We are already here welcome, this Friday in peace, welcome, Dr Amel Hello, how good night pita, how you are, how you are. Everybody. Thank you so much for joining us on this evening weekend chair, weekend night and review and comment, because the last two chapters of the Stanley pay series came out. Let' s discuss the breakdowns. What we saw I' ve already documented. I was watching interviews that you recommended here in the love chat and hear are left instead of solving, as there are more
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Arel and I saw you, thank you, thank you, comment, talk and you' ve seen the last two chapters and you' ve seen the six. If you haven' t seen anything, well, here we are telling you what this series is about or what this series was that is presented six months after Bigs' documentary and that has generated a lot of comments thank you I mean on YouTube and everyone who is on Podcast, thank you for
being here. But interesting everything that has been tied up because those involved have also given interviews, since before its premiere it had not already generated noise because they release this trailer. The trailer, because you see something scandalous not and then immediately, because it attracts a lot of attention, that I think because it is part of the strategy always advertising of a trailer not to catch and
generate a lot of curiosity. But in addition, it makes us go and find many of this other material, as you say, starting with the previous documentary up to the interviews that each of them has given over time, many recent and others years before. Yeah, there' s one thing that draws attention. Those involved said it' s one thing I don' t want to revive, but they went to give interviews. Yes, they participated in Biggs' documentary and also in Vics' documentary, which is this one we
have, this is Vix' s documentary. There they participated, many gave their opinion, gave their testimony and then I no longer want to relive this, but they went and thought about who killed him. And then it' s me I' m gonna sue and I' m gonna but wow. They got involved again and gave interviews in the media and on YouTube and so on, something that is very interesting and right now they were writing it to
me in the chat and I saw it too. Adn forty well, one of the YouTube pages, one of Aztec' s YouTube channels, uploaded to the last program, the program of June 7, nine hundred ninety- nine, which has been so controversial that it did get the message of I don ' t know who on the day of that program didn' t get that message no. I saw it all. Look, I' m gonna go to the bald spot and the lectra ad and the good one. I' m going to introduce you to something. I' m going to introduce you
to something that caught my attention when I was watching that show. I can ' t present it completely. It' s just a little piece. But we go like this when the capi comes, in the interview of Mario Besares, in the documentary, in the testimonials that he the police, he says good and we see it in this program number seven that he arrives with his foot broken and still speaks of the doctor who attended him and tells him mandan
is an opaque greeting, because he is the doctor full. And then Paco makes jokes about already paying the doctor and they don' t play with it. Then the sea brings this broken foot and then, because the little toe is already broken. Not when what happens, the attack Well, the execution of Mr Paco Stanley Mario Besares walks crutches and says I had to have a space, because because of the crutches, I have to walk on crutches.
However, observe this little pedacite and Everything does it on that foot. He does everything on that foot. Everything does Mario Besares dances around, turns on the foot that is supposed to be broken. There is supported totais tante to make like this kick move with healthy foot, while the injured foot is totally holding the exact body and then the need to use crutches is not credible. When you did a whole show, yes, when you came and came out,
it' s getting like a noise of forgiveness. When you came, you went out, you walked in, you climbed up, you lowered the whole forum without it. However, to make, to be in frog pool, if you have crutches and if you have to go slower, it is the most. An observation and good. Chapter five six I liked, the five, the six, the truth is that I was looking at it and I was saying what an implausible thing and right now, I' m going
to tell you why. But let' s start looking at the chapter in chapter five, six, the five I think that in which many of us had been waiting, which is Paola' s during which I think is the most innocent of this whole case, is the one that was no longer happening. I don' t hear my fingers anymore. Looks like a couple Prince Charles already took my nails off, but, well, I' d love
to be royalty. So we have the same fingers, but, Paola seems to me the most innocent of this whole case, she was no longer there and there was already an huaera And then, because that huaera had to be an huaera pe Ahorita, we' re going to talk it here too. And Paola, during that time go into this casting there. This is how Paola' s chapter begins between this casting is with Paco and Mario. She
says she' s Uruguayan. They tell her she doesn' t have any accent, that she' s a model who makes fun of Khan Medio here in the series, because they say Mario Half mocks her. She has this nervous laugh that we' ve told her about her YouTube show, YouTube program, which has a nervous laugh. Well, here he drinks being that they know her very well. Then they ask him to return from this famous return that is so terrible, not return, because they already tell him that he
smiles. She doesn' t want to smile through her teeth and eventually gets mad at them, but they give her the job. They end up giving him the job and then that' s how Paula' s chapter begins. Later Paola is seen in the prison and she' s going to tell her story to a journalist. Remember that the narrative resource of this series is to tell you and your version of the story to a third party. This third is obviously fictitious. But in someone you have to recharge. Benito did it
with a Brenda waiter, he did it with a television journalist. She does it with another reporter. But those are fictional characters and it' s very clear because that doesn' t even have to be denied. Anyone who knows, as is the narrative structure, because he understands perfectly that it is a resource. So, well, she' s already sitting. He has spent more than a year in prison and the fictional character is called Sergio García should not be having a name, but good has it. He' s a
journalist who' s interviewing him. And then Paola speaks the character Paul talks about the messages he received from enel viper no yes and that he ignored.
He talks about how demanding Mario was. He says that Paco would be there and see him as a dad and that Mario is the one who wouldn' t let him do it and that Paco would, that Paco would give him more freedom, not here, like this is confirmed a little bit by what Paola said during his YouTube channel, of this good image that he already has about Paco totally yes, yes, yes, yes, he or he manage very without n to what she has told us that he did do what we
said yesterday, I say that he threw the hook to see if he caught it. It was somewhat insistent, but it did not push much less in terms of work. We' re not going to take your job away, we' re going to leave your job if you go or don' t go to the famous cafe, but it was just some kind of insistence.
You step on it there when that chapter of Paula starts. Yeah, I get a little bit of the criticism that was made of Belinda, because it makes the impression that as if she was overreacted as if she were to me, I kind of did the same thing. That' s why, when we were talking about movies, he does one or two musical group shows, I was saying that I wish you would do the Beatles better than Queen' s, because I didn' t like the personification of Fredy Mercury, because
I felt it a little excessive. But it' s because you' re thinking. It is difficult to reproduce faithfully to someone who has such particular characteristics. At that time, Paula, in addition to bringing orthodoxia, had this condition that she says of the chin. So, she on her channel, she says oh it' s that I wasn' t even like that, because there they do it as if she had her chin projected forward she hadn ' t gone out and when I had it upside down, she says what
she had was stuck in. But I say how you do that. No. I know there are prostheses. Yes, yes, yes, it would be very difficult, but I didn' t like Linda' s tone of voice eh Andale. So, between that and but what they want, I think I mean well, she had something no matter if it was forward, back. She had something that made her speech a little or quite difficult and everything. But truth, at first, besides the tone, the rhythm, how he talks like slow, I don' t know how they marked it,
because I don' t think she' s doing it wrong. In fact, when they' re already in jail right now, you' re gonna keep talking to us. I see it much better. There he is, but at first he speaks very badly. He speaks because he is neither Mexican, nor Uruguayan, nor anything. It is like but more with a more neighborhood tone, which is not that it is better simply paola during its
Uruguaya. Then she couldn' t have a Mexican neighborhood accent, because she isn' t born in Mexico City, like every region of the country, because we have a good accent. It was very difficult for Brenda to have it. I' m saying Paola did during her time. Well, you can see Paola' s leaving a joint because she' s already got her job. They make her look like the head of Cannes, Paula says she denied it. I said I wasn' t the boss of Canes and they
' re already getting ready. After the show Paola' s viper sounds, he is warned of the murder of Paco and then she confesses that she did feel sad. This is the character. We' re not talking about Paula, although what Paula said is very much in line with what this doesn' t say then that she felt sad. Live one thing is like this.
Yeah, it' s like a little sting from the show, because the character who plays Belinda, who is Paola, is supposed to say well, I got sad, because I ran out of work, which is frivolous? I mean, which is frivolous, no, but, well, Paula will
clear it up on her YouTube channel. Baola looks like she lives with the parents, has her daughter, is going to be a casting for a soap opera and when she leaves this casting it is when the police stop her and then they make her declare her She meets Paola, with the lord of the Villares. We haven' t seen much. Well, it' s not product. He is the attorney Villanueva, who would be the attorney of the Billiard of nine hundred and ninety- nine in the Government of Guauhtemoc Cárdenas,
in Mexico City. So the Villar tells her what color your eyes are, because green you don' t have blues, not greens. That' s why they fight the gass that here show that the prosecutor wanted her to fit in, that she fit in and tells him because there' s a man named Luis Gabriel Valencia, the flame, that obviously is also a changed man,
who is the cook of the Amezcua. And then he says that, because you' re his accomplice and that they saw you come in when you came with him and that you conspired and that you were also Mario' s lover. So Paula' s character says hey, that' s a lie, that can' t be and then the prosecutor Villanueva accuses him that he would be the billiard solicitor accuses her of complicity. That' s when mel comes out who knows Sara aldret Ay. Yeah, that' s very impressive,
because you remember. We had commented that in his interview with Adela Micha Paola original, Paola said that she had met Sar Aldreti that San Andrés had protected you life and sheltered her during the time she was in prison. And that scene appears in this show exactly comes out Sara Aldrete and then she' s already organized to watch here. It should be clarified that one of the things that denotes intelligence or a form of intelligence in a person is the ability
to adapt. And Paolo Arante had it. She had that ability to adapt and survive here, well, and she didn' t want her daughter to be taken to. Finally, in the series, who defends Paula during her cousin is what the series says. That' s what the series says, well, then the cousin goes and says no, because this is extremely complicated. The truth, well, letters to Paula are beginning to arrive because she became famous and then she tells the reporter after that Paco was very demanding,
that he was very professional. In the end, the cousin ends up taking the daughter because she wanted the daughter to believe she was in the hospital. But, well, finally the daughter is going to visit her and then they tell Paola that the witnesses are identifying her. But here comes an interesting part that, of course, is also a resource. I guess it' s a literary resource. The cousin gets an anonymous call from a reporter who emphasizes
this report and looks back at it so I can write it down. Well, the reporter tells him to come to such a place I' m going to give you some information and tell him I' m a reporter for a left- wing newspaper and this left- wing newspaper isn' t going to publish the information I have. Remember, the Head of Government was a left
- wing cárdenas quautemoc. So she says I work for a left newspaper and this left- wing newspaper is not going to publish what I' m going to tell you, but I' m going to tell you and then she says here there' s a plot to put you in jail. Says me. At first I thought this was a TV war, a laundry lawsuit, he says, but it' s an extremely important case for the government and then he tells her that they used it to attack the TV sets they'
ve been using. They' re using Paula, according to the reporter, they' re using Paola to attack TV sets that are attacking the government. So exactly, because Cardenas was the rooster for the presidency and then he says
this is a very dangerous crime for power. I mean here. This part is very important, because that' s when they actually start saying the series, it starts to say how the real reason Paco dies and all the forces around it is, in my opinion, as I see it, and that it already becomes a matter of state materially and that' s why she' s going to be a scapegoat, that she' s not going to be able to, that she' s not going to be able to save herself,
because all a power is around this version. Let' s say exactly. They needed to solve this crime and, on the other hand, the televisions had them on them. They don' t finally hit him. It ' s supposed to be the testimony of the cook of the Amezcua. Valencia says he saw Paola visiting the brothers to Mezcua, to whom Paco owed them money This is what the witnesses are supposed to say and that' s when they agree on this that had already been said. There' s also an
audio, a cassette. They mention that there is an audio cassette that came to the newspaper where they say where a prisoner talks to the police and the prisoner. She talks about an old cane that was called in the series Rosaura Vidal and that she was with Loana and that she was a girlfriend to one of the inmates and so on. Not here how interesting it is here at
the point. This is the central point. I think about the chapter, because this is where Paola gets mixed up during this blonde who mentions the witness. Yeah, because besides, in chapter four you' ll remember that in the end that comes out as if they' re changing one ooze for another. Not that they' re warning you that that' s going to be the movement where they' re going to involve an innocent person because of the simple fact that he was an outsider. Maybe, but then they do that,
they swap one ooze for another. And now it' s the hypothesis that holds throughout Paola' s entire chapter, which is not me. It ' s that Rosaura, that other Rosaura, and then she' s supposed to be a Paco operator. I owed a lot of pounds of I don ' t know what substance. So Rosaura was an operator of this one. Mr Carrillo and they say it' s not that you' re not canned, but he says the joke is that with you and Paula during we' re forming the figure we need to accuse. We don' t need this
person. And then that' s what you just said. And I also mentioned in this chapter that this Rubia woman disappears just on June 7, 1990 and that she went to Colombia that she disappeared and no one ever spoke to her again. And they don' t want to go after her. So he says that oddly the reporter tells him they don' t want to go after her because they' re probably protecting someone. It should be noted and
reiterated that there is speculation here, here there is fiction. It' s based on a series, but it doesn' t mean it' s gonna be you see a real story, but it doesn' t mean that everything the series is saying is 100% real. Of course, that' s how they challenged Paola, who had nothing to do with it. And so much so, that this is fictional, that we all realize that in each chapter the crime shows different, because everyone supposedly imagines it when they find out
what happened then it always looks different. You see in Benito' s when they tell him this happened, he looks like it' s being committed inside the restaurant, because it' s like he assumed it when they told him it happened in such a place. Then you see something that didn' t happen, that inside the restaurant they come in and there they shoot and all
then in the other. The other version, I don' t know about Brenda, is also a little different and so they are changing it to realize all the ideas that could be clear tenor, the versions of each and the
ideas that each could have had. But, finally, the Prima Paola during this statement mentions Rosaura Vidal and the prosecutor shuts her up and the Prima tells her no, because I gave you the information, but you didn' t have to let her go right now, but well, Mr Attorney Villanueva presents the witnesses who say they saw her arrive in luxurious cars with a mean one.
And then, then, the question. The cousin lawyer tells them hears, but they have the statements are equal, as when copies on the exams, that is, exactly the same three and then he tells them and the witnesses end up saying good, because it is that I did not even read
what I sign. In the end, this cousin discovers that she was also a commercial lawyer, according to the series, because she ends up being a WOW- type criminalist and then says stop the witness because in March of nineteen hundred and ninety- nine, amezcua was already in prison and then Paula could not have visited him. No, that' s for some reason the dates didn' t match. Then it is shown that she has to be free. They appeal to human rights, they reject the request to release it.
And finally, Paola decides with her cousin that they have to make a lot of noise. And that' s when they make this statement on television and ask the witness to stop lying and you see the image of Vicente Fox' s triumph, that is, Cuautemo Cárdenas lost the Presidency and, indeed, there is a great media manipulation and the right witness sends good to notary. Says I, I lied, I, I lied, I, I lied,
and then Paola comes out Free is chapter five. Here. He' s here, so they make it very clear that everything was a political motive. How the case was handled, not Paco' s death, but how the case moved. It had to do with a political issue, which is
something else. The reasons why Paco was killed, for they are other exact ones, and this is what entirely pertains to Paola' s chapter, because it explains the reasons why she was involved as part of all this armed force that had been generated to explain to society or what had happened and how,
supposedly, they were capturing the culprits and imprisoning them. I mean, that ' s the political part, as you say, and that' s why it' s important in Paol' s chapter, especially because she' s the one that she didn' t flat out, because exactly here has nothing to do with the crime itself, so, here' s what Paula'
s chapter has to do with this false accusation for political reasons. Now yes, then chapter six, which is that of Attorney General Villarreal, who would be Billar' s and then wake him up in the morning and come interviewing an old and abandoned house a journalist who we don' t know if it ' s like a replica in Carmen Aristeguilite and it' s not something, but it' s another journalist with whom the attorney is going to talk.
The plausible part here is that the solicitor to see in the end, in the end, does justify it, but it seems to me that it is a bit cheating, because the solicitor talks about things he did not see. So, the attorney all he does is put his hypothesis, make his thesis, but he doesn' t present any proof. He supposes then to be in this luxurious, abandoned house and then he arrives at Sandra and well, because he already enters, not the procurator tells him is that we found that
he was carrying. We started to investigate it because it had a governor' s charola and it also brought in substances and then it said this was actually a federal, not a local case, but we had to solve it because of the issue of the next presidency. There it is, you know, a political crime. Clearly and then a guilty man didn' t come up and he interviews later. I don' t know if you managed to define who this procuro would be, who would be this character with whom the prosecutor
also interviews, one who comes out as gray with his back. And ah well, doctor tells us I don' t know if he made me at that time. I don' t know no, but he gathers around to come out of his back and gathers around to say what we' re going to say? And I don' t know what, because what I understand is that he' s the candidate, not that he' s scared blue
and like to move him there a little bit. They tell you, doctor, it tells you that the doctor, but what we' re going to do, because I already told you they have to hurry like he gives you certain instructions. They call him a doctor, instead of an engineer, not that you' re right already, but he is. Because then, later on, that' s when he says because we' ve already lost since
then it seems to me that it is. So here, then, here they let you see that well, they let you see or let you intuit or suppose that the solicitor was somehow forced, forced into this not and good. Then he says Paco must have been well accused beloved and Paco were comrades. That' s what Attorney General Villarreal says. She tells the reporter. Not Paco were comrades, they were brothers. Says I, I was forced
and says here they also mention. This is the part where, of course, I think that Mario Besares could be very angry with this series, because practically, says Mario got pechito because he accused everything. I was accusing him of everything, that is, among the jokes, among all of them. I had lowered some illustrations among these heavy jokes, although Paola during her channel said that it was how Mario himself, who was how they took them,
took them. They didn' t have this relationship of heavy jokes. Well, they say so here. All this about the son and so on, because it makes even if it was a joke and they took it away. So, you give me the floor to charge you no, and then you say that the prosecutor forces Mario Bueno to testify to her and Paco makes a difference. They present this scene of Paco with this mysterious huera and that they had differences for some properties and that Paco had to pay. And Paco says
I' ll pay you. I' ll give it back to you. Yeah, he doesn' t die there, it' s over, we get there and then you say and then why he was killed. If you suppose it' s the motive. Ah, well, he' s into the Attorney General says Paco felt untouchable. This is the very unlikely part, because, as I knew, Paco is from the least I say sorry. How would you have known about Paco' s conversation with the Huera? How did Paco know, how did the Prosecutor know this pact to turn everything from
Paco to the Ore how the procurator knew it. You can' t talk about something that you didn' t see, that you weren' t there then that they never knew, they never had in front of them such an oera the oera in so how would you know. I mean, the only boner is the one in my house. And then, very my güey your beautiful. And then, well says the solicitor. He said Paco felt untouchable as a personality of how he was going to be able to kill him.
Nothing was going to happen, I already had this psychosis, I already had these psychosis because I had had a previous attack or this assault that we had already mentioned, which is also mentioned in the documentary. And then, then, he says Paco desperately needed money. But what I don' t understand
is him. It' s supposed to describe a scene where Paco is desperately looking for money and so on, how he knew, how a person can narrate something he didn' t know is actually the entire chapter of the solicitor. There' s nothing left but a speculation of one' s own character. Yeah, you know what I mean. It' s as it is, as I think the solicitor must have thought this and then, then what
' s the story. So it was all a dream, the typical ching resource and it woke up that that' s very cheap, very cheap, exactly cheap. Five days later, he has five chapters, with testimonies that most of them say about a case that has not been closed, but that he was tried with documents and where the documents are, how exactly what happens. They' re wrong here because they don' t do that thing I
was dreaming about. But almost because when the reporter, who she' s giving her is in there, she tells her ay you know what it' s all about, like, a lot of questions of the kind you' re saying, but how about this, but in everything. And then he says, and by the way, because he' s talking about some cats that are out there in the house. And then she tells him, and by the way, there' s no cat here like giving you have to understand that he' s not dreaming, but that he' s delirious.
It' s because of the house. I think it' s also another narrative resource, that the house is like abandoned, like full of plants that it wouldn' t have to be in there. It' s not like a jungle in there with the couches, like with sheets, but like wrinkled, like a potty in the house, the pool looks like a very careless, dirty pool. I feel like it' s like a metaphor for the person we' re seeing. Not then will we understand that he is already
decadent, that he is almost dying, because he is very sick. And then in his mind, what there is is a series of delusions not that it' s already, Miss Cloyd scrambled and that make you doubt again everything that was apparently going to be so important of his revelations. That' s exactly why I think the worst chapter for my taste, for my taste, but everyone can see it the way they want it is the last chapter.
I think it' s a terrible, terrible closure. Says it may sound rogue says Daniel, but what an impression that they implied that when they edited the dream soap operas Mario and Paco were there with substances. So I saw that scene, too, which seemed a little bit useless to me. The scene had nothing to do with it. In other words, we had already been repeated in each chapter the consumption, the holidays, all that we had already been told. No, then he says Paco was already afraid, he
calls his house to say goodbye. This comes out in a scene. According to the procurator, according to attorney Villarreal, Mario I say Paco had already spoken on the phone to his house. Nor how is it in all your delirium and invention of the case, why would it hallucinate that Paco spoke to his family to say goodbye. That doesn' t have a go either. No, it has nothing to do with that scene, if it was probably a secondary character who could have played someone in Paco' s family who would
have received that call not and that son at some point was right. He spoke to me and told me, but or that the prosecutor had told me the relative told me not this, but not that Paco had said it. I mean, anyway, or the solicitor knew. Really, no paco. Finally, Paco, according to the procurator, on the seventh day of June, went to sleep at the forum. He didn' t want to go out anymore. Get out of there and you' re supposed to wake up
all tired raw. Go and see the chapter, Paco' s last program, for that is, well, to know no, because only he will have known. Then you can see that Mario arrives in the morning that already has his foot hurt and well, he enters with the exact charter here comes out and this we have already seen and please tell me. But you and I have already seen the chapter of June 7, nine hundred and ninety- nine, and I do not see what they say, that there was a
forum with great attention. Mario' s looking nervous. Mario' s supposed to say," Mario sends his regards and Paco says pay them and they pass with the papers" Hits him with the papers. That wasn' t the day when Mario, when Paco is here and tells him to pay, that' s when he' s telling your doctor that it' s his foot but I didn' t see him say" Pay them," pay
them. I think it must have been another day. But if I' m wrong, and if you' ve already seen the June 7 program, let me down, but I' m pretty sure that that' s Usa that day, if it doesn' t say pay him, but to the doctor who happens to you not that you still made this joke by name, because he' s a poor man, he has no money, he' don' t defend yourself. I mean, it was good, because Paco s useless and Mario still told him you don' t defend me compadre,
is stressed out. Suda calls Rosa, has a call from Rosaura. Paco lo baco is going to pay back all the money and then here' s the solicitor. Here in a war between the triples that were three criminal groups that I' m not going to mention, but each one started with the lyrics and wanted to end it. But in reality, the message for the authorities was to say this place is mine and I can do what I want
and I chose him, because he also has debts with him. You don ' t see a scene where one, a bunch of thugs force Mario to warn them. You don' t see Mario Besares' call when he' s talking to him, this criminal and that' s seen in one of the chapters. It seems to me that I don' t know if in the first one or in the Brenda one, but when Paco takes the phone from Mario Besares who go in the truck and Paco is supposed to tell him ay my queen, he' s actually the criminal. That' s what
they say in chapter seven. Then, in chapter seven, in chapter six, in chapter seven not yet the truth. In chapter six, they do imply that Mario put it, that Mario warned. You can understand that. Before the call is also seen a moment when Mario is caught, he is
put in a car with a bag on his head. Then they take it off and tell him on this phone we' re going to call you with this phone and there you' re going to tell us, that is, they put such a scene that the prosecutor is describing, which also supposes that he supposes in his imaginary as you just said in a delusion. Then you get that phone and then you see again the scene that they' re going
in the van. They' re hardly going to go to the famous breakfast when he answers he hears the voice and then Paco takes the time, but they already put him there, oh yes, he was the one giving him the instruction. I think they may have done this because basically because it' s a resource for me not to be sued. That' s me, because it was all a dream. It' s all an assumption of the character. In the end we' re saying it' s not true,
not good. Finally passes the scene where the sea are in the taquería. Mario' s going to the bathroom. Paco tells him that he already managed and Mario would have wanted to know, notice that this scene is very beautiful and very sad and very good by Luis Gerardo Mendez so they don' t tell me anymore. I' m not wrong. Luis Gerardo Mensa makes a scene that does, it moves you, it moves you, because it is this friend who has given to the other friend and that from the bathroom is
hearing the shooting and who cries and who cries. And yes, it is a very nice scene, very very sad, very well performed, but very credible. However, the scene is very credible, but it is in the imaginary of the character. It' s also all he' s counting, that' s in the end. Indeed, as we are told here, the journalist dismantles the story with a series of questions, which is practically what
is going to end the chapter. When I like what he' s saying lupita, but you know how you' re gonna know this, but how could this happen the same day more, this one and I don' t know what. And then that' s where it messes up the version. You' re done, because not here is still looking. Here they say then it was overtaken by a people and it is almost in the end a criminal hegemony and then it had to want in the square. The reporter questions
Villarreal for blaming an exact game Villarreal, feels frustrated. Then he says he ' s coming. This is when we don' t know why it comes also talking about the TV set and then this is when I don' t know if this character is representing Lily T and it' s or what else it will be or what it will be. But well, then it' s checked, according to the chapter that the calls if they were brende that and the report tells her the investigation was irregular. And then comes the attack
on the journalist. And well, in the end you die a real villain and also because they present two hypotheses of his death, not exactly. And then, because what I' m going to say he, he at the end burns avienta, the fireplace the cassette recording of everything he just told, of all that he just told and infer and put together in his story.
And he destroys the cassette and she stays very calm, doesn' t tell him, but how it goes, because she says this material won' t even work, we won' t even use it, because it' s inconsistent, because it' s implausible at many times and at some point, because it does give a hint that it could be a lilit teies maybe because it also tells her that you don' t believe me, because this Edenka doesn' t want to believe that it' s ede Khan who is the
real no Paola worked on the television where you are. So he tells you then, because we are talking that it was Treazteca at that time, that it was paco and where they were all. And the two versions also of the yes of death not one that was also through a crime, and the other, because natural death, which is what we really knew in the news that was given about this procurator notice, that is what I saw when you signal the scene that is very moving and well achieved of how it stays in
interpreting Mario Besar. It is this actor, Luis Gerardo Méndez, very similar. I think those dramatic scenes were well achieved. What happens when Paola the Belinda playing Paula is also in jail and she doesn' t bring her hair that bad anymore. He' s in the clothes they wear there and he falls apart and he cries and he already talks different. I don' t know if the address wanted to mark it or why. But those are the moments, I think, because they were more shocking about what they had to
suffer. There now, these versions of this chapter six that we say over and over again are being narrated by the actor who represents the procurator of that moment, with a lot of doubts that arise, but it is a very dramatic version, also, that is, of great impact to think that things will happen like this, so it is the chapter that is irregular. As you say, maybe you' re the one who liked it the least, but I' m the one who was most impressed by how hard the hypothesis
he' s making is because the threats are already there. A very desperate paco character comes out, sweating first very arrogant, first very arrogant and saying then to me not because I, that' s why I put my name And there comes the famous version of almost he do it as they want and that, then, they end up doing it as they wanted, as he
has told then. I am impressed by that, although I agree with all the inaccuracies and contradictions and the difficulty for this gentleman to know a lot of things that are not in any statement, that he did not see and that there is no one who has revealed them so or at that time what happens to him? Then it is to put the theory of those who made the series in voice of the character who would be the attorney. Yeah, that
' s what it looks like to me. Then the prosecutor is no longer the prosecutor, he' s already dead, because he' s a character over him. We can put the hypothesis that it' s delusional, but that thinks who wrote the story to. It seems to me that it is not, which is what they want to give in the end as an explanation that no one ever and in the end they tell us that it is a
case that is still open, that is still open. It is then understood that Paola during her YouTube channel specifies before each chapter that this is not a statement or anything to see and then they also feel this unserious tone with which she takes it. And it' s okay. And it' s fine, of course, that it' s clear to me that he learned and must have advised himself very well. An interesting thing is also I insist, I don' t know who it was, how it was, or anything.
But Mario Usa contradicts himself because with Adela Micha, because the first one says greetings, that we were great friends, we were brothers, we loved each other, and Adela Micha in an interview tells him no, because I no longer, I no longer went to work and he was on the first floor, but I was his worker. I didn' t name these parties and those things that they say I wasn' t ever exactly going. I
don' t understand. Yes, it has already changed in recent years a lot, a lot of the version and yes, it does draw attention powerfully. That is not what Paola says, for example, which clearly says that they got on super well and if Paco lived today, they would surely carry on and rather, heavy would not, above all, be carrying the same. And now, then, Mario says no, that it was just a matter of work, that they did spend many hours together, because they did
work a lot, but it wasn' t really a friendship. So all those things are like, well, but before it' s funny, because Mario says they didn' t celebrate or anything. But Benito ca this said yes. But Jorge Gill said yes, but we' re going to Jorge in his book. But well, Benito said yes. But Mario says no. No. I their business I didn' t know them and she'
s their exact thing. Look, Daniel says. I am impressed that the series blame the party they were running for the Presidency of the Republic for making the case It sounds strong, because yes, that' s the interesting thing about the series that presents this as a political crime and so as a political crime in the resolution of the case. Yes, evil totally handling the case. Yes, they present it like this, and that certainly is very strong,
of course. But yes, I' m really telling you the part about what you' re saying, put in the mouth of the attorney who ' s gone, the version is very shocking. It' s shocking and you present it in the last chapter. That' s, that' s
a message from whoever produces that lupita series. What strikes me is because Mario that despotic against Boneta, if he does Jorge Gilli, not against Luis Gerardo, if he interprets it and he is a producer notice that yes, that denotes, of course, a contempt for Jorge Gill, because Boneta tells him, after having done Luis Miguel, how it is possible that you are going down to do Jorge gi But why it would have to be less important. Jorge Hills is inside the story, because he' s right next to the
story. Now that what happens is that he was on the other side of the fence. Not exactly, exactly says Jesus Samper and they threatened Mario with his well and it is very and yes. I think we talked about it here before the show. Of course I would, and that would be understood. It would be understood, of course, that it would be understood, if it wasn' t to blame him, because yes, the thing is, yes. Exactly. I say this last chapter is where it is.
It seems to me that they want to make sense of the climate of anguish and despair that already invaded by being in a very dangerous situation. I was very serious. I think I, personally, think that being how this series has awakened, I think that Mario Besares should not give interviews if we already saw that Brenda was the one who was the face when it was all this, so that Mario didn' t turn against it said because maybe he could
have experienced a great confusion. But I shouldn' t give interviews anymore. I don' t think, in fact, that which was that I don ' t remember anymore, because if I' ve given many, but there ' s one that even headlined it. That' s what he says last time I don' t know if it was with Adela. Also he says
Mario Besares, is the last interview I give on this subject. I don ' t want to, I don' t remember, I don' t know if you guys went out, if it' s Adela' s, or it' s one with Jordi because it must be one of the two. And so you say the last time I talk about this he doesn' t want to talk anymore. But as the series appeared, he did return to him to give statements that he was against and that he and his wife
were reviewing the question of making one of a lawsuit. I really would have gotten a statement, done something much more discreet and not give interviews, because you really relive all this. Not this speculation and what we just did with the little step and check it out and it' s good. I mean, it was probably actually a foot. Anyway, I don' t know for the best, but then I' d already taken the painkiller. I don' t know what it means, but it does give you a lot
of speculation. No. That' s why the version again, in the so- called procurator' s version, also says no. He didn' t have to be involved. He got involved alone. He got involved alone. More and more. He got a little pechito' cause it wasn' t just a coincidence. But when you put those coincidences together, you put the case together like a gun, because you see, he had clear eyes. It was a pco gala to her, for he and with a say I saw her with one who says look, nothing more than how incredible that
Paula has said also all his life. There' s no check- in
and check- out from me, not from that inmate. When they say I was going that, there' s no way to say look in here you' re in and out, but if there' s one that says yes, I saw her and with that and with that already of course very gunned down, and I think to see, I think they did, I mean, they put everything together when the crime was on the other side, that is, maybe, Mario, they didn' t even really have it they' ve told us here hey, because maybe they' d already followed
it three days before, four days before. Maybe I didn' t need Mario to do anything to make that happen, but for the prosecutor, as he says in chapter six, because I fell in pearls I fell perfect. Daniel asks, apparently, yes, it gives rise to a lawsuit that Mario and Brenda have filed that you think. I think not, precisely because of this, because the chapter where theory is presented is mere speculation. And so and so it looks at the end you see that the attorney Villarreal, because
no more, is assuming, is saying nothing. And, moreover, because all the time they are putting, both at the beginning and at the end, that all this is a fiction based on real facts and that the investigation or the documents that are truthful, because they are in the hands of the authorities. I don' t think it exists, they' re in the authorities and that' s a case that' s been opened up exactly. LookÉie, tell usÉlie Caballero. The series will have only six episodes
and is so far unknown. If you open a second, no, not anymore. I think it' s over there. Indeed, I and you ' re right, but I don' t think there' s going to be a second, so yes. My opinion is that it was the narco, yes, yes, of course there was that, that is, of course the cause, that is, the motive of the crime. It' s probably very clear who' s guilty is what' s not. That ' s what happens, that it became a political crime and that' s
why it wasn' t solved. They intervened political forces and that made me not know. But go ahead, I mean. I think the rest is yes, because apart from the end is and like the triumph of justice that at that moment became the most important media speaking was the release of Mario and Paola. That was what ended up being in the foreground and not the answer and not the answer, because the case is still open. No, ah well, no, because we already found and it was this and it was
like that, not but that everything already stayed. What happiness Mario Baola has already made, they applaud him there. Lindas' s goes around like she ' s going around. I don' t know if Paula de Veras came out like that or not, like she was very happy moving her hair and so on. But, well, that' s Don From there it' s like already since we arm public opinion because it' s okay, and these two. But then exactly, exactly, so look, this was the
series, which is six chapters. If you want to see her, she ' s entertained, I think she' s well done, I think she ' s very well done, very well acted. And surely these last two chapters are going to give a lot of what to talk about the coming week, because yes, yes, they leave the case open, but they affirm a theory, even if it is speculated, but strong, well, dear, Dr Amel, thanks to all those who were now on Facebook, I
put them on live. Sometimes I don' t put them on, I put them in pieces, but I saw that they were interested in what. Well, they' re here. Thank you so much for joining us, thanks to those who are also on YouTube, thanks to all those who are on podcasts. Well, we' ll see you soon, Dr Amel, next Monday. Well, if anything happens, then we connect here, of course. Thank you all very much. Thank you, Lupita, thank you for joining us, thank you as always for your company, so pleased with
your support, your comments and for being here. Thank you, thank you, thank you to those who are here. I' ve been reading them all along and thank you so much. It says Gloria. Paula Erick Roar ' s lawyer explains things well Look for an interview with him. Ah well, let' s look, let' s go find a lawyer if they recommend us and help us in that, we will gladly have him here to explain the whole thing to us. Okay. Thank you very much. If you rest or have fun and do what you want at the end is Friday
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