Conversations with Kaitlyn Bristowe

where she started and how she got here. And I think probably a lot of you are curious as well if you're a fan. So I'm very excited to have Caitlin Bristow on the podcast today and I really hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Hi, Hi, oh, look how cute your background is? Well, yeah, I it's wallpaper and a Neon sign and I yeah, it's my little like ladies lounge. I call it. I love that. That's so cute. Well, welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for coming on,

Thank you for having me. Your hair looks great. That color, Thank you so much. I just died it and I don't know what came over me to thank you that. Um, did you just get back from the tour. Did it just end? Um? So they got it ended at the end of March. Okay, so you've been I've been done for a second. Yeah, it feels like it was just

ended yesterday. But I'm also like, brain fog is so real for me right now because I was in Mexico and when you get back from vacation, everybody always says you need a vacation from a vacation because of that kind of vacation. So I don't mind my brain fog today, no worries about all. Um, Well, you want to tell everybody a little bit about yourself today we have Caitlin Bristow on the podcast. I'm so excited and um we

can just jump right into it. But for those maybe who don't know you, Yeah, where you come from everything. I come from a teeny tiny little town in Alberta called La Duke in Canada, and I grew up there. I wanted to be a dancer my whole life. That's what my mom was, a professional ballerina. I wanted to follow in her footsteps. I had this whole dream of being a dancer. I moved to Vancouver, Canada to be

a part of a dance company. It didn't work out for me, and then I was like, well, I guess I'm going to pick up my stuff and move with my boyfriend, who was a hockey player, very Canadian of me, and we moved kind of all over the place, and I ended up completely losing myself and it was just a shell of myself because I was living somebody else's life. And my girlfriend was like, you need to go on the Bachelor when because we broke up, obviously, because you

need to go on the Bachelor. And I was like, do they even pick Canadians, like Canadians go on that show? And she was like, yeah, they always picked Canadians, and so she filled out all the information for me, kind of sent in my application and they ended up calling

me a year later. So I was on Season nineteen of The Bachelor, and then I become become became season eleven Bachelorette, and then from there I went on to start my podcast Off the Vine, and I started a wine label called Spade and Sparrows, and I have a hair accessory line called Do Edit, and then I ended up winning Dancing with the Stars period that as boss Woman in a nutshell it's actually so crazy to think though, because something like The Bachelor has presented so many opportunities

and like completely changed your life and you're one of like the O G s. I would say, because I feel like now the show was so different. Yes, and just like because I remember watching like I was always an avid fan of the show with my mom. I'd like make her, I'd force her to watch it with me, and I was like way too young to probably even

understand what was going on. Um, but I remember your season, and then I remember a few seasons after, and then obviously with the rise of social media, I feel like

it changed so much. Yes, but I have so many questions about like me just being a super fan, but like really like the old school kind of Bachelor vibe because I feel like now maybe maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like now it's turned into like sometimes people go on for maybe hoping like for this world that some have created after and I think like when you guys all went on it, that was like a genuine like it was a dating show. It really was, Yes,

it was so genuine. I mean I knew that you could make a name for yourself, like I knew some people went on to like, you know, hosting gigs like on E News or whatever, if you know, if that was they chose to go that route. But social media was not um what it is today. And I genuinely went on being like like, if I fall in love, that's great. If I build something from it, that's also great. But social media was not you know, the way of the world that you couldn't build a business or a

platform the way you can now. You couldn't make money off of it. It wasn't like a thing where I went on to the show and I was like, I'm going to get a bunch of Instagram followers, Like that thought never crossed my mind. And I feel like it was on my season where social media really kind of started to blow up with people following people from the show.

So it was a wild experience. Did you feel like when you were off the show just such a big like switch in your world of like walking down the street and having people know you now, And was that like kind of weird to adjust? It was and it wasn't. I don't know why. My parents and my sister and everyone always was like, Caitlin, you were out for this lifestyle. Like so when like my whole life, I thought I was going to be maybe like a backup dancer or do movies or TV with dancing. Like I thought I

was going to do something. Um So when this happened, my whole family was kind of like, yeah, of course you went on the Bachelor. That's so something you would do, that's where And so when it happened, of course it was not normal to walk down the street and have people recognize me. But it was just like the transition was so weird because I would turned from like an extrovert into an introvert. And I think that was the

weirdest transition for me because I was so outgoing. I was always out I was always talking everybody, making new friends, and everyone would have been like Caitlin's the biggest extrovert. And then when I came off the show, it was almost like I enjoyed my personal time and my personal space and I didn't trust anybody, and it was more like that's what changed for me. I actually relate to

that a lot as well. Obviously I wasn't on The Bachelor, but um, I do feel like when like certain parts of life and certain aspects get like a little bit more public, it comp like made me go the opposite yeah, and just want to like keep everything super private and not have like that judgment or whatever it is. It's like, I think it can even be like subconscious sometimes. For sure, I didn't even I didn't even realize I was doing that.

Like a lot of my close friends. We actually had this whole debate one time with Jason, my fiance, was like, oh, Caitlin is such an introvert. And then it was with all of my friends who have known me for so long, and they're like, she's not. She's actually an extrovert, but this situation has made her go inwards, like and we had this whole debate about it because I would have thought after I came off of a TV show, I would have loved like meeting new people and being like,

oh my god, yeah, like take a photo. Yeah. I thought I would be like so comfortable with that. Um. But weirdly, yeah, I went inward and obviously you can understand that, yeah totally. And then you were the bachelorette. How was that experience? So weird? Dating like so many guys at once and having to choose it feels so wrong because you would never do that in the outside world, but you really have to compartmentalize, like, Okay, this is

not the outside world. This is a TV show, So you've got to make TV and you've got to make good TV. Um, but you also are trying to find love, and that is a real thing. And it was you know, I went my whole life not knowing how. You know,

I've never been on a reality TV show before. I've never experienced television, so it was I I went onto The Bachelor like pretty naive, and you know, I didn't understand that producers had to make a TV show, whereas when I was a bachelorette, I was like, okay, like let's make some good TV and let's fall in love.

And that was like the most dangerous combination because I ended up, you know, hurting so many people's feelings and um, losing people's trust and constantly disappointing everybody, and then just ended up being so hard on myself because the thing that I hate the most in life is disappointing people I care about, and that's what I felt like. I just constantly was doing well. People were judging me for it.

But looking back now, I mean, it's been so many years is that I would have said, like, it was hell. It was really honestly hell for me to go through that, But I would do it all over again. And I just think, like, it's like you said earlier, It's gotten me so many opportunities and I feel like I'm just able to live the life that I'm like, I love doing podcasting, I love having a wine label, and I

wouldn't have had that without the show. So um years later, I'm able to look back at it with like, see the positives. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I know, but I feel like, also, that's not really your fault. You did have like literally you had to date all the different guys,

So I mean that's the format of the show. I had fun for the first Yeah, it was fun for the first like a few weeks, because you know, you've got a bunch of good looking dudes and they're all like, oh my god, Caitlin, and they put you on the pedestal. And then after a while you're like, oh, ship, this gets really real. Yeah. Then you actually start to like feel for these people, and like, even if it's not like in an in love way, you're like, well, I still care and I don't want to hurt you because

I'm the same way. I like hate disappointing people. I would I think I've hurt anybody's feelings. I'm like so messed up over it. I feel so bad, So I cannot imagine doing that. And then after Bachelorette time has gone on living life, you end up posting the Double Bachelorette season, right, Yes, that was Yes? How was that? It was that weird? And how did that come about?

And then like, not why you because you're amazing, but did you stay connected with the franchise to that when obviously Chris Harrison had to leave, Like, I'm just so

curious about how that came about. I still am kind of curious about how that all played out, because I keep thinking, like, how did I get Like what turn did I take in life that I was, you know, taking over a role that was such an important role and some and one that had been you know, the role that has been filled for so long by the same consistent person who was so good at his job and everyone knew he was the face of the franchise.

And so it was interesting because I did keep in test with so many people from you know, the show producers or certain people I had like bad blood with because I felt manipulated. Um but you know, we all after time and healing, you can come around and see

that they were just doing their jobs. But um so I kept to touch with certain people and then I kind of was like I felt like maybe even a bit blacklisted from the show after for a while because I was so bitter and I'm a very like honest person who speaks my mind about everything, and I probably said a little too much and they were like, well, don't bite the hand that feeds you, like we'll show you kind of thing. And so it was a bit of like shock like butting heads for a little while

after that. But I think after, you know, after I broke up with my past relationship from the show, I realized how much of a platform that was for me to live a life that I wanted to live and then kind of got back in the good books. And I was so shocked because when they called me to do that, I was like, is it a hosting role?

And are like, we're not really sure what it's gonna look like, like they're kind of trying to figure it out as time goes on, too, so they were like, it's kind of like a mentor role, ummun Tasia would kind of go in and, you know, help with the bachelorette and talk her through some things that only a handful of people that could do, you know, women having conversations that they couldn't have with Chris Harrison. But it's

more of a mentor role, not um not host. And then we got there and we were doing the show and I'm like, well, this is definitely hosting, Like we're doing the final here's the final rows and going in for the certain parts and like tinking the glass to be like okay giving out there. So then the next season,

I was like, Okay, we're hosting. So then I got it in my head that like we could potentially be hosts of the show, and I thought it made so much sense because if I had a woman that was helping me there, that had been in my shoes before, that would have well, I mean, it might have changed everything. So it wasn't a good idea, but I feel like it just would helped mentally so much more to have someone empower you and validate your insecurities and everything that

you're going through. So um, I just kind of had now put my head in the space of like, oh, maybe I could potentially host this, So it was a little sad when they didn't go with us again and Bachelorette, but I get having a consistent host and but yeah, I agree with the heck um no, but that's amazing. You guys did a really great job on that. I'll stop about The Bachelor now because you have so many other things, just super fan. We obviously both did Dancing

with the Stars. You won Dancing with the Stars, which is so exciting and I feel like a lot of people unless you've been on the show. And I was talking about this recently with some buddy who was at a dinner with me and we had like started talking randomly and she was like, I had a Dancing with the Stars and like randomly came up, and I was like, people don't understand how tiring that show is and how much work goes into it and you want it. It

is literally the definition of blood, sweat and tears. Like you put everything into it mentally, physically, emotionally. It's so draining and so much work and so many hours of your day. Like people really don't know until there unless they've been on the show, Like how much work you put into it, and I just remember, like in the last three weeks of it, I was like, send me home, I can't do this anymore. But you know, I'm I would be like with then I'd get on the dance

floor and be like, I can't go home. But like my ribs were injured, my ankle was injured. I was just like in pain the whole time. And I just like had that mentality of like you just gotta get to another day and then the next decade, and you just got to get through another day. But yeah, and you did so great on the show. You were one of our favorites. You're so sweet. Thank you. I was so nervous because I've never danced before, so I was like, I don't know if this show, if this could be,

this could do the exact opposite. I want people to like see my personality, but like what if I had just come across and it's so embarrassing and I can't dance. But I honestly had so much fun doing it that I like made it worth it. But you know what's funny too, I remember, like you know how they make you do those interviews after like every probably twice a week, or something where you go in and then you sit there for hours and then you leave and then you

go back to practice or whatever it was. I missed one of them one time, my agents calling me like where are you. They're all like they have to leave whatever, and I just remember like sobbing on my bed. I was so stressed. I was like, no, I can't do it,

like I'm tired, and it's brutal. It really is. It really is a brutal process that's obviously like you get so much out of it, and then when it's just finished and then you go home, you're like, it was such a whirlwind and it changes your whole life in perspective, and you like feel like you've accomplished so much, and then it just ends so abruptly and then you're like what just happened? And then literally would would never do

something like that again. But then you miss you know, your partner and everybody around and the Monday nights it's so far you partners with again Artom Artom right, he's so lovely. And then when you when you were going on tour, where you like hesitant at all or was it just like I'm down zero hesitation? I because because

of my passion for dance my whole life. I was like, if you told me I was going to tour on a tour bus, dancing with professionals, like in different cities on a bus, I was like, this is a dream come true. So um yeah, zero hesitation. I was like, sign me up, I'll do the whole tour. How was the tour because you got to be with like 'm On and Amanda and some people from my season who I adore. Also, how funny is them? On? He is He's one of my favorite people I've ever come across

my whole life. Here just the happiest, funniest, most chill, laid back, coolest, Like I just we ended up bonding so much because we were always backstage, like not in all of the dances, so we would learn the choreography together backstage and like do hilarious versions of the show. But yeah, it was so fun being on tour. I truly thought it would be way harder than it was. I thought, you know, being away, um on a bus, sleeping on a bus every night, trying to podcast and

run my business as while being on the road. Like it was hard. Of course, don't get me wrong, but I loved every second of it so much because I got along so well with everybody and there was no drama and it was just surprisingly like easy and and fun and we just like bonded. It felt like family. And um, I missed the bus nights so much, not the sleeping part, but like the bonding, game nights, drinking wine,

all those kinds of things. Yeah, I feel like also with at least with my season, and I'm sure it's similar to you as well, Like you get so close with everybody on the show at the time, just because like everybody feels like they really understand what each one is going through, and like, I feel so lucky with the people I had on my season because I'm like somewhere like posing age with me, and then some were

just like such great mentors to have around. And then we had like me Laura, who was like mom figure to me, and then like a mom who I would like just hang with most of my time. And then I had Jokeo, who was like a little sister, adorable, fun to be around. So you did have a good season of people. I remember being like, oh, that looks like fun, and everybody like what's crazy is it's so competitive, but everybody's also rooting for each other because you know,

like you said, what you're going through. And so it's such a unique atmosphere because I'm the most competitive person going like I need to check myself even in my relationship sometimes because I'm so competitive. And so for me it was so interesting because I was like, Wow, I'm really like rooting for the people that are up against me. And it's because you you do. You just understand what

you're going through and it becomes a family. But I will say our season was so different from any other one because ours was right like covid D and we couldn't even hang out with each other, like it was nuts. Yeah, I think ours we were supposed to not hang out with one another and they would like try and be strict. But I think also by that time it was kind of like a free for all um, so it kind of worked out. But when you were on tour, was it hard being away from obviously like Jason and I

saw you have two dogs. Yes, oh my gosh, they're right now. It was really hard to be away from them. But this is not really a good thing. But I was prepped for it because of filming back to back Bachelor at seasons and from being Dancing with the Stars, Like we were kind of in this mentality that we're like, oh, we get to miss each other and we'll like you know. But but that being said, it was actually really hard.

And we're supposed to be planning a wedding and when I came back, he was gone on a book tour and we've kind of been like, gosh, we need to reconnect because we want to plan this wedding and we are so disconnected from being apart and being so busy that now that I mean, he's coming home tonight from New York and we're like, let's just like sit down and talk because we have not been able to do that.

So it's also like so hard I feel like in a relationship too, because it's so much about like spending that quality time and like keeping the romance alive. Yeah, no, that that went out the window for us because we were just both so busy and then realized how important that quality time is and and needing to make up for lost time because when we got back it was like, wait, like what have you been doing and what's going Like he would come to you know, a couple of cities.

But it's just it's really hard. Relationships are hard in general, and when you're doing long distance and both have your own careers and trying to plan a wedding, like it's relationships are so hard totally. And he was a part of Bachelor franchise as well. Yeah, yes, but he was on somebody else's season before, Yes, I remember correctly. So

he was on Beca Koufran's season. I remember that, yes, And it was so funny because of of course I had this three and a half year engagement from the show, and that is pretty like crazy for you know, usually at that point people will stay together because it's been three and a half years and usually you know by

that point. But um, so when we broke up, I was like, never again while I date somebody in the Bachelor franchise, Like I didn't even want to date anyone that was like I had anything to do with social media or wanted to some normal dude. I was like, I thought it was so hot if people in Evans. Instagram was like hot. Um. And then I interviewed him on my podcast and I was like, ship, he's cute.

That's really connected. Was an interview yeah. Yeah. I went out to Seattle to visit a friend, um, and I was like, who's in Seattle that I could interview from like bachelor franchise, And there was a couple of people and Jason was one of them, and so I rented a studio and he came to the studio and that's when we met. Was through the podcast. Oh that's so cute, and you got to be in person, which is nice.

Obviously I was going to say, you did this over zoom and you knew that's wild pre pandemic when things were normal. So that's how you guys met. And then was it instant like you guys posting and just like announcing you together? Was it like the secret let's run around a little bit, figure it out. I'm such an open book and he's a little bit more on the

secretive side. Um. So that was tricky because I also was dealing with the outside world thinking I was moving on too fast, because they thought I just jumped from like an engagement with Sean to this relationship with Jason, when really my relationship with Sean had been struggling for so long. And then you don't expect, you know, you find people when you least expect it, and that's definitely

what happened. But we were like kind of just like got to a point where people would take photos of us or see us or we were out and we were just like, why are we hiding anything? It wasn't it wasn't like an instant connection when we met, because I was going through a hard time, Like I was still sad, wasn't looking um. But he walked out of the podcast. So I've told the story million times, but of course you don't know this stuff. Um. He walked out of my podcast, called his mom and he was like,

I just met my future wife. And I walked out of the podcast, and I was like, they need to make that guy the bachelor. And just like my brain was not in that, you know, zone to feel anything towards him. So we just like we kind of work like I friend zoned him so hard, like he would be like, gosh, you're such a bro. And I was just such a brow with him for so long to the point where we like we talked all the time, and then it just kind of turned into what it

what it is. I feel like those are the best ones too, though, when you actually get to know somebody slowly without it being like okay, like let's just see where it happens or whatever it is, like that's it was nice the best way to do it, at least in like past relationships I've been in when I'm like, when I date somebody, like after like a week of

knowing them, I'm like, this is not gonna work. Yeah, that's usually like the falling and lust when it just happens all too fast and then it ends in disaster. I've been there too for sure. Um, Okay, So wedding plans, yes, you know not do you want to do it in l a like destination back home? We want to do it in Nashville. We don't have a date. We've reached out to three different venues and we are trying to pick a date because that's what you do. That's usually

the next step, and we have a wedding planner. Um. But again it's just like we are we need to get back on the same page because we have not done anything. And it's like, of course that's what people want to know, and of course we want to have answers when people ask us how wedding planning is going. But it's so hard when we're in the positions that

we're in. Even with the wedding planner, I thought it would be easy, breezy because we signed a wedding planner and I thought he would just be like, Okay, do this, here's this that's gonna go here, You're gonna do this. But it's so much more than that, and I want, yeah, that's something, Jason, I need to really sit down. It's back from New York. Yeah, yeah, that's what we said. Like, but that's so funny because we're like, oh, we'll do

it in Mexico. We're you know, in too Loom. It's such a vibe, or we can like sit down and you know, do some stuff. No, we were. We had an itinerary from our friend. It was back to back, like his birthday, going out doing this, and then I got back, and then we got back. He goes to New York and we're like, this is just really make this happen. I feel like that probably takes so much work.

And I also feel like it's hard too, because maybe this is just like stereotypical for me to say, but I feel like for like women are normally the ones that are like really trying to plan it, not trying to plan it, but like maybe I just think we're more responsible and honor ship and so we'll be like we're gonna get this done. That's exactly right. But Jason's that one in the relationship. I'm not a planner, Like I'm actually terrible at planning things or just anything, like

I get overwhelmed so easily. But Jason's usually the one that's a little bit more of the planner. And I think I kind of relied on that where he was relying on the wedding planner and then I was relying on the two of them, and it just got lost. Um. But yeah, women are usually you know there, we are multitaskers to the maximum and usually can have all at

all and know how we want things done. Well. Also, you're handling like twenty other different things, and I want to talk about them, so your podcast, can you tell them a little bit about it and what it's about. Yes, it's my favorite thing that I mean, no wine is too. I I love doing a podcast because I just love

connecting with people. And like I always say, you never have like a real authentic conversation with people anymore where there's no phones, where you're just in the zone for one hour talking about things that are important or feelings or you know, feeling like you can laugh or cry or just have this safe place where other people can relate to. So I started the podcast. Gosh, it's like five years ago now, I feel like I should look into that. It's either four years I think it was

five years ago I started. Oh, so you were kind of starting like before this was a thing. Yeah, I remember being like, what is this all about? Like what is the podcast? I always when I was little wanted a radio show that was like another secret little dream of mine, and I'd interview my family and I'd have this like I'd always love being on a microphone and

asking people questions. And so when podcasting, that's I was like, what an interesting time to get into podcasting, Like I think this is gonna be a thing, And so I started it. It's called Off the Vine, and um, basically everyone who knows me knows I just love a glass of wine. I love socializing with like close friends or having nice conversation over a glass of wine. I spill

like not not t like it's not gossipy. It's like like I'll tell embarrassing stories about anything, like I just people are like, why do you share so much information? And I'm like, it's just who I was. Yeah. So it's basically I'll have guests on anyone from like reality

TV or influencers or UM country music artist. Because I live in Nashville, I've had a lot of them on and we basically just have a glass of wine or not if it's ten in the morning, I'm not going to make them drink and have real conversation about like either hardships or how they got to where they are in their career and um, like how they've learned lessons in life from going through heartbreak or you know, and pretty I mean, of course, promoting whatever they have going on.

It's usually just forty five minutes to an hour of just real conversation, and I make my guests always confess something to me. So usually there's an embarrassing story in there, a game we play, and it's basically I just like people walking away from the podcast being like, whoa I just escaped for forty five minutes and like can't stop smiling, or like feeling like I like to empower women to just be so authentic to themselves and go after what

they want to go after. Yeah, it's so fun. That's amazing because I feel like, for me, I started my podcast kind of recently and I'm still like very much trying to figure it out. Oh, you're doing great, by the way, Thanks. You're really easy to talk to, so it's not like challenging, but I also want to know

you're doing great. Yeah. I also want to just like get a little bit more comfortable with it, I think still, because it can be so it can just be like so awkward, I feel like for me at least, and then I'm was afraid of saying the wrong thing. Yeah, you gotta let that go though, because do you mean

to the guest or like able to hear? Well, if I say the wrong thing to the guests, I'm pretty quick to clear it up, like it's fine, But I'm I'm more afraid of like everything I say getting like picked up somewhere and then like just one sentence of what I say is like in the news and then everybody's like this, girl, you kind of got to surrender to that. You gotta surrender to that because it's gonna happen regardless, and that will get more people to listen

to your podcasts, and it sucks. Like there's so many times where I see a headline from the podcast or like somebody's upset with me because from my podcast it's been a headline and I'm like, I have no control over that, and if anything like that will make and and a lot of people do. It sucks because a lot of people just read headlines or um just see something. They don't read the full article or listen to the whole podcast. So you kind of just gotta like brace

yourself because those things will happen. But also you'll like connect with so many great people and you'll work out the kinks and you'll like get your you'll find your groove where you're just like you're already really and I'm not just saying this, Like you're natural at asking questions and like transitioning into the next one. So I feel like you're going to be good. Thank you so much. Speaking of transitioning wine company, I'm obsessed with wine as well.

How did you start that? Oh my gosh, well, what kind of wine do you drink? Red one? I mean, I like all wine, like if I'm in the day or like buy a pool or something I'm probably gonna have like white wine or rose, but at night I probably am going to be drinking red. That's the exact same. It's a glass of tequila, same tequila and wine or like my jam that I'm a little tequila doubt from Mexico, but not really but not really give yourself like forty

eight hours you'll be back. Yeah, the wine was actually way harder than I thought. It was good because I think from coming off the show and getting opportunities or brand deals, like some of them will just you know, come to you and they'll you know, you don't have to prove yourself. You just put your name on something

and hopefully you believe in it. I'm very I've turned down so much money and I hate saying that out loud because it sounds so stupid and cocky, but I've turned down so much money just to like align myself with the right products or things that I actually believe in. And so from doing that, I was like, gosh, it makes so much sense for me to start my own

wine label. I don't want to slap my name on somebody else's wine, and like, I want to put in the work and I want it to be mine, and I thought it would be easier, but um, I luckily have a really incredible team. I have two business partners that have really helped with like the logistics of things. Um, but I got to go out to Napa. I got to try so many different wines and create the one I want, like different percentages of like a cab franc

or like a cab. I actually got to like measure and put in and make my own what I love to drink. And so that was a really fun process, even though I didn't use the spit bucket and I got way too drunk the first night and yeah, I was like so hammered, and I was like I love it, this is the wine. And then the next day we got all excited we opened it to have it with dinner,

and I was like, this is disgusting. I was just like wasted and thought anything at that point would have been like yeah, yeah, So I had to start all over. But yeah, it's really hard because in this in that industry, you do have to prove yourself, especially as a it's a very like it's a man's world. The wine industry.

I don't know. The alcohol business is just it it is, and there you said there's like a slogan in the wine world that like, um, make the make the wine for men and the women will follow something like that, And I was like you, and so I wanted to like, yeah, exactly. I wanted to just flip that on its head and come up with us like boss ass, like feminine and wine brand that you know, guys will enjoy drinking, women

will enjoy drinking. Anyone can enjoy it. And but like without the rules, like I don't care if you pair it with you know, filet or whatever, like pair it with chips, I don't care. I just wanted to be like not snobby and really fun. And um, I had to really prove myself in the industry because there's been a lot of celebrity wines quote unquote um that have not worked. So I've worked really hard at it and it's I love it. It's actually the wine I like

choose to drink at night. It's not just like like that's amazing, y. Yeah, yeah, I'll have to send you something. Yes, I would love somewhere is it being sold so you can get it at Spade and Sparrows dot com. Um, there's a lot of like in California, it's in over a hundred seventy five walmarts. Yeah, we're working really hard to get it in targets right now. Some states has it in retail. Um, A lot of places in Canada

have it in retail. But overall, um, you can buy it online, which is it's It's tough because online obviously you have to pay for shipping. So I always encourage people. I'm like, don't just buy one bottle. Are you're gonna pay the same amount of you know, for the shipping that it is for one bottle. You buy six bottles, only gets better and then you only pay the twenty dollars for shipping. Yeah, there you go. That's actually that

makes perfect logic. Um true or false? If your wine label gets into Target, is it true that you're going to get a Target tattoo? True? How could they say no? I will literally be a walking brand of Target. I like the red dot on the forehead. I mean maybe not so much. I'm so spontaneous with stuff like this, Like I just went today. It's actually hurting so bad. I just sar this pierced right here. See, Like I'm I really want more piercings because all mine on my

ears closed up. But I'm like, oh, like the sleeping on my head and I sleep like this, Okay, see I sleep on my side and I can't do it any other way. And I think, also, that's not great for you anyway. But I that's like why I'm hesitant to get piercings, because I think about my sleep. That's fair enough. Nobody likes their sleep, Like Caitlin Bristo, I love sleep. It like it's I need nine hours to function to my day. But I'm very like, I'm just

spontaneous with tattoos, Like do you have tattoos? Yeah, I've got a spade and then I've got sparrows in the back of my arm. Cute. So it all aligns with like what you're passionate about and your business names and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, there's always a story behind everything. And then I have like tear drops. Look at this tear drops, So I go, oh, that's so cute. I

just have a bunch of random tattoos everywhere. And like in Mexico, not the strip, but the one before I had too much tequila, I got a diamond tattooed on me. Like I don't even well then I was like, oh, look, diamonds are a Girl's best friend. That's the song I won the Mirrorball to. Okay has meaning, so it all

makes sense. Um, so yeah, with the Target, if my wine gets into Target, I was like, I will one thousand percent get like a dainty little like like Target circle, like black and white or something like, I'm not going to do a big red stamp, so no, I would know if they got it in, I would be so proud. I'll do anything. Walmart's like, what the hell, why haven't you got a Walmart tattoo? It's so funny. This is such a random This is actually has nothing to do

with wine, but had something to do with Target. I remember when I was young and my dad had a clothing line that was in Target. I think like before Target was really like um like it was like I was really young, and I remember always walking like through Target and seeing his name and it's such a bizarre name that I never really understood. Like I would be like, it's so weird. My dad's name is like the store, like,

what's going on? This is so funny? And then like when I got older, they were like that was what was your dad's clothing line Masimo what Yeah, but I never knew that clothing line. His name is Bosomo. I did not know that. Oh that's crazy and not funny. But I remember like seeing that and being like, this is really bizarre that this name's and target, Like what are the odds somebody else's name? It's my awesome out there is that? No idea that's so funny? You found

that bizarre? But weren't like my mom is on full House, Like wasn't that a crazy thing? I also didn't understand that. Well, I feel like my mom always really like I still have no idea how Full House was a big show or not. I'm so confused. Yeah, because well I kind of know now a little bit. But it was just because when Fuller House came out, Um, I was on YouTube.

I had like started my YouTube channel, and I was like really into like I knew like all the little behind the scenes of like how many views and how quick views are and if it's up for two hours and it has over two views, that's like really great

or whatever it was. And so when the Fuller House trailer came out, I was older, um, and I saw how many views it was getting and I like remember going into my mom's room and being like it was full house of big show, Like why does this have like over like fourteen million views in a day, Like I don't understand. Oh my gosh, I loved just your mom was. I would have been like I and Antie bet she was my life, like my growing up every day that that was my favorite show ever. And I

still watch it just to like feel like nostalgic. Yeah, like I I've seen a few episodes as I've grown up a little bit. I remember when I was young, I was like, I don't want to watch my mom kissed John Stamos, which is just so dumb amazing. So I was like really weird about it. But I feel like she, I feel like she genuinely believes like it was like not not that crazy of a show because

she or she's just like extremely humble. I have no idea she must be, because that was like, if you asked me, that was like the biggest show that was everyone watched full House, and it was like back when everyone watched cable, like nobody was on YouTube or neflicks or anything like. That was the show for sure. Oh yeah, way back in the day. But yeah, that's why I dyed my hair red. I love to see you and it makes sense. I was like, I have no idea.

I've never died my hair before, and if I'm going to change the color, maybe I'll change it to like somebody in my family that had similar hair when they were my age. It makes sense. Um, I'm not going to keep you for too long and take up all your time, but even though I can literally talk to you for hours, But what's upcoming? Anything you have next?

Um plan that you want to share? Um? I always dropped new edits for my hair accessory line, so it's called do edit D E W E D I T and that's on Instagram, and we do so many fun drops. So we do usually one in like spring, summer, fall, winter, and we just did a Bachelor at party one where it's like all neon and we did veils and like really fun Bachelor at party stuff. And then the next one I'm not even allowed. I don't know if I'm allowed to say it, but whatever, Um, it's gonna be

like a full Bridle edit. So um, I usually just do fun things that I have going on, and then like we're going to do a pride one, and we just are always doing something new with it, which is so much fun. And then truly, I just I want everyone to be in my wine club because you can. So you can be in the wine club and get a certain amount of bottles and you end up getting free shipping if you're in the wine club. I'll join

your wine club, do I just find on mine. I'm sending you the wine, um, but you should be our guests on the next wine club. We do zoom parties all the time, like every three months, and people come in and if they you know, are in the wine club, they get to come hang out and do zooms and we make either cocktails or we have a special guest on and some so fun. So yeah, I hope to just you know, do that and hope wedding planning is gonna next time I talk to you. Hopefully I have

way more to say than that. Exactly. Well, thank you so much for coming on. You're a gem and you're doing so much and I know like people listening are going to feel really inspired by this, because I feel like sometimes as a woman, it's overwhelming and it's scary to put yourself in so many different fields and You're just a perfect example of doing it and crushing it. So my favorite motto is do it scared. You can want to do anything and be scared, but like, do

it scared. So what if you're scared? So what if you also if it doesn't work, Just do it scared. And thank you so much for having me on. You are also a gem and I thought maybe you had this podcast for a while because you're doing really great. Thank you so much. You're the best. Enjoy the rest of your day having me you tears my baby m hm