Throwback Episode: Hall, Howard, and Seymour - The Mercenaries

So buy me a coffee dot com slash JFK book. Today we're going to talk about three of the more important people involved in the assassination, particularly Lawrence Howard, William Seymour Lauren Hall, the three men paramount in establishing the Oswald legend in Dallas. So, without further ado, let me begin. Three of the more central characters in the assassination are also the three who attract the least amount of attention. The names of William Seymour, Lawren Hall, and Lawrence Howard

are scattered throughout the Assassination literature. However, their importance in the events leading up to and including November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, has largely been overlooked. When people discuss this nefarious trio, it is usually in regards to their involvement with inter PENN or the Intercontinental Penetration Force. INTERPENN was the creation of a man named Jerry Hemming, but

it was supported and finance by the CIA. They were responsible for the organization of training camps for the anti Castro Cuban exiles and other mercenaries for the purpose of carrying out raids in Cuba. The camp on the north side of Lake Pontetrain, often associated with David Ferry's anti Castro activities, was set up and run by Hemming's INTERPENN group. According to Spartacus Educational INTERPENN was involved in training members of the anti Castro groups funded by the Central Intelligence

Agency in Florida in the early nineteen sixties. When the government began to crack down on raids from Florida. In nineteen sixty two, INTERPEND set up a new training camp in New Orleans. During this period, Heming was arrested by customs for gun running, but the charges were later dismissed. INTERPENN was a nexus of CIA agents, private contractors, and

anti Castro Cubans. Some of the names associated with interpenner Roy Hargraves, Dick Wattley, Ronald Augustinovich, Edmund Kolby, Ralph Schlafter, and Edwin Collins. Lauren Hall, Lawrence Howard, and William Seymour, however, were the most significant and impactful members of this group, as it pertains to the assassination of JFK. Lauren. Hall was your typical gung ho right wing anti communist mercenary type. He started at five foot eleven inches tall, weigh around

two hundred pounds with jet black hair. He often claimed to be a Cuban, using the name of Lorenzo Pacio, but in reality he was born in Newton, Kansas in nineteen thirty. Hall had joined the Marines in mid nineteen fifties. By nineteen fifty nine, he was a captain in Castro's Revolutionary Army. Hall had become involved in a plot to overthrow Anastasio Samosa debail the Nicaraguin Dick Tator. However, he and others were caught and arrested by the Cuban government.

Hall served six months in a Cuban jail cell quote. Also in prison at this time was Santos Traficante Junior. On July eighth, nineteen fifty nine, Castro deported three Americans, Trafficante Hall and Henry Savadra, a former employee of the Capri Hotel in Havana, which was reportedly run by a syndicate including Trafficante and Charlie the Blade Touring. In nineteen sixty one, Hall moved to California, where he set up

his personal base of operations for his anti Castro activities. However, in sixty two to sixty three he was associated with elements of the No Name Key group of CIA agents and anti Castro guerrillas in southern Florida. It is known that Trafficante made contacts with some of the No Name Key Group members and may have funded some of its operations. Hall often attempted to solicit money under the guise of

the Cuban Rebel Army. However, others who ran in the same circles as Hall believed this was a scheme to pocket the cash. Hall had traveled the country in the early nineteen sixties giving speeches to theirus right wing groups, including the John Birch Society and the minutemen he often traveled with quote Mexican Larry Howard, Jerry Hemming, and William Seymour. According to an FBI informant within Enter Penn, despite his numerous attempts at creating an alibi for November twenty second,

nineteen sixty three, Hall was most certainly in Dallas. Hall is inextricably linked to the assassination, where I place him on the sixth floor of the Texas school Book Depository, firing shots from the west side window. His weapon of choice a Johnson thirty O six rifle, which he had picked up from a man named Richard Hathcock in Los Angeles. Quote. Other documents released by the ARB discussA Johnson's semi automatic thirty out six rifle that was apparently found in Daley

Plaza soon after the shooting. The documents strongly linked this rifle to two men who have long been suspected of being involved in the assassination plot, Lauren Hall and Jerry Patrick Hemming. Lauren Hall and an unidentified Hispanic man took the weapon about a week before the assassination. Hall himself told Hathcock, the California owner of the rifle, five days prior to the assassination that he had to catch a

flight to Dallas. In the months leading up to the assassination, Lauren Hall and Jerry Hemming, who had been using the name Jerry Patrick, met with Hathcock at the offices of his private detective business in Los Angeles, Allied International Detectives. He had become associated with these men through the relationship with Dick Wattley, who had introduced the pair to Hathcock.

Hathcock told investigators that he had loaned the men one hundred dollars in exchange for a set of golf clubs and a Johnson thirty six rifle with a Bushnell scope. An FBI memo written by S. A. Jerome K. Crowe, detailing a conversation with Hathcock about Hall and Hemming, was dated November twenty third, nineteen sixty three, the day after

the assassination. The implication of this date is that the FBI knew about this rifle immediately after Kennedy was killed, whether through fingerprints or by tracing the serial number, or an act of psychic phenomenon. The FBI was able to obtain the full backstory to the rifle less than twenty five,

four hours after the president had been shot. The statements made by Hathcock indicated that Hall had picked up the rifle from him on September seventeenth or eighteenth, nineteen sixty three, and that five days before Kennedy was killed, Hall had

told him he was on his way to Dallas. Halfcock told authorities quote they wanted to borrow the one hundred dollars, and what they had for security was a set of golf clubs and a rifle which was a thirty caliber Johnson modified to semi automatic operation, which I believed held nine rounds and was also equipped with a Bushnell variable scope. I gave them one hundred dollars and they left the clubs in the rifle. For several weeks after that, I

saw both men frequently. Then. My understanding was that Jerry Patrick returned to Miami to set things in operation down there for a planned invasion of Cuba. What they had planned, essentially was to blow up some oil storage tanks on the west coast. Lorenzo Hall stayed there and was in

the Private Eye office very often, almost every day. He told me that he and Patrick had originally been in Castro's army when They believed that he was trying to free Cuba from Batista, found out as a communist, had no interest in the people, and they turned on Castro, with the result that they were both imprisoned and sentenced to be shot. Both through manipulations and through friends, managed to escape and get to this country. Hall and Heming

were a real deal. Both were contract agents for the CIA, involved heavily with the anti Castro Cuban movement and the various organizations that surrounded them at the time. After the Bay of Pigs incident, it seems as though many of these militia types were lost. They were angry at both Kennedy and the CIA. Many of them found their way to New Orleans, Dallas, Los Angeles, and other cities that had a heavy intelligence influence where they could find work.

Although many researchers put Hemming in Dallas on November twenty second, the evidence of his involvement in the assassination is minimal at best. Heming claims that he was in Miami that the time Kennedy was killed. Other than a photograph of a man slightly resembling Hemming standing in Dealey Plaza wearing a great business suit and one potential witness, I haven't seen anything concrete that would make me feel comfortable naming Hemming as one of the plotters. The potential witness to

Hemming's presence was a man named Philip Ben Hathaway. He and a man named John Stephens Rutterer Lawrence were walking near Main and ackerd in downtown Dallas just prior to the assassination when they saw a man carrying what they believed to have been a rifle case quote. I saw this man walking towards me, walking towards commerce, and took particular attention to him because of his size. I am

six' five and weigh two hundred. Pounds this man was very, tall approximately six six or sixty seven over two hundred and fifty, pounds very thick and big throughout the, chest in his, thirties dirty blonde hair worn a crew, cut was wearing a great colored business suit with white dress, shirt fair. COMPLEXION i remarked to my friend that there was a guy carrying a gun in all this, crowd and made the remark that he was probably a secret.

Serviceman other than this description By, hathaway which Matches hemming to a, t and a photo of a similarly gray suited man In Dley, plaza which does Resemble. HEMMING i have little else linking him to the. Plot heming may very well have been, involved but my research Into heming and the assassination's story AS i know know it have yet to intersect in any meaningful. WAY i have yet to be able to Place heming concretely In dallas at the.

Time there is no doubt he fit the. Mold he was certainly of the same beliefs and attitudes of the men involved in the, assassination but without corroboration or plausible storyline involving, Him heming may have been just right where he said he. Was, hall on the other, hand was most certainly. Guilty, he like many other of the men questioned about the, assassination provided over the top, explanations going above and beyond what was needed to say in order

to defend. Himself he had even testified with immunity before The House subcommittee On assassinations in the nineteen. Seventies hall tried very hard to establish an alibi For november twenty, second nineteen sixty, three claiming he was In Los. Angeles he testified that his wife had seen him on that, date which has never been. Corroborated he also claimed he had been at a business CALLED Ipco Hospital supply from noon until around three thirty pm with a man Named Robert.

Hudson ipco actually Employed. Hall beginning a few weeks after the. Assassination hudson had provided statement to, investigators Giving hall a much needed. Alibi, however his statements were later quietly. Recanted according To Harold wiseburg quote it was, preliminarily it was preliminary that Mister hudson And hall were lunching together and discussing the sale of an. Automobile The hudson statement was

conclusive to time and. Date, however After hall's appearance in court In, Bakersfield, California hudson recanted his statement and a little note of this was made, or AS i was to find, out was not made available at the state level to influence the decision on Getting hall To New. Orleans, hall as you well, know is a master of the twisted, story, events. ETC i THINK i recall your conversation pretty close when you guys were In Los angeles talking To hall at

THE Va, hospital That hall could be a trigger. Man wiseburg, continued stating That hall had been traveling around the country for a year or, more speaking and raising money for various, groups but Once november twenty, second nineteen sixty, three, arrived all Of hall's activities stopped. Cold was his seizing of activities due to his culpability And canny's, assassination or simply a general sense of impending doom for all attached to

the Anti castro, Movement probably a bit of. Both according To David kaiser in his two thousand and eight Book The road To, dallas He hall drove With hemming To florida in early nineteen sixty, three stopping over In, dallas where they had met oil Geologist Lester, Logue Robert, morris And General, walker and received from some funds From, logue a political associate OF. H. L. Hunt the timing Of hall's first trip To dallas was determined to have been

In march of nineteen sixty. Three it was later on In april of nineteen sixty three That heming And hall arrived In, miami where they are said to have met With Santos, Traficante Sam giancanna And Johnny. Roselli the alleged purpose of this meeting was to discuss an upcoming rate On cuba led by Adventurer Eddie, bio scheduled For, june even Though hall was known To, TRAFFICANTE i find the

likelihood that this meeting occurred as. Slim if it did, occur it was most certainly not in regards to Anti castro. Operations three of the biggest names in The american mafia at ninth teen sixty three gather In miami to meet With Lauren hall About. Cuba, REALLY i don't think. So. No, now would these guys have head To miami to meet With Lauren, hall potential gunmen in the assassination Of President. Kennedy that is a far more believable story if this

meeting actually took. Place, unfortunately all we have are vague generalities on the timing Of hall On hemming's. Trip what we know is that the two met With General Edwin walker at his home In dallas in Late march of nineteen sixty. Three this is just prior to the shooting At walker's home On april, tenth allegedly By Lee Harvey. Oswald it is around this time that the two men arrive In, miami but we are left guessing the exact. Dates even if we had dates provided to us by authoritative,

sources could we really trust them to be. Correct what seems much more likely is that Hall On hemming Left Los angeles For, dallas where they met With walker and planned his staged assassination, attempt which would occur On april. TENTH a witness identified As Kirk, coleman who was fourteen year old neighbor Of, walker's told investigators that there were two men involved in the shooting and that neither of

them Was. Oswald coleman heard the shot from the doorway of his, bedroom which led to the yard north side on the north side of his. Home upon running, outside he looked over the fence bordering The mormon church adjacent to his, house where he observed the two. Men although it was dark, Out coleman was aided by the floodlights in the church parking, lot giving him a clear view of the men and their. Activities they were on the other side of the church parking, lot about twenty five

to thirty feet From coleman's. Fence he described one of the men as five foot, ten one hundred and thirty pounds and really. Skinny he had bushy brown, hair a thin, face and a large. Nose he believed this man to be, young around nineteen to twenty years. Old he, stated this man rushed back from the back of the, car which had been idling with his lights. On he said he was a nineteen Fifty white or Tan. Ford the man

entered the vehicle hurriedly and left the. Scene the second man was described By coleman as having been around six foot, one weighing two hundred. Pounds he had, long dark sleeved shirnon in dark. Pants coleman was unable to provide any further. Description before getting into his vehicle in nineteen fifty eight black and white two Toned, chevy the man leaned into the back seat through the driver's side door as placing something. There the car had also been left idling with the lights.

On the man entered the driver's seat and sped. Away coleman told investigators he had never seen these men At walker's home before or after the attempt on his. Life after being shown numerous pictures Of, oswald he declined to Name oswald as one of the two. Men according To James kelliher's, book he was expendable national, security political and bureaucratic cover. UPS a man Named Max klanch was working security detail For. Walker several days before the attempt on his.

Life he had seen a suspicious vehicle drive By walker's home several. Times he described this car as a nineteen fifty Seven chevy and the driver was described as A cuban or dark. Complected another associate Of, walker's identified As robert Er Allen, surrey had a similar. Experience surrey was also the man responsible for the Controversial Welcome Mister kennedy flyer that appeared In dallas on the day of the.

Assassination two days before the attempt On, Walker surrey observed a new model dark brown or maroon four Door ford with two men standing. Near the men were described as having been in their, thirties around five to. Ten both were wearing nice shirts and. Suits they had been looking in the windows At walker's. Home he reported the incident To. Walker,

however the men were never located or. Identified during The garrison, investigation a man Named Jules Rico kimball was interviewed due to his alleged connections to Fairy shaw and mercenaries surrounding the Anti castro activities In New. Orleans kimball was also a member of The Ku Klux klan and every other right wing organization which THE cia AND fbi sought to. Penetrate kimball had Told garrison that he was a fink

for THE. Feds garrison believed That kimball was a reliable witness and had stated most of What kimball had told. Him it checked. Out like every other, Witness kimball's testimony is. Imperfect he had, been, however in a position to get to know many of the major players involved in the. Assassination his specific knowledge of these individuals and their relationships with each other make it evident that he was intimately

connected to. Them this makes him as good of a witness as any to offer insight into the mindset of these. Men When garrison asked him at The walker shooting In oswald's potential, involvement this is what was. Said what do you think At General? WALKER i, mean you, say you Know General. Walker do you think it's true he might have been? Involved first of, all you know That oswald was said to have taken the shot At General. WALKER

i don't believe. IT i Think howard took the. Shot, oh you Think howard took a. Shot certainly he was In dallas with all those other. CRUMBS i don't Believe oswald did. IT i don't. Care you, SEE i don't want to go around trying to prove. Anything i'm just trying to tell you who did what and. Why, Well oswald supposedly had someone with. Him there were perhaps two people involved in, it Like Billy seymour And, howard who was always hauling his Big mexican carcass around trying to

pull some kind of. Caper Lawrence howard was a dark Skinned Mexican american and he was born to An irish father and A mexican mother On january, seventeenth nineteen thirty, five In Los. Angeles he had served in the military and became heavily involved with the Anti castro activities after The. Revolution howard was a large, man coming in five foot eleven inches tall and weighing over over the years between

two hundred and three hundred. Pounds pictures of him during the early day of the Anti castro movement in sixty one show a much more lean. Specimen, however by the time of the assassination he had gained an excessive amount of. Weight this accounts for the different weight descriptions of him as recalled by witnesses between the early nineteen sixties And

november twenty, second nineteen sixty. Three one characteristic Of howard that should stand out the most is that he is often described as having a pockmarked face or having bumps on his. Face he had rough skin and moles on both. Cheeks this will become extremely relevant as we have had numerous documented sightings Of oswald accompanied by a man described as a husky latino with a pockmarked. Face another important descriptor mentioned in The garrison files is that he has

a pronounced scar over his left. Eye kimball believed the shooting At walker's house was done By howard And, seymour AND i have no choice but to Concur the main implication here is That oswald was not. Involved coleman had a good enough view of the two men present to rule Out oswald as a. Suspect even after viewing photographs Of, oswald he refused to identify him as one of the

men on scene that. Night add to that the fact That oswald do, drive and we can say with certainty that he was not one of the men described By. Coleman this was yet another staged event stage for the, world designed to Incriminate oswald as a violent. Radical it didn't matter that the only witness to the, Aftermath Kirk, coleman couldn't Place oswald at the. Scene once they linked the rifle To oswald and the bullet covered From walker's house to the, rifle it was case closed On oswald's.

Guilt coleman had identified a black and white fifty Eight chevy driven by a man around six foot tall and two hundred, pounds but no further. Description Max klanch described a very similar fifty Seven chevy with A cuban or dark complexed driver circling the. Block do you really think these guys know the difference between a fifty seven and a fifty Eight. CHEVY i think it's fairly obvious that

both men were describing the same. Car the description of a six foot, tall two hundred pound man who was dark complex and possibly A cuban supports the idea That howard was in fact driving and this one of the men involved in The walker. Shooting William seymour was a small framed. Man he stood between five foot six and five foot eight inches tall and weighed one hundred and fifty to one hundred and sixty five, pounds depending on who you. Ask he had light brown hair and receiving

hairlines similar To. Oswald's he was born In, tucson but lived much of his life In, Phoenix, arizona which will become extremely important later. On he's often said to have sharp, features including his. Chin he was also described By Lawrence howard as closely Resembling Lee Harvey. Oswald it must have been his resemblance to the main character in the assassination story that led to his recruitment for the setup Of.

Oswald seymour had undoubtedly been one of the two Primary oswald impostors whose actions created the dissident persona we have all become familiar. With besides being a suspect or accomplice in the stage shooting At walker's, house there are numerous other incidents in the months leading up to the assassination in Which William seymour was being mistaken For. Oswald one of the more important events in the assassination story alleged to have Involved oswald was the meeting At Sylvia odios

on twenty, seventh nineteen sixty. Three one thing to note is That oswald allegedly crossed the border Into mexico On september the twenty. Sixth september the twenty sixth is also the date That oswald closed out HIS po box and left a forwarding address indicating he was actually still In New. Orleans Sylvia odio was the daughter of two prominent Anti castro activists who had been jailed In cuba in nineteen sixty.

Three she claimed she had Met Lee Harvey oswald in Late september with Two cubans who had shown up at her. Home odio told THE fbi the purpose of their visit was to ask if she would write letters to solicit funds from Various dallas businesses to support The Junta revolutionaria OR jur for, SHORT A JUI, jor was Another cuban revolutionary, group much like The friends Of Democratic, cuba which was

based out Of New. Orleans odio initially stated that she could not remember all of the, names but she believed that one of The cubans was Named leopaldo and that the man she was confident Was Lee Harvey oswald was identified As Leon. Oswald she later told THE. Fbi the third man went by the Name. Angelo note the Alias Leon oswald was the name used By Carrie thornley In New orleans when he Met Perry. RUSSO a day after their, Visit odio told THE fbi That leopaldo called her and

asked her what she thought Of. Ozwald she told him that she didn't have much of an opinion of. Him leopuldo told her they were not going to work with, him as he was. Logo the controversy over this incident involves the identity of these men and the timing of their meeting With. Odeo oswald was In Mexico, city according to the official, story which puts the narrative in a precocious. Position THE fbi can't Put oswald At Sylvia odio's, apartment

but it also can't Admit oswald was being. Impersonated the initial, suspect a suspicion By, garrison was that this trio was none other Than Howard hall And. Seymour we know That Howard hall And seymour were In dallas By Lawrence, hall By Lawrence howard's own admission honor About september, seventeenth nineteen sixty, Three Lauren hall And Celios Albas that's Just An alias by the way Departed Los, angeles Driving hall's nineteen fifty

Six oldsmobile and pulling a luggage. Carrier hall planned to stop In dallas to pick up additional, supplies, funds and contact and unknown man regarding a. Boat they arrived In dallas on About september, twentieth nineteen sixty. Three howard said they remained In dallas for about ten, days during Which hall was busy making contacts to obtain additional. Supplies how can we say with certainty that our trio of suspects were actually the men who had met With odeo Because

Lauren hall told us. So On september, sixteenth nineteen sixty, Four Lauren hall had met WITH, fbi and when, asked he confirmed that, He, howard And seymour did in fact Visit odio's. Apartment AN fbi memo on the, incident Dated september twenty, sixth nineteen sixty, four Title Lee Harvey Oswald

Internal security R, cuba reads as follows. Quote the following investigation is predicated on information received On september, sixteenth nineteen sixty, four From Lauren hall Of, Kernville, california that he had met with a woman named Missus odio In, Dallas texas In september of nineteen sixty. Three he said he was accompanied at the time By Laurence, howard A Mexican american

From Los, Angeles, california And William seymour From. ARIZONA A september twenty, fifth nineteen sixty four report from S. A HARRY. H whidby provides more detail elicited From hall Quote Lauren Eugene, Hall advised, nine sixteen sixty. Four In september nineteen sixty, three he was At, Dallas texas in company Of Lawrence howard And William seymour at solicit aid in an Anti castro.

Movement hall contacted Many cubans In dallas. Area hall recalled meeting A cuban, woman Missus, odio who lived In APARTMENT a located On Magellan circle and the same apartment building where A cuban friend Named Keki ferrer was then. Residing hall denies That Lee Harvey oswald was with him during his visit to Missus odio's. Apartment, hall, however recanted this. Statement On september, twentieth nineteen sixty, four he was reinterviewed

by THE. Fbi he now claimed that he was actually In dallas With howard And seymour on two separate, occasions but not with both. Together hall stated that he'd be an error in previously stating that the incident referred to By Sylvia odio had probably involved a contact by, Himself William seymour And Lawrence. Howard after reflection regarding trips made by him To dallas In, miami he now recalls that he was accompanied By William seymour and by A Lawrence

howard In dallas on separate trips to that. City the report goes on the state, Quote hall said, that having eliminated the confusion of his associates of this Of september And october visits of his, recollection he now does remember and does not remember any incident where he and the company of two other individuals made contact as such described By. Odio,

sorry but the cat is already out of the. Bag any subsequent attempts to roll back his statements were nothing more than cover up for the obvious mistake of admitting it in the first. Place at the time of the, Interview hall obviously didn't understand implications of his. Confession odio was interviewed On october, first nineteen sixty, four and shown a number of pictures Of, Hall, howard And, seymour she told THE fbi that she could not positively identify any

of them as the man who visited. Her William symour And Lawrence howard denied their involvement in the incident right from the. Start seymour claimed he was working In miami at the. Time he claimed that he didn't make a trip To dallas until Mid, october despite the fact That Ken, Schusler seymour's boss At Beach Welding supplies In, miami covered for.

Him seymour was most certainly In. Dallas according To, Schusler seymour worked for him daily until he departed the following, month allegedly For, arizona where his mother, lived in Mid. October the thing you have to remember is that these guys work as contract agents for THE. Cia any and all jobs that they may have on their official documentation were nothing more than front, jobs meaning meant to funnel

money and provide. Alibis Beach welding was no. Exception despite the lies and obfuscation surrounding this, incident it is blatantly obvious that the men who met With odio were in fact Hul howard And. Seymour the audio incident is simply one of many Where oswald was identified as having been present when the subject in question was most Certainly William. Seymour the significance of this incident is that it demonstrates a pattern of people Misidentifying seymour As. Oswald another such

incident involving this trio occurred at The Carousel. Club many believe That oswald was in fact an associate Of Jack, ruby BUT i have yet to uncover any evidence to support that. Theory WHEN i dug into each of the Alleged oswald's sightings Involving Jack, ruby again none of them held. Up WHAT i found, was at least in as far as The Carousel club incident On november, tenth nineteen sixty, three is that the band misidentified As oswald was most

Certainly William. SEYMOUR a man by the name Of harvey Lewill wade Of, Chattanooga, tennessee had gone To dallas Between november tenth and fourteenth on. Business on the evening Of November november, tenth he had visited The Carousel. Club while at The carousel, club he observed who he believed to have Been Lee Harvey, oswald in the company of two other. MEN a report on the incident BY Fbisa GEORGE. C welborne states the following. Quote the person Believed oswald was

accompanied by two unknown. Men the number one man is described as a white male early, twenties five foot eight inches, tall one hundred and forty, pounds, long black, hair very pale, complexion and slender. Build he had no unusual characteristics, anymore a dark colored. Suit he Resembled oswald in. Appearance the number two man is described as a white male thirty to thirty two years, old two hundred, pounds five foot ten inches, tall stocky, build long black, hair dark, complexion oval,

Face mexican Or spanish. Appearance he had numerous bump on his face and was believed to have a one inch scar in the eyebrow of his left. Eye the customer on stage with the stripper was described as five foot ten in just, tall thirty five years, old one hundred and eighty, pounds flat, top dark, hair, dressed not, recalled and was at the table with one girl and three

or four. Men, now this description By wade is a near exact match To, Howard hall And, seymour with one exception being the description Of oswald's hair as being long and black in nineteen sixty, three long was a subjective term many back then believed hair longer than an inch was considered. Long as far as the man's hair being described as, Black wade was in a dimly lit, nightclub and so is likely the man's hair appeared darker than

it actually. Was the description that really gives it away is the one referring To Lawrence, howard a stocky Man mexican in appearance with numerous bumps on his face and a scar over his left. Eyebrow that is Unquestionably Lawrence howard if that man Was Lawrence, howard and the circumstances and common sense will tell us that the other two men Were Lauren hall and the man who could pass For,

Oswald William. Seymour this report goes on to state that these three men participated in a quote memory skit With bill De, maris who was Actually bill DeMar and that's actually an, alias the entertainer on stage who was known to have performed acts of hypnosis for the. Crowd does the person we have come to know Is Lee Harvey oswald have the type of personality that would engage in a memory. Skit, no not at. All oswald was a, loner and he's never reported to have any unknown associates In,

dallas especially ones that Resemble hall And. HOWARD i think it's plainly obvious the men observed By wade at The Carousel club were in fact our trio of, Mercenaries, Hal howard And. Seymour wade was shown several, photographs including one Of Larry, crawford the man who claimed to Be, oswald that The Texas Employment. Commission it is unknown which men were in the photographs shown To, wade but he had refused to identify any of them as the men he

saw at The Carousel. Club we already know that the man Resembling oswald was Not. Oswald the Real oswald was allegedly at The pain residence In Fort worth that, evening although we can't trust the testimony of anyone living at The pain. Residence so Was oswald really in Fort worth that? Night, honestly it doesn't even matter where he, was because in his far as this incident, goes the preponderance of evidence

tells us it Was William. Seymour wade was later interviewed By garrison Investigator Bill boxley On october twenty, fifth nineteen sixty. Seven wade confirmed that his previous statements and his testimony as describing the warrant commission were. Accurate wade had obviously become familiar with the story Surrounding oswald and made the

statement To, boxley of Course oswald was not. There boxley's report Continues wade responded, exuberantly, however when informed That oswald undoubtedly had a double In dallas as well as other places with, him and seemed relieved that he had not made the mistaken identification Of oswald which THE fbi questioner had indicated he must. Have boxley displayed a photograph Of Laurence howard To. Wade wade was unable to make the identification and Stated howard appeared to have too stern an

expression on his. Face the problem with this identification is that when you come to identify the cast of characters the inner circle of the, assassination there simply isn't another husky Looking mexican with numerous bumps on his face and a scar over his left eye anywhere to be Found no other known person in any of the assassination literature comes close to matching this. Description the specifics of this description could only indicate one. Man Lawrence Howard garrison knew

this as. Well he had been looking for A husky Pockmark lattin since nineteen sixty, one when a man matching the description accompanied Another oswald look alike to The Boltenford dealership In New orleans On january, twentieth nineteen sixty, one a time When oswald is known to have been in The Soviet. Union OSCAR. W, dslatt a sales manager at Bolton ford In New, orleans was approached by two men who are interested in perching several vehicles on behalf of

The friends Of Democratic. Cuba according to THE, fbi The slat could not provide a specific description of either. Man, however that is not what he told he and his, Boss Fred sewell Told garrison's. Investigators one of the men was described as being, heavy Pockmarked latin who was all of, complexion with an athletic build and a scar over his left.

Eye in nineteen sixty, One Lawrence howard was training With Jerry hemming down in The Florida keys pictures of him at the time show a much more Lean howard before he put on excessive. Weight the other man with him was described as Resembling Lee Harvey oswald and had actually identified himself to As Lee. Oswald To, dslat the Names oswald And Joseph moore were written on the truck purchase

price estimate sheet that provided to. Them the estimate document substantiating To slats And sewell's account of the incident is present in both THE fbi And garrison. Files When dslat was shown a photograph Of Lee Harvey, oswald he said that he had never seen the man displayed to him and that he could not say that he was the man who accompanied The latin man he believed to Be

Joseph moore on that. Date dslatt remember the incident because of the name of the organization the men, Provided friends Of Democratic, cuba which he thought was rather. Unusual the one thing About daslat that stands out as rather questionable is that when he was subpoenaed By garrison to speak before a grand jury in the case of Clay, shaw his lawyer of choice was G Ray, gill the notorious mob attorney whose main client was none other Than Carlos.

Marcello another interesting coincidence is that the slat had told a friend of his about the incident in nineteen sixty, one identified As Charles, pearson manager of The Graham Paper. Company pearson then related the story To Mary, cusco a clerk who worked for him At. Graham cusco then told another well known character in the assassination, Story Carlos, Brenier, brenier of, course being the Anti Castro cuban who had been involved in the scuffle With oswald in front of

The International trademark On august, ninth nineteen sixty. Three brenier reported this incident to Ac John rice of The Secret service On december, ninth nineteen sixty. Three once again we have characters resurfacing and involving themselves in even secondary aspects of the assassination. Story when all factors are taking in, consideration this incident has the feeling of being another staged.

Event The friends Of Democratic cuba had been formed by a man Named William dalzell along With Guy, banister and was run out Of Guy bannister's office at five point forty Four Camp. Street they had no known operating. Budget the organization only existed on paper for just over a month and had no documented. Activities providing their name for the purchase of several trucks does only one. Thing it lights a path that leads to five point forty Four

Camp street and all the shady activities conducted. There according to Researcher William, davey The friends Of Democratic cuba was strictly a dummy. Front in, fact an informant For New ORLEANS Da Jim garrison revealed that the group was an undercover operation in conjunction with THE cia AND, fbi which involved the shipment and transportation of individuals and supplies in

and out Of. Cuba as a side, note the same informant revealed That garrison's office that THE fbi liaison was none other Than Regis, Kennedy hoover's point man with the Anti castro community In New. Orleans why this incident occurred

as anyone's. Guess why the name Of oswald was used When oswald was provably out of the country is still a. MYSTERY i chucked this off to extremely poor planning in as far as an attempt to Paint oswald as a. Dissident If oswald was allegedly A. Communist why would he be paling around with the most rabid anti communists in the. Country who were the men that visited deslat that? Day the debate over this still. Rages the description of This latin man includes him having a pockmark face and a

scar over his left. Eye could this once again Be Lawrence. Howard we know very little about the specific whereabouts Of howard and his activities during this time period in sixty. One we know that he was working With Jerry hemming in The Florida keys in sixty. One this does not preclude, him, however from Traveling New orleans during this. Time the same

goes For William. Seymour seymour trained the Anti Castro cubans At No Name key in nineteen sixty, one but we also know that at some point he had lived at or at least stayed In New. Orleans seymour is said to have been The New orleans representative for The Double Check, corporation A cia front based out Of. Miami another known character in the assassination, Story Gordon, novell is also associated

With Double. Check that would infer an association Between novelle And, seymour and we Know novelle was a direct associate Of David. Ferry no references allude to the time When seymour was associated with The New orleans branch of this. Company the lack of supporting information on the whereabouts Of howard And seymour in early sixty one make place in them At, Bolton florida. Challenge, however IF i were a betting, MAN

i know Where i'd place my. Money David ferry is also known to have associated with A latin man of similar description To Lawrence. HOWARD a memo In garrison's lead files from nineteen sixty seven states the following. Quote Attorney Ray gill recalls seeing a heavy Set cuban come up to Visit ferry from time to. Time gil describes him as very rough looking and had. Pockmarked this is essentially the same description which we've had encountered from other, persons

Including Harvey. Wade we should really be moving ahead faster on getting a precise identification on this heavy Set latin character who has shown up all over the place from early sixty one all the way through sixty three at The Carousel club In. Dallas So garrison believed that this pockmarked individual was in fact the same man that was seen everywhere From New orleans To dallas over a span

of two. Years as there are no smoking guns in the, investigation we have to make do with what we have to. Me the preponderance of evidence lays the identification of this man right at the feet Of Lawrence. Howard, however as everyone involved in the assassination appears to have some kind of some kind of body, double there is always a chance that the sightings of the heavy, set Pockmark latin

are actually of more than one. Man Harvey wade described the man as having been in his, thirties whereas The Slatin sewel described the man as being in his. Forties wade said the heavy, set dark complexed man at The Carousel club was five to, ten whereas The Slatin sewell stated the man was five foot. Eight is this over scrutinizing a minor difference in, description or does it actually provide a significant clue indicating that there were in fact

two different. Men witness statements that include these descriptions have to be looked at in a broader context and viewed along with the totality of circumstances in order to make any determination as to their. Accuracy the, circumstances, timing and behavior of the three men at The Carousel club make it clear to me at the men seen By wade

Were Hal howard And. Seymour if the man in Bolton ford was Not, howard it means that in almost sixty years Of kennedy, research there is another man closely associated To David ferry And Guy banister that Matches Lawrence howard's basic, description yet has never been named or. IDENTIFIED i find the likelihood of this to be minimal at, best but there is always that. Possibility another incident Involving oswald and a dark Complected latin occurred at The Havana bar In

New orleans In september of nineteen sixty. Three THE hsca report one eight zero one oh one two eight one zero zero's. Two the McKinney Breathing materials Bartender Everisto rodriguez was deposed On july twenty, first nineteen sixty, four for The Warren. Commission he described a patron of the bar as a man who Resembled, oswald who was accompanied by a stocky Built latin man who Spoke. Spanish he described this man as having resembled A mexican or that he

was from Another latin. Country the man was described in his late, twenties early and was overly. Hairy he said this man ordered tequila While oswald ordered a. Lemonade he told The Warren Commission Attorney WESLEY. J leebler that since he didn't have, lemonade he asked to ask his boss or Asked pana how to make. One it was at this time That pana also described the man That rodriguez

was convinced Was. Oswald rodriguez went on to state that he later saw the man he believed Was oswald appearing quite drunk with his arm around The latin quote getting. Sick rodriguez also Described oswald as wearing a clip on bow tie that was hanging off his. Collar does this sound like the loner Dissident Lee Harvey Oswald we all,

know definitely. Not the timing of this incident In september nineteen sixty three corresponds with the travels Of howard And seymour as there made their way back and forth Between Los, Angeles, dallas And New orleans And. Miami, again we have an incident involving a Husky latin man possibly A mexican scene with a man described As oswald or at minimum Resembling.

Oswald this pair has been seen all over the place together and still the only members of the cast of characters that match these, descriptions despite the variations in witness, testimony Are Lawrence howard And William. Seymour long before the incident at The Havana, bar a man Named Jerry buchanan alleged that In october of nineteen sixty, two there had been a scuffle involving members of The fairplay For Cuba

committee In. Miami one of the members Of fairplay For Cuba committee who had allegedly been observed during the scuffle Was Lee Harvey. Oswald Jerry buchanan's, Brother Jim, buchanan was a writer for The Pampino Beach Florida Sun sentinel newspaper at the. Time i'm in the alleged incident INVOLVING. Fpcc Jerry buchanan was a member of The International Anti Communist brigade In miami under the direction of a man Named

Frank fiorini Aka Frank. Sturgis sturgis one of The watergate burglars had a long history of service to organizations like THE, Cia Army intelligence and even The. Masad you have to take, everything the guy says to investigators with more than a grain of. Salt sturgis is a liar through and. Through, however even the liars can provide good information from time to,

time usually. Inadvertently sturgis told investigators That Jerry buchanan was the head of propaganda for The International Anti Communist brigade and that they had a falling out over the kinds of propaganda they had been. Publishing he was implying that this tale Of oswald In miami was nothing more than

that propaganda. Quote it was pointed out to Mister fiorini, that according To Jerry, Buchanan Leeharvey oswald was one of THE fpcc who engaged in a fight In Bayfront, park and further That oswald was again In miami as Of march of, six distributing Pro castro. Literature according to O'Connor's report, quote Mister buchanan said that it was his Understanding oswald had engaged in distributing literature In miami across the street From Freedom, tower where The Cuban Refugee center is located In.

Miami it was pointed out to Mister buchanan that he had said that he had told Mister John martino Of Miami, Beach, florida that his Brother Jerry buchanan had engaged in a fight With Lee Harvey oswald At, miami and That martino could use that information in lecture engagements inasmuch as it was. True Mister buchanan was advised, that according to Mister, martino the fight Between Jerry buchanan And oswald occurred When oswald attempted to board a boat being used By Jerry buchanan

And cuban exiles in an anti castro. Operation it was also pointed out to Mister buchanan That Nathaniel whale Of Delray, Beach, florida had advised he That buchanan had informed him That Jerry buchanan had a fight With oswald In miami About january of sixty, three When oswald was distributing pro castro. Literature so what we have is a series of events In, miami whereas it was alleged That oswald had been involved with Fair play For cuba activities Between october of nineteen

sixty two And march of nineteen sixty. Three this is long before the official story Places oswald among their. Ranks In may of nineteen sixty, three THE fbi chalked this off as, fabrication BUT i can't help think there may be more to it than. THAT i believe we can say with confidence that if these events did, Occur Lee Harvey oswald was not the man. Involved if they did, occur the times of the alleged incidents would align with the times That William seymour was known to have been

residing in The miami. Area was there an active operation happening meant to Establish Lee Harvey oswald as A communist In miami at the same time he was living In, Dallas or were these just the ramblings of an alleged anti communist, propagandist As fiorini told THE. Fbi either, way it demonstrates the Name Lee Harvey oswald was being circulated in the area by men, who one way or, another were connected to the Anti castro movement and the events

Of november twenty. Second WHEN i began to realize that so many of the alleged sightings Of oswald were not Actually, oswald and That William seymour was responsible for a large number of these. SIGHTINGS i had to go back and reevaluate the commonly Known oswald incidents that we all take for. Granted one of the more well known incidents that neither lone assassin or conspiracy nuts have disputed Involves oswald's actions

at the Sports Rifle range In. Dallas the official story says That oswald went to the rifle range where he drew attention to himself when he shot at another person's. Target the other person was range patron and assassination Witness Garland. Slack slack happened to be a witness To oswald shooting at the rifle range and a witness to the assassination, itself as he was standing On Houston street When John

kennedy was. Killed the incident Involving Garland slack And oswald shooting at the wrong target is only a portion of this incident that has remained in the public. Consciousness the real story of the sports drome is far more. Nuanced the vast majority of information we can gather from this, incident or rather, incidents as you shall soon, see does more to disprove the notion That oswald ever visited the

rifle range than confirm. It researching the witness testimony related to the Sports, DROME i realized that many of the Alleged oswald's sightings that the range were on different dates and at different. Times this meant that there was no single incident with numerous. Witnesses there were numerous. Incidents going through the statements of those witnesses forced me to remember

how fallible witness testimony actually. Is oswald was described as everything from five to six to five foot, eleven with blonde, hair black, hair and everything in. Between despite the variations and descriptions provided to law, enforcement the one thing every witness could agree on is that it Was Leharvy oswald they saw at the Sports. Drone Malcolm price was a friend Of virginia And Floyd, davis the owners of the Sports, drome and had been kind of hanging around who often

helped The davis's out with. Customers price was not officially an, employee but had nonetheless worked at the range since it had opened In september of nineteen sixty. Three according To price's testimony to The Warrant, Commission oswald first made an appearance at the range On, Saturday september twenty, eighth nineteen sixty. Three this is two days After oswald had allegedly crossed the border Into mexico and a day after the incident

At Sylvia odio's. Apartment, quote Mister, Leebler commission has information to the effect that sometime During november sixty three you saw a gentleman at The Refra range whom you subsequently came to believe Was Lee Harvey. Oswald is that? Correct that's. Right the first TIME i saw this person was In, september the last week of the last day Of, september and that was the afternoon they had opened the range on the Last saturday Of. September, yes that would Be

september twenty. Eighth, Yes so it would appear the Mister leebler was attempting to steer the witness into A november time frame for The oswald siding the later sightings of him were in fact In. November, However price Putting oswald that the range On september twenty eighth does not jive with official story claims That oswald was In Mexico. City price Tells leebler That oswald came to the range at about dusk on the twenty, eighth just before it. Closed

he came, alone driving in nineteen forty or forty. One he comments that he had since heard That oswald doesn't, drive but assured The commission That oswald had certainly driven himself there that. Night he Tells leebler That oswald asked him if he could cite his, rifle as he had just had a scope mounted on. It oswald set up a target at one hundred, yards And price fired the

rifle a dozen or more times while setting the. Scope he then handed the rifle back To, oswald who only fired three shots before collecting the casings and calling it a. Day, hmm interesting. Huh leebler proceeds to Ask price about the rifle and when and whether or not he had seen the rifle on more than one. Occasion price tells him that he did see it, again As oswald had returned to the range two more times while he was present

the dais he gave Her october twelfth and. Thirteenth, however information provided By Garland slack indicates that one or both of these dates may actually have been In. November slack Observed oswald on the Range november, ninth, tenth and. Seventeenth Both slack And price recall Seeing oswald on the day of The Quote turkey, shoot which was In. November this indicates that one of The october dates provided By price is. Wrong price goes on to explain that he And oswald

talked about the scope of the. Rifle oswald had told him that it was the clearest scope he'd ever, seen and that he'd only paid eighteen dollars for. It he then clarified That oswald indicated the eighteen dollars was just for the, scope not for the. Rifle oswald told him that he had to scope mounted on by a gunsmith In Cedar hill and that it was mounted on a Red field. Mount when asked about the specifics of the, rifle the conversation went like, this Mister, liebler did you

see the rifle closely that? Day you must have handled it in looking through the. Scope, oh, YES i handled. It it was A mauser type. Rifle what do you mean by? THAT i don't know anything about. Rifles, well it's strictly a military rifle and it's patterned after The German. Mauser a bolt, action a bolt action and the general outline it had about, it possibly a six shot clip set just ahead of the, trigger AND i understand it was a six point Five, italian but at that TIME

i didn't. NO i thought it was A mauser because as a friend of mine In Graham prairie that has An Argentine mauser that was a seven point, six and it looked very. Familiar they looked a whole lot. Alike, so when describing the, Gun price Tells leebler that he believes it was A mauser style, rifle similar to the one owned by a. Friend the conversation, CONTINUES i saw the serial, number and the gun wasn't blued at the.

Time it had a bright finish on the. Barrel it looked like it had been placed in a lathe and turned down as far as, well in an attempt to sportalize the. Gun it had been worked on in some manner in an attempt to sportalize. IT i thought it had how far did the barrel protrude from the, Stock, like how far did it stick past the end of the, stock possibly six or eight inches at. Most had the

stock been cut back in this attempt to sportarize the? Rifle, well not THAT i could tell it was similar To German, mauser and they have you, know they've got the full length almost full length stock with a wooden piece on the top of. Them and the wooden piece on top was still on this, rifle which you did. See, NO i don't believe it. Was it had been taken. Off, yes it had been taken off as part of the

attempt to sportize the. Rifle, yes so here it is very clear the rifle observed it handled By, price was

Not Oswald's carcano six point five. Millimeter the difference described By price indicates that the upper portion of the wooden stock which covers the top of the barrel had been removed and the barrel itself had been worked on in a. Lathe the barrel was also described By price as having been six to eight inches from the tip to the beginning of the, stock as compared to three inches on a. Carcano the weapon That price is describing is An Argentine

Mauser model eighteen ninety one sportalized. Edition there is little similarity to The carcano other than the bolt action. Mechanism leebler Presses price to identify the photos of the carcano presented to him as the same weapon he handled When oswald was at the. Range despite his, Efforts price does not, capitulate but rather says the rifle and the photos look similar to the rifle he, saw except for the sling,

mounts and that the stock and barrel configuration was. Different leebler is obviously trying to force a square pag into a round. Hole leebler asks about the scope on the rifle and whether or Not price can identify the scope in the photos as the same one he saw in. Person the scope On Oswald's carkano was branded With Ordnance optics In, Hollywood, california zero one Zero. Japan, price, however insisted that the scope the rifle had was A tuskasca

brand also manufactured In. Japan, QUOTE i might not be right about the brand, name BUT i believe it was A tuscasa SINCE i examined. It it was A japanese, scope but they made several brands of those. Things it could be any one of, them BUT i, believe AS i remember, it was A. Tuskaska leebler eventually Shows price a series of, photographs presumably Of Lee Harvey. Oswald one of the photos must have been Of oswald's booking, photo

As price commented on the mark On oswald's. Forehead when asked point blank if the man in the series of photographs was the man he had dealt with the shooting, Range price's answer didn't do much to settle the. Question as we would, HOPE i will hand you some. Pictures this is a. QUOTE i will hand you some pictures and see if you can recognize any of the people in them as the man you saw at the rifle. Range these have been Previously Mark commission exhibit number four

and four five three through four five. Six, yes this is the only one that has any. SIMILARITY i can. Recall you're referring to number forty. Five does that look like? Him, well these all seem like a photograph of the same, Man but this is the only one that has any resemblance AS i can. Remember, so out of the four or five photographs shown To, price only one of them actually resembled the man who spoke with at the rifle. Range not exactly the solid ENDORSEMENT i would have liked

to have put an end to any. Debate price's, testimony when looked at in a broad, perspective tells us that the man he met with was Not, oswald and that the rifle and scope the man brought to the range was not the six point five Milimeters. Krkano the man drove himself to the range in a nineteen forty Four AND i think it's been absolutely clear this Fared oswald didn't drive the, rifle and That leebler tried so hard to link to the sports drone, incidents That krkano was

actually An argentine. Mauser none Of price's testimony Puts oswald at the, range nor does it place the carcano In oswald's. Hands his testimony only reinforced the, man only re enforced the idea that there was a man In dallas who was often mistaken For. Oswald the next witness to provide meaningful information About oswald's appearance at the Sports drone Was Garland. Slack slack had been a long time friend of the,

Owner Floyd, davison was a regular customer at the. Range he distinctly recalled That oswald had been at the range On november nineteenth and seventeenth of nineteen sixty. Three the tenth was also the night That Harvey wade Observed oswald at the carousel. Club it was the seventeenth that he recalled the incident Of oswald firing at his. Target slack was in the adjacent lane and saw that before he even had a chance to, shoot his target had already been.

Hit he then Saw oswald firing in a rapid, pattern three or four, shots then take, aim then three or four more. Shots according To, slack there were about seven or eight boys firing on the range that, day and he made a broad announcement to all of them to keep their rifles pointed at their own. Targets he never Confronted oswald directly about. It slack goes on to make

some interesting statements about the scope Of oswald's. Rifle we've already covered the testimony Of Malcolm, price who stated that he set the scope On oswald's rifle on the first date the range was, Opened september twenty. Eighth, slack, however testified in deposition that he had known the boy who had set the, scope and that it was done On wednesday between the tenth and seventeenth Of. November he couldn't remember the boy's, name but he surely wasn't referring To Malcolm.

Price the forty something semi retired. Man what is to be made of this? Discrepancy could the person mistaken For oswald have had two rifles scoped for him at the sports? Drone leebler Asked slack about the rifle's. Appearance did you have a chance to see the rifle at? HAND i absolutely saw the. Rifle what kind of rifle was? It it was An italian type, Rifle but it never showed

up in the newspapers a picture of that. Rifle in other, words if the first picture that came out of the officer holding the rifle that was on the floor of the book, depository if that was the, GUN i had never seen that gun. Before AND i know rifles AND i know. Scopes so now we hear we. Have now

we're zero for. Two in an identification of the rifle by range, Witnesses slack Tells leebler he wouldn't shoot a toad frog with one of them because he knew they were just jump slacklyn indicates That oswald was not there. Alone he Tells leebler that When oswald, arrived someone had Handed oswald his rifle over the, fence that he did

not walk it through the main. Entrance he Tells leebeler about another boy he believed was With oswald that was well over six foot, tall very heavy, set had enormous. Feet he said this man had a full. Beard this is where the dissecting of events at the sports drone becomes. Fuzzy the six foot tall man Who slack believed was was With oswald on that occasion is a matter of much. Confusion the man was identified As Michael Bentley, murph a

resident Of. DALLAS i Located murph's nineteen fifty five high school yearbook and photo at archive dot, org So murph was definitely. Real it was not an. Alias THE fbi located him after his license plate was traced to a red and White chevy And palla registered to. Him he told THE fbi he had gone to the range alone and then he didn't really speak to anyone else while he was. There he also did not know or See Leeharvey oswald while he was. There his story is, plausible

and his name appears nowhere else in the fascination. RECORD i tend to believe. Him this is where the identification of the, tall heavy set man believed By slack gets. INTERESTING murfh truly looks as though he was just in the wrong place at the wrong. Time he fired from lane eight While oswald was on lane. Seven On november. Seventeenth slack may have seen this and believed they were. Together murf was traced by the license plate on his redd and White, impala which he had left the range

in that. Day even Though slack believed these men were, together he later described later described That oswald had left with a big man in an older model colored an older dark Colored. Sedan the Person oswald allegedly left with could not have Been murf because m left in a red and White. Impala the implication here is That oswald was there with another, person it was just not the Person slack believed him to. Be slack has asked About oswald's,

description and Like Malcolm, price he has shown several. Photographs this is what was. Said is this the guy you? Saw does anyone in those pictures look like? Him those heavy eyebrows and that part in the. Hair but apparently he had more, hair maybe he got a haircut? Afterwards who had more? Hair the fellow the, picture the MAN i saw in this picture right, here the man you

saw had more, Hair, yes he sure. Did do you think any of these pictures are of the man you saw the rifle that, day the difference in position he was in everything that looked like. Him but he wasn't that sleepy. Eyed he was a cocky. Guy slack eventually identifies one of the photos to, him Shown Marcus piso

four or five three DASH. C he then talks about how this one photo is exactly how he looked in person when he saw him on television just before he was, shot but that none of the other photographs resemble this. Man slack also said That oswald and his large companion had brought three rifles with them that. Day lucille remembers the boy handing the guns over the, fence and they were throwing the guns in the back of the old

model car and taking off like they. Did AND i recognized that because a gun a good, gun you're not supposed to they just threw these old guns in that, car or they took two of. Them of, course one was wrapped in a, blanket a dirty looking old gray blanket that had a red. TRIM i remember the Sportalized italian gun was tied up and he handed it over the fence, nicely and he had a gray and gray and red maroon looked slick as, satin AND i remember

it as. Well what a gun? Case you see everything at a shooting, place some bring a rifle in a tot sack and for a gun. Case slack also tells investigators that the man who Drove oswald to the rifle range was Named. Fraser how he came to know this is never clarified in the. DOCUMENTS i do not believe that this coming to know this name was by chance. EITHER i do not believe That Buell, Fraser oswald's associated

The Book, depository ever drove anyone to the rifle. RANGE i do believe that his name was dropped as part of a scheme to Set fraser up as a second patsy as, needed if. NEEDED i will cover this in much more detail later. ON i only make mention of it to be clear THAT i do not believe for a second That fraser was the man who was With oswald at the rifle. Range as it, STANDS i have only one suspect who could have been mistaken For oswald and was accompanied by a large huh ky man with

a long hair and, Beard William. Seymour in my quest to find any corroboration For seymour having posed As oswald at The Sports. DROME i come across A february twenty, eighth nineteen seventy four article by a man Named Richard. Rasnikoff the, article titled From dallas To watergate covers the main players in The watergate affair and highlights the fact that many of the names involved In watergate seemed to

cross paths with many of the names In Kennedy. Assassination when it came to the Anti Castro cuban movement In, miami particularly involving the men working out Of No Name. Key the article Mentions William seymour as one of these. Men also At No Name key Was William, seymour who was later to Impersonate oswald In dallas at a rifle range called The Sports, drone a gun shop in a

new car. Agency at each of these places he was to give his name As Lee Harvey, oswald although in each instance it was manifestly impossible that he could have Been. Oswald what are we to make of? This who? Knows the article does nothing in as far as corroborating the,

information we could really hold it to no factual. Account the statement holds no evidentiary, value but that does not mean and holds no. Value reading this statement From rasnikov in his nineteen seventy four article reassured me in as far AS i was not, alone nor WAS i crazy for believing that it Was seymour making the rounds As oswald in all of the same. Places rasnikov mentions That seymour was to give the Name Lee oswald at a gun. Shop this brings us to the story of Dial writer

and The Irving Sports. Shop oswald allegedly had worked done on the rifle at a gun. Shop how complicated could this part of the story. Get little DID i know that this one small incident would turn out to be just as insane as everything ELSE i had come across thus. Far in, short dial writer and employee of The Irving Sports shop finds a work ticket for, drilling tapping and bore siding with the Name oswald on. It the ticket seemed to appear out of, nowhere found lodge between his

desk and the. Wall The saturday evening following the, assassination he testified before The Warrant commission that he could not Identify Lee Harvey Osie walds having been a customer in the. Store he also stated To Attorney Wesley leebler that even though he recognized the handwriting on the ticket as his, own he had no recollection of having drawn up that.

Ticket he was shown a picture of the rifle that was located in the book depository and asked if he had worked on said rifle and whether or not he had attached the scope to. It rider explained that he personally had never worked on An italian model such as the one in the, photos and then he cannot connect

the tag To oswald's. Rifle he confidently Told leebler that he did not believe anyone at The Irving Sports shop had worked on the rifle he was being shown photos of because of how the scope was mounted to the. Rifle he stated that when they drill holes in the rifle to attach them scope mount they typically use the same, mounts which require three holes be. Drilled when he saw photos of The carcano rifle in, custody he stated his shop never used the cheap mount that was attached to

rifle To oswald's. Rifle he said That oswald's rifle also had a mount, attached only utilized two bolts and that the mount using two holes would not have been done At Irving Sports. Shop to further confirm, This rider Tells leebler that he had been in contact with a female reporter from The Washington, press although we could not recall her. Name after their initial, conversation this reporter Contacted Kline's Sporting,

goods the store The karkano was allegedly purchased. From according To, writer this report informed him that the rifle ship From klins was pre drilled and came with the, mount meaning it just needed to be screwed. In that means that there was no need to bring the rifle in for. Drilling being That writer could not recall ever Seeing oswald in the store and he had never seen the or worked on The italian rifle in, question one has to

wonder why the work tag appeared in the first. Place the incident at The Irving Sports shop is ultimately a dead. End Did seymour drop off the rifles prior to The Sports drone rifle range for service In. Irving it's, possible but in the end it's. Irrelevant what we know is that the rifle appearing in the photos shown To writer allegedly the carcano was not worked on by anyone at the sports, shop and the tag with the Name oswald could not be connected to any person or any own.

Rifle writer had told investigators that the store had called all of The oswald's in the phone, book but were unable to connect any of them to the work. Order the overall circumstances of the incident tells me that this was going to be part of the false trail Connecting oswald to the. Rifle, however it seems to have failed in its purpose as this story and gets little attention

and is not often referenced in the official story. Narratives the third incident mentioned In Richard rasnikov's article that was attributed To William seymour Involved oswald's appearance at a car dealership In. Dallas EUGENE. M, wilson employee of the Downtown Lincoln Mercury Auto, dealership insisted to investigators That Lee Harvey oswald had test driven A Red Comet Caliente. No november,

second nineteen sixty. Three The Warren commission completely Disregarded wilson's account of this, incident based on the known facts incident that Indicate oswald didn't drive of, course The Warren commission had to disavow this incident because it would contradict the official story. Narrative they also couldn't admit That oswald was being, impersonated just like The Silvia odio, incident so instead of acknowledging that these events actually, happened it was easier for

them to claim witnesses involved must have been. MISTAKEN i wonder if there are any other cases in world in the world that have hundreds of mistaken, witnesses or if this is just unique to The kennedy. Assassination Salesman Albert bogard is the man who Accompanied oswald on his high speed test drive on the streets Of. Dallas bogard claims That oswald definitely knew how to, drive and that he reached speeds of up to eighty five miles per hour

on the. Highway bogart stated That oswald couldn't afford vehicles three hundred dollars down payment and instead told him that he would return in two to three weeks with the full cash car for the, value which was thirty five. Hundred could the man that buggered And wilson dealt with On november tewod have Been William. Seymour, absolutely it was definitely Not, oswald AS i am a stark believer That oswald we know did not. Drive what purpose could this

incident have. SERVED i think it's pretty obvious that the incident was meant to establish witnesses to the fact That oswald was supposed to have received some large payout around the time of the. Assassination this incident seems to have served its, purpose with the exception being That oswald was not a vehicular. Operator this is WHAT i believe was just sloppy work on behalf of the conspirators while laying

this false trail From oswald to the. Assassination before we move, on there was one last incident Connecting, Hall, howard And seymour to the assassination that must be. Addressed this involves the delivery of a package From New orleans To Lawrence howard at The executive in In dallas by a man whose name is peppered throughout the assassination, Literature Thomas. Beckham beckham is another low LEVEL cia contract agent, who by his own,

admission worked with THE. Cia worked with the organization from nineteen fifty nine util nineteen sixty. Three what he called the organization was actually a SMALL cia group of contractors organized by a man Named Fred Lee. Chrisman chrisman was most likely an actual employee of THE, cia not a contract, agent seeing as how his service went all the way back To World WAR. Ii in THE, oss he called the group of many recruited and handled the, organization even

though it was just his organization of. Recruits he has his Own wikipedia page which is which hilariously leaves out his connections To Clay shaw and other players in the assassination's. Story his page reads as follows. Quote in nineteen forty, Six chrismin claimed to have battled with non humans in caves during The Second World. War the following, year he attempted to convince too early flying saucer witnesses that lava

rocks were in fact debris dropped from a flying. Saucer in nineteen sixty, Eight chrisman was subpoenaed by A New orleans grand jury in the prosecution of a man for the assassination Of President John, kennedy a prosecution that would later be dramatized in the nineteen ninety One Oliver stone FILM. Jfk chrisman functioned like any good handler, does he stayed in the. Shadows he provided instruction in funds To beckham

and others prior to and after the. Assassination he Helped beckham evade authorities After kennedy was, killed and again Once garrison began his. Investigation chrisman was certainly a key figure in managing some of the personnel involved in the. Assassination, beckham like every other witness who worked with THE, cia is a. Liar it is hard to tell which statements

he made are, truthful, exaggerations or outright. False in his earliest testimony before the grand jury In shake in the Clay shaw, trial he stated that he had never Known Lee Harvey. Oswald when he testified before THE, hsca he claimed that he did Know oswald very well and that they had been good. Friends the truth is probably somewhere in the. Middle his relationship With oswald is largely irrelevant to.

Me whether or not he was friends With oswald plays no part in the aspect of his involvement in the assassination THAT i care. About WHAT i do care about is the package he delivered To Lawrence howard at The Executive inn In dallas a few weeks before the. Assassination when it comes to witness statements and judging their, VERACITY i look for, corroboration which is often a hard thing to come, by or a logical placement in the storyline

THAT i have been. Assembling beckham's testimony before THE hsca falls into the. LATTER i know with certainty That Lawrence howard was one of the gunmen on the sixth floor of the book. DEPOSITORY i will cover that evidence later. On knowing That howard was a, Shooter beckham's testimony indicating that he delivered a package to him prior to the, assassination fell completely in line with my overall thesis of the. Crime beckham was deposed by THE hsca In, Jackson, mississippi

On october, ninth nineteen seventy, seven BY. L. J. Delsa beckham was offered tentative immunity for his. Testimony he didn't tell them the whole story in order to implicate himself in anything over the, egregious but nonetheless he lied to them via. Omission beckham was certainly involved in the assassination planning and, execution as he was photographed In dallas On november twenty second at Love, field walking a few feet From kennedy's limo as it drove from the plane to the.

Street he never mentioned this to. Investigators he told the story that began with a meeting In, Algier's. Louisiana according To, beckham he attended a meeting With Sergeia Arcachia, smith G Ray, Gill Vincent, Marcello Charlie, Morello Roswell, thompson and a woman whose name Was anna Possibly. Burglass also president were several unnamed. Cubans beckham claimed that this, meeting discussions of the assassination

of the president were. Conducted he also attended meetings at The town And Country, motel, which based on his, Tone beckham was unaware that The town And country was owned By Carlos. Marcello after these meetings took, place he was instructed By David ferry to visit the office of G Ray. Gill upon, Arrival gill provided him with several photographs and, documents including sketches made of buildings and a, street presumably in the area Of Daly. Plaza he was also given

two hundred dollars for. Payment beckham Identified Roswell, Thompson Jack martin Clay, shaw Mister, marcello And David ferry as having been present at this meeting In gill's. Office were all of these men really? Present don't, know don't. Care gil was the connection To marcello and thus all of the other players in the, assassination so whether or not they were president this meeting is not overly. Relevant beckham was flown To, dallas where he then was told to meet

with a quote Mister. Howard Lawrence howard was the Only howard relevant in the assassination's, story so we can rule out it having been anyone. Else according To, beckham he got into a car With Lawrence howard and he handed him materials. Provided he stated That howard got, mad indicating that he expected a lot more than the few documents he was. Given is this can't be? All this can't be all it? Is howard inquired Of. Beckham beckham assured

him it. Was beckham described the photographs as being of buildings and. Cars he described With howard a few blocks Before howard pulled over, again double check the materials like? Hell howard, proclaimed that's all they gave, Me beckham. Replied beckham described the maps that were included as being hand drawn. Diagrams beckham stated that after meeting With, howard he returned To New orleans and Reported howard's concerns to Both gil And,

thompson who told him they would handle. It beckham's testimony then drifted to his relationship With chrisman and How chrisman helped him to move, around always one step ahead of investigators who were looking to interview him or serve him. Papers beckham's tale of meeting With HOWARD i find to be. Credible he had been hiding the truth of his involvement in the assassination for almost fifteen, years and having been offered, IMMUNITY i believe it was a burden he no longer

wished to. Carry all of the. Assassination debunkers who Think oswell acted alone like to say that someone would have talked if they had knowledge of the. Assassination Thomas beckham is a perfect example of how even when people do, talk no one seems to listen or believe. Them and, so ladies and, gentlemen that's gonna wrap it up for this episode Of Corey Hughes's Bloody. History this was again a chapter from my upcoming, book which you can pre order right, now and you'll get a copy of this

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