We' re here this Tuesday nineteen. I swore yesterday that it was nineteen and that it was Tuesday, that is, I was a little out of date yesterday. But welcome, but Creuse is Tuesday nineteen, welcome, Dr Amel Hello. How about today, yes, it' s Tuesday nineteen, very good night, a pleasure to be together again. Welcome to Efra Babe, girls, how you are, how nice to see us on this fresh Tuesday, what a like manchist. So yeah, hey here, yeah,
it' s already been clouded, that' s it here. You' re fresh where I am, but I understand you' re at it. But yes, here it' s fresh hear and I' ve already been told no more. You rise to ask for the voice. So I' m going to use at least my marker before while I get a highlightable plume. This head I have remarkable feathers. Wow, or not. They don ' t ask for your lupis wand. Oh, I don' t have a single thousand years of magic girls, because I' m not bringing them.
I' ll tell you what to do with my magic wands later that Dr Mel doesn' t listen because they say she doesn' t send me and I' m not leaving. My domininis are playing. I have as I taught them, as I taught those who have seen the program that is for members on the full moon that we have pending the next program for members.
I taught my magic wands that day. I have three, and then two of them I put down my pillow every night and then the dream I dream some thing, then I forget, but dream I hear but welcome, thank you for joining us today we have. Let' s talk about three
topics today. Let' s talk about the premiere of quait n the Set, which is this documentary that premiered research record as a complaint about what was happening on this channel Nickelodeon, especially with respect to producer Robert Schnyder and what happened there and the answer there. We' re also going to talk about Gloria Trevi' s lawsuit against Chumbel Torres. It' s not the first time. Looks like he doesn' t like it there at all. And
the other subject will be a little bit, the Academy. Let' s talk about the Academy, because once again the Academy comes a very good Aztec television project, which was a success in some broadcasts in others. Not so much, I once to Magda Rodriguez, that in peace. At ease when he went to a booth where I worked, I proposed to him at that time and why not. It was 2, 000 and I said why don ' t you do the End of the World Academy. And then let him
see if he wins and whoever wins be the Antichrist. And he didn' t think it was a good idea. He told me no, if that format the two of you didn' t want it. I don' t remember it was at the maybe two thousand two two. Then it was the two thousand and twelve that was going to end the world. That' s when I do have it They were exactly how they were then. Me. The truth is that it was a very good idea, because if the world had ended, it would indeed have been a success. Imagine, but good.
We can always do it, there are always conspiracy theories. You have to do it. Look, we have to do it here on the channel, the reality of the end of going, because we' re going to do it look at it, which is sad now that it already appeared that they saw the most lupic, is Andale who of no more and nothing. We' re not going to participate Hey, you' re one of them. Yeah, of course not. No. Don' t listen today Give us your likes and before we start, give us likes, give us whatever
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probably going so let' s think about the Academy. What they knew about the Academy, because since they began to announce it, no yes, notice that good selling had as guest Mr Héctor Martínez, who was director of the first generation of the Academy and of other two generations, alternating with other directors
that I have been reviewing, because they are very interesting. Now, if you want, I' ll tell you a little bit about them, but in itself, the note is that they' re already going to start auditioning. He says that out there, from April, to mid- April, that they are going to do massive auditions, as they have always done in different parts of the country and that well, that invites everyone and that they are not afraid that they will be treated. Super well, it' s
a project. And now, obviously, they make their comments there that how beautiful the Academy is. Unlike other contests and I was struck powerfully that Patticho pol makes a comment of no and what was always very well that psychologist what was called Litzi or what. I don' t know what and then he already said ah yes the name of the psychologist they had. I don' t know if they had it in all generations, but I remember very well
that the first one did. No, and then he said that because that was very important, because it helped them a lot and they took care of them, because they took great care of the students and that that' s why the project was so complete and redounded, because they take care of them and treat them well. I couldn' t help but remember what I just told you. Recently, when we were talking about Eduardo Capetillo, who at the time was also director of the Hernia and because they did not treat very
well. Sometimes some students, like the student who remembered the name that humiliated her in one of the concepts. So what was Hyan' s name called a Cuban girl. It is not true to a Cuban woman, then much as much as they had a psychologist, because the poor one. I think that impact, imagine in front of millions of people who were watching the academy. I think it must have been very serious for her. But well I was pondering that how nice that psychologist, how nice the great teachers, but
they didn' t say a woe. Héctor Martínez also emphasized that everyone is doing well that even if they are not winners and even if they do not do the big races, after all, that is something that changes their lives. And then they named triumphants of the academy, because obviously they spoke of Carlos Rivera, exactly Carlos Rivera spoke of Emidia. They didn' t talk about Lloridia. And then, like, I just happened to hear you say.
And that' s why gratitude is very important, because you should never forget what the house is, where you came from and the one that gave you the opportunity to shine And I said ay this sounds a little indirect too, because there are some who already walk in other places and not precisely on Aztec television. What they didn' t say is who' s going to drive, who' s going to be the members of the screaming panel they have, or who' s going to be nothing more than the director,
who was present. So, then, but they' re already starting to give you what to talk about You hear because I had heard a rumor. If anyone in the audience has heard any rumors here, welcome, welcome, Facebook, YouTube, Spreaker, Spotify, iTunes, Amazon, I' m going to ask you, I' m going to post all the links about the program where you can find us on each of the platforms and ples share
us for this program and this project to grow. But according to me I had heard that I could return as driver Ingrid Coronado, that I would not be bad at all and Ingry is very good driver this very identified with people. Now the jurors, I remember they were the last ones I remember Horacio Villalobos. But since then he went to Telemundo and then he was as we already know, we have to because who knows they already come and go. It' s not everywhere, because Lolita Cortes is there, she' s
not there, then she comes back. Lolita Cortes was also director in some, but then returned from criticism. I think my next career is the wolf academy, because I' m referring to the evidence that, I mean, you' re at the academy. That' s where the academy comes in and that' s not it. And so give it or you do, all of you bring it. So it' s not real, so I don' t think that Alita Cortés came back because I think that from one to five, the directors of the academy do have some freedom to be directors
of the institution. But once she came in mayra Rodriguez and it was the format in a way that was good, because she did what she thought prudent.
But yes, the format was already totally undone because it was already a circus, it was no longer the academy that we saw at the beginning with that discipline, that the kids had, that they did humiliate them and that lic and Rodríguez, as a psychologist, left much to be ventilating the problems even of those or those that it is of already going, because I remember that she wanted to be like the protagonist of the head. If not she wanted to make time for the winner. I remember. I' ll tell
you something short. I don' t even know her. I met her once when she went to a booth when I worked at Radioformula with Flor Rubio. She was sent to an interview and was with us in the cabin. Must have been at least two blocks, which means half an hour. From there I was going to the Table of Marta Figueroa and she happened to coincide there because I was also going to the Table, but at the Table she no longer greeted me, she no longer met me the same day leaving there
which happened to me the same thing happened to me. They know who happened to me with Polopolo. But on the contrary, when I came to Imagen and met Polopolo, he joked me. He told me that well, he follows me, or why it is normal, because it is logical or not simple and normal man. She was telling me that you came chasing me, because I had just been radio formula and we met there in Imagen, but with her don' t notice her there on the way from Avenida Universidad to
Poblanco already her memory is gone. It is that, because more than you know how Ephraim says, what directions would be given to them or which line would be marked. But besides, she did, she liked, like, being very much ahead of her. I was at the concerts all the time and all the time, and I don' t know the truth what their real function was. There because what we saw on the screen, because it had not much to do with a true therapeutic accompaniment in a circumstance of so
much pressure and so much stress. I don' t know. What we saw, I don' t think it would be around, but yes, since you' ve taken Ephraim. But, Ahorita, he' s coming back. Right now, I thanked you then, because they did talk about it and then they talked about the gratitude to have to the house, that threw you and that made you, that gave you a place and yes remembering I already got a little bit to see because I did like it very much.
The first generation of the Academy we are talking about many years ago and it was something very new here in Mexico and that hit them that barbarous yes, it involved one a lot emotionally with the participants, their stories, which at first showed them quite measurably. I would say from time to time yes, using this resource to make you cry and to ra the exploitation of the morbid to the most that was given. But it got worse. It was
getting worse and worse, more and more. And I think that' s possibly what he did was I charge you in a circus and I do, that part where you have to be grateful. Of course and you have to remember the clear origin and know where I saw everything from. I totally agree with that. But, for example, the students of the Academy, at least those of the first and some subsequent generations, had a ten- year contract with Aztec television, where they could do nothing and then they were forced
to act, without knowing, to act as soap operas. It was the time that soap operas were still being made and it was clear that you televised that it was forming a cast, of course. But then it happened that there was no work for everyone because it was seventy seventy, you already get seventy that you also have hold of them because they can' t do anything, they can' t go looking for work elsewhere, they can' t
go because you already have them. So there' s gratitude, but it was also like having them with a shackle so you wouldn' t fly. Carlos Rivera took a long time to get out and was very grateful. Carlos Rivera has been very grateful, but what was my friend and I stopped seeing him and already a lot of extins talk about me. If bel tells him to send him, hello, but he was my friend. One day you ' re going to talk about so many anecdotes that I' m good at.
Not like this. Book, uh, that' s on a show for him, on a show for me,' cause right now the grimp almost missed. I think he' s looking at Patricio. Rafael says the reality shows formula is twenty percent. The 80 percent reality show looks exactly Patrick, but you know what reality has that what and what it is I'
m going to say is very sad, very sad. He in the reality, like the voice, like the academy, like all the real important ones are the famous, the contestant is like a guinea pig that if it hits, for it is gain, but if not, nothing will happen, because what I want are judges that stand out, make scandal, that are very famous, it is more or less so And that' s what realitis is about. But the participant itself is the format, in the survivors, in
everything it is not the person, it is the format. And that' s the sad part, because they dehumanize quite a bit. Friar' s back, look at you, the light of the drivers you were saying if you' ve talked about several ok looks like they' ve said it' s someone with c So that' s how people started to say, ah
is crowned, ingl crowned. But then they talked you go to Claudio, then they talked about Annet Kuguru. Here is Teresa telling us that there is also talk of Marco Antonio Regil, María Inés, Cristal Silva, Cintia Rodríguez, that is, if there are several rumors and then they are also saying that Ingrid is going around in group image. Then you know there' s one thing that' s given a lot in this industry. When a famous person wants to push, he goes and walks on another television station so that
his other television station will certainly be. That' s what he does. It' s an exact strategy. Ephraim, Ephraim and Jagun that I tell you one thing, I do believe that until I owe it to Marines and tell them. As an academician, I think Marine would be the one to do it the time passed by Yair, who gives no good or half a sentence, that is all bad in the twenty- year chain, that was a great disaster, that is between Yair. There they look like godmother.
Everything was going really bad and it all collapsed. Oh, but there was Alexander Axe. Like Dialexander, he' s a guy. I don' t know if you give him a list, like when I say Fernando Columbia can do whatever he wants. I know Axa Alexander Hacha is an educated person. Sima, I' m going to talk to you about something. It ' s already the last secret, because the next one is for members. Yes, I can invite them one day They invited me to that academy where
Alexander Acha was. I wasn' t invited to see I was driving you to Adal Ramón. It' s just, for everything very kind. We ' re not friends, we don' t know each other, but he was very kind. And other things, I was directing her to Di Oyu Veeres, who is charming and Cintia Rodríguez, who I like very well, who always very affectionate and good. So we were outside, outside the forum, we were some people talking, we were like three or four people talking
to the person who had invited me. And then the judges or the jurors come down. I don' t know where from. Actually, I have no idea, but they go down a little ladder and come out the first one you go out. Alexander Hacha approaches where we are. He greets me very kind, very kind hello good afternoon I am already introduced at the Oye a lot of taste. I wish, hey, how nice your chamara.
Very kind and the next one is Horacio Villalobos. So now we do, or we' re going to go near where we are and say hello to the other people and me. Not like this. This and poor Alexander Hacha felt like I was telling him. No, don' t worry. He ' s always been a pain in the ass with me. No you, no you, because this person' s rudeness I' ve known them all my life. But I mean, Alexa Alejandro, this Alexander Hacha, he was kind of not used to these flimsy things of a person who did a
rude thing of that size. But I said no, no, no, don' t even hurry This is this important person. I miss you exactly, exactly. But there' s a highly educated person, well, that ' s what academy is. Yes, in addition, he is educated as a person and is educated musically speaking also for that he could be, despite being young he could be a good director also in the academy, because he does have a huge musical education and then, and besides he is handsome,
he is good. In addition, they may or may not like it and so on, but that it is musically educated. Of course he' s been educated musically. Of course he' s a person who' s been there He hears and we' re going with this now' s lawsuit. Gloria Trevi, Gloria chev I think she already liked the lawsuits, because she already has one hundred and sixteen of those she put against her, but she
already has to collect them like your records. I think he' s stopped a lot of files there in his house and said," Oh, what a father" Today I' m going to take out this ay my ma chumel Torres, which I had sued for being bad at bothering me all the time, because chumel did. He made a very heavy joke when he said that I' m not going to repeat that I don' t want to, that I' m not going to be, I' m not going
to be. But well, and then good because after this joke by Chumbeli and Gloria has lawsuits against her, one that put this group of women that I think are headed, seems to me by Aline Hernández. But then there ' s another lawsuit they filed later and then she' s supposed to have sued her against defendant on the other hand, and she' s also sued for Aztec television. When this count was made of the ten years of the Gloria Trevi case of trevia andrade that I don' t understand why you televised
caps there you go. And that has already generated this enormous demand that has been going on for many years now. And now it turns out she' s going to sue Chumbel Torres and why is she going to sue him? Well, he' s already sued him and he' s already won this first lawsuit, which was because they' re two lawsuits, one for moral damage, which is because of the joke you said we' re not going to repeat and because it' s a strong joke, and also because he
used a song from her and stopped her. Then, having no permits, no rights or anything, she demands it for plagiarism, as well as not. So that' s the lawsuit that already, apparently has won Gloria Trevi and that will have to pay her about 500, 000 pesos of fine or damage. I don' t know what the truth is, but that' s what you' ve been assigned to pay because you did lose that lawsuit. But Chumel hasn' t even said this mouth is mine. Nothing has
been said at all. The news just came out that this lawsuit was already won by Gloria Trevi in relation to the song and that the other claim for moral damage is still pending or is continuing. Or so in that goes and then I do think Gloria Trevi, as if she liked it. I think she must have. I think there are two very important things here. One, who accompanies him, who advises him, who is next to him,
because I believe she is still an easy person to manipulate. I don' t know what you think, but it gives me that feeling that you call continues not, because besides, it is very difficult that it is otherwise. If she all of her youth and even part of her adolescence, lived under someone' s yoke it is very complicated that she is suddenly totally independent, especially if she has not had a treatment, as we have talked about here
repeatedly. Then stop leaning on a man who is a pervert and now leans on another one with whom he has formed a family that she says she feels very happy and dear, but who must in some way advise her and say for now we do have to sue, we have to do it and then look for the best, because if she is going to have expenses for the demands she is receiving against her, because maybe they also hope to get an
economic benefit to pay the demands she has on her. Don' t or notice that we did the program in broken souls can go look for Sergio Andrade ' s and generate this whole series of manipulators, because that' s it. Getting out of the yoke of a manipulator is very difficult, because until you stop being a vulnerable person, and that would have to be assessed.
If you let yourself be a vulnerable person, because it' s like people who stop drinking, but then they start smoking, but they quit smoking and then they start exercising and then they go from one dependency to another they don ' t. But so with people. Maybe you haven' t healed what
that addiction or dependency causes. Well, here I believe it. Yeah, I think Gloria' s giving a highly talented person a ride, and that ' s why she turned into a wonderful attraction, like a little jewel that of course, if you have it in your hands, that' s wonderful.
But I do think it' s already one, this is already like a swirl between lawsuits and I' m not, I don' t know, I' m not a judge or anything who might have a bad reason, but they' re already a lawsuit after another when their career should have resurfaced because of their music. And I think so and it didn' t happen I mean, I don' t think they' ve got the Loria tea I' ve been messing with. So he has what he has for
us, pure soldiers. She' s doing super well in a triumphant, but well, I don' t know what, what she thinks badly, but I feel Gloria' s watching her sue who she should sue, suing everyone she doesn' t have to sue. Not everyone who has to fight is fighting. And instead of starting to fight him, he has to fight many years ago. It' s amazing that Andrades was free, untouchable too much of my country, in which they' re not going to be a
civil suit anyway. If he does not step on that country, then nothing will happen, for he remains untouchable. We said that and she herself did not remember when we were ever talking about the series she authorized and dictated about
her life. There are times, there are scenes in which she answers that question in a very, very rare way, and all people tell me why I don' t sue this gentleman when they don' t know that it ' s not that simple, because the years that have passed, I mean, she knows that people would expect from her, they started legal proceedings against the main actor of this whole horrible event of so many years and she mentions
it. But like saying that because it is not so that yes that it says have been so many years, because hasha had also passed many years and of the girls with the many has passed at the same time and they are suing then. Yeah, you could, yeah, you could. And, well, I don' t know on what basis this issue of not wanting to denounce who really should denounce is. But, well, right now, it was chumel Torres. And it' s that music is a very protected
matter. It is a lot, very protected the issue of music and it is absolutely legal, because listen I have met people who pirate sculptures, people who the engravings of the indigenous take them by great brands of designers to print them on their designs and pay the indigenous a hundred pesos and steal the garment and then, in other words, it is a plagiarism. That' s a plagiarism. Anything is unfair. Ephraim here what Mauricio says of Silva.
No, that is if we understand the theme of the demand for the song, in fact we already support it, Gloria Yaga no, but there are demands that glory done that are already super over, that is to say, I think it is for the song that I think is more logical, because yes and it is illegitimate, absolutely legitimate. And no no, no more we talk about hand, no more we talk about music, I insist, we talk about sculpture, painting, art, crafts, indigenous or non-
indigenous, which is very plagiarism in literature. Please, all the theses, by the way, are a copyright and there is plagiarism there too. And that' s not supposed to be it. And that' s not supposed to be it. No, yes, I totally agree. Yeah, yeah, it' s everyone' s talent and it' s not right for Roben, because it' s Sue' s stealing you from a lot of governors. You don' t see they' re talking, Luis, and
this is going to be wool, which is no right of otology. But let' s be clear now that this documentary was finally released is called Quyto and the Set, which is the denunciation of some now adults who, as children or adolescents, worked at Nickelodeon and then attributed to the Channel, as all their adult misfortune. Then one of the most important, Drake Ball, who says to me, abused me too Amanda Vins, says I had a really bad time, a lot of pressure and good. That was the first
chapter and that was yesterday that is in research Discorry. I guess being in age, too, you saw because that' s where the Ire channel goes. Well, his name is Max now. But there' s one very important thing. Immediately respond Some of those who were at Nickelodeon say because I wasn' t there. I, I, I was there, but I
don' t share what they' re denouncing. And, in fact, Robb Snyber interviews him, one of those who then, when he was a teenager, worked on like dion tells him hey I want to talk to you rob and get you to clear all this up here because I' m the one who' s accusing you. I didn' t live it or see it and Robertshnyder is aware that he made jokes outside the place, he admits he treated the best bad writers. Look here he' s writing down everything
he says and he apologizes and apologizes repeatedly. It' s an interview of about 20 minutes and he apologizes repeatedly. It says no writer should be uncomfortable. I wasn' t supposed to make jokes out of the place. I apologize for my past behavior. Ask them to massac my feet. It was wrong. I started to remember my first experiences. I mean, it hurts me. I was a rookie. I didn' t know how to act.
It says what, but then it says when it comes it demands varines and I did care about it. She wanted to emancipate herself from her parents, like many teenagers who are making money. He wanted to emancipate himself and talks about an emergency call where he sent people, protected her until he knew she was in a safe place. Like saying well, he almost had to thank me. And with respect to Drake Ball, you say he did?
That he did support him? And in fact, in the interview with this former Nickelodeon, he cuts off his voice and cries and says clearly that I supported him. I mean, I knew when I heard what happened to him. I knew it because on the cover, if you look at the cover of this show, the cover of the documentary is Rob Shnyder. He' s almost the big culprit for everything. Yes, and that' s why it' s the relevance of this interview that we' ll have to see
what else the documentary presents. But to me it seems a good at least a good answer to have immediately accepted this invitation and face one side, and sometimes you can think that it is someone cynical who gives the face, because there are ways and ways of the face. But I think when someone'
s face and he admits he was wrong. As he does, he begins to do it and also puts in the foreground the other good things he thinks he has done, like the Drake case, in the case of Amanda, who exactly says it, but he also says there are things he had different. Today would make it different. And I did overdo this thing with massages, hypersexualization, sometimes kids, too. There are jokes that the joke is that there shouldn' t have been or the forgiveness that interrupts you, I
said Robbinsnder is so Ider. Thank you, Maru. Thank you very much, Maru, for the correction Danshnighder forgiveness, forgiveness, the so- dunshis nya then that he accepts this interview recognize mistakes made, apologizes, is moved, because to me it seems that he speaks very well of him, because another exit would have been not ready for any interview. I have nothing to
say. And if there is any legal action, either my lawyers will see or something or what characters like Luis de Yano have done, which is to minimize their responsibility and say no. But we were all very happy and nothing happened, and that' s very unpleasant. Also then I think that so far, this interview may have a good effect on the image of him, regardless of what else the documentary shows. And I repeat, if there is a legal action, then I would have to face it by now. I
don' t know, but the interview seemed to me. But besides, he does apologize. I mean, if he apologizes and forgives, the jokes were wrong and I know it wasn' t right bye the part, I mean, take responsibility for it and not for the other, to Ephraim you want to say something. They are mixed feelings to me, because finally, the chavitos, who are now adults, do not stop being chavitos when this whole situation happened and they do not stop being victims of it. That'
s a reality. But I still think he' s a pig and everything ' s really bad. But I understand that when a person has this purpose of amendment, he comes out and because also after I saw him I said yes, not this güey what happens to him. Now he comes, but the pastor argues they know that also one who wants, for he has already watered it. I think so, the most laudable thing is to go out with the face that came out to say yes you did it very badly.
I' d make it different. And we also talked so much about Mr Ruidayano that he says he didn' t do anything and that he laughs and his fan of what he did. And this gentleman bothered me when he came out, then I said no, why should I bother. People are wrong and very valid. This doesn' t exempt him from everything he did. Not of course not, but it' s very commendable that you come out and say yes I was wrong. I' d make it different. Exactly.
Now of course, doctor sorry is that I wanted to answer Jaime Martínez, who is setting an example that is different, that is, from what you' re telling us, that happened in Argentina and that there was an apology and that doesn' t change in reality. You are absolutely right, but here we are talking about something different and, on the other hand,
we have good. I, in my personal title, said it seems like a good attitude and, at the same time, if there is a legal action, this man will have to answer to the authorities for the actions that they applied in that case, but for the time being, accept an interview, recognize their mistakes, offer an apology, become aware with everything seen and
be there, that is to say, face up. It seems to me a good principle if in due course this, I repeat, generates some kind of legal action, because it responds and I do not say that it is enough, but it is also very important to separate magnitudes of faults or things. It' s not the same thing, jaime what you tell us about Argentina, that you look like the terrifying nandit light to me. With this another one that happened here, which is also very serious indisputably. But it
' s another order. Is it another order? And if there' s something you can answer to an authority for, then you' ll have to make this clear and see something else that I know you' re going to discuss. It' s all right, because that' s what it' s all about. Just by arguing you can get to a point. But there' s one thing. Yeah, yeah, the whole set environment, yeah, everything that was happening in there, yeah, all these heavy jokes
or all the mistakes these people have made. But there were some dads and they wanted to emancipate the teenagers, because for some reason the dads, hey, Britne Spears' dads. We' ve seen that parents aren' t so healthy. Then I was mean and the parents here weren' t that healthy either. The educational question is like a triangle. It' s dads, school and kid. Well, here we go to put dads work and kid not. And to begin with, the matter of work is already doubtful.
No, but there should be close communication here. And parents are also to blame for having endorsed, which is the same thing as the Trevia Andrade case, having left your children under the responsibility of someone who is not their father and who is not going to take care of them. How you wouldn ' t take care of yourself. That is one point, that must be taken into account and highlighted. Yeah, I was to blame for darsh Nidier
and I didn' t even hate it if everything you wanted. But there were the parents, not that they also had to have looked after the children. On the one hand, Ephraim wanted to say something is that it is
the subject. I mean, when he goes out and says and talks, this guy was gonna emancipate himself from his mom, he says, I mean, I don' t, but as for her and others and you stay thinking, okay, he did really bad, but the first means of containment of these kids were his dads and the dads were getting a really happy long, because that' s what I say, I mean, that' s what I say, I mean, yeah, Nick the Odion is really to
blame. They lent the parents and this story of dads who neglect the children, endorse them, exploit them, live from them, because a very long, very long story, and I remember that it once told us badly that surely she will deslose it better than me. But since they can' t blame their parents, the kids, or the hate because they' re finally their parents, they' re going to look for who to take care of all the courage they bring and all the rage and everything that' s wrong,
because their dads think you already. You were talking about Miley, when your dad was a little bit small, that your dad did well, he ' s making you goofy and something throwing at you that your country or more is small, because I' ve protected your internal objects, because if you don' t get nothing right now. On the other hand, there is one issue that must also be highlighted. Says Maru Ramirez, says plice watch
the entire documentary so they can watch the jokes. Yeah, no, if we' re not exempting you from your guilt, Adamsnder, we' re not eximating, we' re not being that you did well, but we understand that maybe, if there had been better supervision, it wouldn' t have happened. Not that, but that' s what you would' ve done. I was offering an apology. He' s saying we' re not exempting him from guilt in any way. On the other hand, we
must also see one thing. And this is where I think I do, that' s where I didn' t just say, that' s where I guess they might be and not agree and then they do stop to discuss what I wanted to say to them. We' re a generation of me in transition. We are a generation of learning new things, because the generation that is Ephraim as it is down, are generations that are already born with what we have learned. They agree. So, well, these kids were
in charge of people who were in transition. We have said millions of times that you will go to see the Don Draper series called Mad Men, which is a clear example of what it was like at the time. Very clear example of how that time and all the permissive that was all how things were handled. Well, that was my parents' time. It is up to me to make a generation of change, of ways to express you politically correct, of ways to act politically correct that that then, this gentleman I am
not exempting. He reiterated in no way his way of acting, but those heavy jokes were common. The people were so funny and the others laughed what funny? Now we know you don' t? Now we know you don ' t? Now? The generation of now is having fun watching their companions beat themselves and even record them. But at the time it was the same, no more than with jokes. They didn' t hit each other, but they joked and everyone else laughed and stood by the joker' s side
so he wouldn' t touch them. That was and this, sir, is a part of this transition change, or more of this transition. Yes, and the one, as you say and the one allowed, was as well accepted, because it doesn' t mean it was okay, obviously not. That is why we have also insisted that here we are constantly learning and changing behaviors that we know are not convenient today. But so it happened and I repeat the personal, if there is a legal action and something for which
this man should respond, how good and that he should do it. But yes, it seems to me a good principle that I have agreed to give an interview and acknowledge that I did something wrong, because how many people we see today that either hide like this man Andrade we were talking about, who
is very quiet and very missing. Or, how many go out cynically and brazenly to say I didn' t do anything, they were very happy, that is to say it' s already worse extras at least Luisa you' re not going to be talking about, no, that' s the truth. No, then good. That' s the point. It is that, as they say, if there is a crime to pursue, then let him pay it, for he of ellips a crime, though repenting, nothing
happens. But if it' s a good start, it was a person who is repainting this, because if we come from well aggressive, well violent generations, they didn' t have to know that that sounds wrong. I mean, nothing really happens. And I do believe that lately we have, we have become like a landmark city. No, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, and no one ever wanted me to tell the people who have the most hard work to do are the ones who need the most love. No, and sometimes it' s pretty complicated.
In the morning I saw in the interview, I said no and then I said to see Ephraim relax a chingo breathe. The gentleman had to face himself and if he hadn' t turned his face, let' s say clearly, of course, he' s hiding, because he' s hiding, then no gil doesn' t emboss what he did wrong. She' s already done it wrong, and the praiseworthy thing is to go out and
say I watered her in that sense. But to me and to Lupita, it makes a lot of noise that the boys and no one else and to your parents, that is, there was no one there to take care of their children, no one and I keep thinking about what it says to take care of your precious objects, that is, your parents and to blame all
the other golds to one another. But then, who took me there, who did not complain so that they would not run me, says woe son, no, for give him an ox not because we do not have enough Sangin ATMs, but oyer tells you here. If I may, I' d like to take what Patricio Rafael Arriagaba says. You' re right. That happens, too. Psychology says it calls rabbit' s foot as a symbol of some parents changing family life for fame and money and children becoming providers
at all levels. That happens absolutely, too. We know if these parents did that 100% or not, but that happens, too. It happens that there is work abuse, there are parents of care and it is extremely
important and societies permissive also and accomplices. Then, the important thing for a good maturity and for a good mental functioning is integration, being able to integrate everything that is happening together and nothing more to point out on one side, as Ephraim said, nor anything is that not in all to integrate and integrate harmoniously. Hey, look at that. Thus is the definition of pedagogy,
the integral and harmonious development of the potentialities of people. That' s what it' s about, but, well, yeah, it' s about making everything work out fine. But here' s one thing, and I think in what you said, maybe I' d complete it. It would be one thing for me to be aware of, too, because a lot of dads think that maybe we' re the best dads in the world. We have found the perfect formula for education and no one can come to the
claim. I' m going to tell you an anecdote that they' re not famous and that doesn' t matter, but I met a person who had little children who were a dala, a bullet and then they were like five or six years old and they destroyed everything. I' d let them loose one day. So I took it out and less loose and then I said one day he heard you could tell your kids that they can' t break the plants, that they can' t break my Christmas Eve, that
I can' t. My children would be incapable. My children are very polite. And then I told him, well, look at your little girl. She threw away your well- educated little girl, dropped her wristband and said if she sees anyone, but yes, the issue is the parents' lack of awareness. You agree to know, in this case it was a bad upbringing to the children, but in general it' s knowing but why
it' s going to be wrong. If my son wants to be an artist, then of course I take him to the set and he is developing, because he is very happy being and then I leave him there with a tutor and I am going to do my things, to spend his money.
Surely not, but you don' t do you' re not able to recognize that you too I want to see the parents of all these children who report going out to say yes, I neglected me and that' s why I was also a vulnerable victim, or I accepted conditions in which, maybe they wouldn' t let us be present on the set, because dads weren ' t allowed, they had to be alone, which should have been questioned by me and why not and why I won' t be able to be
what I know. I mean, there' s a lot that would have to be found out there, but yes, it' s a shared responsibility and the first is for the parents. That' s right and that' s right, but it' s always the same story. Not because we ' re going back to Rackennel Podcast, where everyone' s the best. She loved her very much, but they let her get tired in a way she read twenty years. No, but for starters, you let her go
with him. But it was all love. But also, it is a disguise of the truth, that is at first, in the first part of Maria rackenell the first season of Mariara that in him she insists and insists that she already married out of love, because love love is not true. If at this point in the game you keep saying it was love, you still don' t rehabilitate yourself, you still don' t heal, because you ' d have to recognize these heights, that that' s called manipulation and
that' s why you got married. But it turns out here that the parents let themselves be manipulated by the mother. She left. Anyway, I mean, when the parents come out and recognize, and that' s healing. It' s not about you fighting with your parents and that, but, because we' re all human beings, fallible, all questionable, all of us even I' m wrong. It' s not true, it ' s not true, you' re going Ephraim. That' s not like it' s coming to me like I' m bringing my scissors to
prun the family tree. But there are really two very good books. You ' ll leave your father and your mother and the psychology of Mexican, which looks like they wrote it yesterday and it' s 30 years ago. And really, I mean, socially we' re putting dads on a pedestal and not dads are wrong. The parents said and pasta has already come to light. The parents left these kids with these losers. It' s reality. Well, I do. Like this? Is that so? Is it?
I' m sorry about what the Lupita said and what you added. Indeed, the true, true way to heal such serious and painful childhood wounds must necessarily go through the truth, because if it is nested or propped up in denial, in idealization or in any fantasy that conceals reality, nothing is healed.
And then, through the truth, you can recognize what Lupita said, that parents are human beings and they are wrong to be able to forgive what has to be forgiven and rebuild love from there, not from denial, from exactly didn' t propose to spread blame without you keeping a slice of the cake. You also have exactly one but good time to say good- bye guys. Today has been a pleasure. Tomorrow we will continue to talk about other interesting topics. I want to tell you that there is, of course,
the story of Leonora Carrington open public. She is already here on the channel Leonora Carrington, a great Mexican nationalised church painter, one of the great painters, sculptors, surrealist writers. Go see women making footprints and for limbs. That' s open to the public and for members there are these children, the monstrous children of England and Robert Thompson and John ben Ables or Benable as they please, but well they can go to see those who are members.
Tomorrow will be open to all other broken souls in our fourth season of youth, young people in conflict. Thank you so much for having accompanied us, give us likes, share and tell us what you want. Thank you so much, Dr Abel. No, thank you all very much. As always a pleasure to dialogue and talk and receive your comments, your opinions here always with everyone peace, please, everything you want, share it, but do not get angry and if you feel that you will be angry, you
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