Cowboys Break: Blue/White Scrimmage Preview

hosting today. I am joined by my partners in crime, A g amber Garcia, Nicholas Eatman, and Derek Eagleton. How's it going everybody? Well, it's good day. I thought for a second maybe we had to do it again. I thought that all that awesome intro that we had to start over. I mean, you're criticizing my intro. It was great, I say. I thought because of the music that we heard. I thought that was like, oh, oh okay, no, this is great. Uh hey, guys going pretty well. It's Sunday.

It's scrimmage day here at Cowboys Camp. Wait. Well, okay, I'm the host today, so I'm gonna say it's scrimmage day. The Cowboys are gonna scrimmage. They used to call it the Blue and White Scrimmage. I don't think they do they bother. Okay, it's gonna it's gonna be televised on Dallas Cowboys dot com today. Uh it's is it not televised on Dallas cow streamed streamed on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Let me run this down for you. So it will be streamed on Dallas Cowboys dot com, got it. It

will be on the Dallas Cowboys mobile app. It will be on Connected TV. That would be on Roku, Apple TV, and Fire Amazon Fire. Um, it will be if you're in the Dallas area, it will be on TSA twenty one, so make sure you check it out on TSA twenty one. You can watch it there live as well, So it'll be on all those different channels for you to watch live as it happens today four pm Pacific time, six

pm Central. It'll be about a two hour telecast. This is as good a look as you're going to get at the Cowboys in the non game setting all year. Which to that point, I ask, big deal Blue and White Scrimmage Gang yes or no, just yeah, I think so, I mean, don't don't get hurt. I mean, but it's it's good to actually see some guys maybe tackling sort of.

I mean, we'll have a we'll have a little bit of that, but um yeah, I mean, I think everybody got excited yesterday about the goal line and and we'll I know, we'll talk about that, but I mean, because it's the closest thing to football you actually can see when we talk all this time about this strength you can't really tell, but the old line pushing people around what you could tell in that setting, both Scarborough and

he and guys like that. So I think the scrimmage will be an extension of that any No, no, I mean it'll it'll be It'll be fun. It will be It will be fun from the standpoint that for fans you get to actually see some live football. Now, it's not gonna be what you used to seeing in a game, so I don't expect that, but it will be some periods will be live and it'll be an opportunity just

to see the competition of football. So for right now, in this time of the year, as many of those fans out there that are like me that are missing football. This will be football. I will say this. It's like I said, this is as good of a look as as fans can get if they're not out here, because other than that, you're just stuck with my Twitter video I'm gonna which is not bad. Which is not bad on that because I mean, I'm not gonna run. Have you run down that whole list where to watch? It's

every channel but the Food Network. It seems like you can watch this, but it's better to see it there than out here, because you know how these scrimmage goes. You gotta get around. You got you know we only have forty seven coaches. Yeah that stand? Oh yeah no, because you're gonna have a bird's eye view of this. The best view is gonna be watching it there or maybe some people that are have a good spot up there in the in the bleachers. This is good. It's

not a scrimma. I don't have this. I mean, to the point of a scoreboard and all that. Who's gonna win with a blue one twenty eight? It's not gonna be that, but it'll it's football. Well, it's the closest thing we can see and the other thing to note too for those out there that'll be watching it, they'll also get good commentary because all you guys, I know that you Nick and Dave and Rob and Brian and Bill Jones and Mickey and then just the whole crew will be out as a part of this on air

giving commentary on what's happening during the scrimmage. So it's your chance to kind of catch up on a lot of things too, because you guys will talk about it. Yeah, we've been noticing this and this player during camp, and we've noticed this story with this player, and so it'll be a good way to kind of get this full synopsis in two hours of what's been happening out of training camp and actually see these guys on the field. So from that standpoint, it's a great opportunity to see

what's going with the Cowboys. It is going to be a football feast for sure later today. Before we get into that, well that hasn't happened yet, so let's rewind the clock. Nick alluded to it. Cowboys had a pretty spirited practice yesterday, did eight live reps on the goal line. There was a scuffle between the offensive and defensive lines. I want to give him a fight a brawl if you not quite a brawl. We've seen some brawls out here.

I don't know if that qualifies as a brawl. No, no, but it was definitely different than than some of the typical yes, pushing and shoving, like all right, well real before we get into that real, Just right off the bat, a couple news and notes. Um Charles Tapper came back to practice yesterday. Sean Lee stood around in his uniform and worked out on the side. But I still don't think he did any meaningful contact practice unless I missed something.

Anybody I didn't see him do anything. Deonte Thompson and Chris Covington also sat out, and then the big one. I don't. I don't know if anybody has an update on this, but Shitaba Woozier sat out for a decent portion of practice. We haven't talked to Jason Garrett yet today, but does anybody anybody hurt anything about that? Should we

be concerned? Just just watching him talk to the trainers and kind of walking off yesterday, it didn't seem that serious, and mainly because of and we've seen this before, when a guy gets gets banged up in practice. If it's really bad. I mean, they're gonna take him in and get him off his feet a little bit. And and he just kind of stayed off to the side. So I, without knowing anything, it just looked like it was a precautionary thing, banged up. Let's just hold out, let's see

what We'll see what happens. But I think for the most part, he's gonna be fine. I would assume. All right, as I alluded to, thank you, Nick, Thank you Nick. Three welcome three. Three main storylines came out of yesterday's practice. In my in my view, all right, uh A B and C amber, which don't look at my notes. I can't you think that I don't know no what A B or C? What should we talk about first? A B or C? Just pick one? Well, gotta go with

it here, Hey, okay, andar well. In that case, as we alluded to, Travis Frederick and at Antoine Woods got after it yesterday, um looked like some trash talking after a one on one rep and it led to a whole thing. Uh, Derek, what I mean, there's a lot to unpack there, Like just what was your favorite part of that whole episode? There were several I mean, and first of all, it seemed like there was some trash talk that was going on before the play. That's kind

of where it seemed like it started. There was kind of this, you know, okay, let's just let's just play like that kind of thing. And then they play and and Travis kind of got beat on it and uh, and so then the trash talk really starts. And the next thing, you know, maybe a right cross. I don't know, maybe right cross, maybe overhand right, I don't know, but I know it was a right and it came in swift and uh. And at first I couldn't touch it

because you're actually just hurting your hand. Although some of the clubs that these guys have for hands, like, I do wonder if how how bad that would hurt, even if you have a face mask on. I do wonder if just the jolt of it is is kind of painful. Who knows. All I know is it started a brawl. Everybody came in and then of course my favorite part, Martin comes over the top. There's I mean, and it's at the top of the whole thing and just kind of lands on the pile. And for my money, it's

the best thing that's happened at training camp. It's pretty good. It looked like I've never seen Sack act like that, I mean and react like that. Oh my god, that's um which. But the strange thing is like yesterday, for some reason, maybe we've just been here too long already, where the energy was just up the air, just so high since walk through. I mean, we've never heard them make so much noise during walkthrough as they were doing yesterday, didn't so into it. And then I guess that carried

over to the afternoon practice. Yeah, and it is. It's getting to that point in practice, That's what they all said where it's like, Okay, we're hitting each other, and the more you're going against the same guy, the more he's doing things now that kind of annoy you a little bit, and it probably vice versa, and so it kind of just gets to that point and it's getting close to preseason time, like we need to go hit somebody else, which well they sort of they didn't get

a shift to somebody else, but they got a chance to hit, which I think played a role in that. Uh. The Cowboys did live goal line yesterday. They ran eight reps, four for the first team, two for the second team defense won five out of eight of the reps. Um. I'm gonna just be a classic fan and say concern for the offense or happy for the defense here, happy for the defense. Yeah, I'm not concerned by the offense. Again, I think that the defense, this defense is going to

be there. This defense to me seems undersized and quick and and in practice settings like this, when they're not getting knocked on their ass, they're gonna look pretty good out here. I want to see how well that they tackle, and so I'm not really that concerned just yet. Now I understand the goal line reps. I mean I think it was pretty much ones against the twos, right. No, well, I mean well, I mean like some guys are coming

in now, but they had ones going against ones. It just wasn't Zeke right, right, that's which or Rod Smith for that man. Yea. They made some strategic substitutions. Yeah, I mean there was a healthy portion of starters in the field. You know what I like from yesterdays that a few guys that we're not necessarily used to talking about stood out. For example, Tarvarius Ward. That's the guy that just shined yesterday and he let you know who number forty. I bet he was that one of your

three's in season. He's actually not so great. Great day friend. Well no, I was just saying, that's the guy that we haven't really been talking about, and yesterday he made everyone look who number forty was. Who's that guy? Oh yeah, there's a lot of this. There's a lot of distant number forty. Okay, alright, you're always going to go back to what you know, right, he didn't have the dreads. That's the only reason I didn't think that. Before we get back in the ward, I want to talk about

the goal line for a second. Okay, they I hate their play calling down there. I really do. They do it all the time. Why do we have so many counter traps and guys that are pulling and almost like these delayed handoff especially when you have a guy like Scarborough or even Zeke just just just hit the hole. I mean, you need one yard one yard, just run the but we have the guard pulling, and I just

these are the plays we saw here. But we've seen this but down in the goal line before, where things just take too much time and you let everybody kind of get to the ball if you just give me the guy go north south and just run the ball and run someone over. I saw it wasn't just Bo Scarborough running it right, was it? Bo got the first team reps. Jordan Chun took some second I remember some

of that too. I mean he was the one that I remember a lot where he was kind of moving to the side and waiting for the guard to get out of his way and got stuffed in the backfield. I think they do that way too often. I mean, this is a big strong line. You have big strong backs just run people over like I don't know which too much counters down at the goal line. And that's I guess that's why I asked that question at the top is I'm not concerned about the offense. It's too

few reps to concern me. But best offensive line in the league. I know Zeke wasn't in there, but they got stuffed twice in a row at the end of the first team and I'm just not sure that that's supposed to happen if they're as good as they're supposed to be. I will throw this out too. And I noticed this. I was expecting that when they got in goal line they would have more offensive linemen on the

field than putting the three tight ends out there. But a lot of times they ran thirteen personnel where they had three tight ends, or twenty three personnel. They had two backs and three tight ends, and they weren't bringing in an extra offensive linemen. I was expecting to see Looney and guys like that. They weren't. They were putting They were putting those tight ends out there. And to be honest with you, there were a couple of plays

with tight I was particularly watching Rico. Rico didn't have a horrible day in goal line yesterday. There were a couple of blocks he made where he sustained the block, he got to this guy, he sustained the block, got

the guy out of the play. So you know, I'm I'm interested to see if that was just them testing things out right about or if that's something that they're going to actually go into the season and really think, Hey, these these tight ends are good enough for us to be able to throw them out there and keep them out there in goal one situation that kind of goes to my point from the other day, which is that are they really going to change that much about the

nuts and bolts of the way they want to do things. I mean, which goal line is a little tricky because you're not running ten personnel from the one yard line. I'm just not going to do it. Well. I mean you kind of like that's every once in a while. Maybe send Jumbo Joe in there instead. But uh, finish your thought about tre various word. Because he did have a nice day, it wasn't glaring enough to make my rundown.

So oh go, okay, well that's because there's something more important I want to talk about as soon as well. I will say this six people. We do our Star of the Day when we have six people that vote on it and three people, and I'm the one that puts it together, and I probably would have put made a fourth in there, but I just said, you know,

let's have some balance, So you go Dorn's Armstrong. I think Doran's Armstrong is continuing to do some really good things to the point where and I said this actually a week ago, I think on the show, and we're there now. I'm tired of you beating number sixty three. Okay, camp posts cool, you can beat him, You're better than him, that's great. I want to see you against Lyall Collins. I want to see you against Tyrant Smith, maybe because

you armstrong is explosive enough. He's doing some really nice things. Let's see him against somebody else and someone with a little bit better. Yeah, but we're gonna talk about word. I keep bouncing around. No, he No, your conception was great. Yeah it was. It was a really great interception. And I don't know, it just brings me back to thinking and I don't want to bring up the whole safety position again, but just but just when you see the death at corner and a few guys like him, that

is starting to make certain place. And maybe that was because Cheetah was out the gay him the opportunity to get something more and and make something out of it. But when you see the death there and then not at safety, I'm like, what the heck is going on? Then we don't we don't have to get into it again. Sorry, sorry, but I want to finish off recapping yesterday's practice. Um not more of a down note. Dan Bailey missed two kicks again yesterday. One of them was the last rep

of path of practice. It was from thirty three yards away. That's the sixteen yard line. That's five missed ones so far and those you've come and y'all worried about Dan Bailey. I'm starting to get a little bit of a raised eyebrow, like, like, tell tell me how to approach this situation. They don't have options, though, do they? But you always have options. I mean there's kickers on the street every year. No. No, what I'm saying is Dan Bailey is going to be

on this roster. There's no to start the season. I don't think there's any Yeah, there's no. There's no doubt in my mind he's going to be on this roster. Question becomes are they concerned enough to where they actually carry a second one? Because if they do that, then I think that's a mistake. Nobody does that, right, I think that body does that. I think the I think the question is is how long is the leash? That's

the question. When do you actually cut ties? Um, we're probably getting we're not so far ahead ahead of ourselves here, but okay, let me rephrase, because I agree you are getting ahead of yourself. But at what point does concern become legitimate concern? I mean, let's wait until the preseason.

Well throw him in the preseason. Let him kick. You raise another interesting point, which is Dan Bailey typically has had the type of status where you're not going to see him on Thursday Night, you know, like you're gonna use Brett Marr to get through that. Though he status is not there yet. Throw him in the preseason. I want to see Dan Bailey kick against the forty nine ers. I would, But here's my question, So what does that mean? Though,

Let's assume that he plays in the preseason. Let's assume that he has in four preseason game games, he has I don't know, six kicks, and let's assume he misses two of them, two of them from makeable distance. Is that changing what you're doing heading into the season? No? No, Dan Bailey to me has deserved the opportunity, of course, to get to the regular season, and nothing is going to change until he loses you two games. That's my opinion.

I agree. Not one game, misses a kick in the third quarter or the fourth quarter of a game and you lose. It happens a lot if he misses two. If there's two games where his misses or extra point where makers affect yeah, yeah, And I'm not talking about things that in the fifties. I mean, just makeable kicks. If it happens in two games relatively early in the year, now, you gotta really felt some conversations. Yeah, but he's putting himself down to like even him being just like an average,

you know, kicker. He we're just so used to him being so automatic and making everything that even and then him missing those. It's not that he's horrible, he's just I think, down to that level a little bit. If you're missing thirty something yard field goals, that's not average, that's below average, Like that's that's expected. You're expected to make those if you're missing on the clip that he is right now where he's missed what was at four in the last two practice. How many of those were

on their thirty I don't remember. All of those were at least forty forty two and less. His two miss his two misses from Thursday were from thirty eight and forty. There you go. I don't know. His first miss yesterday was on the other end of the field. I didn't see how long it was, but I'm pretty sure it was it was. I'm pretty sure it was in that fortieth range you're talking about, you know, manageable distance, yes, exactly, so that you're missing kicks at that clip at that range.

To me, that's not average. That's below average, and that's not expect It's not only below what we expect from Dan Bailey, it's below what you expect from an info kicker. And my and my experience and and you guys can have different opinions here. In my experience, it's typically like this a breakdown. There's ten kickers in the NFL that are just pretty pretty much automatic. Every time, there's ten

more that are pretty good. They're gonna make most of them, but they're gonna they're gonna kind of piss you off every once in a while. Then there's ten. No, then there's ten, there's ten, and then there's thirty more that are like hit or miss. You don't know what to expect. Now, twelve of those thirty gotta be on a team, right, that's thirty. That's your thirty two. But then there's about eight team. So there's a pool of thirty guys somewhere on the streets. I'm are some you know, And right

now I think Dan's in that thirty. I think he was always in this ten over here, and then last year he's kind of gotten in this after the injury, and now he's in that in that mode right now. And I'm not saying not good enough to be on a roster, but you're kind of your lease is just shorter. It just is. Yeah, I'm still giving him the benefit.

I absolutely he's earned the benefit of doubt. And that's why I asked the question, even if you play him in the preseason, I don't know that anything that happens in the preseason unless he absolutely bombs and misses everything. I don't think anything in the preseason is going to change how they enter into the season. It'll just be a matter, like Nick said, if he starts losing you games, then it's going to be a question where they have

to say something, they have to do something. What's Garrett's record, I mean six or seven games over forty nine or something like that, fifty I mean it's close. Everything is close, and this team is always this league is that way, and you've got to have a good kicker. I think we're all in agreement giving Dan the benefit of the doubt for the time being, but it is much more on our radar than it was a week ago. Yeah, fair to say Ye're gonna take our first break, we

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got a comment and quicktion for you guys. My comment is is that I love the fact that the defense is winning all these reps and I can't remember the last time that the Dallas defense was just and I know it's early and this is just training camp, but if this Dallas defense can be in top five, top six, and I know it's early, and even if the offense goes down a little, a great defense and a great running game seems to work in this in this league, I just I just love it. I just want to

see a great defense. So I love Cheetah Bay and at what everybody's doing there. And then my question is is during the Blue and White scrimmage, I know it's pretty much just a practice until the last few minutes and then they get the young guys in there. Do you think Cooper Rush and uh Mike Wide are going to get in there for that. And then my comment is, I love the rotation of the host Nick and Amberg. Just I love that you guys are making me laugh,

So keep the rotation up. Thinks. For the record, Derek, that was a shot at you. That is not a shot at me. I've told you. I've told you number of times. People want variety. Nobody wants. We can get Zeke. I mean nobody wants. I don't know. Talk to some Crimson Tide fans. Different people like variety, and we can give him some variety. It's good, it's good. I would expect that Cooper, Russian, Mike White are gonna see all

the reps during the actual scrimmage. Part of this practice that I mean, yeah, blue the actual Blue White scrimmage is for young players. Dak doesn't qualify as young anymore. Okay, so here though he's only in his third year, he mean, he's can't you got thirty three starts under your belt? No, I'm with you, I agree with you. I'm just saying that's the irony of it is, he's a third year and he's a widely vet at this point. I cannot wait to throw that back at you. At some point.

This whole like variety. Everyone loves variety because you know how many times you say to me, you need to have consistency. People like continuity and things and something completely different. Not really the show, No, I'm not. I'm talking about the fullback position. Yeah, we've moved on from that. You didn't You didn't move on, guys, Yeah, do this on your Show's not mine. Let's just get on it. I was about to say the host over there is not

doing a good job of keeping this thing on the rail. Stop, let's stop it. Right, Here's what I want to do in here's what I want to do. In the second segment, to answer the caller, he had seventeen points. I answered. First of all, he said he had a comment and a question. He made a comment. Then he asked a question about the quarterbacks, and I answer it. But what about the rest of the group, What about him? Okay, what go ahead? No, Well, he's talked about the defense.

This defense isn't good. It was he made this point about all this defense is winning reps, and I can't wait for them to be great. He just said he wanted them to be right, but we're not. We're not doing this we're not I get it, but I do want to ask the question. You said the defense is not good. Are you cool? I don't know that you can say right now that the defense is not good. I mean, I think the most you can say is that they're unproven. I don't think you could say they're

not good. Right well, he said I want a great defense, and I'm like, this is not going to be a great defense. It's not going to be a great defense. It may be a good defense, but it's not gonna be great defense. I'm not I don't think. I don't think right now you could say what they're gonna be. I think they're unproven. I think they have a ton of question marks, and a lot of those question marks could also go the other way and could make them

really great. Like if Sean Lee plays a whole season and plays to the level, Sean Lee's defense will be really good. If Jalen Smith is what they expected him to be when they drafted him years ago could be really really good. If Byron Jones keeps doing in a season what he's doing right now, it could be so All I'm saying is I don't think you could say they won't be. I think you have to say, there's a ton of question marks, and there's a lot that they have to prove right now, we don't know it now.

Even with the offense, if they are able to play better this year and stay on the field more and go down the field, that helps the defense because last year we saw a lot of vocations where they were in and out of the field the offense and then the defense goes in and that affects it because then your defense gets tired and spend way too much time on the field. So maybe you're getting way to ahead

of yourself. And let's get back on track. Dave, I'm ad and absolutely loss for why I spend time making notes for this show. Well, why do we take questions if we're not going to answer? Well, he didn't ask a question, he made a comment. He just said he likes what the defense looks like. You anyway, m here's what I want to do with what's left of the second segment of the show. I have some questions, actually

they're not questions. Their statements that I want y'all to finish for me, just honestly, some of them based on training camp, some of them just things that I want to know the answer to and I'm curious for y'all's opinion. So I'm gonna start out, Nick, I'll throw it to you. The next player to sign a long term deal for the Dallas Cowboys whole Beasley. Oh yeah, M interesting. Yeah,

I wouldn't say Cole Beasley, um contract year. I could see them maybe extending him a little bit um, but is that I don't know if that's a long term deal multiple years. Let's just we'll say multiple. I'm gonna say Cole Beasley before the DeMarcus Lawrence one and um, I don't know, maybe it happened to camp, but I don't think it's anything that's breaking the bank or anything like that. That sounds like it's kind of scoopy right there. I'm no, Maybe you're hearing some whisper maybe imply a

little implier, Yeah, pliery, impliery. I don't know. There's ninety players here. There's ninety players on the on that are out in the field. I don't know how many agents are here, so you know, hey, possible, Hey, okay, I would say him or I was just trying to start uh talk show banter and and I Hey, and you happened. It's the news fascinating, well not quite news. Yeah, that's just my hunch. You started with me. Who else? I'd

like to hear some other answers? Anybody want to throw in? Man, I was actually looking down the roster, and I don't know. I can't I can't think of one that I feel really comfortable with. I do though. It can't be d law Right, Is that? Why can't be? I mean? And well, I mean I thought that was the I don't know, you said the first one, Yeah, which I mean, they could wait till last they could wait, they can wait till the season. He can't do it right now. No,

he cannot do it. That's what I meant. Okay, And I think I think, if you're just taking a safe route, I would say him, because that's probably the guy you look at right now and say, if anybody's deserving of a contract, that would be a veil that would need to be done in the next addressed in the next year. The easy answer is DeMarcus Lawrence. Watching these practices, I feel more and more confident that that I agree is a thing that will happen. He's basically your strongest guy

on defense. So you have to do whatever you can to be ald a defensive line. But see the thing is that question wouldn't have been but imposed if you didn't have a guy in there too. Can you answer some of these DeMarcus is what made me think of that question. I didn't know if there was someone else that was actually I mean, actually, he's got he's under

he's under contract. Here's the deal. Let's assume for a second that he has a really good season this year with the Cowboys, consider maybe going ahead and giving him a new deal that maybe a little bit less than what they think he would get on the open market,

just to go ahead and get it done right. We've seen him do that before too, like a guy has a good year and then go ahead and give him a little something like oh man, we love you, but it's not what they would get if they stayed another year and did really well and then you got a battle with an open market or put a franchise tag

on him or something like that. That's a possibility. We just have to wait and see how he goes this year, and especially with Richard being in here and seeing maybe what he can convert Byron into, then maybe yeah, I could also see in the middle of the year, maybe if things are going well, you try to get Tavon Austin And isn't this the last year of his deal? Yes, he's never played a snap for the Cowboys, so let's get ahead of hers. Derek. The unknown player who has

impressed you the most is Blank. And when I say unknown, I mean he can't be a starter, maybe not to beach our various award as of yesterday, because the things he did in that practice yesterday. But I understand, I understand that. But but the fact of the matter is the number of plays he made yesterday. It's one thing if you'd have made one play and then you're like, oh, he stepped okay, a little sell the guy was. There were at least three times when I was like, again, like,

I think he had just a phenomenal day yesterday. So I definitely think he is a guy that that now is on everybody's rate. Let me answer it for you. I think your answer should be thanks Nick ninety two, Brian Price. Okay, but he's always been on my radar. I was talking about I was talking about him in the off season. He was the best one technique there. If if Joe and Flower Mound needs to like. Brian Price counts. Brian Price absolutely counts. He's about a lot.

I liked it. I loved him Last year when he got hurt, I thought it was gonna be a significant loss for them because I thought he was the best guy they had there in the middle age. You feel like you feel strongly about this. It was your answer. Oh dang good, go nick Um. Joe Thomas is a guy that I've like, Joey Joe. You know, he's played a lot here with with Sean Leout. He's a guy that people kind of forget on the on the guys that they signed because Alan Hearns is a player that

that was new Deontay Thompson. Joe Thomas has kind of went under the radar, but I think he's actually played well. He's going to fit into this mix of special teams, maybe some nickel or something. I'll go with Lance Lenoir just because I have not been a fan of his and I just haven't. And last year I felt that during the preseason, I practice it was mainly practiced. I felt that the Cowboys gave him plenty of chances and there would always be something like him not catching the

ball or dropping it and not really doing much. And I know the Cowboys like him and they've stucked with him. And now I'm trying to see maybe what the Cowboys have seen in him, of him kind of making certain plays and making it happen. But that was one that I haven't been a fan of, and starting to change my mind a little bit. Okay, I'm gonna stick with you because this is just right up your alley. The guy I need to see more from at this camp

is blank. You will not hold back the guy that you need to see more at this camp who's not showing you enough right now? Oh okay, okay. Rico gathers, what is up? I don't know? I mean, can everyone do that? I can go okay, no, but he is He's the one that keeps me kind of confused because he'll make certain place for you and he he looks promising, but it's just not fully convincing. I don't know exactly

how far this project will go to. I don't know if he makes the team, but he's just not convincing me. As of tight end. I would love love for the Cowboys to move him position and put him somewhere else. That's something that I really doubt he will be in for because any other position would not be maybe uh starish enough for him. And we know the kind of guy he is a good point, so I don't know that that might be tough on him to actually do that.

And I don't see the Cowboys actually making that kind of move, But that would be my move if I had to run this thing. Move Rico on the line, put him there, let him block. All right, Derek, Okay, go ahead, but ahead, I'm trying to streamline this and get us with you wherever you want to go. The guy I don't need to see another snap from until September ninth is easy. I don't need to see nothing else. He is ready for the season and he doesn't need to do anything else. Just let's get to the sea.

Can I answer that first, that question that she did about Rico, because my answer is not gonna be liked. Go for it. But the guy that needs to do we need to see it a little more from is Dak Prescott, because he were you not just been talking about how good he's doing. We need to see more. We need to see more. You need to do a little bit more he needs to make. Well, that's the problem.

It's both. Trevarius Ward got Player of the Day the other day Byron Jones made a play of the day when he came running in and bocked knocked the ball down. But the issue is is the ball wasn't there. Lens lanor had um Byron Jones beat on that play should have been a touchdown. Trevarius Ward was beaten badly by Michael Gallup. That ball wasn't there ward, it was underthrown. He picked it off in a nice play, pushed him

to the ground every while. Now he's the player of the day, but if that ball was out there like he needed to be, and that's his deep ball has not been that great, especially on the deep ball. Dak on the deep ball, say that that's what needs to be a little bit better because it hasn't been there and it hasn't been there. And if Trevarius Ward, I mean he was beaten, I mean, great job to stay

with the play and make the ball. But you know what I'm saying, if the ball was out there a little bit more, and I think that's one thing this that Dak needs to be really improve. Yeah, check down Charlie. He's he's got that down. He needs to be able to convert those. He threw that past to Beasley, you know, and Beasley is streaking down the field and we don't

see the deep ball. That's all I'm saying. But I'm just saying, because you've been talking about Dad, he's good, and what if he what if he shows it to you like that's he's gonna show you. I know, I know it's You're right, He's gonna show it against Cincinnati. Yeah, that's when that's right. If he does, if he doesn't play well, if he's never been any when he gets

to the game, he plays another level. But I will I mean we I thought we talked about this on Friday Show, the fact that we had everybody kind of chime in and say what he thought of the top ten, and there were there were some ballots that had that didn't even have him on the list, and others that had him far down on the list like eight or nine.

I mean it it was to me that's telling because there's not a camp that I can remember, unless you want to go back to when the Cowboys were really deficient at quarterback, where you didn't say yeah, we know the quarterbacks have been great. Let's talk about somebody else, right, And it's and I asked you this question, Nick, I was like, I couldn't recall. I couldn't recall just a great throw during camp, something that made me go, holy crap,

that's a great throw. I didn't I don't remember, And I think actually may have been you, Dave, And you mentioned another pass that he actually did throw that early on in camp. Right. But but again, it just hasn't been a lot of those wild moments. And again maybe that's just because that's not the kind of player he is in practice. That's something that translates when he gets to the game and he's able to use his legs

as well. At all factors, some of his best players have been on the run, which you don't really want that in practice anyway, because you're not actually allowed to sack the quarter back. Right, you don't need to see another snap from Zeke. I agree with you. I also would throw Shaun Lee in there. To be totally honest with you, at this point, you don't even want to see him. I don't want to see him. I don't want to see one. Just stay, stay where you are.

I do have a little bit of a problem with not seeing a guy a guy at all during Lawrence during this time of the year. It's a good one, you know, I do not not if at all, not if he's on that count all the fights between the old line and d line. Um, some of this guy is like you don't don't freaking hurt sag Marian, don't hurt Travis, don't hurt, tiring, tiring, don't be jumping. Good he get the get out. I was going to ask about a d Law. We've seen him kind of move

across the line. I don't know either he's trying to be the leader there and kind of show hey, do more things, or are we maybe seeing could he be a guy that that goes inside and on certain plays, you know JPP when he was at his peak with the Giants, he was all over the place. Are we going to see that because you do have Gregory, you have Tapper, you have got I'm in say Taco on the outside, they could rush. Maybe this is a preview of like Dlaw could be inside. And if you noticed

yesterday they did the same thing Crawford. Crawford went down the line yesterday and one on one and went against several different guys down the line. And I do think that that's part of it. I think they want to move these guys around them their rushman as their as the head of their unit says, and I think part of that is they wanted to have that position flex well. They can in certain pass rush situations move them around a little bit and try to exploit the weaknesses of

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a call from Pierre and Las Calinas. You know Pierre you want to come out here. Yeah, yeah, man, let's do it. What you got hey? I just wanted to say, man, I think every unit on that team had something to prove, even every player has something to prove. Zeke, running backs, quarterback, receivers, old line, d lines, linebackers, corner of safety. He's a

special teams. Everybody has something to prove. I think that in and of itself, it's going to make the team pretty competitive and move them, motivate them to have a pretty good record this year. Agreed, Great, Yeah, you have any any other question? Um, Now, that's it. Man. I offer up a critique, but that's not the time to place for it. Well thanks for the call, man, appreciate it. Stay cool down there. Tajas will be back sooner. You know another guy that I just thought of, I mean, yes,

I I absolutely agree. Everyone needs to prove something here on the team. Well, there's a few addressed that. Go ahead with your no. I was gonna point out Taco Charlton. He's another one that he has gotten better and he's put on some weight and kind of gotten stronger, but it's still I don't feel that he has the right amount of strength just yet. Sometimes you see him going into these battles and the guys just like bringing him down to the ground. He doesn't have enough power just yet.

It has not consistently translated to the practice field. Yeah, I say that as a Taco defender, which I think he's looked better than he did as a rookie. Let me ask you this question. He's not He doesn't look like a guy who's making that cliche to jump. Have you made Have you made the distinction in your mind of when he looks better? Because one thing I think

I'm noticing I could be wrong about this. One thing I think I'm noticing is when I've seen him do really well, happens to be when he's going up against seventy nine, And so it makes me wonder, is he really doing better or is it all reliant? I think I notice him do better in team situations like he maybe he's just not a one on one guy. Maybe he needs somebody to help him run a stunt or take some pressure off him. I don't know, he needs

more power. I'm glad you mentioned I'm glad you mentioned seventy nine, though that goes back to my list, which clearly I have something in mind. But I want to ask y'all the big problem we aren't talking about is and when I say that, I like, I don't want to hear about safety. We've done that I don't want to hear about defensive tackle. What I didn't have you noticed out here that could be a problem, not I'm

not talking about. And while y'all think i'll offer up and this is one, Oh well, go ahead, I got one because I was going to ask you about something else, because because Dorin's Armstrong's making some plays and that's good, and Gallop's making some plays and going down the line here, and Connor Williams is doing some things. Is it a problem that Layton vander esh really hasn't stood out yet? Or is this is what I keep saying all the time about being physical and you can't see these linebackers

in practice. Maybe we'll see it in the game. So far, he's nothing's really standing out from from Layton just yet. Issues. I give him the benefit on that because of the game, I really do. I give him the benefit too, I really do. Like I'm mentally I'm just waiting for games. But it is funny that he's asking this question the day after Jalen Smith made one of the plays of camp that didn't involve a tackle at all, which him covering the field. Yea, and you look really good in cover,

like he was Yeah, impressive. It was impressive. So you can you can't stand out as a linebacker for reasons other than physicality. Can I give you one? Can I give you one answer your question? Yeah? What you guys are all concerned about Alan Hearns. I think he started off camp and at the beginning of camp I was pretty excited. But that's kind of Wayne. Now. Part of that's been he's been off the field. He had some

injury issues. But it's kind of Wayne to little bit and it's starting to make me wonder, Like, I don't know, I'm just a little bit concerned, Not not overly concerned, but a little bit concerned because he is expected to step in and I guess, for lack of a better way to put it, be your top receiver. Um, And I just don't know if I've seen enough of those kind of plays out here as camp has worn on, I'll tell I mean, look at I mean, go down

the wide receiver depth chart. Everybody that's practiced on a regular basis has made at least one, if not a few, wild plays. Alan Herns has made some nice plays. He hasn't made any plays that make me say wow. Let me ask you this from from what we've seen them in their career, ten being Julio Jones, Odell Beckham. What is what would you say one to ten is Cole Beasley? This is correct what you're saying. Those two guys are ten. Yeah, those guys are tens. All right? What's what's Beasley? Coals

of War war? Yeah? Okay, what were you going to say? Maybe a little higher than that. I don't know if six or seven, But what's what's what is Alan Hearns four? Maybe? I mean, maybe Marchie Murdock is a is a one because he's in the league and all that kind of stuff. So so that being said, the coals A four last year, Yeah, I mean, I'm basily a little higher than that. He's seventy five cats in a season one year. I mean, but that's the thing. And that's the same thing about

one Alason where he caught more than like forty balls. Yeah, I mean, both of them are kind of one season type ten ten year a pro bowler every year. One year you're a camp body and training camp and then you's five six whatever. But but my point is is what's Terrence Williams same thing? Alan Hearns Deantey Thompson. That's my issue is that, like I think they're all going to be out there, it's like basketball, like an average team. Yeah, he might score twenty to night, he might score four.

Maybe if he does score four, he scores twenty. You don't have that guy that you could count on. And that is what we argued all off season is do they really need that in the Mets? That's by design. It's by design. And I think equally as by design is the fact that whoever, like whoever has the bad night isn't going to complain. That's I think that's just as crucial as everything else. But the key is somebody's

gonna have to have a good night. Every game. Somebody's gonna have to step into that role and have a really good day. And can they get that kind of consistency as a group, not as a person, but as a group that every week somebody's gonna step up and make the plays they need to make it a passing game. This lineup just seems like it needs. These receivers just need an Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady to kind of help them. It doesn't need hey, well go get him. What I mean,

you can eat that, go get it? Why not? Okay, this is this is nerdy as hell. Like I would, I would be reluctant to classify this as a big problem. But I'm very curious about the back end of the offensive line depth chart. Why because I actually loved it, the back end of the offensive line depth chart. I'm you got your five. Yeah, sure you got more than five, you got you got your seven. Just let him go. Okay, sorry, god,

you're not the host. No no, no, he said, he said you got your guy, you got your six because of Cam Fleming. You said seven. I assume you mean Joe Looney, Yes, I do. Just who are your last three? Is my point? Um, you know, to be honest with you, I'm not so worried about the last three because I think where you look at this is if I lose any one of my starters, I feel good about that next guy, at least for that moment. Now what happens beyond that? If I lose two guys that are at

the same position. Let's say you lose two tackles, You're gonna be a little bit in trouble. But guess what, that's every team sure, like that's the nature of the NFL. The NFL set up such that you cannot it's hard to sustain a lot of injuries at one position. I just feel like the back end of the depth chart is a bit redundant because Marcus Martin and Joe Looney are essentially the same player. Honestly, I would love it if Chas Green was good enough to make this team

as a fourth tackle, but he hasn't shown that. Who is going to be your fourth tackle right now? I don't know that they'll have one and he'll just go with three. And that's that therein lives my point, Derek, because I think we would all agree that O line is a great candidate to go short. Yeah, because you have such talented players, but you also have one player that hasn't been able to stay healthy for the last

few years. But right, yeah, to me, this is this is one position where it doesn't matter how many people are practicing on the field, whether you have eight, whether you have nine, whether you have twelve, because you have some practice squad guys. This is about how many guys that you're taking to the game. Chads Green can't. You can't take him to the game. So I think you've got seven seven guys, maybe maybe eight, But I guess

what you're asking is who's eight. I am, And that's my point is Marcus Martin I think will be inactive every game. I think he makes a team and he's inactive until you need him. But I'll tell you this, I don't think they can have a I don't think they can just go with three, not with what has happened with Tyren as far as injuries. So you want to carry nine, I think you gotta have who's your ninth offensive I don't know, to be honest with you,

it's just like we were talking about tight end. That guy may not be on this team yet because I don't I think it would be. I think it would be a bad decision, based upon what we've seen out here this year and based upon what we saw last year, for them to go into this season with Chaz Green

being your four tackle. I agree, Which so at the end of the day, you agree with me because I I don't like their options at tackle after Cam Fleming, right, and I don't like the thought of only having three tackles on this team, right, and that that makes sense. All I'm saying is in most scenarios in the NFL. If you have three quality tackles, you feel really good about where you are. That's the stamp fair offensive mind depth. The only issue becomes how healthy can Tyrn be for

the entire season? That I think is the big issue, which and that's going to make this decision. Interest. We have every right to be concerned about that. He's looked great out here. But forol me once, shame on me, etc. I think Chaz Green is absolutely a right tackle only if he's gonna have to play tackle. He's a right tackle only because he cannot play the left side. If he's going to do his thing. Dac needs to see it happening, and he is okay. Romo always said that.

Romo has always told us, right tackle, do not hold. I don't need you to hold. I can see what's happening and I'll get out of it. Don't hold. I want that guy over here. I need this guy protective. Still. Somehow he was able to see it and spin out. But yeah, I mean, that's that's legitimate. It's a legitimate point. What do they do here? Does any of these tackles do anything? Bryce Johnson, Jake, nobody on this team tackle wise, After Cam Fleming does anything for me. I agree with that.

Broll waiverbire. Yeah, somebody, somebody will come up and you know, all right now that now that we've been downers for ten minutes, um, now go back up. Give me something what is really encouraging that I'll just free read the phrase. The silver lining that we aren't talking about is blank, something that this team is looking pretty good at that we are not dedicating any time too. While y'all think I will throw it out there as usual, Chris Jones gets no love. I think that is something that the

Cowboys should always feel good about. It's something that's always going to help them out in games. No, not trying to throw Dan Bailey under the bus, but Chris Jones has not. He has not wavered the way that we've seen from Dan recently. And on top of that, I'll throw special teams in there because I'm very encouraged by what I've seen from Tavon Austin out here, just in terms of what he might be able to do as a return man and the field position game. I think

that's something that'll be interesting to watch. I think there's a player I don't know if this is the question but I think there's a player that we're not talking a lot about, but he's I think he's going to help them in a lot of ways. And you guys can probably finish my point here in my thought, jamaze Olawally, I think is going to really help this offense as a fullback that can get in there in block, as a pass catcher that can kind of do some things

out of the backfield. He's a leader, he's a special teams guy. This guy is going to really he's going to be a part of this offense in ways that I don't think people are really thinking about right now. Caught a touchdown past yesterday and the goal on part of practice. I think he's going to be the closest thing to a Darryl Johnston type fullback that really is

a part of the pass catching stuff. Not Darryl early on, but later in his career when he was catching a lot of passes but still able to mix it up in there. I hope you're right because I always said and thought that Keith Smith had deceptively good hands. I agree, and they never really gave him a chance to showcase it all right, they didn't. He's a good athlete. He was a good athlete for a tight end as well, and I was kind of shocked that they didn't use

him more and more diverse situations. But you know, for whatever reason they didn't, You got anything I do not. I'm looking up and down this roster and I think we've done. That's the funny that I think we've talked about all of it. The one thing that's still kind of I mean, we've talked a little a good amount about it. But I think a silver lining for me at least, is I think there is some significant depth in the secondary this year, and I think I feel

really good about where the secondary is right now. Now that doesn't mean that we get into some games and they give up some touchdowns and that can change. But right now, what I've seen out here, I feel like, matching up against some of the wide receivers you're gonna have to match up with this year, I feel pretty good about where the Cowboys are. That to me is a bit of a silver line, because I didn't know what to expect coming into camp. Even though we've been

dogging the receivers for the last ten minutes. Yeah, even at that though, you still got to make the plays. And I've said that before, Like there's a lot of times we've seen cornerbacks on this team where you know, they get in position, they have really good coverage and the receiver either still catches a ball or they can't manage to get the interception. We've seen him make some really big plays, some really good plays out here, I think.

So I still think that you still have to do the job even if the receivers aren't great, and even if the passing isn't great. Gonna hate me for this one because I'm getting ahead of myself, but I don't care. Last thing before we go. The main thing I want to see Thursday night in San Francisco is blank, okay, um. I want to see the defense get off the field early. I want to see them make some stops because I think that unit will probably be the one unit that

has the closest to the starters. I could see more starters playing on defense than on offense, and so the first drive of the game or whatever. I don't know, anythink Jimmy G's gonna be playing for them Maybe I don't know. I just get off, get off the field. I want to see that that right there, that that because I remember some of the other games we've seen where the Rams took the ball and went down the

field maybe two years in a row or something. But that's that's really the closest thing to like what this team is going to be about. Unless you want to say Dan Bailey making kicks, that would be nice. I want to see one of these tight ends step up and makes some plays in the passing game. That's what exactly what I was about to say. You don't have anyone that's proven necessarily aside from Jeoff Sway. That is Jeff.

That's the that's the issue. His name is Jeff. But the fact that you're calling him that makes me think this he needs to proves of thing is I always call I've always called him Jeoff Sways Jeff sw Yeah. But anyways, point is the tight ends um are gonna have to take advantage of this time and kind of prove something because otherwise maybe the Cowboys I'm gonna need to bring someone. I'm gonna be looking at all tight ends. I'm gonna be looking at the number forty eight for

the forty nine ers. He makes a play in the fourth quarterbilling looking at all tight ends no doubt, no doubt. If both Scarbrough makes some plays with the line that's probably gonna be blocking for him for most of this game, then I'll start to buy the hype a little bit. And he flashed yesterday, not just on the goal line, but he want to compete Grill. It seems like he's getting better the more reps he gets, because he's not

getting a lot. But we all took him a while though. Yeah, we're about to say the same Argu'm gonna let you see it say say exactly what I was gonna say. None of that matters unless if he can go down on special teams, can't play special teams. But it's always the case these receivers. They get judged by who can catch, who can block? I mean who can yeah, who can block down the field and all that. But the guy that makes the team is the guy that can tackle, yep,

the guy that can run. If anybody runs down that field and jars the ball loose in a fumble on a punt coverage, all of a sudden he just goes And now Keith though Quinn's like, whoa what about this guy? Yeah? So bart bo Scarboro, good runner, big strong, powerful, go down there, make a huge tackle on special teams and

now you're pretty much on the fifth. And I actually heard I was watching a NFL network the other day and there was I can't remember who it was, it was a special teams or it was either a head coach or special teams coach that was talking in an interview um and he said, Hey, I really believe with the changes that they've made where you can't have the wedges and stuff like that, what you're gonna start to see is special teams that don't have the big guys

out there at all, which put the premium now on linebackers, receivers, running backs, guys like that that can actually run down and actually make a tackle. So that's how you have to make the team, is being able to actually play special teams. You're not one of the starters. You're gonna have to be able to play on special teams. And I think that becomes even more of a premium now that you're gonna see those transitions to those units. It'll

be fun to actually get to watch that. I mean, you know they don't really do they do special teams, but it ain't it ain't live. So that's something to watch that was a job today day, all the time we have on Cowboys Break. Thank you, Derek. We'll be back tomorrow. I don't know who's hosting. We'll figure it out. I'll be back, We'll be we'll be there. Thanks for listening and watching Dallas Cowboys dot com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club