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Conversations

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Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption. Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling. Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.
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Episodes

How Tolstoy and Chekhov schooled George Saunders on life's great lessons

Writer George Saunders on how famous short stories by writers like Chekhov, Tolstoy, Turgenev and Gogol are like miniature models of the world and how they can teach us to transcend our own limitations. (R) For many years, author George Saunders taught a writing masterclass in upstate New York, in which he introduced students to the stories of the great Russian authors. Conversations with his students about writers like Tolstoy and Chekhov have given George some of the happiest moments of his li...

Sep 30, 202450 min

The unexpected plot twist: how a solo hiker stayed alive after shattering her pelvis in Joshua Tree National Park

Claire Nelson hadn't told anyone where she was going, and her phone lost signal shortly into her hike. As an experienced bushwalker, she never dreamed an adventure would turn out like this. (R) Claire Nelson was hiking alone in Joshua Tree National Park in 2018, when she slipped on a stack of boulders and fell 25 feet to the ground. The impact shattered Claire’s pelvis, and she couldn’t even raise herself on her elbows, let alone stand. She could reach her phone, but in the middle of the Califor...

Sep 27, 202451 min

The unexpected plot twist: the story of how suicide survivor Oceane, who became a beloved midwife

At the age of 18, Oceane Campbell tried to take her own life. She survived and fought her way back into life, becoming a midwife and a mother of three (CW: discussion of suicide, please take care when listening). (R) Oceane Campbell has been very close with the raw stuff of life. She's a midwife and a mother, so she's seen and experienced the power of birth many times over. She has also been very close to death. At the age of 18, Oceane tried to take her own life. After she survived, she began a...

Sep 26, 202453 min

The unexpected plot twist: The story of Toni Jordan's lucky life

Toni Jordan grew up working in a T.A.B. with her cyclonic mother, and going to the greyhound races. Then she grew up to become a best-selling novelist. (R) Toni Jordan is a best-selling novelist. But she didn't grow up in a house full of books. Her mum ran a T.A.B. and her dad trained greyhounds for a living. Toni's mum was hardworking and hilarious, but she could also be hard to live with. All her life, Toni felt she had to look out for her mum. But after Marg became a grandmother, Toni began t...

Sep 25, 202452 min

The unexpected plot twist: The tech nerd who changed course to help the homeless

Jon Owen's mum enrolled him in a computer science degree at University - expecting him to build a flourishing career; which he did. It just wasn't the one that everyone expected. (R) Jon Owen came to Australia as a small child. He survived playground racism at school, and became a high achiever. His family expected him to excel at school and university and go on to a flourishing career. And that's exactly what he did — in a way that nobody could have predicted. Jon was near the end of his comput...

Sep 24, 202451 min

An odyssey across Australia — how 11,000 sheep were walked from Victoria into the outback

In 1882, thousands of sheep set off from a property in Western Victoria. Their destination was a huge station in the Northern Territory, land which a sheep had never set foot on. To get there, these animals and their drover battled drought, flood, famine and doubt. Tom Guthrie is a winemaker and sheep farmer in Western Victoria, and is a descendent in a long line of enterprising farmers. Almost 150 years ago, after surviving shipwrecks, fires and floods, Tom's ambitious great grandfather sent 11...

Sep 20, 202449 min

A life spent making — ‘Mr Millimetre’s’ memories

Jeffrey Broadfield has made building his life. It has taken him around the world, and given him a place to belong. Jeffrey Broadfield is a master maker who builds houses to his clients’ wishes and quirks, using carpentry to turn recycled Australian hardwood into dream homes. It’s a craft Jeffrey says is dying. He grew up in Griffith, NSW, where he learned to swim in the irrigation channel and entice next door’s chooks over into his house to play. When he left school at 16, Jeffrey became interes...

Sep 18, 202451 min

Fish sperm sausages, and eyeball icecream: the Josh Niland story

From using fish eyes in ice cream, and not wasting the liver, to creating recipes with fish sperm, chef Josh Niland on his mission to revolutionise how we cook and eat fish. (R) Chef Josh Niland is devoted to changing ideas about how we cook and eat fish in the Western world. He believes that rather than eating just the fillet, we should aim to eat the whole fish, as we do nose-to-tail with animals. At his restaurants, he cooks with fish eyeballs, fish livers, fish heads, and milt (fish sperm). ...

Sep 17, 202452 min

The architects of ancient Arabia – speaking to the sky

The deserts of Saudi Arabia are still holding on to many ancient secrets, hidden inside burial tombs and mysterious monumental structures called mustatils. Dr Hugh Thomas is on an archaeological mission to solve some of these mysteries. Hugh Thomas is an archaeologist who is fascinated by ancient mortuary practices and the secrets still hidden in the deserts of Saudi Arabia. In the north west of the country, thousands of mysterious rectangular structures, built in the fifth millennium, are still...

Sep 16, 202452 min

The epic highs and lows of Ji's life on the trampoline

Ji Wallace was at the top of his career as a gymnast and acrobat when a terrible injury and surprising diagnosis brought him back down to earth, temporarily. Ji was an energetic, only child growing up on a bush block in suburban Brisbane when his parents brought home a trampoline to keep him occupied. Ji took to it so quickly, he learnt how to flip by that afternoon, and was a national champion in gymnastics just a couple of years later. He managed to make a career out of bouncing around, repres...

Sep 13, 202453 min

Treating dementia — a new way of caring for the elderly

Psychiatrist Duncan McKellar wrote the report that triggered the Royal Commission into Aged Care Quality and Safety. He has seen how care changes when we take someone's life story into account. Duncan McKellar is a psychiatrist specialising in the care of older people with dementia and serious mental health conditions. When Duncan first started working with these patients, he was shocked to find elderly people tied to chairs and left in locked rooms. His advocacy helped trigger the Royal Commiss...

Sep 12, 202453 min

The story of James Earl Jones, and his legacy

The late James Earl Jones grew up with a stutter and hardly said a word for years. After an English teacher intervened, he grew up to become one of the world's finest actors. (R) Actor James Earl Jones died recently, at the age of 93. When he was touring Australia in 2013 with a production of Driving Miss Daisy, Richard had the chance to sit down with him and ask him about his life. Although we knew him for his magnificent voice, James Earl Jones grew up with a stutter. A stutter which was so se...

Sep 11, 202438 min

Epic sharks — the ancient origins of the monsters of the sea

From sharks with wheels of teeth, to gargantuan sharks like the megalodon, palaeontologist John Long has traced the long and storied history of these oceanic hunters. Sharks and humans have a complicated relationship. We have long considered them monsters and super predators that should be eliminated for our own safety. But sharks are much more than scary and fearsome. The history of this incredible animal stretches back hundreds of millions of years. From sharks with wheels of teeth, to the asc...

Sep 10, 202450 min

Words of love — writing stories of Aboriginal land

Author and professor Anita Heiss on her parents' story of romance, and how she brings true history alive in her work. Anita Heiss is a Wiradjuri woman, an author of many books and Professor of Communications at The University of Queensland. She has described herself as a “concrete Koori with Westfield dreaming.” Many of Anita's books focus on great love stories, and the inspiration for these romances came from the enduring, devoted love she saw between her parents – the very Austrian “Joe-the-ca...

Sep 09, 202448 min

My brother's death — writing the story of a family's grief and loss

For decades, Gideon Haigh and his mother were the only two people who really knew what happened on Jaz's last night. This year, it all poured out. Gideon Haigh's brother Jasper was 17 years old when he died in a car crash. Until this year, Gideon and his mother were the only two people who really knew what happened to Jaz on that tragic night. Gideon has spent decades perfecting answers to questions about his brother — answers that never invited further discussion. This year, something peculiar ...

Sep 06, 202452 min

Quitting alcohol – the story of how Seana got sober

After a childhood spent trying to escape her father's booze-fuelled outbursts, Seana developed her own problem relationship with drinking. But by her mid-50s, Seana decided she had had enough. Seana Smith grew up in a beautiful house in rural Scotland, and when things were good at home, they were wonderful. But Seana’s father loved to drink, and his habit took over her family’s life. Despite the fights, abuse and violence, Seana's mother couldn't bring herself to leave her husband, and so Seana ...

Sep 05, 202454 min

How dogs think — and what they think of us

Dog behaviourist Laura Vissaritis uses science and psychology to better understand what our dogs really are telling us and how our behaviour influences theirs (R). Laura is a dog behaviourist with qualifications in both animal behaviour and human psychology. Dogs were the first animals to become domesticated, and over the centuries they've evolved from their wolfish origins to become more useful, attentive and appealing to us. Laura says that when a dog is displaying 'difficult' behaviours like ...

Sep 04, 202450 min

My Stolen Generations story: how Brenda was taken from her family, twice

As a young child, chunks of Brenda Matthews' early memories were missing until her biological mother told her the truth of what happened. Together they are slowly healing Wiradjuri woman Brenda Matthews was stolen from her family, along with her six siblings, when she was two-years-old. She came from a loving, hardworking, religious family. She was fostered by an affectionate white family, and she blended into her new life happily. After six years of living with them, she was told it was time to...

Sep 03, 202446 min

The story of the melancholy spy

When a devastating injury ended Jack Beaumont's career as a jet fighter pilot, he decided to become a spy, in the French Secret Service. Jack Beaumont (not his real name) is a former intelligence operative and the author of several spy thrillers. Jack grew up in a turbulent family in Paris and when he got older he decided to train as a jet fighter pilot with the French Air Force. During a training dogfight at supersonic speed, Jack suffered a devastating injury that meant he could no longer fly ...

Sep 02, 202453 min

The psychedelic revolution — how MDMA mended Rebecca's mind

While struggling with PTSD, social researcher Rebecca Huntley chose an unconventional and underground path to healing — MDMA therapy. Rebecca Huntley is well known to many Australians for her formidable intellect and career as a broadcaster, an author and a social researcher. But despite her impressive public-facing life, in private, Rebecca's trauma from a difficult upbringing refused to leave her. At 50, she walked the Camino in Italy and realised that after 30 years of therapy, she was still ...

Aug 30, 202453 min

Smuggled out of Wewak — Carolyn's dramatic escape from Papua New Guinea

When Carolyn Blacklock's passport was confiscated from her in a foreign country she was faced with a scary reality that got wilder at every turn Carolyn Blacklock's passport was taken from from her at the Port Moresby International Airport when she was trying to get on a plane back to Australia. It was at that moment she realised just how much trouble she was in. Carolyn, who had headed up the national power company in Papua New Guinea and worked for the World Back there, had faced charges of co...

Aug 29, 202453 min

When the pirate got paid on the island of Corfu

Kári Gíslason was 18 when he met a mysterious stranger called 'the Pirate' on the Greek island of Corfu. When he fled the island, he left behind a debt he promised to one day repay. When Kári Gíslason was 18, he came to the island of Corfu as a stony-broke traveller. But he quickly found work in a little town: lime washing walls and working as a builder’s labourer. The man who gave him the work was a mysterious figure known simply as ’the Pirate’. At first, Kári thought it was a nickname given t...

Aug 28, 202452 min

The spark that saw Andy become solar-powered

Andy McCarthy found passion for solar power as a high school dropout. He began one of Australia's biggest solar businesses, right in the heart of Victoria's coal country. But then a breakdown changed everything for Andy and his family Andy McCarthy dropped out of high school in year 10. He was a highly energetic kid but found it difficult to latch onto any one thing for long. Andy was happier out of school, and tried a whole lot of different jobs. Then at 19, he connected his first solar panel a...

Aug 27, 202453 min

The sprawling history of the human soul — part two

In this two-part series, historian Paul Ham traces how our definition and understanding of the human soul has transformed over thousands of years. Humans have been probing their own invisible inner voice since the Stone Age. But where did the concept of the soul even come from? And is it really what separates the living from the dead? Historian and writer Paul Ham has traced how our definition and understanding of the human soul has changed over thousands of years. Human beings have been probing...

Aug 26, 202449 min

The trailblazing papergirl, lawyer and playwright

Suzie Miller's frugal and free range St Kilda childhood taught her to question almost everything. She grew up to become a trailblazing writer and lawyer (R) Suzie Miller grew up in St Kilda, and from early in life she had a number of part-time jobs. She became a trailblazing paper girl in her local area, when the role was usually only offered to boys. As a young woman Suzie trained as a lawyer and began working with homeless teenagers in Sydney’s Kings Cross. She then began to write stories and ...

Aug 23, 202453 min

My aunt was smuggled to Tashkent by Stalin

Helen Vatsikopoulos' family never spoke about what happened to her aunt, Aspasia after the Greek Civil War. She uncovered a story of secret evacuation, exile and unknown family members. Helen Vatsikopoulos was born in a little mountain village on the northern border of Greece. She came to Adelaide as a young girl and grew up to become a TV journalist, covering big international stories for the ABC and SBS. When she was in her 30s, Helen and her husband were visiting her parents when her father s...

Aug 22, 202453 min

Heavenly beings: the icon paintings of Michael Galovic

Artist Michael Galovic had been painting mysterious and mystical icons for decades before he truly understood the theology behind what he was doing — expertly and purposefully distorting reality to create a window into a heavenly and otherworldly realm

Aug 21, 202451 min

Dave Gleeson needs a damn good lie down

Dave Gleeson is known for his blistering performances in The Screaming Jets and The Angels, but he grew up singing at Mass in Cardiff, with a mum who opened their home to hundreds of foster children (R)

Aug 20, 202453 min
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