleans. This is what makes me kind of wonder more about him. I think he's going all in for this year. I don't know if he's I don't know this, but I just don't think he'll be the coach for the Saints

next year. So I think he's doing this like man, this is just let's just put everything we have to go win this thing right now. And that's kind of my first thought about him going to get Dez is for that region. But for Deaz, it's just like, hey, I want to I want to show the Cowboys what I can do, but I'm not going to anybody just to play and run around and struggle like we're gonna, I mean, on top of it to eight and one

and then we'll talk. Um. It's interesting to note too, is you know we said all along Daz was holding out for a one year deal so he could test free agency, and we were swelling like, why hasn't he signed? Why is he waiting? Maybe he's waiting because nobody was willing to give him that until you know, at this point in the season, they're like, all right, it's only there's only seven games left anyway, so yeah, well sign. It wasn't a one year deal. Yeah, I believe that's

what they're saying. I don't know how much money, but it's only one year. So eight games. Make your best impression and see what I see what they don't. I don't think they have anything to lose with this. No, I don't think in half a season he can disrupt their locker room. I don't think he can cost problems in half a season that breaks up their chemistry. Like, I just think at the end of the day, this is a no lose for them. I'll be interested. I don't. Yeah,

you're right, it's only eight games. It's probably not enough time to break up their locker room. But like Michael Thomas loves him some him too, he is you know, do you think maybe the influence could possibly create some or just I mean on the road is yeah, that's you. I saw somebody already made a meme about that where it was Mike Thomas on the phone and then they had Dez Bryant at the telethon that we did for

Harvey relief last year. Yeah, so what you're doing. I think for eight games, I think they can co exist. But those are those are two really big egos that are sharing the same room. Now. I'm really curious to see and excited and anxious to seem to see him

play three Sorry, go talk, what do you want? Go Amber, I'm excited to see him play, to see him play because I want not only to see how he performs, but if he does well, that's gonna give me another whole different idea of the Cowboys offense and what this team is in the coaching and even Dak Prescott, because if I start seeing him succeed although when you started remembering the place, I'm not even gonna look at him, Nick freaking rude. Come on, you know why, I just

forget it. I don't even know what you're talking about. Let's let's go. I'm saying, if he succeeds where he's playing, that's gonna give me a whole different outlook of this offense. It's just gonna add on to what just Literally, the Cowboys have had a narrative since February, and it already doesn't look that great because they had to go get Amari Cooper, like their whole we don't need a number

one receiver thing doesn't look great right now. Wow, if Daz goes to another offense and plays great, they're gonna look even worse. Right, I was going to agree with that because Des took eight or nine years still still hasn't figured out the Cowboys offense. So let's be clear. He could not play the slot. He could not be a slot receiver because he really didn't ever understand and

figure that out. So if you're right, if he goes to New Orleans, goes there and they figure out something for him, now he's not making sixteen million a year, so you can justify his role in a different way. He can be a one trick pony or whatever you said. He couldn't have really, he couldn't have done that here with the contract they gave him. But if he goes and picks this up rather quickly, I think it'll go it'll say a lot to how much teaching and coaching

there was involved with what he was doing here. But let's also be clear, I think one of the things, and I know I said it, I assume I'm pretty sure you guys agreed and said the same things that when it comes to Dez, like, part of the reason the Cowboys let him go is not necess serily because

he's a worst player. It's because with the current construction of the team, he didn't fit the quarterback and the offensive coordinator couldn't figure out how to use him the right way for whatever reason, whether it's because he couldn't get him the ball the right way, but because they couldn't get him the ball enough, because of the philosophy of the offense, whatever the case might have been, they couldn't figure out how to use him the best way.

That didn't necessarily mean he wasn't still a capable player. What we're about to find out right now is is he still a capable player? And if he is, that still doesn't mean the Cowboys should have kept him, because it means the Cowboys maybe still just couldn't use him in that way. Right well, I think that still goes back to the whole coaching thing again, and again, yeah, some pieces might not work with while you're trying to do.

But if that's what you have and he's still part of the better pieces in your puzzle, you still as a coach find a way to make it work and figure out how to get him moving. But I just think that either way, well unless he does horrible over there with the same and then all the way round of it. Kay, alright, that was where right, which totally totally possible. Yeah, I mean, let this can go a lot of different way. It could, It could, but I

just I think it's it's a he held on. He had the patience, I guess, to hold on for ten weeks, and I think he put himself in as good of a position as he possibly could. Let's real quick, before we in the show, Let's get a tall call from Tony in Colorado. Tony, what up? Just taking the call. Definitely enjoy the show, Thank you, And it's glad to hear nick Uh make the point about Crawford being inside on the defensive line. I talked to Brian brought us

about this before, and he always disagreed. In my opinion, Crawford cannot bend and get down like a Gregory or Lawrence or Armstrong or when we had Tapper. Um. I think having a big guy like that should be disruptive and push back the U, the center and the guards on the offensive line. And I just have a question, since I don't have the insight intel like you guys do, has there ever been any talk about bringing Romo back as an offensive coordinator if Lennonhan gets, you know, displaced

at the end of the year. Okay, thanks for the call. I'll answer that that part Tony Romo is enjoying being like away from football and when you're a coordinator, like you're you're here for like fifteen sixteen hours a day every day, long hours and stuff. I think there was an Instagram picture of him on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, like on his couch, like sitting there watching You're not doing that as a coordinator. You're not playing golf. I just don't want to work that hard. I can't think

of a single reason why he would do that. I don't unless he just loved to actually the challenge of actually going and being a coordinator. But I don't see why he would want to do that from certainly from the standpoint and of quality of life. He ever did, though. I was told this, if he ever decided to be a coach, he would be a defensive coordinator. There you go, he would not be an offensive coordinator to be a

defensive cord. Think about how he calls the game. He's telling you what's gonna happen offensively, what are they thinking right now? That makes him a great defensive coordinator to be able to combat right The story the story that I've heard, and Dez would play Madden religiously. He plays it all the time, tells everybody how good he is. He played Romo, who doesn't really play it. Romo smoked him because on defense he knew what to player. And this is Madden. I mean, this is just like, you know,

fake football or whatever. I just think you're you're seeing the flip side of it. You know. John Gruden was worshiped as like this god of football when he was on TV talking about it and doing commercials. The reality is not as fun, Yeah, it's I mean, you're working ten times harder, doesn't mean your team's gonna be good and people don't like you if you're not winning. Tony Romo gets to work. I mean, what does he work

during football season? Like forty hours a week, Like he's got to watch the Sweet Gig, He's got to watch tape of the teams he's covering. He's got to go in on Friday and Saturday and do interviews with the guys and then called the game. And then he spends the rest of the week at home with his family and he gets to do Corona and whatever and Sketcher's commercials, and people think he's the freaking man because his football expertise.

I'm not trying to hate on him, but like it's not put to the test in the sense that he's not winning and losing games. It's like the best job in the world, and I just I can't imagine that he would leave that for all of the work. So no, I don't see that happening. And if it does happen,

it won't be any time in the near Fie. It would have to be because he just wants that challenge, Like it would just have to be a life challenge, like hey, I want to go do this to see how good I can be, And that would be the only reason that it would make sense he left football and got put to the front of the line in the broadcasting world. I mean, which doesn't happen, very awful, especially for both those guys. That to happen, and it does happen if you play for the Cowboy, can happen

if you play for the Camp. Real quick about Crawford though, like yes, I said that about him being in the inside, but remember they don't pass every single play. Those defensive ends for all is you know the bending and you know that you need to do to get off the edge. You also need to stop the run. So that's what makes to Marcus Lawrence made. It's what made DeMarcus Ware so good that they could stop the run. So that's what Crawford gives you when he plays ends, his ability

to stop the run. So it's not just about getting off the edge. They need those those defensive vents. Like you said, Taco, Doran's arm strong. Those guys they need to Gregory and they need to stop the run as well. All right, guys, appreciate you joining us back tomorrow. We'll have more talk for you. We're definitely gonna talk about the Eagles defense. I'll be a lot to talk about there. Dave will give us his breakdown till then for Nick,

even Dave helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagles and this has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.