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into the show. Just just a gaze, just engage. But in cowboys world, in Garrett's world, today is a Friday, so I wanted to get it and I wanted to talk about several guys that showed up on the practice report. We don't need to do inactives or any of that today,

We'll do that tomorrow. But as far as some of the line guy we know, Tyren Smith still hasn't done anything as of right now, and from what I heard Jerry Jones say, it would end up being kind of a game day decision again similar to what happened last weekend or last Thursday. But then as far as Zack Martin, and saw Philo again. Guys that are a key to the offensive line, they've been on a limited basis. Were they doing some things today as well? Limited? Yeah, it's

the it's the same. It's the routine that we always talk about, which is, you know, if you're doing something by Thursday heading into Friday, it's it's probably a pretty good sign that you're going to play, especially the more veteran you are. Zach and Xavier have been in uniform the last two days. I feel really good about them practicing. Have not seen Tyren Smith since Sunday. Was not there today,

was not there yesterday. Jerry Jones said, you know, we'll see how he feels on game day, which you know, for Jerry Jones to say that much is not a good sign. I really a trend toward thinking that Cam Fleming is going to have to play left tackle in this game. And then again, the old line has finally started clicking with the changes in the coaching and you know, adding so a field on there. It's been flowing pretty

good and doing their job. Now when you look at this report, although it's nothing crazy, but when you see certain guys being limited and stuff like that, how alarming does this start becoming to an area that is just now finally starting to click. Well, they have to be perfect on offense to win this game. They can't like have any you can't get down in the red zone and then they take a sack or a penalty and then kick a field goal. Field goals aren't going to

win this game. So you know, you you have to be perfect, I think, to win. And then you have to get at least thirty points to win the game. And so therefore, in my opinion, so therefore, all the injuries situations, even if it's one or two plays, they could be the ones that affect them from stalling a drive. And so you know, it's in any other situation you think, yeah, I think they could manage it. And you're gonna play Washington, I think they could manage it. But against New Orleans

that they just can't. They have no room for error. Yeah, and tape on Austin is still a question mark. And it came it came to mind, and I laughed because at the game, you know, he got on top of the bench and it's like moving around and dancing around, and it reminded me of what Nick has been saying from practice. Trying to take a video today and I almost had my phone taken from me, so it didn't work. Yeah. No, they take that stuff pretty seriously, so I try to

take but it would have been a great video. He is a dancing fool. It was. He looks ready to go. I don't think he plays this week. I think he plays against the I was about to say the Giants, because it seems like every time, well no, it seems like every time they come back from from the Thanksgiving break it's always at the Giants, But that's not true. This year, it's Philly. I think he plays for Philly. You get along. I mean it's basically a half bye week,

so I would make sense him for December. That's that's pretty good. I'd love to see him now with a Marie Cooper and what they got going on offense. I think he'll be a great addition if they can use

him right. How do you think they would utilize him? Well, the same, honestly, the same way that I've been wanting them to use him all season, which is he's your gadget player, and now he can be your legitimate gadget player because you've got a wide receiver threat, Like you got a legitimate threat out there that can take it to the house on any given play. You've got a running back that can take to the house on any

given play. Now you have a gadget player that can also take it to the house on any given play. Use him as a gadget player, use him underneath, use him on in the rounds, like, use him on stuff that just throws the defense off and makes him think about one more thing that they didn't have to think about before, which just creates more opportunity to get one on one situations. With Zeke in space and with a Mariy Cooper in space, I just love everything about that.

If they use him the right way, I want that desperately. I have the next to no faith that it will happen. Well, I will say this, and maybe it's just a function of them winning, but it does seem and feel to me like off offensively, they've done some things a little bit different since they've added Amari Cooper into the mix.

So I'm honest, I'm interested to see how that looks with Amari Cooper in the mix, how that looks now when you add him back in, because I do think they're changing up some things offensively on and just strategically the kinds of things they're doing. Yeah, we'll see, Okay, we'll see. Hopefully it works out and he's able to bring up some actions that we haven't seen before. I would think Connor Williams will be your swing tackle now. I mean he left tackle right. It's a good point,

you know. I mean if if Tyron, well, Tyron might be he might be active in this game the same way he was active last week, which you know it could, but that was a break glass in case of emergency situation. So because it was Redman out yet Redman had a concussion so he was out. He will be I mean

he'll be available for this though. So because he will be back and being your guards center backup, I think I think Connor Williams has to be your tackle backup, unless you think on the practice Poe um crap I left my roster upstairs. Uh, there's definitely they're campos is he's still here and yeah, no, I think you'd probably stay with what you got. I do think by Hooker, by Crook, I think an offensive lineman is probably an active this week, though, but I don't like I don't

like the idea. It's kind to me. I don't know that statement. I don't like the idea of Tyrone being active and not starting and being your backup, because because of how good a player he is, if he's not starting, that means he's really bad off. That's I don't like putting him in in a in a pinch situation with him really bad. I would I mean, if he can't play, either he's playing or not. In my opinion, if he can't play, I would make said about DeMarcus ware back

in oh nine. You know, either's playing or he's not, and he's the defensive player of the week. Yeah, just kind of bring a little bit different though a little a little different because with him you can at least rotate him into a play here, play there, your tackle. He's gonna be out there, and that's well. They're both were laying down the ground, not moving. It's it's an

interesting parallel. It's an interesting parallel just in the sense that they are both in a class of player that they don't need a practice rep to go out there agree with that game, which is why if it was anybody else, there's maybe there's probably five players on this team who fit into that category where if it was anybody else, I'd be like, he's down, but you really you can't rule him out until the inactives come out ninety minutes prior to kick right, I'm agreeing with all that.

What I'm saying is if they make the determination, as they did last week, that he's so bad off right that he cannot start and play, then don't put him in there at all. Don't because he's such a warrior. If he can't play at all, then putting him out there, if you get in a pinch, ain't gonna be good because he can't play. Literally, he cannot play. I agree with you, and I kind of think that they know

that too. That's I mean, they only they needed a left tackle for one play last week when Fleming lost his shoe, and they didn't put him in the US Connors exactly right. It's like, well, great glass in case of emergency, like clearly not It clearly means he's not ready or it wasn't ready to go right, glass in case of emergency, And they got the little hatchet they usually have in there, but it doesn't have a thing

on the top of it. It's just the wooden stick, like it's not gonna do any good, bro, So we'll see that's you know, I'm gonna it's definitely in a situation where you know, we'll get to the game early and have our binoculars on what Tyrants had before the game and all that good type of stuff. That's really interesting. Now, obviously we've seen the struggles that Connor has had at the guard position, just you know, room for improvement and

growth that needs to happen. If that was to happen, where you now move him at Tyrant's position as a tackle, which is a position where we've seen in the past how much it affected Dik Prescott and what they were doing when it's not well played chess? Right, everyone remembers chess. So who's going to be here? If Connor was to be moved there, how much do you think he would struggle there? And how much? I mean, yeah, well, I

remember he'd be moved for as a backup. I mean well yeah yeah, but if he needed yeah, he had to come in. I mean. The problem is is this team doesn't have a lot of tight end help that can that can help Chip, you know, and you'd have to leave some running backs, and it would change how you do you have to give help, and it would change how you want to play your offense. Um, I mean who do they have on that right side over there? I mean who Jordan Camp Camp? Jordan? Yeah, Yeah, he's

pretty good. Yeah, he's a pretty good player. So yeah, I think I think it would be the thing about Connor Williams is that he is He's a fighter. I mean he will he will go in there and scrap, and I think he would be Okay, I don't think he would be that great, but I think he would be better than than cha. Yeah, he's got more fighting than than Chatz. I mean, he just does. I mean we saw that since the day he got here, and I think wherever they end up putting him, he will

be a good player. This week, you expect that they'll probably practice him a tackle. Yeah, that'd be my expectation, right, yep, if they don't think Tyrn can go, especially even if they did, I think Tyron could go. My point is there's a better chance that he's going to have to get in the game this week at tackle there than it is a guard. Right. I'd like to see him get some reps there. I bet he's doing that, especially if you got Redman back, you just let Redman be

your your swing center of guard. Yeah, and look at him as a swing tackle at least for this week, until you get to a point where you feel more comfortable with where Tyron is from a health standpoint. I think that's probably a better option, right, all right, it is a good point from you. A g that right as the which I mean, you know, Fleming played last week and they were all right, but you know the line was kind of rounding into a better forum, and

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one for yourself. If this is my John Deardealer dot com slash football. Back to the Breaker, Welcome back. This is the second segment off the break. Um. Yeah, the Saints. They're an okay team. They're coming to town tomorrow to play against the Cowboys on Thursday. Yeah, all right, they're pretty good. They I mean, Nick's right, he could do this like we don't need to I don't need to do the thing where I talk for like eight minutes.

This is well. Statistically, they're not the best offense in the league, but they might as well be something interesting that that I bet fans don't know. And what Brian said when he was watching him was that this is the best offensive line he's seen all year. They are impressive and that shouldn't be surprising. I think Jason Garrett basically said this, you know, I mean everybody knows Drew Brees,

everybody knows what he can do. But much like Tony Romo, this team wasn't very good when he was just put carrying everything on his back. I mean he was throwing for five six thousand yards a year and they were winning seven or eight games like three years in a row. Like you know, people were talking about firing Sean Payton and blah blah blah. So what do they do. They draft Tron Armstead in the I think the third round.

He developed into a great player. If they spend a first round pick on Andrews Pete, who's now their guard. They traded Jimmy Graham for Max Unger who's been you know, rock Steady center for years. Larry Warford they get from Detroit. He's a premium draft pick. And Ryan Ramsack is a first round pick at right tackle. So I mean, it's not quite the level of resources that the Cowboys have sunk into their line, and not much different, not that

much different at all. And Toronto Armstead is probably not going to play this game, which likely means Jermon Bushrod long, long time better he was playing tackle when where had that game? Was him? Yeah, he's still playing. He's been around for a minute. Um. But so this offensive line is fantastic. They are leading the league in sacks allowed eleven by the way, the Cowboys are dead last with thirty eight. Just to I mean, hey, the offensive line's

playing better. But even in a game like last week, whether you thought they played pretty well, they gave him four sacks, absolutely eleven sacks. And that's the thing that's any anytime you play a quarterback like this, like the offensive line is obviously great. He gets the ball out so fast, like he knows where he wants to go, and he made he reads his progressions so quickly. But

they're dominant in the running game. Obviously, you know, having great running backs helps, but you just they they bulldoze guys. M So okay, their fifth overall, they're sixth through their sixth and passing yards which yeah, Drew Brees is only seventh. You know, there's six quarterbacks above him. Like this team is not in yards in yards, That's what I mean. But I know, I'm just Oh, I think he's gonna win the MVP. I think he's playing ahead of everybody

else this year. Um, but they don't lean on the pass the way that they did their sixth and running offense. Their first in scoring offense thirty seven point two points per game. They've scored at least thirty points in nine of their eleven games. They have hit forty points and fifty points four or five times. They're seventy three percent in the red zone, which is third best in the league. They have scored a touchdown on seven of their eleven

opening possessions this season. I'm just rattling off stuff that I thought was impressive. Breeze something something bad, like something they're bad at, something that they're bad at. Yeah, they're not good. They're not gonna get into sixty. They can't do it for some reason, sixty is just that boundary. Then they can't get selusive like the MVP for Breeze. It just does not happened. But I guess, I mean they don't. They don't have a they don't have a

rock steady option at receiver. If you can take Michael Thomas away, I was about, okay, if you can take Michael Thomas, Okay, let me finish. That's I mean, that's why they went and tried to get Dez Bryant. They have Trey Kwan Smith who's a rookie, Ted Gin has been hurt all year. Uh, and then Austin Carr and you know, they have all these undrafted guys, but they don't have they don't have. And they brought in Brandon Marshall. That's worth that's worth remembering. But he hasn't really had

a chance to do much. Um. But then yes, actually the Falcons did it on Thursday night. He at thirty eight yards. But what happened with the other guys, Like why she asked me to say something good? What do you want me to do? I don't know, Hey, we're exploring different options. Heibly do. Michael Thomas was held to thirty eight yards. He's only had two games this season where he was held to less than sixty nine yards, and he has never had back to back quote unquote

bad games. On top of that, Alvin Kamara is not technically a receiver, but he's got more receptions and more receiving yards than any wide receiver on this team that hasn't been there all ye. Factor that in with his Oakland games too, He's only got forty four catches. He wasn't catching balls. Okay, Alvin Kamara's got fifty seven catch. Put that against what Amari's projection would be if he would have been doing this all season. Ever, makes you

feel better? I think I think Kamara was going to get like a hundred catches, right, He's he's not quite on that pace, but he's on fifty seven catch with five to play. I mean he's gonna come close. He's eighty last year. I mean he's huge, Like as you do you ever remember running back getting one hundred catches in a season? Larry Centers that also had rush a lot of rushing yards. Oh no, I think Ladinian maybe

had a hundred maybe it seems a lot. Reggie Bush came close a couple of times when he was with the Saints too, they that primarily was a receiver. Like the way they used him, Kamara is probably I mean, Kamara does way more. Damn it well, actually that is maybe the biggest misconception. Like again, okay, I grew up a Saints fan. I have not had a ton of time to watch the Saints over the last year's. Like I think of Kamara as Reggie Bush, like he's this

gap back. He's not. No, he's not. He's runs between the tackles and does it well, yes, very well. He is so much better than I gave him credit for going into watching this team. He is a one cut and go guy, like it seems like. And again to the credit of that offensive line. He is to the second level in the blink of an eye. But you loved him coming out of college. I did. But it's still fascinating. I mean he was he had that scatback what's the word, I'm the lab reputation. Yeah, he had.

You know, he came out of Tennessee with like six hundred career rushing yards and more receiving yards. You know. But he is better than he gets credit. Forward between the tackles. They obviously have Ingram too. The big thing that's honestly, it pisces me off watching the Saints because it's what I want to see the Cowboys do. And obviously the Saints have better they just have better weapons, like Michael Thomas. He's just as good as Amari Cooper

in my opinion. Obviously, the running backs are freaky, and I know Zeke is great too, but they use misdirection. So I'm so envious of the way they do it because just like what I wanted to see from Tavon Austin going into this season, they motioned somebody on every play.

They'll you know, they'll have Ingram and Kamara in the game together and they'll motion Kamara in from the slot and fake the jets weep and hand it to Ingram up the middle, or they'll give the jet sweep, or they'll fake they'll fake a fullback dive and toss it out wide to their running back, or they'll motion a wide receiver across the formation just to make the linebackers hesitate. They do it pretty much every time they snap the ball.

I watched all of one game and part of another three, and they did it far, far, far more often than they didn't. And so you combine that with the power of their offensive line and the respect you have to give you the quarterback. It defenses don't know what to do. They like they head sitate, and all of a sudden, somebody's six yards thou field. So that's the thing that scares me the most. Play Actually, that's like the key

to success right there. How you're able to come up with different kinds of plays and ways to deceive your opposing defense. And to me, again, like you said something that the Cowboys are obviously lacking, and to me personally, I think the Cowboys have enough talent on the roster in the offense to be able even with Dak being Dak and what he's done so far, I think they would be able to do that have if they had better play calling. You know, that's a good point, especially

when even talking about the Saints. And this may go back a little farther than some of our listeners were watching football, But Drew Brees when he was with the San Diego Chargers, he wasn't a great quarterback. He was a good quarterback, he wasn't a great quarterback when you paired him up with Sean Payton in New Orleans. That's when Drew Brees became the Drew Brees that we all know and love today. Right, That's when he became that great quarterback that's up there in the top echelon of

quarterbacks in NFL history. And I would make the argument that if you never would have paired him with a guy that has the offensive mind and capability of Sean Payton, he may have never realized that. I am a big believer in all these guys in the NFL have talent. What differentiates the guys have become great from the guys that are just good is not only their talent and their work ethic, but also the coach knows how to give them the right platform for their talents to shine.

And I think that makes all the difference For a guy like Drew Brees. I mean, there were like he didn't have. He wasn't a quarterback that was considered to have great arm talent when he left San Diego. I mean, he was coming off a shoulder injury and that was one of the reasons why teams weren't why they let him go. Miami wasn't willing to sign him and San Diego. I have six years. He was drafted in O one

and left and No. Five, so he was there for his rookie contract based So I mean, it's just to me, it's one of those situations where that if you need, if you want to look no farther than that situation to see how much a coach and what a coach does with a player makes a difference. Look at Drew Brees. I think it's a great example of it. And Belichick and Brady I'm sure, absolutely absolutely, I yeah, but also Sean Payton, I mean, also Breeze and Peyton, you know.

I mean it goes hand in hand, that's my point. Yeah, it goes for both. Yeah. I don't think he's a great coach because he's had him, you know, right, Um, I don't think he could just go anywhere and be just as good. So, but it's appairing. It's a good it's just a good pairing. Right, does Montana become great without Rice? And does right Rice become great without Montana? People? Rice is great with Rice, was great with Steve Young,

Rice was great with Rich Cannon. Rice was great. Yeah, Rice was greatly and was great with He made the Pro Bowl was forty. Yeah, pretty good. You know what? Real quick? You said one hundred catches? Yea, lt had one hundred catches in two thousand and three for seven hundred yards, and he just had sixteen hundred yards rushing on offensive and did not make the Pro Bowl? How did he not? Me? I don't know. I'm not looking that up, but I'm just saying three didn't make the

Pro Bow. So Priest Holmes was there? No, you had one hundred priests. Well I'm saying I'm saying Priest Holmes was in the Pro Bowl. I'm not twenty three hundred yards. Yeah, that was like when Priest was doing crazy stuff for Cannon. Yeah. I still I'm like who, I'm still like, who else would Herds Martin? I don't even know Jerome Battest. I can't imagine any of them would have had a season better than that. Maybe it's just an error from pro

and I bet twenty touchdowns combined touchdown? Maybe back then they cared for a different thing on each team. Apparently, Really you're looking at three Pro Bowl so as Priest Holmes in the AFC and the NFC was Deuce McAllister, Let's go dude, how do you only have one Pro Bowl on or one running back on your probrale and reserves? I don't know if they huh so so he maybe he made as a reserve that year. It just says has a little astick if you made the Pro Bowl

and he didn't. He didn't make it that year, that sounds like an all Pro kind of season running back with a hundred freaking catches, I don't see. Deserves were Marshall Falk and Michael Bennett and the AFC. The reserves were Ricky Williams with Danny and Thomason and Jason. So he did make it as Okay, that's still crazy, Yeah, that would be crazy if he didn't make it feel better now I don't. I don't listen to talking cowboys, but I bet if I, but you should. Why not

listening to all them? As I'm busy, I got I'm the listeners absolutely shore sitting next you sit in between a triangle of Rob Mickey. I know I get enough talking talking cowboys all day for if I didn't. If I did listen to talking cowboys, I bet I would hear stuff about how the Saints get going vertical by a get going horizontal like they love, you know, Kamara on the jet sweep, Kamara on the toss sweep Ingram

does it too. But the thing that's I think that actually works out really well for the Cowboys because they have sideline to sideline speed. Obviously, Jalen and vander Esh DeMarcus Lawrence is great against the run. These cornerbacks are willing to come up and tackle. Byron and Cheeto probably didn't get enough credit for their work doing that against Washington the other day. The thing that scares me um, I think Drew Brees is going to just attack the

middle of the field against this team. Like he's got two tight ends. He trusts Dan Arnold and Ben Watson. He's obviously Drew Brees, so he's not afraid to throw anywhere. Mike Thomas can play in the slot, does a lot of his work, you know, coming you know, cutbacks and out routes from the middle of the field, and I

think they've played well. But Jeff Heath and Nixavier Woods are not impervious to these types of things, and I'm just I'm worried that that's where they're going to try to do their damage because you have running backs and tight ends, and then a receiver who can play in the slot, all of whom are comfortable doing that, and a quarterback who's not afraid to make a single throw. And I just think that could be problematic for them

and something that I would watch for. Yeah, I think the secondary Cowboys secondary, I think they're in position a lot. I don't think they get interceptions as much as they probably should. And I think that a quarterback like this is a quarterback that can be dangerous for them because he can throw it to tight windows. He can throw to guys who aren't necessarily open, but he'll put it in a place where they can get it. And I think that and that's I mean, that's not just this

second day, that's every secondary. That makes it extremely difficult because now even when you're in good coverage, you can still get a completion. He made a throw on Thanksgiving against the Falcons. It was actually incomplete, but it just dropped my jaw because he sent the tight end. Dan Arnold went down the seam and Drew was looking at Thomas all the way left and then at the last minute jerked his head all the way across the field.

Is perfect coverage, like there's no room whatsoever, and he threw it anyway and put it right on the dude's helmet and the falcons dB made a great play and batted it away. But like just the audacity and it's not audacity though, because he knows he can do it, And I just how there you? I mean, it was so good. He's so good. There's like three quarterbacks. There's a lot of quarterbacks who can make that throw, but not very many that have the confidence to do it

and the skill to reliably hit it. It's scary, and I just it's something I mean, you know, between the linebackers and the safeties. I just think that they you know, we saw it happened with Vernon Dave last week. A lesser quarterback took advantage of it. And I just think, I think Drew, I think there will be plays to be made over the middle of the field for these guys. I was looking at something. I'm trying to figure out the best defense that the Saints have played against this season.

The Ravens the Browns actually the only two teams in the league that have held them under thirty rights. Those are two probably the two best defenses that they've played, and both of them played them to a very close game. If you look at it, the Browns lost twenty one eighteen. The Ravens lost twenty four twenty three. So defense factors in here. Cowboys can play a good game on defense.

It can slow this offense down some you have to score and match, but but that does that is one of the positive things that maybe you can take out of this, right And Drew Brees doesn't throw a lot of picks, but they fumble the ball a decent amount, it seems. I mean, Ingram's had fumble problems his whole career, and with the amount of action, I guess you would say, you know, there's a like Drew Brees fumbled it while he was trying to pitch it out, And so I

wonder if maybe they can take advantage of that. Maybe the Saints will put the ball on the turf a couple of times. All right, let's take our final break, and we would when we come back. I want to dig a little dipper deeper, deeper, deeper into this matchup between the Saints offense and the Cowboys defense, which as of right now has shown to be very impressive and explosive. So well, the player can look good on paper, it's when he's out on the field that you really find

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stay behind. I mean, they've been doing a pretty good job. They've been very dynamic on the field, and you mentioned a few different positions. We talked about safety, but once you looks so happy, you talked about safety in the secondary, so once you look at it as an overall in general, the whole defense as a group, because we've seen how each position has been able to help the other once you combine that, do you think that the Cowboys can actually stop them somehow in a way like slow them

down a little bit. You're not going to stop them, but slow them now a little bit. That is that has to be the hope. And the Cowboys they're I mean, you know they're not They're not this juggerna when it comes to, you know, just completely shutting down the opposition. But they've been great in the red zone. They've been great at not allowing scores. They're only given up nineteen point four, which, as Nick just reminded us, that's half of what the Saints are scoring. So something's got to give.

I mean, one of those is a lot this week. This week, h even you know, against the Redskins, the Cowboys they only gave up they gave up two long scoring drives. The others, you know, one started on their twenty five because of a return, the other started at like midfield. So they've been fantastic at turning scoring opportunities

into field goals or takeaways. And they're they're just they're going to have to be on the Screws this week, and that's it's it's fascinating because I don't have a great answer for you because we've seen them do it consistently throughout the year, not necessarily against an offense that's good. And that's just that's gonna I really think that's gonna be the story of the game because the Cowboys aren't winning a shootout. They're not gonna win a fifty one

to forty eight game. They're just not, I don't think. But they could win a you know, they could win a twenty seven to twenty four game. Maybe. Honestly, both these defenses are too good for that. And that's not I mean, Cowboys defenses play well, but New Orleans has a good defense too. I think both of them are too good for this to be just a you know, we're just gonna line up that basically that Kansas City and in Los Angeles game a couple of weeks ago.

It's not gonna be that. It can't be that. These defenses I think are too good for that. That's well, that's what's curious to me is I always think about the Houston game because it's really it's the most glaring example of the defense buckling down, because if they give up touchdowns on even like two of those drives, all of a sudden, Texans have thirty points instead of nineteen.

You know that's going to be the test, because if the Saints get down there and they're scoring touchdowns everything, you know, if they're if they go three for three in the red zone, they're probably gonna score thirty four or thirty eight points and win somewhat comfortably. If you can turn a few of those into field goals. Now you've push this or turn whatever. Now you're talking about them scoring in the mid to high twenties, and that's

much more manageable. Well, that's the story that leads to this question which relates to this topic, and I pull these from Twitter. We've seen obviously the Saints they've been able to score over thirty points easily. Now the Cowboys they've struggled scoring anything passed twenty points. So let's say the defense, the Cowboys defense is able to hold them lower than thirty points. Do you think the Cowboys offense with that is able to score enough in order to

win a game. I think they're able to score enough. Yes, I do said this a lot. I do think that games kind of, you know, take a life of their own and they can be kind of these shootout type of games. Doesn't have to be up in the forties or fifties, but I think if if you get a lot of possessions going, yes, I think the Cowboys can do.

That's the only way that they're really going to win, in my opinion, is is if to limit the Saints under thirty points, which you know it doesn't happen often, but I think that they're gonna have to play their style of football, and their style football is going to be running it, getting first downs. Uh, you know, you're gonna get a lot of third and shorts. They're gonna have to go for it a lot. I think that you'll see more of an aggressive play caller, whoever that is. UM.

I think that you'll you'll see UM. I definitely think you'll see the Cowboys have it. They can't punt, they can't they can't kick long field goals. They don't trust their kicker to kick long field goals. So I think this is gonna be one of those games where you're gonna see a little bit more risk taking by the Cowboys, which just to your point they I mean, you're absolutely right, they have struggled to score. But in this during this three game winning stream, how much you bought it, they're

averaging twenty seven points a game. Yeah, I have no idea how much I buy it. I think that. I mean, they had thirty one last week and they looked like that looked like the offense from the years passed when this offense could put up not I mean, they were getting into the thirties regularly back then because they had a receiving threat that could take at the distance and

they had the running game going. If it's that team, maybe they can get into a game where I don't think they I still don't think they can get into that forty fifty point range and expect to win against this team. But I do think that maybe they can get into that thirty one thirty four range and have

an opportunity. But they like on the web side of what you just said about the Saints and the red zone, the Cowboys get down there, they cannot do anything where they're kicking a field goal like first and goal in the four and they end up kicking the field goal like that can't happen, Like I think you almost have to be in four down territory when you get down

to that point in the game. Scott Nahan was asked yesterday why not just run the ball three times on a row with Zeke and and he said, because they think that's what we're going to do pretty much, which is what we've always said that we think that he goes that sounds that's what the you know, the run fronts are not favorable. You're gonna have to kind of

grind through it. And we see someone on one matchups on the outside, which is what they saw with Beasley who dropped the ball, and what they saw with Noah Brown who didn't get a good pass and he might have I don't know if he would have caught it or not. Probably it's that frustrating for you, Derek. It's a little frustrating. It is it is, because it's like just because they know you're gonna do it, doesn't mean

it's still not a good option. And what I would say is that's again where you want to talk about where I think they can you know, at some point maybe they can use a gadget player to be able to help them. That's where it can help you a little bit is that now you give them a little bit something more to think about. I do like the idea of spreading the team out because they can't give

you that unfavorable matchup. If you spread them out, it's very hard for them to keep so many guys in there to where you cannot run the ball, but especially if you can run the ball with either Dak or z Okay, let me let me ask you that though you spread them out and thinking, all right, I've spread you out, but they didn't really go out there. Okay, then that means that means I got a one on one matchup that I feel like I can win. That's not what they do, but that's what they did against

the Falcons. And like Cole Beasley dropped it, Yeah, and again I'll take that. I'll still do that play. If you give me that matchup, I'll do that play, and I guarantee he'll catch it not out often enough or Noah Brown wide open. I mean, you're just saying like, I don't little less confident in him. But but I know, But in that situation, if I'm gonna get Cole matched up on the outside one on one and he has the ability to use his athleticism to get open and

catch the ball. I can trust that. That's something I can trust. That's better than me getting into a situation where I've got thirteen personnel in the field and I'm trying to run. Like yeah, I get that. You've basically allowed them to make it to where running is very difficult, you know, Derek agitated. I agree with you, and I hear what you're saying. It's just gets frustrating a little bit to me. I the Saints do that type of

stuff really well, and it's frustrating to watch. But what do you mean do what kind of spread it out and miss missdirection and all that. They put a quarterback into play receiver, they do it. They He's got a gadget stuff going on over there. He's got a bigger role than I really mentioned him. I'm surprised you didn't mention Taysom Hill. He's got a much bigger role than I gave him credit for. He's played one hundred and thirty snaps this year. He's carried the ball thirty two times.

He's averaging five yards per carry when he does it. Is he gonna be their next quarterback? I doubt it. It's gonna be their next coach. I'm saying, uncomfortable side. I don't want to talk about that today. No, No, I'm talking about Sean Payton. I'm talking about like he's not gonna be there forever, and he's probably gonna be there as long as Drew Brees is gonna be there. Don't you think I don't know. I'll talk about it.

We'll talk about that later. Taysom Hill offseason conversation will probably touch the ball more than Cooper Rush three to five times this game. Yeah, I could see that. Yeah, all right. I have a one last question for you guys. The Cowboys have one three game in a row. If they were to lose this game, how much can a loss against a team like this disrupt the momentum that they've gained those far. It's the classic, David, It's the classic thing where you thank you. It's a classic thing.

You can't let the same team beat you twice. But like, this game doesn't matter as much as the Eagles game. I'm sorry. I know that, I know that they all matter, but you just got I mean, Nick has been saying that for a month. You just beat the Eagles, and that's I hope. I think this is gonna be a great game. But if the Saints win comfortably, you can't. You just gotta flush it exact and focus on the division. Oh, this game definitely has a feel for some like moral victory.

Do it if you if you get beat like twenty eight, twenty four or something like that, as long as the head coach and or anybody didn't like, you know, mismanage the game. But if you if you do something where it's like you can come out of feeling good, you can you be like all right. I mean, the thing about it was is that you had to win. They've they've helped themselves. They've got a little bit of cushion.

Even though it's six and five, you don't feel like there's cushion, but you still feel like, Okay, you did enough where if you do lose a game here, you know, you gotta beat Philly, You gotta beat the Bucks and keep it. Somebody one of these two teams that's trailing the Cowboys and the Standings is gonna lose on Monday night. They have to because they play each other. So that's I don't this this game is not the end goal. I mean it would be amazing if they won, and

I think they can win. Not trying to suggest that, I just don't think they should even play it but the Eagles. But this is not I guess the point of it is. I don't think everybody should go into this game, and I'm talking to fans right now, I don't think I think it's a mistake to go into this game thinking if the Cowboys lose, everything is lost. It is not like this is lost. This game. Really it will help you to win. But if you lose it, everything's still right in front of you. It still got

to go beat Philadelphia. It would be so enormous If they did win, though it would be out, it gives them that much more room for error. I really think I could be wrong. I think nine wins is going to be enough to get into the playoffs in this division. Yeah, and if you can double up, like if you can get this win and then also be Philadelphia, you might actually be wrapping up before you get to week seventeen.

You may be wrapping up this division if you can get those If you if you said indicator that that's not going to happen, because that never happens for the cowls. There have been times in the last three or four years when the Cowboys get on these kinds of roles. That was when they were ten and one, right, But I'm just saying, like what we what we're seeing right now suggests that Amari Cooper and what they did on the offensive line have made them a different team than

what we saw at the beginning of the year. Now, the question is are they good enough to where you can compare them to those teams or is it just better than what they were doing earlier this year, which is, you know, still the middle of the road. I said this, I know we're running out of time. This this team is interesting though, because usually when the Cowboys are good, we know by Halloween, you know, like I don't, I don't know if this team is good and not to

find out, yeah we are. Like these next two games, I who determined to be continued all right, Tomorrow we're gonna dive into the Saints defense and see how that matches up against the Cowboys offense. For Derrek Hilton, Meekhiman, David Hillman and Burger see how this has been Cowboys Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.