Atlantis Debate! (Feat. Enigma Seeker)

to support the show. Be sure to like the stream and share it, get it out there to uh the internet waves. Let everybody see, get some people in here. It's good to be here tonight, though. Very excited to hear what Enigma Seeker has to say.

manual labor subliminal messenger. Uh it was, it was. It was fun to say the least, and uh we had some pretty good discussions about it. Uh, stay tuned for what was it? Enchanted wiggers? The next excuse me, the next one? Anyway, what was it?

haven't found me already, you never will. Cosmic Peach Podcast, thanks for having me.

lot deeper research into the topic of Atlantis. But originally I was in Air Force for a little bit, say Japanese, so I know actually probably more about Japan I do

about Egypt. I am a Catholic, so I do have kind of a biblical worldview, but I'm more of a kind of like an academic ethoc in the sense that I don't you know, I'm not a younger of creationists, or I'm not, you know, believing some of the things that some Freemasons believe, which are carryover what some evangelicals used to or believe in, which is more the kind of a literal interpretation of scripture and all that. So

I'm a little more liberal on that topic. And I also was a boy scout, so but ufology is probably where I first started when I had my actual wu Wu experience. So I am an eyewitness of the second kind. I have contacted the FBI once. I have talked to Linda multi House. I have been on now a few times when we were helping her out cataloging a phenomenon that the UF is producing, and that was called the Mystery Boom phenomenon. And so far Luelsandre has not mentioned it.

I'm keeping an ear out for that to see if he mentions that, but that might be in the future. We'll see. But something was going on between the years twenty eleven and twenty fourteen that caused media reports all around the country to start popping up local media and reach national at tension once. So that's a whole other topic. But I addressed this on the YouTube channel Suspect Sky Adrian's channel and he has compilation videos about UFOs and

unidentified strange noises and other paranormal things. So I've made videos for him a few times. So that's now kind of where I'm shifting. I'm not making as many videos anymore. Back to college, I did, but I'm no longer in college, so I'm working now as a landscape designer and I live in Saint Louis, Missouri, but I did graduate from University of Iowa and Iowa State.

And I think that's Mike. I think it was Mullen or what's his name, the guy that hates Trump Clapper under the Obama administration, those higher officials, they're the ones that kicked all this off. So you can see why they probably didn't want Trump in power at the time. One reason, other geopilgal reasons, of course.

I think the Japanese one did it a little bit better. Yeah, yeah, I like that Disney didn't go straight to Zacharais Sitchens style and Eric Wondanka, whereas the original anime Nadia that inspired Atlantis, they went they were uh guy Neck Studio was inspired by zach Reiztitian Eric Wondanica, so there was more ancient alien route, whereas Disney did more of the spiritual route, which is what Graham Hancock was linking to.

So I think the directors and writers they were listening to people at Graham Hancock and Zacharizichen comparing and how they're going to write their story.

Grush alluded to, and that's the phrase interdimensional. So, as a Catholic, when I hear that that's what I'm I think angels or demons or jins or what Japanese would call yokai or kami, so something a lot deeper than just you know, aliens in spaceships.

They're just a semantically different thing based off cultural terminologies. Like the word angel means messenger but also can refer to watchers, but they're more like militaristic terms, like you know, a literal messenger from the military goes out and sends a message. They're using militaristic language in their theology, and that's how the ancient world worked because there was no separation of church and state in ancient times.

spiritual state, they could enter. I think Madam Blovotsky and other occultists believe that that, yes, you can summon angels through psionics is when now what they're calling it, but it's basically prayer meditation.

that maybe Atlantis is basically North and South America. But then I realized, uh, that's a mistake, because it was basically Christopher Columbus assuming that maybe that's Atlantis. And he's one of the first to promote this idea, so that's why he named the first islands the Antilles or and Tilias, and from there, since Columbus set that president others like father Charles Brazio de Borgia. I can't say he's a French dude, but he's the first one that really fall

in love of the Mayan culture. He was a Catholic priest and archaeologist, and he did a lot of work on Mayan history and really trying to analyze that. I think Dan de d Dunker has mentioned him in one of his videos and details, so I do alaud him for that. But from there. You know, he influenced ignatious

Donnelly and Ignatia. Donald was politically motivated more so, and he went to put his nationalist place attachment of Atlantis in the Americas, or at least maybe in the Central Atlantic, because there was a basic misconception between Atlantic Ocean and Atlantic Sea. So that's where the confusion's coming about. People thinking it's literally in the Atlantic Ocean. But that's not the Greek's perspective at the time of you know, Solon, or the time of even Plato some sense, So there's

some misconceptions on. You know, Graham and Random are kind of using Atlantis as more of a concept to represent a lost civilization befour hours before the Ice Age. And

that's fine. And I told Graham once on Facebook, you know, it would be good to not use the name Atlantis in his in his documentary Ancient Apocalypse, and he actually did, surprisingly avoid using that name because I think he understands now that Okay, historically, when you look into the deeper brains of Plato, it's pretty clear it has nothing to really do with the Americas or but you know, so now it's people have broadened the term Atlantis just means

something something wesation past. And no thanks to Hollywood too. It's really Hollywood that brainwashed a lot of people.

I'd say ninety five percent or more is correct. But there's a few things like is it nine thousand or is it nine hundred? Or do you divided by the three seasons that'smatched in the Middle East, or is it by the lunar calendar? So there's some confusion on the translations. And more likely I'm gonna have to blame US Catholics for that because of probably a bunch of monks in Italy or France that messed up some translations that ended

up eventually getting to England. So over time people thought when when the Romans named or when the Romans emphasized that the straitcherche of Bulture is this and this new pillars of Hercules, everyone assumed it was outside that. But when you actually read Tomatos and Critaias, it's saying it's subdued inside the pillars, but in the they're denoting a different pillars than in Tamais, So there's two pillar locations.

And that's according to George sarn Titi's and I think it's Johanna James who promoted Jack Kelly's documentary Atlanti's Puzzle, and George Santezi's was actually one of my researchers, and he is correct to realize that Atlantis does have something to do with literally North Africa. So credit to Jimmy from Bright Inside for figuring that out as well. Atlantis is definitely associated to the continent of North Africa, but

not just Africa. Basically, anything that's the Middle East and North Africa to the Greeks was Atlantis the continent, but the island is something specific again, it might be a translation there too. Is it island or is it oasis? How do we translate that from Greek to French to Italian whatever in English? So there might be some mistakes along there on how Plato is emphasizing the idea of

an island. Is he saying island in a poetic sense or is he saying it actually is like an oasis because Egypt was surrounded by sand, a sea of sand.

It wasn't exactly detailed detail because they just simply didn't know how the all the exact shapes of islands and everything. But they're pretty close, you know, maybe fifty percent sixty percent, pretty accurate. But they put the Antilles or Atlantius in these.

I was near the Azores, and they thought that was associated with Atlantis because at this time in the fourteenth century, some some thought that it was outside the pillars, but George Sorountisi is saying, no, it's more likely inside the pillars. And then there's another map that kind of shows why that would be. But that's that's an interesting map, I thoughts.

But everything Graham Hancock ran across and believe in is based off this kind of this old map that is just saying that it has something to do with the Azores. But that's a misconception because people were still discovering new land. They just simply didn't know the translations because there was no map by Erodus. The map we see from Heradus is just made up in the eighteen hundreds, it's not he made up.

that went to Mexico. So he's the one that started to think that Atlantis was Central America basically, and he thought that there was a connection with the Bible, and he's correct, but he started to think, you know, and there won food as the discovering new Land, and they're discovering the minds and looking at these pyramids, they're like,

oh my gosh, you know, that's amazing. So he fell in love with that culture at the time and learning all about it, and he wanted to place it in Central America or have something to do with Central America. But in reality, that's when the Freemasons started to realize, Okay,

maybe this is not correct. So Freemasons started to really honor Egypt more, which is why a lot of their temples are Egyptian style, because they realized in geopolitical philosophy or terms, that Egypt is the first true nation state, and that's because of the typology it has that forced it to be cohesive compared to other regions like Babylon or in China, it took a long time to consolidate power, but Egypt was considered the first true nation state, and

that is why the Freemasons honored Egypt so much. Because Egypt was kind of like a symbol of America, like a new atlantischools. You know, that's that's where a lotsation.

they're still discovering the new world. To them, it was all new and it was naturally the logic was, well, this is a new lost world, this is Atlantis, because they were correlating to this idea that is Atlantis loss. But when you actually read Plato, majority of Tomatoes Cortaias is not about Atlantis. Atlantis is simply the foundation example used for a broader cosmological understanding of the universe to fit to a geopolitical allegory. That's where it gets a little confusing.

best way? But Egyptians tend to be more authoritarian because they're forced to buy agriculture, whereas in Greece it's a more sporadicallypirse agriculture between mountains and valleys, and it wasn't as unified, so it took more time for warfare to unify that region by force. But in Egypt was there wasn't as much warfare as like you see maybe in Babylon, because Babylon didn't have a fertile plane. As Plato describes, there was a fir tile plane. And he said on

either side of this plain there were mountains. But the translation again from mountains may be partially wrong, but he says they're not very high, so he's implying that you could see across this plane. But then he says there's rivers through the plane. So I'm like, okay, so old Brichter of Straubenheind Germany is arguing another researcher. He's saying, well, maybe that's referring to a river, valley or a delta,

and that's where he kind of correlate. He didn't say Egypt pacifically, but he was trying to leave it open to Okay, okay, it must be referring to some kind of natural typology of a river, and there's only a few civilizations in the Middle East that could that could be so, but people everybody thinks, you know, pillars of Bercles is a stretch of Boulta, and it's correct Plato was inferring that. But in the Timaeis or Creteus, they're referring to two different types of pillars, the Aegean Sea

and then the Mediterranean. So the priest's decie is saying that you Greeks are from the little Sea and we're from the big Sea.

been that hard for him to travel over. But imagine if you're a Greek, you know, at the time of seven hundred BC, and you land in Egypt for the first time, seeing mego withic structures and temples, you would be shocked. It would be an Atlantean.

So it you know, it makes me wonder about Atlantis and all the rest of this stuff, about what's actually being kept from us and what's actually being let out. But I understand it. It's because there's a dam nearby and the entire place is flooded, so all of this underground chamber that they had is now completely you know, flooded. It's a giant sewer system and they don't want to have to mess around with all this hydrology from the dam to actually excavate. So it's frustrating.

their bread, and it's shipped up by the Phoenicians into into Greece and into the Tartessian region of Spain and Italy. We go back to the slides. I can kind of explain more.

it really is. In reality, it all goes back to the origins of geopolitics and the origins of agriculture and history. It doesn't have anything to do with the new world of Central America or South America. So I wouldn't broad that much because we would have abundance amounts of evidence of that. If you're making such a massive claim. I don't know who this guy is, but some like you know, Exact Rights, Citenary Front Tank, and they make these stories

so much bigger than it really is. And I think that's that's called the historians fallacy, where we're trying to paint our globalistic worldview to this law civilization, but in reality, you know, we would we would have found that evidence by now and wouldn't be you know, spear points and

a few arrowheads. It would be very clear, you know, steel swords, petrified in stone or foundation stones or granite slabs, because you know, if you go to corporate buildings today, that a lot of them have lots of slate of granted everywhere for their buildings and their fancy lawyer offices, and you would find that stuff. It would be buried over time, and when it's buried, is actually preserved compared to.

of seems a little bit Atlantis too. I think there's probably a lot of different, uh you know, combinations or recombinations of how people went back and forth across the Atlantic that maybe didn't get recorded and didn't have much to do with Tommais and Critias.

satellite view. One's called derabogerd On, one's called Gore. So is there a possible conflation that Plato is taking Persian motifs and infusing that with Egyptian motifs and possibly hit type because he's just space. He's saying anything that's not Europa is Atlantis. So that's why the Atlas Mountains are named Atlantis. That's why Atlantia sometimes is referred to the Romans as Ethiopia. So Jimmy is right to put it back in Africa. But we want to make the story bigger.

the brown people conquering the white people. Because the hit Tipes and the Assyrians and the Egyptians were the big empires of the time and they were starting to expand up into Greece, So this was the proto Hellenes would have been the Mysonians, and actually the Mycenians probably would have been darker skinned, a little bit more tan Mediterranean at that time, because the Mycenians mixed with the Minoans,

and the Minoans definitely traded with the Egyptians. And there's one well, I kind of follow my slides here here we actually you can go to the next slide so I can get a burying where I'm at. So yeah, So basically it's just makes logical sense to ask the question. You know, if Plato says that Atlantis stretches from Libya to Asia, and he says it's it's bigger than that, he's referring to this vast continent, and that vast continent has to be Africa and Asia or specifically the Middle East,

because he's talking about a war he's emphasizing. And in Freemasonry, there's a lot of kind of you know, understanding of the kind of the political worldview, but also spiritual mixed and so the Freemasons and the Vatican and the Persians, in the ancient Greeks, they all honored Egypt because Egypt came first before anyone else when it comes to the first true nation state. So you know, like you know, HARRIEUS Truman was a thirty third degree Freemason, I believe

he was. And you know, you probably understood that it has something to do with Egypt. And that's why you have an obelisk in this center of Washington, d C. And why a lot of Freemason temples are inspired by Egyptian architecture because they were the first architects. They were the first nation state, the political entity that unified first before Babylon. It wasn't until Sargon of a Cod came

and forced unification and developed the Acadian civilization. So when people say, oh, the Garden of Eden super, no, that super was no paradise. It was a hellhole ten degrees hotter on average in Egypt, not a Mediterranean climate. There's no black soil to create enough fertility for ag culture, and there's no monumental architecture at the level of Egypt. So it's so stupid that even jobbles kind of latch

onto that. But that's just a misconception because over time, when they first discovered and learned about the Muslim world, you know, they're confusing some of the Muslim writings with the Biblical texts, and they didn't have all the Biblical texts, so they start thinking, well, you know, maybe it's literally Babylon over here. But over time place names changed. There was a place called Babylon Fortress in Cairo, but also Babylon in Iraq. And there's the Gihon River was sometimes

associated with the Nile. But then there's Land of kush Can be Ethiopia, but also in Iran. So it gets confusing because these place things are being recycled over and over. That's why it's confused about Well, one thing, we know for sure it's not Easter Island, as Dandity Dunker might arch you has nothing to do with that because Plaosa's elephants.

and things like that and for display. But yeah, they were They got up to I think islands near Greece or Crete and spread up into Rome. So there were these elephants. So when Playto speaks about that, they did exist at the time in that region. They got them through trade from Egypt.

good spin on it against the other Atlanteans. And there's another Atlanteans that everyone forgets, and it's associated to the war, and it's not the Egyptians, it's the Hittites, Turkey Anatolia. So again that's why I say Plato says across the sea, so across the Greek world, either through the gen c or all the way down to Egypt and Palestine, that region was another world to them, completely different typologies. That

was the Atlantean old world. So when Plato speaks about the khaliplist in the Republic, he's speaking about the future new world of the Greek world and using democracy, well semi democracy, but they all women to vote, but they're debating about whether it keep that monarchic system or democracy. And there's a divide. And when Plato's writing the story, he's keeping in con of the Persian wars. So to the to Plato, Persia is the neo Atlanteans. Hence why

there's round cities. So there actually are one mile diameter long palace round cities that are completely wiped out over time by Alexander the Great and other wars. And he's associated with the Persian world order and Egypt is a part of that. But he wants to put a good spin sort of on Egypt because they want to make

an alliance of Egypt against the Persians. And he's talking about older warters, saying, hey, we can beat back the Persians because we did it before, and the Egyptian said, we did it before, and that old war was with the Hittites. Now we can. I'll show you my sources on that. We can go next slide and I can explain where I get that from.

who could that be? It must be the mace Andeans and they And once in the nineteen fifties we learned about the Santorini eruption, we realized that the center in eruption was a big, major event. It was not just your normal volcano eruption. It was actually a super massive volcano going boom with two thousand mega tons Castle Bravos fifty ton fifty megatons.

is the Mediterranean. It's not the Atlantic Ocean. Because you got to rotate that map and the way the Greeks are looking at the world, as they're saying, across the sea, there's this paradise island filled with elephants, and Plato says it doesn't rain, and there's monumental architecture and all that. So he's using Egypt as that island within the larger continent.

This is one of the reasons that, uh, you know, Alexander the Great went as far east as he did is because he was reading the stories of the ten thousand and he wanted to find out what was actually happening in the ancient world, because this was far more ancient than what they had, so a lot of that stuff really did.

that Plato's leaving some things out. He's not mentioned certain things like the coconut, so there's no coconut. But he does mention that there are like palm trees, and there's legome and cereals and certain other He says there's a lot bents of agriculture, flat plane elongated. So all these other descriptives seem to be alluding to Egypt, especially when he says it doesn't rain in Atlantis, only in the winter times. So that clearly puts it back to North

Africa because people think that, oh, it never rains in Egypt. No, it does rain in Egypt. So that's where you know Ran Across or Graham Hancock and Robert Viola might be gaining things wrong because they say, oh, there's no rain on the Sphinx. Now it's rained. Egypt just had a flood back in like twenty twenty or twenty twenty three, I think it was. It was like three inches of rain in like one hour. So they do get erosion. So there's clear evidence of Mediterranean medicanes coming in once

in a while. I mean there's one that killed twenty thousand people like three years ago that it was in Libya. That's because of a flash flood. So it does rain in Egypt, just not as often, mostly in the wintertime. So Plato says that detail and he knows he says that detail is like, okay, this has to do with something with North Africa, because he says, this island of Atlantis faces the sea. So Plato's trying to describe a delta. It's literally facing the sea, and there's a shoal of mud.

There was liqual. Fact he can say, we're legal faction be saying Atlantis was sinking. So if there's a massive earthquake caused by a supermassive volcano or tsunami, a combination of multiple things, then yeah, the delta would sink and there will be mud in the way. And we see very ruin underwater in Egypt.

city state. The question is is he conflating the Persian cities, assuming they're just as old as Egypt, with Egypt, because sometimes they believe that Egypt was like kind of like the Persians, they were a big empire, and maybe the Egyptians kind of lied and said, oh, yeah, we were a big empire. We conquered those Hittites and those persons.

They could have been lying because there's a legend of Cisus Stress and cis Striss was a Pharaoh to believe that conquered Anatolia, because if you look at you know, Hittite architecture and styles, it's clearly influenced by Egypt. The styles and the rulership system is modeled off of Egypt and their influences that because they were trading and eventually they were even exchanging you know, princes and princesses and having treaties, and eventually they had war at the Battle

of Cadesh. So to the Greeks, yeah, they're conflating a few other regions in the Middle East with round states. But it's possible, well, there was a round lost city state in Egypt, because the Egyptian hieroglyphic city is a circle with an X, so it's possible Egypt may have once had a round city at the capitol of Heliopolis, but it's been so recycled over and over. You know, with Cairo modern day Caro being built on top, it would be almost impossible to find it because you've got

a whole city on top of it. Because Egypt's been so recycled, because the density of the region is so dense, and that's why we call it this garden paradise. The original Garden of Eden. So Plato's Atlantis is basically one and the same with the story of the Garden of Eden. He's probably beating Ugarytic texts or something, and he's putting his own spin on it for political reasons.

creating this milieu, and especially in Egypt. It was recycled by the Greeks later on because they were obsessed with Egypt. That's one of the reasons why Alexander went down there, and why is generals occupied that place is the Ptolemy's for hundreds of years after.

was literally a guard in paradise. So when Plato spent emphasized about in the Tomatos, this this lush you know, paradise and these allotments and they're ruled by twelve kingdoms, which is a reference most likely to the no marks of Egypt where you have a governorship, which is why the Freemasons kind of honored Egypt because you have like there's the governor regions and then there's one president, one pharaoh that rules them all and they're not allowed to

war with each other. It was actually it was when they became too avarice in their power and they wanted to expand. So this is where maybe Plato or solon and is conflating the hit Tites with the Egyptians because they're basically say, oh, they're one and the same, and they're not really, but they were influenced by Egypt, sure,

But that's where the point is. You know, they're conflating that because of the Persians, because the Persians did occupy of Egypt and the Hittites, so they're saying that there was an older Atlantic kingdom before the Persians, and that's a reference more likely to the Trojan Wars. That's the war that it was inferring upon.

so one thousand six hundre boom, the war stops. So basically, Plato's implying that both sides were destroyed in this war, the Greeks and the hit Tips and the Egyptians are telling it the story as a sort of an outside perspective, although in the next paragraph, this is where it's confusing, because Plato's saying first the island of Atlantis, and then he jumps to talk about the war, so people would think, oh, well, it was the people from the island that are the

ones causing the war. No, that's not actually what the Tomato critics is saying. It's just there's a paragraph change and he's just talking about a different region now. So Plato's scaling out now, and that's the problem because you know, back in those days they have a good sense of

location and bearing. So if Platos first starts at this large scale continent, then the island, then the city state, and conflating that the war with maybe being Egypt too, because the Egyptians might want to take credits saying yeah, those hit tights, they were part of our civilization, because that goes back to legend of cis Striss.

a climactic effect over the whole planet, just as the Mount Tambora had effect like in the eighteen hundreds. It would cause more rain events on rivers more, you know, it might make things cooler for about one or two years. Temperature could drop at culture starts to die off in Europe, so people start floating down and that's where you get the Indo Arians. They start moving south. So something happened in the Indos Valley that forced the migration from the

ox civilization down into India. And that's so where you get the so called reference to Indo Ariyans. But it's really the Oxas civilization that gave birth to the Iranians and eventually moved down into the vegan cultures to established that. Now Indians, you know, they obviously are a little nationalistics, so they have debates about that. They don't like the idea that it was the Oxs civilization came down. But the record, archaeological record shows that Mohendro Daro and other

cities in Pakistan. They just kind of collapsed right around year one thousand, seven hundred to one thousand, six hundred PC, and that happens to be around the Centerini eruption, So something may have caused a climactic shift that shifts the geoputical chessboard.

out and it shows from the airdo story. We can actually date the actual artifacts and we can launch we say, well, if that tablet is actually dated to around one thousand, six hundred BC, they might have wrote that story, you know, a few fifty years or maybe twenty years after the event. Same thing with the Mahama. All these stories were written after the Centornianus event. There's we can carbon date all this stuff, and they're all dating after that. They're not

dating older. But people think that the Bible story the Genesis, oh that's two thousand BC, the flood happened. No, the oldest evidence that dates to these tablets are no older than one thousand, six hundred BC, and the maximum date for the centurion in eruption is one thousand and seven hundred BC. So some I think something happened in the Mediterranean region because the Priests of Science is saying the

destruction happened in the homeland of the Greeks. You Greeks were destroyed and you lost your history basically, But the Nile we recovered faster, and naturally the most powerful civilization at the time would recover faster and would not be destroyed. So the logic that, oh, and advance civilization would get destroyed and be completely wiped out is illogical because it would be harder to erode a civilization that loses more shit compared to a small civilization.

And when you actually take the translation of the nine hundred year hypothesis, it puts that to around one thousand, five hundred and fifty BC. Now give or take a margin of air of maybe fifty to one hundred years. So I'm open to the possibility that there are some carbon dates that are slightly off by may fifty to one hundred years, because we do have like the Dixon relic in the Pyramid that is dated to three thousand

over three thousand BC. Now, they said, well, maybe that's very old wood possibility, but I highly doubt they probably took the wood from a branch more likely, which the branch will be younger than the center core of a tree or Yeah, so it's possible there are margin of errors. I'm not ruining that. I can't jump to what random Cars and Graham Hancocks say, because we need the swords. Okay, we have dinosaur bones. Where are the swords? Okay, we

got stuff that's very old and present served. We should have petrified artifacts as something Roy hold, but there's nothing. Well, yeah, I see, we have found that's very.

like crystallography or some kind of resonant technology. And we see in all of these doors different structures, right right, You see these different type of spiritual focuses on megalithic sites as opposed to having you know, the best swords and the best weapons, and you know, it's it's more of a shift away from that, more towards the interior world as opposed to the exterior.

mentioned like flying cars. I don't think Atlantis had that. No, again, that's the concept idea of Atlantis, and that's because you know, I think the occult was in eighteen hundreds really wanted to make Atlantis bigger than it really was, because they're trying to make some sense sense of the world at the time. Because Casey, she was still being born sort.

so it's a he's he's kind of talking. Imagine him talking in you know, an amphitheater stage, and he's kind of exaggerating what Socrates is saying. You know, he Socrates poses crazy stories about uh Egypt's Middle East from Haradus and others.

he's getting his information from. And it's possibly Plato even visited Egypt. Some schours say he even visited Egypt, so if he did, he probably was like, woh, I gotta tell a story. And also there was a Heliky Heliki earthquake that happened in Greece, was a small earthquake but killed a lot of people, might kill people he knew, so that may have triggered also his story or reminded him of an older story that Solon was speaking of and Socrates. But again we referring to Edgar Casey's idea

of Atlantis. I think he's still making it bigger than it really is, and I don't think it has anything to do with a global civilization whatsoever now global at the time of the Egyptians perspective, like, yeah, we are the center of the world, and even to this day they're sort of like the center of the world in.

in the biblical stories. People think, oh, I do believe living peacefully in the garden. But in reality, if you think about it, it's just it's a smaller allegory, simplistic creation story to describe a larger event, and that's elaborated in the Exodus. So the Exodus is just the elaborated version of Genesis. They're not separated by time and space necessarily, So the so called character of Moses, a character of Noah may have been living at the same time. Whoever

they symbolized. They were probably Egyptians more likely. That's but it's so fragmented because all this stuff was consolidated under King Davids and Solomon, and they're trying to figure out who the hell all these characters are, and there's different translations, and you know, they didn't have Google scholar to figure it out, so they just started amalgamating it all together and smushing it and thinking that these characters were literal or they tried to piece a new creation story to

fit their new national identity in the Palestinian Israel region because they wanted to break away from Egypt. Because remember Egypt controlled Palestine and Hittite and the Hittites did too for a very long time, and the people living there were always kind of had animosity against the Egyptians and the Hittites because those were the two big superpowers.

And if you look at the topological and geographic and geopultical origins and archaeological record, Egypt's the elephant in the room. It's not sumer it's not Easter Island, it's not meso America.

is where I learned about these researchers. I have more researchers in essays, and and now I learned that Egypt literally has ruins underwater, Okay, and there's no other civilization has ruins like this underwater. And sure there are only days to May four hundred BC. Some could be older to one four hundred BC. But I bet there's a lot more on the east coast of the Delta, probably a couple hundred yards out into sea underwater, maybe under thirty or forty feet of water. I bet there's a

lot more ruins, and a lot more under Cairo. But there's a big city in the way. But Egypt it's the only civilization that built a giant, massive pyramids, you know, and there's nothing on the planet. There's nothing else we was founded by now by lightar scans or whatever, satellite scans and there's nothing. Okay, Bosnian pyramid, No, that's not a pyramid.

not doing anything to excavate it. So in terms of like you know, cults in the origin of these things, I think that's that's one of the most important sort of factors.

the original Tartessians. When you read details into that from horazz and others, you realize there are motifs and details that seem to point more to Italy because the Greeks first landed in Italy before they ever landed in Spain. But over time the nationalists in Spain adopted the story and placed it in Tartuso's because there was a reference

to the Pillars of Parcoles. It was to Stretcher chippol Trebo's inside that, but they assumed it had to be Spain because a bunch of nationalists in Spain wanted it to be Spain. Same thing with Nazi Germany. They wanted Atlantis to be, you know, associated with white people. Even though Plato literally says there are elephants and it doesn't rain only in the wintertime. And when he says winter, you know, it's like people could go winter, it must

be snow. No, So there's you gotta look at these other details and realize that Plato is giving us all these clues. He says, the phrases like cereals and legomes. He says the island faces the sea, but the word island could be a translated for oasis. And then he says it lives under the light of the sun, which is a plan way of saying it's in the desert. And he says there's horses, ferocious animals. He uses the phrase Atlantic polagae, not Atlantic ocean. So there's different phrases

for water types in Greek. An original one was Atlantic Polagae or Atlantic Pelagos, and that's because there's two references of sea, so that's where that confusion comes about. He also references that there are twelve kings but one sovereign. That's kind of like how Egypt's monarchic system was established. There are main nodes of Egypt, no marks, they call them. He also references the gods, and we know that Poseidon has always been associated with the Atlantean world, not the

Greek world. The Greek world is the Hellenes to Athena, not related to Poseidon. Poseidon, they say, went down to the land of Ethiopia and had a party or something or sometimes for the Atlantia and the Roman translations, so that's.

went up to. Once the Ice Age retreated, they went up that way, but majority of the bull domestication happened in the Middle East. Same with horses. Horses first were domesticated by the Indo Ariyans in Ukraine. But when then they went down to across the Black Sea into Italy, I was confused Anatolia Turkey, and then it was the hit Ties that really domesticated and they sold them to Egypt, and then Egypt became real power once they had horses. So horses are a major influence on the development of

an advanced civilization. Alcoho horse, you would not be an advanced civilization. And that's why Native Americans were not able to fully consolidate power fracture because they couldn't move fast enough and also there's too much land. So geography really dictates how civilization is baked and bubbled up and mixed.

I just you know, sometimes I struggle with this stuff.

to the Greeks because of the hit tights. So he's kind of he's definitely getting motifs from the Middle East because he says phrases like you know there was rivers and there's lots of canals, and these canals branch off rivers. Well that's what agapad. But then he says there are lofty mountains. Okay, well, now he's expanding the scale because he's saying he's talking about the continent, so he's probably referring to the Atlas mountain range. So that was part

of Atlantis. So Jimmy's right to associate with North Africa. It's just it's not the islands Hea. Okay, there's no there's no obelisk and pillars or whatever. There's no monumental architecture on the foundation stone, foundation bedrock of the islands Aha, of the Rickat structure. So that's way out of the context of where harad Is traveled. So wherever Haradus went, that's what Plato's referring to, and he didn't go down

that far south. Now, the Nava Hanna, the navigator did travel around West Africa and he went down we don't know exactly how far, but probably about center of Africa that he went back. So those travels may have influenced Plato as well. But Plato again, if you listen to Tmaths Kris, it's saying within two types of pillars inside the Big Sea, but also conquering the little Sea, and the little sea is the Greek Sea. According to the two priests, there are two priests that were speaking to

Solon we can go next life. So the basic timeline I would put this out is basically at the Santorini eruption. So I do have the grieve scholars that has something to do with Santorini. Every scar I ran across ended up back at this date of one thousand, six hundred PC.

So you've got the Atlantean world, which is the Middle East basically, and then the Tartessian world, which is the Roman Greek War, and that didn't start until definitely after the Bronze Age collapse and the Romans really started to gain a lot more power in Italy, and tartels really wasn't associated to Spain right away. It was associated to Italy because that's where the Greeks first colonized. Then over time they went to Spain. But there's conflation between that legend,

but that's a whole other story. So the original Lanteans, they weren't white. They were probably Berber Egyptian, hit Tied Iranian kind of descent a mix of tan skin or brown skin, and they're from the land of the Sun. You know, we're living under the sun, as Plato says, and then that Bronze Age collapse happens, and then shiftings start to shift. But again the logic is, it's not that the Greek the priest's science is saying Atlantic our

island was destroyed. Now he's actually saying we recovered. Even though there's lots of evidence in Egypt of earthquake damage everywhere on some megalithic structures, and there's a show called Ancient Armageddon just kind of like as Apocalypse, but this was definitely more mainstream documentary on HBO Max and Ancient Armageddon. There are scholars and they're saying that, yeah, there's definitely evidence.

We're seeing that there's a lot of major earthquake damage in all these temples, and they could date to around the Centuri eruption. The problem is they have to move that Bronze Age collapse from the Early Bronze Age to the Middle Bronze Age. So there's a chance that scholars are definitely wrong about the dates of when this happened, and Plato may actually be right sort of but Plato would put it to around one thousand, five hundred and fifty pc if we go by the nine hundred hypothesis.

So that's where you got the Old World Atlanteans, which were basically, you know, the biblical world where they were naked, you know, they dressed more seductively in the sense, but in Europe they had to wear more clothes because it was colder on average, So there's a transition. You know, as clothing developed and technology developed, the Europeans expanded. Once you're written into Ukraine, there is tenfold amount of agricultural

land compared to what eachypt ever had. But it takes a large population to be able to control all that land, so it took a long time for the Europeans to gain that temperate climate zone. But once the population grew big enough, they became more powerful than Egypt the Romans.

And that's why Europe had a geopltical advantage compared to other parts of the world because of their geography and their closeness, their proxymmetry to the original Atlantis and Garden of Eden, because civilizations started in the Middle East of gobecuy Tepe and karin Tepe.

the way up into the Caucasus. And we see today the Russian language is based off of the Greek, you know, morphology of their their alphabet, So you've got.

enough went across the Black Sea. But the majority of trade routes are not going up to Europe until the Roman periods.

shit up too, and I could be definitely wrong. But when I think of Atlantis, even if it's Egypt or like some kind of like a subsidy of Egypt or whatever, all I think about is fallen angel technology communicating with X extraterrestrial, interdimensional whatever type of spirits fill in the blank, and like having some kind of like otherworldly technology. Like you're not going to convince me they build the pyramids

with fucking ropes and pulleys. You're not going to convince me that the the we're like slaves with whips and chains and like stuff like that. Like I'm totally you'll never convince me of that in a million years.

He believed that basically the idea, you know, whatever you bind on Earth is bound in heaven, and the gods will influence geopolitics. So when the super massive volcano goes boom, they believe possibility that the gods may have caused the volcano go boom. Now, did the actual UAPs make the volcano go boom? Probably not. The UAPs were probably just sitting around watching. As the Bible says, they're the watchers

when it comes to actual supernatural interventions into history. If you go back a slide, you know what.

a slide to actual understanding of supernatural entities. Go back one slide, USh kind of explain. I think two slides are okay, So this is where you know, this may have nothing to go. I'm sorry, go back, but go forward, I think, oh, go forward, I'm sorry, okay, this is go back.

We do have understanding that there are lots of evidence of hominids, dozens of bones, hundreds if not thousands, and more is being found, and something did change in us, and scientists are arguing in anthropologistaying there's something changed with the fox speed two gene and the nova gene in our brain related to language, and the vocal cord lyrics

elongated and changing its form slightly. And then there's the mutation for us to be able to handle milk for lactose, and that happened around ten thousand years ago, and then there's mutation of the chin. So every hominid that we find that you know, like Michael talks about you always want to say, oh, what if these hominants were advanced, No, they're archaic. We can tell clearly by the anatomy, and

that's it shows that there's something mutating in us. The question is, can UAPs do small discrete interventions at the molecular biological level. I would say as a Catholic, I would not rule that out, but it can be very discrete. So if evolution doesn't steer us in the right direction, once in a while, maybe these UAPs will intervene at the genetic level, but at a micro discrete matter that we wouldn't be able to tell. And it completely shifts

how we evolve into an advanced civilization. So we go from being in Plato's cave, not understanding the whole world in the big picture as a hominid, and all of

a sudden at around seventy thousand years ago. So if you want to say there's a lot of civilizations in the past, it would have to be be have to be after seventy thousand years ago, because that's when all these mutations start popping up and the birth of art really starts to get and hold with the or human's actual modern Homo sapien sapiens going up into Europe and doing paintings there and those abstract paintings. But other hominins

never did abstract paintings. It wasn't conceptual, It wasn't They had the power of synthetic language. They had communication just like a dog does some extent, but they could not speak. They were physically impaired by that ability. But all of a sudden, as the Bible says, you know, he blew into Adam, and then Adam became a man. He had the spirit of God was in the image and likeness.

So something definitely changed es and evolution does explain like ninety percent of it, but once in a while there could be these slight, abnormal mutational changes, and these UAPs clearly exist. The question is how much intervention have they really done in history, because again, all it took was

for one interdimensional being. If you want to believe Jesus was one of them to intervene in the Roman Empire and boom chain reaction of the whole geoplical worldview, just like that, it was only thirty eight thirty three years or less. Just a magic wizard man like Gandalf appeared and boom, it changed history forever. Same thing with Mohammed. Mohammad had experienced boom. It changes the whole geopolitical chessboard.

So angels or these into the interdimensional beings may have a slight hand in guiding the program or the simulation, but it's not ultimately it's the cosmic god or Allah or you know, as Plato describes. You know, there is one cosmic god that's hidden. He is ultimately control of order versus chaos, and there is this kind of trajectory into orders. We see we moved from something, We moved from something ugly and fearful to something beautiful and loving.

And that that's profound in human in the planet of this history, because there's no evidence that we have buildings like this. Back ten thousand years ago, we would found the foundation stones of the universes. You know, they would have built something like a university if they advanced at our level, but we have nothing. It would not be completely gone. Okay, look at Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore would be there for a million years, assuming people don't blow

it up. Or Crazy Horse Monument in South Dakota as well, So we have something definitely changed the question is did these UAPs have a hand. Absolutely when it comes to cultural influence. They appear to people, maybe to this one prophet or whatever, or they manifest physically as avatars poof in and out, and they're influencing culture. And that's what Jacques Falle is saying. So yes, they are having intervention. But Plato isn't really actually as concerned with the gods

as you might think. He's more of like communists if you actually listen to him at times, he's a little bit more atheistic, but he knows the gods exists, but he's taking the allegory of the gods and making allegorical for geopolitical reasons because he's more concerned about politics, like everybody seems to be.

but he's ignoring me. He's give me the silent treatment, but he's aware and he he would probably be open to the eypothsis of Egypt being an influence on Atlantis because of authors or researchers like Jake Gwen Griffiths of Oxford University, who's the first to propose it. But he's

ignoring presents to his audience. He's intentionally ignoring it. He's not bringing up the connection between Egypt and Hittites and the Persians, which would fit with the mainstream archaeological record, other than maybe shifting the Bronze Age collapse to the Middle Bronze Age instead of the earlier or Late Bronze Age or earlier sorry get confused, like the Early Bronze Age at one thousand and two hundred PC versus one

thousand and six hundred PC. So that's where I'm open to possibility that dates are off by a few hundred years at the most. But Flint Dibble and Mian are so focused more on fighting back against more of the New Age at perspective and not really presenting an actual rational perspective on Atlantis because they are more liberal and they understand that Atlantis does have connections with the Nazis, and Nazis wanted to take Atlantis and make it their

own story. Just as Eric Vondanaka and Zacharisichen are making things bigger than it really needs to be. They're trying to fit to their national politics. Again, it's political. Things become political even in archaeology and science, and Plato was very politic. He wrote the story because he hated the purchase because they wiped out Athens, so naturally that he's writing me story stories to figure out should we be like the old world or we could be something new?

And I would I would tell doctor Miano and doctor Flint Dibble that yeah, Atlantis is real, but you just need to present these other researchers that you're ignoring, like Jay Gwen Griffiths is probably number one, J G. Bennett,

old Rickter of Stupennheind, Germany, and many others. And they're all mostly from Europe and they figured out this, but they're in other languages and you have to find the English translations of their work to be able to figure out what they're arguing, which is a lot logical and

rational that even Graham Hancock is starting to shift. He say, Okay, I understand Lances to me is more of a concept for a lot of civilization in the Ice Age, and I'm not ruin out there might be another source of civilization in the Ice Age at the level of Karen Teppe go Beckley Tepe, another one of those, somewhere in the Middle East, or maybe even long the equator zone, as Graham is arguing, is probably where that lostivilization would be. I agree there's a chance of that, but today we

reach the level of Roman Egypt. Absolutely not. We would have found those Megoithic statues at that level, but we don't see that. So Randall, I'm sorry. Meano Inflant's right, there is no evidence, you know, of transfer of certain types of plants like apples or corn. There's no evidence of glass. Glass wasn't really invented until later periods after the Bronze Age, and there's some glass the Egyptians had in the hit tides, but not near at the level

until later periods. So glass we should be able to find glass. You could break down glass, but there's still be sharks and you could tell it be manufactured. We have never found any glass in any burial mount ever, other than natural glass like ones found in Egypt actually from produced by from asteroids millions of years ago, or iron like we should be able to find some kind of iron pick would have survived by now. Or the fact that all the oil wells are not depleted. There's

still bundance amounts of oil. And if you want to show that oil has been depleted, you know, you have to be able to say that there's like no easy oil to extract, but there's plenty of easy oil, which indicates that there was never any advancedivization within the past thirty million years now fifty five million years ago. Now we can argue there's a chance there could have been a loss civization, or you know, if beyond.

I think, like Atlantis, they had like advanced technology. I don't believe ins and like you know, I just I think, you know, there could be multiple things that are true at the same time. I don't think you have to necessarily find evidence of Atlantis for it to have existed. It may just have it in a different state. I don't think so, because I mean, people believe it in Santa Plus and ship like that, and they have no evidence of that.

We literally find ancient whalebones on the surface. So when people, you know, Berber tribes ran across that, they say, hey, that's a Leviathan because they literally saw a giant bone that's you know, fifty feet long or you know, the the spine of it so that's where they're getting that from the fact that we had that exposed whale bone or some type of ancient whale that's like fifty years ago.

where doctor Mionnodin. People don't understand that the conservation of matter can be broken. That law in physics is going to change as UAP disclosure is revealed to people. And Big Brother, the military, the Pentagon, the intelligenceies are holding everyone's hand right now, so they don't scare the children. We are the children. So there these entities.

feet tall people today. But in the Bible specifically, people are correlating the Native American legends with the Bible and reality. They're not the same. Again, you're change. You're putting the locale of the Bible into the New World, which has nothing to do with the Old world. Bible. Reality is a reference to is a reference to the Egyptians, and.

Giant Islands. Now Magellan says that he met these giants in person, as well as the people who go down to Patagonia who said that they met giants in person too. These different sources from all these.

they understood. So for them to all be saying that, and then watching the malfeasance of the Smithsonian Institute as well as other government entities, it's really hard to conclude that it's not a massive conspiracy to cover up this part of us that now we know nothing about.

out of go Beckwa Teppe and Karen Tape. But there's something weird there, and the Bible does reference is polydactylism, so there, but it's the question is is there's some tradition being passed down from Kiren Teppe go Beckue Tepe into the biblical reference with the reference of polydactism. Possibly. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that UAPs could mutate a few humans, but it would just be some outliers,

a mutation born and then it dies. But it's not persistent where we could see it everywhere because someone, some construction worker would have dug it up by now take a picture and post on Instagram someone.

the boneyard up in Alaska. They took all of this stuff from the boneyard up in Alaska down to the Smithsonian to put it on display, and they just dumped it in the river like that type of irresponsible behavior needs to be called out, and far too often people just say it was that they that they took on behalf of a person. No, I don't, I don't know. It's it's the same thing. It's the Cosmos Club and the Smithsonian Institute working together to keep down certain aspects

of society. And we have the Cosmos Club pamphlets and the things that they wrote about saying we need to keep certain truths from the general public. These are the founders of the Smithsonian Institute writing that in the Cosmos Club this is very important stuff that now we have huge chunks of our own history missing because of the elites that were mismanaging all of this evidence. And they're still doing it to this day, and it's really irresponsible for us.

or he's not reading it, or he doesn't care. That's what doctor are calling out, and I'm gonna call that out.

They've been outside of the control of the American people for a long time now, and we need.

to get access to that. See, I will go straight to ma Sonian directors say you give us that, or we're going to drain your bank account.

a divide. Yeah on Dandy Dunker or Graham or Jimmy for Brighton inside there are a lot of them are right leaning, and then you're encountering more than left leaning academics and you're colliding, and there's not too many centrists like me to speak out say yes, there really was Atlantis and definitely has something to do with the Middle East, and it's broabably Egypt, because as Robert Pavow said, or not Roppervow, what's the guy that went on Joe Rogan

that died. Oh he had the white beer and blanket out of his name, but he was saying that, you know, there basically was an Atlantis. To Joe Rogan, it has something to do with Egypt. I think it was oh man like it. I'm sorry, but I agree with Robert Vow and others that Egypt could be older because I do see artifacts that do have margin of errors. The dates of the Exus has a margin of air. Santorini

has a marginer error. So when you add all these up, yes, there is something off of the dating records on things, and our coeusion should be open to that. But they do ignore the fact that, yeah, actually Santerni could be one thousand, six hundred and sixty eight BC or one thousand seven RBC. Is there a connection with the Indos Valley migration and collapse? And they say, well, well, we want to get to that because it complicates things. Well, yeah,

it might complicate things. Okay, let's actually look at Platon. See there is some historical historicity that's shaping his worldview. Real things. Elephants are real, the sun is real, the gods are real to some extent. They call them UAPs or angels and demons. Could they be aliens? The evidence isn't strong enough yep for that. So let's go to the last slide and I'll just kind of end it here.

Let's see, Yeah, so for example, I'm definitely open to the possibility of something even more macro than the story of players Atlantis, Like, could there have been a lot of civilization at fifty five million years ago? Yes, Doctor Flint, Devil and Miano should be open to that possibility, because when you're going back fifty five million years ago now, entropy has enough time to completely alter things. Oil would

be replenished, so it wouldn't be just depleted. It takes about fifty about thirty to fifty million years for that to be replenished. So it's a possibility Mount Rushmore would be completely gone. Okay, crazy horse monument as well. So yeah, things could completely roll by that timescale, but not just within the past twelve thousand, fifteen thousand years, no, or even one hundred thousand years. Mount Rushmore would still exist

two hundred thousand years from now. It would be hard to notice it, but you could see some stylistic carving on it. So, but if you want to even go bigger, you could say even the pre Carnian Peluvian event two hundred and thirty million years ago, a massive extinction event could completely wiped off the civilization. A massive rain event that happened there, but it has nothing to do with any biblical stories, Plato stories, nothing at all, completely disconnected.

Same thing with Venus. There's a real possibility that Venus could have been just like our more so than Mars, because the sun was smaller and then it was more in the habitable zone, and Venus may have actually had a moon, and the hypothesis is that moon may have been mercury. If that's the case, there's a high probability Venus would have had a civilization because they now have detected according to the Japanese spaces and she that they

found granite, the chemical signature of granite and phosphe. So it's looking very likely there's a possibility that, you know, if Venus has a civilization, Now what does that mean with the whole aspect of religion and the supernatural and paranormal things, because it shows that you know, this idea of Jesus, like is he an avatar? What do we mean by avatar? Is the debate on whether he's an

interdimensional being. How many Jesuses have there been or is there different angels or being intermensial beings for every place planet, But they're not the same being. So this does have a theological implication in the long run, which I'm open to. But we gotta wait until they send those satellites back to Venus, which Japan and Russia are gonna do in

the twenty thirties. It's gonna change the conversation big time in the late twenty thirties, I would say, and I would definitely be open, like C. S. Lewis was open to the possibility that Venus could have had a loss civilization.

And now, okay, it wasn't gonna be within our timeline, but hundreds of millions of years ago, because right now NASA's only found about twelve out of six thousand exoplants may be considered super harpbule, but that only means it has plants, doesn't mean it has a civilization, because our civilization is like a blipin time on Earth, so we don't. It's hard to line up space and time. Venus is

so close to us, but they're separated by time. So there really are probably extraterrestrials, but they're probably stuck on their Garden of Eden, just as we are. And that's the sad reality. Probably the Fermi Paradix truly is a thing, and the great filters, and we're not gonna carl Sagan said, you know, arsivilization is like one second of three hundred

and sixty five days of the Earth's lifespan. What happens in that next second, We're gonna just be gone, and maybe two hundred million years later another one pops up your backyard squirrel evolves to be the next hominid. It could recycle, but it's gonna be have to be a larger scale, not sure scale as Randall, carls and Graham Hancock kind of want to believe on the recycling of civilization.

to look like a crab. Well, what if there's a hominid version of that where everybody, every ape or whatever that gets to this level of evolution starts to look like a human.

a dog can't. A dog can't write, it doesn't have the right anatomy at all. It has to be the right form. So this is why instead of calling intelligent design, I would say intelligent programming. And that's mainly due to the anthropic principle. Like the way the laws of physics works inevitably leads to a natural form that is made in the so called image and likeness of the gods. Now, again, the gods are purely spiritual that could take av to

our forms. But is there a possibility that these so called UAPs are not just immortal gods that were always immortal.

But the hyphpods is that maybe they were from planets and then they become a God, because that's what the Egyptians believe, that humans become a god, but a small g god, not the big cosmic one, but you move up the ranks of the of the heavens and a higher evolutionary spiritual form, I guess, and that's a possibility that some of these UAPs we experience, maybe entities that were born from Venus a billion years ago and now

they're immortal and flying around screwing around with us. That's a weird way to look at but I think there's one NASA professor or NASA administrator was talking with Diana Pasoka and was kind of bringing up that idea sort of. But that's that's out there, and I'm open to that possibility that because you know, people say that Mary is manifesting as something like a UAP, and then you get this pentagondactment called the Immaculate Constellation, a wink wink to

the Virgin Mary. I'm like, why are they doing that? And then you make me want make you wonder, Okay, is Mary a god? What do we define as a god? Is she an angel? What do we define as an angel? What's considered immortal? So the hierarchy and nature of angels is is pretty complicated. It comes down to basically their power level. In some sense, they're not all equal in their power, and they go up the rank, up the ladder. So some may surely have been from Venus for all

we know. But they're no longer you know, humans, They're not depending on the planet anymore. They have become transcendent to a higher reality.

Romans and the Persians. So they actually were a little bit more advanced because the technologies and the techniques they would have used wuld have been very similar to how they built the cathedrals of Europe. So how the Masons built that is probably what they've learned from how the Egyptians built their temples. So they probably had cranes, they

had pois and levers, but in a complicated form. So if you look up, for example, the image of the Cleopatches needle in Central Park that the Freemasons had had moved, they had this giant scaffolding let not levitating but suspending it in a fulk crumb the whole obelisk, and they could tilted with ropes and different poison. They used metal, of course, and horses, hundreds of horses, and it was a complicated thing, and they did it, and then the Vatican did the same thing, and the column in Saint

Petersburg did the same thing. But it was a complicated system. Wasn't just a bunch of people pulling with ropes, No, they had to develop an architectural scaffolding system with mechanical advantages to be able to move this whole thing even wheels. So yeah, I think the Egyptians had more. Yes, exactly the Egyptians.

So sure, I agree, it's definitely top down. All these officers they cannot publicly speak without permission from the superiors, I agree. But yes, it's from the top down, because the Pentagon knows they can't control the phenomenon what happens if the phenomenon does do something that's ontological, like in twenty eleven over the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. That was a real event, and Fox News just kind of showed the wrong video and CNN just that it's

probably just something fake. But there are five different angles of that shot in twenty eleven, something happened over there and after.

very deceptive, and they're very powerful relative to us. So yeah, it's very hard to prove the existence of interdimensial beings. But we now have cameras for the first time ever on this planet in the past hundred years, and they're starting to appear the veil is lifting. The Pentagon has to prepare for that. It's not just the Pentagon, it's Japan.

because they will mess with you. And they absolutely do, because fifty percent of them are basically purely demonic, and the other fifty percent are very discreet and sneaky, but they don't want to show themselves fully. Majors of bold plasmay like a shape ship into metal, but I talked about this on Reverse Channel a lot. We have a whole two hours of this, so you guys can check that out on Reverse Channel.

the gods for warfare was a common thing. I mean, it was just like you just didn't know how to prove it.

really represent us at all. That's that's the issue that everybody's sort of coming into, is that we're at a point right now.

it forces wars. If you had open land, like in the Midwest, you can force a way a lot faster and unify that region if you have horses. I mean, that's why the Native Americans couldn't conquer or fight back because they didn't have enough horses, they didn't have enough guns, they didn't have a big enough population. They're wiped out by a disease.

in the University of Iowa. And it sucks that. You know, Yeah, Israel basically wants to genocidally murder people out so they can gain more strategic real estate put their hotels on. It's sad, but that's the sad reality. Well, it comes down to the land on this.

that they were coming to. This was a lot of the mythology that came through the.

the ultimate thing. So when people say, oh, we're gonna we're gonna go, you know, defend Israel and expand Israel because we Israel's being attacked and all that, in reality, no, Israel just wants to expand their border on prime real estate to secure the state more, and they will murder people out.

puntable resources. But the fact that you know, fifty percent of the United States is desert and the Middle East is pretty much all desert except for the Garden of En of Egypt and Atlantis. I guess you could say. And you know, China's so confined in that one region of the Yale River. It forces these wars to happen because there's a scarcity. It's because the scarcity that forces

these geopolitical agendas. It's not just ideology. Ideology is justification to go murder people, just as Catholics did that we digress the States was justification. Listen, Okay, I don't agree with everything he says, but he's right. Ther is trying to kill us, and that's why there's so much war, because we're fighting for primarial estate. That's a logical argument. It's nothing conspiratorial. But there are conspiracy that force that people make up to justify stealing land, like the Israel

wants to expand off to the Tiger's River. That's insane.

The Mason started to believe that America basically was Atlantis, but then that shifted as a Natian Stollarys said, well, maybe it's in the Little Atlantic Ocean, and then that kind of shifted. So, but modern scholars now no longer believe that because now we have subundance of a months of evidence, and to say that it doesn't make any logical sense because now we can compare it with other writings of Plato and say it was just talking about the Middle East, where all of our problems come from.

until now only been known to a limited number. He's saying that there is a huge connection between America Atlantis and Egypt, right.

and that's why an obelisk was placed there. Wasn't just for George Washington. It was to say that we are the new Atlantis, we are the new and it was Egyptian.

you took from Egypt. Sure, but it's like a one way, one way route unless you have more advanced sailing techniques. But we don't see evidence that Egypt had advanced sailing techniques at the level of Christopher Columbus's ships. It is they just they were using their ships mainly in the eastern Mediterranean and the Nile. It wasn't designed to go across the Atlantic. So sure, a few may have ended up in Central America, but they got stranded there. Maybe

they a slight influence on the American cultures there. It's a possibility. I wouldn't rule that out, but I think that's more of the Freemason's ideology in the early periods, wanting to believe that the Americas was basically Atlantis. But I don't think modern day Freemasons believe that anymore. Maybe Randall Carlson well random believes in the Azers more because of that mappen, But Randall's not your normal Freemason. Yeah,

it's hard to say. But again, people's ideas in the old days, you know, eighteen hundreds, even then, it shifted so much because we have so much technology now and archaeological evidence to change what actually is the reality and reality is it all goes back to the Middle East.

Cosmic Peach podcast. But thanks for having me Nick, It was really fun. I enjoyed the conversation.

We had Nick and Headless there with me, Subliminola and Rat. Next week we're reading the au Is so that that should be fun. But yeah, check out our show we did last night on the I'm blanking the Servant in the Rainbow with Annie and Robert. Uh, I'm blanking on names dude, Robbie Marks.

let me uh Wednesday. Him and Doc both book Wednesday night, So I'm gonna have to work that out somehow, So one of them will be Wednesday night, maybe the the one Monday or I don't know. I'll have to get at them tomorrow. And then Dana from Rotting Jewels will be on Thursday, so that's gonna be a banger. And me and Headless have our Rustic Gods episode that we'll be doing this week, probably next weekend since we're so

busy this weekend, so y'all stay tuned for that. But until next time, everybody, this this was this was a great episode.

of our legends. Though gods they were, And as the elders of our time choose to remain blind, let us rejoice, and let us sing and dance and ring in the new hailed atlantis.