Conversations with Aurora Culpo

with that all being said, please welcome Alora. Hello, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I'm so excited to have you. Thank you for having me. Course, So do you want to like just kind of intro yourself a little bit. I know you're from Rhode Island. I did my research a little bit, and you have two babies, right have two babies. One of them is currently screaming in her crib, and I like have like that like mom guilt in my heart right now. But it's good for her to like learn how to put

herself to sleep. She should know how to do that. She's just eighteen months now. But anyway. Yeah, so this question is so funny because it's like I was I feel like I practiced this question of like who are you and it's like, oh my god, how much time do you have? Like so like so originally I am from Rhode Island. I was in UM the education industry for a long time. I have master's degree in early childhood education. I was a teacher that I worked with

kids with autism. UM. I was a behavior analyst, so I learned a lot about how to like shape behavior, which is funny because now I'm a mom of two kids and like, I use none of that. I don't ever apply anything that I've learned, and I know to be true UM with my own kids. You know, like they scream and I give them a lollipop, Like you don't do that. But sometimes it's just like survival. But um. Yeah,

so I moved to UM. I moved to l A because I met my husband and now we have two kids, and I kind of like fell into this UM this like influencer role that I don't know. I'm like still kind of embarrassed you, like I'm an influencer. I feel like it's gotten a bad rap even though I do feel like there's something I really enjoy connecting with people.

And I tend to be a little like t M I about mom life and mental health and I'm a wellness guru, but I'm also like a complete yo yo where I'll just like party hard and then be like I'm only drinking green juice, you know that last three days. But but so yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of characters I've played. I was a yoga instructor, I'm into meditation. I read that online. I was like, because you know, you never know what you're reading if

it's true or not. And I saw that said something about fitness and how you're really into yoga, and I was like writing it down, I was like, I wonder if this is even true. If I'm gonna ask this question just because like is it true now? Now? I

do you. I still do yoga all the time, and I find it to be one of the things that really grounds me in my life, um you know, crazy times, and especially you know, like just making yourself vulnerable to all the opinions of other people on the internet, like that you need to really have not even have thick skin, but just like have a heightened sense of like awareness of like your own worth. And so for me, like my grounding is is really like physical, like I I

go to yoga, I do my workouts. Um, but I also have two sisters and I'm super close with and we do a lot of um work together. Like we have a lot of exciting things coming up that I've been I'm not allowed to talk about right now, which is like my management is like always nervous getting me on podcasts because well, I'm just like I am, I'm like t M I but but yeah, so so we're creating. We have a lot of things going on together as sisters.

But then individually, I'm I'm starting a website. Um, I'm a writer, so I'm writing a lot about just like basically mom acts, personal struggles with like postpartum anxiety and depression and things. Just I don't like to call myself an expert in anything, but I'm I'm an expert in being honest and sharing personal experiences, which I feel like

helps so much more than you even realize. Because for me too, it's like all like be on this podcast and have certain guests and then I walk away, or if a YouTube video goes up and I'm like, is that boring to people? Even like that? And then the response of you just being like open and honest can help, even if it's just a few young girls or moms going through something similar or something like that. It's like it's crazy how much of an impact it can actually

have and you don't even realize it. I know. It's like I think I'm a little like hard on myself and like just like that question like who are you and what do you do? I'm like, what do I say? Like what do you am? I what do I do? Like a lot of people, it's easy for them because it's like I'm like, I'm a talent manager. I mean this,

I mean that. But it's like when you kind of wear a lot of different hats and you and your thing is just being open and being like like a source for other people to kind of like to learn from your mistakes and things you've done. Like doesn't really have a title, like not traditional, especially now with social media, it's like so normal, Like to me, I think of it like influencers, like a category. Obviously, I agree, I think that word has been I think not even just

like I don't think it's bad. I just think it's overused to the point where it's like what are you influencing? I guess, and like what's your purpose? And then it is it just to like I was talking about this with somebody recently, I'm like, I love I love what I do and I started my YouTube when I was so young and I enjoy it so much. But also it's like there's a level of embarrassment now where I'm like, am I just do people just think I'm doing this

because I want like followers in an easy job? Or do people see that this is something I'm passionate about, right, But like like, oh you it sounds it seems like you're doing this for attention, Like that's something like I've heard before two or like you know I've gotten in my d M s And it's like, yeah, you do.

Like as a human being, like we seek connection with other people who seek to be seen and to be like heard and validated, and especially if like you feel like earlier in your life and your childhood, maybe weren't always seen for who you were. Like to have a platform, to be able to to be to see yourself, to have other people see themselves in you, and to feel like you've made a positive impact on people. I feel like that's like it's been hugely like healing for me

in a lot of ways. And also it's been a huge growth experience. Like what I've learned is like you don't need to be an expert in order to like speak on a topic. You know, so and do you think like because you're both your sisters. I know Olivia just from like years of just like going out and seeing her around and she's lovelier. And then you have another sister too, So yeah, is that correct? Do they? I know Olivia influences or whatever we're want to call it,

but not like you to call her that. Wait, yeah, I take it back, Olivia. I'm so sorry. But does

Sophia also do Instagram and that whole vibe? She's funny, Like we we make fun of her all the time because she kind of like she went to she has a degree for Boston University in nutrition and public health, and then she kind of was like, you know, I don't know, I don't know what your experience was like after you after college or whatever, but when for me it was like you you think you're going to graduate and get like a great jobs, like no, you're living

in Squalor. For a lot of that was my experience. You're just like trying to figure out what you want to do, and you're just like still heavily relying on my parents. At least I was. But for Sophie, we make fun of her because she like she literally walked out of college and then was like, oh, I'm gonna go live with Olivia. Actually, like she's got a good thing going on over there. She's just like completely writing

out her coattails. But it's like work smart, you have to do you do you You take advantage of the cards that you have that you're dealt and if you don't, then you're stupid, you know. And it's not like it's

been easy for her. It's like just as hard to try to make something for yourself when you feel like you have something already set in stone, like for for for me and Sophie, it's been a little bit like of a an interesting situation because Olivia has been established and she's done a lot, you know, like cover Sports, Illustrated all that, and it's like I hate when people are like, oh, you're Olivia's sister, right, It's like, no, actually, she's my sister. I'm older and she is the way

she is. That's how my sister feels to like exactly, if anybody ever says to my sister if we're out of like an event or a party, like oh you're Olivia's ironically same name, but like, oh you're Olivia's sister, She's like, my name is Bella and it's really nice to meet you. But I relate to that too, just having like a mom that's an actress, like growing up and every every thing that's ever written about me or whatever.

It's like Lorie Laughlin's daughter, which I get, which is a fact, sure, but also it's like you do want to be recognized for your own, your own thing and like being your own person. I thought it was so interesting too. I was justin, this is so random. But I was just in Paris for fashion week and I was at a party and somebody introduced their friend and the person they were introducing me to has a very famous dad, and they were like, this is so and so son, and I literally looked at them and I

was like, what's his name? Like why do you like that? If somebody did that to me, I know, And the thing is it's like, yes, we've all gotten. Everybody who's created any success for themselves has had certain strikes of luck or like a leg up in one way, and it's like you either hop on that opportunity and create something for yourself out of it, or you can be like, oh, you know that's you can shy away from it and

like either you there is fine. But I just I have a problem with people being like, oh, she's only she's only she only has followers because of her sister, or she on her parents are famous, that's why she like blah blah blah, because it's like, if you haven't noticed, not all famous people have like famous siblings or not everybody whose parents are famous like they've made something out

of that. A lot of people actually have. It's, if anything, it's been like a hindrance to them because they don't really even know like how to create something for themselves because they feel like they only can think of the mold that was already set for them. Yeah, yeah, I

really see what you're saying. It's interesting too, because it's such a touchy subject because you don't want to, like, at least for me, I get nervous talking about anything to do with that, because I'm like, I don't want people to think that I'm not recognizing that I definitely was born in a life where I'm already like a

thousand steps in front. I can recognize that. But then it's like when people go on to say kind of what we're talking about just or anything in that realm, I'm like, I almost feel like it d like devalues what I've like tried to build by myself when I was like a young kid fourteen starting a YouTube. And it's like I get it, Like I definitely have immense privilege that's like taking me very far. But also it's not It's like it took work. It's not just because

I was born. And there's a difference between like recognizing that and its value and and and using it as a way to like further your own ambitions. And then and then you know, on the flip side, you could be like ashamed of it or or you could like feeling shame about anything is just not productive and it's not helpful to anybody. So yeah, I'm I'm I'm on your wavelength with that. Yeah, for sure, are you the oldest of all siblings? Are just the girls I'm the

oldest girl. But we have five in our family and um and where it's an Italian family, it's so like if you know any I think you're Italians. Yeah, so it's like the but you only have a sister, so you don't have brothers. You do have a brother. See this is what happens. Like I only knew about you and your sister and I also have like other siblings too, But it's like we're the only ones who have taken advantage of this kind of life because this is like

what we wanted to do. Not everybody wants to do that. Like my brothers are musicians. They're super talented, but they're not really interested in like putting their life on the internet for people to be like say anything they wanted about, Like not everybody. He's super private. Yeah. Well, I don't know if you have the same dynamic in your family.

But in my family, the girl is like the is in charge, Like she it's responsible for everybody, and like we're the connectors, Like we're the ones being the Thanksgiving plans. We're the ones like making sure everybody's doing what they should be doing, getting mom a Valentine. My brothers are just like so basically, long story short, I do feel like I'm the oldest brother and you're really you're working

on stuff with your sisters. Obviously you just said you can't go into that, but I grew up with a sister that's really close in age, and I'm super super close with What was that like growing up for you guys? And then who was like the first to get into what category? Like give me a little give me a little tea on the family. It's a funny. It's a really funny story. Um we So Olivia started modeling in college and then she like randomly, um uh, tried out

for MS Rhode Island. And my family is like, they're classical musicians, like they're kind of like, I mean, they're gonna be Madmie for sing this, but like elitists, like they just you know, they're like, oh no, just pageants were cheesy to them, Like like my parents. My mom was mortified. So she tried out. She ended up winning it, and then she ended up winning Miss USA, and then she ended up um winning um Miss Universe, and we were all kind of like, uh, what like just happened here?

So that was a world win for my family, but for me personally. It was like, you know, I was still I was like getting my master's degree, and I was not making any money. I was living at home with my parents. I just gotten out of a bad relationship, and here's my sister like crushing it at life, like

three years younger than me. And and you know, it took like a few years of our relationship just like going through trials where like I was having to really learn, like not to compare where I am in life to where she is in life, and not to compare like each of our vale use based on like like there was a time I'd be like, well, that's stupid. I don't even like she's she's oh she's promoting like lipstick on Instagram. I don't care, like I'm saving, I'm doing

God's work over here, you know. And then and then and and then, like our dynamic changed a lot, and I started to realize that I don't know if our dynamic change or that if I just realized that, like it doesn't feel good to feel like someone else's gain is like you're lost, you know. And when it comes to shove, like there's nobody in the world that I would rather have something amazing, like that happened to and then my sister like, what would I prefer somebody else

to have one? No? And yes, she did win those three competitions, and that definitely gave her a leg up, which you could say is lucky. You could be like, oh, well she was born with a pretty face, or she heard her question well or something. But what it really comes down to is that she manifested it for herself. She believed in it for herself, and she works really hard to this day. She's like one of those people who like does the work. She actually just recommends a

book to me called do the Work. I think it's like an audible book. Um, but she's the person who's journaling every day, and it's like and looking at at old journals from years ago seeing that like what she wrote then has like come true for her, you know, big and manifesting. I think that's huge, honestly, Like I know that. I know for some people they think that's absolute craziness. And I've been trying to journal like a

little bit more, just write down like goals. A friend of mine gave me this notebook recently that like is all lined out for you and then you write and like this is what I want to do this year, and then you go back at the end of the year and I probably haven't. I'm just trying to do all of it, but I'm just like I lack motivation in it because I'm like does this even work? Like what's going on? And you're like fighting with yourself to

try and get it done. But once you do it, it actually just feels really good to like sometimes just like vent on a piece of paper and just like

let everything out. And then also I do think that like, like I remember when I was really really young, like probably seventeen or eighteen, there was a big chalkboard in my house and I had written like the letters s C on it and it was for Sephora Collection, and I like really wanted to like I had been working with them like a little bit when I was younger.

And then I remember like a year later, it was like somebody had erase the chalkboard, but it was like very faded out, and I was walking down the stairs to go to school one day and I had gotten a call from my agent like Sephora p how it wants to do or Sapphora Collection wants to a pallette with you and I was walking down the stairs, I got this call like looking at the faded like sc mark, and I was like, that's so weird. So I do

believe it in a sense, yeah totally. And like while you and I might not be like the journaling type, even though like I don't know, I do feel like I need to try that out. I'm just like, for some reason, I can't get myself to do that. But even like doing something like this, like a podcast and just like speaking about things and like just like it's kind of like your any different you know, like you're

you're talking about different subjects. You're talking about what you hope, your hopes and your dreams and all that, and just like the words we speak and putting them out into the universe, I also feel or just they have a very very powerful myself being like, oh I don't know I am. It's like no, I know, yeah, everything you're just speaking into like the way you talk about yourself, it does go really far. But I'm the same because even when people ask like what do you do, I'm like,

what do I do? And then if I tell you what I do, it's going to sound really lame because I feel myself in my bedroom by myself talking and it's like super super lame. Um. But anyway, you're in like full mom mode on Instagram too, Like is that what the main content is that, like your main type of content you produce or yeah, I mean it definitely.

That's kind of how I accidentally fell into the influencer world because I had I had my son and I was just like holy, like nobody talks about this, Like is anybody else like not able to sit down after you give birth? Like what are hemorrhoids? What are like all these things that people are like, you know, just like embarrassed to talk about. And like I've kind of marketed myself as that person that's like approachable and we'll

tell the truth. And and that has been like a double edged sword for me because I'm the person who is like in my d M s responding to everybody getting myself into trouble. Like I'm like, I'm surprised to let me do a podcast without my sisters because they'll usually be like kicking me under the table to be like shut up say that word, like you're gonna get you're gonna get canceled. I'm always like on the verge of getting cans. I would never let you get canceled

from me. It sucks. I won't let anybody next to me or around me get canceled. I've had a lot of experience being kind of unfiltered on Instagram and it's it's gotten me in trouble um just because uh, I'm a little impulsive with the way I talk. I respond to basically all I'm like, you know, I'm in a fight with Tim from Ohio that I've never like, why do you read? You're like just don't answer them, and I'm just like I've got to get talk to like

I need to talk to this person. And because you're human, yeah,

I know I need to be better about that. But what when when my manager was like, do you wanna do you want to go on Olivia Jade's podcast, And I was like, I would love too, because I feel like what i've from what I've seen from you is like such a resilient person, like not everybody like I've I was like doing my research and like you know, I'll see I'll see like just trolls like saying just stupid things, and it's like it takes everything in me not to respond to them, but it's like the fact

that you're able to rebuild after like people have just said such horrible, stupid things. It's like not everybody has that, like and that is something that has nothing to do with like coming from famous parents. That's like something that that's like grit, that's like an internal strength that not everybody has. Thank you so much for saying that. I really appreciate it. I feel like it's so much like

for me too. It's I like try and put on like a like a brave front, you know, or like a strong not even brave, but just like a strong friend of like oh yeah, I'm unbothered by this or whatever. But it is so true, like kind of what you're saying. When you want to respond to all those trolls and haters or people that just don't know you, I want to say something that's like intentionally gonna make you upset.

It's so hard sometimes to like really just ignore it because also I'm like I don't know much about signs, but apparently this is what I've been told because I'm a libra that you want everyone to like you, which I think is a really true thing about me. It's like I always I'm like, like my sister is complete opposite, Like she's so fine if nobody like with her, she doesn't care. She's like I'm my own person, Like she's

uniquely sarcastic, She's just her own vibe. And for me, I'm like always trying to people please and I want people to like me, and if somebody doesn't like me, then I want convince you to like me. So it's like such a test the last few years of obviously feeling so hated by like literally everybody, that I was like, this is just not, this is not I don't think this is meant for my brain, Like I I need

people to like me. And the fact that I feel so misunderstood by so many people, and like the media and the way that they can like twist things and

all this stuff is just so crazy. Like I'm glad that to the outside it seems like I'm resilient, but it's like in my I'm a firm believer to that, like you're never given anything that you can't handle, and like all the situations that have happened to all of us, like like there their opportunities for us to like evolve as people and to like become better versions of ourselves.

And you can either take that opportunity to like go in one direction and not make any progress, or you can take it out the opportunity to to grow and evolve.

And it sounds like you were the perfect person for that to happen to, because not everybody would be able to recover, for um, like just any hate you know, from it's really hard to to read things and and that are just not true and not feel the need, you know, and just be like I'm not going to defend myself because it's just not it's not even worth it. And people just people want to What I've learned is that like people just want to they want to think

what they want to think. So like for me, my thing is like I don't need people to like me, but I want to be right and I want you to know that I'm right. So that but like you don't you know, you're not gonna win. It's a losing battle. So and it's also like the people that are saying all that, it's like, okay, but you personally don't even know me, so go off like say what you're gonna say, but you've never met me, So until you meet me then make a fair judgment. That's like what I always say.

I'm like, if you meet me and you don't like me genuinely, Like if we talk for a while and this girl is a bit, I'm like, Okay, then you can think I'm a bit, that's fine. But if you're just seeing like little things online, like you can't you can't judge me just for that, like you don't even know.

But I also think is just another random topic. But I also feel like, and then we can get back to you and like details about your life, but you're just very I feel like you're very understanding of all this, and it's interesting to hear another person's perspective. But I also feel like what's interesting about like trolls or internet hate or just being on social media in general. It's like, hey, it never feels good for anybody to have like a

mean comment, Like everybody's human. You don't want to see that anyway. But I think that people forget that, like the people that they're talking to, these influencers or anybody that's in some world of like fame or public like attention,

is like they're also human beings. And I feel like people genuinely forget that, like the mental toll it can take on a person when you are that negative constantly towards them, or it's like one thing like I saw my friend who's like in the midst of like being quote unquote canceled right now, and he like came out and said his side of things, and then I see all the comments that are like why why, like why is he making this about himself? Like how do we

make this about himself? And I'm sitting there and I'm like I get what the comments are saying too, but also like do you not realize like when you've canceled somebody that much and it's that public and you're constantly writing negative, negative things like of course it's about them now, Like that takes a mental toll. What you're crazy to think they're sitting like that's not making it about themselves.

That's being a human with emotions and reacting to something where hundreds of thousands of people are telling you who you are right now. That's like survival, that's like fight or flight. Like we are wired for connection. We're wired for like literally our biology wants to be accepted in the clan because otherwise, like we're not you don't survive as a solitary person like in our you know, going

back to the caveman times. So it's, yeah, it is all about us because it feels like life or death when you're being like cut out, when you're being canceled. Um but I but I think the best thing like that that I feel like you're exemplifying for people, for all the people that are continuing to be canceled, is that like the best way to just like win when those people is just keep showing up. Like here you

are with like a successful podcast. Here you are like still showing up, doing your makeup, doing your camera in front of you, and it's like it's like they didn't they didn't win. So that's like very inspiring. Yeah. I read also that you were pregnant during COVID. True or false, Like in the midst of the pandemic, I was pregnant during COVID. That was how was your mental health and

like how did you keep yourself in check? Yeah? So I I had I had an experience after I had my son that I started having catastrophic anxiety and I

didn't even really know what it was. Um, but I realized I realized now that it was like it almost felt more like a superpower, Like I could walk into a room and identify like every exit, every potential threat, every hot coffee, every like person that looks weird, every because like I was just like hyper vigilant over my son and I was really afraid that he was going

to like some like a smother in his sleep. And you hear these horrible stories things happened to kids, and like I feel like Netflix was always telling me to watch like documentaries about horrible things happens to kids, and I just felt like after a while, I was like, this doesn't feel this can't be right, Like this is debilitating, and like to my husband, it seemed like I was just being like an overprotective mom or like nurturing and it's almost like it was almost like, oh, you're like

you're like too good of a mom. But it's like that's actually like that's what they call it, but it's actually, uh, it's like it's it's postpartum. It's not really depression. It leads to depression because it's anxiety. So I ended up going actually um on Zoloft for a little while, and it like turned my world around and and made made me realize that what I was feeling was not normal, not helpful, and and I felt great. Um, so that

really worked for me. And like I come from a family of like my dad's like has run fifteen marathons, Like if you're feeling down, like he's like, go run. Yeah, Like exercise does help, but like to a certain extent, I think, especially when you're dealing with like the hormones

of after birth and all that. So anyway, so that was with my son, and then when when um, a year later, I wanted to have another baby and I didn't want to be on any medication for that, so I weaned off and it was fun, and I got pregnant, the pandemic hit and I'm just like like halfway through my pregnancy, I started feeling like the same things, like I started the same kind of like just like intrusive

thoughts of like of just like bad things happening. They were like I remember I watched something on the news and like the story was like sat on my chest for like weeks, like I couldn't shake it, you know, It's like I just kept thinking about it was so sad um and so I had to make a really hard decision about whether to go back on zoloft during my pregnancy. And that's like there's not a lot of studies around um like taking medication while pregnant, because you know,

ethnically they can't really do that. They can't use pregnant women on trial for like a trial um study. So and then there's like a there's like a some percent chance that they could be born with autism, or then there's but I knew I was having a girl. I

know the autism is much less common in girls. And so I had to make the really hard decision to go back on it because it was either like what's going to be worse for this baby, like being depressed and anxious and possibly like going into early labor or going on this medication. And so I went on it. I started feeling good again and I and it like worked perfectly, and we're I know, we were talking about science before um and the craziest thing like happened. She

was she was like it was like eight months. I still had another month until she was born. And it was the middle of the night and I just woke up and I had this like I was like something that's not right, Like I just had like a feeling

like in my gut. She she was like, I didn't have any pain, there was no bleeding, nothing, But I was like, I'm just gonna drive myself to the hospital because like I didn't want to go during the day because it was the height of COVID and I didn't remember during COVID, like you never wanted to go to the doctor. He's never wanted to be around. Like I barely get in ye right was the lines and everything.

So I was like, I'll just go now because I couldn't sleep, and um to get in my car and I go and they hooked me up and they're like we need to get this baby out of you right now. She can't breathe. And they were like, how did you know to come in. I was like I literally don't know. I just like drove myself here, Like I remember on the way they're being like you're such a weirdo, like you're driving by myself. Didn't even tell my husband I

was leaving. I just got in the car and went and I was like they're gonna be like this lady's psychotic.

She needs to go home. Oh my gosh, that's like mom intuition yeah, it was crazy, And so I labored for her and and we labor and labor, and she kind of come out and they were like, we should just do a c section before, like something bad can happen, and and we end up doing a c section and she was completely wrapped in her cord, like from the neck down, and they were like, she didn't come in today,

she would not have made it. Yeah, so that's like, that's like my I like have chills now even telling this story because I I on pent believe now, just in like, do you have a gut feeling that, like with no evidence about it, just something in the gut feeling like you need you should act on it. I feel like our bodies know almost before our brains do sometimes, like what's happening. Yeah, my mom always told me growing up, when you have like a like your intuition or gut instinct,

that's like your angels talking. She's like pretty religious, so I think that that's like her her thing, but always talking about angels too, and I'm like, I don't, I don't know. I don't think of those in that in that like conceptual kind of term. But I also grew up Catholic, so yeah, me too, But I do think that's that's really crazy. So you had her, you had her with a C section. I had her c section a month early. UM. And then how did you feel

after that? I? Well, I was on the zoloft from me pregnant, so I felt it was it was just a much easier transition. It was much smoother UM and and I weaned off of it after that, and like, my I don't know, like I haven't been having like any anxiety, any symptoms, thank God, knock on wood. But everybody's like, why would you go off? Like what's the big deal? Like just maybe you're just someone who needs

to like be on that forever. And and there's just something in me that's like I just don't want to have to be on something forever. Just feels very like I don't know that it just it. I would rather not, but I'm not opposed to it. Like if those feelings start coming back, I know that that for me, like I have no qualms about like going back on it. And I don't think it means that you're a weak person.

I think it. Yeah, I think it means that you know, like when something is chemically off, and that you can identify it as like separate from yourself. And I feel like there's also like so much you can do like on your own and like homeopathically or whatever. Certain people believe even that are kind of deterred from like standard medication. But there's also like truly there's only so much you can do if you have a chemical imbalance or something.

That's like with my somebody that I used to be very close, but they were always super ashamed of being on medication, and I would always tell them, I'm like, this is nothing to be ashamed about. Like, if anything, this is kind of a blessing. You found something that worked, like otherwise you can just live in like speaking of um wellness though, I know on your Instagram you have

a segment like wellness Wednesdays. Oh my god, yesterday's Wednesday, And I like, what's the segment Caroline to yell at me that I haven't done yet? Um, So I've been getting these um these ad I v s. Have you have you heard of them? An A D I like don't even know it's this really long? Is an amino? Basically it's approachein that your body makes for you already, but it's supposed to be like anti aging, anti um inflammatory.

It's supposed to kind of help your body heal fast her And it's this ivy that I've been getting through this company called reset ivy um and and and I think it's been helping me. I mean, like my sleep has been feeling better. I don't know, have you Have you gotten I vs as like a I have when I'm like hungover. Yeah I know, I know, and every single time I get them if I'm hungover, which has been like too many times. But I just feel like it doesn't really work for I agree. Wait, I agree.

I'm the only person that says that I'm like, this doesn't do I still feel terrible right. And I had a nurse tell me once that she's like, well, like you could also just drink the water, like you don't have to get it right. It's like, yeah, it'll hydraate you if they give you some zoo fran that's the like anti no me, dan, you'll feel better, But like nothing's gonna make up for like the lack of sleep that you got, you know. So and yeah, um yeah,

oh my god, I need to find a hangout. Like somebody whoever may create a pill is going to be so rich. I need to get on that. Like so rich, I wouldn't a musk made like a hangover charging station or something you should? I mean, honestly, if you're that smart and you can make that many other things like how hard is it to figure out how to cure a hangover in a pill? I always think about that, But then I'm like, well, clearly, if it was easy, it would have been done. Yeah, or we could just

stop drinking. But that just doesn't seem realistic at all. No, No, I don't think I tried that. There was a while. There was a while where I was like, I actually don't drink anymore. I like told everybody hard when you're pregnant, like the nine months of sobriety, it it definitely. It definitely highlights for you what your crutches are when you're not allowed to use them anymore, and we eat like I Well, it was also a pandemic. Okay, people were drinking.

Remember how much everybody drink. Everybody's making like banana bread and drinking, making bread and drinking. That's literally all the Remember everybody had like a sour dough starter. Yes, I don't care, Like can somebody give me a bottle of wine. But yeah, I know that it definitely was hard the whole. It was like for me, pregnancy felt like being trapped in your body, and then like I was also trapped in a pandemic, and it was just like there was

a lot of feelings of being trapped. I was like, my whole I can't even imagine that too, because I know so many people can relate to just the pandemic in general, just being like absolutely terrible, feeling super locked away, like no social connection. On top of that, being pregnant, which kind of as you're talking about, like I feel like everybody glorifies pregnancy obviously. I'm I'm still in my early twenties, like not a thought in my brain about

having children anytime soon. But I'm like when I do, I don't know anything about pregnancy except that like you looked cute with a big belly, and you can wear like really cute tight dresses and you don't have to worry about being bloated because you're pregnant. Like that's people treat you very well, Like people treat you like you're like a walking miracle, like and do you have the

baby and then you're like not pregnant anymore. Like you noticed a shift in like how people treat and you're like, like, am I not a walking miracle anymore? Like how like the minute the baby comes out, as all like how's the baby? How's the baby, It's like, the baby's fine, Like I'm not now, like I know I haven't slept for months. Um, But yeah, it was. It's interesting because

like my pregnancies were different. With my son, I did have that, like I always being a mom was like the only thing I was ever sure of in my whole life. So like when I got pregnant and I was so excited and I feel like I really like enjoyed that experience more. I also wasn't as sick like when I had so lay, I was like it was a pandemic. I had girls make you more sick. I don't care what they say, they just do. Like my

I was so sick for such a long time. Um, and then I end up having that like postpartum or the perinatal they call it when it's during pregnancy anxiety. So there was it was just a different experience. Every baby is so different. And I don't want to scare you. A lot of people. A lot of people just love the whole they I mean, I follow girls on Instagram who are like have nine children, like that's somewhere like in Costa Rica jungle and they're like breastfeeding all six

of them. I don't know. People are made for all sorts different. Yeah, do you have like one wellness practice that like you could recommend to people listening or like one thing that you think whether it's through like your pregnancy journey or post or before whatever it is that you like stuck to throughout the years that it's really helped. Yeah.

I for me, I really like to listen to Everybody learns in a different way, but I really like to listen to audio books and like I have like a whole like I guess you could call it self help repertoire, but um, on my website, I'm gonna I'm gonna have like a little book club of all just all of my favorite books that have like really helped me throughout

the year. Will you please send me a list of these because I just got into self help books, Like I'm really into the self improvement ones, but I don't know, I've only read like a few. Have you seen have you read dear self. No, I don't know that one. It's almost some of my favorite are like, um uh, what happy people know the untethered soul. You have to

be like really in like a I don't know. You have to be in a place sometimes it's like when you're in the worst places, like the time when you're when you're like open to reading really taking them in. But that was great. The power of now is like a great one that a lot of people know. Um uh, there's there's so many if you're into more of like a spiritual um like if you have a little bit

of a spiritual edge to you. There's a book called The Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton, which is so good, and it's basically just talks all about how like from the ages of zero to eight, our brains are in something called like braative beta way of brain state where it's like basically like you're in a meditative state and everything that's like shown to you is you take in

as true. So basically you're being just downloaded during that whole time, and like the work of the rest of our life is to kind of like undo the things that are well intentioned parents or you know, the society told us that we were and that we aren't, And so I'm really interested in all of that, like unpacking things. So I like to I like to read and listen to books. I can't really read because I can't focused.

I'd like to audio. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I feel like that's like the one because I feel like, right now I'm like in the darkest place I've ever been in, like just like mentally, like yeah, just like which you would never know, which is the crazy thing about social media, Like you would never know what somebody is like going through behind, but they're not posting basically, And I don't post about it or talk about it really because I'm like, I don't want to like a

pistol are people off that, Like I'm yearning out of all people, and like I don't know, I just I don't want to make anybody else like sad. But I just like that's when I really started getting into like all these self improvement books, and I feel like it

does actually really help. So if anybody's going through something like it helps you cut the way you talk about like even just you being like I feel bad for myself, like out of all people, like you're you have the right to be to feel upset, and you have the right to feel like a bit just because you have came from like a family that was famous and whatever. It's like, that doesn't give anybody any less of a right to have feelings about about it, just to feel bad,

you know. So I know, I just think like nowadays with like current social media, like like some people you're just not allowed to be upset, or at least that's like you're pretty no, no, no, you don't get to be upset. Yeah, Like there's just certain things that are like which I see, I see all perspectives, but I can't help but just think like, no, that's of course, it's our job to do the best we can for

all the things that are happening out there. But you need to be like, if we're not first worrying about like our own mental health, then we're not going to be a service to anybody, you know, We're not gonna be able to be capable of it. So I just, yeah, I know that's the whole I'm gonna say the wrong thing and get canceled again. So you literally can't get canceled when you're on the call. Next to me like I will make you look so much better every time.

But we'll end on that note. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I really enjoyed this conversation. Honestly, you're super easy to talk to. Thank you. Um yeah, thanks so much and this was so much fun. And I will totally send you that list of books please, and if you ever want to come back, once you and your sisters and you guys launch all that stuff, you guys always have a space, I'll talk about it stuff. I want to be the first to note absolutely, thank

you so much. Go get your crying baby, bye bye. Thank you