From Coding Machines to Leading Humans ft. Leonid Igolnik | Ep. 21
Mar 02, 2026•37 min
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Episode description
Viktor Gamov talks to Leonid Igolnik (Former CTO at Clari) about his career in B2B SaaS engineering leadership. Leonid’s first job: teaching kids Pascal. His challenge: changing buyer behavior and scale complex systems.
Books mentioned:
► Influence without Authority: https://www.amazon.com/Influence-Without-Authority-Allan-Cohen/dp/0471463302
► Drive: https://www.danpink.com/books/drive/
► Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking: https://www.amazon.com/Blink-Power-Thinking-Without/dp/0316172324
SEASON 2
Hosted by Tim Berglund, Adi Polak and Viktor Gamov
Produced and Edited by Noelle Gallagher, Peter Furia and Nurie Mohamed
Music by Coastal Kites
Artwork by Phil Vo
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