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Conversing with Mark Labberton invites listeners into transformative encounters with leaders and creators shaping our world at the intersection of Christian faith, culture, and public life.
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159 - Theater and Story, with Liz Jacobsen

Liz Jacobsen shares about teaching theater to high schoolers and about the power of art and storytelling to transform us. Liz Jacobsen is a theater teacher, currently teaching at Stadium High School in Tacoma, Washington.

Apr 16, 202449 min

158 - Astrophysics and Faith, with Jennifer Wiseman

Jennifer Wiseman shares about the journey of her finding a career in science, the interactions and connections between science and faith, and the upcoming solar eclipse. Jennifer Wiseman is an astrophysicist, author, and speaker, and she is director emeritus of the program of Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion (DoSER) for the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

Apr 02, 20241 hr 8 min

157 - Faith and Public Life, with Michael Wear

Michael Wear talks about the state of politics in the United States and the ways our faith is interwoven with public life. Michael Wear is founder, president, and CEO of the Center for Christianity and Public Life.

Mar 19, 202439 min

156 - Our Stories and God’s Providence, with Esau McCaulley

Esau McCaulley, discussing his new memoir, reflects on the way we tell Black stories and how we make sense of our narratives for the glory of God. Esau McCalley is assistant professor of New Testament at Wheaton College and the author of Reading While Black and How Far to the Promised Land, among other works.

Mar 05, 202451 min

155 - Christian Social Action, with Nikki Toyama-Szeto

Nikki Toyama-Szeto shares about her work leading Christians for Social Action, the organization’s commitment to cultivating faithful engagement with issues of justice, and her experience as a Japanese American woman in leadership. Nikki Toyama-Szeto is executive director of Christians for Social Action.

Feb 20, 202454 min

152 - On Thriving, with Pamela Ebstyne King

Pamela Ebstyne King discusses her research and work on the topic of thriving, as well as her new podcast, With & For. Pamela Ebstyne King is Peter L. Benson Professor of Applied Developmental Science and executive director of the Thrive Center for Human Development.

Jan 09, 202439 min

151 - Against Toxic Polarization, with Andrew Hanauer

Andrew Hanauer describes the work of bridging the deep divides in American politics, the church, and faith communities more broadly. Andrew Hanauer is the president and CEO of the One America Movement. We invite you to take a brief listener survey at fuller.edu/survey in order to help the Conversing team guide the future of the show.

Dec 12, 202352 min

150 - The Transformative Power of Gospel Music, with Stephen Newby

Stephen Newby reflects on the ability of Gospel music to invite all people in and what that means for today’s world and church. Stephen Michael Newby is the inaugural holder of The Lev H. Prichard III Endowed Chair in the Study of Black Worship and also serves as Professor of Music and Ambassador for The Black Gospel Music Preservation Program at Baylor University.

Nov 28, 202355 min

149 - Race and the Evangelical Church, with Jemar Tisby

Jemar Tisby reflects on Tom Skinner’s impactful speech “Racism and World Evangelism,” delivered at the 1970 Urbana Missions Conference, and considers the ways it resonates with the reality of the American church today. Tom Skinner’s speech can be listened to here. Jemar Tisby is the author of The Color of Compromise, How to Fight Racism, and, most recently, How to Fight Racism: Young Reader’s Edition.

Nov 14, 202356 min

148 - Formation and Resiliency in Law Enforcement, with Luann Pannell

Luann Pannell discusses mental health and training in law enforcement and shares about her two decades of work with the Los Angeles Police Department. Luann Pannell is a Fuller alum, CEO of Exceptional Edge Consulting, and was director of police training and education at the LAPD for 18 years.

Oct 31, 202357 min

147 - The Urgent Work of Radical Belonging, with Ben McBride

Ben McBride talks with Mark about his new book, T roubling the Water: The Urgent Work of Radical Belonging , which outlines his journey and work in the “kill zone” in Oakland, CA. Ben McBride is a visionary leader of radical belonging. The co-founder of the Empower Initiative, a capacity-building firm devoted to empowering organizations and communities, he is a leading expert in fostering belonging and public safety reform.

Oct 17, 202350 min

146 - The Rhythms of Church Life, with Chris Henry

Chris Henry talks about the importance of rhythm in the church year and about leadership in a post-pandemic world. Chris Henry is senior pastor of Second Presbyterian Church in Indianapolis, Indiana.

Oct 03, 202345 min

145 - Artificial Intelligence and Faith, with David Brenner

David Brenner describes the mission of the organization AI and Faith, which works to direct artificial intelligence research and technology towards human flourishing, with an eye towards ethics and a grounding in multiple faith traditions. This is the fourth in a series on artificial intelligence, based in part on the work of AI and Faith, an organization which seeks to engage the world in the moral and ethical issues around artificial intelligence. Learn more at AIandfaith.org. David Brenner is...

Sep 19, 202338 min

144 - Developing Artificial Intelligence, with Phil Chen

Phil Chen talks about the development of AI and the ethics of sourcing material for large language models like ChatGPT. This is the third in a series on artificial intelligence, based in part on the work of AI and Faith, an organization which seeks to engage the world in the moral and ethical issues around artificial intelligence. Learn more at AIandfaith.org. Phil Chen is an investor, a serial entrepreneur, and a senior advisor at Race Capital.

Sep 05, 202347 min

143 - Artificial Intelligence, Humanity, and Morality, with Guy Kawasaki

Guy Kawasaki discusses some of the possible positive impacts of artificial intelligence for creativity, productivity, and society at large. This is the second in a series on artificial intelligence, based in part on the work of AI and Faith, an organization which seeks to engage the world in the moral and ethical issues around artificial intelligence. Learn more at AIandfaith.org. Guy Kawasaki is the chief evangelist of Canva and the creator of Guy Kawasaki’s Remarkable People podcast....

Aug 22, 202354 min

142 - Artificial Intelligence and Ethics, with Mark Graves

Mark Graves discusses the intersections of AI, technology, ethics, faith, and philosophy. This is the first in a series on artificial intelligence, based in part on the work of AI and Faith, an organization which seeks to engage the world in the moral and ethical issues around artificial intelligence. Learn more at AIandfaith.org. Mark Graves is a research fellow and director at AI and Faith and is a research associate professor of psychology at Fuller Seminary.

Aug 08, 202354 min

141 - A Life of Ministry, with Rick Warren

Rick Warren shares about his many years of ministry—from the beginnings of Saddleback Church to his current work of participating in the Great Commission—and about what he’s learned of leadership, church, and God along the way. Rick Warren is a pastor, an author, and the founder of Saddleback Church. He is also executive director of Finishing the Task.

Jul 25, 20231 hr 7 min

140 - Thinking Well and Leading Wisely, with Cherie Harder

Cherie Harder discusses the state of political discourse in the United States and the task of helping leaders to more effectively cultivate ideas and Christian thought amidst today’s wider conversations. Cherie Harder is president of the Trinity Forum and formerly served in the White House as special assistant to the president and director of policy and projects for First Lady Laura Bush.

Jul 11, 202347 min

139 - Mental Health and Wellbeing in the Church, with Daniel Whitehead

Daniel Whitehead describes the work of integrating mental health services into the community offerings of the church, sharing particularly about the efforts of Sanctuary Mental Health Ministries. Daniel is the CEO of Sanctuary Mental Health Ministries, equipping churches to support mental health and wellbeing in their community. Learn more at sanctuarymentalhealth.org.

Jun 27, 202348 min

138 - The Fight for Racial Justice, with Jeanelle Austin

Jeanelle Austin discusses her work at the George Floyd Global Memorial and her push for “people over property” in both preservation and activism. Jeanelle Austin is the creator of the Racial Agency Initiative and the lead caretaker of the George Floyd Global Memorial.

Jun 13, 20231 hr

137 - Women in Church Leadership, with Tara Beth Leach

Tara Beth Leach talks about her experiences as a woman in ministry and her new role as senior pastor of Good Shepherd Church in Naperville, Illinois. Tara Beth Leach is a preacher, writer, and the senior pastor of Good Shepherd Church in Naperville, Illinois.

May 30, 202347 min

136 - Finding Hope after Abuse, with Beth Moore

Beth Moore shares her story of childhood abuse and about finding refuge in the Scriptures, the church, and the love of Jesus. Beth Moore is an author, speaker, and teacher, and she is the founder and visionary of Living Proof Ministries. She has written numerous bestselling books, including her most recent, All My Knotted-Up Life.

May 16, 202353 min

135 - Affordable Housing, with Jonathan Reckford

Jonathan Reckford discusses the mission and history of Habitat For Humanity and the state of the housing crisis in the United States and abroad. Jonathan Reckford is chief executive officer of Habitat for Humanity International.

May 02, 202356 min

134 - Critical Race Theory and the Church, with Robert Chao Romero and Jeff Liou

Robert Chao Romero and Jeff Liou discuss critical race theory, how it relates to their personal experiences and faith, and what it means for the church in the United States. Robert Chao Romero is professor of Chicana/o studies and Asian American studies at UCLA. Jeff Ming Liou is the national director of theological formation for InterVarsity Christian Fellowship/USA.

Apr 18, 202359 min

133 - Work and Rest, with Justin McRoberts

Justin McRoberts talks about his upcoming book, Sacred Strides, and the balance of work and rest in life and faith. Justin McRoberts is an author, coach, speaker, and songwriter. He is the author of six books, including the forthcoming Sacred Strides: The Journey to Belovedness in Work and Rest.

Apr 04, 202347 min

132 - Baptism and the Evolving Work of the Church, with Scott Dudley

Scott Dudley shares about 139 baptisms on a recent Sunday at Bellevue Presbyterian Church, and about the church’s spiritual and social work in the city of Bellevue and abroad. Scott Dudley is Senior Pastor at Bellevue Presbyterian Church in Bellevue, Washington.

Mar 21, 202354 min

131 - Black Life and Legacy, with Danté Stewart

Danté Stewart shares about his family’s visit to The Legacy Museum in Montgomery, Alabama, and about the sacred experience of knowing the whole story of Black life in the United States. Danté Stewart is an award-winning writer, speaker, and author of Shoutin’ In The Fire: An American Epistle.

Feb 28, 202351 min

130 - Living the Gospel, with David Emmanuel Goatley

As he begins his role as Fuller’s new president, David Emmanuel Goatley shares about his own Christian formation, the apostolic mission of the church, and the task of theological education in the world today. David Emmanuel Goatley is the sixth president of Fuller Seminary.

Jan 10, 202351 min
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