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Here Since DAY ONE of Senior Bowl Practice | Ticket to the Draft Podcast | Washington Commanders

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Logan Paulsen is in Mobile, Alabama for the Senior Bowl and takes a deep look into the prospects after day one of practice. Logan focuses on Bo Nix, Michael Penix Jr., Johnny Wilson, Devontez Walker, Laiatu Latu, and Christian Jones. Host: Logan Paulsen Producer: Jason Johnson

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Speaker 1

Welcome to the Ticket to the Draft. I'm Logan Paulson.

Speaker 2

We are down there at the Senior Bowl and we are gonna give you everything Draft and Senior Bowl related. We're talking Ted Walker, Lat two, lat to bow Nicks pendix. We're giving you all the insight right out. Welcome into the special edition Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with what are we calling you?

Speaker 1

Jag Jason? Is ever calling you? Just? Yeahy Jason?

Speaker 3

Normally producer Jason, but in the I'm offering no analysis here. I'm not an expert at anything. I just produce this podcast. But we want a sounding board for you, correct, So that's gonna be me. So I'm here with you on producing show. So I'm gonna ask you questions just so I get a better understanding. And I feel like I'm just a guy.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

So the people that listen to this mostly just guys gals, so I'm gonna be that kind of proxy for them.

Speaker 1

Yeah. I like that a lot. That's great.

Speaker 2

And so this is the Ticket to the Draft, yeah right. And the Ticket to the Draft. It's presented by seat Geek, the official primary ticketing partner of your Washington Commanders and So we are down in Mobile, Alabama. We're in a hotel room right now doing this podcast. That's why there's no Fred, no Santana, and we are going to give you our insight into the Senior Bowl. And we watched all practices today, both practice today, and it was a

gorgeous day down here Mobile. Start off a little bit chilly, got a little hot as the day went on. I got a little sunburn, you and I both did. But it was a lot of fun. We got to watch a lot of football, and I thought we'd start high level and just kind of say, first practice the day was the National roster, so that's the roster with Michael Pennix bow Nix.

Speaker 1

And that practice went.

Speaker 2

I'd say, very very smoothly, right like, not only was it smooth from a football standpoint, but just moving between drills, the execution practice seemed very high. And when you compare that to the American roster, which was the second practice afternoon, there was like a lot of standing the round. I talked to a couple of agents afterwards and they were like, why was there that twenty five minute period in the middle of practice where everyone was just standing around doing nothing?

So very very different. And then another thing that we noticed is that in the first practice, obviously you have the big name quarterbacks. You got Michael Pennick junior, you got Bonix, probably guys, I know, Jason going in the first round. Potentially, we'll see what happens with Michael Pennick juniors in terms of his in terms.

Speaker 1

Of his medical stuff.

Speaker 2

Obviously got a lot there to clear his back, his knee, a lot of college football. But guys, you know, like right now, if Bonnicks comes out of this process really well, probably going to be a tough fifteen pick.

Speaker 1

So we'll see.

Speaker 2

Compare that to the second group, which is you know, Spencer Rattler, Joe Milton, Michael Pratt, Carter Bradley, who again is from South Alabama, the school where the Senior Bowl is at, that's the American roster. I thought there was a noticeable difference between the two practices in terms of how the quarterbacks played, and I thought that affected the quality of the receiver, tight end, running back play in

some of the drills that they did. And so I don't know, do you have any thoughts on that.

Speaker 4

Why do you think they did that?

Speaker 3

Why do you think who put the roster together, put guys that could be first round quarterback talent in one team, and that split them.

Speaker 4

Why not Bonicks on one side, Penix one the other.

Speaker 2

Well, so what I was thought about that too, Like if I was a scout, what's the perfect scenario for me in terms of evaluating those two guys?

Speaker 3

You want to just behind the same line, throwing to the same guy, same defense.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so if we're trying to go apples to apples, there's no better way to do that.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

We got the same o' line, got the same skill position guys. And again I don't I don't necessarily love that because I'd like the second group because I want to get an evaluation on the second group of receivers. So like in the first group, for example, we got you know, Roman Wilson, jab Jacob Cowing, Ricky Piersaw, Luke McCaffrey, Brendan, Rice, Devontes Walker, Malachi Corley, Javon Baker. All those guys I thought had pretty solid days, right, Javon Baker, the guy

from Central Florida, stands out to me. Devonte's Walker I thought was a little up and down, but showed that explosive feed, speedy at the fastest GPS time today. Ricky Piersaw, I mean we knew. I mean I think we do a shared Google document talking about draft stuff, like we knew he was going to have a good day. Didn't disappoint. Roman Wilson had a great day. Jacob Cowing had some huge explosive plays in one on one, absolutely dicing people

from the slot, running deep posts. But one of the things that stuck out to me is in that group, you've got Bonix and Michael Pennix, and they were able to throw really accurate deep balls and give their guys opportunities. And you just compare that, junks, suppose that with the second group, which is I think a solid group.

Speaker 1

Of wide receivers guys.

Speaker 2

I was really excited to watch, you know, Jamari Thrash, Tikwan Jackson, Ryan Flora Florio, who is an interesting guy because he was a late ad. I thought he had a great day day. We'll talk about it more later, Johnny Wilson. My favorite receiver in this group is xavierly Get and then Lad mcconclie, who also had a great day. You look at those guys and they did not they in their one on one period they did not complete

a ball deeper than fifteen yards. And there's a great rep today of Johnny Wilson absolutely dicing the corner, does a great job being physical. Johnny Wilson's sixty six thirty five inch arms two hundred and forty pounds.

Speaker 1

He was physical.

Speaker 2

Line of scrimmage, wins down. The field has multiple steps. The ball is overthrown by about five or six yards, and so you see yourself in the first group. Is that an opportunity for Johnny Wilson to show, hey man, I can be a true X receiver or is that just an overthrow? Because Brendan Rice in the first group caught an excellent ball from bow Knicks today. Excellent ball, diving catch, great job, but he got an opportunity to

catch it. And I think when you look at the groups of the receivers, you kind of say, that makes the evaluation for the receivers very, very challenging in my opinion, And I don't really know how to qualify because when this podcast started we were fully ready to say Johnny Wilson had a bad day to day, But then you go back and watch his reps because we were able to record some of it. And you say, actually, not that bad, like in terms of separation, you know, being

physical at to catch point. He ran a great route today that he fell down on. But in terms of like the fundamentals, again, there's some stuff that I think with Johnny Wilson that's interesting. And then how he handles himself in between drills. He's always walking, He's not super jazzed up. That bothers me as a former player, you know, but I think those types of things are why you

come to seenable to see that other stuff. But back to the receiver evaluation, I think it was really really challenging to say receiver group A receiver group for the national roster is better than receiver group B, just because I think the quarterback play is so different. I mean, there was a there was a there was a time period in team in the team period where they just could not complete a pass. Like there the pressure was there from the defensive line, they just can they just

couldn't get it done. So that's something again we're not overreacting to the first day, but after the first day to day, definitely quarterback play is gonna be a big story in terms of evaluating these guys moving forward. And I think that also affects the tight end groups. You know, like the tight end group for the first group for the national roster is guys you've probably never heard of.

It's Theo Johnson, Brevin span Ford, AJ Barnar from Michigan, and Theo Johnson comes out of this and he looks like a really good football player. And at Penn State where he's from, he looked more like a blocking Why here's look he's got. Looks like he's got some pass game upside. And then a guy that I really like, and Jared Wiley had a really good day, very productive and seven on seven in the second group, but they

just didn't have the same opportunity. So a big part of that is the offensive lines too, which we'll talk about in a second. But I think that, to me is something that I'm definitely gonna be keeping an eye on. Can these quarterbacks find a rhythm, find a chemistry. There was a rep today in the it was the last rep of the team period for the national practice. Spencer Ratler wats the line of scrimmage. He looks at Johnny

Wilson gives him the thumbs up. Johnny Wilson runs a go beats the dB and for whatever reason, Spencer Raller does not throw the football, and I'm just like, why, let's get an evaluation on these guys.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

So that was something that was really really frustrating. But again, I think if there's one group of skill players at a group of players, you're like, this group is set, is the is the receivers?

Speaker 1

Man?

Speaker 2

Like they're just everybody's good, Like like Jawan Jackson looks like he's gonna be an excellent slot player. Lad McConkie look like he's gonna be an excellent slot player. Like all of these guys, Like you literally go down the list and it's like, no one had a really bad day.

Speaker 1

I'm trying to think of any go ahead, So if we're going to.

Speaker 4

Go down the list, yeah, let's do that. I mean, if I'm just tuning in, yes, and I haven't done any researcher on.

Speaker 3

This, Yes, who are these guys? Like, so you're mentioning Johnny Wilson, let's just start there, Yeah, okay, very quickly, how would you describe Johnny Wilson? What's his skill set, what's his positives, what's his negatives? That's a great point because you're saying like, oh, he burned. This guy is a burner, but he's huge, Like, so tell us at.

Speaker 1

Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2

So basically, Johnny Wilson's in this very unique scenario and I think he's it's very relevant to the commanders because he's a guy. He's six ' six. I think you wait, I think you waited at two thirty seven. He's got thirty five inch arms, which are longer than most offensive lineman. He he's just a massive human being and everyone's like, should he move to tight end? So with him, a reason I was watching him with the second group is like, is he athletic enough and fast enough to win consistently

versus press coverage at the NFL level? And I feel like he showed an ability to do that at a relatively high level to day, but it wasn't actualized today because the receivers kind of had a tough time. And I think a guy that we need to talk about is Xavier Loget in the same group. Really fast had the highest miles prower of any player in college FOOTBA

last year. I think it was like twenty three miles per hour, which is faster than like Tyreek Hill He had a couple reps today where he is definitively beating the receiver just with pure speed down the field. He's a big guy, six to one, about two hundred and twenty seven pounds, big, thick, aj brown looking guy. Not the most nuanced route rush runner of all time, but a big, physical dude beating guys down the field and

we just couldn't get him the football. And so do I upgrade Lad mcconkney, who's like this five to eleven, one hundred and eighty one hundred and ninety five pound guy from Georgia who's excellent I kind of as a slot receiver because he's able to get open in the short to intermediate level and the quarterback is able to hit him because it's easier.

Speaker 1

Throws or or how do I evaluate that?

Speaker 2

And so that's the thing I'm going to keep an eye on, because you saw the quality you wanted to see from Xavier l Get, but it just wasn't maximized.

Speaker 4

So I love comps, You know this, because I always.

Speaker 1

Ask you, comps, who does this guy look like?

Speaker 4

What does he look like?

Speaker 3

And the reason I do that is because as somebody who isn't in football all the time, right, watching film and grinding the way at it, like you are my guy. I want to say to myself, all right, who is this guy remind me of? So I can visualize somebody that I know? Right, So for Legett, you just said aj Brown, right, And then we were just talking about Johnny Wilson.

Speaker 2

Right, you're, like I said, yeah, like a like a less coordinated Keenan Allen. He's kind of like not super fast, but he's pretty sudden. He understands what he's good at. He uses his long arms like the goat that he got open to day. He grabbed the receiver by the shoulder pads, threw him forward. He was trying to press him up, gets him stacked. Great job, just needs an opportunity on the football. And I think you saw that he ran a dig today, really nice dig, really good

suddenness coming out of the break. The ball is way behind him and he throws those thirty five inch arms back to catch football. So you know, I'm not saying Johnny Wilson had a perfect practice again. I was frustrated by some of the stuff in between drills, some of his effort in blocking things like that, and that's why you're here to watch it, because then again I got you.

Speaker 1

Look at that.

Speaker 2

I was like blown away by from that standpoint, is Ryan Flora. I can't even say as let's same flower, Oh flower oe? How you say it? Look at it Ryan Floyd, That's I'm gonna say it. He but he's from a small school Late Ads, Southeast Missouri, and caught every ball that was thrown him, ran an excellent comeback today, created excellent separation. And the thing this is like nerdy scout stuff, but when you are with a receiver, someone that's not required to block, you get to see how

much they love football. And this dude was absolutely throwing his stuff in there, trying to get after safety's trying to get after debes.

Speaker 1

And I just respect the hell of that.

Speaker 2

Cause because I if I'm betting, if I'm betting on Johnny Wilson, a guy that is very, very talented but doesn't show that effort compared to Ryan from Southeast Missouri, I say to myself, I would bet on Ryan because he can he can develop into a three with special

teams upside, and he's a good football player. And so again that's why that's why you're here is to see how they not only do the big things, which is catching the football release on the route, but how they block, how they do some of that other stuff.

Speaker 3

So so let's do that real quick, all right. So what I want you to do? Okay, and we didn't talk about this in our production meetings, so I'm going to drop this.

Speaker 1

On putch on the spot.

Speaker 3

What I'm going to do is you're going to go down the roster of wide receivers. Yes, right, you know, to say a name you wanna say. All right, here's what this guy did well. Here's why Dan do well. Here's how he could fit with the commanders.

Speaker 1

Okay, I like it right, so real quick, like.

Speaker 4

One one sentence on each one of those or two sentences, like.

Speaker 2

I'm just gonna pick guys that I think we need to talk about because some guys, let's do it. Yeah, okay, So for me, uh, Jacob Cowing from Arizona, small, undersized guy. I think you saw a guy that fits that slot receiver role.

Speaker 1

Kind of kind of like am and Ross Saint Brown, but a little bit smaller, a little bit fat.

Speaker 2

It's a little bit more sudden, kind of like DeShawn Jackson ish in terms of skill set. Saw the deep ball, so you saw his trait, you saw his superpower. And I think that's another thing when you're looking at receivers specifically, is you want to see their trait, their superpower. So cowing speed, quickness, you saw it. Ricky piersall right, a guy that I absolutely loved.

Speaker 1

I loved everything he did.

Speaker 2

He's you know, we watched his film and I my first note was like, he will crush the Senior Bowl because he's super sudden, he's super refined in his routes.

Speaker 1

He's about six foot, he's a.

Speaker 2

Little under two hundred pounds, but he is He's just like this great you can play in the slot. I think he's good enough to play outside as a contested catchability, just a really solid receiver.

Speaker 4

How would he fit one of the commanders?

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's a great question. So to me, it's like he gives you that kind of slot role. So maybe like that Curtis Samuel role if he isn't resigned here. And I think he gives you enough that he could potentially play outside and you can move Jahan and Teary around the formation, so it gives you a little flexibility.

Speaker 4

Is he too much like those two.

Speaker 1

I think he's a that's a I think that's a Really.

Speaker 4

Is he just so talented that's like just put him in there.

Speaker 1

I really like him. I really like him.

Speaker 2

Well, he's a guy that like you just like and I think he's but I do think he is similar to the other guys and so like that's why a guy like uh, Devontes Walker is a guy that's getting a lot of buzz from from scouts for the team because he's got a lot of speed. But again, I think he kind of feels like Diamie Brown the thing when he came in here. He's good at vertical routree. He's excellent at it. He did vertical routrey today. I needed to know if he can run an in cut.

I need to know if he can run a stop. He ran a stop today on cam Hart and cam Hart is a corner for a Notre Dame. He's six to two and ten pounds, big guy. And cam hert ran the rat form and picked the ball off. So you're one opportunity to run something that wasn't a deep vertical post vertical comeback, whatever it is, it didn't go well for you. Again, it's the first day. We're not going to kill these guys. But that's something that that stuck out to me about him.

Speaker 1

And I'm just a guy, just a guy, all right, right, I'm just a guy.

Speaker 4

Here.

Speaker 3

They put up on the board out there a Miles Prower that these guys were running on the field and Walker had the fastest time there, right, so he has that to beat. It was twenty one point eighteen miles.

Speaker 1

Which is out cooking really good.

Speaker 3

Now that being said, and again, I'm just a guy. This is not an analysis. He didn't stand out me like I never went ooh ever that whole day. And again that could be just I don't know what I'm looking at, but he was the fastest guy there. When I saw that up there, I was like, oh really, I didn't like, he didn't do anything.

Speaker 2

And so there was a couple of times like they did that one on one at the end. So that was another thing I liked about the first practice of the national team, the national roster.

Speaker 1

Excuse me.

Speaker 2

They got everyone together and they had callouts. So they had devontees Walker call out. I think it was the cornerback from Penn State, King King. Yeah, and he beat him on a go. The ball wasn't there, but he beat him on to go. So again I liked that he showed me that. But he he's a guy that I need to see, you know, some of that other stuff like So, for example, Brendan Rice today is a guy that I think we absolutely need to talk about.

He's six to two, he's a little under six to two, He's about two hundred, two hundred and fifteen pounds, big guy physical, made some great contested catch today, fought through contact at a high level. He's a guy that feels like he could be that true too for you, right, really complete guy.

Speaker 1

Didn't love that.

Speaker 2

He didn't get a lot of separation, but really high level stuff. And then with the second group, I mean, we got to talk about Jawan Jackson, excellent thought receiver, did a great job there in the same way that like Ricky Pearsow's excellent running routes. This guys like that on steroids like Ricky Pearsaw, gives you some inside outside flexibility. I think Jakwan Jock Jackson excuse me as an inside

player only, but it's excellent at that. We already talked about Ryan from Southeast Missouri did a great job today, Johnny Wilson, we talked about Xavier, Yet we talked about Lad mcconchney was maybe the best receiver in the second group today, Like just super efficient, won every one on one open all the time, super polished guy from Georgia.

Speaker 1

Again that slot role.

Speaker 2

So I think what you're seeing here, there's a whole bunch of guys in my opinion, that can run the slot stuff at a high level. I think, and this is just my assessment, the commanders need another true outside guy.

Speaker 4

So in this Fitzabilli.

Speaker 2

So I think Xavier Leaguet is a guy you'd circle there, Johnny Wilson, if he can answer all these questions over the course of the next couple of days, maybe, right, davontees Walker maybe, and then Brendan Rice would be another big maybe they're Oh and the guy that I forgot And if you don't know this guy, you should definitely write his name down. Javon Baker from Central Florida, six ' one, two hundred and ten pounds an absolute He is like

Johan Donson. If Johan Dotson like lived in the weight room for a year, Like he is big, he's physical, he's got this great nuance. He could be a true one in my opinion.

Speaker 4

You said if Johan Dotson went super silly, that's what's what you said.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's right, that's in the notes. That's what I said.

Speaker 2

Yeah, And so that's that's kind of the vibe you get from him. He's great in contested catch situations. He's super physical. He's a guy that I think at the end of this week, after watching the day and watching his film, could progress into something special, like you might be talking about him at the end of the first round, early second round. And again, Washington's got a couple of picks there, so that would be He's Those kind of four names are guys that I've kind of circled for

outside receiver need. And again I'm not saying Terry's not doing a good job. I'm not saying Johan's doing a good job. But I just say, we love when you look at the playoff pictures and you look at the teams in the playoffs, they have multiple different types of receivers that bring different skill sets and can These are guys that bring different skill sets and I think that's

why we've kind of highlighted them. Again, receiver not a huge need for this team, but adding some depth there and just somebody who can come in and say I've got an excellent fastball, or my curve ball is unbeatable, or my jump ball abilities next level. Right, if Johnny Wilson can show you that, or Devontes Walker if he can just say you can't cover me on a go, I don't care what the score is. Those are the types of qualities we're looking for for that outside guy.

Brendan Rice again, very physical guy on the outside. So that's I think kind of a good way to look at the receivers. And I think the other group we got to talk about is the offensive line.

Speaker 1

What do you want to say? Offensive line?

Speaker 3

Jason, Yeah, let's go offensive line. I was going to ask a quick question. The question being we mentioned the quarterback play was you know, neither here nor there. We're not going to overreact state one, like we said, and everybody's.

Speaker 4

New with each other.

Speaker 1

They take good tight.

Speaker 3

So how much of that second group would you say was all right? Quarterback play may not have been there, but these corners there is some good corner play there too. That played into that because the what was that? The who went second? That was the American roster went second. Yeah, National roster ones No, no, no, American they went second. So they look like they had a better defense.

Speaker 1

They just looked.

Speaker 3

So let's talk about those corners. We're talking about wide receivers. What are some of the corners, what'd you see from them? And then we'll go to line.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so the corners were interesting in this group because, like I thought, some guy like Andrew Phillips from Kentucky stuck out to me as a guy that was very competitive, but he's the guy that gets speaked by Johnny Wilson on the deep ball.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

I thought he did a great job like that kind of clicking close ability, hyper aggressive, you know, kind of a junkyard dog mentality at the cornerback position.

Speaker 1

Thought he did a great job with that.

Speaker 2

And then I think the thing that again sticks out to me is the safety from Maryland from Miami. We got to talk about him, Cameron Kitchens. I thought he lost a route to Jakwan Jackson in the one on ones, but he's his closing ability was so on point. Like so basically for people who don't know, like in one on ones, basically you play the defense like you've got help middlefield safety help, right, And so when the receiver runs across the formation, they're technically running to your help

or the help would be in the defense. So if you win on a crossing route, it's kind of like so if you went on a basic or like a like I'm pushing to ten and I'm cutting in, that's.

Speaker 1

A legitimate route. If I'm winning on a route where.

Speaker 2

I'm running like at an angle across the field, it's a little bit of a bastardization of the drill because you're kind of running to where there should be somebody to play. And so on this rep with with camera Kitchens, great click and close, closed the window nice and tight on lad Maconkey, and the ball was completed. But I'm like, that's a win that that's a win technically for that football player, and that's something.

Speaker 1

That you he pushed to the help which.

Speaker 2

Isn't there because it's a one on one, you know. So I think I think that's excellent. But I think the the thing in the team period that stuck out to me is just how much better that defensive line was. Obviously, the corners did a great job. They were very competitive at the catch point all day and I think that's the thing is the quarterbacks in that second group, you know, your Spencer Rattlers, your Joe Milton's, your your Pratts, all those guys, they kind of gave the DB's opportunities to

make plays on the ball. And also the other thing I will say is I don't know who the coaches for the American team, but they were very okay with a lot of defensive pass interference. And so I think that's also something I want to see from the receivers is how do you handle that kind of stuff?

Speaker 1

You know?

Speaker 2

So but yeah, So to me, it's the quarters are going to get a lot of credit because they kind of kept the receivers in check. But to me, it's the it's the it's the defensive line, where for that group specifically just looked incredibly incredibly dynamic, incredibly physical, Like it was a noticeable difference between the American roster and

the national roster in terms of just physical size. I mean you pointed out like right when they came on the field, He's like, look at Sweat, look at all these big.

Speaker 4

Big Sweat is a large man.

Speaker 2

He is a large man. Who's who's what would he say? He's got a pretty good get off. Know what, how do we characterize that? He's got a he can get off for a little bit of time. He's quick, been short.

Speaker 4

Bursts, he's very scary for two seconds.

Speaker 2

Yeah, for two seconds there. He's got some good twitch to him. And then so he was one piece and he's and if you don't know who that is, he's from Texas.

Speaker 1

He's I think he's six ' four.

Speaker 2

He's he didn't weigh in, which tells me he's probably about four hundred pounds.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so he threes sixty four is what we had him at.

Speaker 3

Well, we had him at but then he was he did all the other measurables here.

Speaker 4

It's set weight.

Speaker 1

Yes, so he's like, not yet, yeah, not yet.

Speaker 2

And obviously defensive tackle McKinley Jackson from Texas A and M six on three point thirty one I thought had an excellent TATIONE. So think about those two guys. You come out here for the Senior Bowl man, you're you're excited to show off in front of scouts. You get a guy who's close to four hundred pounds in sweat, and you get McKinley, who is again three hundred and thirty one pounds and he's six one. He's built like a fire hydrant. There was a play where someone cut him.

He put his hand on the ground and his legs just were under him immediately like because he was so like his his proportions are such. So those are the two d defensive tackles. Darius Robinson, number six from Missouri is six five to ninety. He's your defensive end.

Speaker 4

So we need to talk about defensive end.

Speaker 3

Do you know the commanders, Yes, that's right, we need it. So give us the defensive end here. Tell us who these guys are, how they would fit with us, what we're looking at from him. There are a lot of good ones out there.

Speaker 2

There are a lot of really fantastic ones, and I think in the second group it was just a physical group. But I want to say, we don't really know exactly what we're looking for yet because we don't have the head coach. But I'm looking for good football players, right, and so we probably don't need defensive tackle. Maybe we have a defensive tackle depth piece, right, but that'll probably happen later. But for me, this guy Darius Robinson from Missouri fits the bill because I think he can stand

up in a three four. He can play a five technique if you want him to. He rushed inside today during one on ones and killed some guards. He rushed on the edge with great power, great runway. So I like that flexibility on the defensive line.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

He's big, he's physical, he's nasty, he finished hard.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

I think today he made himself some money. I thought maybe he'd sneaking the day three and you kind of fall into some you know, really nice. I think he might be a top of Day two guy now, but but off a one day because the thing about that is it supports it's supported by his film. He plays

that way on film. So you bring him here, you say, oh, is he going to be able to match up with this level of competition, you know, the guidance of the world, all these different guys, and he looked like one of the better players on the field.

Speaker 4

It is he remind you of give me that comp.

Speaker 2

One down there, I mean lazy. So basically what he reminds me of is he's he's two ninety six five to ninety's like rocked up, so like he reminds me of like a like a superhero, you know, but he plays like a super villain if that makes sense.

Speaker 4

So love it.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So he's like he's like i'd say, he plays kind of like Montes Sweat if Montes Sweat was too ninety, you know what I mean, physical through your face. Like I just enjoyed watching him play today a lot.

Speaker 1

And uh, and I.

Speaker 2

Think he's very, very physically talented. But again, this guy's like, uh, he's one of the guys. Chris Braswell from Alabama. I thought did a great job today, Like he had a rep versus Patrick Paul today. Patrick Paul is the biggest man here at the event. He's six seven, he's three thirty, he's got thirty six inch arms. He's from Houston. Everybody's kind of circled him as their potential fast riser, a guy that could push into the early second round. I

see a lot of technical deficiencies with his game. And Braswell is not a big man. You know, he played stand up outside lambert backer at at Alabama. He's six threes too. He's heavy weight, heavier than I thought. He's two fifty seven, so a bigger guy than I thought. But plays with great power. And so first rep you're going against a mountain and he just walked him back into the quarterback and so I say, like, that is

showing again, what's your superpower, what's your trait? You know, we saw with Darius Robinson the ability to play outside inside with great power and great explosive, with great, great effort. And Chris braswell, you're a power rusher. Can you rush pass rush with power and NFL style body? And that was something that I thought he showed today, you know. And then in the first group, you got a bunch of guys who I thought so while there was a lot of guys, and then we also got to mention

Miles Cole from Texas Tech. Big physical, long guy, very twitchy, but again six five two eighty five thirty five inch arms, kind of these big freaks. I don't know if they did that on purpose. But the second group just had these monstrous defensive players, especially on the defensive line that we're able to compress pockets at a really high level and made a challenging for the for the American roster offense to be successful.

Speaker 1

But think about the group.

Speaker 2

In the morning, how they're much more like pass rush specific You got a lot too, lots to a guy that we've talked about a lot he is. I mean watching him do bag drills, watching him pass rush. Dude, he reminds me of Jared Allen in the sense I played against Jared Allen.

Speaker 1

There's certain pass rushes you.

Speaker 2

Play against that don't have bones in their body, and he doesn't have bones. Like you go to punch him and he's just able to give at the right time, duck at the right time, bend at the right time.

Speaker 3

So is his comp like a waterfall. It's like it's so smooth but powerful.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, it's exactly right. And so Talisi Fuaga got after him today. But don't let that one rep you're going to see on Twitter take away from his day. Like he is just to me, he's probably the best defensive player in the draft potentially.

Speaker 4

So where would he potentially go in the draft?

Speaker 1

That's a great question.

Speaker 4

Give me like a range. Is he mid first round or early first round or is it?

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, I'll give you range.

Speaker 2

So in my mock, he would be the he'd go he'd go nine to whoever I had him going to. I forget what it was, but let me explain. Yeah, go ahead, So talent wise, film wise nine, Okay, he's excellent, he might not test great, Like I think he'll test fine. I don't think he'll test exceptionally well. He also has

extreme extreme medical concerns, extreme medical concerns. He medically retired from U DUB with a neck issue, was set out of football for two years and then couldn't get cleared by Cow because the medical issue was so significant, and then the UCLA cleared him.

Speaker 1

So he played the full year.

Speaker 2

And he's fine from what I understand, But he will get pushed down draft boards because of that, because a lot of teams will have a fail grade on him, like a red grade. It means they won't draft him.

Speaker 3

So Commander is centric, Yes, right, number two overall pick, you're not taking him there, not taking them there right, assuming that where it's staying at number two, Yeah, chances of us getting this guy pretty thin. We'd have to move up for it, or we'd have to trade back into because he's in that weird spot where like he's not going to fall to the second round for us, and we're too high to take a chance on somebody that has that medical history.

Speaker 4

That's what you're saying.

Speaker 2

Yeah, So what I would say is, like you've got Jared Verse from Florida State, he'll probably go ahead of him, and then Dallas Turner from Alabama will probably go ahead of him. So maybe he slips down into a spot where, hey, at thirty five, we're really fortunate we have a top ten talent who's here at thirty five. I personally think a team will take a shot on him before then because the film's so good. But again, you never know. He is kind of in that no man's land between.

I think he's a top ten pick. But let's say, for example, the medical he doesn't test well, he's still going to go in the first one.

Speaker 4

We've had people with medical concerns drop that.

Speaker 1

Montesoat's a great example. Yea.

Speaker 3

Yeah, So it's possible that if he falls far enough, maybe we're trading up or trading that we don't. I just want to preface this, we don't know anything about what our organization's going to do. Direct all speculating, right, but like that's what's fun to do with leading up to their draft, is trying to guess what we could do to get these top players that we're seeing here. Right, So, medical, maybe he falls down, Maybe the commanders go, we really need an edge.

Speaker 4

Let's take it, let's take a chance. We move up. So you're saying, like he's he's a really good player.

Speaker 2

He's a really good player, good player, and he looks it and he's here, he looks at.

Speaker 4

Jared Allen's a great cop man.

Speaker 2

That's yeah. So guy with no bones, So that's always good. But again there's other guys that rush the passer well, like Brendan McGregor from Michigan is a guy that reminds me a lot of like Aiden Hutchinson.

Speaker 1

Like he's big, he's.

Speaker 2

Tall, he's like six ' five, he's like two seventy stand up edge, had a great power move today on the tackle. He is a guy that again is probably going to be there when the commanders are picking right. And then you've got a guy like Javon Solomon, who is this really tiny, undersized stroutger. He's six foot, he's two forty. He looks like he's two fifty. Excuse he looks like James Harrison a little bit, but has a

lot of pass rush juice. So if you're looking for a rotational guy that adds some pass rush juice, kind of like like huff up in with the new York Jets. He would be an interesting pick, I think, so they are, there are pieces there that'll be there later. I think another guy is Marshaun Keelan from Western Michigan six ' three, two sixty eight, good power, good solid football player. So

there all are these guys. The problem with good solid football players, at least them showing at the Senior Bowl, is they're gonna go in the second round, so you're gonna have to use probably thirty five or thirty eight on that player in terms of making sure you allocate one of the guys we just talked about outside of outside of latou Lat too. All those other guys I mentioned are guys that are are viable there. Right Miles Cole I think is probably more of a third or

fourth round guy. But the way that Darius Robinson played today, one hundred percent available on the board, I think as a player, right, Marshall Keelan one hundred percent. Javon Solomon later but obviously pass Rush Juice Brad McGregor feels like a second maybe third round player.

Speaker 1

So that's kind of what you're talking about there.

Speaker 3

So with five picks in the first three rounds, Yeah, for Washington and you won.

Speaker 4

An edge, right, assuming.

Speaker 3

That that's what they want to go with here. Not in the first round, right, and let's say we're talking more second, third round. Yeah, who would be the guy's like, Hey, we're gonna just watch this guy. Yeah right, not we should take him because we don't know yet.

Speaker 4

I don't know based on what.

Speaker 3

We seen' let's take a look at this guy. Could be a good find in the late second, early.

Speaker 2

Third, late second, So I would say a late second, early third, that's tough man. I think Javon Solomon he caught my eye a little bit today, which I was excited about. Again, not an every down player, but with enough juice. So you say, hey, man in the right role, in the right situation, in the right rotation, could be a you know, seven to ten sac guy, which is incredible.

Speaker 4

What about him stuck out that is incredible.

Speaker 2

Yeah, It's just there's certain guys that have it as pass rushers, Right, so when you watch a lot two dudes got no bones, Like he looks amazing, right and he gets but all pass rushers get got but his ability.

He had a rep on Morgan, who again is a first round tackle from Arizona where he just Morgan goes to punch him, he just dips his chops, the hand, dips the shoulder, plants the foot, his shoulders at Morgan's hip, and then he just works around the corner and probably would have gotten a sack and it just looked easy for him, right. So with Javon Solomon, you see some of the same stuff. It's stylistically it's a little bit different. It's a little bit more kind of kind of these boundy,

explosive steps. But he's able to kind of set the line of the tackle, adjust the line of the tackle, and then work edges at a high level, you know, with with good power and rip to finish, which again some of those shorter pass rushers have the ability to do. So I think he's an interesting one. A guy that we didn't talk about. Where's his name on here, the kid from Penn State.

Speaker 1

Isaac Isaac, I thought flashed something to me today. So again, not a first round guy.

Speaker 2

Maybe in that top second, maybe he slides down a little bit because he's a little bit stiff. But I think he's a really good football player and he's got some explosive qualities to them that make you say, hey, so I came into this process at the Senior Bowl and thinking if they don't get an edge in the first round, they're going to be kind of in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 1

But I think we've just talked about.

Speaker 2

Five, six, seven guys that are second and third round players that add value and have some flexibility to play different positions on the defensive line. So I think that's how I would look at that group. But again that the group specifically with the national roster, that big physical or to excuse me, with the American roster, that big physical group really stuck out today. They almost dominated all of my vision today because they were just so physical

upfront against that offensive line. Again, Washington needs some offensive linements. Maybe go maybe go there next? What do you think?

Speaker 4

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Absolutely, yeah, let's move to offensive line. I want our listeners to know that we know linebacker is important. Safety is important. We touched on corner a little bit. We're gonna we're doing this the next few days and then we're going to have another pod that's like a big recap at the Senior Bowl and everything a big review. So we'll touch on those positions, I promise. But for the sake of I'm a brevity's let's do a line.

Speaker 2

Okay, And it's important to note just for the fans, that these drills they favor defensive linemen and they favor.

Speaker 1

Receivers, so they're easier to see those reps. Right.

Speaker 2

It's hard for dbs to win the one on ones. It's harder for offensive lineman to win and one on one. So when the offensive line do win them and again offensive lineman, they get more one on one reps.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

They kind of like you were out there today, They just rapid fire through them, one after another, the receivers and the dbs. It takes them a long time, so you don't get the volume. But we do have some guys that we like and they we're excited about. It's just it's harder to evaluate them in this setting like this. To me, if if you're if you're a defensive lineman, offensive lineman, receiver, tight end, you know, offensive skill player.

This is for you defensively, it can be very challenging to be successful here.

Speaker 3

You said something to Fred on the last Command Center. Yeah, not the podcast to show which everybody can check out on YouTube. It's the one where you guys are at the fire pit. If you want to find this conversation looking at with Fred. But you said, like, the hardest thing to evaluate is the DB's and Fred looked at you all funny because Fred's a dB and he thought you were taking a shot at him.

Speaker 4

But you're not.

Speaker 3

Because one of the things I'm trying to do is producing this is I'm trying to just watch as much film as I can, not because I know anything, but because I want to have an idea of who you're talking about, right, just so I can picture somebody in my head.

Speaker 4

And you're exactly right, because the.

Speaker 3

Thing it's for me, it was highlights are the only thing that really work, work because if the ball doesn't go to them, that may be a win. But nobody cuts those highlights for you. Nobody cuts, oh he didn't target over here and the quarterback me and not thrown over there because blanket coverage is great coverage. So who's watching through games to see a if that's the read be what type of coverage that is and see if the corner was so locked on him the ball doesn't

go there and saying oh that's a great play. It's the same sort of thing here to me, right, Like I don't the one on ones. Yes, but like you said, I would have never have known that like that route.

Speaker 4

In Yeah, well he's pushing the help.

Speaker 3

So that guy caught the ball and it looks like, oh he got the dB on that one on one, but the DB's pushing the help. Like that's exactly the right technique you want to see, right, and I wantn't know that. So well, all of this to say is that dB is a very deep conversation. Yeah, and it's like it's just difficult for me to understand. So I'm going to ask you a lot about that and we'll do that in the next few days.

Speaker 2

And again, it's it's hard to do dB because like think about targets like target share, Like you go through PFF metrics and you'll have a guy who's been targeted over the course of a season. So in the NFL, we're talking eighteen games, sometimes with the playoffs, it's more than that. You're talking thousands of snaps and they'll have

twenty targets, thirty targets, forty targets. That's forty plays for you to like evaluate because like they it's unlike an offensive lineman or a running back, like they're getting the ball, they're in the path they're in, They're in the thick of it, right, and with defensive backs, And I've heard this from scouts across every every team I've been on,

is because they just don't get the play volume. And so here it's tough too, because they don't get the play volume because of the rotations and because of how the practices are structured. So we're gonna try and get our best evaluation. Know, I talked about cam Heart's interception, did a great job on that, but that's one play.

Speaker 1

So how did he do for the rest of practice? Harder to discern?

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's where we need Fred.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we just need Fred, need Fred, right, and for cam Heart, that's a great example. I know we're getting sidetracked, but that's what I do. I get sidetracked a LADYHD.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

So they were in cover three. Someone completes an out on him. But am I mad at him for letting the out get completed in cover three?

Speaker 1

No?

Speaker 2

Like, that's the hook player's responsibility. So how do you grade that. We're gonna work on it. We'll figure something out.

Speaker 4

Let's talk about O line.

Speaker 3

And there was a guy that really stood out, but don't say his name. This is called a tease. We're gonna talk about some alignment. But there was a guy that like really shot out. We're going to talk about him last. Okay, Okay, So go through these and then we'll let you know who was like.

Speaker 2

The guy really good. So let me see we are with the Let's start with the American roster. Okay, So the American roster, it was a bunch of guys that I was really no, let's start with.

Speaker 1

The national roster.

Speaker 2

Excuse me, gosh, I'm all over the place here, Jason. So the first guy that I want to talk about is King Lee Kingsley Sumataia and he's from BYU. A little bit of a developmental guy, but a guy that I thought, with his great physicality, did some really good stuff today. Kind of bodied up defenders, got in front of guys, handled the bull rush again, not overly technically sound necessarily, but a guy that stuck out to me from a physical presence type of standpoint.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 2

Then there's the big dog Talisi Fuaga, who everyone's going to be talking about Oregon State. I have him, honestly as a top ten pick. I have him as my second tackle in the entire draft. Really good football player, just kind of a weird build, got shorter arms, thirty three inch arms, But love the physicality, loved the mindset. I want to see a little bit more from him as the week goes on in terms of that physicality

I saw at Oregon State. To me, it looks like he's still trying to kind of figure stuff out, figure out like what he's good at, figure out what he's comfortable with in terms of the new offense that he's learning.

Speaker 1

So that's something I'm going to keep an eye on. Jordan Morgan.

Speaker 2

Another guy is a guy that is everyone has very high on their boards, but I think is very technically raw. I think he's a guy that has a little bit of developing to do. But I thought he showed some good development. So all the kind of rawness on his film, I know he's been working with a personal a line coach. Thought he looked a lot better today and hopefully he looks better for the rest of the week. And then a guy that absolutely dominated on the interior was Jackson Powers.

Johnson he's three hundred and twenty pounds, is that right? Three hundred and twenty ish pounds and he plays center and guard and basically one all of us one on ones and looks very confident doing it. Hard to see

in the teamwork because he gets mixed in it. But here at the at the Senia Bowl, if you win one on ones and you're that dude, like, that's impressive, and I think he just he really stuck out from that standpoint, and a guy that I'm excited to watch more of as the week goes on, because you know, he's probably the number one center on a lot of guys boards. But it's always fun to kind of see those guys develop as the week.

Speaker 1

As the week goes on. So that's the national roster.

Speaker 2

Good good tackles, and you know those are kind of honestly like probably the higher graded group. Maybe we'll see Tyler g guy that I like a lot in the second group. Converted tight end went to Oklahoma sixty seven, three hundred and twenty pounds. And you see the transition of position here, right. You see a tremendous athlete. You

see a guy who moves exceptionally well. You see a guy that scouts and coaches are going to just fall in love with because he's so big and he's so athletic but still learning some of the finer points of the position. I thought he had some really competitive reps today.

We talked about the defensive line, how physical they were, and you know, I thought he had a couple reps so they could have been better, but I thought he had a couple of reps where he looked really physically in control, which for a guy that's gonna potentially be a first round pick, I think is pretty exciting. Del Mar Glaize from Maryland is a guy that had a very quiet day, but a very consistent day. I thought

he was very consistent with his pass sets. They did like a one on one run drill where I thought he was able to kind of create some good bend, create some good movement. And then a guy that I was lower on, Javon Foster out of Missouri, I thought, again showed some of the issues that I had with him today, but I thought was more competitive at this

level than I thought he would be. He's six ' five, three hundred and ten pounds, thirty five inch arms, so a guy that you look at the frame, you say, man, everything's on the table for him.

Speaker 1

Very exciting.

Speaker 2

And then another guy, Patrick Paul I'm sure a lot of you guys have heard of him.

Speaker 1

He's from Houston.

Speaker 2

He's six seven, three hundred thirty pounds, thirty six hitch arms guy that I was not super stoked on and because of some technical issues I saw in his pass sets and stuff, and some of that stuff came out today. I thought in one on one is probably his first three or four to one on ones in pass protection. Just couldn't quite get his bearings right. Braswell bullshed him the next d Ligneman bulls him, and he couldn't in college.

Speaker 1

He was so big.

Speaker 2

He would just basically open up his hands, let you run down his middle and he would just grab you. At this level, these guys are too explosive, they're too powerful. That's one where you say the frame is there, the physicality is there. Of he had probably the best one on one run blocking rep today. Fit his guy up and kept his feet moving like he wasn't there and literally in a one on one drill. I can't explain to your heart this says drove him five yards off

the ball. It was an incredible rep. But that's that's also colored by these really bad misses. So he's a guy has it all physically over the next three days, can he figure it out and handle some of these stronger guys.

Speaker 4

So the Commander's offensive line as it currently.

Speaker 3

Is, Yes, you got a dog with cosmia garden dog, right, he's I think PFF.

Speaker 4

Had him rated is like if not the eye as one of the eyes guards.

Speaker 1

Over the last eight weeks of this season. Is the highest graded guard in the NFL.

Speaker 4

Yeah, and he was playing against some good guys.

Speaker 3

Yeah, probably looking for tackle, you would think, right, if you're gonna go O line, that's where you want.

Speaker 1

That's why I focus that on.

Speaker 3

So a lot of these guys play tackle in college, but they don't always translate.

Speaker 4

The tackle here in the NFL. They end up being guards.

Speaker 3

So if you want to tackle, it's the history shows that you have to. You have to get one pretty early. So again we're at number two. Yeah, probably not taking a tackle. So who here do you think of these guys that stood out? Are you like they could come and be a part of this offensive line with the commanders? Really help us out, Like is there any are they all depth pieces right that we're talking about right now? Like, give me the evaluation on how they would fit in on this team day one.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I think you know, obviously I mentioned Fuaga is probably gonna be a first round guy, like not, probably is gonna be first after the second round, after the second overall pick. Right, then you've got Tyler Guidon, who I bet by the end of this week, if he develops the way people anticipate him developing with the higher level of competition, is going to be gone. Right, So that leaves a very different type of player, you know.

It leaves like Kingsley Sue Mattia, who is very good but a little bit raw, and I think fans are going to freak out and be like, oh my gosh, we can't take a raw guy too. The NFL, this process is about projecting. So does this guy have the traits to get you there? And I think he does, right, I think he's got the traits. It's just about does he get with the right alliant coach and does he develop the way you want him to? Because I do

think he definitely could do that, right. He's definitely big enough, he's definitely athletic enough. Technically, there are some issues there. Another developmental guy is Ethan Driscoll from Marshall. He's six. I think he's six eight. He's like three p thirty, big, long, tall guy, looks like a basketball player honestly figuring it out with this level of competition. Lost a rep in his one on one today, But I think there's enough movement skills that he could be like a Spencer Brown.

And Spencer Brown has been the starting right tackle for the Buffalo Bills for the last five years so or of the last four years. So there is that guy too. I think a guy that sticks out to me is a guy that we were saving. We'll save him for a second. But del Mar Glaize I think is pretty polished. I think he's a good enough athlete. It just depends on how how motivated is to be great, Like that's his thing for.

Speaker 1

Me when I watch him.

Speaker 2

Javon Foster developmental the guy from Missouri again, Paul Patrick or Patrick Paull.

Speaker 1

Excuse me.

Speaker 2

As a guy, you'd say, yes, physically, that's the guy we want, that's the right tackle of the future. But I think he needs to be with the right kind of a line coach. I think he needs an elite O line coach to get him there, and when he's there, his ceiling is so high, He's probably got one of the higher ceilings of this group.

Speaker 4

It's just what gives him that high ceiling.

Speaker 2

That's a great question. So I think, to me, it's the length. You just can't coach his frame. He's six seven, he's three thirty. He's got thirty six inch arm, which would have been the longest arms of the combine last year. And when with that length, you can be so disruptive to tackles, and I think you see that with Dwan Jones last year. Dewan's Jones would just use his length disrupt the pass rusher's flow.

Speaker 4

He was on Cleveland by the way.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he played for Cleveland. Did such a great job of that and did a great job throughout the process of showing you that on film. It's not something that every person with long arms is good at, which is why I think that's a huge projection to be like, this guy is going to be good because of his frame. He needs to learn how to use his frame. And again we saw that today with the physicality and the run reps, and today's only a first day.

Speaker 1

But what does that look.

Speaker 2

Like moving forward would be my question, and does he developed and then the guy can we talk about our hidden guests, let's do.

Speaker 3

It, let's do it, and how he fits in the commanders, how we could potentially get him.

Speaker 2

So we're talking about so we're talking about guys that are good, good value second round picks. Right, And to me, I had Christian Jones in this group when I did my ev ouse.

Speaker 1

So he's played at.

Speaker 2

Christian Jones from Texas six ' six three point fifteen kind of your perfect right tackle. Played a lot of football in college, very technically sound, and for me, with offensive lineman, I always bet on that technical acumen almost more than anything because it's like a martial art. Right, the more times I throw a punch, the more times I understand distance. He's had a lot of reps doing that. And today you saw that people tried to beat him with speed. He was able to find his angle and

punch his hands. People try to beat him with power. He's able to set his anchor at a high level. Right, And again I'm talking about what's his name, Darius Robinson, who was absolutely assassinating people with his power. Rush Christian Jones gets up there, and Christian Jones is not a.

Speaker 1

Huge He's a big guy. He's a wide body guy.

Speaker 2

But he's not heavy, so you're like, how's he going to sink and absorb this contact? And he he ate like it was sin him ntol his crunch man like he was like, oh you good, I'm good. Let's do it again.

Speaker 4

Is that what they mean when they anchor?

Speaker 1

Yes?

Speaker 2

Right, it's the ability like you'll see tons. Yeah, it's like your ability to sink your hips and leverage yourself below that bull rushing player. So a lot of guys have a really hard time with that, and I feel like Kingsley Suamatia has a hard time with that. He's just so damn big and heavy that he's able to kind of eat that up. But Christian what's his last name, Christian Jones does it with great technique, and again that just comes with reps.

Speaker 1

And so it's a first day.

Speaker 2

He might have a terrible day tomorrow. But that jumps out to you on film when you watch it because in college he's very technically sound. He understands the angle at a high level. Here, he understands the angle and technically had to sit that bull very well. And I think if you want a guy that's approximately plug and play, that's about as close as you're gonna get outside of the you know, the Guidans, the.

Speaker 1

Jordan, the Josh.

Speaker 2

Morgan's right, those guys that are like the fringe first round guys, because those guys will go early because the potential, the athletic potential. Christian Jones not the same athlete, not the same frame, but very technically sound and I think a guy that fits right in that window for the Washington Commanders, depending on offensive scheme obviously.

Speaker 3

Yeah, when watching today, we were sitting with our staff writer z act So who Lineman himself.

Speaker 1

He was, yeah, Freeman, people talking about him and.

Speaker 3

He was he was just he was pretty impressed. And the two of you were just all about Christian Jones day, very very excited for him.

Speaker 2

I'm trying to remember the last rep, so last rep of the day was they kind of everyone had gone through, and so we talked about, you know how Darius Robinson had this really solid physical day. There was just this intimidation factor when he's on the field, and so he had gone down the line and Christian Jones had of got against them, and so he had done a great job against Miles Cole who's big and physical and twitchy

but not the same animal. So they on the last rep of one on ones, they brought out, you know, Darius Robinson and Christian Jones and we're like, let's see this, and it was like you kind of could feel the electricity in the air. Big collision and you're like, oh, and you could see Jones kind of set his anchor down.

And I loved what Robinson did. He tried to transition the outside soulder right away, which is a great move, right you sit the guy down, you make him stop his feet the offensive tackle, and then you are moving forward. So you transition off and with a big power rusher like that, it's deadly. She should work every time. Jones felt it kicked one more time, got right back in front of him and the pocket was collapsing.

Speaker 1

But it's that's four or five.

Speaker 2

That's four seconds, and so that little move there, You're like, it gives me chills just thinking about it, right, because it's so hard to do that, especially with someone who was as dominant from a power standpoint as Darius Robinson won.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you could feel that everybody was excited for that one on one. Wide receiver one on ones were going on at the same time. People weren't watching that. They were watching this every year because these were the two guys that were clearly having the best day and finally getting to see the match up and it was it was a collision. Like you said, it was impressive.

Speaker 2

And it wasn't like and it wasn't just us, like the guys in front of us stop watching one on one.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we had guys from the Chargers and the Vikings were.

Speaker 2

Right, they kind of migrated over and then everyone like it wasn't like us. But everyone's like, oh, look at that.

Speaker 4

Like you can hear it, Yeah, you could hear it.

Speaker 2

It was kind of one of those moments in the day where were like, oh, that's pretty exciting. And so hopefully he can continue that because he's gonna make himself a lot of money Christian Jones and Darius Robinson for that if they keep going that way.

Speaker 3

Yeah, and Selby, I don't know if it's out yet by the time this podcast goes out, but he does a nice little write up evaluating some of the playoffs today.

Speaker 1

He is a good senior Bowl.

Speaker 3

He'll put that on Commanders dot Com and he talks about Christian Jones and like I said, as a former alignman himself. He's got, he's got, he's got some good insights to you guys. Make sure you check out Selby on Commanders dot Com and his right up.

Speaker 2

Selby because he played the position is very very hard on those guys. And I'd be remiss, I to be remiss if we didn't give a shout out to uh Javion Cohen from Miami number fifty four, another one of those guys like Christian Jones, who every time the bell

was called right, he just answered it right. We talked about McKinley Jackson, We talked about Sweat, Devontre Davante Sweat, Davante Javan No, what's his name to Vandre Sweat, There we go, and how they were just kind of murdering everybody all day and he was a guy inside at guard and again maybe not the biggest need for the Commanders, but had another one of those days where he was like, Oh, you want to challenge me, let's go.

Speaker 1

Oh we're doing team run. I'm going to finish.

Speaker 2

And so it's I think it's cool that a guy that wasn't necessarily on my radar comes out and looks like maybe the best guard of the day.

Speaker 1

So that's always foe too.

Speaker 4

Absolutely, just wrapping up.

Speaker 3

I know you kind of did this real quick again, we're going to be back tomorrow, We're going to be back Thursday with podcasts recapping the days, and then we'll have a big one. So there's plenty of content coming up. But just real quick for the next two days. Again, you said at the beginning.

Speaker 1

Don't over react, to react the first day, don't.

Speaker 3

Do it all right, So who are guys that you want to keep your eye on, give me, give me three or four keep your eye on from a Washington perspective these next two days.

Speaker 2

So I would say obviously Christian Jones, he's earned that right today after today, he deserves that because like if he's going to be if we're going to pick him at thirty eight, like he's going to have another excellent two days, and I think he, but he's gonna have to have two more good days. Patrick Paul another guy. Can he figure it out over the next couple days. So those are two offensive linemen, right defensive line.

Speaker 1

Edge guys.

Speaker 2

We talked about Robinson, I think that self explanator, but kind of guy like Miles Cole, the Texas Tech defensive end. Can he show a development over these next couple of days and play to what his athletic traits seem to think they should.

Speaker 1

Play play at right?

Speaker 2

Braswell might sneak into the first round. But if he can show that consistent power day in and day out, I think that's exciting. James Williams, the linebacker from Miami. They converted him from safety to linebacker. He had an excellent tackle in the whole today, super physical off the transition like pop, Everyone's down, everyone cheers, everyone's really excited. Can he continue to handle the physicality of that position.

And then obviously the three receivers I think we're going to be looking at our you know, Lagette, devontees Walker and Johnny Wilson. Can one of those guys show they have that elite eyes profile and the work ethic to say I and then Brendan Rice in terms of that big outside X receiver. So those are the guys that I kind of just they're still circled in my book. Can we does some of their success continue? Do they develop? All those receivers were talking about, they still need to develop.

They still need to show me something. Except for Brendan Rice, it was great today, but you know, first day, but those kind of group of ten definitely guys I'm watching over the.

Speaker 1

Next couple of days.

Speaker 4

Dude, this is so much fun.

Speaker 1

It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it's not a fun and sunburn, Yeah, a lot of sunburn. That's I got to get some mallow, right.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that was a rookie move on my part too though.

Speaker 1

I got a nice little sunglass tailand right here.

Speaker 3

But yeah, super excited for what we're doing just with ticket to the Draft. Thanks see geek yep forgetting us out. You're the best seat in the house. The best way to get that is through Sea Geek. But we really do appreciate that logan. You're going to be going all the way through Senior Bowl, You're going to be at the Combine and we're going to do this at the Combine podcast every day talking about that all. We're taking you all the way up to when the Commanders are on the clock.

Speaker 1

That's exactly right, and then we're going.

Speaker 4

To evaluate afterwards.

Speaker 3

Right, So this is a big, big year for the Commanders in the draft. New head coach coming soon, Adam Peters in here. We're just we're super excited to be with the fans going all the way up through this and your expert analysis.

Speaker 2

I don't know if it's we're getting expert, We're we're getting there, we're regressing towards expert each and every time we watch somebody. But it's a fun group and it's always fun coming here and just seeing guys have the opportunity. You know, I get all nostalgic thinking about it. It's just like this cool thing where guys are changing their lives each and every day out of practice. So hopefully

that continues and just really exciting. And you know, please like and subscribe to this podcast where we get your podcast.

Speaker 3

Right, Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Uh tomorrow I'm going to do a quick tease tomorrow Trevor Sikama from PFF we'll be on this podcast. Right We're going to interview him after the first team practice, but we're going to talk to

him all commanders. Everything we're is going to be commanders focused, right about what he's seen in the Senior Bowl, some of these guys, these prospects, what they couldn't mean for us as an organization, and uh, you're gonna have a great chat with him because he gets really nerdy too.

Speaker 1

I hope so yeah, he does get really excited.

Speaker 3

So make sure you guys tune into this podcast. We'll definitely we'll have Trevor Sikimo in there. Then we'll have Day three a recap pod. That recap pod pod will also go on YouTube, so make sure you subscribe to our Commander's YouTube page. Hick the Like and subscribe here. Leave comments, I'll read them. I'll ask Logan your questions.

Speaker 2

Well, guys, that'd be super helpful. Actually, yeah, what do you give him to Jason the comments? That's incredibly important, all right, Logan, all right, man, Yeah, another day until tomorrow

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