Jodie Foster

Foster and I feel Being Conan's friends. I feel ambivalent. A major blow to the solar flexis. You should be flattered, right? Because it's not just yes or you know. I have questions. Let's be very clear. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Uh Here with my crew, my chums. Uh Sonom of Sessian. Yeah, hi Conan. Conan O'Brien, who is doodling. That's why I've taken a mustache wondering where its master is. But it says where's Gil? Yeah, that's your dad. That's my dad.

So it's my dad's mustache. Don't say it's just a random masta. Whatever, right? My dad's mustache. That's just a name that happened to come off my pen. Here we go. What's that? Yeah. Hey there. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. I'm coming in after I've been away for quite a while now. I have been on an epic uh series of journeys. uh across uh the world.

Um I'm back now. It's so nice to be back and see the friendly faces of Sonom of Sessia and Matt Gorley. How you guys doing? It's been a while. It's been like over a month. Yeah, yeah. It's been five weeks since I uh since we we taped a podcast. And um I missed you guys. I really did. And everywhere I went, people were talking to me about the pod.

Again, in different cities, I ran into people who were listening to it uh as I ran into them. That's cool. Or had just finished and it's very sur I mean, it's surreal for me, but I think it is upsetting to them. Oh, yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot to be walking through Central Park and you're listening to this podcast and then this uh giant George Kennedy head comes at you gets in your face and says, You want a selfie?

I asked a statue that was on horseback w if it wanted a selfie. It's just funny'cause there'll be if Ten people in a row want a selfie. You get into a certain rhythm and then this happened in London'cause I had some stuff I had to do there and

Ten people in a row were like, Can I have a selfie? Could I have a selfie? Can I have a selfie? And then this one woman said, Oh hey, I know you and I said, I said, Do you want a selfie? And she said, No. Nine lives. There's nothing I'd want less. I'd rather die. I'd rather be dead. But anyway, it's very nice to be back. Mm-hmm. Uh and uh in the New York groove, even though we're in Los Angeles. Yeah. So Do you have fun? You good?

Did you get sick? No, I did not get sick. Who do you get? Did you with yourself? Did you get sick? Like the choices you made? End up where you thought? Be? No. Okay. I'm quite uh content and just

Happy to be here. Yeah. Yesterday, uh, because I'm doing the Oscars in March, uh, we shot a bunch of promos for the Oscars. And there's a bunch where you do them for different countries. So I I did one uh Telemundo, I I did it in Spanish. You do some to different countries. And then there was one country, I can't remember what country it is. Norway or where it was, but the name of the station was so tune in to the Oscars on March fifteenth.

Uh, and watch it live on and then you give the name of the station. And if it's, you know, if it's uh on Telemundo or you you give the different ones. But there was uh I think it was some country, I cannot remember it, but I said, uh turn in to Besto uh uh beat a and then it said on the copy V uh you know dial.

So I said Beastok V dial and there's a dialect coach off camera and he went no no it's beast and he said the V is just a v just a quick v dial and I said v and he went no. V So I tried it and I said, Be stock v dial and he said no. It's V and I said V and he said no. It's v and he was getting irritated and he said, You don't say the v, you just go v. You think it. You like think it and I said v and he went No, it's vo.

And so it was back and forth, me going and him going And there's like uh six hundred people around standing around tech people and I'm going And he goes And then he was like, No, if I can hear it it's wrong basically And so I went, so just be stuck Dial and he said, I heard nothing. That's not it.

And I said, You told me not to say anything and it turned into a full on It's a way of life, it's a way of life, man. You must live the So uh I should try and remember what it was'cause maybe it makes the story better. You don't ever see that'cause that'll just air in whatever country you're this is. Yeah. I think so. And they may not see it there because the country will be so enraged that I did the incorrectly that they'll have a revolution.

But if you did it correctly, they wouldn't see it either, according to this guy's It was amazing. It was just an incredible. Yes, Eduardo, what do you got? You leaned in like you had something. Oh, I wish I was just wishful thinking. Oh, I've never seen you laugh at anything I said before. It took me by surprise. Your your failure made me laugh.

That's my point. Where's that five dollars we pass around for the spider tip? There you go. Hey spider, spider. Uh wow. Is that what it's called? The spider tip? That's what we'll call it. Yeah. Love it. Good fellas. We're always thinking of you.

Uh yeah. So anyway, I've been very busy but having a really good time. Good. What did you binge? Oh, I binged Andor. That's right. Yeah. Andor I Andor's perfect. And you went right into Rogue One. Perfect. And I went right into Rogue One and I had a moment. I remember like after I've watched Rogue One.'Cause you know you could go right into Star Wars. I know. Star Wars two Or as the kids call it now, store

Star Wars nine beginning. I know he's a good one. This is sacred text. So let's not check out the next one. I agree. I I don't call it a new hope either. I call it Star Wars two. Yeah. Can you believe that's episode four? Yeah, but that was all later. That was came later. Oh, okay. Well I I I I liked it. I didn't I'm not gonna like devote my life to it. I mean like I'm not asking you to. I'm just saying stay open to it. I'm gonna tell you also I didn't understand a lot of stuff that was going

On. I mean, I I just kind of, you know, when you nod along when you think you understand? I didn't understand. There was just so many like other random Characters it was like I don't know what to do. Once they started renaming everything, like I knew it's the first Star Wars and it's then it's the Empire Strikes Back. You know, and then the third one n the they all have different names now. The third one is now called Star V Wars.

I thought it was Norway. I don't know. I can't even remember. I don't remember which I did nine thousand promos in different Hello, Estonia. If you're gonna watch the Oscars, make sure to tune in on March 15th on Gram Guslack Rosjat! This is undoing all of that. All right. Uh I'm proud of both of you. What? What did we do? Because I binged andor but I also binge.

I power washed some of the skin off my thumb. No way. Why'd you do that? I didn't mean to. I just was using a power washer and it hit my You know what? I think you committed a murder and you were trying to get your skin He's getting away! So slow! That was so slow. You know what I loved about that? You gotta check the video. Matt dashes out of his chair right and then very slowly and methodically opens the door. Oh my god.

The closing that took for a You know what? It would be like if Booth shot Lincoln in Ford's Theater and then rather than leap off the balcony and escape. Booth shot Lincoln then was like pardon me, excuse me, pardon me. Just working his way slowly. Pardon me, pardon me, and then you're not gonna be able

All right, my guest today is an Academy Award winning actress who was starred in such movies as Taxi Driver and The Silence of the Lambs. Now you can see her in the new movie, A Private Life. I'm honored she's uh with us today.

I have a fantasy friendship with you which w A you're very tall and B I'm very small. So I have little image of us walking down the beach. together like hoining out dolphins and things. You know, and I've got a little sandwich in my backpack for you and stuff. And we have this we have like a little kind of a good little oh what was that?

Oh, it was a course of the father or it was a show I was on uh in the seventies and there was like a you know, a son and his father and they're walking down the beach. So I have that side, but then there's the reality part which is Yeah, I don't know. I don't I don't know that it would be good. It might look good.

It might look good. Yeah, but you think the reality might be uh something something darker. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Too much sand. Yeah. Too much sand. Um You know, it's so funny'cause I have a very clear memory of the first time I met you which is I was skiing and there's this

friend of mine who I ran into and he said, Why don't you ski with me? And he said, I'm skiing with my friend Jody. Didn't say anything else. And I went, All right, whateves. So I'm skiing and we're zipping along and We get down to where, and I I noticed that uh uh he said, Oh, my my friend Jody's down here by the lift. And I went, All right, let's go.

you know, check in on Jody, whoever that is. And I can be snarky to her. Um, and we get down there and I remember you like took off your goggles and said, Oh, hi, Jody. And I was like, Oh. Oh. That's my happy place. Skiing. That's my happy place. You like it because of the anonymity and also No, I like I like this the idea of a sport where if you stop being in the present moment, you might die. Like you might you might hit a tree or something. There's something really

Relaxing about that. Yes. Honestly. No, no. I kind of understand what you're saying. But that's why I play Russian roulette every night. Yeah. Keeps me in the moment. Hell of a record.

Amazing. Incredible record. Never misses a night. Yeah, sometimes I put three bullets in. Still. I'm fine. This got real dark real fast. Russian roulette while skiing, even better. Um You know, it's so funny because uh I've since gotten to know you much better and even though there's a lot of ambivalence on your end, uh and um it's interesting to me because

I don't think this is discussed as much with you because you've had such a an iconic career in film and it's had so many different levels. But I was a T V kid growing up in the seventies And my brother Neil made sure that we watched all the western. You know, Bonanzas and All in the F House on the Prairie, you know, gunsmokes. And you know, we also watched Courtship of Eddie's father. We watched all these shows and you were a fixture on these shows.

And it's fascinating'cause we haven't really had a ever had a chance to talk about it, but that is a completely different era. A world where you're on the set of bonanza. Yeah. And these are iconic shows from I as you know Matt, like from the fifties and sixties and seventies and You've heard of them too. You've heard of them too. They're they're iconic, but I don't know how good they were. I mean I always say I never said good. I was on every you know, every

kind of bad television show in the seventies. I have a brother, Neil, who watches all these shows. He's got an encyclopedic knowledge of them and if I s you know randomly called him and said, Oh, I saw Jodie Foster today, he'd say You know, she was excellent. in season thirteen of Bonanza. Yeah, yeah. Haas's Lament and he would say with guest star and then he had, you know, Bernie Coppel as the science. You know, all these great fix

And I would say, okay, and he and he'll often say to me, like, Did you mention to Jody? And I'd be like, No But here you are. I know and now I'm doing it. I mean, I thought I'd talk about some of her, you know, Oscar winning roles and stuff.

And my brother doesn't care about film. He just is only like so that but that is Um yeah, there's something, you know, really there was something really comforting about that. I did uh it doesn't feel the same way anymore when you lie in your bed.

with your covers on watching T V the way it did in the old days when you laid in your bed and then you had the little black and white TV and you had to go up to the knob and change the station every time you were dissatisfied. Yeah. Um, but yeah, all those shows so so, you know. Nanny and the Professor and Adam twelve. Now have you ever spent any time looking back on those?

Just to see because they're almost like home movies for you. No. There's there's a couple that are on Instagram that occasionally my friends will say, like, Hey, look at this'cause I don't have social media but uh Uh uh and and that's it's kinda cute because my my mom didn't take pictures of me. I think taking pictures of your kids got expensive at at that era, so she took pictures of my brothers and sisters, but not of me.

So the only pictures that I have really are these are these video clips and uh clips from television shows. Yeah. So you're always wearing a nineteenth century bonnet. That's right. Yeah. And saying, Look out, Hoss. And I have lots of weird memories that are associated with that, you know, like the like I had to play like this kind of wild child who was all dirty and

And I was living on my own and surviving in the forest and the prop men had planted different edible things that that, you know, you could you could pull out the roots and you could just eat them and they would look like you were this savage person. And I remember, you know, going through the weeds in a scene and I pulled out this thing and I

ate a bite of it and it was fennel and I was like, Oh, this is delicious. Who knew? Who knew there was such a thing as fennel? You know what I would have done? I'd have come back and said to the prop guy, Those blackberries are amazing. I didn't plant blackberries. Katsu they're doing CPR on me. I would pick the wrong thing. I know I would. Um it was a fascinating era and I think one of the things

That has always been clear to me is that your mom did an extraordinary job. And I know it's nature and nurture. A lot of this was. Who you were, but especially in the early days of late night in the nineties when we were doing our show, we do a lot of sketches that would use a kid who would have lines and

I remembered the kids coming up to me like before the show. We did it at rehearsal and then it's time for everyone to get in makeup and the audience is loading in, the band's getting ready, the guests are coming here. And these little kids would come up to me.

And it'd say, Mr O'Brien, you are truly a m legendary luminary in the field of and I'd look up the hall and I'd see their There are parents like looking out it may break my heart, but they had clearly told their kids, You say this, you go up to him and then he'll have you back. And it's very clear to me that your mom did an extraordinary job. Uh huh.

Yeah, I really appreciate her now. I mean, I'm sure I was pretty mad at her in my thirties, like every like all of us, and then suddenly really started seeing the other side of the you know, the other side of the story. Um, she really did. I think I think there was this vicarious thrill for her, is that

She wanted me to be all the things that she couldn't be, which is she wanted me to be respected. She didn't want me to be objectified. She wanted me to have a long career, not a short one. She didn't want me to play somebody's just sister, mother, daughter. She wanted me to be central character because She grew up in a pre feminist time where she didn't have any of those opportunities.

Yeah. So it worked you know, it worked out for me. At the time, were you enjoying the experience? Did you like it? You must have loved being in front of the camera, or were you kinda neutral about it or even ambivalent? Well because I don't really remember ever starting, um

The things I loved was I loved being in a community that felt like a family. And and and honestly, mostly those were brothers and fathers because there really weren't any women around. So I liked being like being the surrogate daughter to all these guys who taught me how, you know, taught me how lenses worked and they taught me how to

uh how to load the film into the camera and the you know they would give me marks and they would say, you know, you have to turn on this line. And uh so I had I loved the family of making the actual work of being an actor I had no interest in. And in fact, I just thought it was kind of a dumb job. Um and that got supported because my mother would say, Hey, your career's gonna be over when you're 18. So what are you gonna do after that?

Um, she wasn't wrong. That's pretty much the way it usually works. Most child doctors don't work after they're eighteen and so they have to come up with, you know, what's their next act. So she was sort of preparing me for that. Um and I thought, Well, yeah, because I can't I can't do a job where I just like

look at a piece of paper, learn the lines and then say them. That's that just seems not very challenging. Um but when I was twelve I did taxi driver with uh Robert De Niro and uh something happened. You know, he kind of took me under his wing and and explained improvisation and went through, you know, the work with me. And I and I had this Eureka moment where I was like,

my fault. I have not brought enough to the equation. And this is actually the exploration of character is really an amazing thing to do for a living that I love and I love making films. And maybe this is something that I'd want to do. But it wasn't until then. Well also to be fair to you There probably wasn't a lot of let's explore your character and work on improv on Nanny and the Professor. Not to put those shows down because they're it's high art, but um

You know, uh that's probably how kids felt doing l little sketches on on our show, you know. Um Conan, when are we gonna explore my character? You're not kid. Say a line and get the hell out of here. But I like the idea of work though. I liked I liked going to work and I liked you know, being on time and I liked um I liked the discipline of all of that and I liked doing a bunch of takes and having somebody say, No do this, no do that and following them. So I I

I still am, you know, I'm a I love discipline. I like doing the same thing over and over again until I get it right. And I have that personality and I've always had that. You know, you uh obviously when you're doing Taxi Driver at that age, how old were you at the time? Twelve. Twelve. You can't you can't be aware that this is gonna become a touchstone film and a real pivot point. for nineteen seventies movies and it's gonna be so important in so many ways

You can't know that at the time, I wouldn't think. You can't No, but he was a great director and and um I had I had already done Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore with him, so I'd done that movie when I was about nine. Um and he was this extraordinary up and coming director. You know, he'd only directed three movies by the time or three or four movies maybe by the time he'd done Taxi Driver. What had he done? He had done

He did a thing called Boxcar Bertha. Yeah. Uh he did uh Mean Street. It's an amazing film. Right. This is Martin Scorsese we're talking about. He's in uh and then and then he did Alice doesn't live for near m anymore and then he did uh tax driver. So it was through Alice that he knew you and said I think This this kid would be great for this part. Yes. And I didn't know this, but your sister was a stand-in for you during some of the more sexually suggestive scenes in Taxi Driver, which

They weren't very suggestive, but yes. They weren't really very suggestive. But yes. Um because the Board of Education uh started having issues with the idea of young young kids uh doing more adult roles. They were concerned that somehow, you know, playing these characters that we would be confused about ourselves and who we were. Um

So and some of it started with Brooke Shields doing pretty baby. I think a lot of people had a lot of issues with that. So when I was about to do tax driver, the Board of Education came down and said, Okay, we this is we're not gonna allow we're not gonna sign the work permit for this and I had to we had to get a lawyer and we had to prove that I was that I was competent, I guess.

Um, and part of the deal that we made with them was if there are any sexually suggested scenes, we'll get somebody else to do it. And my mom was like, Look, her sister can come is can can come to New York for the summer. She's over eighteen and she's about the same size. And so that's what happened. Yeah. Although they weren't very suggestive. I think it was her taking down

her shirt to below her shoulders. Right. So that's nothing. Which they do on Nickelodeon now. That's true. No they do that on Nickelodeon. And then I think I yeah, I think I was supposed to like undo his fly. That was about it. Yeah, yeah. And but it also must have been nice to have your sister on set. Yeah, it was nice. That was complicated. I don't know. No, it was and it was really nice actually. And

You know, we were in that business. My brother w had been an actor when he was young and it sort of felt like a family affair thing because everybody had their jobs that they had to do. My mom was a single mom. And so with four kids, raising four kids, if one of us went and did a T V show, then somebody had to, you know, make sure that everybody got off at the bus station and, you know, have dinner and all that stuff. Yeah.

As your mom said, well, your career's over at eighteen. Yeah. The I would say ninety-nine percent of kid actors say, No, I'm gonna keep this going. You decide I'm gonna go to college. uh an excellent college and get a superior, uh really fantastic education. Thank you. And so um that is maybe not a usual move at that time. Maybe it's become more common, but to take to say, no, I'm gonna take four years out of my career and

Study. Yeah, that was a unusual move and I think we all assumed that my career would be over. So my mom um actually sold her house and moved into a tiny condo and was like, Okay, well now we're ready because By the time you know you're eighteen and you're gonna go to college, we're gonna spend every cent that we have sending you to college and uh you'll probably never work again.

Uh, I did end up doing five movies while I was in college. Um so I did m you know, I worked during the summer and then I took a semester off, a couple of semesters off. So I did do five movies while I was there. What was your major I majored in literature. The literature major, which is, you know, lots of theories of literature. Yeah. And the area of focus was African American literature. It's so fascinating because I can't make a case

that my education had anything to do with my profession. Mm-hmm. But I wouldn't change it for anything in the world. Yeah. And, you know, I r I studied history and literature of America. I was a very serious student. I wrote a massive thesis. um and had to argue it in on oral exam and uh was um you know did all the things and then cut to, you know, thirty-five years of tomfoolery.

But I was doing a um I was do I was in con I was doing a uh a tour somewhere and I'm on stage and it's going really well and I'm also playing guitar and there's like a rock vibe to it and there's comedy but also there's some music. And then at one point this big thing of paper came flopping up on the stage.

I didn't know what it was. And this is usually the the point in a concert when someone throws panties or a bra. Yeah. And if one is a certain performer, not me. I was gonna say. I didn't mean me. You get shifts of men throw their underwear at me. Yeah. But it's more of a derogatory thing. Um and they're still wearing it. Uh but they were like this big thing of paper goes clomp up on stage and I'm like, I think I have the guitar on I lean over and I pick it up and it says, you know

um you know, the uh literary progeria and the works of Flarry O'Connor and William Faulkner. It was my thesis. Oh my god. Someone had gone and found it and photocopied it and threw it up on stage and I thought, this is what I get. And also I remembered writing this. And having it thrown to me on stage was not part of the dream. But it's so weird, but I also I can't explain why, but I know that doing all of that thinking and reading has informed me

Whatever I was gonna do, if I was making clay pots now for a living, it would be helping me. But it's whatever you were doing between the ages of seventeen and twenty two, you know, th those years are really formative. And you know, maybe if you were in I don't know, you went to to Rwanda and uh spent three or four years w working in a small town, like that would be an extraordinary formative experience. So it's just about that formation. And for me, obviously us w that have had these, you know,

great experiences with education. So much of it, yes, is about what you learn, but a lot of it is about the connections that you made. Yeah. With people that taught you how to be a good friend. And, you know, you learned all those hard lessons of

people being disappointed in you and then never talking to you again, for example. Uh or I you know, I don't know. I I I definitely would not be the person that I am, but I also really feel like I learned to read, not in the real sense of, you know, uh cat and dog, but it to how to look deeply into material, to how to look deeply into people, into relationships, into literature.

and say, you know, what does this mean? And what what are the different layers of meaning that are there? And I I I think that that comes in handy every single day of my job. You um have had this extraordinary career that any actor would say, yes. Uh if I could have the Jodie Foster career. I'll take that right now. um these multiple awards, two Oscars, but you have um

always shown uh a a real interest in directing. And I've heard you say that Jody Foster who's directing is more yourself, maybe, than the different Characters you play when you're acting. Is that is that fair? Well, yeah, we all have different compartments of things that we do. And um I was born, like basically in my DNA when I was born, I was born as a head first person. So I perceive the world as the head first. I think before I feel and

A lot of people are the opposite. A lot of people are kind of stomach first people, instinct first people or heart first people. I'm just not one of those, you know, I was a head first person. And so I've always in in this job, especially a job that's very emotional and physical, I've always been sort of juggling like where is the space?

Where is the space for my head? And how do these two things work together? You know, because so much of uh directing too, and I s I I don't understand the job. I'm fascinated by people who can do it. It would terrify me, is Planning, thinking, uh making lists. Yes. Someone told me once admin. A lot of admin. But someone told me also a lot of directing is this or this.

You know, like you're do you want the derringer or do you want the uh the the the pistol? Derringer. And and it's some of it is choosing, but you know, a lot of it is how you juggle the difference between intention and Freedom. Um, you know, I have lots of plans. So as a director, I'll, you know, I'm in my hotel room all by myself. I got lots of plans. And then I come there and it's raining and, you know, the guy I hired to play the priest is, you know, drunk or

Um and I'm sorry. One time you hire me. Um but there's it's that meditation of saying like like okay now what? So what if? you know, what if what if the priest was drunk? Or what if there we no longer have a priest'cause I just fired him or um you know, you start having to have inspiration and making decisions in the moment.

Right. Where you collaborate with 175 people, whatever the energy is that's on the set. It's not just the actors, it's also all the people that are doing the various jobs, bring their expertise, but also maybe even their past, you know, their relationships with their parents. Uh, every time a prop masters, you know, decides that the character is gonna have a shot glass, an Elvis shot glass. It's because they're bringing baggage from their past into it and they're saying like

What what is true to this character? I know, I'm gonna go for the Elvis shot glass. And um so I love that. I love hearing other voices and then being the person that says yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. I think uh what I can relate to and what you're talking about a lot, both in the early television work and just throughout your career and even a as you talk about your college experience. I like being around a gang of people. I like having that community. I spend

Um, I've always say if someone says they enjoy my comedy, I say ninety nine percent of it you don't hear. Huh. It's messing around with people in my world. uh and family and friends. I like all the jokes that happened as we're trying to build the thing that people see. Right. And that sounds to me like directing is this ultimate experience of a massive group. It's like Robin Hood and his Merry Men. You just get all these people together and say let

Let's work together on this thing. And a lot of the joy uh doesn't necessarily show up on the screen. Uh it's part of the process. Yeah. And and I mean, well, the big caveat is you are the last word.

So you can do all the horsing around, people can have all the opinions they want, but at the end of the day, you're the person who has to have the personality to say, I see the big picture. You know, I'm not just in the moment enjoying the the yuck yuck. I see the big picture and I want the train to leave at eight thirty five and I want it bo to arrive at nine forty. And you guys have given me all of these different choices along the way. We're gonna

i to see the big picture means to be able to see the way through. And so much of that is about Is it Is it true or is it fake? Yeah. Those are the only only question I ask all day. I same thing as an actor, same thing honestly as a human being, as a parent. Is it true or is it fake? Is this how I feel honestly or is this something that I'm trying to put on and to impress people? Or Do I genuinely feel like this scene is funny, or do I think that the audience will think it's funny?

So I'm gonna do it for them. You know, I'm always just trying to choose the most instinctual and the most true thing because I don't trust anything else. Yeah. I've always thought if I'm having fun in this moment. And it's honest, most people watching it or listening to it will probably agree. And that's not always true, but you just have that instinct.

And you have to go with it. And if you don't have that instinct, you're lost anyway. You should probably not be doing this. But ha as you get older too, I mean the great thing that opens up as you get older is you've you spent a number of years thinking that thinking that your central story was the most interesting thing.

Right, because me is very interesting. And and you you know, i especially as a woman, you know, there are things that you want to achieve at at uh you know, I wanted to make films where uh where I was playing these central characters that were in charge of their own lives and that they weren't just adjuncts to the men, um that they were fully fleshed, complicated human beings. But then you reach a certain point where you get older and you're like

Wow, I'm just so bored with myself. I can't stand it. And you really start I don't get that yet. You start realizing all the voices you left behind that you you weren't listening to and they're all out there and you think, Oh my god, I can't believe I wasn't listening, I wasn't paying any attention. And then the real joy comes. When you start saying like Oh now that I have wisdom and I'm older

How can I serve your story? So you want to tell this story that nobody's ever heard before about a bunch of people that nobody's ever heard how this happened. How can I use all of this old patriarchy that I have to serve that purpose to support?

And that's so much more fun than anything else and the pressure's off of you. Yeah. Well I look forward to having that moment. Because right now I am enamored with myself. And I've been doing this a long time. You know, I I have to bring up um many people consider it a perfect movie. I know I do, but Silence of the Lambs is just perfect.

in so many ways, the storytelling and I think really revolutionary because there are about nine things that I see in Silence of the Lambs that now regularly occur in television movies. ringing the bell, you think it's to one house, the door opens, it's not that house. When I saw that movie for the first time in a theater, I was just completely spellbound. And obviously your performance uh a massive part of that. And what I'm thinking about is In that moment, this felt very revolutionary because

Clarice is um put in this very deep water and there are also scenes where she's in a very male experience. There are all these men in the room examining the body, doing the postmortem. And you need to navigate that. And I feel like that is a watershed performance that's defining but really defining w women in a job that's always been depicted as a male job.

Up until that point, obviously the the script has flipped since then, but I don't know if young people realize how at the time that was we hadn't seen I don't remember seeing anything remotely like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It really it really tread over a a stuff that hadn't been thought about before. And and mostly it was just like the hero's journey was reserved for men. And so it was a new thing to have a woman participate in what was a tragic

you know, has been a a myth for our for centuries. Um but all of that was in the book because the book was magical. It just was one of those perfect texts.

And uh it doesn't happen very often in your life. So I would say, you know, silence of lambs for me and potentially for me true detective like might have been the two greatest experiences that I've had working where you get a piece of material that isn't I don't wanna say inspired by the gods, but there's something happening in this material where it's just talking about something so true and so so so mixed up with our own

collective unconscious, that it's undeniable. And then everybody that climb climbs aboard does the best work of their life effortless. Yeah. And um that only it really never happens. So when it does happen, like you really have to be jumping up for joy because it i when it happens, it's so easy and so much fun. And it was such a such a fun movie to make.

Yeah. You know, we had Aloha Fridays where everybody wore Hawaiian shirts on Fridays. And uh there was a lot of Yeah, it was actually a lot of fun. On silence of the Land That's great. Bring your kid to work day. What are we doing? We're throwing people into a pit who've been kidnapped. She mommy Um Yeah. That's a fingernail. Oh wow. Um yeah. I also think one of the most I think it's one of the greatest depictions of what bravery really is.

the the the climax of the movie when you are working your way Oh god through the pitch dark. Last day of shooting. Was it really? Okay. So mad. All of us were so mad. Yeah.

And you can some in some scenes you can see you're wearing a Hawaiian shirt. Infrared glasses. You're like, is that a Hawaiian shirt on Agent Starling? But you are working your th way through and what I meant a lot to me and still resonates with me about that scene, is there are a lot of scenes where the hero and often the male hero is uh

traditionally doing the brave thing and I love Clint Eastwood, don't get me the wrong way, but they're doing the brave thing and they're doing it in a kick ass male way. Right. You are Terrified. You are terrified. Terrified and pushing forward. And the combination of two it's completely believable. There's not one

millisecond where I don't completely believe that that's what you're doing. You are pushing forward. Someone's life is at risk. This is what you're going to do. But you are terrified every second and you're making yourself push forward. And I think that film cinematic depictions of real bravery I've ever seen because it's often portrayed as

Fire, I'm gonna get in there. Get out of my way. And that doesn't read to me the same way. Well, actually there's a big laugh in that uh the scene where she finally gets to the woman in the pet pit and she says like You're safe. And the whole audience just like hysterically. And then you say, I'll be right back. Yeah, I'll be right back. And then she curses you out. Be right back. I don't think I'm ever gonna see you again.

Um yeah, because it's honest, you know, because it was really truth truthful and uh that there wasn't a bunch of posing about it. And so that's a I think a good example of saying, you know, what do you pick in that moment? What choices do you make? you know, who do you listen to? Well, you don't listen to a list of like, well, what did Clint Eastwood do in his movie? I think you you really

You you say to yourself, you know, who would I be if this happened? And you're you you follow honesty and instinct. And hopefully that's really the only God that you pray to.

Well, the the people I'm always most impressed with are the people that uh keep challenging themselves regardless of what they've achieved in the past. Uh you uh have made this film a private life which is um in French. Yep. And your character is speaking uh f you know, fluent French the entire time in the movie and um I'm not gonna take on that challenge, if you don't mind. I'd be there listening to what's the like Who is it? Yeah. Duolingo? Duolingo. I'd be like on headsets on Duolingo. Um

I'm stunned by this challenge. And you have said I didn't realize That Um, this is a a part of your career I did not know about that you have been really immersing yourself in French culture for a big part of your life. Yeah. Yeah. I I had I had a French education. So at nine years old my mom kind of dropped me into a French immersion school. Um, at the time it was the 70s and she had never traveled anywhere, and she took one trip to France, like a bus tour, a touristy bus tour.

She went there and she came back and said, Okay, that's it. You're gonna we're leaving this country. You're gonna be a French actor. I'm gonna put you in this school and then, you know, if we have to split, that's that's what's gonna happen. And so she put me in the school. I cried for, you know, probably six or seven months'cause it was horrible.

I didn't understand anything and I was doing math and science and history and geography and French. And then finally I did. And so you i in this film, you're speaking you're uh fluent French the entire time and it

change your acting style that you're speaking in this foreign language. Oh yeah, I'm a totally different person in French. First of all, I have a really high voice in French. I don't know why. Really? Can you give me an example? Well a lot of the ladies that I learned French from they also And I guess I imitated them when I was a kid, so yeah. So I have a you know, quite a confident way about me in English and in French I'm just

c total vulnerable person. Very unsure of myself and um I wouldn't say screechy, but definitely a you know, a little bit a little bit higher voice. Uh yeah, I have a totally different personality. I have the the personality of somebody who's eternally frustrated that they can't communicate themselves well enough. I I I swear to God if I I I do uh speak Some Spanish?

and I like to break it out every now and then. Oh nice. And I was using it uh yeah, I try and use it as much as I can in Los Angeles where there's a lot of opportunities to do it. It doesn't always go very well, but I like to try. Um and your voice gets a lot lower. Mine gets a lot lower and I sprout a little mustache. A little uh Telemundo mustache. But I know that um

There's a rhythm to these languages and you start to behave a little differently. And uh and and I would imagine I if I spoke French I could see myself becoming more existential. Yeah. And maybe a little more dismissive and oh you know and you should try it. Yeah. I know, I know, but I might start smoking red wine. Drinking red wine at at at eleven in the morning and it just being uh That sounds like a good idea. Uh just being I don't know, you see I don't know. I but

I do think that different languages. Um That's true. Yeah. Um I'm playing a expatriate in the movie. So there's something about that, you know, people that leave everything behind and they say, My whole identity, everything that I am, my my past, my family, everything about me that I've always considered as me. I'm gonna leave that behind. I'm gonna break out and be a brand new person.

And in some way very often the expatriates choose some fantasy version of what it would be like to be a French person. Um, you know, suddenly they're wearing a beret and they're, you know, their house is right on one of those lovely parks and they start Um, telling you they're on vacation and that they can't do things.

Um, but but I I thought that was interesting, an interesting thing to explore. Like who wants to erase their past and become this new fantasy and the what happens when you do that? What will how do your relationships suffer? And do you become the I think the irony is, and the film does have a lot of comedy to it. The irony is, is that this psychoanalyst, very Furdian psychoanalyst, which we make a lot of fun of her uh because of that.

um, goes on this murder investigation thinking that her patient's been killed potentially, and then very quickly realizes, Oh no, she's just investigating herself Um so she kind of goes on through hypnosis and a number of things and starts realizing. You know, that maybe she's not a great mom and that she you know, there's parts of her.

of her relationship with her ex that she still has questions about. Um so it's it's more of a self discovery movie than it is a murder mystery. Aaron Powell What's the longest time you've ever spent living in France or a foreign country?'Cause that's a little bit of a

It's a common dream, but I've always thought I would like to live in Paris for a year or London for a year or Dublin for a year and just immerse myself in being someone Uh slightly different.

You get to be a different person when you're in another country. Well you get to do that when you're on location as an actor, because when you're on location as an actor, you're usually there for three and a half months. If you're a director, you're there for at least six months. If you're doing a limited series like true detective. I was there for seven months, but the director was there for a year and a half in Iceland. Reykjavik Iceland.

So um yeah, you get to become this brand new person that's obsessed with something. Because you're if you're making a show or making a movie. You're just obsessed with twenty four seven with this one thing and um it's it's every bit of energy that you have is is put into this one thing. And I that's how I like to live. We I mean I do these travel shows and I get to go someplace for Usually about ten days. But I do in even in given ten days, I try to

forget and it's really nice'cause sometimes you're in countries where they they don't know who you are, they don't care, and you get to be someone else. And I love to just um, you know, when you're in the van and you're going to the next location and you're driving through uh Manila or you're driving through um uh Mumbai looking in little side streets and wondering, okay, what is that person's life like or what is it like to live in that

apartment or that house right there. And I find I say this a lot, I think it's the gr the best antidote to ignorance is to go to other places, talk to other people, see how they live. It's this great loofah that, you know,'cause we all get desensitized. travel as much as you can. It doesn't have to be expensive travel or an eight travel, but just go someplace and try to

take in what it's like to not be you. Yeah. And it doesn't mean that you ever really come to this conclusion where you totally understand that culture. You never will, right? You're you're gonna you'll always be bringing baggage from your own background and your own culture. But that

part of it is growing and learning and evolving and changing. So that's kind of what I do when I'm not shooting is, well, first of all I go home and I'd, you know, walk the dog every single day at the same time and I eat the same thing for breakfast and I You know, I do I love my routine and then I start getting a little itchy. And then uh that's that's the thing that I like to do. I like to travel. Um, the same thing every morning. Yeah. I'm one of those

Is it anything crazy or is it pretty simple? I'm a granola person. I know. That has some that has some bad references. Oh I like my party. I know he's done. Uh huh. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about it. You're singing it like I like cocaine too. Oh, I got a granola guy if you want to meet him. Okay. You can't eat granola with you right now. It's crazy. My wife lies at that.

makes granola. And it's like the greatest granola in the world and the the smell just fills the house. And I'm thinking, oh wow, you know that That should be a cologne. Where that is a cologne? Well that might be your next sponsorship kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Conan granola. And it kinda there's a there's a ring to it. Yeah. Conan granola. Right after we sell the pomade. The cone pomade. Yeah. Conanol la Con Conanola? Conanola. I messed it up. I was trying to I was trying to Conan.

What? I I she should own it. There are no mistakes. Okay, I was trying to combine conan with granola and then it didn't go well, so I'm sorry. Conanola. Never call out a mistake. Okay.

All right. Yeah. I killed it. That's what show business is. Yeah, that's right. The biggest mistake I all all those years of doing a late night show that I ever saw was a guest would come out and it's going okay. And then the guests would Inevitably like maybe three minutes in or four minutes, if they hadn't been to the rodeo before, they would say, I'm sorry, this is just terrible and the whole audience would say would I could see them, they would completely lose the audience.

Because the audience would say, We've just been told this isn't good. Right. And I would think to myself, don't Ever tell them this isn't good. But Conanola was bad. Oh, yeah. Terrible. Yeah, yeah, it was bad. Absolutely terrible. I'm glad it was the only thing you chimed in with. I was saving it. When you brought up granola, I was like, this is my moment. Yes, it's the moment. You've been honing that all night.

If she brings up granola, I'm gonna say Conanola. Sonos, you're a genius. Um you know, Jody, you have an it It's such a part of your personality, especially one the times I've gotten to know you, but your sense of humor. You have a great sense of humor. And one of the things that I and I remembered because I think sometimes when someone has success on a certain level uh in um these important areas in film and you think, oh well, you know it's

It's Jody Foster. And I remember the first time you came on a the late night show. I was thinking, Oh, you know, I you know, I okay, I I don't know how this is gonna be. Uh I've gotta be ready'cause Jodie Foster's coming. She's very important and and then you you it's uh you said, um Like midway through the interview that you wanted to wear a Wisconsin cheese on your head. Yeah, big Packers fan. You brought a big block of of

cheese that fits on your head and I think I wore one too. Yeah. And I was like the beer cozy at home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I remember thinking like, oh, and it's just i I mean, it is sort of like, oh my God, there's Laurence Livier. Oh, he's got a fart cushion with him. Thank you. I'm a I'm a really light person, honestly.

You know, people say, like, wow, you're so serious. I'm like, why do they ask me those serious questions? Of course, I'm gonna respond seriously, but no, I'm a very light person. And strangely, I just love dark drama. I love doing dark drama, but I am not there's not a moment of darkness. Really what you see is That's it. There's nothing more. All right. Well it has been an absolute thrill talking to you. Uh I've not seen a private life yet, but I'm thrilled to see it. I watched the trailer.

So good. Yeah, it's it's it it it harkens back to another time, you know, kind of a Woody Allen movie uh of late of the old days that you know you could have something that has many different genres. So it's kind of like a comedy, but it's sort of a romantic thing, but it's also a thriller and kind of a mystery.

Aaron Ross Powell And probably you also felt a little bit of freedom that if you're making a film like this and it's i it's in French, that there's like this freedom almost to switch genres a little more and not be pigeonholed. Yeah. And and even like, well, so what? I mean, I just want to do something hard. I like doing hard things. And um, if it's no good then

Say la vie! I'll just go home and polish all my awards. Oh you didn't like it, did you? Okay, okay. Is that an Oscar? Well, it's my second one. Oh, okay. Well don't you feel crushed that not really. Um well Jody, I hope we've edged you a little bit out of ambivalence. But that's gonna maybe take a while. Uh thank you so much. This was a real joy. Yeah, me too. Really

Okay. America's been holding its breath. And I say America, the world. We are a global concern. Recently, I believe it was Netflix, um, announced that they were coming out with a uh new star search. And to promote it, they were uh talking about all the great stars that were discovered on Star Search and all these impressive names. Went flying around the screen and my name was there. Yeah. And this puzzled us because I really have no connection to Star Search. I didn't start out on Star Search as

Sona pointed out, I have no real talent. Oh I just wasn't sure what your talent I don't think you know either. You don't know either. Yeah, yeah. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah, you know. Ventriloquist. But anyway, uh Ventriloquist. I uh that's what I would have tried. So one star this This was a puzzle. And we brought in uh our uh crack legal expert who works here at Team Cocoa, David Melmed. And this is now part three because the story

evolving. Now, David, welcome. Uh thank you for uh having me here today. Okay. Appreciate it. Yeah. All right. Uh okay well God. All right. Well, it's going to be incredibly formal. Yeah. Yeah. And you know I love your jazz station. I I just it's cool to I've been working on that voice. David, we brought you in to ask you some questions. You've been very helpful.

Uh all of us were first wondering why they might have been using my name, promoting uh Star Search and and inferring that I was someone who came up through Star Search when I did not. Yes. Uh Sona was very angry on my behalf. And said she wanted to

Cut a bitch. Cut a bitch. Cut a bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh I was not angry. I was interested in both being paid, but I didn't want it taken down, which you said was a very complicated legal maneuver. Yes. I I wanted to insist because I love my name being out there. So all this to say things have evolved.

What's the latest, David Momed? The latest is your name has been taken down. Okay. That's not what I want. I know, I know, so I apologize for that. But it but it has been. Is this because you took some action? I'd like to think that I was part of it, but I think it was sort of a uh You did yield. So we wielded the podcast. And they you didn't make a call. I did not. Oh.

I said that you were saying, well, I'd like to take some credit. Yeah. You didn't do anything. Well, that's I was on the podcast. No, you did nothing. And then you're getting paid. I sat here to decide. Discuss possibilities. His presence is everything. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. But no, no, I think it was it was a uh the group discussion I think uh went out and immediately I wouldn't say immediately, I would say in the next

Twenty four hours? Nameless TV. That is fast. And were you told why? Is there a reasonable? I looked into it. Okay. And I don't want to say that this is exactly what happened, but I have a pretty good idea how it happened. Well, this is why we brought you in. Um and the only reason we brought you in. Let's hear what you have to say. So I think there it's a two part. Okay. The first I think there was a there was a I think the first part is there was a human error.

The second part which I think is more interesting is it was an AI hallucination. Oh, that's fascinating. Yes. So tell us how this happened. And you know what? As always, David Melmed walked in. with a lot of notes. Yes. And it's a printout and then it's just covered in highlights. It looked like you just took the MCAT. Yes. Highlights and squiggles and notes. Tell us what happened. Isn't the LSAT for lawyers?

I I I changed him over to a doctor, MCAT. Oh, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he already took the LSAT, clearly. Oh, oh yeah. But I wanted to take the MCAT. Oh I mean I didn't get it. Good good call. Okay. Good worthwhile interruption and man are we the podcast that never has a hitch.

Go ahead, David. Doctor David. So uh okay, let's let's get into the I I can't tell you exactly how the human error, but I I would imagine that someone within the marketing team at Netflix uh was asked to research this, right? It's a reboot. Uh a ton of celebrities when you hear Star Search have Buddy Ebsen, go ahead, continue. Buddy Epson, yes. Uh Brad Garrett was one of them.

Um I think if you were to ru if if you were to run a search in just a basic I'm just gonna use ChatGPT, for example, right? That's kinda everyone knows that. Or Gemini. Um, what is Conan's connection to the show? We've said none. But your connection to n to Star Search in terms of a search, and I did look up some past uh connection that you may have had with the show at least in print.

So I just want to read you something that that if you could end this sentence, I'd be thrilled. I just want to live in the plane has been circling the airport. For a while. You know what? I'm worried I'm worried you're running low on fuel. And you know what? There's a fog coming in off the Pacific. This is our third installment of this segment. We have about eight minutes to get through this. Oh, we will. Okay. Don't worry.

Oh don't you worry. So as soon as he's done talking, we'll be more confused than ever. So nineteen ninety three, you took over late night. Yep. Right. There was an article that was written that said suggested O'Brien had probably had less quality experience than an average star search contestant. Right, right. Okay. That is the first of all, that's the tenor of the environment I was working in. And at the time I was proud my dad got an article published. But

Yeah, I came out of nowhere and people were freaked out. That that was my hesitant uh sorta hesitation to t to say that'cause I didn't know. Listen, I've been slammed before I'll be slammed again. Okay. Uh Andy, you're Former sidekick, um, did a remote as a judge in nineteen ninety four uh on Star Search. So that would be a possible connection there. Uh you've also had Ed McMahon uh on your show multiple times. Right. So there is that, um there's that connection.

And then the Netflix just current. You know, you mentioned the Mark Twain Award. Yep. So if you were just to run a basic sort Uh certain and celebrities, possibly including Conan O'Brien, the AI would generate your name on a list, right? Yeah. So where that runs into issue is the verification. And it's become a problem. It's become a problem within marketing, within companies like Netflix. You need someone to double check.

Chat GPT Correct You need someone to double check because AI uh y here's the thing. I am connected to many things because I've interviewed hundreds of thousands of people. That's insane. That's not true. But but a lot. I've interviewed a lot of people and there are all these different connections and the different bits I've done and the parodies and uh so yes. Chat GPT is gonna be throwing my name into lists of serial killers.

Uh recipes, um, you know, oh uh various weather conditions. I'm gonna be showing up in a lot of places I shouldn't show up. Yes. And I think what's interesting too, and let's so if we narrow this just to comedy. AI can't differentiate between what's satire and what is true. I see. AI is not there's no fact-finding mission within AI. It just reads patterns.

Okay. I thought this was gonna be more fun than you explaining ALA. explaining AI was gonna be fun. I didn't know that it was gonna go this deep. Oh yeah. And we're also at our time limit. Also also you're not interjecting at all. You're just listening to him. You in my defense. I fell soundly asleep. I know, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to be able to do that.

I think a level of sleep that is very restorative. I I read in an article about this that the Backstreet Boys were also included and they were never on Star Search either. So it's like a double mistake. That no one's verified. Well, I want to know is has Netflix answered for this? Yeah. Have they issued a an apology? Also, can I just be careful here? Yeah.

I'm okay if if people wanna list me as one of the greats that came up through Star Search along with Beyonce and Adam Sandler and, you know, Dave Chappelle and Uh fine, go for it. I was not insulted. You were the one that was insulted. I was upset. And now my name has been RIP from this promotion. Yes. I think I've figured it out. Oh while you guys are going to be able to do that. Oh wait, so we brought in we saw we brought in Melmed. Yes. We brought in Melmed who in his

Who brought in a ton of notes? Yes. Well, and then blithered and blathered, and then you quietly have the answer. No, because thanks to Melmid. Suggests. Again, just kind of Conan O'Brien and Star State. But you also did the thing he said was erroneous in the first place. I found this article from G.

the date. June fifth, twenty twenty three, and it was by this website or this publication. And it lists thirty nine stars. And Conan, you are, along with some of those others that we saw on that screenshot, you are listed here. I'm gonna That's crazy. Wait a minute. So wait a minute. This is an article from From twenty twenty three. But it says it's in the Saturday evening post. Right.

So That's a m magazine that went out of business when we when we won World War Two, the last person read the last Saturday Evening Post. So my guess is that whoever at Netflix was in charge of Putting this list together, found this article and did not do any further research. Are the Backstreet Boys listed in this? Uh Sharon Stone? Steve Odin Crock. Factory boys are listed. Oh wait, it says crazy. So I I think Aguardo Charles Manson? That's insane. That is insane. I I think what

Yes. So just to elaborate, I I'm gonna what do we say, piggyback on that? I I think that is what AI that is what AI will would take. An article like this in addition to what has already been existing and it would spit out your name. Because AI is reading the Saturday evening post. No, no, no. I don't think it's reading. It's it's that someone has entered this data into the platform. And and I guess the point is the the verification is the important part.

that in in business you know, and and I will I know you're Fallen asleep, Conan. But I will say that. 'Cause I have a dentist appointment. I think the important thing is damages. Netflix owes money or an explanation. All of us an apology. Yes, they do. Yeah. I don't see how you guys come into it. I don't see how you guys come into it. We're part of your lore now. No, no, I uh you please, no damages for you.

Right. You mentioned legacy and the idea of that there's a legal claim of false light where it's you know, it's highly offensive. Your professional legacy, where you came from, where you started, right? They were getting am I right? And I I know you hate when I use this word, but I'm gonna use it again. I've been using it a lot lately. They're getting some Riz off of my name, right? Yeah. I don't know. Suddenly they're like Ansel Elgort.

Because they use my name. Yes. Is that A a person and B did I use Riz correctly? It is a person. I don't think you used it correctly. Is the streaming service. So why would the streaming serv I guess maybe I'm sectioning? I just want you to stop saying a word. This You think you sexed it up. Yeah, I gave them Riz. No, you did. You made this rated G.

Yeah. Oh okay you brought it down for something, you know flyover states. Listen, I think for the first time this is what's valuable with this conversation. And I'm desperate to figure this out because I want it to be valuable. I think for the first time that Someone finally has pointed out that AI might be problematic. Oh, yes. And that's what I was.

Trying to articulate. Okay. Yeah. And and I know I'm gonna get comments. You don't know this, you don't I I'm speaking generally. Are you reading the comments you get? Don't shit stop. Never read your I said comments may. And yes, I read every s I Are you kidding me? Doesn't everybody read? This is the us absolutely. Well, if I don't read them, they're sent to me anyway. Okay. Usually oh, did you see this? Did you see this? And usually the negative ones. Hey, can I s a question?

Do you bill me for your time when you're reading your comments? Of course I do. Do people'cause I got a bill from you the other day for six hundred thousand dollars. Yes. And it said rating. And that was a discount. Yeah. That was a friends and family. So

Don't read the comments. No, no. Do you get objectified because of how he objectifies you? I I I'm not gonna tell you exactly what these comments look what you did. I pointed out that he's a good looking fellow. Oh, so now we live in an era where one guy Can't say to a male employee, you're a good looking guy, uh, sexy, I wanna do you. I'll do you like a ham sandwich. No.

I just made it up. It's a joke I read in a nineteen forty five version of edition of the Sun Amy Poet. Listen, we're gonna wrap this up. Yes. But now Med, thank you uh for the uh deepest sleep I've had in a while. Yes. Yes. Cells.

Dividing. Uh cells that usually don't regenerate. Nerve cells regenerating in my body right now because you uh droned on. But I also thank you for your expertise for putting the time in and I wanna thank you, Eduardo, for Within seconds of this guy consulting uh shelves full of old English legal volumes.

And the other thing is that the other thing is you just checked out the internet and it said I think it's this article. And you went, uh excuse me. Might be this one. And you in the corner, you opened a book. That's as uh large as an adult. Heavy man and you blew onto it, Dustin Moths flew everywhere. That's true. And you know what he did though? You verified. That's true. That's that's the genius. Yeah. What he d I mean, that's what they needed to do. Yeah. Right? Trust but verify.

Yeah. Reagan. Reagan. This has been gotten to the bottom of, but I don't think Satisfaction is here. Netflix, you owe an apology. Yeah fucking bitches. Right. Cut cut that bitch. Yes. Cut. Or we're cut. We're coming to your office and we're gonna start. Cutting some bitches. Yes. And Netflix, Netflix, you've been warned, bitch. Netflix. I just want to point out I don't take part in this feud. This guy wants to pleasure a bitch. I know. I think you are a very comely bitch.

I like the turn of your ankle. Uh I like the way the sun glistens off your brow. And I I want no trouble from you, you king of all streamers, you? And rightly so, rightly so, Netflix! Uh sell out. No, we want an apology and we want some money. Love you Netflix. Wanna know Brian? Produced by Mexico. Matt Gorley. Executive produced by the Take it away. Talent producers. Engineering and Eduardo Perez and You can rate and review this show on Apple Podcasts and Apple.

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