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Part One: Halloween Special: Spooky Stories

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Margaret reads Prop two horror stories she wrote.

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Speaker 1

Cools Media. Hello and welcome to cool People did cool stuff, or as it should be called this week. Margaret didn't come up with a funny title for spooky Week. That's that's what it's called. That's what my show is called.

Speaker 2

You are, in fact the cool person who did something cool.

Speaker 1

Oh. Thanks, because it's spooky week. And also I'm on tour and so I didn't write a script. Instead, I'm going to read you all stories. And by you all, I mostly mean my friends Prop and Sophie. Hi, how are you all? Hi?

Speaker 2

Hey Mac Paisy make the blood sport look easy? It's going down.

Speaker 1

I have been listening. For anyone who doesn't already listen to Hood Politics with Prop, you're missing out. It is my favorite keeping up with what's happening in the political world thing.

Speaker 2

Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1

I've been telling everyone about this piece you did about the future of coffee. Yes, all, it could happen here. Yeah, and how like there's like what twenty seven years left

of coffee? Spot it and that episode covers everything that people who I don't know people might have already heard it, but if they, if you haven't, I should go out and listen to it because it covers everything about like how the problem was formed, basically everything that's wrong with capitalism, and almost all of the ideas about how we get out of that problem, which usually involves like supporting worker cooperatives in the global South.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's all there, dude. Thanks. That was like it's been simmering for a while because I feel like with this is this is me continuing to be vulnerable. I just feel like with like the like it could happen here team, and you also in a lot of ways, y'all are like actual writers and journalists. Like I'm a poet that can rap and just knows a lot of things. So I'm like, I was always like nervous to be like, oh okay, So I was like, let me, I better

be thorough if I'm gonna do something for y'all. So like I I and it was like something that you know, obviously I'm like super passionate about it. But you're right, it's like here's here's a microcosm of all that's wrong with capitalism, colonialism, right, consumerism, you know, all of it, and then the solution being the shit we've been trying to say is the solution the whole time just yeah, cooperates fort each other. Stop seeing people as resources.

Speaker 1

It's almost frustrating how simple the problems really are at the core of it, because then we still can't do them. Yeah, you know, like on the large enough scale. Yeah, but Sophie's our producer. Hi, Sophie, I hey look one to Oh.

Speaker 2

Huh, I know, I know.

Speaker 1

It's a great it's as of this recording. It feels really good.

Speaker 2

It feels really good. We're talking about the Lakers.

Speaker 1

I figured it was a sports thing.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, it's sports ball.

Speaker 1

It feels really good today.

Speaker 2

Yeah at this moment.

Speaker 1

Hell yeah. I just keep watching those span atits of JJ's timeouts and huddles versus Darwin Ham's, and I like feelverly warm and fuzzy inside.

Speaker 2

So he is now a cool person who did a cool thing.

Speaker 1

Because like, the thing is he took a time out.

Speaker 2

Yes, the thing is like for the last few years, we've had a coach who just feels like, just play through, like and you guys will find your rhythm. So, but what you normally do.

Speaker 1

Is like we never did, we never did.

Speaker 2

What you normally do is like if the other team is like dog walking you and just like running the scoreboard up. You try to stop their momentum by calling a time out like okay, well stop stop stop stop stop, you know, and hopefully that breaks their zone and then gives you a chance to like regroup and maybe get some momentum back. He just never did it. So we were like so many times yelling at the TV call a time out, like he's already dead. We're already like

you said. So just in game one while we were winning beautiful, we just he was like, oh my god, he called a timeout like I already love you. Just air missing they won and they won.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so so all I can say JJ salute man.

Speaker 2

I was I have my I have my concerns, but like you have a suage to my concerns. With one game one.

Speaker 1

Time, we were like, oh are we oh he different? Are we slightly? Are we slightly safer?

Speaker 2

Like yeah, it's like it's like you dating a person that finally does the bare minimum of like yeah, no, I'll cover to day, cover the meal, like what you know what I'm saying it just really Yeah, you decided to shower before we went out today, like you know, like the.

Speaker 1

Bar was on the floor and you lifted up your feet.

Speaker 2

The bars on the floor. It's like, oh, oh you different.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Rory is our audio engineer. Everyon wants to say hi to Rory. Hi, Rory.

Speaker 2

Rory.

Speaker 1

Our theme music was written for Uced by Unwoman and yeah, spooky week. I'm on tour. I'm reading a bunch of stories as I go around on tour, and it is prop you've toured. I hear you talk about I have. Yes, all I'm doing is like waking up, driving for many hours, reading for a bunch of people, and then going to a hotel and then going to sleep and then repeating that yes and yeah. It's also very rewarding and I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

Speaker 2

But it is. Yeah, there's no like there's no week days or weekends. Yeah, it's just kind of now. Granted you're not sweating and throwing your voice out, you know, which is great, but that's true. Still You're just like, how do I make this city, make them feel like this was the first time I've done this? Yeah, And because it's the first time, they're experiencing it, you know, and trying to make it special. But it can be like, you know, wait, what what state is this?

Speaker 1

And the end totally.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And then this you know, this Marriott that I'm staying in with the just the free, the free Continental egg breakfast that you might as well just flush down the toilet, you know. Yeah, yeah, it's just gonna run right through you. But like, yeah, no, I get it well.

Speaker 1

And then it's like I ended up at a you know, somewhere, put me up in a hotel that I just like, I just was like I don't belong here, Like I shouldn't be in this place. Like I'm walking in with like patched pants and a dog that's afraid of cars, and just like and they're like, there's valet service. And I have like this giant West Virginia pickup truck because my van broke down before I left on tour.

Speaker 2

And I'm like, I don't sorry, guys, I.

Speaker 1

Don't know how to I don't know how to do valet service. And they're like, it's fine, just give us the keys to your truck.

Speaker 2

And I'm like, like, I I apologize in advance for when you get into this truck. And yeah, I was not prepared for anyone else to get into this Corok.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, I've been I've been living in this truck for two weeks, so you know, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2

Yeah for us, it's like if you can climb over the boxes of merch, yeah, you know, and bags of sunflower seeds, then yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. So all right, I'm going.

Speaker 1

To read you a story today and then a story. Well, I'm gonna read you two stories today, but the audience will hear one of them today and one of them on Wednesday. And this story, the first one I wrote. I actually never set out to write horror. The first time I really got into writing, and then slowly because I don't watch well now I watch horror, but for a long time I didn't watch horror because I lived in a van alone in like the woods a lot of the time. Yeah nah, I don't need to watch

people like me get murdered all the time. It doesn't sound fun, you know. And then eventually I realized that actually most horror movies are me murdering people instead. Because I moved into like a black cabin in the middle of the woods.

Speaker 2

You know, you are the yea, you are the fear.

Speaker 1

And then I could watch horror movies again, and and so I started writing more horror, and this story is a story I wrote a while ago now, and it's the title story to my book We Won't Be Here Tomorrow and other stories. Okay, a story is called we Won't be Here Tomorrow. Okay. I turned thirty yesterday, and the thing about being part of a teenage death cult

is you're not supposed to turn thirty. It was a personal failure on my part, the kind of personal failure that meant the ghouls of New Orleans were after me. The night air was alive with the usual white noise of gunshots and fireworks, and I stalked the cemetery, bouquet in hand, past row after row of people who died young. Some were at rest in their own above ground tombs,

others had been crammed into mausoleums. No one ever seemed to ask why so many gutter rats and punks were buried in relative luxury in a private graveyard within city limits. We humans are a relatively non curious species. On the whole. I laid thirteen white roses on Deirdre's grave. Deirdre didn't like flowers, but I like flowers. What she doesn't like doesn't matter, because she's dead, dead and eaten. Everyone I've

ever loved, really loved, not the like. The requisite and insincere love of child for parent was laid out within one city blocks worth of marble and cement. Janelle Mariette Thompson nineteen ninety to two thousand and nine, the girl I came to New Orleans for who broke my heart by deciding she was straight after all. She died drunk on a freight train before I had the chance to forgive her, before I had the chance to tell her there was nothing to forgive. Erica Freeman nineteen eighty eight

to twenty thirteen, the next straight girl after Janelle. We stayed friends. We played in three bands together. The last one was Dead Girl, Suicide on stage, Blood on the Crowd. I haven't forgiven her. Jorge Jefferson dead at twenty. Marcel Smith made it to twenty four, Damian Polanski twenty eight, Robert Lance, Heather Maria twenty three, each of them, Susie Hamilton and Suzanne Lanover never saw twenty. Deirdre Hanson nineteen

ninety two to twenty eighteen. I was so sure she was straight that she had to hit on me for a year before I let her kiss me. The year is a long time for people like us. The ghoul Sworn. We finally kissed down on the levee at a place called the End of the World. We were old then already. I was twenty four and it was her twenty third birthday, and what I got her was goods and services from our sponsors. That's what you get. Ooho, yo, wild you.

Speaker 2

That was the best I would say in the history. That was the you got. Because I was so in this story. I was like, yeah, God, goods, it's wait what oh like.

Speaker 1

Yo, take pride in my work.

Speaker 2

I was in like in that was wow, that was good.

Speaker 1

Here's the ads and we're back. She spent her twenty third birthday with me, with just me. Two days after her twenty sixth she died in a house fire at a party in the Seventh Ward, along with two other people, one ghul sworn, one just unlucky enough to hang out with the doomed. I would have been at the party, but my truck wouldn't start and my bike had a

flat and I was feeling lazy. So she'd died without me, and the Ghules put her here and every year on the anniversary of her death, their back at her corpse for another little bit of her soul. A knuckle here, a femur there. They eat bones and they live forever. And Deirdre was dead, like all of us. Ghulesworn were supposed to be while we were still young, and our essence was still strong in our marrow. There I was alive. It wasn't long until dawn until the ghules would rise

with the sun and haunt me. Haunt me. Already, dogs were howling, already, there was light on the horizon. One day soon I'd be and the words Mary Walker were going to be carved into stone. People go to New Orleans to die. I didn't want to die anymore. I had to get going. I had to track down ghosts and rumors of those who'd escaped. I left the flowers for Deirdre. Fuck you, Deirdre, Fuck you for dying. It

was Janelle who'd offered me the bargain. This would have been where I should have done the ad transit anyway.

Speaker 2

N the way you did it was perfect.

Speaker 1

I hadn't been in the city for more than a week, and she and I had been crashing on the roof of an abandoned grocery store. That place as of whole foods now might get torn down by bezos tomorrow. I've

outlived every derelict building I've ever known. Y'all go hard down here, I told her, after an evening that involved stealing drugs from a dealer, consuming those drugs, trying and failing to steal more drugs from the same dealer, and a roving party that moved through the darker bits of the city with a generator and a sound system and a shopping cart. Revelry had followed us like a cloud

overhead dancing debauchery. Sobriety was creeping up on me unwanted, like a fever, and I wasn't entirely sure how we'd made it back from the party to our tarped off overhang on that rooftop. I was eighteen. I don't know how to describe being eighteen, but you either remember it yourself or you might live long enough to know. You want to hear why, Janelle asked, Yeah, we can't go to jail. What it's gonna sound crazy? She said, bitch, I was born for crazy. Worse than that, I can't

tell you everything unless you join us. Whatever she was going to say, I already knew I was going to go along with it. I thought the sun shone out of that girl's asshole. I would have followed her into a wood chipper. Oh to be eighteen again. What's it involved? I asked, a permanent get out of jail free card. Cops will look the other way, the courts will look the other way. In exchange, you gotta die before you're thirty, like someone will kill me, not unless you turn thirty.

I didn't expect to turn thirty anyway. The way the world was and is who does survival didn't really seem possible, so I refused to prioritize it. I'm in that morning as a ketamine hangover started in on me. Janelle took me to meet the Ghules for the first time. The hot winter sun bore down on me, but I kept my hood up, as if a ratty black hoodie offered me any sort of anonymity or protection. In the kangaroo pocket, I fingered my revolver snubnose. Shit for most purposes, good

for killing someone, point blank, good for killing myself. I walked through the Upper Ninth and everything was weathered wood and smiling people. Somewhere in the distance I heard the horns and drums of a second line. This is a city that knows how to celebrate death whenever. The Ghules were going to catch me. When not if because I was too much of a coward to hold that smith and wesson to my temple. They weren't gonna kill me so much as they were gonna let me die. I've

been to their dungeons. You lived a twenty five as a ghule sworn, and they tap you for work down there, sometimes, probably just to remind you of their power, probably just to remind you to get on with dying. They were gonna hang me from chains, and they were gonna cut me open and remove every bone from my body, one by one. They were gonna crack me open to the marrow. They were gonna let me watch. It wouldn't work to run.

The Ghules owned the legal system inside and out. As soon as I'd turned thirty, they'd set me up as convicted of every crime they'd ever got me off of. Once I got popped, there'd be someone in my cell willing to take a full pardon in exchange for a knife in my guts. I turned the corner and saw the levee all handsome and full of birds. A few dogs ran off leash, while a few happy people passed a bottle on the grass. My finger found the trigger, and I know it's bad, but I let it sit.

There no safety on that thing besides the hard pull of a double action. I needed to die. I didn't want to die. They live forever, and I was only going to live a few more minutes or hours or days. A seagull landed on the concrete ruin under its feet in red spray paint. Someone had tagged the devil let us. I stopped and watched that bird, because it was beautiful, because it was worth the risk. After some time, it

flew off, and I went back to walking. Desmond lived in a little fortress of an apartment in the heart of a massive ruined factory, up on the fourth floor. If you want a view of the water, or of the city, or really just to see the sun or the sky at all, you've got to leave that safety and walk a few hundred yards across trash and needles and rubble to look out any windows. Desmond says, the privacy is worth it. Desmond is only twenty two, but

he's been sworn for a decade already. He's second generation. His mother hanged herself when he was fourteen. I gutted his father in an alley because I blamed him for his mother's death. I might have been right. Ever since, Desmond has been one of my best friends. He undid about fifteen locks and alarms in active defense systems to let me into his place. At least three or four million dollars in stolen lab equipment was barricaded inside. Didn't think I'd be seeing you again, he told me, from

where he lay on a ragged couch. His pupils had eclipsed the brown of his eyes. His black skin glistened with sweat. Despite the relative cool of the room. I wasn't sure what he was on, But then again I was never sure what he was on. A vape pen dangled loose in his hand. The whole place was bathed in dim lavender light. Even the dozens of led indicator lights had been modified to glow pale purple. The walls were wallpapered with flat screens. Most were broken. Some were

playing a carry Grant film. I perched on a milk crate stool across from him. What do you want dead? Girl. He didn't turn his face to look at me. You can't hide out here. Won't work out for either of us. You give a shit about danger. He took a drag and let out a cloud of vapor. It smelled like jasmine. Desmond scent coated his drugs. But I didn't remember there

being a jasmine one. I guess not, he said. His hands dug into the ragged upholstery, tensing and releasing of their own volition, and he gasped as something course through his veins. I can give you something to get out for good, he said, after his body came back under his control. Painless euphorick. Even Danny took some last week, said it was pleasant before she went under. I'm not trying to die, I said. Life is a death sentence. Not trying to die. Desmond turned his head and only

his head to look at me. His eyes seemed to glow in the light. It's too late, dead girl, you know that right. He turned back toward the ceiling. Avery got out, I said. Avery was an old gender queer punk who haunted ghoul sworn bars talking to No One two years back, twenty nine years old. They'd disappeared. I hadn't seen their grave, and I hadn't seen them in the dungeons, dead in the swamps. Desmond said, Gator's got to eat too. That's not what I hear, I said,

I hear you deal to them sometimes. I hear you know where they are. He took another drag and convulsed and filled the room with the scent of flowers. When did you go coward? He asked? Wanting to live makes me a coward. No, wanting to live makes you a hopeless, idiotic optimist. Going to ground makes you a coward. It's that or what just die?

Speaker 2

Go out?

Speaker 1

Like Terry Terry Williams nineteen seventy three to two thousand and two. She'd set fire to a marine ghulhouse in the middle of the day, then opened up on everyone came out of the building with an impressive assortment of fully automatic weapons. Terry Williams is why we know you can't kill a ghoul with fire or bullets, I said. She was also why we knew there were worse ways to die than having your bones removed and eaten in front of you. God had been satisfying, though, for a minute.

When she thought it was gonna work, the only way to hurt them I can think of is to starve them out. We all assumed they go hungry without us, though there wasn't any proof. If they ain't eating you, they'll be eating somebody else. He took another hit. This time the convulsions kept going for a full thirty seconds. You gotta try this, he said, offering me. The vape

doesn't have a name yet. It's a fast acting upper shuts down your motor control intense while it's happening, but fuck, when you come down, you come down solid, feel like yourself. I'm good, I said, Live a little, he said, then smiled at his own joke. I'm good. Here's what you do, he said. I got it figured out. Let me kill you, which, let's be real, you should let me do anyway, because you killed my dad. Only fair. Then there's an old cement mixer in here. I'll in case your body drop

you in the river. I get to kill you, you get to die, and gules don't get to eat you. Everybody's happy except the ghules. Fuck them.

Speaker 2

Okay. I'm like, I don't know how to do this version of the podcast because I'm just loving the story.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, yeah, no, you can interrupt if you want.

Speaker 2

But yeah, no, Like first question, huh, are like these things exist, like these death cults exist? Like these are a thing?

Speaker 1

No? No, this is my metaphor for a lot of my friends in New Orleans have real hard in short lives.

Speaker 2

Oh okay. I was like. I was like, if you don't want to reveal yet, that's great. But I'm just like, yeah, yeah, you have single handedly introduced me to parts of the world I didn't know existed.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I thought I've been pretty well traveled.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

Speaker 2

Killjoy is laid out a few things where I was like, oh, word, that's a thing. So so I was like, maybe this is a thing, you know, So okay, okay, cool?

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, no, I feel.

Speaker 2

A little less angsty right now.

Speaker 1

Yeah. No, that would be even darker than the reality.

Speaker 2

It'd be so dark. He's like, yeah, you know, I was a part of one.

Speaker 1

With Yeah, all right, just tell me where to find Avery. You really don't want to find Avery as a friend, trust me. Just die. You don't fucking get it, I said. Desmond shot upright so fast, it was like a movie skipped some frames. He held a pistol aimed at me, dead girl, you're the one who doesn't get it. We're friends, I said, in as calm a voice as I could manage. Adrenaline started my heart racing, and I knew a panic attack was on its way if I lived that long.

We are, Desmond agreed. I'm not killing you. You killed yourself a long time ago when you swore a pact with demons. This is me just helping another friend not make a rash decision. Shooting so some one is always a rash decision. The panic attack hit like a wall of sound, and it made me question my resolve. Death felt preferable to panic. Three, he counted. He raised the gun in both hands and aimed it at my temple for a man stone beyond reason. He held it steady.

I wanted to vomit. Two I still wanted to live. I tensed my legs under me. One I sprung at the ground. He fired, missed. My ears rang. I shot upright, closed on him, wrenched the gun from his hand, held it to his temple. A dead girl. We're friends, he spoke, loud like he could barely hear himself, which was probably the case. My ears rang, Tell me where to find avery, I said, just as loud. I won't tell you anything when you got a gun to my head, he said,

matter a principle. He was right. I dropped the mag and cleared the chamber. He lifted his vappen and I flinched. He took another drag, a tiny one. His hands clenched and unclenched. I sat next to him on the couch and he passed me the vape. I took a hit, and my panic intensified for a second before it dropped away entirely. I was as calm as I'd ever been. Sometimes that's the way through panic, same as danger. Don't

hide from it, embrace it. Avery's in the swamps, Desmond said, and they're not dead because they've been living off of the goods and services that support our podcast, including various things that you can go vape. I don't know if vape sponsor us or not. If they do, don't do it. Yeah. If there are drugs that are being advertised, you should trust your friends about drugs more than you should trust ads.

Speaker 2

These don't believe it.

Speaker 1

Which is saying something because you also shouldn't trust you friends about drugs.

Speaker 2

Your friends have no idea what they're talking about.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, that's also true. Well, here's are the rest of the ads and we're back.

Speaker 2

Oh. This lady right was like I don't want to die. Yeah, but one of the homies was like, but you promised, yeah, And then he tried to do it, but she joked him yep, okay, cool, I'm with it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and then was like, go tell me where this person who didn't die, Go tell me where they are at.

Speaker 2

Turns out they didn't die, okay, all right, yeah woo.

Speaker 1

The character of a city is shaped as much by the wilderness around it as it is by its architecture. The character of a city is shaped as much by its closest wildlife as by its rulers. New Orleans is as much a city of cyprus and cormorants as it is of shotgun houses and ghouls. I cut through the swamp and a stolen canoe, the white noise of traffic and people replaced by that of water and wildlife. Avery lived in a hunting shack built on piers, disguised from

all directions by trees. I parked at their dock, climbed a few stairs, and knocked at their door. They answered in aviators, A real tree punk vest and tight black pants. They looked exactly like I'd seen them perched at that bar every night for years, except they were paler than I remembered, and they had a shotgun pointed at my belly. Fuck you want Mary Walker to live? I said, go away? How'd you do it? How'd you survive? I ain't survived, for shit, not yet. I only got a year on you.

That makes you the oldest ghulsworn I've ever heard of. I said. They couldn't hide their pride. When I said that, look, can I come in just talk to you? We can talk out here. They stepped outside and closed the door. There were no windows. We sat on the dock, feet dangling over. Their fingernails and toenails were painted the blue of dead flesh. They spent a good moment lost in thought. Maybe we can help each other. They said, we'd never been friendly. Avery and I. Avery hadn't any friends as

long as I'd known them. Rumors said they lost most of theirs in a gang fight and never bothered finding new ones. So why the swamps? You know they're afraid of water. What I've spent the last two years studying the fucking things learned an awful lot. They need sunlight to function. They're not just cold blooded, they're unblooded. They're afraid of water, not because they'd drowned they can't, but because they'd run out of energy down there where the

sun can't reach. It's over for them. Torpor forever. You're in the swamps, because if you see them coming, you sink their boats. Bingo. That's it. Then just hide in the swamps by yourself, only come out at night. Let me tell you how to stay alive, Mary Walker. You cling to life. You claw at it until your fingers bleed.

You tell yourself every time you take a breath that you're going to live to take another one, that you will live forever, no matter what it takes, no matter how much it hurts, no matter how much you hurt anyone else. You sound like a ghoul in the distance. Some animal called out like a human, quietly screaming. They weren't always ghules. They became ghules, each of them individually. How I asked, you know how the marrow of the gul sworn. There's more to it than that, but it's

mostly the marrow of the ghul sworn. All the gulls were once ghul sworn, how can that work? I don't know, Avery said, it's the chicken in the egg. Chickens though they eat eggs. Avery was going to try and kill me. They were going to try to eat my bones. I put my hands in the pocket of my hoodie and felt the revolver. I've told you how I survived. Avery said. Their shotgun was in their lap, and they rested their

hand on the grip. Now you can help me. For a half second, I considered waiting for them to move to prove their intentions.

Speaker 2

I didn't.

Speaker 1

I drew the revolver, held it to their throat, and pulled the trigger. The wind caught the mist of the blood and brought it to my face. I couldn't hear anything in the wake of the blast. Their eyes drew open wide, and they started to lift the shotgun because they didn't know they were dead already. None of us know when we're dead already. I stood up and kicked them into the water, and they sank. You were right, I told Desmond, it's usually best to lead with the apology.

You want me to put you down. We sat on the roof of his squatted factory. The moon was waning in the sky above us. I couldn't see many stars, not as many as I'd seen paddling out from the swamp with a stack of Avery's notebooks piled in the canoe. But the lights of the city are stars of their own. Each one holds a mystery and the promise of life. No, not that part, I said. You were right about not

clinging to life so desperately. That's the ghoul's life. I'd rather I wasn't caught up in any of the shit at all. Sure, but I'd still rather be ghulesworn than be a ghoul. That's my dead girl, Desmond said. He took a drag from his pen. The air smelled like rose. What's that one, I asked, Basically, just speed, he said, has a worse come down than speed, though I'm still working on it. You want to hit you're not selling it well, So what's the plan If you're not gonna

let me kill you? But you're supposedly not afraid of death anymore. Let's kill ghules, I said, How the fuck do you kill ghoules? You got a cement mixer, right, Yeah, it's not me. We're going to drop into the river, I said. I like the way you think, dead girl, stop calling me dead girl. I'll stop calling you that when you're dead, which sounds like it'll be tomorrow. Yeah, that's about my guess. If we're dead tomorrow, want to get wrecked tonight? I took one long last look at

the stars of the city. Yeah, I said, yeah, I do. And that's the story.

Speaker 2

Dude. I used to think this this might be just me being basic that I was like, I don't understand how a book can scare you, you know what I'm saying, Like, I was like I don't get it, but yo, you had me in.

Speaker 1

I was like, thank you.

Speaker 2

Where does this stuff come from? Man? Like, yo, like, give me some game. What are we doing? Kill joy? Yeah?

Speaker 1

All right, So this story, more than anything else, it comes from, like I think a lot of subcultures, like like Punkstone, assume they're going to live to be very old, right, very true, And so you have this thing where you're like, you hit thirty and then you're like, oh that's cool now what you know?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

And uh, and actually that's when life gets more interesting and harder because you actually have to like succeed at stuff and get things done and help people and yeah, you know, but but you don't like know that, Like I didn't know that when I was like riding trains in my twenties and shit.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, it's kind of the same with like kind of like just like street life when you're like like most most guys, Like even talking to one of my close friends, he was like, I didn't think I was going to live past twenty five. I was like, and if I would, it'd be in jail. So like, I didn't. I didn't have any plans after this, you know, it was like, oh, I should get married, man, yeah, have kids, but like, I don't know, I have no plans after this, Like I didn't. I didn't think i'd make it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah exactly, Like oh I should get my teeth fixed. I like, yeah, oh I didn't. Like I didn't think I needed those, you know, I work out.

Speaker 2

Be healthy, Like yeah, it's happening right now.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah exactly. And a bunch of people I know have died in New Orleans. And the worst of it was that a friend of mine named Flee was just shot kind of randomly, and and at his funeral, everyone like celebrated in the squat and then slept there. And then the squat burned down and like, I think seven people died gosh, and it was just like and I didn't know. I only knew the person whose funeral it was, and I wasn't at the funeral. I didn't know the

people who died afterwards. But it was just such a like, oh, yeah, like this shit's hard. Yeah yeah, oh man, and so so yeah, no, this is my this is my my grand metaphor for how a lot of people don't think they're going to live to be old.

Speaker 2

H Yeah, that's okay, man, that's powerful. Thank you, thanks Magpie.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm going to read you another story from the same book, but I'm going to read it to you. Well, i'll read it to you in a couple of minutes, but I'll read it to everyone else because of the magic of time, it'll be different time.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

But if folks want to check out more of what you do, how can they do that?

Speaker 2

Yeah? Prop hip hop dot com has all the things. The politics will Prop is the podcast, and it's been quite spicy, and I've had to really work hard to make it real spicy, giving how boring the political landscape is these days. So, oh, what do you think is going to happen.

Speaker 1

Wait can I actually wait? So when is this going to come out? Before the election? Yeah, before the election. What do you think is going to happen? Not like necessarily who do you think is gonna win? But like, what do you think is going to happen? Yeah, closer landslide? Closer landslide.

Speaker 2

My my thought is it'll be not a landside, but not as close as we think it's gonna be. And I think, no matter what, our holidays will be full of protests and riots. Yeah, Like I just think that, Yeah, the holidays are they're just gonna suck this year, and it's just there's going to be chaos and pending doom, yeah for most of November and December, and no matter what.

Speaker 1

That's the that's the wildest part is that, Yeah, you're like, yeah, no matter which one of them wins, it's just yeah, people are gonna be real mad and people aren't gonna believe it.

Speaker 2

And yeah yeah, and uh I wish it would be like somebody just gets a whiff of like, you know, smelling sense and they're just like whoa, yeah what happened? Man? Like, yeah, dude, I had this horrible dream, you know, like this you know, be rad if that went down.

Speaker 1

But I don't remember when like the old Republican Party was the normal enemy that we were all used to.

Speaker 2

Well, they're just yeah, like they're just so quaint now when.

Speaker 1

They say cuddly, you know. Yeah, yeah, but they had to pretend they weren't racist in public, at least at least they.

Speaker 2

Was at least yeah, yeah, they pretended they weren't racist, and their racism was a type of racism that I could at least comprehend. Yeah, like you know, like, oh I comprehend your type of racist. Yeah, you know, you don't you know what I'm around your kids? Yeah, got it?

Speaker 1

And I'll say actually again for that's just I really like props podcast that's probably come across, But like you do a really good job of presenting different people's perspective on something.

Speaker 2

Man.

Speaker 1

You know, I was listening to one you did recently where it was about this. I actually don't remember the name of the episode, but you were just like you're being like, this is what they think they're doing when they say we hate gay people, or this is what they say they think they're doing. You did a really a job of that.

Speaker 2

Thanks, Like I really pride myself in that, like like again being vulnerable, Like I I'm as a in my own way, a storyteller, Like you have to be able to articulate multiple perspectives in multiple and that means getting in those shoes understanding at least, you know, and then and then to me, the proof of understanding is being able to say it back, you know. So like you know, the the jd vance phenomenon. I'm like, obviously I feel the same way you do, where I'm just like, this

is a douchebag frat boy like that, you know. And and he's not even like a cool one. Yeah, Sometimes douchebag frat boys you could be like they're kind of cool.

Speaker 1

Like yeah, drink, yeah, you know.

Speaker 2

Still he's still kind of fun, you know.

Speaker 3

Like, but this dude, I'm like, but I get why y'all like him, you know, I get why you chose him, you know. And he's doing the thing like and I'm like, oh, I see why this resonates, Like because you feel about this, you know. Now, I don't understand why you fall in for it. Yeah, but yeah, I understand why you like it.

Speaker 2

Yeah. So that's something that like I try to I try my best to be able to say you know.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, and it's it's good and honestly like not enough of what not enough of what I listened to does that and does it well?

Speaker 2

And so dude, thank you.

Speaker 1

Yeah, anyone who's listening, go check out hood politics. Yeah.

Speaker 2

So at least you could tell your your uncle Dave, like, no, I get it, you're dead wrong, Yeah, I get it, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1

All right, Well, we will see you all on Wednesday, and oh, if you're anywhere on the let's see by the time this comes out, I will be speaking in Portland in a couple of days on November first with Robert Evans at Powell's and then I don't have the rest of my tour dates lined up yet, but I will be going through California and then through the South and then up through like probably Tennessee, stuff like that. So you should check out my substack or my Instagram.

I'll be posting those dates and or saying them on the show. Want to get them figured out, and we'll see you all on Wednesday. Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff is a production of cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from Cool Zone Media, visit our website. Foolzonemedia dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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