What is going on? Everyone? Welcome to another episode of conspiracy or just a coincidence? I am Jack Allen. First, just go follow me at Cojack Podcast, and that's where you can find me everywhere. But tonight, I've got two heavy hitters in the truth world. Very excited, Don and Tony. Don Jeffries, thanks for coming, buddy. How are you doing today? Wonderful. It's always great to be with you, Jack, and it's especially great to be with the incredible Tony Hartburn. And I'm the perfect
intro Tony. Thank you. What's going on? How's life? A life is good? I'm still here. I'm still alive and I was able to keep my business afloat and do podcast and talk to Don Jeffries, talk to Jack Allen. I mean, what's there to complaint about? I love it, dude, I love it. Well. First, I just wanted to so I wanted to start with this top because every time I see rfkat Annie Kennedy when I'm reading in the news whatever, there's one man that immediately comes
to mind, not Kennedy, and that's Don Jeffries. So I wanted your take Don, as you know a Kennedy extraordinair. What your thoughts were with RFK and he is officially running right, He threw like he is he yeah, okay, so yeah, so I wanted to your thoughts, your thoughts on him. Well, uh, you know, as I've said many times, I've told you before Air, I I'm biased, and I know I'm
probably naive or people tell me I'm naive. You know, I believe in these you know, I kind of I get fooled by Tucker Carlson and you know, so I'm looking for hope like everybody is. But I don't pretend to look at this rationally. Bobby Kennedy his father. I was a little kid, and that's when I first became interested in politics. I followed the primaries. I started understanding the political process a little bit. With his dad. He was a very romantic campaign and you know, he had a big
poster that everybody had. It was him on the beach with his dog, you know, and he just really he was There was something about him that really lit a spark and me. And when he was assassinated, it just crushed me. You know, it just it just took the sales out. I mean I didn't really associate it yet with any kind even with his brother's
death. But I know it had a huge impact on me. So when you see somebody like this Bobby Kennedy Junior, same name, looks very much like him and is talking about way more radical stuff than his dad did. Now, whether he means that, you know, Tony and Billy Ray and I've talked about. You know, he's got some very problematic quotes in the past about climate change, but wanting to throw people in jail and all that.
So I hope he's evolved from that. I hope. And but he's you know, on some of the things that David Knight talks about, whether he's talking about the santis or or RFK Junior or whatever. He sounds great on a lot of issues. I mean, he realized what do we have? I mean, if you can get somebody, That's what the appeal to Trump was for me. Immigration, I really care about the other stuff.
So if they're really good on an important issue, Bobby is really good about I think the suppression of subliberties and what COVID did in the lockdown and the vaccines and all that. And he's very good on foreign policy too. He's talking about the neo con foreign policy and we've got to stop engaging everywhere else, so you know, on those and of course he's most importantly he's the first presidential candidate in history that is coming out and saying there was a conspiracy,
saying the CIA did it. He's basically and the government killed his uncle and his father. So you can't ask for much more than that from the political candidates we get. And I'm shocked that he's at twenty or percent more in the polls because I figured they would use these polls like they did at Dennisk Descentach and my friend Cynthia McKinney had just claimed there are one percent, So I don't know. That kind of makes me wondering maybe they have some
plans for him. I don't know, because they're not holding him at the one percent level. Because I have a hard time believe he's polling at twenty percent in today's Democratic Party, to tell you the truth, you know, because I don't know who agrees in there. So we'll see what happens. But right now, you know, just that's cautiously optimistic. But he's however you look at it, he's going to make the campaign a lot more interesting. Oh, I like Tony any what are your thoughts on is RFKR guy?
Is he going to come in? Well? I think we've should learn a lot of lessons from the Trump arrows that one person, a man or a woman, can't be the solution, and Washington really isn't a solution. But I agree with Don on so much of this. And if you know your history, you look at the Kennedy family, especially RFK um There's a reason why Henry Kissinger is a hundred and the Kennedy's are dead. Okay, I mean they stood for something. I mean, thank God for the Kennedy
brothers. If you know anything about the Cuban missile crisis, I mean they stood in the breach of all the advice from Dean Atchison, kurliss LeMay, and they had they had all these they brought it. I mean Dean Atchison was the Secretary of State under Truman. They brought him back to say what would you do? It was all air strikes followed by invasion, the Cuban missile crisis that would have started World War three, and that it was the
Kennedy brothers. And of course it was RFK who went in with the Soviet ambassador and they had a back channel communicate with Cruise Chiff to trade the Jupiter missiles in Turkey that were about to expire. They weren't really useful, but they were still nuclear weapons that we had in Turkey. It's kind of like, you know, we do this with NATO now, like, well, why don't you mind us being right on your border? We wouldn't stand for it either, And I think if you look at the history, there's a
reason why. And you know RFK Jr. Says out in the open, which I think this is one. This is a great thing to have. I don't care. I don't know where he is on life. I don't know where he is on the Second Amendment. But God blessed him for talking about things like the JAB and talking about foreign policy and talking he was went out, it was in the it was a great speech at the Bitcoin conference. I thought that was magnificent. And he addressed the environmental issues of it.
He's addressed the individual sovereignty issues. So he's really strong. It's great to see that. But they're gonna hack him. I think that no matter how this stacks up, he's the He's the best person running right now. Yeah, hands down, Like far and away. I know that we'll get into you know, the Trump the Santist thing. But I'm watching. I'm watching RFK JR. Truly because I think he has a lot of great things
to say, and I would I would. I think he's a genuine human being who's standing up against them, the deep state, the the continuity of corruption. It has ruled this country for decades now. UM So I think it's positive. Will I be voting, Will I be out canvassing? No, I won't. I won't be doing any of that. Um I've given up on that process for national candidates. But I'd love to see it.
You know, I'd love to see a Ron Paul type. I don't know who that would be other than Ron Paul, but I'd love to see somebody like that. I just think it's wonderful when you when you inject real issues into debate. And I think that's something that Ron Paul showed us, I mean, and Trump showed us. Unfortunately he didn't, he didn't mean it, but it was it was too People want to hear the issues, you
just don't get to see them. The you know, the donor class for both parties doesn't want any of these talking points, so you just stay on surface level issues like Democrats are bad, right or something like that. Right, not really anything good, But RFK, He's coming out and I love to see it. I'm a fan. Well, who do you think would be? But either one of you, like who would vote for him? That's where I keep like thinking about, like, who's voting for this?
Do you know what I mean? Well? I think I think you know him him running as a Democrat. I think he's kind of still living in nineteen sixty eight because the Democratic Party has moved so much that I would imagine he will get a lot of Trump voters. I think more than that, I think, but I don't. I don't know a lot of them are so loyal to Trump. But Trump has also lost a lot, and I'm
not sure about the Santis. You know, some of them seemed to like him, and others are swayed by Trump's you know, juvenile name calling and stuff like that, whereas you know, I think it's pretty stupid. But uh so, Yeah, I think he's he's gonna draw from and I think all firstly, he's the only candidate in town. For those of us that are skeptical about the vaccine. You're certainly not gonna vote for Trump, who's bragging about it, Biden and any other Democrat And uh, well the Santis
Santa says it was was good about the lockdowns. I guess he said some things about it, but I don't think he's ever questioned the vaccine. So I think mostly independent voters will be going after I F. Kenned Joan and maybe there's some old line Democrats that will be swayed by just the Kennedy name and they'll it'll bring back nostalgia. That's another Robert F. Kennedy. Interesting.
Yeah, Tony, you that's like what I just don't even if you know whether elections are legitimate, you have such I mean, you've watched on Twitter. You have this Trump versus the Santis, and you certain figure is probably being paid by both sides defending one or attacking the other. I just I don't know it's gonna be I feel like no one's even such a our like our little community pay attentions to to OURFK. We like what he says, but beyond that, um and I just it's like it's such a small
group, but it's gonna be really tough for him. They already circling the wagons around Biden saying they're not even gonna have debates, They're not gonna open up the primary is to the process. How undemocratic is so funny? Like remember the number of twenty sixteen. They're like, oh, no, Bernie didn't win because I have super delegates. Right, you may have gotten more votes, but I have super duper delgates. Like you don't even know.
It's just a mockery of everything that we hold dear or when we perceive as the United States of America is these two parties, these disgusting entities, these parasites that are killing us. And they're like, who do you like? You know, like Bill's a bubb or Satan. I'm like, I don't like the one. I don't know you like Jeffrey Dahmer or Ted Bundy. I don't like it. I don't like either one. I think he's gonna have a hard time in the party system. You know, And there's so
many laws. People don't realize this too. There's laws in certain states like Texas. Here's something you probably didn't know. If you vote in the primary of a party, if you take part in any way in a primary of either party, you cannot run is a candidate, you cannot run as an independent candidate. Later, what do you mean? So if you vote, like if you voted a minute, or you vote at all, in any party, you cannot take part and you cannot run as an independent candidate.
And Texas thing, So that's just Texas. Imagine what all these other states have that rigged against the individual so like just to just get ballot access. That's why Perot was so important in ninety two. He kind of came out of nowhere. He shook up the political process. He had a big enough name, he had a big enough bank roll, and he was able to shake it up. I was I mean, I was the first political paper I ever wrote. Like I was twelve years old. I remember I talked
about this the other night. My stepmother thought that my dad wrote it. It's like, why would you do that? I would you write his paper? I was like, Oh, I was interested. I was twelve years brow and he was shaking things up. I thought it was great. Yeah, he would need to do something like that. It would need to in order to really change anything, we have to leave the parties. I'm sorry, it has to do. I mean, if you really want to make
chance, you have to leave the parties. You have to and it's gonna be You're not gonna win at first. It's gonna take. But I think we need to fracture it, you know that. You know the Kennedy I mean JFK said to take the CIA and smash it into a thousand pieces and scatter it to win. Same thing with the political process. Interesting, Yeah, yeah, I totally totally agree. It's just I would look like I guess I every four years, I just I think don I were talking about
before. I know, everyone's so corrupt and they're they're these you know, backstabbing people, they're hypocrites. But each four years where I'm like, man, maybe maybe I know it's a very small chance, but maybe this person is gonna even like Trump, I think I see, you know, I'm like, I find myself gravitating towards Trump because this propaganda is so good at
bringing bringing you back or giving you hope. Or maybe it's me that's refusing to let go of hope that somebody we can vote in to change us for the better. But I don't know, well Trump Trump is and I was at our friend, Vince Agnelli. Tony knows very well. I had we had our weekly or monthly lunch. Sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry sorry sorry sorry about that. I hit my like thing there. Sorry about that. Sorry, don continue, No, no problem,
I said the Vince Agnelli and I am good friend. Tony knows that met through our you know, him being on David Night showing me being on there. Um, we have a lunch together every month. And uh, most of the guy as he's with her, very right wing. Most probably at least half of them still support Trump. Of course Vince doesn't. But I was I don't debate him too much, but this guy, I was just
saying, you know, I really admire your face, man. I mean, because he's saying all the things about you know, this time he comes back, it's going to be different everything. I said, I have to admire your faith. I try to say something positive because because at that point
you have to because Trump Trump Trump could get me back constantly. You know, even before the vaccine, he could say something really great or and I thought, well, maybe he's finally gonna do something, you know, And but you know, after he left the office, and he didn't depart in the songs, and then he's bragging about the vaccine. I don't know how he sells anybody on anything at this point, but he's still got millions of
people that are loyal to him. Dude. I mean, on Twitter, it's a bad I'm sure you see it's you know, I live on Twitter, but I see people that I like right wing counts that six months ago would never didn't pick a side, and you obviously someone's paying their paycheck because it's just a bad that. You know, every statement action, it's like, oh, this is why you know Desantists is better, this is why Trump is better. It's do you think it's I mean, I don't know
if this meant but isn't this going to destroy Desantist is? Like why do you think he's even running it? I don't understand. It seems like it's just creating conflict in the the GOP. That doesn't seem If I was the king of the GOP, i'd say not the time, like next, you know, keep running Florida. Um, but its like, do you think
it's just their personalities or what is it? Tony? You want me to go, well, well, yeah, I would just say quickly that I think that, you know, DeSantis again, like David Night, I feel the same way about him as I do. He's he's got a lot of obviously troubling aspects. He's he's even more devoted to Israel than Trump is. But so you have no choice there. Uh, you know, he wants to sign that law about basically making it a crime or something to be anti
Semitic. It's very troubling Ledgislason there in Florida. But on the other hand, he is he seems to have done some things unlike Trump. He seems to have like done some things to combat critical race theory and transgenderism propaganda in schools. He has gone against the lockdown most of the time, and at least initially he was on record as saying we shouldn't be involved in you know, the Ukraine nonsense, but then he seemed to backtrack the day or two
later or something. So is any good? I don't know. Somebody put a gun to my head and I thought they were counting the votes I would vote, and I had to vote for somebody, I would vote for him over you know, any of the Democrats step rfk Jr. But he's you know, he actually has a better track record of having done things rather than Trump. Trump has never done anything except tweet. He says more radical stuff. But then you have, you know, supposedly Jeff Bush backs him.
I don't know if that's true or not. Tony would probably know that or not. So it's troubling when people like that. BACU. But and I certainly don't trust him. But you know, like I said, we don't think they're counting the votes anyway. Although I will say the more I want to look around the people and Billy Ray and it doesn't he seems pretty skeptical about how much fraud there was in the twenty twenty election. But I think again that's because how it feels about Trump largely. But you know, I
think that they don't need to engage in much massive fraud anymore. Again, if you just look at I look at my neighbors. I look at the people, and I see the Democratic signs in their yards and I don't see it. I mean, I see the people driving around with masks on and nobody in their car. You know, these people that look at the crazy TikTok teachers, the transgenders themselves, the pussy hat wearers, they're voting for somebody? Who are they voting for? So I I don't think they need.
I do think they robbed Carry Lake in Arizona. I do think there was some fraud there, but I don't think. You know, they don't have to do much, and they wouldn't have to do much to tip the election, for instance, to try. I think Trump did probably win the twenty twenty election, but he would never win in a landslide because half the country is divided and half the country hates him. So that's what's crazy that
people, the Republicans are still living in it. They think this is like the Reagan years or something that because of your open border policy, the demographics have changed. You're never going to have that again. So now you're outnumbered, so they don't need. They may eventually just say, yeah, you know, we're actually gonna let them vote because they know they know these people are gonna vote Tony. What do you? What do you? I know
we kind of change to that was my changes to Trump and disantist. But why why why are they both running? They I thought they were like friends. What's what's the point of us? Well, you can't make money if you stay home, right, there's a whole host of things that can happen when you run for president. I mean, you get to you could pick
up a certain amount of delegates, makes you a power player. Maybe you don't maybe you don't know that you can be president, but you think maybe you could be Secretary of State, or you could be head of the UN or not the ambassador of the UN. You could be a number of things. I mean, remember Rick Perry, he couldn't remember the three agencies he wanted to cut, but one of them was the Department of Energy, and Trump made him the head of the Department of Energy. Right, there's the
things that you get sometimes when you run. So I think, uh, it is kind of a weird that the Santis. Of course it doesn't. I mean Ted Cruz was backed by the Bushes, you know in Texas, like, oh, Ted Cruiz, he's a lie. He's a great guy. You know, he's so he party esque and all this, and you know he's a he's a bush guy. You know, they really fool values voters. And it's funny because nothing ever changes. I was talking about this
today on my show. I mean, we have Greg Abbott in Texas and Greg Abbott thinks it's very strong, very strong rock Red State Republicans, which all other issue with Red State. But he's he ships people from that are you know, apprehended at the border. He puts them on a bus and sends him to a sanctuary city. Well you could secure the border, you know, like, you know, we all live here in this country.
That you're sending people that are I mean, and and people from Texas like, oh he's strong on the border really got my back and I think we have lost all equalibering and accountability. There was a back in there's a little known don knows this, I know, but two thousand and seven ish, somewhere in there, there was a big push for a North American union. They were going to run the NAFTA super highway, the Trans Texas Corridor was gonna be cut through Texas condo. Lisa Rice went out to I think it
was Baylor and spoke there. They talked about the union of Mexico and Canada and all this stuff. Well, Texans, there was a last gasp of demographics of people left over like blue dog Democrats, and I mean, there was a whole host. Now those people are passed away. Unfortunately, a big chunk of them are gone. Yeah, but they had to play kate to them, so you had a pale face. George W. Bush go in front of the country and was like, we're gonna put a fans on
the border. You know. He was, now I'm gonna, I'm president, We're gonna do and Hillary Clinton voted for it. So they kind of quashed that that demographic is gone. I've never heard that phrase called blue blue blue dog. Yeah, blue dog. Didn't say. My friend Congressman Ralph Hall, I was another thing I was gonna say. I was friends with Congressman Ralph Hall. Have got his Hall for Congress up here above my I ran against him. We got to be really good friends. And he told
me one day we were talking. He goes, you know, Tony, I've looked in the mirror every morning for ninety He was ninety ninety years old, and he goes, I've never seen a president and this is a guy. He put Ronald Reagan on hold, by the way, he like he wanted to always do. Ronald Reagan called him on the phone when he was congressman. He said, put him on hold. I want him say that I did it. And so he had a real sense of humor. But he's like I would he goes, I gotta I can't can't imagine running for
presidents. You gotta think of the ego that you have. So, I mean we already know Trump right, he's a deeply wounded narcissist, as Tay cob As his former lawyer said, um, but you know de Santis Harvard Yale. See the thing is I'm with Don like if you said, okay, you know it's Kamala Harris or or Rhonda Santists or it's an even nicky Haley, because I'd be like, oh, you know that war. I
mean just like needs war, like to survive. I don't know if it's like there's a ticking time but somewhere like she's gonna expire if they doesn't have a war. But I don't trust Rohnda Santists on war. I don't trust him on on the politics that matter to me, or like ending the American Empire, restoring our fiscal accountability, restoring our sanity, restoring checks and balances.
I just see an extension of the Bush dynasty. I mean, we cheer people like Rohn decentists too, because he did his job like and that's no one does that anymore. So it's like the bar is so low, yes, like you're like, yeah, we're just I mean, look at the Christian rights hero is Elon Musk, a guy who wants to implant the internet into your head, who does not, who wears the costume of Baphomet, and he Novus orders the chlorum on the back of his mean, that's
the hero of the Christian right now. And I just I have to get off this train. It's like I don't know where I belong. I know that I'm making I which you know in your life back about paychecks the conservatives, there's and you mentioned Abbott, and I try to tell people this all the time when they and I think, what that guy that love Trump was giving me the same argument here all the time for conservatives, Well he can he doesn't have the authority to put the border to put the border prol out
there, and said, well wait a minute, what happened? And when Desantist pulled his very entertaining stunt of you know, sending the migrants to at Martha's vineyard, and it was entertaining as hell. It was great, We've just revealed what we already knew how horrible hypocrites these people are. What did they stay there tony two three hours at the most. And that Governor Boston, who's a Republican or Rhino, he had he had the National Guard out
or what and they were gone within a couple hours. Now why could he do that? And yet the governor of Texas, I mean that they had to put up with a small group of migrants for a couple of hours. These people, these people on the Texas Board, if you saw some of the videos, just wrote a story for American Free Press. I was shocked at the pollution and trash that is accumulated there and the fact Grenna Thundberg.
Wherever you are, if you're listening to the show, maybe some of your environmental activists should be concerned about with the damage to the ecosystems down there. They're making it so that animals can't nest. They're polluting the water and the
ground. You should see some of those videos he took it. It's on dirty diapers, clothes, everywhere it's and it's it's like three and four layers thick all around, like the busiest spots, spots where they cross over, and we're doing nothing about it. And Abbott, it's unconstable that his stunt is to say, well, I'm going to keep shipping them to other areas of the country like and okay, it was entertaining once, but why don't
you ship them back to Mexico? And again, why don't Why can't you have the best Why can't you do the same thing the governor of Boston did you have to be live in Martha's Vineyard to be able to get the National Guard out? So those people want to conservatives say it isn't an authority. Why did the governor of Massachusetts have that? And but that's that's what the Republicans. They want to have a consistent no action policy. That's been basically
their their plan forever. They don't do anything. They just CounterPunch very ineffectively. But at some point you have to. If you listen to my show today Atony Telly, I'm having more and more of these people that are on, you know, talking about what Chop Protective Services and local government has done taken their kids. It's horrible what they're doing. Where are the Christian ministers, where the pastors the big churches? Why aren't they protesting this? And
I said, the transgender activist. They get way more support from their fraction of a populace. They'll have tons of activists out there willing to fight to the death for their right to use whatever pronouns they want. Where are the Christian pastures, or for the right for people to not have their kids stolen from the government because their homeschooling, you're not getting vaccinated, or because some stupid neighbor or a relative or a doctor in this case, you know,
it says one of your kids looks a little too skinny. It's happening all the time. And they tried. If you're listening, Tony, they got two of the best, I would say in Congress in Kentucky, Rand Paul and Thomas Matthew. I think he's probably the best congressmen out there. They tried to get them involved and they didn't do anything. So there's you know, as long as you don't do anything, that's why we're in this situation.
We're in the other side does things. They are activists, and our side, if you want to call it our side, because I've been driven over into the right, they're just completely ineffective and they don't do anything, and they just they just sit there and you know, tweet and and keep saying we'll vote harder next time. And that's you know, that's obviously that working. Don do you think, I mean, I agree with I never
see I see tons of left everywhere. I mean anytime they have they filled that protest out and we only get the groups of like a Patriot Front or um, you know, some other neo Nazi group that's probably infiltrated eye hell. But do you think maybe it's also has to do with the perception media obviously is going to promote these the causes that they deemed worthy. So if there was a ant I'm just anti abortion protest, that's not going to get as much coverage as a put even if there was a lot of people,
they're going to focus on the other side. Do you think that could be also, Yeah, they would, but if you get enough people. And again obviously this was the other side, but it was a much more conservative country back in the early nineteen sixties, and the civil rights movement was driven
agally through the black churches. Reverend Martin Luther King and Reverend Ralph Abernathy, the leaders are well, Jesse Jackson's not really a reverend they calls himself that, but most of them were so. And you had black churches leading the marches, leading to sit in so all that. Where are they? I mean as far as abortion, I mean, I remember back when Catholics priests used to march in pro life marches. I don't think any of them do
anymore. But where are they stopping the transgender nonsense? There there? Or critical race theory, anything that the ridiculous schoolbooks that they're making little kids read about, you know, graphic sex acts between grown men and little boys.
Where are they they They're not anywhere, and they're they're just they don't do anything instead you And this is where Joel Ostein and people like that, if they have anounced of sincerity and I'm which I don't think they do, but they could prove it by using some of their millions to organize some efforts. And certainly you think they couldn't draw a crowd to one of these protests. Let's have an anti trans let's have a back to sanity, you know,
there are only two genders march or something like that. There's millions of Christians and if you had effective leaders, but these these leaders are pathetic. Most of them are into for the money. If they really care about these issues, they don't do it, and they're letting really, what are a very small percentage of freaks that are mentally troubled. They're letting them out number them and overpower them at these I mean, you see some of these things where
you have all these crazy transgenders mobbing a couple poor pro life people. That's pathetic. That shouldn't happen, but it could only happen because the churches have failed. The alleged religious leaders are doing nothing but asking for money presentably. Absolutely, you know, the prosperity gospel. By the way, I'm a reverend, true i am. I am an ordained minister. Yes, maybe maybe maybe we can start the America plugged revolution, Don, maybe we'll start
Yeah, the church, right, good comes out of the church. That's sun sue that you know, the battle is won and the temples long before it's fought. Right, he decided that, and that's this is part of the massive I don't even know the depth of it. But if you read history and you look into the work that the magnificent work that Don's done on hidden history, we have I mean layers of mind control. We can't fathom. You know, this is the United States is being targeted for destruction.
This is a controlled demolition. It's benefiting a very select few, and they've targeted the heart of our culture, the heart of who we are. Um. You know, it's the historian Will Durant says, when the faith dies, the culture dies, the people die. That's where you start. You attack the faith, you attack the family, you hit the heart. That's
what cultural Marxism is. That's the people that were kicked out of Hitler's Germany in the thirties that set up the intellectuals you know, that were that found refuge in the United States. That's the Frankfort School from Frankfort, Germany, and um, you know, they they figured out these were hardcore Marxists and revolutionaries, and they said, look, we took over Russia. You know, like just like mause Tongue said that the power comes out of the barrel
of a gun. They took over mother Russia. But they figured out they they held it, but they didn't really have their communist utopian paradise yet because the people didn't really believe it. They were just afraid. So they said we got to start from the bottom up. We got to start in the education system. And that's where that comes from. Like that that seed that was planted and it's blooming. Now you can see mean and we and it's like living in a William Butler Yates poem, you know, like where the
best black all conviction, and the worst are full of passion intensity. That's Don's right, Like the worst are just full of rage and bigger and their planning and their militant and RP were like, oh well, we got to work across the old. They're trying to divide us, guys, they're trying to divide us. Yes, yes, they're trying to divide us. And they're so they're so scared of being called or homophobic or transphobic. Now they're so scared. Why do you care? That's why I get people when they
defend Trumble. You know they if they had done that, they would have been said. What you acknowledge that they attacked him the entire time he was an office. They were impeaching him every other week, they were constantly launching and he didn't do anything. So what more could they have done if he had done something? So that that argument doesn't hold water. At some point
you have to you can't be scared. You know. One of the Robert F. Kennedy Junior and his UH, he wrote the forward to UH, Judy mikovits his book and he quotes his father in there when he says, or Robert F. Kennedy Senior said, the greatest what takes the most courage
is moral courage. It's it's even it's even rarer than physical courage. And we have very little moral courage in this country at this point because you can't you can't say whatever kind of courage the left habit isn't moral because it's immoral, So they have immoral courage, I guess. But the right has to have moral courage there. If this is a spiritual battle, you have to feel that on your side that you're fighting for good and I don't see it
anywhere. And when you're looking to people like Trump, especially who's you know, has not led a holy life, is the only thing. If he said he was, you know, struck on the road to Damascus, and now he's he's you know, this is a guy who's traded in supermodels every twenty years. He's had tons of affairs he's he's not any He's worse than Russia. Limbo or Russall. Limbo is there hero who's married three times,
had no biological children. This is the hero of the right. These guys, you know, you have to kind of live what you're saying at some point, and we just don't have anybody doing that that. I'm reading this book bathering the Great Washington Post Empire, and it's fascinating because Catherine, she's in college and she I don't know if it's her or who's the guy that wrote the Jungle what was his name? No, it's Upton, Sinclair Upton
or her. Upton has a quote that like was put in the press like how how it was Hollywood will never be left wing because there it was basically just saying like it's so controlled by these fascist, evil fascist keeping things concerned, or that Hollywood will never be left wing because they're terrified to print it. And I just made me think of, now, just the power shift that that must have had. I don't know when this happened, you know, you guys know history better than I do, but I just found that
so fascinating. I think like the quote basically that Upton had was, um, he made a movie or a book, a book about a fascist dictator who was a Republican, and they blocked it. They tried to censor the book, and his quote was something like, well, if you guys Republicans are sensitive by this, maybe that's something to think of. So one that just amadenly made me think of today like the same type of the same type
of rhetoric. But it just amazes me that at one point, I mean, we have no power the right, whether that's we or not we. Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, there's no name me one powerful rightist organization that can actually get anything done. Not one. And it's a fake thing. I mean there's a lot of donations. They their donation. I mean, that's what did I call the GOP grifters on patrol, always looking for something like money for it and they don't like to win. They like to
be fundraising for eternity. You're talking about Katherine Graham, aren't you. Yes, Yeah, you know she dated Warren Buffett. You got to that part yet where they have I have you're ruining. I'm only halfway done. If you're gonna blow it for me, what a wonderful romance. Well, here's something well and you get off topic. But you know, I was thinking of Kathy and Graham, and I thought of Warren Buffett, and I think of Warren Buffett and his dad was actually a real deal. Like his dad
was like remember that John Bird Society was a congressman. There was absolutely like a right wing guy in Nebraska. I don't know what happened to his son, but it's like, you know, like the not even close, you know, but um, you're right about like that. There was there was a period in America where and it's funny, like you like the right is
taking over where you know, like Reagan. You know, like it's it's it's so silly, you know, like you look back at the Reagan years and it was just like you know, well, it's like is the problem, yeah, but you're growing it. I mean I was thinking about today, like the first time we hit a trillion dollars in debt was under Reagan. And it just kept going. I remember He's like I get rid of the Department of Education, and you get rid of it by growing it,
I guess because he just keeps growing it. Nothing was cut under Reagan. There's Reagan. Remember Reagan. It was art Laugher the africurve. You know, we spike it by cutting the top marginal tax rates and deregulating, but we also increase spending, which is you know, that's the Keynesian model. So it is funny when I think of people like the when you think of like the boogeyman that the left has that the right's going to take over, I'm like, where where is the right? What do you name me?
One governmental organization? Where the top I say the top fifty people. I better the top fifty people is they're a conservative like rock rib person. Not a chance, there's nobody. All aspects of government from the top down of every agency is covered by a globalist leftist done the Handmaid's Tale. I don't know how many women I know that Handmaid's Tale could happen. I said, what good God, they've killed the maternal instinct in American American women, especially
what kind of fantasy do you have? And men are so subservient. That's why one of the shows I watched my son turned me onto it is Jason Whitlock's Less podcast. He's a black guy and he's the most he's the best one out there about race relations and what he calls the matriarchy too. He's no white person could do what he says what he says. He calls out the matriarchy all the time about how weak men are and how they've let women
take over the culture. And he's always calling out black athletes and black entitlement everything. He's an amazing guy. He used to be in Tucker Carlson a lot that his HID podcast is really, uh, it's it's it's the best thing out there, I think next to our shows, of course. And the last thing I wanted to was that that that growing, you know, the Prussian education system, and so I'm reading, I'm listening to a book.
I forget what it's about Prussia though, like the history of Prussia, and it was that and I've always heard that our education and our military is based off the Prussian system, and I never really knew what that men. So I was fascinating learning that they wanted to get people more um subservient to
the state, loyal to the state. And they came out and I forget when it was, I guess like seventeen hundreds, right they instituted this knew idea, maybe even before that in Prussia, this is how we're going to get the people to fall in love with us. We're going to teach them from day one, this is how you become a good member of society. This is how you do this. And it just helped me understand or comprehend
like what the American education system slowly he was doing all these years. Whether teachers knew that or not, you're just creating these perfect drones that that. Yeah. I always give the example like if you call out Zionism to people that maybe you don't even watch politics, maybe aren't even Christians, they will defend it by gut reaction, and it's like amazing. It's like what skin do you have in the game. You have no skin in the game.
But yeah, you're yelling at me or getting upset. It's just they've conditioned people so well to just mister Smith, you know from the matrix like they it just pops up into them and they're able to they start, you know, shooting at your glaw whatever. Yeah, do you think God, Yeah,
no, I certainly agree with what you're saying. But I think you know, they used to our education systems since I guess John Dewey pushed it on us over a hundred years ago was always concerned I think, with creating a good citizens of the state, you know, but at least before like they used to teach them. They stopped teaching civics before I got to high school sits in a long time, and they used to teach civics and so
people. I don't know how much that was absorbed, but presumably at least some of the people got some lesson in civics and how you maybe try to behave appropriately in society, try to you know, to understand how maybe how to engage with others. I don't know what they exactly taught, but I think it's something that certainly needs to be taught now. But it's so lacking. They are still creating citizens of the state, but it's a monster state
now. So these kinds of citizens are different. They're creating freaks, and they're destroying little kids, you know, with the I mean, this is all Frankenstein's stuff. I mean, let's little girls, let's go cut your breasts off and we'll pose topless with the Frankenstein's scars next to your beaming mother and your evil you know doctor that participated and did this to you little boys.
You know, you cut your thing off, and you know, and there's so many people that we're not seeing it yet, but we're starting to see a little bit of another fifteen twenty years. You're gonna have so many people that are just completely probably I've already killed themselves or on the verge of that, because they went through this and they have regrets. You already have so many people that come back and want to retransition or whatever. And it's
it's just it's it's terrible. And again, where are the churches. Where's the other side? Where's my church? The Catholic church? They probably agree with it, I don't know. They used to be pro life. And where where the fundamentalists that are there. They're always there to lecture about you know, you're gonna go to hail and all. They love to say that stuff. But why aren't they saying about this. They're quiet. I don't know if they're talking about it from the pulpit or not. I don't think
they are. But they need to be going out in the streets. And again, that's what we know. I know there are powers behind the civil rights movement, but that's what made the civil rights movement effective. Getting charismatic reverence out in front of the flock and they will start following. That's what
we need here. We need there's charismatic preachers out there. Get some religious leaders out there and stop trying to collect money on television and go out lead your flock and try to fight back against this pure Satanism that it's taken over the culture. And I think you, I mean me. You know, the world America is not as Christian anymore. So maybe you could say you
have these real charismatic podcasters and stuff. But the issue then I also see, especially with our community whatever you want to call it, is anybody that maybe is charismatic and has a large following in if they're successful, they're a fact that it's they're immediately they're they're working with the sea, they were at
the you know, and Nick twentys like comes to mind. All these people that whether I don't know if they are or not, but you can't if you're too successful, you're you're you're you're a fed you know, and you already lost now twenty percent of the conspiracy movement or whatever because you're too successful to have grown organically or what have you. Yeah, Well, the conspiracy. Alternative media feeds on itself. It eats its own and it's unfortunate.
I think a lot of that's like by design so it can't go anywhere. Um, but it really if you look at a like a like a lot of the comment sections and places when you go live and then like oh this is you're a shill and then you did you didn't. You don't believe what I believe, so you must be a plant. And it's like, you know what that leads to ladies and gents nealism, like neialism, nothing matters, nothing's real. I mean, why are you even showing up? It's
funny because the neilist always wrote papers and stuff. I'm like, well, if you don't believe in anything, we why do you care if anybody believes it? You know, like what it's so there's always some kind of like
deeper thing. And you know there's a lot of people I don't agree with their I think there's a lot of great researchers in alternative because we have to do this job that the mainstream won't do because they can't because that's not their Their job is to read the teleprompter and have a hairdo or whatever and be a personality. It's not to gun cover anything. And you know we're talking about that. There was a pole to day on Summit dot News like two
thirds of Americans think that the media is the enemy of the people. And I'm like, welcome to the party. Foul. I mean, that's a long time. I mean, what's wrong with the other third? You know, um, yeah, they're obviously the enemy of the people. And I don't know. I just think there's there's something, there's a sort of neihilism that goes with it. I know exactly what you're talking about. Like if you get too big, oh, then you're a shill, and then you're
you're a part of the you're an op, you're a fed. We have to be really careful with that because people ought to be allowed. Tom I probably won't ever be like big or anything, because I mean, the way to get big right now is to find out what your audience wants. Your audience isn't You don't build your audience necessarily anymore. You go find what they want and you say it. Like I've been in broadcasting since I've been in
radio for since twenty thirteen. I've been on major stations and I know exactly what to say. I don't say it because I don't believe it. But I could. I have the skill set. I could have a million followers in a year. And that's where you hit Trump real hard. You just you, you go after and you kind of put a camera on all the crazy idiocy. You know, you talk about bud light cans for six weeks
in a row. You know, like that's what you would do. And it's boring and it's stupid and it's intellectually slow and I can't do it and I won't never have a big audience because of that. You're totally right, dude, And it's such a simple yea. If you're want to be on the right, if you're a minority, all right, you're almost there. You just gotta be able to be a little bit articulate and boom, at
least Daily Wire is going to hire you or promote you. And yeah, but so I wanted to bring up we brought up earlier Elon Musk in the new Ley. But I saw the FDA approved, is it? It's a I didn't I didn't look. I just saw I was approved in human use.
So I don't know if that's just for clinical trials. But I don't know if either of you know anymore you know about where that's where that stands, what you go don do you know about Elon and his well just what I've heard, but I mean, I you know, and again I was I was accused of being naive because I said, Okay, I support what
are you saying about free speech? When he was talking about that, And but you know, he's whatever little hope I had for him left when he hired the new CEO of Twitter. It was a w e F Chair Chair World Economic for him. And I'm still waiting. I don't know if you've heard Tony. I still have not heard any comment from Tucker Carlson because he
I don't think it was an accident. He literally hired her the day after Tucker Carlson and signed with Twitter, and you know he you know, I can't believe if Tucker Carlson has any sincerity in him that he's happy about that, because that's going to be his new boss. He's criticized the World Economic for and so and so his musk very and if you looked on Twitter,
I tweeted out the musk course. Shockingly enough, He didn't answer me, but he probably it was probably ninety nine point nine percent thousands and thousands of comments saying what a chilly was and he was a phony. He lost all credibility. How could you how could you possibly name her? She goes against everything you're talking about. This is what you were supposed to reform. Not one positive comment anywhere, and I think he maybe engaged one or two of
them, but that was it, and he had no one. Let's wait and see you're no, No, that's stupid. It's but it was. It was every it was every bit as dumb and as inexplicable as when Trump named Bolton or something of it. So it's just it made no sense. So I'm whatever, what I had a toe on the Elon mass bond bandwagon. It's it's off now, so he's and I'm still shadow band there now, so he certainly hasn't stopped shadow bands. Well, Tony, do you
have any thoughts on like that that? Because I right, it got approved. I think just for clinic I'm assuming clinical trials because it's not like tons of people are walking around with neur link in their brain yet. Well, the FDA is the John Kerry of the pharmaceutical industry there for before they were against it. Uh you know they remember John carry back and over. I voted for it before I voted it against it. I think that the FDA just I saw a mean to the day. It was like fun. Fact
every drug recalled by the FDA was once approved by the FDA. That's pretty fun. So what's wrong with your mind that you need to implant something from Elon Musk into it? Are you really going to improve anything? Even if you could? Do you want that? And now we live in an age of AI and all this. I mean, I'm almost to the point where I'm like a good luck, you know, like I just you just go away, Like I don't, like, do we want to engage anymore with
with society, with the people that are bracing this stuff. I think there's a big chunk of just to be serious, I think there's a big chunk of people that don't want anything to do with this, and they're not and it's gonna fail and it's gonna look like crap. AI, by the way, is very satanic and it's dangerous, but it's not gonna take over everything.
Um because eventually you have to have humans do something like the AI chat bot that was like, hey, I'm dangerous and you should be with me and not your wife like of a box, like you know, you're done. So it's it's you know, there's a there's a certain level of you know, we give power to these things. And I know that's just the headline on the headline. I'm looking at the headline and Drudge right now it's Musk is set to chip humans. We've been We've known this for a while.
And he's the same guy he warned Joe Rogan. I warned them against the AI, and they didn't listen to me. So I made the AI congratulate. And then then the next headline they have is Trump is unstoppable. I mean, like, come on, you know, like, who is it AI running the Drudge Report? Oh that's funny, dude. And then I also, I didn't get to why, but I saw you were on David Night's show talking about gold back crypto, which sounds I mean, so I would love to hear you know, right off the bat, that sounds
awesome. So I would love to hear more about that well real quick. And I'm sure Don has thoughts on this too, But Okay, so the State of Texas is I mean, through committee, they want to pass a bill where the state takes their gold and silver reserves, their bullion reserves, and they back it. They backed that, They back a digitized cryptocurrency run by the State of Texas. That's that's redeemable in gold and silver specie. Sounds good on paper and it until you realize that it's run by the state.
I don't need a state run currents. See period we have whether you're in Boston or Bangladesh, the price of gold and silver are the same same around the world. For bitcoin, it's always been that way. We don't need governments, don't need to be in the business of currency. It's a backdoor for tyranny, especially when you're talking about digitized currency. I opposed this, and I remember I just offered, like reflexively, I'm like, I
don't like this. And the next day I saw a podcast from Joseph P. Farrell, who wrote Babylon's Banksters, and he was like, this is a really bad thing because because what it is, it's a backdoor to say, now here's one you can trust. Here's run by the State of Texas. Where they got they got a red state because red means what communism. It's so funny they always like the red blue thing, you know, like I'm gonna get a red state and I'm like, you mean like communism,
Like, oh no, but you know we're red. And I'm like, I know they did that to you, and you embraced it. So I look at that. I'm very skeptical and I hope it works out. But I mean to think about that Democrat we talked about democ Don's so right about this in Americans to have no idea what's happened to this country? Like you have no idea how the demographics have changed so much. I mean, Reagan won a forty eight state landslide in nineteen eighty four, forty eight states,
just smash Walter Mondale. Could you do that today? Could any candidate get a forty eight state landslide? I mean winning California. The demographics have changed so in California you could never beat the Democrat. It doesn't matter what. It doesn't matter if you had the best looking woman who was articulate and just a it doesn't matter how good you were, how good, You're gonna lose because people are gonna push the button because that's what demographics do. And you
don't understand, demography is destiny. So Texas is going to change. It's going to be a blue state. I'm sorry, I didn't do it. Greg Abbott, Yeah, you know, Greg Abbott decided I'm just gonna watch this. I mean he Greg Abbott tweeted in twenty fifteen he was like the defensive line of the Cowboys was a luck like the border. I'm like, you're governor, yeah, Trupian very Trumpians like this is so ridiculous, you
know. I'm like, yeah, you did it. And Texas like wow, I'm so glad I got Greg Abbott and that's where that's and it's gonna turn blue. And I say blue even I'm captured by the full crumb of that siop, you know, like it's a blue state, but they're gonna turn the demographically they're going there. The Democrats know it. And it maybe
make two or three election cycles, but it's going there. And once see when I was a kid, Texas was a blue state, but it was blue dog like it was run by the Democrats, and Richards was governor right, and Richards a far cry from whatever the hell these people are like, I mean, I mean, you say what you will about that. That was not the same we were. We were. Lloyd Bens was my senator, like that, we are not the same. You know. He was the one that told h dan quail, right, thanks Donny dan quill.
He's like, you know, I was friends with Jack Kennedy. You know Jack Kennedy. So it's gonna go So why would you hand over a currency to what we know is eventually inevitably going to be run by a leftist? And I don't like it? So that's my short that's the short version. I didn't know that. Obviously, that makes much more sense. Like how so I didn't know it was run by the government or the state. That's
very interesting. Well, I think that Tony basically touched on this, but I think that putting the gold standard and then gold standard is still kind of a traditional conservative view. We need to proact the gold standard. So that may be a way for them to sneak the digital currency in. I mean they may maybe if they go to full digitalized currency, they'll somehow say we're we're linking it to gold. You're not gonna be able to get it unless
we approve what you know, your tweets or your social media posts. But and you know, conservatives being representing the stupid Party. That's what we call them, the stup evil Party, the stupid party. The stupid Party has never been more stupid. And you can bet people like that that I that I debate with it, that I just kind of talked to about Trump and stuff. Those people are all fall for it. If the right conservatives, you know, say oh, yeah, you know, this is a good
plan. Back by the gold standard, nothing to worry about. It's back by the gold standard, digitalized currencies, something to worry about, doesn't matter what, it's back by it. And I would suspect that's probably why this talk is going on. Aby. They may be trying to bring on bring on board all these conservatives and the usual suspects that would that will go ahead with the plan and do what they always do, lose. And you know, I say, oh, is ri, It's great, and then they'll
twiddle their thumbs and wonder what happened. Yeah, I agree, Jack, you're my ex mused brother. Hm, I hit that damn button again. That played my old thing there? And did you also see um that I think it's called like fed now or something like that, that transfer service. Have you guys read all about well just from what I like saw so obviously like PayPal them all these different apps, but bank charges like three percent or four percent, and I think, I don't know if it's called fed now,
is it okay? Yeah? And what that charges like point zero two percent? And so this would put PayPal, Venmo cash app a way out of business because why would you use this the them when you can get this service and they But I didn't know if I'm tony or done, if you had done any more like is pe, Like if I was the Venmo Cash App CEO, I would be glad that I just left this my mortal coil because my company is gonna go under, you know, So I don't know
if you knew any more about it. That's a it's a piggyback system for the central bank digital currency. It's bad. I mean, they're they're implementing one thing right top down. That's why you're going to start seeing these regional banks start having problems with liquidity, and they're gonna have stress tests and they're gonna have all these problems, and they're gonna start these large banks are gonna start buying them up. And that's the banking crisis, all these crisis that
are used to consolidate. So FED now is like that. It's the it's the bones, the structure for the central bank digital currency. They're running it now. They used the Bank of America, I believe in um JP Morgan to piggyback and to run it. It's a payment system that can go across banking. But you know again they're gonna like, well, we need only the larger banks can handle it. You've got about six major large banks that run that's the too big to fail, too big to jail, and you
get about six thousand regional bank. Okay, So they want to use FED now and then again a lot of the this is what happens. That freedom can only exist in a decentralized system. Freedom cannot exist from a top down thing. It just is debt, debt on arrival. So be on the lookout for that. I agree with you. I mean, I like cash app, UM, I use cash app all the time. I love bitcoin. You know, I'm a golden silver guy. I have a golden silver business is what I do. UM, And I like decentral is that I
had. You know, I love it when people can get together and we can just you know, like I had a guy come in to day it's I needed some bitcoin. I didn't know he was gonna buy something with I had had a nineteen o eight twenty dollars gold pieces worth about twenty two hundred bucks. I sold him to him first bitcoin, just to straight trade over the counting boom? What bank was involved? There? Nothing, you know, because we're free on the earth to do so that's we should be doing
that, you know. So No, I don't support any of this stuff. I mean the creature from Jekyl Island read it well doing and that. But that was my one question about this is why would Visa? Why would all these billion dollar companies allow that? Because they're gonna lose billions? Right? I mean everybody that uses these services? Is it because they're so InterLAN that doesn't matter? Is that? Why? Like? Why why would they let this go through? Does that make sense? When I'm when I'm asking
me and Don wrote The Survival of the Richest? Ye? What I mean? Why why would why would why would bud Lake try to destroy their business? Why was was Disney doing it? They're bigger agendas, you know. And again I I can't stress enough that these it's it's not always a bad profits. And I don't know. I think there's a black hole where the intelligence budgets are. I suspect that a lot of these companies get funds we
don't even know about. They get stuff under the table because it doesn't mean because they really are greedy, they do want profits, so it goes against their instincts to do these these kinds of things. But the fact that they do it so willingly and they double down on it, they don't care. They don't care. It doesn't matter you lost ninety percent, I don't care.
They'll just double down. That's not that's not supposed to be the capitalist mine, right, So I think they're probably getting some kind of payoffs under the table through you know, again we don't we don't know where a lot of the money in our in our budget goes, including the still top secret intelligence agency budgets, and nobody seems to want to make them public. I don't know why, but I mean, and that's probably where they pay the
hit squad too, the people that kills whistleblowers. You know, that's where probably where the body counts bad. They probably have a hit squad that's there somewhere, but yeah, you know, so it's it doesn't None of this really surprises me because I wouldn't expect them to balk in it, because again, corporate America is I think Tony kind of alluded to earlier. There aren't any conservatives and the corporate world used to be a vast end of conservatism.
They're they're more woke than the government now, so they're on board with with whatever. If this is the new thing that we're pushing it, Oh yeah, cool, we'll go for it. And again I think they're probably paid off onto the table, But yeah, I don't. I don't think you'll see any fight there. And they'll sell it to the people, and people will people it's like to go to self checkout counters or anything else if they think there's a little convenience or in this case, that they're saving a little
money, you know why paying three percent instead of zero two percent? They don't necessarily who care who they're paying it to. So I think it will be a smashing success if you know, if they decide to do it. Oh, I think you're yeah, that's a great, great answer. And then my last, my last time. I don't know if you guys, so I keep seeing obviously more and more craziness keeps happening, false flags, all these you know, trauma everywhere. And I saw though, what like
sixty thousand tons of ammonium nitrate when missing in California. I mean, you know, I it's not I don't put it past the government to losing trillions or tons of anything. You know, they have those that ability, they're they're so in f But I didn't know if you guys thought that this was maybe to play to a larger or it's in play for something significant with this missing ammonium nitrate. So Tony, I don't know if you had any any thoughts on or maybe you have it, maybe it's in your gold shop.
No, that would make me a fit. That would be that would be confirmation that I'm Michel and I'm a fed um. You know, there's a reason why the government has a term for a lost nuclear weapon. It's called a broken arrow, because they've lost them, right, there's a reason that you have to have a term for it. I mean, it's literally a term. It's called a broken arrow. So I didn't know that yes, lost nukes. Um, so yeah, I saw that story. It's it's
concerning. It's almost like they you know, they advertise it. Oh like here's a blurt, you know, enough to do some real damage and God forbid you know. Um and Don's done great work. If you read, go folks, go get Hidden History. If you don't know Gon's work, go get it, go get the book. He's got new stuff coming out. So he's got a new book out. We need to talk about that.
Don't make sure you plug that down. Oh I will definitely will you know I think that, Uh, but we definitely got you look at Oklahoma City, you know that's that's where you get to the people became familiar with. Oh, fertilizer will blow up? Yeah, you know, sure will. Um and they lost what sixty thousand pounds of it? Yeah something like that thirty Yeah, sixty thousand pounds so um enough to do some enough to you know, you're gonna need a few rider trucks and you'll you'll you'll need
uh. The what they have the worst black white supremacists that I've ever seen lately. Like the guy is the White House. He's like he's got a Nazi flag look at this white supremacist. Just they his white supremacy. It's like the Proud Boys. I'm like, I had the one of the Proud Boys on my show back, you know long, but they don't talk to many of them anymore. But I was like, you guys are the worst
white supremacist. I haven't talked to a white guy yet. You know, everything's supposed to be white supremacists, but you never actually meet a white one. Yeah. Well, when when they talk about something like that, just I don't know much about the story other than it just strikes me again as more fear porn, because if they see the general public can kind of put two and two together and say, oh, something bad could happen there, you know, they could make bombs with it or whatever. And can you
lose? And how did they even explain? How how did it get lost? I mean who lost it? Where did it go? I mean these are the questions that nobody asked. It's just well, you know they've they'll just parrot it and they'll leave it out there hanging like the other fear porn, just like you came out of China the other day that there's new pandemic on the way that may kill as many of sixty five millions. Like so, this is just barely gonna be an endless series of pandemics, even though
we want one hundred years without one. And now it's just going to be nonsense. So it's it's they. They've the conspirators, the people that run things, have seen that nothing works like fear, and they're just stepping up the fear all the time. You know, they're kind we need to redo FDRs. Expression is because today's Americans have can do nothing else but fear, fear of fear itself all the time. That's what they're doing. They're in
fear constantly, and that's throwing it out there. So I would suspect that's what that story is. That's I think that's that's totally bad. Yeah, so I think it's a perfect sague. Since you brought up the child, the new thing that's going to kill everybody, don you You just released a book, so tell plug it, tell everybody about it. You were nice enough to send me a copy, so yeah, yeah, well it's a well, I don't have any hard copies. I was sending you guys pds,
but I don't even have one myself. Yet, but it's um It's called Masking the Truth How COVID nineteen destroyed civil liberties and shut down the world. It's gott a forward by doctor Sherry Tenpenny. Uh. It's it's the first book. And there have been other good books, like you know, Naomi Wolf's Bodies of Others and Peter McCullough's book, and Alex Barrens and Bobby Kennedy Junior's book about Faucci. There's been other books, but this is the
first one that tell us the whole story from beginning to end. And I go way down the rabbit hole. I'll hold back. I talk about the empty hospitals. I talk about the freezer trucks that were you know, videotaped is all being off when there's buzzy containing much advice. I talk about the dancing nurses in their choreography. You can't forget those things. They're incredible lies.
I have all the statistics in there about how they lie from the very beginning, going back to Italy and how the Italian newspaper quietly reported, are these thousands of deaths that were happening that you've been filling the people with theory will actually of them were from other causes, so and those kind of things are and so I think my book is the first one that's going to have
that, and I don't go into the Republican area. The conservative response has been to talk about the China, China, and the leak from the Wuhan lab, and certainly some Frankenstein type things going on in the Wuhan lab, but releasing a bioweapon was in one of them. The bioweapon is the vaccine, and people needed there. It's like a magician. They're distracting them with
COVID whatever it is. As I point out in there, they've never proven COVID nineteen exist, and the government tells you that they can't isolate it. So until they prove it exist, I'm going to assume it's the regular coronavirus, and it's the flu, and it's all these other causes. They falsely attributed death to COVID, and then when they brought the vaccine out, then they go into the other cover up mode and start covering up the amount of
deaths and injuries caused by the vaccine. So I think people, especially on the right, they're the ones that are skeptical or finally got fed up with the lockdown and everything. But again they're distracting you. They're looking in the wrong direction. It's not China's fault. Everybody was on board this, Bill Gates isn't from China. You know, Trump wasn't from China, Biden's not from China, Fallacies not from China. The whl all that, that's who
the culprits are. And people will read how this started back in two thousand and one with the Dark Winter exercises. I would give too much away of it, but this was something they planned for. They talked about it, and you can see how right down to what they were practicing over and over
again. And the last one was a gender two oh one, right before the pandemic hit in October of twenty nineteen, which Bill Gates, who w ef all these usual suspects were involved, and they were planning on what would happen if a virus and and almost all the exercise of the virus came out of China, and uh, and how would we develop a vaccine to compound it to combat it. So amazing that they knew this back in two thousand and one, when you know the santis Fluids nineteen eighteen. So get the
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that would be great. And again it's just it's you. You'll you'll get all the information sit in one book, everything you've probably forgotten. I'll post the link in the show notes once once are done, so I'll post that for everybody so we can we can So where where I think you kind of already said, don but where can people find you all those all those good
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