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Sam welcomes Bryan Callen back to debate topics ranging from unconventional archaeology and the JFK assassination to the trustworthiness of institutions like NASA and Big Pharma. They explore contrasting views on government corruption, the potential dangers of AI, and the complexities of the Israel-Gaza conflict, questioning official narratives and the role of authority.

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Callen is back with Sam to break down why the experts are right, archeology, who really took out JFK and more. 

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Intro and Welcome Back Bryan Callen

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Where are you going right now? They crank the 5G up and then we just all get shaken and baked in microwave. I love it. I didn't say that, you absolute moron. There is no dinosaurs. Those are Nephilim giants from the Bible. And Lucifer is in the Vatican? Yes. Oh, okay. Got it. I think space is probably like just a giant liquid. Build it up. Seal the wealth.

When it's about to collapse, release the gays. Are you going to get the jab? Never. All right, guys. Welcome to a very special... conspiracy social club a little we go old school here dylan wren just had a beautiful baby girl so he's taking a little time off to uh to be a dad That kid's already got him wrapped around her finger. So we called in the big guns and the special occasions. We got to call in the big guns. We'd love to have them more than.

Not. We love to have him on all the time. But here he has a little time in his very busy schedule. A local Texan. Very local Texan. To know him is to love him. My good friend and yours. The OG of this whole thing, Brian Callen. How are you, Brian? Sam, it's good to be back. It's good. I have so many questions. I have so many things I want to school you on. I think that this is probably going to be one of those episodes where people start to realize that.

Maybe maybe there isn't a there there, you know, and maybe maybe a secret group of people isn't running the world. So we're going to we're going to find that now. And there's a lot I want to get into. I love it, buddy. I really love it. You've been, you've been getting, you've been batting around with a bunch of amateurs and it's like me when I get in the ring with a bunch of guys who just don't. And then I get in the ring with a guy like Tim Kennedy or.

one of his friends and things don't work out for me yeah a lot of people say when i've been after you left conspiracy social club was like when will chamberlain played on the harlem globe trotters trotters like what are we doing here but we do it we do it You know, because people need to start. There are a lot of things I want to talk about. Okay, take it away. Welcome back, Dad. Yeah, I want to start with something that when Joe Rogan and Aaron Rodgers.

Questioning Established Archaeology

Those two high-level archaeologists were talking about... Oh, shots fired. Shots fired. Well, they were talking about how there are hieroglyphics. and they were saying there's a helicopter and it is a helicopter there's a plane okay everything checks out right now like a yacht and they were like how do you explain that and and so

The problem is when you're... I wish you were there. You could have explained it to them. Well, when you're not an archaeologist, like someone like me or like Joe, is you go, hold on, that's a helicopter. Okay. The helicopter. All right. This, it goes back to what, I don't know, 13 BC or something crazy. Yeah. So what's going on here? That must be knowledge. But then, then of course.

what you have to say is wait am i the only one who's picking up on this and all the other archaeologists over all the centuries have never raised okay and you have to ask that question because you go, wait, what am I missing here? Because that is a helicopter. Okay, I gotcha. And then you'll get an archaeologist that will say, hey, I know, but this is something we've been like, we saw this back in the 20s or whatever. It's like, this is not new knowledge. Actually, what happened was.

When a king would come in, he would erase what one guy said and then make it about himself. And when they were constantly erasing the stone and carving back up, it turns into that. Did they use number two pens? Is that how they were racing? They did. There's this very unsexy explanation for it. It's not sexy.

I want to jump over to real quick. Brian, do you have an internal monologue? Do you ever hear yourself talk to yourself? Do you ever? I'm very, very clear headed. So no. And so you never hear an inner voice. what i want all you conspiracy can i can you answer that question do you have an inner voice that talks to you I have a number of inner voices. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure I was worried I was talking to a cabbage patch now. No, no. And so there's this, there's this great meme.

Yeah. And it applies to all you conspiracy guys. It's this. He's on his computer and he goes, honey. Wait, come back. I found something that none of the top doctors and scientists, that's all the top doctors and scientists in the world. It's a funny meme. It's like you never left. It's like you never left.

Debating Authority vs Pattern Recognition

Brian, it's really unbelievable. The point is that there are a lot of people that make it a profession. Right. There you go. That's it. And then there are people like yourself and your friends who. who come along we call them the people who've been right lately we call them the people they do their research and stuff okay the problem is that sometimes you guys because you're distrustful of authority, what you do is you find

No, no, no, no, no. We prefer the term pattern recognizers. That's what we prefer. We prefer to be called the pattern recognizers. Yeah, I know because you're always being fooled by the powers, the big thing. Okay.

Let's just, yeah. And the problem is that, no, that's not how the world works. Let's just back up here. And I want you to tell me what you think of the fact that the... jfk files okay you've already moved on you you've just made a statement and then you haven't even let me give a like uh stick up for my good friends joe rogan and aaron rogers i don't know i was using that as an example because i think that's

pretty settled i don't think joe would disagree well the problem you have right now dylan i want to call you dylan because i'm so used to this uh the problem you have right now count is like there are archaeological sites right now that the system or the industry of archaeology refused to study. They refused to study it. And the reason they don't want to study these things is because these things mess up. agreed upon timelines.

so if you're an old head and we're entering that where you know we're not old but we're getting there compared to some of these younger comics the old heads right you get to the old heads and i'm not even talking like 50 year olds i'm talking like let's get into the late 67

years old who've had this kind of um worked their way up we'll go through orthodoxy i'm trying to go find it i found orthodox church near me i'm gonna start going there that's a different story but these these established people who have been in power for a long time, worked their way up through the system, climbed the ladder. And they have this set of knowledge in which they are the experts of. They are the experts of this knowledge.

All the other old heads have agreed to this. I'm sure at some point they were seen as young whippersnappers who had bright ideas and maybe the movement moved a little bit to bring in their ideas. But what we're seeing right now is this refusal of the old guard to take a look at things that might change timelines. Now...

What you're talking about is the possibility of ancient technology that was wiped away and things like mud floods and all that stuff. Back when you were on the show, we called those the glory days. There was things like Tartaria and stuff like that. Ancient knowledge. Now, something very interesting is I just watched a clip of someone who said they believe Tesla might not have been who they thought they were because there's...

Very little footage on him. There's no video of him. There's only a couple pictures and all this contemporaries at the time. There's many videos of them. moving you know in black and white but they're moving and talking but there's nothing of tesla which is a rabbit hole i haven't gone down but i'm open-minded to it you're the thing about you callin that i love with all my heart

is like you trust science, but in your head you say the science is settled, but that is not science. Science is, it's like what I loved about Twitter until about two months ago. It was this really great town hall where you could introduce an idea and you'd instantly find out what people thought about it. And I thought that was the most powerful thing I've seen in a while. Science is never settled. I agree with that. I don't think science is always a discussion.

and this appeal to authority that is your achilles heel of your life because they were all your babysitters no no that's not what i'm that's actually not what i'm arguing because i i agree with you that there is an orthodoxy that settles and then a new maverick

science new evidence comes along says by the way we have this lidar that can tell that there's maybe chambers underneath this throws everything in or whatever there's a lot of you've always got to be open as a scientist to realize that your your life's work might be wrong Right, right. But that's a very advanced, high-level way of thinking that most people don't. In stand-up right now, right? In stand-up right now.

I see the young guard. I think the young guard are great writers. I think they're probably at the stage of their comedy, probably better than the old guard was. You know, like if you go kind of back to the 70s, they were simpler writers, but they weren't performers.

And then the advancement came into kind of our, our generation where we were really great performers. We like, we put on a show and now the next generation, I think they're really great writers. I don't think they're performers. I don't think they perform. I don't think they perform. And things, you know, part of what you have to be as the younger generation. But it changes. The game changes. And it's a lot more safe now.

That's what I think, and I'm okay with it because they got to do it with the kind of comedy they want to do, and there's a lot of great young comics at the Comedy Store that I enjoy watching, but it's changed. It's change. And the only constant in the universe is change. And there's old heads that don't want to come to grips with that. Yeah, that's true. The only thing I would say is that my objection is that we live in a time when people who are non...

experts or who are dilettantes or who are sort of interested on a part-time basis come along and have all these truths that they espouse. But in fact, With a lot of these things, you don't really understand them until you've studied them for 10 years. There's a lot to understand. Sometimes a lot of things are counterintuitive. So we have a lot of information out there and people will talk.

um and i'm like so so statins i take a statin and my doctor like i was like look these people saying statins mean nothing and you look at all the metadata and he kept going like this he's he's actually an athlete and he was like yeah i know yeah

And he said, I know the problem is that he's reading you half the information. And I said, what do you mean? He doesn't have an axe to grind. He doesn't make money on these statins. He said, what is that? And by the way, that is like lowers your cholesterol. Okay.

I have familial cholesterol, so my liver produces a lot. And he said, I look at scans all day long. I look at... you know probably looked at 10 000 scans of arteries and i see what happens when somebody takes a statin after a year and i see the arteries and then i and then i also followed so many of these people throughout their lives or, you know, for past 15 years. So I have seen that. But the reason I apply a statin is because if you look at the metadata that he had looked at.

The consensus among doctors who are really trying to save their patients' lives is that in fact, for many people, not everybody, but for many people, for example, a statin can be really beneficial. And that's interesting to me because I had read the exact opposite. Don't worry about cholesterol, not a big deal because a lot of functional medicine doctors don't know.

kind of disagree and there is and the reason they disagree is sometimes you can have high cholesterol like me and have no real plaque in your arteries you know or like my mom so it's true that sometimes you don't so the point is that You know, what I always think happens is it's not that I'm not a conspiracy theorist. It's more that I think the answer is usually very unsexy. It's really not that sexy. It's like so the JFK files.

JFK Assassination: Simple vs Complex

OK, that they looked at. I mean, I've been looking for the smoking gun. They released a lot. You know what? You know what most likely it is? Well, Harvey Oswald killed John F. Kennedy. And it's not a sexy thing to say, but it's possible that one man who had an axe to grind might have pulled it off, ran out. His wife said, I think he killed him. The rifle wasn't there. It's not a sexy answer.

But if you look at all of it, and people are like, well, it was Jack Rubenstein and Israel and all these things. I mean, yes, OK, you go through all these rabbit holes. The unsexy answer might be. JFK was killed by one guy. If that's the truth, then a whole group of people who've written books and have just so much invested in it. It's like, damn, we released the files. What?

What's going on, right? Okay. So what you're talking about is Oxum's razor, right? That's what you're saying. The biggest thing for me, and this is always what I ask, who benefits? Who benefits from that? And so you have this whole argument and we've we've seen it before. You know, we've had our arguments about it, about, you know, Operation Northwoods, this attempt to blame Cuba. Again, you get into this thing where they want to blame a communist for something to do. There's a lot at...

at play. And the reason nobody knows about it is because at the time, the information was completely controlled by a small group of people. And I've always found it's not as simple as everybody. The simplest answer isn't always the best answer when you come to these very complex. For me, you know, I know, Callan, you've come a long way since we started the show, and you're welcome. Okay? You're welcome. I feel like my job here is done, obviously, since Daddy's been away.

Okay. The kid is kind of reverted back to his old behaviors. Yeah. And I gotta be, I gotta be brought back into line here. Right. You, you, you, you have a soft spot for authority and that's okay. You're using, you're using a rattan cane and you're, you're.

kind of tap me on the hip yeah haircuts in the back with just the back i love it you're not gonna do it hard yes like that and it's hurting me you're hitting me on the top of my hip so it's just a reminder it's a little we call that a that's all it is i respect the fuck out of it dude but the point is it's like There are things at work. There are there. There are other. variables that were involved with JFK. There's a lot of stuff going on there, Brian, that just simply isn't that one guy.

got off three shots, and then decided to go watch a movie after he assassinated the president. So right now I'm trying to read at least once a day. I'm trying to sit down, read like 30 minutes to an hour a day. And I'm reading The Murder of John Lennon. And it's about Mark Chapman. What is his name? No, Mark David Chapman is his name. And... There's just periods of Mark David Chapman's timeline that doesn't make sense.

like he would go on these extravagant is your neck sore buddy did you get like are you saying mark david chevin didn't kill no no no that's not what he's saying at all okay but uh there are Manchurian candidates everywhere. And the episodes I've been doing... Or they're not. Probably not, right? They're playing no Manchurian cabinets. They might be. Most likely...

There are no Manchurian candidates. So when the government, on the record, says we've stopped all MKUltra programs, Brian, do you believe them? Brian, this is a retard test. Probably. I don't think that the CIA is forthcoming with the public. But wait, let me ask you this. What do you think of the fact that there's no smoking gun in the JFK files? I mean, I don't think we were ever going to get a smoking gun.

Well, so you don't think the truth was even written down or that nobody ever... I think those things are either heavily redacted or edited. But... So lacking any evidence. Well, no, no, no. Lacking any evidence supplied to you by the mainstream media, Brian, you have you have not be interested in you. You've taken your Atari graphic computer that you use from the 80s.

and you've calculated that there's no such thing as a smoking gun when there's several smoking guns. And none of them are going to make you happy. Sam, who assassinated JFK? You want me to get into it? I do. I think the CIA, I think people involved with, these are the nice ones that I'm saying. And then we're going to go into a very deep waters and Brian's floating better work. A lot of people. Oh yeah.

Let me put my floaties on. Yes. A lot of people pulled this off. A lot of people all worked together. Yeah. And they all talked about it. And they all took, they said, we're going to kill the president of the United States. And it was probably a lot of people who knew that nobody was going to say anything about it. I mean, they have everything on lockdown. Brian, what do you think that several, I mean, we're talking like 70 people that were there at the Grassy Knolls.

died suddenly right after that jfk uh assassination i don't actually think that's true okay so you're saying that i'm just yelling gibberish at this point weren't murdered after that because they were witnesses i don't think anybody has that power i don't think they were like we got a list of people let's take pictures and find out where they are that would be such a massive effort it would just are there assassin groups brian do you think they exist in the world

Do you think assassin groups exist anywhere? They don't kill 70 American witnesses. it just would be really an awkward way to try to do things right they must be pretty bad assassins why dead men don't tell tales Yeah, but we didn't have any of those people before they died say, hey, I saw such and such. The problem that you have here, Sam, is that there was a thorough investigation and you still can't point to anything

You literally not allowed me to finish it. Okay, keep going. I want to get into this. Hey, guys, guess what? Now Dylan's away.

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Deep Diving JFK Conspiracy Theories

There are a bunch of people that are involved possibly in this whole thing. I'm going to go with the nice ones that a lot of people believe. The CIA. The Federal Reserve. Okay. These are somewhat acceptable answers to you. Maybe it's in the realm. The Federal Reserve and the CIA. So then we keep moving in. The Italian mob.

The Jewish mob, Meyer Lansky, brother, was way more powerful than people wanted to do. And they wanted to go into Cuba. They wanted to take back their old casinos. And JFK wasn't allowed that to happen. And with the Bay of Pigs going so bad, it was going to hold off them being able to run their casinos like they had planned. And he was a staunch Zionist. Israel. Also, Aristotle Onassis.

was possibly involved and here's the one you're never going to ever come to grips with and if you ever ever really want to interview a wonderful journalist okay He goes by to name Dark Journalist. He's one of the best interviews I've ever done in my life. And he brings all the receipts. And he says that there were people within the NASA. that wanted JFK gone. And before your panties get bunched up and you get a nice camel toe going, Brian, just tell me something.

Who do the conspiracy theorists believe? And by who do the conspiracy theorists believe, what does the data tell us on who started NASA? And it's a really easy question.

NASA, Nazis, and Institutional Trust

And I know you're going to have. So we'll get to NASA in a second, because that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. But let's get into NASA for a second. OK, so, Sam, you know, there's always people in the government. and in the country that have a very different agenda than the president does. Trump's a classic example of people who downright hate him, hate him.

And they tried to get rid of him with legal warfare. I mean, they tried to accuse him of a thousand things. And they tried the Russian collusion. They tried impeachment. They did everything. I mean, they threw everything. The mainstream media was so lockstep with all the bullshit that they've lost all their credibility, you know, so and they should have.

And it was all because of this anti-Trump hysteria to the point where I think their backlash toward Trump has really done damage to the republic. It's not Trump. It's the left's. You know, so so Biden's preemptive pardon of everybody who was who could know who they think did that. Well, it was probably Jill Biden. Who knows? It was Pocahontas.

By the way, the problem with that is it really does make corruption in our government much easier now. Because Trump is going to go, I'm going to preemptively pardon everybody because I know you fuckers are going to come after me like you did last time. And so and I can't blame them. So we have now a level of graft and stuff in our government that is just unbelievable. And we're all looking the other way.

Government Lies and Widespread Corruption

Brian, can I ask you something? Yeah. Do you, as a grown man with multiple children and has a wonderful career and has lived all of his dreams. Yeah. Do you still believe there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq? No, but I do think the Iraqis did use germ warfare and chemical warfare against not just the Kurds, but the Iranians. But let me ask you something.

We're not talking about that. What we're talking about is weapons of mass destruction. Absolutely. But Sam, guess what? Even when they were doing that and making that argument, the country knew they were lying. So my point is this, Sam. No, I don't believe that at all. I don't believe that half the country. Well, there are a lot of people that have always hated our president. Sometimes it's half the country. Yeah, but would you agree that's a reason to hate them?

Like I saw Kid Rock taking a picture with George Bush. I mean, I'm sorry, dude. That's the second most embarrassing thing he ever did this year, Kid Rock. The first one was showing up as a gay figure skater in Trump's office. I mean, I'm sorry, dude. Wait, just follow me on this. What I'm trying to say is this, that within any presidential race in this country, you know, part of the way the framers set it up was that you live another day in four years. So the incentive.

is not so much to murder a president, which actually doesn't do as much as you want it to do. I disagree. The way to really affect change is to win an election. And to strategize and be nasty about it and all that and spread lies, whatever. So our country has always been, thank God, more about figuring out how to... leverage your party so that you can get your agenda out there with the people.

I don't think that it would have ever served anything if JFK was killed. And in fact, he was killed. I don't think the reason we didn't go into Cuba was because JFK died. You know, because when he did die, we didn't go into Cuba. Right? No, no, no, no, no. That's not, I never said that. Okay, all I'm trying to say is I'm saying in our republic, there are actually easier and more effective ways to cripple the people who are against your agenda. It takes a little while, but there just are.

To me, I don't know that murder and this long, elaborate plot with the Jewish mafia, with the Italian mob, with NASA and all that. NASA is nothing short than scientists. who wanted to study things like geophysics and the weather. Okay. But can we all agree it was started by Nazis? No, it wasn't started by Nazis. Okay, dude. But a lot of the brainpower in the... Man, you need to come back home. You need to come back home. I'm trying to save you.

A lot of the brainpower in the German war machine that was involved in trying to create a nuclear weapon and rocket propulsion was very valuable. What about the bell, Brian? What do you think about the bell? I don't know what the bell is. The bell is basically zero point energy flying saucers. Sam? Sam? What, Brian? Brian? Brian, it was well documented. That was a big part.

No, you wouldn't know how to read those documents. Neither would I. So now you're attacking me. Listen, Brian, I'm functionally illiterate. Wait till you have a lot of ad reads I had to do today by myself. So. Brian, the Nazis were literally started NASA. They started NASA. They started NATO. They basically re-kicked off. They turned the OSS into CIA. These are facts, Brian. I can't stop staring. I can't even look at you while I'm doing this. Brian, these are facts.

Tim, these are not facts. They are facts, bro. I'm trying to save you. No, the Nazis didn't start NASA. 100% they did. The Americans, the Allies, after the war, realized they had a lot of brainiacs in Germany sitting around, and we went... What do we do with these guys? Let's figure out what the fuck they were. Let me ask you something. If you're a, by all accounts, Von Braun was a complete and utter scumbag. If you believe all the stories coming out of Germany that he used to do.

unbelievably nasty shit in these i mean just do demoralizingly crippling stuff to the people in the camps Why did he come here and not even change his name? Can I ask you that? Why did he just show up in Seb's shop and be like, I am Von Braun, and he just kept going?

Because when I'm on the run, Brian, I've never been on a run because I own everything I do, brother. Okay, when I'm on the run, and let's say I go into a witness. I was looking at cities to move into Texas if I ever get the blessings to move. you know and this one of my friends on tour go don't move here i go why she goes that's where everybody who goes into the witness protection program goes okay because i'm not moving there but the point is brian that if i am a well-known war criminal

And I'm being brought over, and we can have a big debate whether they were brought over or they just crip-walked over and took over. We can have a real discussion about that. No, we couldn't because they didn't just take over. Yeah, they did. They 100%.

really brian i'll send you videos where they did uh 60 minutes back when they did good work where they went to canada and they found all these old nazis brian do you know what percentage of those nazis change their names when they moved do you know what percentage no but it's zero zero change their names you're not hiding when you don't change your names

Sam, no, no to what you're saying. Yes, to everything I say. NASA does very good work that we need. Okay. So the National Weather Service is run by NASA. So every farmer in the world in this country uses that data for free. Okay. You don't think it's a money laundering business? No. Well, no, of course not, because that would be a stupid thing to say. NASA scientists are actual astrophysicists who are involved in our satellite programs. They're involved in the space station.

And studying all kinds of stuff. Is that a little person? Yeah. It's not a monkey. Oh, my God. He's getting so big. Does he have a job yet, Brian? Is he helping pay the bills yet? I believe in child labor. What's that? He works in a coal mine. Thank God. We have good coal mines here, but he's also naked.

No monkey. Okay. Is he like in Texas? Is he already a Dallas Cowboy fan? He's been having so much fun. All right. Let me let daddy go and then I'll come and see it. I'll come and tuck you in. Oh, Brian's the best dad. Brian's the best dad. So, Brian, yeah, I mean, you have a complete lost view of it, and that's okay. That's why we love you on the show. No, no, but Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam. No, Brian. Sam, people in NASA are not, I know this is going to be a shock, right? Okay.

They're not Nazis. The people in NASA are quiet scientists with their PhDs in physics, math, and astrophysics. And they depend on NASA. Okay. Go to all the maritime trade, all the farmers that grow our food, and all the communications that we have, not to mention all the spy satellites. That's all NASA.

right we use these things and you should do yourself a favor one day you'll never do it and take a look for a second at not only what what you benefit from every day from their efforts but i have an idea but you would never do this you should go actually meet a real scientist at NASA.

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I asked them, how did that go to outer space? And they were like, the people there were like, it just did. It's okay, Brian, listen to me. You don't think that, wait, wait, do you think that, are you one of these guys who doesn't think that satellites are in the orbit?

I think they're in the orbit. I don't think they're what they tell us. They're not what they tell us? What do you mean? I don't think they're what they tell us. Do you think all those scientists are holding on to a secret? Well, Brian, here's the whole thing, dude. Is you don't move up to certain levels unless you play ball and everything is data. And, you know, so there's certain levels unless you play ball. What does that mean? That means like, so from little kids.

They're constantly doing data on us, dude. There's something called the gate program. Have you heard the gate program, Brian? Sam, there's not a group of people that are making scientists lie. 100% they are, Brian. All the top scientists at NASA go to work. They go to fake work and they do fake science and they're lying.

I think they're playing ball. You could do it to human beings? Yes, 100%. People will do anything for money and power, buddy. They're all making money under the table. No, they're making... have access to power they have access to do you feel this way about the archaeological Community? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%. Are they getting paid under the table too by the cabal? Brian, let's compare this to our media and our media friends and the people who play ball.

move up and the people who don't play ball get excommunicated and blackballed right that's because if you don't hold a certain ideological perspective why wouldn't that be anywhere else

Big Pharma: Progress and Profit Motives

Well, I think that science is a little bit different, right? And the reason I say science is different is because if you look at the progress that, for example... the big pharma has made in pushing us beyond our biology, for example, in childhood cancers. They've made some real progress in that. They're doing really great work with immunotherapy. So there's a lot that we rely on and we take for granted. But, you know, the fact that most of us. Brian, I heard your little clip with Jeff Dye.

And I just go, I love Brian so much. He just got this Achilles heel and his love of authority. It's not that Big Pharma isn't a for-profit business that does some questionable shit. Right. No question about that. What I try to always say is you can't throw the baby out with a bathwater. Okay, I got that, Brian. But, you know, I bet William Gacy, the serial killer, I bet he was a great kid's clown party.

I bet you he was great. I bet you there's some people go, listen, I know he murdered some people, but when he came here, his magic trick. John Wayne Gacy. Yeah, John Wayne Gacy. I'm pretty sure. When he came to our birthday party, that guy was amazing. His magic and his balloon game was fire. You're right, Brian. We shouldn't just go. Hey, William Gacy or whatever his name is, is a awful, awful person because he was at times really great at kids' parties. Like, you're right.

You could go, okay. You're comparing Big Pharma to John Wayne Gacy. Listen, let me tell you, Big Pharma's killed way more people than John Wayne Gacy. How many lives have they saved? How many lives have they saved? We'll never know. Well, hold on. Of course we'll know. So when you get MRSA and you're going... So when Pfizer gets the biggest lawsuit of all time in history, Brian, what does that mean? Okay, I'll tell you in a second.

So when you, when you get, for example, when you get staff or MRSA, when you've been wrestling, you go to your doctor and your doctor gives you what's called a prescription for a very specific antibiotic. And without it, you will probably die or they'll have to lop your arm off, okay? When you have a major heart condition or you have a rare form of cancer and they give you immunotherapy that puts you into remission.

There are a lot of people every day who are walking around who are alive, not just because of everyday infections that we stop, not because of the things that used to kill kids or sterilize them, like mumps, rubella and measles. Hooping cough is a big one. Hooping cough used to kill a lot of kids. So we know that, right? We just do.

And so this is revisionist history. We take it for granted. Not revisionist history, Brian. It's not. What it is, is a history sold to you by people who profit off it. No, it's not. It's not. Because novelists who talked about people dying of tuberculosis, novelists who talked about, you know, all the diseases that would roll through and kill people. It's not true. I mean, you can just go back as far as John.

Steinbeck to realize what it was like in the rural South. You know, so I don't think that, or the rural, I'm sorry, the rural West, or, you know, wherever it was, or in the East, you can't really say that because The evidence is so overwhelming that, in fact... That's the only evidence you get to see, Brian. Your algorithm doesn't allow you to see anything else, Brian. I don't worry about my algorithm.

Yeah, your algorithm is lying to you. I'm going to send you a shirt that says your algorithm is lying to you. You've not... You just don't know enough about all the things that these companies and science does. And because you're not, you only listen to conspiracy.com YouTube.

Censorship and Questioning Sacred Cows

videos okay i can't because i can't find them because they're shadow banned and that's an interesting thing brian it's like why my whole thing has always been this no matter what sacred cow you believe okay If you're saying we can't discuss it, I'm not saying that's what you're saying right now, but there are certain sacred cows out there that people aren't allowed to talk about. And I go, why? If I'm an open book and I have my personal life that I just want to be left alone on, but...

For the most part, I'm an open book. I talk about I flung first grade. You know, I got bitch tits. I'm functionally illiterate. All that stuff. I can't stretch. I'm the worst white belt in the history of jiu-jitsu. I mean, all this stuff that I'm pretty open about my...

weaknesses right and i i have these things i talk about and i let people talk about it but there are things out there and i don't want to get into it because it's going to bring us into even another thing but that you're not allowed to talk about and i go well if we can't talk about so when we looked at the i can't say the word because it's gonna go on youtube but during the 2020s when something was going on do you know what i'm talking about

And there were doctors going, this doesn't make any sense. Why is that? And they were threatened with losing their medical licenses. And now today we're having giant hearings. We were totally lied to about everything. well my theory on that my theory is not say the word because my theory on that is a conspiracy i do have a conspiracy on that it's very possible that that gain of function research that was being done was a was a military a government military project

and that Fauci is more than just what he says he is. And so it's very possible that they got caught doing gain-of-function research for military reasons. And then there was a lab leak. and then they had to cover their asses it's very possible okay so brian we can go through all this stuff atrociously and they will pay and the country will pay i don't know

I don't know. I don't know if people will pay. When was the last time somebody paid? A fall guy named Oliver North. Well, sure, but you know, also like when you have CNN having a ticker and you have hospitals that make money for saying this is a... you know, a COVID death. You know that this was all bullshit. Now, again, now, now, now, yes. But guess what, Sam? Follow the money. And you know what else? We knew it pretty quickly. We knew it pretty quickly.

It's hard to keep a secret. And that's all. I would say Trump won the election based on. Even though he was the guy who was pushing Remdesivir.

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Why Secrets Are Hard to Keep

Listen to me, buddy. I want to say this. It's like, so you're at a place where you go, there was a conspiracy. Yes. Okay. So why? Can't you apply that to anything else? Because the most basic thing is there is a conspiracy means two or more people conspired. I'll tell you my very simple answer. When there's a conspiracy, there are people on the outside. within the same department, within the same area. And people don't like to be left out in the cold. And they certainly don't like to be lied to.

And most people don't like to lie as a career forever. Most of us are looking for something like that. Brian, real quick, a great example. Biden's mental state as as they told us not. And all the and now Jack. You had the press secretary, that weird vampire looking guy who's saying to Israel wasn't committing. these crimes. And now that he's out of work and he's doing interviews, he's now saying 100% they did. And he literally says, I had to tow the government line.

But think about what that is, Brian. You're 100% right to not be trustful. I've always said that your mistrust is very good. I just think it's very interesting that we always know eventually that we were being lied to. And I think we always know we were being lied to because there are too many people on the other side watching this shit.

And there are too many people whose conscience gets the best of them. They go, you know what? I got to be honest. This is this. They come clean because pretty soon we all look at it and we all go, hey, what's going on here, man? Like, no. This doesn't make sense, especially when there's no results. Eric Weinstein has taken a lot of heat because he's gone bad on all the string theorists.

I don't get involved in this, but I had him on my podcast. I will say this about Eric Weinstein. When you have a body of physics over 40 years that hasn't really produced any tangible results, You know, like since the seventies, that's, that's, that's his argument anyway. I'm sorry if anybody's, I don't know enough, but if that is true, that's an, that's a very effective argument. Cause now we all go, what do you think about people? Sorry.

I'm sorry, but then what do you think about people who say that Big Pharma hasn't cured anything ever? Well, they would have to they'd have to defend the fact that it cures things all the time. And the basic things are just the MRSA. The basic things are the things that we all take for granted. But also that like so testicular cancer that Lance Armstrong had. was 100% fatal until they came out with a really interesting, and it's in his book, compound that has platinum in it.

And now it's 100% curable almost, right? So there are a lot of things that are curable. A lot of throat cancers are curable. Prostate cancer, a lot of breast cancer. They've made real progress, but mainly blood diseases are incredible. Hard tumors in some areas. are harder but blood diseases blood cancers have we've made striking progress and we have the children to prove it so so

AI Arms Race and Data Collection Fears

That is an ignorant thing to say. And it's always coming from somebody who's not a doctor or a scientist. They're just dumb. They're also unfair. We are making progress. AI, let's say AI is a great one. AI terrifies me. And it's going to make our lives probably easier. And it's also going to destroy maybe so many of our jobs. And not only is it going to destroy so many of our jobs, maybe it'll destroy us. I don't know. It's terrifying. When you have the leading...

the godfather of AI, saying these systems are practicing cheating, self-deception, and worst of all, self-preservation. Oh, my God. And we don't really know what's happened. Well, and when the safety teams in the AI labs are going, hey, there's an arms race with Russia, China, and the United States, and we're going to get to general AI, and then what? It is disconcerting. Okay, so what's your take on Palantir? Sorry? What's your take on Palantir?

Palantir is a defense contracting company. Right. But what do you think of the new thing that's going on? Have you heard about it? No. What's going on? So Trump has given like half a trillion dollars, I think, or a hundred billion or some crazy ass number. to Palantir to basically create a system that will gather all data on all Americans. Big problem. Big problem. And what it will be able to do is sort out your data instantly.

All in the name of convenience and safety. Well, they're telling you it's to track illegals, but that's what they sell you on. And then Trump's big, beautiful budget that can't pass right now has something in it which states... That no state is allowed to regulate or pass any laws in any way to stop the advancement of AI. What are your thoughts on that?

I don't know if that's a bill. I don't know what that means. It might be. It sounds like there's more to the bill than that. Well, let's say you put on Brian Kellen hat and you're like, you love authority. So I think I think that's a Malachian spiral. So in other words. I think that what we're doing is competing toward hell because- Whoa, Brian.

Yes. Nice. We're trying to outdo China and Russia. And what we're doing is competing this way. And we're spiraling into hell. And that hell may be our mutual destruction. And until we can come up with some kind of global pause, global cooperation, the way we did with nuclear testing under the Kennedy administration, I don't know what the answer is. But this is very scary.

And the one who comes up with the best AI is going to be the one to rule the world. Yeah. A theory I'm pushing around, Brian, is that, and I'm not saying China isn't powerful. Like, would you say the USSR was powerful at a point? I don't think they're powerful at all. Well, I think that's what we're doing with AI.

what we did with russia nukes we're doing with china we're like oh we got to keep up with them and then everyone's got to keep up with them and then they get all the money all the funding and everyone's demanding to be safe and it's just an arms race to sell to build a AI out. Sure. And it's being, we're being sold on. Well, you're also going to have your boy, Peter. What's his face? Peter. Scion. Scion. What are your thoughts on him? Still, still fan.

Geopolitics: China and Demographics

Yeah, I think Peter is – I mean, I'm always astonished at how much he knows, the details of what he knows. I think he's more right than he is wrong. I know that some people have had a –

said he's some sort of controlled op or whatever. But I really do believe that China's economy isn't as strong as they're telling us it is. 100%. And they have a major... demographics problem so does the united states well brian i'll get even deeper i think their population isn't even near as high as they think as we're being told you can find videos of people going to china and going

Where are the people? There's nobody here. They find whole, not just like these ghost cities they talk about, but it's like abandoned cities. There's nobody in these cities. I went to go to India. They're everywhere. I was in one. I was in an abandoned city. I saw it in Beijing, on the outskirts of Beijing, about an hour and a half outside of Beijing. So it's 100% true. And, you know, I just think that I think that we

Spirituality, Reality, and Antisemitism Laws

we can really get ourselves in major trouble through our arrogance and our worship of false gods and our quest for perfection. And I think that this is why I'm always... always talking about faith and why I think sometimes God is the only way to go. And I'm serious about it.

You know, somebody said, what do you do about Israel and Gaza and the Palestinians? And then somebody said, oh, that's for God to figure out. It's like, damn, you know, I mean, certainly the Bible would certainly say that. But, you know. Thomas Campbell was on Joe Rogan, and Thomas Campbell said this is a virtual reality and that we are all data streams of consciousness.

And so general consciousness has broken up into different pieces. And it's up to us to resonate. When you resonate with love, when you resonate with love, your state of entropy lowers. You're a state of disorder. You age better. You don't break down as fast. But when you resonate with love and you resonate with just giving love and understanding, you will be healthier.

When you tell the truth, you will be healthier. No, I understand that. So what are your thoughts on these anti-Semitism laws that are passing? I don't know if they're passing. There are a lot in states. You're in one of them. Texas has a very strong anti-Semitism law. That comes from Christianity. That's the Christian right here.

which believes that to create a safe Israel is when the Messiah comes back. I understand that. So you're dealing with a very, you're dealing with a strong evangelical... presence. I don't know. I don't know if that they've been trying to pass those laws for a very long time and it hasn't worked when push comes to shove. So because what happens is it grates against free speech. And there are just as many free speech.

proponents in the conservative party as there are, you know, who are pushing for. And in fact, what a lot of conservatives do with the evangelicals is they placate them. They go, yeah, we're going to get to this, you know, and it never happens.

Israel-Gaza Conflict and Its Future

I've never seen this kind of open anti-Semitism. I think that what Israel has done in Gaza has been terrible for the Jewish diaspora. And I think it's been terrible for Israel. Do you think they make it out of there? Do you think Israel has a future based on what they've done? I think that if you're Netanyahu... If you're Israel, you say, the world is going to be outraged. We're going to do the dirty work. We're going to clear Gaza. We'll either move the Palestinians out. We'll keep them in.

refugee camps in the South, the United Nations will sanction us, the world will be outraged, and then ultimately they'll forget about them. the arab world i i don't i don't see that happening why do i say that because the abraham accords because as long as israel has a deal with the gulf states the money like saudi arabia

and it's brokered by the United States, they believe they can weather that storm. Yeah, we're going to find out who's stronger, humanity or the Babylonian bankers. And I don't know how Israel makes it out of this. I don't. I don't know how they make it out of it. My belief is that the EU is going to move in soon and start to regulate it. It is. I don't know.

I don't know. These things have a strange way of rippling, don't they? I think that Netanyahu is playing a role. I think he will ultimately pay the price. And he will possibly have his name seen as this awful thing. Some extremists will look at him as a hero. Others will say his name as one of the worst people to ever live in the history of time.

I don't see people allowing this to go back. I don't see people thinking this is okay. I'm actually shocked at the level of just complete and utter like brainwashing with. people killing children. I feel that my views on this has caused me to have certain comedians not want to work with me in certain times, but. When I look at these kids, I go, they're my daughter's age. And to think my daughter knows any sins of the father is actually so actually just psychotic to me, dude.

It's psychotic. It's hard to bear. It's almost impossible to bear. And, you know, this Palestinian said, he said, what do you expect Israel to do? And he kept saying, not this. not this yeah i mean and sometimes that's appropriate you can say like i think dave smith kind of said that to douglas he's like

You know, do you think it's a good thing that children are trapped under rubble and being tortured to death? These are questions. Now, I know you can be very logical about it and say Hamas wanted this. This was the strategy for Iran. I get it. Is this response out of proportion? Is this response serving all of us, including Israel and the Jewish diaspora?

And the answer, there's a lot of people who have an intelligent answer for that. And they usually say, no, you don't get away with this at the end of the day. You don't get away with it in your conscience, in your heart. It's very hard to get away with this. Now, Hamas let the hostages go, but they won't. And the idea is, if you're Israel, if we don't crush Hamas now...

then they'll be back tomorrow. The other, the rebuttal to that is Hamas is an idea. It's not people. It's an idea. But also, like, what do you take of Netanyahu constantly bragging about forming? Hamas. It's like problem, reaction, solution. Hamas was supported by the Israelis because it was a bulwark against Fatah and the PLO. So divide and conquer kind of thing, right? But what do you think about things like.

uh, a project for Israel in the 1980s, the Ben-Gurion project. Um, the, the, um, I got the names all here. I want to read them to you. So you could, you probably might not know them, but these are all, these are, these are.

all things that these are called strategy for israel in the 1980s project for a new american century the mass hannibal directive the dia doctrine gaza 2035 the ben urian canal project the greater israel project these are all documented uh projects that israel's been working on like this fits into that so

I don't think Israel has ever wanted Gaza because if you look at Gaza, nothing grows there. If you look at the Old Testament, Gaza was always a wasteland. It just was. I mean, it was just like, that's why they had to bring green. But it allows them access to the sea.

which allows them to have a new. They never gave a shit about that because they have access. Well, they could control trade routes through there. Yeah, they control the ports anyway. That's never been a thing. It just doesn't hold water. I don't think they ever gave a shit about Gaza, frankly. I think Gaza's always been a god.

can land i i disagree buddy i think i know i'm i disagree dude i think this is all part of a bigger plan and and and netanyahu sees why not right now why not go for it You know, my answer to your question, though, could also be there are people that believe in total destruction of the enemy.

and total destruction is world war ii destruction it's turned that place into the surface of the moon yeah the diet doctrine overwhelming everybody out and they're realizing history has been full of that full of that when we should know that so

There is a contingent of people that takes that very seriously and has said, we are going to take Gaza. We are going to move all the Palestinians to Jordan or to Egypt. And that's the way it goes. And the world will be outraged. And in 40 years, they'll forget about it. Yeah. And if you move the Palestinians to Libya, they will instantly become slaves. And it's an even worse reality for them if they leave and they won't because their existence is their resistance. And.

Accepting What We Cannot Fix

You know what I'm learning at 52? Everything is fucking talk. Everyone talks a good game. Everybody's always like love and peace and all this shit. In reality, we got a bunch of fucking lizards fucking just murking people. But Sam, can I tell you something that's a really hard pill to swallow that I actually believe in? I hate saying it out loud. I really do. I had to come to terms with this.

And I realized, and my mother said it, who speaks Arabic, who lived in the Arab world for 16 years of her life. Your father's a master of mankind. Go on. I lived in Lebanon. I grew up around the Palestinians. My mother said, this is not your fight. And more importantly, you can't do a thing about it. I understand that last part, but we are supplying weapons. It's a tough thing to say out loud.

But if you turn your back on it, dude, it's like the whole pager thing, right? Everyone's like, wow, that was so great. It's like, bro, if they could do that to them, they could do it to you. I think there's something in America where they look at world history and they go, this will never happen here. I would say this. I would say this. I'm not asking for people to be complacent.

And a lot of people aren't because they're outraged. What I'm saying is that there are a lot of situations in the world. A lot. A lot. Gaza is just visible. Just visible. No, Congo, Yemen. We can go on forever. Exactly. Where you find yourself shaking your head and saying a prayer. And sometimes that's the only thing I can manage.

I hate saying it out loud. I really do, because we know as men, we want to fix the world, right? As people, we want to fix the world. Certainly as Americans, as Western-minded people, we want to fix the world. Alan Watts, we'll close with this. Alan Watts said, any sensible person knows you can't improve yourself because the part that needs to be improving is the part you want to improve. The part that's going to do the improving is the part you have to improve.

And anybody knows you can't improve yourself and you can't improve the world. And when you walk into a room and you want to turn everything on the right side up, there's always a downside down. And so it's a world of opposites.

Lighthearted Conspiracy and Wrap Up

It's a world of opposites. All right, Brian, we're going to end on this. What do you think about Marcon's trans dad wife? That's his dad and she's trans. What do you think about that? It's her dad. It's his dad. I think that that's the only conspiracy that I agree with wholeheartedly. Oh, wow. Wow, Brian. You've had some moments here. I don't think she was a man. I don't know. He was a man.

I know that's what Candace Owen says. She also believes Israel killed JFK. And there's a lot of stuff there. I just don't buy it. But listen, anything's possible, baby. Anything's possible. It's a hell of a transition. So listen, Brian, as we wrap up here, I want to say thank you for doing this. I love you very much. I miss you. I don't see you like I used to. All my friends have moved.

I'm sorry to have been a little rough on you and to really have. I mean, you're going to get your dick kicked in, in the comment section, but that's okay. It's okay, dude. Everyone's going to be so excited. The boys are back, but listen, Brian, where are you going to be? Buddy, I'll be July 5th. I'm at the Brea Improv. Are you taking a month off? Yes. I just did that May. It was the best thing ever. It's great to be with the family.

So I'll be there July 5th. I'll see you guys on July 5th at Bray Improv. You should come down and do a guest set. I'd love that. I would love to come by and say hi, Brian. So I'm Sam Tripoli, winner of today, of course. I said minimum words. Still one. That is called efficiency. If you go to SamEEE.com, you'll see all my dates. I'm back on the roads in June. And my new crowd work special called Black Crack Robots.

is out now on YouTube. It's on my Sam Tripoli comedy channel. You can find it at samtripoli.com. You can find it on Twitter. You can find all my stuff there. It's everywhere all the time. I got another one dropping.

uh called potty mouth i say the f word way too much in this special but i thought it was funny so i want to put it out that is dropping i think this sunday so two crowd work specials coming out back to back jacks and uh besides that can't complain so I love you guys very much Brian you're one of my favorite people on the planet I love seeing you

back on the stage at the mothership and just being loved like you should be. You're one of the best people. Be there tonight. We miss you. I miss you too. We'll be there soon. And we want to, one more time, congratulate Dylan on his baby. And we will see you soon. Take care, everybody. Thanks. Thanks for watching. Bye. Where are you going right now?

Outro and Final Clips

They crank the 5G up and then we just all get shaken and baked in the microwave. I love it. I didn't say that, you absolute moron. There is no dinosaurs. Those are Nephilim giants from the Bible. And Lucifer is in the Vatican? Yes. Oh, okay. Got it. I think space is probably like just a giant liquid. Build it up. Feel the wealth. When it's about to collapse. Release the gays. Are you going to get the jab? Never.

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