You welcome, welcome all this day today, Thursday, June 27th, year two thousand twenty- four. Welcome, Dr Amel Hello. How about good night, nice to be here a pleasure welcome to Frad Baby Hello. Girls is Thursday. I can' t believe why many Thursdays, but it' s already a week a bit heavy for some. It rained the other day that I didn' t sleep I read that many couldn' t sleep either. I mean, it' s been a little tired for some of us
for a week. But welcome all those who are already connected here the YouTube channel, those who are members of the subscribers channel, those who are passing through and all who are on podcast platforms. Thanks for being here. Welcome to these rainy days. As he says, happy rainy days. We have some things to talk about. Not to see. Distinguished, plate me,
we' ve got, we' ve got look. We' re going to talk about Belinda and when asked about Nodal and Angel eagle of clarity that wins a lawsuit from a paparazzo from an actor who also seeks work, like Sergio Kleiner, as we told him yesterday from Christian Chávez. And you know that in the end, the title of this program is the enemy at home. But there are two women who, in parallel, are sharing their tragedies with the respective couples at home, and they are Abre Zapata and Laura Viñati.
But, right now, we' re going to talk and I think what happened with Auria Zapata changes our perception of this a little bit, of
all this that' s happening. Not what it seems to them that we start with Armando Araiza, which is this actor that we are saying that he wants work, yes, look, it' s funny, not that you showed us that you already put a publication in where Armando Araiza says and it makes good his shoot and says I have 180 films filmed that are a lot fifty years of artistic career, cinema, theater, you see digital content.
I look like a great star actor. That' s him. They remember that he had wanted to be given the role of Sergio Andrade in the Carla Estrada Ahá series. And no, because they didn' t give it to him, they gave it to Jorge Posa Caricaturesco, but they gave it to another doctor. This was no longer the case for him, nor would the great work have been the truth. But, well, he wants to work, well, the money was needed, but neither was the big loss.
Lizan a favor, they did her a favor, well yes, but you know what if not the truth, it wasn' t the big show. It wasn' t a great series for Gloria Trevi. But when you don ' t have a job, when you' re an actor and you' re a project, well, listen, whatever you get is really lame, not clear, and besides, I' m sorry. I think he didn ' t expect me to have so much criticism, let alone not go, with the best of the years to make a character, because he does saylus
Maria Moreno, fifty years of trajectory and forty of rest. Well, thanks to that, I don' t know, because he has done things now, but yes, he has a good time, that we don' t see him in productions, not in important productions, because to have 180 films
there are a lot of them. So I guess he had a very active, very productive stage, exactly and lately, if we haven' t seen him, but he' s been productive, because it' s a lot, not that work of 180 80 movies, because if it' s a noche, if it' s a lanita, then I hope I get a job, the truth. Or all the actors who are looking for work,
looking for them, recycling them. I think everyone wants to work and everyone wants their profession, their passion and of course everyone wants a space and I hope they get it soon by arming araisa the truth, yes, because it happens what you said yesterday or antier I remember that useful they are calling them
not all the time they are notice. I just saw a photograph of this new production of the Count, which is based on the Count of Montecristo and again, because it is Fernando Colunga, who has just come out in the sadly remembered evil version. Not here I say. I get the feeling that
that just happened and now he' s starring the count again. So, yes, it is true that they take the same ones, but it also seems to me that the level of o, the volume of production in Mexico, because yes, it has decreased greatly on television, that is, I don' t know if already. Apparently TV Esteka was going to do it again ah already announced captive something like that is called captive something like that,
but remember us when they had this booming time. Yeah, they had, like Televisa, a soap opera bar or they had a soap opera bar. During the form I had the juvenile, a teat or chinese bee, yes, no, and then they had the superstellar. In addition, these unitary programs, where I have just now seen that they just announced that they will premiere new chapters of what we silence women, because they had been repeating and repeating. But yeah, what we keep quiet is Aztec television. Yeah,
television or sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I' m sorry and I' m lost I ' m sorry Uh- huh Because I was saying that on Aztec television, too, it was also on soap operas at some point, like Televisa, that they had their whole soap opera afternoon as well. They also came to have Azteca television and stopped doing so. And now it looks like they' re coming back and they' re also recording new chapters of what we women
find. But there' s not so much production and then the same actors all the time, because that' s more complicit is that, besides, it' s always been like history, that the producers marry you with their team. Not then does the same producer always use the same protagonist thirty times and the same team. And then, before, well, there were five
productions of the year, now there are two. And if they' re repeating it, because I already do, it' s terriba hears, but exactly what Alessandra Lombardi says was what I was thinking as they didn' t happen in the novels. He dedicated himself a lot of arming araiza to the video homes. So yes, yes, it' s 180, but it ' s video homes and it' s not the same because you' re everyone sees you when it' s a jun video they see you in the
not in force, that is, people don' t see you. Not novels that are on open television, that are passed now, they are passed on Bigs and then they pass other countries and sell less than an hour, minus two hours. And, well, a lot, more exposure And video games, because they do give you food, but they don' t give
you exposure. And what happens with respect to Fernando Colunga, I understand that he is one of the people that sells the most, that is a safe box office, that has a good audience, that has a lot of audience, that says if Fernando does it with Nunga and I go, but we already saw that this series of the Greco people did not do well, that
is to say compared to the original, that is Argentina. Well, no. The truth is that all the other people who were fine, but Fernando Colón was telenovelesco and then he has the curse that comes to be again a satire, almost a parody of the original. Terrible. So listen, just recycle, put on other actors. You' ve got a chance and my heart' s a little lupit and heart' s gone, because yes, I haven' t. But also, in theatre, for example, yes
as well. In other words, there are many windows where you can call other factors. It' s just what you see about Colunga that Ephraim is declared. I' m super Cross, Nickrous girls sorry. I don' t know they don' t do it too badly. There you can do whatever you want wrong Hechi, some things did very well, but that one, that one. He doesn' t hear. That' s why you remember that Gerardo came to see us a lot, very guide and he doesn ' t come anymore, because maybe we said that about the curse and he
went out there. But hear, but it is that the monsters of the curse were dyor than those of Latvians to the darkness of the nineties. Hey it was no, well yeah, it didn' t work out, we ' re gonna do it. It was very bad forgiveness of production monsters, yes monsters hear and people who love no, no, no. I thought it was terrible. Listen and keep going with this, you see that there ' s the scandal because Christiano Dalli andÁngel Aguilar that this doesn' t
stop, for no? For no? Stop? And go on and on and out a note and another note comes out? But the one I wanted everyone to grab was this Belinda, and not here anymore. And at last it seems that now, yes, they already found it at the airport and what said nothing. Nothing, nothing, because she already in her Captus song, told us everything, she didn' t say anything. His dad stopped him. I love suó palizo the stoppage. They started joking, but they
know I did see Belinda' s face wanting to say things. But since you' re her Captus song, she' s in a lot of classes, she' s gone and she' s not saying anything anymore, because that you' re saying it with a lot of class. I think we if you' re going the glass, it' s not that way now were just talking about actors who suddenly lose control with journalists, who can be incisive, annoying, annoying. Whatever you want, not even the bikers,
some of them. Or comes this one that always wants to make me angry, but that what Lupita said and I saw you, that you also mentioned it, in history, in history, the one that has to control itself more, is the one that has more to lose and the one that loses
more because it is angry, then you are right. And that' s where sometimes some because it still fails them, despite having so many years in the middle And in the case of Belinda, because it seems that she does know how to handle this, because I do think it takes a lot of tempering too when you are actually boarding so many, so much microphone, you already have them there already you are caught and you are Dale and Dale and Dale, and what do you have to say, what do you have to
say? And she has to have a lot of self- control and then nothing else says I don' t think. That' s all he said. I don' t think of other people or other people' s lives and then says the series A who killed him is the most seen in Adamson. That' s what she' s interested in. Yeah, not even if she has a reason for Linda, for what she' s going to get into other things, and above all, after she put up when this
Angela- Nodal relationship happened, she put her thirty- second. I think it lasted thirty- four seconds all its own weight and took it off later. Then, so, and after seeing Eduardo' s reaction, yañes with the press, the dad must have done no, my little girl I don ' t know shouldn' t answer be Belinda. Come on, shut up, shut up, you shut up. Not really, but it is that in the case of Belinda, yes It was a case of poetic jurist, because if we read Captus' s song full sentence profrase, we go to
the video, paneo por paneón. There' s everything, that' s all Belinda' s answer. What' s more, the ones looking for Belinda are a wink. Now I got it, because I just understood that
about a week ago, a video of Angel eagle. All of Belinda' s video, all of it is the dress she wore when she left with Nodal and the car in which everything crashed and those big pamphlets that they put all over the city that said don' t look her in the eyes and bring Belinda' s eyes and make her look is a wink to a video of Enjal eagle. Then they' re all in. In this video you already saw coming And how weird, because Belinda released the song in January,
when we thought Trazu and not Dale was very good. Exactly, exactly, well, yeah, I think that' s what he had left for whatever relationship he had after her. Yes, and well, it' s already Linda' s very prudent, which is celebrated, applauded, because, Right now, no one' s talking about Belinda, no one' s saying Belita. Belinda said, I don' t know what Belinda meant. No, because Belinda understands that her series is very visible, even though she is
criticized as Paola spoke during the series. I said, like she says, winning as usual, winning as usual, and I losing to my puppies as usual, because like her time of play is seven and a quarter. The moment I sit down to work, that' s when they decide to play here with me. But notice that he told them very quickly, very quickly so that he could understand me the day he ran away. It was with the veterinarian because he was missing a vaccine, which is the embroiderer already had
the other or the rabies and so on. And then when this vet sees her, which is Cooper' s veterinarian, which is the first time he ' s been with him, I' m telling him how he got here. And so, and then he says when he arrived, then in December. And then when she sees her, she tells me that this little dog must not have had more than six months. When she came with you, she' ll be a baby wandering around the streets all by herself. I
' m glad you' re here. So I' m telling you to understand that it' s accelerated, playful and so on, but it' s already pasta what' s next. Clara Chia to clear Chia. He won him a paparazzo, a lawsuit. Now in Spain how he hears it. I thought there was no. Those things did not happen, because imagine I say everywhere is bread every day that these paparazzi are in plural, paparaz
in singular. Indeed, they do and undo with their cameras and come and go the information and it is something very much helped, very recurrent, very constant. But the fact that it has been given the task of bringing an
action and that the action has been brought seems remarkable to me. And it turns out that yes, because she accuses him of harassment, that she felt, because she was very harassed by him, very persecuted and then there in Barcelona, yes she took the decision and conclusion that he will have to pay thirteen zero euros and will not be able to approach her for year and a half. And I' m going to tell you something that I, in the part, listened to distuñón in a while ago that I was eating.
I was listening to distuñón saying that freedom and paparats and work. I agree and support the work of the paparazzi is their job, Kadri Paparazzis. Great. I think that' s very valid. But what Clarachia says is me.
She wasn' t a public figure And it' s true, Clara Chia wasn' t a footballer, she wasn' t a singer, she wasn' t an actress, she wasn' t a socialité, she was a piqué girlfriend It' s like we' re not going to think of any other famous woman who has an anonymous wife and they go and chase her up to the super like the ay That' s like Gabriel Soto' s right now, well not in the case of Gabriel Sotos, they would chase
him because she would be the umpteenth girlfriend in turn. It' s exactly like when kids aren' t girls, like when kids are taking pictures. So it' s just as gradium, because finally, of course, it ' s not a public figure. Life led her to make a public figure and it was in everyone' s mouth because, then, clearly not.
But from there because besides, if that dragged her, no, I mean, the fact that we said her name every day five times a day, because clearly we listened to her five times a day in every place, she took her to that place. But she' s no one is not a public figure, she wouldn' t have to be persecuted. I do compare it like when they photograph the kids, I mean, you don' t have to. Well, she, who she is, or the famous one,
yes, but she is. And I think that, moreover, this proceeded above all by the forms, because that is what she is saying, because she felt harassed, invaded, persecuted And then that is also why this proceeds. And then in Barcelona there is a judge who, then, dictates not this sentence, because there are a lot of other photographers and there are many spellings of you that and he declares and they go up and they are
here and they have not been sued. This one in particular, was because it was, as well as already, very very invasive and is much very invasive, very very invasive. The truth is, yes, a lot very invasive. I totally agree, because I feel a precedent back there in Spain, at least, and I don' t know if something like this can
be done here in Mexico. I think that once, if I remember correctly also Barbara Mori complained because there was a paparasia had taken pictures of her inside the living room of her house and yes, it was a terrible invasion of her privacy, because one thing is that they were ri being figure they took her leaving her house in a public place that inside the living room of her
house. It' s not like a neighbor right now starts photographing me here when you publish them, or it' s like they' re talking to me. Not sure, he doesn' t say the maria. It was a precedent to sue anyone, not anyone. I think whoever takes pictures of you and harasses you because maybe, good to these people who took pictures of NodalliÁngel Aguilar in Paris, well, it wasn' t that they were chasing him. They bought a ticket, no, because they found them and
they' re fans and they followed her. And now. But the other case was already a little more dramatic. It' s not that finally the thing, that thing. You know what happens a lot in gyms that I see all the time old pigs taking pictures of the kids. If only they could see what a coraji. Yeah, you don' t know which phones they removed. I' m a smart girl because I feel like the vigilante in the gym. I mean, seriously, gentlemen, so they' re here, I don' t think I' m gonna train you. I
mean, yeah, it' s bad. It' s so lousy that it' s awful r is that that' s clear, of course, because I did know, I met a paparazzi who was going the same gym as me, but it was extremely respectful that I was going to go many celebrities and was extremely respectful inside the gym because in the end it' s a private place. Hey, you' re sweating me in there, you
' re in your worst laps. No, and if he was truly respectful and I hadn' t noticed it, notice that until a coach told me you were his friend, ale very well, but admire him that day. I admire it very much, of course, because that' s being professional. Nonprofessional knows when and how where I work clearly, of course, you can' t hear if you see me distracted, because something has today is that today something has my networks that doesn' t get stuck to everything.
I have paused the chats and so on, but I have not been able to download this photo of which Christian Chávez published. I was trying to unload it and I can' t unload it, but I' m gonna put it here because you sent it to us. You Ephraim, publish it where it' s because he publishes this photo. Let' s see. There it is, Instagram, on Instagram, the public will remove the lamp. There it is to make it look good. There he is. I say that' s why FIFA has punished the Mexican team. For this word,
the truth. For that word, the Mexican team has been punished with many fine matches. For this reason, they have also been punished in the batons
for that, because that word should not be used. I don' t know how you see it Ephraim, the Christian can use it and then, exactly that' s why I came to bring them this subject of what we were talking about the other day, that no one understood it and some girl answered me in the comments of the other age that yes, it' s very complicated that a person who isn' t seeing the context understands the situation. I mean, I can' t talk about feminism because I' m
not a woman. I can' t understand girls. She' s not having a birth. It wasn' t, I mean, there are issues that you come up with that in life I' m going to understand then
heterosexuals. Suddenly he doesn' t understand the situation of what is Saturday and what is this month was the march, the pride that today more than ever I understand why it is so important and this christian what he is doing with taking up this word is to re- mean the words, which was what I was trying to say that day, that is, to take up a word that hurt us so much, that it so badly bullied homosexuals and, from that place, to re- mean it so that it' s no
longer a word that assaults you, because in FIFA they say the fucking word to offend, to denoster, to stand aside. It' s like when women remean the word bitch and then you' ll have said that bitch you ' re not no nosstrates, but it' s what shit, like the word bollocks I explained to them that day, that the bollocks came from when a Spaniard pregnant an indigenous woman and the one from her you fucked and already from drinking was a bollocks and because now we' re all very bollocks and
a word is remeaning. That' s what Christian' s trying to do with this documentary, putting it like that. I, when I saw the word, became super aggressive. I said ay Cristia, because it' s not this, yes because it' s more, there are gay activism discussion forums that I' ve been resting on for a while now and I want to take it back because I' m interested in my community and with the window that lupita gives me, I think it might be important to do something
right. Done, nothing more with the legs. And I used to say when they said what word we can take in order not to take the word gay, because the word gay is not a not in Spanish. We are occupying an anglicism, because there were discussion forums that said fucking jacko faggot and
I said to is that all the well aggressive ones. Not to give me of this, please, no, but the real factor is that yes, Latinos and Mexicans need to have a word that reregnifies something that denoted us so much that it is not homosexual, because finally, the word homosexual is the word sen you, but as well as in English is the word gay. We need to look for a word that identifies us, that resigns us and that the community can identify itself from a place that is no longer violent.
So I understand that it' s very shocking from the other age of heterosexuals to see the word like that, because it' s a shock in sight. But the factor of what you want to be a Christian is this remeaning the word, because the truth, if anyone has my respect, they do know what happens to the word gay. In fact, he meant only to
claim. So, well, it' s given a different meaning. I, I am of the opinion that words, words, like substances, like deeds, like everything are, are without judgment and people print the meaning. Then I can say the word to the bastard and give him a different intention. And then I can use bastard as compliment, or bastard as insult or bastard as nothing. Like saying. There' s a fucking dot walking around
as you understand me, so every person gives it the meaning. And all that according to your experience and what you want to say and in the context you say it. The use of the word is a beauty. Languages are a beauty and Spanish is also a beauty. Then I think the words you mentioned are offensive. They went because they were said in a context of intolerance, They were said at another time in a context of pointing and persecution.
Yeah, but that' s not happening today. If I were to say one of those words to you, as I would say, it wouldn' t have that meaning, but you, if you would accept it, you would take it that way because you understand me, but I wouldn' t have to say it that way, and as Ephraim says, it' s something I also understand and Lupita said it too. I end up saying it ' s something that' s taking time, how the words are being transformed
and the meaning we give them. And the best example is the one you said a while ago, not that it can be insulting, but in doing, but partying. But I mean, not the whole word with che. Then it has evolved, but in a barbaric way. And also this other word that I' m not going to say, because I, like you said, can say it. You can say you can say no. I can' t give you anything. You can say it with the good one
no, but I' m telling you with nothing. I wouldn' t say it right now, but I mean that word all of a sudden today. Currently I do still feel her strong, violent. This is probably going to change, as you say, but it is true that there is also another connotation that I have heard when, for example, someone achieves something and
does it well and no one expected it. I' ve heard that they say ah you did it, that' s already entering as on this other level, of course, yes or no. I can, no, yes, yes, no. And there are words that just don' t. There are words that perhaps tell women that for those who are young and others or for those who use them in a way are offensive. For women there
are also very offensive words that are used with a lot of everyday. Oh, well, that' s a no. No, it' s not a saying because not everyone gets it like that and what you have to understand is the intention. It' s the intention. Yesterday I was listening in a note. I don' t remember. If it was on a newscast or on an image show, I don' t remember. But they talked about video games and the damage video games did and about the use of avatar
and why people went and killed. It was a more or less red note from a person who had gone to kill a playmate to another city after fighting this person for video game. Not then that video games have discussed it in the most broken that video games could influence behaviors and it is not the same again. There are millions, billions of people who play video games and that ' s not why they go out to kill their partner. So, it ' s not the substance, it' s the person who plays it.
So he' s not, he' s not the one who consumes it. So it' s not the word, it' s who and how you say it. And we' ve analyzed it many times. That' s us in broken souls just from the kid he played. Yeah, but that wasn' t right now so what Christian Chaze is being is a documentary and in this documentary what he shows us with this name and this word, what' s important. I loved what he said, because he was talking about exactly this whole thing about how we got out of so- called clous
det. And I live Christian Chavez with a lot of love because it was a reference for me and I put it in the check story and there were women making prints, that is, cher suffered because there were no brunette women to identify themselves. Imagine that I didn' t have a successful homosexual character, that it wasn' t a joke like an agapit of being a conduit of all these. I didn' t have a character I could identify with.
The glory of all this is that now not only are Chávez, it is but Ricky Martin, but this child who sings Saturn we all live, that is, there are like many homosexual Pablo Durán, that is many homosexuals in Zirlanda, Paolo, that is so many successful people with which you can
identify that it is not a joke. So I think that from that place the documentary is going to be very interesting, because it' s going to talk about exactly that other age that I' m going to really like that you guys are going to see when I live with feminist women and you' re in activism and so on. I learn a lot because I' m
not a woman. I can' t understand them. I don' t know how you guys live on gender- based violence, that is, I can, but civil form tex is perceived in many ways, like a woman doesn' t tell you that you can' t think about football, for example, because you' re a woman. So, for example, women. I understand that the community has suffered a lot, but women have suffered historically since being the culprits of having lost paradise. And I can' t
talk about feminism because I' m not a woman. I can' t understand it, I mean, I can see it from the outside, it ' s more, from my privileged place of being a man, because despite this homosexual I' m a man. Then I was born with the privilege of being a man. I don' t mean, because from this place and maybe, since my discrimination that I' m gay, I can see how machismo and patriarchy have hurt you. But that' s where liminality is where I can be. No, I can' t have it like you,
because I don' t live it. I think that in order to bring a real civilization so that the world would be truly civilized, we should stop calling each other with labels or classifications. You' re Ephraim and I ' m Guadalupe. And I don' t have anyone to say if I ' m a woman, if I' m tall and fat, if I ' m skinny, if I' m flat and I speak English and I
' m my daughter, I' m a dot. Then people should refer to them as the person they are and they should refer to them as the person they are and they should refer to them as the person they cs but you know what. And I was very curious because it was happening as well as we heard. So, indy Lopez, I mean, in this whole thing of putting us all in boxes and then we all want to be part of something. But it' s just that exactly what I just told you I don' t know who failed or who left the image. It was
me or I freeze something, but exactly aha. This is what I was saying. Right now, let me freeze why we have to call. Right now, Fabiana also told us about lesbians who give them calfir as well. Why would we have to call one person in some way or another, why don' t you call the person by name and clear point and point, that is, because you are a woman man, whether you like it, pay them or not, if what you care, why would we have that we are all or what it says here, do, what are twelve might
be my sign. I tell you, everything has failed me. Everything has failed me, but well, since here a conversation so serious important for Ephraim and the dog does not let listen, because it is not my dog. Look, my doggies are asleep down here, it' s gonna be mine They' re down here I slept asleep, that is, they' re tempting with such an anxiety to be man and let me see if I can
reduce the exact sound. So don' t even criticize me because they' re looking and besides, I warm up that they' re asleep on my feet you still hear, yeah, yeah, still you traisy lii man and forgiveness. Now it' s me what. Well, it was those cats and e g nga hears yu Judith says she sees them very well.Álvaro García says it' s all right now, says Lola that we' ve made up already. Well, there they are, they' re not as good as they are. Well, I think we' ve stabilized a little.
No. But I think that' s the argument. That is the argument as long as we continue to fight and I say it with absolutely all peace, as long as we continue to fight for others to treat us, tell us and refer as we want them to do. We' re not going to come to any agreement. But the moment we decide to talk to each other, everyone by our name and in respect for the person we are without labels, I don' t care if full is gay, heterosexual,
bisex I don' t care that should make me equal. Full to me, little guy, I' m interested in his name and who he is and point and point. But I' m gonna pretend that I' m gonna go out and tell them, I' m gonna go out and complain to all the people who say that ladies my age can' t talk about football. I don' t care. Tell me what the lord wants I don' t care. I don' t think I' m, I ' m, I' m, I' m gonna differ. Me. Yeah. I think labels are important. What happens is what they generate with
them. Yeah, I think they' re important because I mean, Mom, it' s a label friend, friend, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that' s not a label. That' s a life role. That' s not a label, because it can be a gay dad, it can be a straight dad, it can be a male friend, it' s different things. But I do think it' s important to label and label sex. Yeah, I think without you I think I do, yeah, I think it' s important. And I believe it because it' s not
the same thing in playing you. I mean, from my other age, I can' t demand heterosexuals to understand things they don' t have to
understand. But I mean, I think it' s important to label, that is, because it' s important that you have to tell people what your sexual preference is, because I' m going to set the most controversial example in this world and it has to do, for example, with the subject of toilets, with trans people, that is, there are things that are already happening and they are real, so what we' re going to do, because from respect, because the issue of what was distorted here is
that they' re afraid of the label, because the label isn' t bad. The problem is when it' s mislabelled. If a soda has sugar, then it has sugar, if it' s zero, then it ' s zero. There are bisexual people, there are musical people, and perhaps the community is not so important. But with all this stuff about trans people and non- binary people, they' re so complicated things to understand even for me, because for me it' s very complicated to understand that.
And I' m going to tell you one thing. I have had a close relationship with trans men lately, because I have many patients who send them a kiss, who are trans men who told me people invisibilize us. But since we don' t know that we were women and that we are men now, we don' t exist. Nobody talks about us, but here we are. But then to see but why they are invisible, that is, what they would have to be. Something very serious, Luis,
you don' t know what' s going on. A trans guy can ' t bathe in a shower, a bath, a gym, because men see each other and then, for example, because he doesn' t have a penis. And that is, finally, what space you' re going to put in there what we said in the beauty contests. Open some open a few indistinct baths or special baths for trans people and that years of men to put on already And that still does not happen. I do, I think I do. I think labels can be important and they don' t
have to be. I don' t think they' re bad. Uh, I' d be looking at a midpoint, that is because labeling is a strong word, which implies a kind of limitation, I feel, and that, besides limitation, it erases other infinitely more important attributes of a human being than what he does with his personal life and how he feels. Then I would see it as something intermediate in this sense, that is because here
I am also seeing some comments. It is that suddenly yes, they ask you up in the jobs or seven put in an apple, because yes, something has to be known, for example, in a query, not, for example, in a query, in a first interview, because one does ask questions. He doesn' t ask people. You' re married single this is why. You don' t need to know the context of the
person. And now what we normally ask is the majority. We don' t ask in a valuation interview you have boyfriend or girlfriend something like that anymore we don' t stay with that or that' s not this heterosexual homosexual person, like we care about tagging. We simply ask how you are living your life to have the context and so we ask you have boyfriend or Bride something, ah, well, yes, I have you, I don'
t have you. I' m married, I' m married and so much, but this part I think the word etiquette is what this is strong. Of course, I draw attention, because it' s like limiting or constraining the person. To that, to that and and I' ll tell you one thing, the argument. I think it' s a discussion that we' re talking about two different things. You' re talking about the
label in one from a pragmatic point of view, from practice. Not me, no, I' m talking to you from a person' s I D. I see the person as a whole and its accidents, all its characteristics are characteristic of him, which I do not have to review or explain to me. You mean practice life a day, going to a bathroom, going to a consultation. But, well, yes, I totally agree.
But that' s why I label you, that I have to, that I have to introduce credentials and that you have to tell me, no, no, I don' t think anyone, because then we would have to go out on the street saying hey Guadalupe Martinez. I' m dyslexic, well, no, don' t, don' t. But for you, Loupils, and that I know you, it' s not important. But for many people this issue of practicality ah clear, out of respect, out of respect and out of tolerance. And out of respect, of course,
I don' t understand. It' s more. I' m gonna tell you something that happened with a trans girl two weeks ago at the gym I' m going to. At the weekend there was a meeting with all the ladies to know which bathroom I had to go into and I appreciated that she said well, because the partners tell me if they want me in their bathroom or I go to another bathroom. The world is not going to end. But that' s when you say well, she knows the place
that real life has. I mean, this topic is that I do believe and I said it the other day that as I left the closet it ceases to be a political act and heterosexuality is the norm measured life is going to
change us. But that can be understood by people like you, to whom I speak of my nobles, as if nothing happened and they never make me expensive, I mean and I, although it is catalogo with my fellows when we are alone boys, well catalon with my companions and tell me nothing, because you have another degree of evolution and I don' t say it from the guavabazo, because it doesn' t go that way. But the bulk of the population girls live in another age and there are still many rivers yes.
I think that' s why we' d have to work in that place. We' d have to work on respect rather than label. I think respect and exact education. Well, we' re not gonna miss the theme we had, which we have on the cover. That' s why I' m sorry to interrupt us It' s not that I' m not interested in the subject, because we can be a special program. With regard to this, I fully agree and have guests as well, because in addition, it would open up our perspective a little bit and we could come
to understand a lot better. This is not great I totally agree with the one who wrote it to us. I totally agree. But well, the enemy at home, Laura Viñati and theÁurea Zapata, that this is the theme of the cover and we haven' t touched it. We' re running out of time. Well, Laura Viñadi has denounced it, we haven ' t talked about it. He has denounced to this man that he raped her and as I tell them, because they do not want to upload my
photos today. But, well, she reported, posted on her instagram, so you can find her. Laura Vignati with double tea and went to Daniel Iturbide' s program to the news where she was given a space to denounce this man who has not been arrested. The case of Laura Viñati, who was kidnapped, has not evolved. I read the other day that it was her fault because she had gone to live with him when he had very little time to know him is that he has nothing to do with that for a
person to hold you against your will. And, on the other hand, we had talked here about the subject of Patricio Cabezut and I had it personally.
Yes, I admit that I had criticized Uria Zapata because some audios had come out that was what we heard where she threatened Patricio Cabezut to send him, because to know what the lawyer said, to see what he was denouncing, but they had already raided it. Well, they had gone into his house to get his house because Patcio Cabezut had more than a hundred visits that
were not available to his daughters. However, she now speaks loudly and says what happens is that the one who did not go to visits with my daughters was Patricio Cabezut It was the one who cancelled the visits. This was an interview with Andrea Escalona and Tania Rincón on the show today where they opened the space. It should be noted that today, too, Patricio Cabezut has been
given the microphone, in other words, they have been fair. So here what happens is that he goes out to Oria Zapata, interviewed by these two drivers and presents because I was hearing him talk and I said to see, so let' s go, let' s hear, Let' s hear,
Let' s hear? She then maintains that the one who canceled the visits was Patrick Cabezut himself, who does have a job and that, despite that, he has not given them a pension And the strongest thing of all is that, besides presenting photos where marks are shown here, you know how they are here when they pull you, when you get your arm bruised in the leg, where they say that he beat him with a belt. And the strongest thing of all is a video where you see it' s a
hidden camera. This aurea Zapata says she was in a pandemic, she had covid had her two little daughters and you hear Patricio Cabezut' s voice yelling at the daughters in rudeness and bad words. I' m gonna hit you with the belt. I' m gonna hit you Get in there. That
' s where you' re polluting everything. I understand that during the running of the bulls the mental health of many people was affected, but to violence two small girls in that way because it must have been a strong trauma and especially with the threat of a belt and to beat them and listen to the voice of now Zapata telling his daughters not your dad, it will not hit you, it will not hit you. And in the end, well, well, get out of the house and I' m already going to go,
and yes, you hear a patrician who' s violent. That' s what we saw on the show today, the day of the interview with Abra Zapata, Andreas Calona and Tania Rincón. I don' t know how you saw it, because yes, as you say, terrible, strong, surprising, because it does contrast with this, with this other information that we had heard, which is also where it says. I don' t know what I' m gonna charge you with. I' ll call myself the
lawyer. We could probably think today that she didn' t know what terms to use or probably didn' t want to tell him what she was actually planning because maybe she was afraid, she wasn' t clear about things. I don' t know about that violence, because it' s there. However, the rest will still be seen, the other accusations she has raised, but I believe that the important thing here is clear that she has every right in the world to decide when and where she shares what she has as
evidence. The main thing is, therefore, that it should certainly do so before the authorities. It is not to reproach why you did not teach it before, but simply and simply is the story that they are telling us and that, as a public, we receive in that order. Because you say it' s Elvira Araceli Garcia, says the videos are manipulated. Why do you present them so far? What you' re saying is the truest thing we can say. We can think about what they see us, based on
what they see us. We can' t say more than that. It ' s not true that it' s very adventurous to say that a video is manipulated. No, I mean, the video is what we' re watching, as well as the audios, where she also said what she was saying. It' s the audios where she said it. So it' s very adventurous to generate a trial right now and say no if the videos are manipulated. That I believe that no one are to judgment of daring is
more or to give either of you the reason at this point. And I ' m going to tell you what I did think was true as long as the video was true. So, I kept thinking and then the other saying to see how I do it. But I' m going to see what I' m accusing you of, because couples are the reflection of our self - love and are the reflection of reality. So, then, it wouldn ' t be so wild to think that the other, if it were true, if the other is able to tell you what I accuse you of?
I mean, we' re talking about two people who are totally out of reality or two said Mira or two people sorry, no yes, yes, that put it out of reality. No more saying that. I think what we' re seeing is my opinion and my perception is that everyone is telling a part of the truth, that is, because we won' t know what it' s like, that is, everyone who the part I want you to see I' m going to introduce you to what I want.
Hey, I' m gonna introduce you to the audio with the lawyer, which I want you to listen to, and I' m gonna introduce you to the videos at my house, which I want you to watch. No. However, I think the two of you must have your share of the blame and both of you must have your little things. Yes, and I ' m telling you and if she' s showing evidence of violence, then how terrible and she' s absolutely right to have said I wanted to separate
myself. That is why it is absolutely understandable and also necessary, especially for protecting herself and her minor daughters. Now I tell you the other part is missing, the part that they also accuse even more serious will have to be shown. And then who knows, not in other words, we don'
t know. But if the opinions that we have poured, for they have been that in function of the reality that they have been showing us all this time And if, at a given moment this would change and could also change the case of Torpar, the case of whom you want with the necessary evidence. It' s not that you get rid of anything, but it' s just that you think from what we see, the truth of what we see. Neither are we public prosecutors, lawyers, judges, nor are we
good at all the evidence. It' s the Mira case. I' m going to keep this thing that Paula tells us, which says one thing is spanking and another abuse of children. Neither is good, but there is the same difference. So, they' re both violent, but, of course, it' s one very strong thing, one accusation and another is no different. So, then, we' ll see what reactions there are because surely Patrick will sometimes react to this, otherwise he' s already reacted
and we' re going to be talking about it. But listen, tomorrow we' re gonna talk about toxic couples. We' re doing this test of passing through, digging up stories or these new programs about analysis. Tomorrow you' re going to talk about toxic couples with our favorite specialists. There ' s going to be Juan and Salazari and there' s going to be Dr Mel and, of course, the entire history team that wants to get in really well. Yeah, because, but the joke is to talk about
it. Let' s analyze different toxic couples and toxic relationships in general, because nothing more couples. There are parents and children, there are toxic siblings, there are all kinds of toxic relationships and exact toxic, also toxic artistic couples. Oh, well, everyone treats you, for example, I' m coming to this show. I mean, it' s been, it ' s been tomorrow, I' ll see you here, here, I ' ll see you at night. Thank you very much, Dr Abel,
thank you all very much. He was a very father and look how to make them see that it' s not true, that we' re always right. We really have everyone' s opinions, but we can discuss and come to certain conclusions together and that' s very nice and that' s why we' re going this program with all peace. Thank you, Effra Baby. I love them girls and to see that because the other day they said they had me tongue- handled and then Lupita told me what I had
ever had to say. I' ve never had a line in my life. I can say what I want always on the barrier of respect and I believe never in your disrespect. And let' s finish the program just as we gossip about other things are relaxed exactly in the comments. This is the program with all peace, along with exact peace. Hey and recognize me,
actually. As for the subject that Ephraim touched on, I recognize that I speak from ignorance, but we promise that we will organize that program with guests that I hope you will bring us, Ephraim and that they will explain to us so that we can understand those who are of other generations. Thank you very much to those who have accompanied us today and we see ourselves rejecting this good one. Thank you so much for joining us for being here with us
on the platforms, whom YouTube and I see. I go running to history, in history, see you guys later and repeat, a thousand thanks, always a thousand thanks to