Or Saturday we' re on radio in anaphobia. We' re recording from Las Vegas airport for the Screeners, for I Podcast, for Spotify, for Amazon Music. Me, as a radio announcer, he' s very fond. Welcome. Be all your subjects. Welcome, all of you. I can' t see who' s connected here if there are already some YouTube channel members connected, but if they' re already connected, be welcome.
This program is ahead so we won' t stop being. Today, it ' s Tuesday, Tuesday, May 14th, we' re at Las Vegas Airport, we' re going back, but during the program we' re going to be flying. Or if not flying, then arriving is going to be very difficult to transmit later. But so they don' t say that they did go on vacation. We' re here. We' re already here with topics, with good themes, Doctor Amail, yes, look for
a Tuesday, as well as you don' t want the thing. It turns out that there was some information already early on that we are doing this program today and I find it very interesting. Two notes in particular, because maybe we didn' t expect, at least not so soon and one that makes me very happy ok ok Hey. I want to know if they' re seeing us that if they' re seeing us, let me know somehow,
somehow, Jessica, we already have thanks for being here. You' re a member of the Canal. So I already got your message, so I know we' re transmitting live from Las Vegas airport in a little while. We' re going to go for breakfast, listen, so let' s start with which one. I think we' re leaving the fort in the end, too, and you' re going to surcrodownson Avy. We
can start with the nice note, exactly with downson By. Hey, we ' ve seen that a hundred years of Netflix loneliness have already been released. A trailer was released, the trailer to OK, but it still premiered us to the series. I had seen that they were going to premiere the show. Efrain' s here, he' s here in fra Bab and hi, fra Baby. How welcome you are, how are you girls, how nice to see you. All right, all right. Thank you. Here ' s Efra Baby ready. We' ve already seen the issues that are
what we' ve already planned. We are for members Right now broadcasting live and soon we will open it already for all the subscribers of the channel was going for all the general public, of course. But how is a special mistime transmission, because we' re going to use this Downson Abby thing that has our PhD, because we' re already commenting on the hundred trailer there ' s loneliness. I think Netflix is venturing into doing different, new,
different, and good things, Downson Abbing. I don' t think it ' s a masterpiece in terms of literature, but yes, hi is a very good series that already wears which doctor, because it did six seasons and yes. As for history, it does not have much, although yes, obviously, it is related in the passing of the years of this family,
the Croley family, as war conflicts. In the first chapters, for example, it is said that they lose a relative when the Titanic, the so - called unsinkable in its time, is sinking, then it relates questions of history, but above all, because a lot of romantic question and the portrait of a lifestyle that at that time would be perceived as idyllic and a very
friendly relationship between the people of the service, who were a multitude. Taking care of these proley family members who come down well, who are a whole county, is not a count with their children, with his wife, with
all the family conflicts, but something that turned out to be charming. I think of this series, in addition to the visual part, because it is the theme of the wardrobe, these blind shovel houses, the castles themselves and so on, because also the relationship that they showed us between what they called the ones below and the ones above, the ones below, because it is the service staff, because as they lived on the lower floors of these great
mansions and those above, they were the bosses. Then it lasted six seasons, had a tremendous success, so that they later made two films. It seems to me that one in the two thousand twenty and one in the two thousand twenty- two. And now, there comes a third film that for the lovers of the series, among which I do tell myself because the truth to me I tell the visual question and others seems very attractive to me.
I look forward to it, but I wanted to talk to you, if I may, lupita, about this book that is never called in front of the servants. There you can see it or we' ll put it in. There' s this book written many years ago by Frank Victor two and
he' s a descendant of a service person. He writes it before this series of Downson Abby happens, but when there was another series called dounst Obsters Dounsters, which is very similar, and because this book demythizes is its idyllic we see in Downton Abb, because it says that in reality that relationship so beautiful, so understanding between employers and employees, because it was not such that there was a question of exploitation, that there were very marked differences, which
even says there in the movies or in the series, as later would be Downton HB. And I' m telling you, they don' t coincide time with this book, but it' s been said that they know their names, their problems. The Count asks the Maiden what has happened to his son, the one who wanted to enter school, He has already succeeded. If you don' t tell me to shake hands with him, and then this book says those things never happened. You don' t know what to
do. I think the names were known to see fraud I saw if you ' ve seen something like that, too, you know where. I think they did portray that a little bit more realistically. In the series of Spanish eras it seems to me there was a novel called Acacias thirty- eight, which ended in Pandemia, but already had more than a thousand seven hundred chapters. Trenta a beastly soap opera and I was fascinated to see it. I
really loved it. But there was much more evidence of the difference truth, because it wasn' t this one, I mean, they treated them badly and it was with you novel, but it was a little bit clearer. The difference of classes in those Spanish series seems to me, but this new version is going to be interesting. Well, this new Onton Nabey movie, yeah, yeah, nothing more than there would be. Don' t think
they loved each other very much. So much mutual to me and that is clear because because no yes, it was a relationship of great inequality and I just saw one and I can not remember that there is a recent new ah clear to me, I don' t remember, no, I don' t remember, but well, I don' t know if it was something like that. Well, I' ll remember. But this new Downton Abby project sounds interesting. And then we go on with the other note, which
was Marthames and Frank' s that already appeared. You remember that we had commented that they had interviewed the real marta for a newspaper without giving the name because, because of her privacy and she had complained that I don' t want to be famous, because she already turned the tortilla, the tansiona piona
hardy and now she already appeared, already appeared that where she appeared. I interview with who, with Peter s Morgan, Peters Morgan, who has a very important heh in England, but he' s already come out live with his real name and how about wearing her from Ran But remember that I told you that I' m not this visionary Martinez. I am, but I did the tout efrain and I told them he' s going out and he ' s going to want to do his version, he was going to arm
himself. It came out exactly. Well, the woman was happy with life. I never say this they' re going to make me up, they ' re going to comb me and it' s already famous. She' s already famous. I saw it be low body and I said what a terror where we came from. I don' t know what the author of the whole show is thinking and everything that had happened I threw him out. This stalker is a sick mind. I' m flattered here Tell us better It' s limitless. I saw in the interview and say I the woman
is really upset. Eh, that' s too bad. She' s going through, she' ll be another life. This is the marten, this is the brand of the series, this is true to that of real life. There it is, like that Frank posing. It' s not that daring the whole interview let' s say, but her body language I say I' m not a mari present, not to tell them as it is, but her body reading is hers. I' m here to invest.
I want to be heard half the nerves don' t get angry, which is that I can find it hard to see crazy fool in the world. I lose the whole word, but it' s not about the world. Of course, of course, of course we were just talking about it today, right, we were talking about it that behind a counter you don ' t know the story of that person and maybe sad is very nice, very nice, a wonderful thing from behind, a dark story or vice versa.
Maybe you think that the person who scares you, who brings, who brings more tattoos or who comes in worse dress, has not bathed and, perhaps is a beautiful person. We' re one, we all have a hidden side, you don' t want it, it' s dark or bad, but hidden. They' re secretly serious, but she' s pretty. I think he' s gonna end up writing a book doing something about me. This is going to be something with history. He' s going to capitalize on it, because it was the office. Not the interview.
We' re starting, but he' s going to tell you what scares me. Human beings are so chubby, but I' m sorry. I' m sorry. I' m going to say it in my personal
capacity. I would like to be told the story of her vision. How upset she can be, how much she can change reality, because it' s very interesting to see what a person who' s wrong with her four is outside notice that I do. What I see in this particular interview is a classic feature of certain psychopathic aspects in people, which is the ease with which they can go from one place to another in their speech to give it
a seemingly rational tone. They use concepts that they don' t even know how to use well, but according to them they don' t handle them under a certain line and immediately change from the other side, contradicting themselves with the hand of the waist. Then it' s what she does when she says no. I didn' t watch the show. Something has been told to me and that' s why I decided to leave, because I disagree that my person is used and then contradicts when he says no. It'
s just that the scene just didn' t happen. That wasn' t because she was seeing him. What strikes me is that this woman speaking there is very similar to the character we see in the series, that is, this man writer and protagonist both real as in the Netflix story of this event described it. I think that' s very good, because it' s identical to the way we talk. As you say, the body language, the tone of voice is equal, no, and the arguments to me are
portraying me in an unfair way. The one who' s in trouble is him. He' s a very disturbed person. That' s called it. I' ve talked about it many times here, projective identification, classic defense mechanism that when used massively or very, very strongly to put to the other what is yours, because it does speak of a certain or possible degree of pathology. Then it draws attention, because she, in this interview, confirms a lot of what we saw in the series Hey, but also the
interviewer tells her clearly. That is to say, those are the good interviewers, or because then they are purer. It looks good, but no, yes, yes, here she does ask questions, no. No, if every dresser is not without attacking, that is not attacking, not the shore, not the corral, simply, because he asks the questions he has to ask her. And now and she' s the soloist, because she' s the one who, as you say, I mean, yeah, well, you get angry and everything, but you are totally, totally. That
' s life. It hurts us when they tell us what we are, when they tell us what we are not, we don' t care. But when they throw it at our weak spot. But this woman will have some treatment. I' m supposed to. No, because it is supposed that, at least in what the series showed, there was also an indication there for her to attend, besides that she had to get away from this man was in prison and so on. Yeah, he had an instruction to
take care of himself. But the problem of health systems has been discussed here many times, not always. Maybe they' re all as efficient as they should be. We' ve talked about these famous anger control courses here They ' re going to last a little while and you' ve done it. You go to God, then, because we don' t know how much and we also don' t know how good or bad the prognosis is,
because, because there are cases of bad prognosis. To me, what gives me terrors I saw the interview and said if I didn' t know that this woman is wrong, I could even love me well and if you put to her, but when you pay attention to her and see her, because it doesn' t dilute and everything is lost, because if you realize that you contradict yourself if you realize it' s wrong, because I don' t know what I mean, I think I wouldn' t believe the truth. I think I' d be sorry, but I wouldn' t believe
your kindness. Yeah, no, no, no, but they' re very seductive. Oh, right,' cause I' ve put you on tell me and if I don' t go to such a bad person. He hears and speaks of powerful seducers who are able to pull other people and others, because fetus power is over prietus power. This program I warn you and thank you for signing up, the Canal, thanks for giving us like, for sharing, for being here with us on the different platforms. It
' s recorded, but live. We' re doing it live for members, in a little while, we open it for the public and see what you think. I know that this is a subject that, at least, because many people confronted me, became angry and insulted. They told me this is a movement that I always thought was a manipulation, a fallacy. I thought he was a liar, because he wasn' t meant to be.
They said yes, with a desire to improve the conditions for Mexicans who already because of the simple fact of self- named prisoners is a way to hurt themselves and that the dark ones do not care to be dark, but they
do care. Then I always considered that this movement was a matter of manipulation created by the government to manipulate masses and further divide what was intended to divide the country between Güeros and non- Hueros, between fifis non- fifis, between neoliberals and fourte and prietos and whites So they put out a very extensive communiqué, but better in some parts says power prieto closed its work this year and although we know that the mission is not fulfilled and that much remains to
be done, we also recognize that, as a collective we can no longer continue our struggle and our voices must unite from the individual trench to the rest of the struggles. We must reintegrate into a larger collective that of all Mexicans.
Here, it is truly absurd. They can never add up because they leave in the middle of scandals of night orchard of harassment of women, of having used this layer of an indigenous woman denounced by light Waldés, a good activist, a promoter of Mexican culture and crafts, of the most important that I know the girl Bellísima who has done a lot and says they used this
one for a presentation. This man I don' t know which movie or a psi that parade or presentation of something and didn' t give him credit. And if they quickly try to correct it. They were going to look for the lady to the craftswoman and they already give her credit, but the cape had already been altered. They leave, in the midst of these things, these scandals that contradict the struggle very much those that they have manifested.
Another thing they did was that, as soon as you had an opinion contrary to what they were saying or you didn' t blindly stick to their movement or you didn' t tell them they were right in absolutely everything they did. You were insulted. Vitus Verago canceled by them. They were talking about a power of blondes getting in. They do have all the privileges and Mr ten Fuertas took photos in Palacio Nacional watching a football match, because that is
a great privilege that not all Mexicans of any color count. Not then it says here they talk about this, about this matter, about the mess. Here comes, for example, the subject of manipulation. The miscegenation made us believe that we were all the same and here is manipulation. Neoliberalism lied to us with that of wealth distributed equitably and meritocracy. He told us that people
have what they deserve based on their homos effort. Today we remember again that it is not so and we do not understand how if this tenoch that was the head. He had arrived in Hollywood and others said there were no opportunities for him. She talks about villains, white women, rich, envious, lacking. Anyway, I' m talking about stereotypes created by television, which do exist, but they' re not, they' re not. Yes, it' s true that she was manipulated by Mexican society. Yes,
it is true that stereotypes were created, but this matter. And it is true that there is discrimination, of course that is undeniable. There is discrimination, there is discrimination in the media, in the dens, in the places, it is true. But this movement was made to manipulate, not to
combat such discrimination. Anyway, this is the racist, classist and patriarchal narratives of the series, the cinema, the theatre, in the cultural industry, but above all, those of the two television stations that have been set up have told us the story that the preetos are not worthy to look at each other, because the s because I look at him there I differ because you televisiond that this way dark people have been involved and quite a lot of people
have given themselves a chance to die, but it doesn' t seem like a legitimate movement. Anyway, I don' t know anymore I' m shutting up and you guys are still brotherly, sorry, look. Here comes the example of what I was talking about the other day of taking up the word, a word that was violent and reconquering it to change the meaning.
And I want to start with you reviewing the anthropological meaning of the word" fucking" The word chingón comes from the fact that when a Spaniard abused indigenous domi, he told him that you fucked yourself and from there a chingada came out was that he was humble, but that child had to reconquer the word in order to succeed, because he was not going to have a dad and we returned him to a chingón. Word was transformed and now we' re fucking, all Mexicans. Okay, that' s what I was talking about.
Jotto going back to the word so that something that hurt you so much becomes something positive. So people are serious and I' m very angry at the serious, priet activists who said we' re going to take this word back to recapture the word that' s hurt us, that there are people from the folkloric super dance school, real people, indigenous people, gentese for the natives who said let' s do this, they did it from that place and they said let' s go back to the word priet. And
so they say. And it' s really weird and it' s really good and it' s what they want. Then this guy comes out, no, Mr Tenoch, and he climbs into a fight to upset her, politicize her, and denoise her. And that' s what we have to start pointing out and denouncing for what reason. Maybe, yes, he' s dark, he' s preeto, yes, everything he wants, but he has a life narrative totally different from what indigenous peoples and what he says he defends. He lives every day, that is, he takes pictures with
his expensive boots from Paris. He sees the face of the indigenous people when he buys them a layer in three pesos, the appraisal because in addition to intervening a very bad invintual and analgestal, that is, he does everything wrong. They accuse him of harassing women, of having a very macho life format and so on. The thing is that this wouldn' t call him priet power, I' d call him tenoche what you wanted to do the power and when you had the power, I' m going to say a rude
girl' s forgiveness. For example, it' s a topic My dad was indigenous and I really resent this from that place and I' m going to put up pictures of my dad to see what I' m doing here you didn' t care about the power, prietus you wanted the power and when you had the power, you were worth the soul of the projects last night, because you never cared. You got on an activist train, as many activists do to have a voice and threw it out for revenge, not
like de. And the theme is lutism. I mean, I read about violence against women, these villainic women, that is, gender violence How is it that you' re an activist man who' s fighting against the rights of a minority and you' re going to rape women? Who are the women and you call sign them to me, that is why exactly the women,
and there you go against certain actors of the population. But everything is diffuse and the issue is that when you are going to confront them and I tell them that I am starting from a minority and very small, because those of us who are no one are like that, we are very little. I tell you every June I go against the smug ones and I go straight away because you don' t remember me the twelve pesos of the year, because only this one is at night, you did it very badly and the
truth is going to tell you one thing. This is what you already saw coming and what good? That' s good, but what we do have to do is people who are there communicating is realize and point out that they ' re not leaving because they' re restricting their freedom. And that goes away because he has pity, he leaves because he knows that he did very bad and he leaves because the power is already clear since he does not and because that is not excellent. What you just said seems very clever to me.
And, moreover, it was indeed a movement that never fulfilled what it sought. There is discrimination, I insist, it does exist, but the movement did nothing to prevent it. On the contrary, they decried others in turn, yes to me, which I would like to add to everything that you have said, that I totally agree and when Ephraim said a moment ago also that all this becomes diffuse. I agree that the movement became diffuse,
but also this statement that says and then this ends. It is also because it is long, long, because it puts many ideas, apparently in an order, but, from my point of view, many of them unrelated, as for this purpose of using that one word, another word that attracts attention concepts that if we analyzed them which would be quite exhaustive, but if we
analyzed them semantically they even contradict each other. But I am struck by a couple of things, nothing more like closing my own to what you have already said would be first of all. When he says the target, it wasn ' t met. We know. I would like to know what the specific objective was? The specific objective? The complaint is clear to me why they have done what was the goal we want, I have no idea, but we want out of every ten Mexican productions five to be interpreted by such people
that we say represent this prietus power. We want them to win. I do not know what it will be, what was the specific objective that was not achieved and why you say that you will abandon something whose objective was not achieved, but that, from the individual point of view, they will now do so. If in ball it was not possible why individuals. I mean, it' s not clear to me what we' re talking about.
Frankly, and the other thing that really caught my attention is when it says that the rise of the mass media and the privatization of Mexican television, which should always have been public. I don' t understand why they fill up. I also do not understand what that has to do with discrimination itself. Perhaps concessionary television could have had certain requirements on the part of the State and should meet them, but why should television be necessarily spent. We' re
not in England. England is, England is, but it' s handled differently. Productions are huge and big, but what discrimination has to do with it, like TV being private. And that' s what I' m talking about, these unrelated concepts, that sound like rumblings, that sound like revolutionaries to impress, but that' s manipulation, that' s manipulation, that' s taking a band, that' s how rude it is to take a flag as delicate and painful as discrimination made against people of a particular
color or of a particular origin. It is as insulting to take that flag for other purposes, such as beating private television, the media, soap operas. Beating that way is absurd, it' s how immoral a point is. It' s immoral because, besides, you don' t even get it, I mean, you don' t even get that film because you ' re not looking for us. Or what you' re looking for is
a privilege not you. It' s not that you want to end discrimination, it' s that you want those privileges that others have and it' s not wrong to love them, of course, but what' s not right is that in trees a banner of justice when it' s not true and that' s why? Yeah? I say this already And that' s why this fragment is also so irritating when it says that mestizoje I don ' t know what, but that neoliberalism lied to us in this part,
that it says meritocracy. He told us that people have what they deserve based on their effort. And today he reconfirms or he says, we remember again that that is not so. I can no longer disagree with that, because while it is true that the distribution of wealth, of course, is neither ideal nor far away that injustice exists, it is also true that the culture of effort also has its own why it has its meaning, because, otherwise, let us all go to bed, let us go to do nothing,
because nothing is going to happen anyway. And that' s not true. That' s a lousy message for a little boy who' s studying, that his parents give you from their chances of going to a school, and that they tell me what I' m trying to do, what I' m trying to do better, based on effort. If it' s of no use or I' m going to demand nothing else because I feel that they owe me or I don' t know, I don' t know what argument. I find it very sad also to hold such a thing and
I can' t agree less with that part. I already fail I do remember a bit and a little disagree. I can tell you because there are indigenous communities where if, as much as the child wants to do if the textbook is not even in their language, we are clear and it is the reality of our country. Not that if it happens the issue is at night in his personal narrative, it is not in that context and he doesn' t care about those indigenous people who don' t speak Spanish. That is
the problem, that is, the culture of effort. Yes, there is, in the middle class, in cities characters like me, that this comes with the public. They do exist, but there are communities where there can be no real good. We have to do something. We' re all gonna show up, we' re gonna come one day It' s sure to happen. The theme is that characters like this individual get up and up in communities that are already very attacked and abandoned perversely to be heard and,
from that place, have such a pathetic speech. That' s a problem. Because I' m going to tell you one thing. Taylor Soffa in her hil art song made a very nice phrase. He disguises my narcissism of altruism. And that' s wrong because I' m late for privileges. It' s not bad when my salesman comes out and says no. And I, I got out of Liams and now I' m on YouTube and I win and I put on my sweater of so many thousands of pesos. It' s okay. It' s okay to want to have the privileges.
What' s wrong is jumping at the people you' re supposed to be defending to have the privileges. That' s what' s wrong because we don' t forget what you gave Luis Valdés, we didn' t solve what happened to all the activists you harassed. That' s what' s wrong. I mean, you know exactly what he explained down here,
and that' s what' s wrong. That is to go around the world taking pictures with all the people Sorry for the word, because they could tell you with all the people that you call white, taking pictures you had your instagram and at the same time kicking. I don' t understand you, Baby, but not here. I' d actually have to mean it. Yes, it was a ducky organization to increase movements much more important than
that of seeking mothers. Without a doubt, it was much more unfair that they were not received, that a massacre should be politicized than that of a man, for example, that they were not received. It was terribly unfair for the trans community to be used to receive it with crimogen gases in the
socket. However, it was serious and that did exist movements have something legitimate as good, the same feminist movements, of the women' s marches, which were also not received, that they were forbidden entry to the socket or that were somehow provoked. And this movement was a movement of mere display, of power. I mean, they never marched, we never saw them do, nothing real, there never was a real movement and the object dried up.
Why it doesn' t work, because it was founded on a lie, on a fallacy, in a moment, on a kiss, at the hands of the Efrain turn and I told them my dad was indigenous or by the original, as you want to say and I' m going to tell
you one thing. There are intelligent and very important movements of these issues of native peoples, but not as a tenocho, I mean the issue is that, because this is this kind of intelligent organizations and serious people confronting the rematch as with what made it roche, which was like tantrum, that is, ay, I, I want, I want, I want, and the issue is that. I' m gonna say a word I hate to say. Well, now, they' re going, girls, not shores.
The feeling is coming wrong, because if the wealth is badly divided and I what I will win in Ojamon with the rich already I am already It was not, I mean, it is learned. Finally, in the end, well, we' re about to finish this program because we' re already going to take a flight. But that' s the conclusion. I think it' s one. I think we got to the same thing. The thirteen, I mean, we can make some difference or not, but deep down, I think we believe the same thing and you think, say your
comments. It is very valid without insults in a discussion, in a series. No more than that, when I have touched on this subject, make clear what I take with me, but in a tone of argumentation. Of course, we' re going to talk about it and here we expect you to write us whatever you want. You fired Dr Amel, so that' s an argument. Remember ideas, ideas, and not judgments or qualifiers for people. And I hope then that this may lead to movements, perhaps more
serious ones. Not that what ended up being this issue, because I tell you I still have the doubt when it says the objective was not met, but we will continue to fight for it individually and it is not clear to me what the concrete and specific objective was. Not this diffuse as good to Ephraim. Thank you very much and see you soon, Ephraim, I love you if you say things to us again, say the choirs with the beautiful moments. Nice express. It' s good to differ. We don'
t have to think the same way, but remember about dealings. That may differ and always with all peace. Or I don' t have hearts. We' re not gonna have hearts here anymore. Yeah, yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh. Yeah, she doesn' t have any pussy, you don' oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, t have one. Simpson Bar, if you' re not happy today, I didn' t mean to tell you, but I' m not a real person. Reptilian sandals, tell us, it' s not us anymore.
Well, thank you so much for being here. Yeah, it' s already scheduled for members can come to see today and women' s cross friends. Ephraim is tere' s birthday today has a huge hug, a huge kiss. Thank you. I was just agreeing that we' re in limbs. Now, I' m sorry and it' s happening to me, because we' re at the airport, but of course you have a big hug, a kiss. Thank you for always being here. Also happy and we love you congratulations, three huge thanks and well don' t go.
Women of Juan Me de Hoya, it is already ready, you can go to see him. Right now, for me then and soon. We already opened it, for the general public, see you later, everyone. And thank you for listening to us, for seeing us, for sharing and leaving us your opinions always, always precious,