Conversations with Amanda Kloots

what the future holds. So with that being said, please welcome miss Amanda Klutz. Hi, Hi, long time to see. How are you? Oh my god, Olivia. I was supposed to go to jingle Ball. It would that would have been so fun. Oh my god. I didn't go because I've gone in New York before and it's so loud and so like. I didn't stay for the entire thing, but I stayed for a few of my friends performances, and I was like, I was blown away. It was so exciting to watch people I know up there. It

was God, who did you know? I was only going to go for Ed Sheer and I was like, I love Ed. I love Ed shere and well, I stayed for him, but then I think I left after his performance because I was just so tired. But my friend Bozzy performed, which was really fun to see because I felt like the crowd they would it would go in waves of it being like super amped up and then everybody's kind of mellow, and he got the crowd going. So it was just really fun to see. Oh cool,

I wish you were there because Jojo was there. Was there. You guys look so cute, and I was like, oh, we would have had a full reunion. Would have been great for a little family, a little family truly. How have you been? Um, I've been all right. I mean, like I said to you, I mean it's slowly getting better. The depression is slowly getting better from like us, you know, our intense lives going back to normal. Um it's been Yeah,

it's been getting better. Yeah, I know. I miss it a lot actually, like random, and I didn't think I would. I literally I just asked Emma and Brett. I was like, Okay, so I really want to like take ballroom lessons, like at least once a week. And I was like I need advice on who to go to because I really want to do this, Like I feel like even just getting that once a week lesson will help me feel better, you know for sure? Okay, I might tag along for a few of those. Yeah, take me with you. Okay.

So a lot of people I obviously know you from the show Dancing with the Stars. If you guys don't know A man and I did season thirty together and it was a blast. But I feel like I don't even really know this, and I know my audience probably is curious to what was life like, not even just before the pandemic. But I guess like growing up in general and where you're from and just giving them a

little background of who you are. Oh sure, So I grew up in a Hio Canton, Ohio, which you're a football fan, is home of the football Hall of Fame. I mean Olivia. Like my family's the Brady Bunch. We are each other's best friends. We all look alike, we all sounded like we are all you know we we we danced, we played instruments, we were in the band, we were major atts um you know, we went to the ice cream parlor down the street, we walked to school.

I mean, it's like that whole like Midwest Norman kind of painting lifestyle. Um, you know, I mean not to say that we like have this easy life or anything like that. Um, but it just was like family first. God first, it was just like a you know, very loving U home town kind of vibe my childhood, you know. So yeah, that was that was growing up. And then at eighteen, I decided that I wanted to move to

New York to learn how to be on Broadway. And so I went to a musical theater conservatory in New York at eighteen and switched the switch the hometown girl up to city girl. When you were when you were in Ohio, were you like dancing or acting or doing anything theatrical or were you just like in school and living a normal life. Well, I went to a performing arts middle school, so that's like how I became involved

with like dance and choir in drama. And then in high school I started doing ballet and I was in like a pre professional ballet company and so then that was like my life. But then also choir, so I like did a lot of singing in high school musicals in high school, and then but like after school, my life was I went to dance at ballet, but like ballet, ballet, ballet, ballet, and then you moved to New York at eighteen, and then how is the Roquettes whole situation? Is that like

an audition process? I don't know anything about it. Oh yeah, it's the most intense. Um. Yeah. So I moved to New York at eighteen with two goals to become a

Radio City Rocket and to work on Broadway. And Broadway came first, and after school, which was a two year conservatory, I auditioned for the third time the forty two Street national tour of the Broadway show that was happening at the time, and I finally booked it Third Times a Charm and I went on a national tour that was like my first job at twenty years old, and um toured the country for ten months while I was touring auditions for the Radio City Rockets here in New York City,

and um that was also a Third Times a Charm that for that audition and booked that job while I was on tour, So then left tour to become a Radio City Rocket. That audition, though, was literally I think like probably at least five d seven hundred girls at that open call. They needed twelve girls. It was over two days, ten to six pm the whole day. I mean, you are it is so intense. You know, it's all about perfection and and you know, looking the same so everybody.

You know, it's all it's so uniform and precise, and you really have to fit that mold. You know, you can't be yourself there, you have to you have to be like everyone else. So it's it's very insane. It sounds so intense. I remember when I was a kid, I would any time we'd be in the city in New York, my mom would take my sister and I had to see the Rockuettes around Christmas time, and it

was like my highlight. I was so excited. I was blown away by the way you guys can all also move your bodies and how everybody is that flexible and in sync. I remember being like nine years old and just like, how are they doing this? And then to watch that carry over and then you really like take over ballroom, which I think is like a funny misconception

that I've seen a lot. When like you and jo Joe and everybody was joining the show that had previous dance experienced, people were like, this isn't fair, like they've danced before, and it's like, oh my gosh, but if you knew what ballroom training was, like, there's no way. It's similar to being a roquette, like it has to

be so different, Oh, the complete opposite. In fact, like everything like actually worked against me, you know, like Alan was constantly like soft thin and like get low and don't be so sharp and learn how to dance with me. First of all, a rocket, you're dancing by yourself the whole time. Even when we're kicking in a kick line, you aren't allowed to touch the person next to you, so you are by yourself the whole time. You do not ever dance with someone. And then it's all about

being up and being sharp and being tall. And then you know from being dancing with a man, it's like ben journeys, get low, and especially with Alan, because I'm so tall and he's like my height, like I had to get extra low. I felt like I was dancing at that show, like I felt literally I was dancing in a squat like bent, like bent halfway over and so funny, like you're dancing it and you feel like

I must look like an idiot. And then you watch the video back, and you're like, I don't even look like I'm low, and I literally feel like I'm dancing on that. You didn't look like it at all. You could not tell that you were really having to like focus on that and bent down because everything looks so flawless. But it is weird. It's just like a total change of pace. Yeah, how is having Alan as your partner? I obviously know you guys are great friends and everything

like that, but tell the listeners what that experience was like. Yeah, you know, the minute I walked in that room, I mean, you know, I had no idea who I was gonna get. I had requested somebody tall. I was like, just please give me a tall pro because I know I'm a tall lady. Um. So I walked in the room and I saw Alan. I had watched you know, many seasons and saw him last season, especially dance with Sky, and

I was so excited. We immediately hit it off. We just had that like really good bond and you know, being able to like laugh and enjoy you know the process, and feel so passionate about dancing and this competition, especially because I'm such a huge Dancing with the Stars fanatic, even before doing the show. Now I'm even more of a fanatic. Um, so I think he appreciated that I had come in being a fan already, you know. Um. But then you know, we just, yeah, we really worked

well together. And I think, you know, throughout the process, you spend so much time with this person, you know. For me, it was it was it was so nice because I had really missed having like somebody that I spend time with my life. That isn't not that I don't love my son, but that isn't my son, That isn't like meeting something from me all the time. It was so nice to be able to like go and spend time learning a new skill and also gaining this

new friend at the same time. And you know, I hadn't realized obviously spending so much time on Broadway and rockets like that. Rehearsal space is so um, I'm so used to that. It's like my comfort zone. Like I walk into a dance rehearsal and I'm like, oh, I remember what this feels like. You know, like I'm immediately you know, I'm grabbing your arm and and and hugging you and kissing you. Just feel like that's like that

just feels so natural to me. So it was so nice to like go back to that so easily, and Alan made that so easily available too, and and it just felt like I got to go back in time to like that time in my life where things were a little easier and and it just like was so it made me so happy every day to go to work. It really did. I think that's why I'm in depression now. You know, well, you also have had like a really crazy rough and traumatic and also just like completely like

life changing. I feel like two years or you know, it's been it's been wild, and I like, I'm so I admire you so much because obviously getting to work with you and like see you every day, you have such like strength and grace for going through something so challenging. Do you think the show helped in like a healing process in a way or was this more of like a fun distraction because I know some people get really deep with the show, you know what I mean, and

like let's really pull something out of them. And you know what I think it is is, I think it hits you in this show like you are just you join and you're so happy and you're like you've you've watched the show and you see that transition in people and you're like, you go in At least I go in. I went in with it just being like I have no expectations. I'm just here to have fun. I'm so happy to be here, and I want to learn how to ballroom dance. That was like my number one goal.

And then yes, there is. You're so right. There's this like weird turning point in the show where like it gets really emotionally difficult. You're so exhausted, you're physically exhausted, and you realize it's a competition when like you don't want it to. I never wanted this show to be a competition. I really didn't want us to like all continue on it because it was so fun to see everybody like grow each week. Like I literally was so funny to tru everybody on, so like it all hits you.

And then when it does, and for me, I think

that's what happened. For me, there was like a moment of like, oh God, like this is actually like really helping me kind of heal, and Alan is really helping me heal, and oh God, I'm like this show yeah, yeah, mootional roller coaster, and so you're answer to the answer your question, Yes, it really did, and it didn't That hit me after we did our contemporary dance um in the semifinals to nixt song Live Your Life, because I woke up the next morning and I think the whole

week of like a lot of tears and a lot of talking with Alan about it and then performing it, and you know, on Sunday that you know, you you rehearse it so much and then you perform it, and then by the final performance on Monday night, I think I was so emotionally exhausted and spent from you know, the whole week um let alone, just that day that I woke up on Tuesday and I was like, oh my god, like I feel like a new layer of like healing from that week and the show and and

so it was. It was an oddly healing thing for me that danced to Like definitely everybody watching felt it, and that was like such a that's so hard to do on a show like that because everybody's first of all, you're watching so many different dances back to back, and everybody has their own like spice or flair or something they're adding to it. That's really special. But like, oh my gosh, the room after that dance, like everybody just felt the emotion and it was so special to watch.

And I've told you in person, but I mean, it was just absolutely gorgeous. It was beautiful. I am curious because I don't even think I've really talked to you too in depth about this, and I'm just wondering, like, what was life like pre pandemic and then what was that journey going going through what you did and how Nick got sick and what that whole process was and you documenting it on social media? What was that all

like for you? Yeah, I mean it's so crazy because my life pre prandemic to now is like a lictoral like naty degree difference, so three six degree difference. Um. Nick and I just moved to l A. We had a brand new baby, Elvis was three months old. I was just starting to get back into work. Nick was unemployed. We moved here. Um. We were living in our good friend Zach Braft's guesthouse, UM free of charge because we

had no money. UM. Nick showed that he was supposed to do here kept getting postponed because of construction and UM so literally like we literally had nothing, and I was just getting back into teaching fitness and every time I had come here to teach fitness before, my class is sold out and it was like I was a huge hit in l A. And so moving here, I thought, Okay, good at least like we have that, Like every time I've taught in l A, it's been a good success.

So good. One we moved here and nobody could care less that I was here. Nobody was showing up to class. I'm I was lucky to have like one person in my class. I felt like such a failure. Um, nothing, nothing was working. I was in I think postpartum depression because of it all. Um Nick would leave the house to like go work on music and I would just start sobbing and immediately call him and tell me how to come home because I felt like I was having

a panic attack just being alone in the house. It was like it was such a weird, um, a super weird time in our life. Closer to like, and I'll say March, because I do feel like that's when like the pandemic kind of hit are like the United States, Um, closer to March, things were like sort of getting better. My class has had a little bit more energy. Nick

was finally doing his show. We were sort of finding our pace in l a I. We had bought a house that we were renovating, so I kind of felt like, okay, we're gonna move out of Zack's. We have our own place. So closer to March, things felt like, okay, we're here. We made a decision. Things are kind of revving up from myself again. Elvis is getting a little bit older. I'm feeling better about being a mom and his and he has this job that at least is like paying

the bills. So it slowly started to get better than the pandemic hit and everything came to crash. We we went back to New York because we had to move out of our officially move out of that apartment that we still had there as kind of like our cushion. We moved out of New York. Um said goodbye to everything there and officially, you know, took everything here. And two days later we got back from New York and that's when Nick got sick. Um and so you know, it just it hit us like a ton of bricks,

you know. And and that first week that Nick was sick. He he literally just was sleeping. He had no symptoms of COVID. Uh that we're on the news at the time. Even even now, if somebody was just saying that they were tired, you wouldn't be like, oh, Olivia, you have COVID.

You probably just be like you're exhausted. So I, you know, we did not think that Nick was sick, and so you know, I feel bad now because it was like the last week I had with Nick and and he was just sleeping the whole time, and I was like, oh gosh, my lazy husband, Like in my head, you know what I mean, as any as any woman would do, like come on, like, I'm tired too. I'd love to take a nap um, but you know, in retrospect, what can you do? So yeah, I mean it it and

then it Yeah. Then I took him to the last fital and then that all happened and it was just like that storm, you know. Um. To answer your last question, the reason why I started talking about on social media was because you know, I had a small social media presence, like fifty followers at the time, but they were you know, very loyal to me and my fitness company and you know, COVID was such a scare, especially at that point in time. Nick was in the I c U and I hadn't

talked about it at all yet. I was going on air every or on face on sorry, on Instagram every day talking about fitness, and I just felt like I was living like a lie, Like my life. Yeah, I can't have like my husband and I see you and then every day get on you know, and be like, okay, guys, everything's perfect. So I was just like, I gotta comfort with this. Also, I think it's important to talk about the fact that, like my husband was just tired and now he's laying in the I c U and no

one's staying on the news. That tired is a symptom. So that was kind of why I started talking about it. Yeah, do you feel like I don't really know much about because I don't think I even knew that when that was happening, that you were like documented or not documenting, but you know, like sharing his journey and your journey

with that. Did that did that like support or the prayers or anything like that that you received from people that followed you kind of lift your spirit during that time or was it just like I'm just posing this and hopes to help somebody that might feel the same way. And that's that. Well, it started off as that. It started off with I kind of just want to bring awareness to something. And then yeah, it literally was like

an everyday blood of support. It turned into this like this army, and and it just kept growing and growing and growing and growing, and like literally I don't know how I would have gotten through it without all of it, now, you know. I mean it was such a daily support system of talk to this doctor, you know, go year

this idea, that idea. Um, you know, any time I was questioning what the hospital was doing, I would get on Instagram and be like what do you guys think, and like people would send me their opinions and options, and um, it was it was honestly the best thing I could have ever done. And I I didn't even know, you know, it was never my intention. It just like ended up doing that, you know, like spelling into that. Yeah. And then so after after that all happened, now you're

doing the talk. Obviously we were on Dancing with the Stars. How did that all start to transform into like, you know, bringing you these opportunities not only just to share your story, but to actually provide like real work for you and your son, because now you know you're the main provider. Yeah, no, and and and it's so scary. Yeah. I have a new house that now you know Nick is not living

in with us. Uh, you know, a mortgage, a card payment, and and a son and you know, all of a sudden and listen, I've always been like, I make my money and I can take care of myself kind of girl like. And I've always probably you know, been proud of that. But um, it definitely once you're you know, once you're married, and you and you feel like you have that cushion that person, it's hard to go back to. Now. Shoot,

it's all on you again. Um, Nick passed and I think a couple of months went by and the casting people at the talk said that they would love to come have me guest co host, and um, they said to my manager, we actually want her to guest co host ten times. And it's too you know, possibly replace. You know, we have an open spot on the show. So um, here's the contract and and we'll let you

know by November thirty if she has the job. And I think I guess co hosted like around fifteen times, and you know, they let me know on November thirty that I got the job, and like literally, like Olivia, that was I mean, that was such a game changer. Like you know, on Broadway, it's never a set job. You never know how long your show is gonna run. You think you're in the best show ever. The New York Times gives you a review and you are closed next week, Like you never have stability. So I never

had stability in my entire life. Getting that phone call that day after losing my husband and like you know, ironically in a weird way, preparing myself for for this job by you know, being a performer my whole life. Um, it just felt like kids met and such a blessing, Like it was a huge weight off my shoulders because I was like, oh my god, I have I have a job, I have insurance, I have health insurance for Elvis and I I have a paycheck each week. I

I can afford things, I can put money away. It was like, oh my god, it was such a blessing, life changing. Yeah. I feel like that's definitely one of those things where it's like everything is happening for a reason. And the universe kind of like brought that into your life and was like, hey, you need this right now, here you go and you're still doing it and it's amazing. And then you did Dancing with the Stars, which was

also incredible to see. I know a lot of people listening have you know, lost somebody they love or they've gone through something really tough, whether it's been through COVID or just life in general. And I'm just curious, like because I remember at a really young age losing like my grandparents and things like that that really hurt. But I haven't I don't think knock on wood, but in my life I've really lost somebody that's like you know, as an as an adult and that really hit me hard.

And how how was that like grieving process or what would you tell somebody like going through something similar, how you kind of got the strength to keep going and to keep pushing through. Yeah, um, I would just say that it is a process that is your own. You know.

Day one after losing Nick, I like because on type AI googled like how to deal with grief and you know, the States, you know, there's a very like these stages of grief, and you know, the experts say that you're going to feel this week one and feel this week too, and um, and what I learned is that none of

that works for me. Actually, Like you know, you you have to it's this roller coaster and you, unfortunately are in the car with the seat build on and you have no idea when you're going up, down and all around and it never ends, like this roller coaster just doesn't end. Um. And you have awesome highs and you have really low lows and they can last two seconds like a roller coaster does. Um. Things I did right

away just to help myself. First of all, like obviously I love fitness, but like working out every day just made me feel better. Like the minute I put headphones on or turn music on and move my body, oxygen's flowing, the bloods flowing. What was on my mind is now off my mind and it makes me feel better. And then the other thing I did the first two weeks after he passed, which I do think really helped, is I every day just said it to myself, I'm gonna

do one thing today that makes me happy. If I cry the rest of the day, that's fine, But for the one one thing a day is going to make me happy. So like I went for a walk, I mean that sounds dumb, Like went for a walk in my old neighborhood because I was at home in Ohio, And like I baked a cake one day, like I mean, like anything, watched a Hallmark movie one day. I mean it was one thing that I knew would make me happy that day, um, just to get me through the day.

Because you literally feel like, especially in the beginning, you feel like an astronaut in space. You know that, like that awesome image of the astronaut like in his suit and he's just like floating like this looking down at Earth. Yes,

that is what grief feels like. You feel like you're in his bubble and no one can hear you, and no one can like and people are talking at you, but nothing's making sense and you're just like looking down at every everyone else living their life and you don't even feel like connected to their them, the life, your life, the world. So it's just how long did that feeling last? Oh God, I hate to say that it lasted a good like solid like a month and a half, two months.

It's like, I think that's like the hardest days to try to get through is that, like you just feel so removed, you feel like um. And this is the other thing that really helped me. You really do feel like no one else understands how you feel. And so in that moment, what you have to do, or what you can do to help yourself is find other people.

I've connected so much with other widows and widowers, and hearing their stories helps me because you they start talking and you're like, oh my god, you know exactly how I feel. You you also you know this feeling, you know what this loss is like, and so then it

makes you it makes you feel less alone. Totally. Yeah, I feel like through any like hard situation like that, Like I can relate a totally different situation, but I can relate to like just going through something and feeling like, Okay, nobody actually understands like what I feel inside right now, except like my sister who's going through it with me, or somebody that just like you know, really gets it. Who was like your biggest support, Like who do you

lean on the most? Like parents? I feel like i'd probably know my mom and dad. Yes, my mom and dad were huge, My brother and my sisters were huge.

And then ironically and um this happened when I went through a divorce to because I don't know if you know that I was married before, I did not know that I've had twenty thousand life um uh that it's ironically surprising when you go through hard times and maybe you felt like this too, there's people that you didn't even have in your life before this hard time that enter in and become your go to person that help you through it and your best friend since age five.

Not to say that they haven't supported you or been there or they aren't also a listening ear, but they It's like these weird people that come out of the woodworks that end up being that support system. So you know, ironically people that were like brand new in my life. Was that your ex husband too? No he wasn't, but um not he We have a very nice relationship now. But the same thing with going through divorce. I heavily leaned on my mom and my dad for support with that.

But like, ironically, when I went through that divorce, it was like people who were brand new in my life helped me get through that more so than people that had been my best friends at the time. It's just weird and I think it's also like such a beautiful thing to like. Obviously, I've seen like a little Elvis around and he's freaking prescious. Like you guys, you don't understand her son is so cute? Did he understand that you were on Dancing with the Stars and that you

have this amazing upcoming feature on their tour? You guys just going on tour with Dancing with the Stars. But um, he he did. He didn't at first, Olivia. At first I would be like, um, do you wanna watch Mama dance? And you go trash trucks and I go okay. And then he started understanding it, and he would ask for it and he would say Mama dance. And then towards the end, um, he kept going, Mama goes to work at Dancing with the Stars. And I was like, yes,

I am. And then the show and that he kept saying, Mama goes to work at Dancing with the Stars. Not like that anymore. No, don't remind me quiet, it's over. How excited are you for tour? I am? I'm so excited. First of all, I'll be celebrating my fortieth birthday with the cast there to throw down for you say, better throw down. I uh and honestly, what better way to like ring in a whole new decade than dancing, and um, you know you know how much joy it brings to dance,

So I'm super excited. It really did also help with like the crash of the finale to know that, like I will be dancing with Alan again, dancing again, I'll be dancing with these people again, So it really did help. I'm super, super super excited, and I feel like I've

toured the country three different times. I don't need to do another like three months to her, so like just this sweet like two weeks is like perfect, and it's still gonna be so much work though, Like even though we already know Alan is going to be in the studio with you morning tonight making sure this is perfection I know. I literally just asked him yesterday. I was like, do we need to like refresh some things before you leave for tour because then I don't see you till

like the day before I start. I was like, I might want to, like we might need to get the rehearsal room and just like go over these three days. But you know him, I was like, but I also know you and you're not gonna be happy with my refreshing totally. Are you guys doing some of the dances you did on the show. Yeah, we're gonna do so fun. Yeah, we do three of three of them. Oh my gosh. Where is the tour? Um? The tour is? The tour is?

I joined in Coasta, Mesa. It goes to like Santa Rosa, San Jose, I think, and then like Seattle, Boise, Salt Lake City, so pretty much stays on this West coast and then does like the California coast. Um in the meantime, what are like some of the goals you have for like, you know, the new year, new fresh start, the whole thing. Do you have anything that like you're really trying to channel? You know, I will say that I love for escopes and what sign are you? You? Just you just had

your birthday? That's right? Okay. I'm a Pisces And for any Pisces that are listening, this is our Emerald year, guys, which means, yes, this is a big deal. It means that this is your year. Like everything amazing is happening to us this year, and specifically the months of February and March. My birthday is March nineteen. Um, it's a big deal. It means like you find the love of your life, you get your amazing job, like career explosive,

like the professional in life, everything explode. That's your Emerald year. So that's all I will say, Olivia, I am giving it up to my emerald year. The universe. You should. You should just really channel it. I'm only wearing green. Yes, Oh my gosh, So what is that? Is that just like supposed to be because I don't really know much about horoscopes um, which my sister would be very disappointed to hear because she's super into all of that stuff.

Emerald year just means that, like it's supposed to be positive and a certain amount of time, like yes, we all every I could use my don't know if you have to look it out? Was aquarious? Is? So now it is the it's pisces um. Just honestly, just look it up. You'll be You'll be riveted. It's very fun. I need to get into this, like I really do. I think it's so fascinating too, because I am a huge believer in the universe and manifestation and stuff like that.

But I just I feel like, also, you know, it's been really weird that's been happening to me lately. I'll think of somebody so much to a point where like I'll run into them, or like I'll get it. I was thinking, guys, I run into Amanda last week. We were both going to a little shopping event. And it's because I was thinking about her every single day. It was like, I really want Amanda, Amanda, and now I

got it. I got what I wanted. What was like the biggest I guess, just going back a little bit with Alan, what was like the biggest or best memory you guys made together. I don't even know if I could answer that if somebody asked me what mine was, but yeah, here I am. You know, I think it was um. I'm pretty sure he would say this same, But I think it was um, you know that week of of the dance for Live Your Life, because you know, we emotionally, I mean, I was pretty much crying every day.

I think he uh, you know, And I sat down with him Olivia and gave him like the full story. He didn't really know it. I showed him pictures and things that no one has ever seen except for my family. I think Um, you know, we had to kind of go to that place, and I think that it just really solidified um a lot a bit, you know, just like took everything to like a much deeper level with our relationship and our friendships. So, um, I think that

that's definitely, yeah, the memory the biggest standout moment. And what is upcoming besides Dancing with the Stars tour? And then I'll let you go because I know you're a big bass woman, boss, I have another interview. Um, uh, what's up becoming? I am working on a children's book. I'm excited about that, yes, um, and uh, some other things that I can't talk about, but um, yeah, the

Dancing with the Stars tour and my children's book. And then honestly, just so happy to still be, you know, every day doing the talk and working with this amazing group of people here at the talk. It's been so fun. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much for coming on you guys. Make sure to follow Amanda on Instagram, keep up with her, follow her journey on this tour and the talk and the children's books. She's got so

much going on. And you just said the stuff you can't even speak about, which means there's more, so you guys have to tune in and check it out. She's amazing. I love you, Thank you for coming on. You miss you already. Bye. Oh my gosh, the biggest thank you to Amanda for coming on. I love her so much. She is so inspiring to me. And if you guys have the chance to ever meet her or talk to her in person, I know you guys would all feel

the same because her energy is just infectious. So big, big thank you to her for coming on, and make sure you guys tune in next week. You guys know the Drill weekly episodes and we'll chat then. Peace.