The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Happy Friday, guys. We are here at the Star, rainy day here in Frisco, feeling pretty cozy and great. Nick looks very confused right now. What's going on with your
mic headphones? This is a holder just like this? I stop, stop, rested up? Okay, Well we have some brand new place, man. I don't know what's what's going on here. We have some interesting things that we're gonna be talking about today, one of them being Jerry Jones that made a comment earlier this morning. We'll get into that later in the segment, but first let's start off with where we left off
on yesterday's show. Derek, you we're gonna bring the whole ze versus Jalen Ramsey and Miles Jack versus Jalen Smith. What was your question with that? Well, really, what I wanted to talk about was right now. This week, the Cowboys face a team where there are two players on each team that are inextricably linked to players on the
other team because of where they would drafted. I think if you remember back, Jalen Smith and Miles Jack, they were the two linebackers that in that draft most people thought were the two best linebackers in that draft, but for the fact that they were both injured, and then there were questions about how injured. Right there was questions about Miles Jack was more he could play. I think yes.
I was talking to Brian. His quote was he could play ten games or ten years, Like it was one of those things where he can play now, but I don't know how long he'll play. With Jayalen Smith, it was like, I don't know if you'll ever play well again. In both of them are playing now, both of them
are playing pretty well. Um. So I ask you, guys the question with regards to Miles Jack and Jalen Smith, do you think the Cowboys still made the right decision in going with Miles Jack and not going with I'm sorry, and going with Jaylen Smith and not going with Miles Jack. I take issue with it on a small level, just because like, for instance, the Zeke Jalen thing, that is an interesting and lively debate because Zeke Zeke up, I
thought you Jalen Smith. Yeah, I got to get that now. Um, we know that it was pretty much down to those two. They were going to take one, and they chose Zeke. I have never heard anything to suggest that if they hadn't taken Jalen Smith, that they were going to take Miles Jack. He had his own medical They didn't work with him the way that they did the surgery on Jalen. They did not have that inside information that made the you know, they were so confident in Jaylen because of that.
So I don't think it's as clean of a compare Arrison, just because if they hadn't taken Jalen Smith, I don't know for sure what they would have done, so it's a little bit different. But do you think that that was a situation where they took Jalen Smith because of the talent, not necessarily because they felt like they needed
to get a linebacker? Oh? Do you think there was another linebacker that they had ahead of Miles Jack that they may would that maybe they would have taken I I that's I don't know, because Miles Jack was clearly the next best linebacker and Kevin Dodd and there was another. Oh, and Emmanuel Ogba literally went off the board boom boom, right in front of him. So like that's and Oga. They were supposedly very they were probably going to draft Ogba if he hadn't gone to Cleveland two picks before.
But I can't say it with certainty that they would have taken Miles Jack in that spot. And I don't know what they would have done. They could have. I mean, there were some corners there. I think there was there were safeties. I'd have to look at it to be sure. But so I don't think it's as easy as saying, if Jalen Smith isn't on this team, Miles Jack is.
But they clearly I mean to talk to any draft analyst, and Jalen Smith would have been ranked is one of the five best players in that draft if he has overall, absolutely if he hadn't been hurt. So we know they like to take chances in the second round. They're like, well, our doctor gave us a reason to feel good about this, and if he can even get close to that talent level, this pick will be worth it, and we killed him for it, a lot of people did, and it it's
still early, but it looks like it's paying off. I mean, even if they make a good decision, even if he just plays at this level, you know, borderline Pro Bowl, probably still not perfect, but still with his leadership and intangibles and everything, I mean, yeah, it looks like it's going to be well worth it in the long run. Nick, Um, I agree with all that. I think doctor Cooper is
the is the key there. I mean, I think that the information that they got, Um, Yeah, and you're right, this is not a clear cut I mean Myles Jack I don't even know was on their board. I'm not sure about that because he's just never his name was never being mentioned. He really wasn't being talked about it
other than Brian. I mean, I don't And that's that's my point is, Yeah, I don't know if he's on their board either because and it's it's different because Jalen's like he's got to do all this recovery, whereas Miles Jack, to your points, like he could play today, but we're not sure about that knee. So Jalen, though, you know, I think that they had just evaluated him so high. That was like, you know, we've done this before with other guys, with players that are you know, fall into
this spot. This is what Jerry likes to do, and it's worked pretty well. Worked with Shawn Lee, I think you could say. I mean, they tried it with Bruce Carter. That didn't really work so well. I mean, I know there's been some others in the second round that that you know, did Lawrence come in with an injury? Um? No, No, I thought one of the defensive ends came in. I mean, I mean, I can't remember. You can make Randy Gregory was another situation, you know. So it falls for different reasons.
So they're looking for value in the second round. You can't get any better value than that. If he can play to that level right now, he's doing it. So I think that one's pretty good and the other one. The other one's interesting too. Yeah, if you're going there, yeah, I mean you look at Jalen Ramsey and you look at Ezekiel Elliot, and like you said, Dave, they were going to pick. The conventional wisdom was they were going
to pick one of those two guys. They chose Zeke over Jalen Ramsey, and I think the biggest question around that really is about the position, because when you think about the way the NFL values a cornerback versus running back, it's way harder, it seems like, in today's NFL to find a quality cornerback or great cornerback than it is to find a great running back. And you can tend
to find great running backs even later in the draft. So, with all that we've seen and all that we've heard to this point and how they've both performed there so far in their careers, both of them have been really, really good players, do you think the Cowboys made the right decision in going with the running back over the cornerback. Yes, And I wonder if Jacksonville, I don't know, if how would have twenty sixteen looked like wouldn't have looked like that?
I don't know. But you know, here's the question, that's where other people that would argue on the opposite side would say, tell me who the Cowboys would have selected in the third or fourth round then, because they may have selected a running back that could have turned out to be a really good running back in the third or fourth round and they've got a shut down corner over there on the outside. So I don't think it's as easy as just saying, well, if you didn't have
Zeke in twenty and sixteen, wasn't gonna be. Good running backs are in this league very much, you know. I don't want to say a diamond doesn't. But you can find good running backs in a lot of places in this league. That being said, Jalen Ramsey's probably not the player that he is there too, because he's not getting as much help as up front as he as he got in Jacksonville. It would be now though it might be now pass rushing now, wouldn't you say? Maybe? Yeah?
I mean it's it's not as good as Jacksonville sixteen. I don't think so. Statistically they're better than Jacksonville this year? Aren't they this year? As a pass rush? Yea? This year? Yeah? This year. Hey. They asked the best cornerback in the history of the NFL what he thought of Jalen Ramsey. They played the same position, they went to the same school, and he said Dion Sanders said that he looks like a safety. Doesn't not sure if he's got the hips
for it. I was told that by two different people that in around the scouting coaching area. They said that Dion kind of thought he was more of a safety and with the fourth overall pick, they didn't want to draft the safety. But he did say on record he thought the Cowboys should take him because he thought he was going to be a great cornerback. Now that's I heard him say that. I know. I heard him say that.
He did an interview on NFL Network where he went out and spent a day or whatever with Jalen Ramsey, and then after that they came back and they did the debrief there on set, and he said, I think this is gonna be a really good safety in the NFL. And then I saw him on another program later where he said he thought the Cowboys should take him. Now again, you know, he could say a lot of things on the record that are different than off the record, but
on the record that's what he was dying. Which one is it, did you say he was going to be a safety or as a corner? You just said you first you said corner, then you said safety. What did I'm sorry it was not safety. I'd never heard him say safety on the record. I never heard say safety on record that's I wrote about that in my column yesterday, like that's a forgotten storyline. He might have wound up at corner, but there was conventional wisdom said they might
try him at safety, Like there was no consensus. It seems dumb now because he's all pro, but there were plenty of teams that thought he would make a better safety than a corner. Who knows what the Cowboys would have done. That's I wrote. I tried. I tried to go as many levels deep as I could with this in my column because it's crazy, You're absolutely right, like and you know it's you know, people love to say, like, oh, they could have gotten Jordan Howard in the fifth round.
Jordan Howard wasn't on their radar. It probably would have been Derrick Henry or Paul Perkins. If I had to guess, does Romo get hurt in that scenario or he's one of those guys good enough to just completely fuel your offense the way Zeke did. Probably not. Your defense is a lot better. Do you draft Dak? You might have to take Paul Perkins in the fourth round. That's about where he wound up. CJ. Prosis is another guy they liked you could have had him in the second instead
of Jalen Smith. It's I mean, the whole thing would change, right, That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of difference, So it's hard to say, kind of make that a ju I mean to make that statement about twenty sixteen. Don't know if Jacksonville at that point, And I know they took fourn At the next year, right, but at that point I think they weren't. They still like, didn't they have a guy that they kind of liked. They weren't really they had yelled in and um, I don't know
if they were gonna take Zeke right there. No, in fact they did it was it was it still? Um was that before DeAngelo Williams? No, No, he was with Carolina by somebody else that seemed like an older running back that was there before all those guys. As as you might imagine, Jacksonville's media has been talking about this too, and they were they were aiming to fix their defense in that draft, like they were not going to draft Zeek. They were it was gonna be Jalen. I think they
liked Bosa. He went third. Um I took him off the board. Was another guy that Cowboys were linked to. They loved DeForest Buckner as well, who's been good in San Francisco, not on Zeke or Jalen's level, but um yeah, it's wild to think about the other thing. Well, what I was going to say is it's a cop out, but you can't answer if it was the right move right now, you really can't. Um. I think Zeke's gonna be an Adrian Peterson type of, like, you know, generational
running back. I'm not saying he's going to the Hall of Fame, but he's going to be one of the best backs in the league for the period of time that he's playing. You know. And there are some people in Jacksonville right now, I mean quietly. I don't think they're coming out saying it, but but they are a little bit you know, down on Fournet and disappointed with what he's been able to do and not do. And you look at Zeke and there's the risk that's taken
the running back that high. And Cowboy's had some issues off the field with him, but for the most part as far as production that you know, when he's there, he's there right and people see that. So I would guess Jalen Ramsey's going to be able to play. I think about Charles Woodson and Adrian Peterson like that. I mean they don't they don't play similarly, but I just think about their career arcs. Adrian Peterson was the best or one of the best in the league for about
nine years. Charles Woodson played for seventeen. I think it's way more likely Jalen Ramsey's gonna play longer Zeke's higher level. Zeke is gonna make your offense viable, slash good and be a pro bowler for probably eight years, and if you win a championship in that window, then it was the right pick. Like I mean, if Jalen Ramsey plays a decade longer than Zeke, but Zeke helps the Cowboys win their six Super Bowl, is anybody gonna just seriously
quibble about it. But if they don't, and you know, if Zeke retires and it never gets better than twenty sixteen and Jalen Ramsey plays until twenty twenty five, then it's a different conversation. And I think the part that can't be lost in all this is the whole philosophy. You get my twenty thirty five whatever you get my point. The whole philosophy that the Cowboys have taken, that they're going to go the route of having a run first offense, and if that works, then having a guy like Zeke
makes a bunch of sense. If we find out later that that was a bad decision to go with that philosophy in today's NFL, where it's geared so much to war teams being able to pass efficiently, I mean be able to pass and needing to be able to pass in order to win, then then it becomes a much different conversation because now you're talking about a guy that could have defended against the pass verse as a guy that is a runner primary, that is a runner, And
that change is that whole, the whole complexion that debate, regardless of how they perform, it changes whether it was a good decision or not. But you know, it actually worked out better than they thought it would because to have Dak start all those games, you needed Zeke. You know, if Rammo's gonna probably get hurt either way, Romeo gets hurt and you've got Jalen Ramsey, now you've got some issues big time at the running back and the whole offense. So I mean it probably worked out the way it
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Jerry Jones went on the fan this morning and he said, that's something that a lot of people are gonna like, and uh, can't do we have the audio for it? We don't, but it'll be on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Ta Okay, so y'all can check that out. But Nick twitted it out earlier. This is what Jerry said. Jason Garrett's absolutely the real deal. There's no fraud in Jason Garrett.
Does he have some things he could do better, of course, but what I think is that we have an asset that will get us to where we want to go, which is eight championship. Initial reactions to this comment that Jerry Jones made. He's obviously not ready to an insane okay, um he's not ready to make a change there. So, um, he's gonna, you know, have that approach. He's gonna stick by that for sure. And so you know, that's what that's what he believes. He believes that he is not
a fraud. I mean, I don't know, I don't know what the question was there. Um, but you know, just to say, yeah, I mean he could do some things better, that's fine, has the assets to win a championship. You know, fans don't really want to hear it because they because they ain't seen it. They don't see anything really close to that. There's one playoff win there. So, um, but I think why I believe it's just important is the last time we really heard him talking about it, he
said that he questioned the decision that Jason made. And that's been a big topic of discussion this week, is what should he have punted or not? You know, And I just think that it's it's a you know, Garrett's making sure that, I mean, Jerry's making sure that he's gonna say all the right things when it comes to backing his coach when he really didn't do that Sunday night. Here's the fact the matter, He had two choices here. He could either endorse his head coach or anything else.
If he no comments, if he says something that's lukewarm, if he says, hey, he's got a lot of problems, any of that other stuff. And now he's created a whole firestor exactly, he's created a whole firestorm, not just with the media, but now even in the locker room, because in the locker room, players are now saying the owner's questioning the owner is doesn't have faith in the head coach, why should I. He's created a whole different things.
So in that scenario, to me, this is one of those things where yeah, he's gonna have to take the brunt of public backlash on this one because that's the nature of it. But based on the two options of what he had, this is what the owner is gonna do. And I'm not talking about jar I'm talking any owner. He's gonna do this most of the time unless he's at a point where he's like, I think we need to make a move. Otherwise, the owner is gonna always say I backed my head coach, he's the right man
for the job. He's you know, the owner has to sell to the public. This is the guy that we need to have faith in. So he's gonna do that every single time unless he's at a point where he's like gotta go, and that point even when I'm sorry, said but no one is buying. I get it, that's maybe they shouldn't. But the point is, I'm just saying we all have to take a step back here and realize,
like what else was he gonna say? Yeah, you're making a different kind of comment, only creates problem, and you need to That's who you have right now, Jason Garrett, and you need to show him support. Obviously. I'm sure behind doors they're not just sitting there drinking coffee or whiskey and that laxing not to bring, not to bring shop talk to the air, which and I get Nix's point.
I mean when the owner says something like that it's news. Yeah, it doesn't register with me as like this huge news, because what else is he gonna say, Like I defy. Somebody find me an example where the owner or whoever, before making a move win on the radio or TV and was like yeah, no, um, you know, we're not really feeling good about Phil Jackson, Like probably we're gonna Yeah, we're gonna talk and maybe he won't be the coach on Monday. Like that doesn't happen. Everything's good until it's
not good. Hey, we'll see what happens after Jackson right, no question, even Jerry Jones has a long and deserved reputation for saying whatever he wants basically, but like he's not gonna say that. Even he wouldn't say that, So it doesn't it doesn't register with me because he doesn't
really have a choice in them. Like, that's what he has to say, and that's what he'll keep saying until whatever happens, whether it's this week, five years from now, whatever, He'll keep saying that until he changes his mind and he'll do But public's ready to public right right, right, Where do you stand on Jason gart right now? Um talk to me at six thirty Sunday Sunday. Can you imagine that you would be going crazy on it, like, hey man, get a new graphic ready for a new
head coach. If this quote we're doing, if this, if this quote, this public show of support is generating, you know, a frenzy on social media. Imagine if he was like, we'll see what happens against the Jags, and then I'll decide like who. So again, I don't want I don't want anybody out there to think that this is excuse making, because it's not. We're just trying to give you guys the real on how this stuff cuts about, because I know there's a lot of people out there saying, like,
why would he even say something? I would even think something like that. This is why he says something like that is because what else is he going to say? And this happens a lot, not just with Jerry, it happens with players too. You'll hear him make these comments sometimes and you're like, really that player thinks that, No, not necessarily, but what else is he gonna says? It's kind of the best that I can say in this
moment to diffuse as much as I can. Right. The thing about it is is that the guys on the radio show don't ask the question. Then they get ridiculed for it, right, they have to ask, but they ask the question, and it's a dumb question because any anytime you get what they people perceive to be as a dumb answer, and you know it was probably a dumb question, but it was one of those that had to be done. So you have to ask, it has to be answered
this way, and then the reaction is this way. It's kind of a weird cycle from the media there, But I mean it's really nobody's at fault. I don't fault the guys. No, I don't either asking the question, and I don't really fault Jerry for answering that way. Now, there's levels of over the top, but Jed, but Jerry is the eternal optimist, so let's also be real about it, like he's gonna go over the top when it comes to that, and he's gonna go like, hey, I'm believing
this guy hit. This guy's like he's a salesman, he's selling his guy, and we'll see if that shit change. I remember, and Nick, I'm pretty sure this happened at some point a couple of week a couple of weeks before Wade was fired. Did Jerry not give him a kind of an endorsement, Maybe not as strong as this, because I think this is really strong, But I'm pretty sure up until the point that he fired him, Jerry was still like, I think Jay Wade's right guy. I
think Wade's fine. I don't remember him being publicly like, I don't know. We gotta we gotta get bet, we gotta do you know, Yes, before green Bay is what I'm saying, before you got to green Bay, before you got to Jacksonville, because that was the week before that, right, Um, I think so, I think it was Jacksonville. I have to go back and see if I can pull up some moldy archives. But but remember him being like, but Saturday night before the green Bay game, Yeah, we were
at the bar in Appleton, Wisconsin. That's exactly what. There's only one well, no, there's actually a lot. No, no, no, there's a spune, there's a bunch, but there's only one called the Bark. And we and Rob, Rob and I were there and West Phillips was their offensive assistant. We're tight ends coach maybe at the time, and so yes,
son of White. Yes, And he said, man, you know, we don't win this game, Yad's probably getting fired, and and Rob and I are kind of like, you know, you can you know how Rob is like yeah, He's like, Um, it's just the way it is. It's not awkward. I mean, it's just the way this is. If we don't win this game, will be one in seven and it's national TV, and it's probably not gonna go. Well, that's just the way it goes. And so I think the riding was on the wall there that didn't expect to lose forty
five to seven, which you know made it worse. So yeah, you know, And and that's what we've always talked about with when when you make that when you make those decisions, is when you feel like you've lost the team. And I don't know, I mean, I don't think that's that's happening right now. Well, to bring it full circle, that's this is a spect like when things are going bad with the team, it's the biggest it's the bit. It's the thing that aggravates me the most is like and
and fans are well within their rights. It's like fans want what should happen, Like, you know, Jason Garrett should be fired, like this is our wreck, blah blah blah blah blah. I tell you what is happening, and like we are vilified for that, you know, And like and I'm not excuse making for Jason Garrett. That's a whole separate conversation. But like on October, what's today October twelfth, yea on October twelfth, one game under five hundred five,
six weeks into the NFL season. It does not make sense to fire your head coach right now like it did. It doesn't. Nobody does that like and and you know it's built up over years. I get it people are frustrated, but like, just remove your your passion and your intensity and your love for this team from the equation and just think about, like, the season is not lost, even if you have no faith that it is going anywhere. It's it's not lost. That's going to play. That is
the reality of the situation. And then the conversation changes as that changes. If the losses keep piling up, it's time to have different conversations. But it's foolish that you know your your ideas and opinions about this team built up over the years, is going to impact what you're doing right now. And I just you know, people think I'm defending Jason Garret when I say that. No, that's just the reality the situation. Nobody does that. George Steinburner
wouldn't do that. The time for that is January well or even no, mean no, what I'm saying, No, if you're sitting at home in January, when the playoffs are going on and you've had another bad season, that's the time I think that. I don't actually think there's any good necessarily that comes out of making a change to the head coach in the middle of a season. I personally, I won't even go that. I mean, the time could be was that game in October or November? The Green
Bay game October? The time could be October. I disagree, and I think maybe you disagree with it as well, because think about it like this. If you let Wade continue to happen like that, then who's the head coach. But the thing is is that you got an opportunity to see what Jason Garrett was able to do. And so maybe there might be a coach on this staff, maybe somebody that coaches defensive pacts that you want to be a head coach, and I'd like to see four
or five games. But here's here's where I think. Here's where I think that could have backfired on you a little bit. If the Cowboys made their decision based upon what he did in the final part of that season and said he's our guy, that means they probably didn't do their due diligence of all the other guys that were out there to figure out whether he was better than all the other guys out there. That's where I
have a problem with him. Well, that's another tricky situation because Jason Garrett was the head coach in waiting before Wade for I get that, but I'm just saying to me, I think that I think that if you're going to make a change to a head coach at a major program I'm talking about college or pro, I think you need to take the time to not just look at what's in your building, but look outside and see who are those young guys out there or old guys I don't want to be you know, I don't have agism
all from yourself. Just go out and find who you think are the best guys that, given what you currently do and what you how you want to see your team formed, has the best credentials to be able to take you where you want to go. And don't be limited to just the guy that you've kind of had pegged in your building that you think is going to be the next up and coming guy. Now. I know that that probably has influenced a little bit by watching guys like Sean Payton walked out of the door and
then end up winning a Super Bowl. I'm sure that kind of stuff kind of makes you say, well, I don't want to lose a guy that then go somewhere else. But I still think you got to take the time and do the due diligence to know that he is the best guy. Here. Here's another question. I see a lot of people and a lot of people, you know, obviously wanting to fire the head coach, wanting to fire Scotland,
and him wanting to fire both of them. In reality, let's say a few weeks down the road and with the season kind of going how it's going right now, which one would be the first move to be made by Jerry Jones, either the offensive coordinator coach or the
head coach. Well, I mean, based off what you just said, though, I don't know if you do anything, because if you say how the season is going right now, because how the season's going right now is a win here and here you win all your home and you lose like okay, with the season heading downwards, and where you're like, okay, we need to make a bigger change. You know, if if it starts to kind of get off the road.
I mean, the wheels are wobbling right now. If it starts to get really bad here, then then yeah, I get you. If Jerry Jones is making If Jerry Jones is making a change, I would assume it's the tip top, right, I mean, yeah, But I think it's one of those things like what are you going to change? Jason? I
mean I think it's and that happens sometimes. Honestly, I know we laughed about it, but I mean, if I Jason Garrett, I'm not I'm not taking over the play calling until like it might be a bye week thing after the Jags play smart, well, it also might be a bye week, so you have a lot of time to kind of get yourself ready for it. I mean, that's that's in fifteen. They you know, they they benched weedon and they put McFadden in front of Randall and they did that during the bye week. So I think
he had two more games. The worst you could be is what two and two and five? Five? Yeah, two and five with a division loss to the wouldn't fire Scott Linahan. You just take over the play calling. I don't think you'll fire the coordinator in the season, you probably just take the play and you don't You may not even announce it, like I've seen that happen too. They don't even announce it. They just kind of somebody else. I'm announcing it. I'm Jason. He could say it in
the building. He doesn't necessarily have to announce it to the world. I need to announce it to the world to go to go back to my point, and you know, or whatever. People can say, I'm defending all they want. Like I'm not saying the Cowboys are going to get it together and have this great season. It's not trending that way, but they're too and three like and we've seen these trends of like well, not not only that, I mean again, and I think I think this is noteworthy.
Only once in his tenure as head coach has Jason Garrett let a season completely get away to the point where they're not competitive at the end. And that was when he didn't have his quarterback. Like when he's had the guys he's supposed to have, They've been there until week sixteen, weeks seventeen. I said that on Twitter the other day and everybody lost their mind, like, well, we're
supposed to accept mediocrity. No, that's not what I'm saying. Like, I think we would all agree that eight and eight and no playoffs is probably not good enough for Jason Garrett. I mean we said that before the season, right that to your point, that's a conversation for January. But you're not You're not going to do this drastic. You know, if you're trading wins and losses and you're still in the mix in a bad east, who pulls the plug
on that mid season? Maybe you reevaluate when it's over and say we're going to go in a new direction. But you are not going to pull the plug on a season that has a chance to get to the playoffs, which right now that is still completely I know, I know, but I'm just saying again, it's not about what it should be, It's about what it is, right, That's what's important. Realism, babe, realism. Let's take our final break and when we come back,
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com boards last Cowboys get it. Thank you. Nick. Let's hit the inactive list and Mike White actually had I got mine every yeah, yeah, yes, he actually did not practice every Friday. We go to practice when we take role and me and some of the other Beat writers play the inactive game. It's always fun. But you got Mike White, Dalton Schultz, Xavier Suaphilo, Joe Thomas, Sean Lee, newly added cornerback CJ. Goodwin, and then they got a
choice to make at defensive tackle. I assume, and again I gotta see it, but I assume David Irving's going to be up for this game, which means K means either Karan Read or Daniel Ross is probably suthing easy to me. It has to be Karan Read, right, Yeah, Ross had Ross had a great game last week relative to list. Yeah the good He's got a play. I didn't say I yeah, I think I'm just I'm just saying that. I think. Well, Joe Thomas is certainly sitting.
He's wearing a boot, and I would assume Sean Lee sits to is this Luke Casey huh, Daisy No, not a cowboy boot, like an orthopedic boot, like a Mallard Chris, you got uh Layton vander Esh will be your starting Will Jalen Smith, Mike Damien Wilson will be your starting Sam and will back up Mike Uh Justin March Lillard would be your backup. We will, and I think Covington would be your backup Sam Slash. That's a lot of talent, though a lot of talent. But I'm just saying that's yeah,
it's it's not ideal. They're put we raved about this depth at linebacker for six months, Well let's be it's gonna be put to the test. Sorry, defensive back, who'd you put out there? I put? I'm guessing Goodwin is down because all your corner if Cheeto can go, which I assume he can, all your corners will be healthy and new guy Darian Thompson probably needs to play special teams. Ibrahim Campbell got cut. So this this question I didn't think to ask you early this week when you gave
us a scattering port on Jacksonville's offense. But do they tend to be in base like? Do they tend to be in a in a formation? Do they run three wide as their base or is this a team that because they like to run the ball so much, the Cowboys could find themselves in base defense, Which now affects your linebackers a lot more as far as the numbers than you would typically see from an NFL team. They do eleven a lot because they like to have those
receivers out there. But this is a team that likes to like they look a lot more old school than what we've seen in the last couple of weeks, Like they like to line up in twelve and thirteen and run the ball. So yeah, I would guess you're gonna see so you're third, You're gonna probably have three linebackers out there are a fair amount of time. You're probably
gonna have some snaps. Yeah. I think that's fair, and that that becomes now becomes really interesting because you're right now depth is an issue to some degree because you got those three guys out there more frequently versus two knock on wood, which, well, if they can get through this. Based on his workload this week, I feel optimistic Sean Lee will be available for the trip to Washington, but
I don't think he'll be there on Sunday. All right. Well, see, Nick has been begging to have a longer segment on about game day predictions, so apparently he has some really good predictions. I guess, So what do you got for us? I mean, can I throw one other inactive thing to talk about real quick? Just we didn't talk about this on the opposite side, It's kind of happened again. Jalen Ramsey is listed as questionable for this game. So I
would be big. Yeah. I don't think there's much of any way that he does not play in this game, right, although he is listen, this questionable something to keep an eye on. Cool, that's to keep you wondering about it, you know, just go right early, sure, go for testing with Deonte Thompson. I think this game is gonna be about special teams. I think whoever has a whoever has a big play or bad play on special teams, Um, that's gonna affect this game. I think the offenses are similar.
I think the defenses are similar. I do think Jacksonville is way better. But I just think that you know, it's gonna come down to that. It'll be a kicking game. Play might be a block punt, it might be a you know, a play that's down inside the one yard line, something like that. That the special teams is going to probably be a difference maker in this one. That's my prediction part. That's it. Yeah, um, let's score, we're doing that. I think Dallas will win the game. I do. I
think they're gonna win twenty to sixteen. I think it's not gonna explosion cud. Seriously, it's the NFL. I mean I mean, I know that they play that way, but it'll it. Whenever you think it's gonna be something, it's typically not a good point. And I think you know they'll it'll it'll be. It'll be down to the end. And I think Blake Bortles is not very good. I don't think that offense is very good. And um, I think the Cowboys defense are gonna have to make some place.
But they gotta be like Houston. They gotta make some turnovers, you know, to do it. I think they will. I think it'll be a fun game, and I think they're gonna win it. I just I think, you know, like I've said all along, I'll stick with it. You really, it's hard to get to eight and eight if you're not three and three. So I think they need to get to three and three. Let's do it twenty sixteen. W It would be the least surprising thing in the world if the Cowboys found a way to win this game.
And surprising thing in the world is going to be that guy butchering the defensive tackle's name. Yes, yes, the guy that does the PA and the press box will not be able to say Yanick. One of these days, one of these days, can one of you guys just record like what our experience is there? Yeah, bring some of that to the end. What's funny? Think it's good stuff for the guy next to me? What's his name? Who?
The guy that the defensive tackle for the Jaguars, Yannick and Gogway, he's an end but sorry Yannick and god in Godway. Yeah, okay, you got that down just like that seconds. What's gonna happen is is like tackle made by yeah Yick, not go well. And then the guy next to me, Todd Archer, is gonna just he's just been typing. He's like, no, no way. Doesn't even know how to say. It's like no way. They give you a phonetic pronunciation guide on the roster. Yeah yeah, he's
just he won't get Blake Bortles right, No, he won't. Um, it won't be surprising to me if the Cowboys find a way to win. They've been better at home. Blake Bortles wants to give you the ball, and that's if they're going to win. I think they're going to not just get take away. They need to score points on defense, like they're all Jacksonville is given up seventeen per game.
The Cowboys are scoring sixteen per game. If if if conventional wisdom says you need like twenty four twenty seven points to win an NFL game, you got to find him somewhere, not just a scoop. No, you need the score too. Yeah, I need Jim swipe and score. Um. I gotta see it, though. I mean, they've been better at home, but this is a different beast than what they've seen. I mean, Jacksonville's one hundred and ninety one passing yards per game against an offense that is averaging
one seventy six, Like, that's not good. And nah, I just I need to see it to believe that it's going to happen. I think I think twenty sixteen two, but I think Jacksonville finds. I trust them to move the ball against Dallas's offense way more than I trust the Dallas offense to be able to come up with enough points. I agree with you. Here's where I differ. I actually think Jacksonville's offense will I'll score Dallas's offense. However, I think Dallas's defense does get that pick six or
that fumble that's returned for a touchdown. I think the Cowboys are able to win because of the because the only touchdown of the game will be scored by the Cowboys defense. That would get you only touchdowns. I think, I think you will be a ten six game. Wow, I think the only touchdown scored in this game will
be by the defense. Not there going. Both of these offenses are gonna have a hard time moving the ball against those twenty fifteen Tampa Bay style ten six will be the final score of im I'm not being sarcastic. One of my absolute favorite games that I've covered here, just because it was such a s show, Like it was just a nightmare? Which which game you're talking about? Ten six in Tampa twenty fifteen, like the last game before Romo came back? Yeah, nightmare? Yeah the first word. Yeah,
we've had better first words than that. Brian and I are hot, We're down there. We're like, they just lost that team. It was bad all the way around. What do you postgame? What do you got? Oh? No, no, I'm out. What do you mean you're out? You know what? I start off the week really upset, and I'm like, you know, I'm done. I'm done. I'm not picking them to win again. And then as the week gets by,
like we got to Thirsty mich they pulled me back. Yeah, they pulled me back in I'm like, you know what, Okay, something something about it, Okay has to happen. So I just have very very mixed feelings for this weekend. I think it's gonna be obviously a very tough battle, especially between the two defenses, but I think maybe Jacksonville they they pull it through. And I don't know, this sucks. It sucks broken because my heart wants to go with the Cowboys right now, and then my law Jake wants
to go with the Jags. Trust me, Dave knows it's a lot easier to be in that locker room if they win. He would like for them to win for that reason too. But yep, you know, I just I'm going one more time. I'm just gonna go on more. I just kind of well, I mean, not one more time for the season, but I just feel like I'm just kind of convinced that this team is just right there at the end. It's close. I think they're gonna
win it. But um, I hope you're right. I'm sorry, Nick, No, I'm just saying I've been I've gone back and forth all week too. I hope Derek's right that they get a defensive touchdown because it's just not something we've seen enough. It seems like everybody else gets them more like Byron Jones had a pick six in Washington last year, and before that it was probably Rulando McClain. But like they just got you can get it from Like, yeah, no, I don't think, but I'm gonna necessarily do that against
some of the other teams. I gotta see it. Though. I don't think Dallas will lose a close game. I think though they could win a close game. I think they win a close game where they get there. You know what's really gonna you know what's really gonna upset me is You're you're gonna see the our defense get an interception, get a takeaway, a turnover, and then they give the ball back to Dallas and at the offense and the offense doesn't do anything with it, and we
just see the defense. Ten six Houston when the Brown fumble and picked up by Lewis and they got to like the fifteen, and I looked over and I was like, cool, ten nine, awesome, But they actually did score town, so they got to do more of that. They need takeaways. All right, guys, this is all the time we have for today. Will check us out on Sunday and see how this game turns out for the Cowboys. For Derek Eagleton, Nick Emman, David Hailman, I'm Ambar Garcia. See you guys
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