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We're working today. I work, work, work, work, work. Ain't nothing wrong with that, man. And we were talking about this All Star game man, because I'm torn.

You wanna go ahead, just get into it?

Why not? Man, gotta do it because it's some damn miss Okay, Let's be honest. I come from the generation of Mike L. Joy Okay versus Dominique in the slam

Well, you know, it's a good question, and I don't know why I have a theory or too. Number one is these dudes are all friends now, which is fine. They all hang out on a banana boat and which is okay.

But back in the day and I'm you know, I'm kind of an old head.

But Jordan hated everybody. Yeah, Bird and Magic didn't like each other. Yeah, Magic and Isaiah Thomas had a riff for a long time. Yeah, these dudes did not chill out together in the offseason, never wanted. It was cut throat and when Jordan and Nieck would go at it in a slam dunk contest.

I mean it was like, what can you do? This is what I'm gonna do it?

Better?

Do it better.

It was just back and forth and it was thrilling. Of course the dunks were great, but it was these are two of the best in the game trying to come at one another. And that added a layer where all right, Mac McClung, that's great.

Who's coming after Mac mcluck. He plays in the G League.

I'm about to say, Jenks. At the end of the day, the best dunker in the world is a G League basket club, right, if you're in the NBA. If I'm a player right now, I gotta be sitting on their roster saying I cannot do the G League player, right. You can't because you're scared of the stage. He's not. He's not scared of the stage, and you are. I can't believe the best dunker in the world is not even in the NBA.

And you know what, if you lose to him, there's no shame in that. And it's alright, it's a dunk contest.

Hey, Jalen Brown just lost to him.

Yes, yes, do you think any less of him?

I don't because he just got paid two hundred plus million. I don't think. I don't care. Matter of fact, applaud Jalen. Thank you for standing up doing what NBA players should do. I have seen guys play harder in a pickup game at U C l A.

I believe it.

Then they take more pride in a pickup game than they do the NBA All Star Game four hundred. I ain't think there was many that much time on o'clock, no defense, shot a shot shot. It's just let's just ended. How about we bring the NBA the NFL players, let them in the duck country?

Is that the solution? Honestly?

Where it's just some sort of because skills competition, because sabrina versus stuff was it was the.

Best part of the weekend. And I have been saying this my way to bring the w NBA to another level is I want this to happen, Jens, tell me what you think about this. I I feel when I take my daughters and my sons to basketball games compared to football games is very short. Yes, I remember in high school we used to watch the girls play and

I think it would be great, But is it plausible right, because then you have to you gotta switch courts. Why I guess you don't just switch, but to have that much basketball? Like what time do you start that game so that people can go to both?

Now we're talking time restraints, Yes, we're talking that, But I think a lot of people steal. If you're not a Mystic fans, A lot of people get their time right where they make it in just win the Wizards of Rice. So I think you mesh both of these crowds.

But then there's also cost, right, you're getting double the game. Now you have to pay more for an already expensive product. Right, these ownership groups, especially if you own both teams, You're not gonna charge the same for two teams on the same court.

You're gonna be like, oh, then we're gonna double the prices.

Then, well, because I'm giving you a double header. Hey, all right, So if I'm giving you a doubleheader and these teams need to share revenue, you was paying thirty because I can't kick you out. It ain't like we can flush the crowds out once you end your end. And this the whole thing of it. So I think I can go ticket in a half. I can charge you a ticket in a half in two games or people gonna pay for it.

Though going to a pro game is already pricey.

Yeah, it is in any sport, and I totally understand it. But I just think you get more consumption, more bang for your buck if it's two games.

I will say this, whatever the NBA does, they do need to at the risk of sounding really oh, they do need some sort of defense, some sort of balance, because in the old days, it was these were games, they.

Were grinded out.

It was ninety two eighty four. Yeah, and I understand why people want to see offense. I get that, but now we've sort of tipped the scales in the other direction, where routinely you'll see.

One forty two, one thirty.

At this All Star Game had a team score two hundred points for the first time.

I think they need that healthy balance.

Ain't no healthy balance because it's, first of all, it's an All Star game in the middle of the season. It's only so much you can do. I think it's getting to the point now where the game is just obsolete. Yeah, I think it's it's all about the three point contests, the skills Challenge, the slam dunk contest. I can't say it's bad. I can't say it's good because I'm not

Is very sure.

This is shy. Yeah. Yeah, like the list PG player a little defense, yeah, but other than that, like they're leaving it behind. It's like, if you want to get paid in the NBA, now, you need to score thirty a.

Game simply as that we're gonna pay some bills.

We gotta talk some football man, some offseason football are We're just.

So upset with this All Star game. The Pro Bowls no better? Oh my god, the Pro Bowls no better. Like, let's just be honest.

I couldn't watch a tug of war. I mean, I get it, it gets fine, yeah, but but I understand why they got rid of the Pro Bowl.

You know what I mean. It's just the football too physical.

For the extra game and it's a longer season anyway, Like you can only ring so much out of the human body.

Yeah, you know what, I mean right about that.

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I mean, you know, we've been recycling all our life. I remember as a kid. You remember the can man, the can man, the can man. Yes, everybody had a can man in the city and we would just take these bags, bags of like soda cans.

And by the time I made money as a kid.

This is what I'm telling you. I have been a green guy. I have been a recycling of my whole life. Like for our generation, the can man was the extra money outside the house. I could do this with that. My mom and daddy knowing that going to get this money. An I'm too young to know about the can man.

Imagine today if you said, what do you what are you guys gonna do this afternoon, Well, we're goin to get on our bikes. We're gonna take a trash bag, trash bags, and then wherever we see litter, we see cans, we're gonna pick those cans up and put them in a bag and make money. Once we turn those cans in, they'd be like, what the hell you're talking about?

These new kids, they won't do none of that. They not. Somebody might see me and put me on I g I'm picking up cans like we found glory in.

That there was it was, it was.

I can't believe that was just riding around my buddies having some cans and I'm gonna get money for this.

Five since a can. That's not a lot of good money right there. And now riding my bike with like this big old gobments man with this can, like like I got illuminum poison in on my back because I'm carrying so many cans. The good old days, oh my god, the good old days when people one scared to recycle and recycle it was a part of life.

It was you just did it.

No, you just did it for money, like we did what we had to do.

Yeah.

Yeah, We're a different generation, don't understand. Were the generation that actually played defense, were the generation that loved the Pro Bowl. We the generation that showed up at the dunk contest flushed to come. Hold on people. We are the generation that didn't have cell phones. We the generation that our parents had to trust us to get home. It's very true, to get home before that that light come on. Like, we are the generation that had payphones,

Hit and you thought it was the craziest thing ever?

Somebody think got too cold? Oh my god, sin. We are the generation that bridged the gap of none, tick and tick.

That's very true.

We are the test subjects. By the time we made the college cell phones, we would side kicking it to death. We were like, we are the generation that they gonna look back on and say, this is the generation that bridged the gap. I guess we gen X, right, I think, yeah, we are the generation that brought us from Captain Kirk to Game of Thrones.

I remember, honestly when computers were like home computers, and I would do a little bit of program out of a nerd because I was like, what is this so interesting to me? But I remember when you know, I mean everybody remembers AOL America online there was a numbing shh. There was also an online service called compu served, you remember, so I remember getting the mail and listen. The internet wasn't the thing going online wasn't think this is super early stages.

So I remember looking at this. I was like, sports scores, weather articles, what is this?

It looks but I couldn't fathom what it was because nobody was online. The only people online with these people are one percent of the population. So I was like, yes, So I was like, this sounds amazing to me, but I don't know what it is to do with I don't know what it is. I don't know how to get it. And of course now you wouldn't think about it. But I remember bridging that gap between learning about it

What if I told you, with my higher learning education at Missippi State that I created Twitter? Would you believe me? I would not? All right, you shouldn't, but I'm gonna tell you. He go the truth to me. I had this way upsite in college, smooth smack dot com, where I would get on here and talk trash to receivers, teams and coaches, a platform created by me in one of my classmates. It blew up. My treads were set

Oh my god, you wouldn't know my biggest regret online.

Oh also my other biggest regret. I had a chance to invest in vitamin water. Oh no, that he did get rich to tried to die. That's all I know. I know I had a chance to get in ground level. Oh no, I was just so young, and they sent me like boxes of vitamin water. I was like, this is good and it's free. By the way, I ain't gonna invest with you, no problem. Two minutes later we're billionaires.

So are you gonna be the second person to tell me?

Because Colin Cara was saying on his radio show Colin that the Commanders, yeah, will win the NFC East in the upcoming twenty twenty four season, based on what he saw out of the Texans. Right, Yeah, they avenue head coach, They get a studded quarterback in the draft, they get better on defense, they have cap.

Space to bring guys in.

Yeah.

Can you see this realistically happening?

Yes? I can. Philadelphia as bad as we were last year. We played them toe to toe. Yep. New York is a mess. Travis sher Marckhery Dallas is the only hurdle. We already beat them by subtraction. We stole they defensive coordinator made him out head coach, our head coach. Now in turns knows every weakness and strength of the Cowboys. He knows who's good my offense. He's knows who good on defense. He know how to attack Michael Parsons. He

We can win.

We can win this by subtracting from what the Cowboys had last year. They will take a step back, and us upgrading ourself at quarterback gives us a chance to take a step forward.

How much does that help that you almost never see a repeat champion in this division.

It is always it refreshes the palette. Yes, you know, we got a chance, like you just know, and you know if you didn't win it last year, you got a chance. Like that's the good thing about it right here. And let me ask you this. That played well this year. He did Ceedee Lamb played well. But they can't run the ball and they can't stop him the run. And we know this. And if you can't run the ball, you can't stop the run. You can't win a playoff game.

And now they're in their heads. They have a real mental hurdle together.

Thank you, And they got they got they got to figure out what they're gonna have to do in the cap too, like they're not as cap friendly as the rest of us. So I do see a way for us to not only win this division, but to be competitive. I can see that happening.

When you look at Dan Quinn as a head coach.

Yeah, and the fact that he brings in Joe wett So and those guys having worked together, does that also give a team a leg up because you're not just bringing in guys that you know based on their reputations. And of course these guys know each other, but having worked so closely together, I would think that means.

You just pick up and run like it's no and Coach Queen don't have to sick and gets him right, I trust you, Like, let me go over here with the offit, because I trust him that much that he knows what I like. You know when I like it, know he know what style of defense I want to play, He know how I want these guys coached up. He knows everything. And that's why I say we won that with the Cowboys on attrition, because we not only stole your brain trusts on defense, we stole your second brain

I mean, it is exciting to see this coach. She's staff in place and now and we'll get to the draft in the second. But now you have more cap space than anyone else in the NFL.

A lot of cap space. That mean a lot of opportunity. And you got a couple of positions that mirror each other, like meaning, you need a left tackle, you need a right town. Well, I can get one in the draft. I can get one in free agency, all right, I need a guard. I can get one in free agency. I can I can draft this guy. And you gotta ask yourself. Let's be honest. If you do the numbers, Let's say we draft ten guys. Okay, five probably play. That's just the way it goes. No, that's always way.

You're ready for one of those heat seekers.

Man, I just I just think when you add somebody to it. And the thing about me too. Free agency, I like to steal from the great, Like, if I'm gonna sign a free agency I want him off playoff teams, like I don't want to sign a non playoff team free agent, like because now I'm like, did you have to help your team win? Like I know Patrick Queen

Let me ask you this because I think it's an interesting question. Where you can learn to win, you can learn to lose.

Oh, no, losing is a habit exactly.

Yeah.

So how many times were there in your career where

Champion man watching London London, how he prepared London Fletcher prepared like a champion. Uh, just a guy that had been there and did that Like it's it's easy sometime when you see guys that already have made it to where you trying to get to. Yeah, and you look at they habits London, first man in and last man out, studious in the class, but also take care of his body. And that's how you go fourteen fifteen years and not miss a game.

Credible.

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Not even a god. Who are we gonna pick at number two?

Now?

I know you have some ideas, I got all.

I just we just got so many options.

Isn't it a beautiful thing?

It's so great? And I just want to know how the fans would react. How do you think the fans will react if we took one of those number two second round picks, not the A two pick, Yes, the second round pick. We got two of them. Yes, let's say we take the lowest one, okay, and we trade for Justin Fields.

I think the fans would hate it, but I I I also well, because I'm not saying it's the wrong move. But look, let's think from a fan perspective, right, what is always more popular the shiny new toy the draft, the draft coming out of college who's never played it down, or a guy who's gotten better in the NFL, but who is maybe not a type, not a top ten quarterback, but who's gotten better, but also play for a bad team.

I'm not saying it's the wrong call, but if you make that call, you have to believe.

These are the same people that applauded when we skipped Justin Herbert and how can a team would die a quarterback? Skip a quarterback and draft of the end the lie right. Everybody applauded it, great pick, and too it wasn't like at some point you got to realize, this is a prove it game. I love Caleb Williams, he hasn't proved anything in the league. I love Drake Maine, He's done nothing in this league. Justin Fields has And let's just

And get what tackle.

I can get the best tackle, I can maybe get the best tight end. I can get whoever I want. Because if I go down, I just got your number nine pick. I probably got your second round pick. Yep. And I got your first round next year. So if Justin Fields don't work out, I still got two first rounds next year. I can get him now if I get that tackle for Sunu for sewu uh, let's say

I gotta take your quarterback?

I got.

I like Justin Fields. I'm not of the opinion that maybe he has he'll be better if he goes to a better team he needs, because that Bears team is especially the offensive line.

That the bat.

But I wonder how high his ceiling is compared to a Drake May or compared.

To a Jade Daniels. So Justin Fields is he better than a serviceable quarterback? Absolutely?

Yeah.

But when it comes to and again, I know these guys haven't played it down in the NFL. But if you think that one of this comes down to your personal scouting and evaluation. If you think may Or Daniels has a much higher ceiling because it's such a quarterback driven league, I think you have to go after one of those two guys.

And you only feel that way because we got to pay Jason Fields. That's why you really feel that way. And I think that's what man you would. I would pay him, but I know I don't have to break the bank too, Like if I bring him in before he even takes a snap and pay him a good list salary, I don't have to break the bank with him, right, So I just think it opens up because what's are of your older options, Kirk Cousins, you're breaking kirkback. Oh god, the best account in football, Kirk Cousins.

Nobody's done a better job of making that money.

Oh my god, you bring brother Russell Wilson in. Please. We got too many politicians in DC already. We don't need a nuh So, what I'm saying is Fields is the best option outside of the draft, right, And if you're looking at your options, I think it's an option, especially what you have to fill a lot of holes on this team. Yeah, it's an option. I think you have to pay.

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I think you have to look at all options, right because you never know what a team will give you or you might have to pay him, whatever that may be.

So if you're choosing, though, let's say let's put Justin Fields.

It's table here for just a second, all right, If you're choosing between Drake May and Jayden Daniels, because I know your comps are you think Drake Man is more of a Justin Herbert and you said, Josh Allen, okay, Josh Allen, and you said Jaydon Daniels remind you.

Of RG four. There it is, but not in a bad way, right right, right, all right. I thought RG was special coming out. I thought the Shanahans did a great job at incorporating and building an offense around him. But straight line speed is the same with these guys. Both terrible when it comes to taking tackles. Laser arms can make deep throws. Every throw you want them to make, they can make. For me. Not see Drake may standing there, six four and a half, two hundred and thirty pounds.

I go back and forth.

This is I honestly I can see either guy, and I'm not trying to be a politician here and I can This is when I realize maybe this is above my pay grade a little bit like this is when I need to see things from a real football perspective that it's hard for the general fan to see. We all have opinions and it's not that And I'm not one of those people that believes.

You didn't play football.

You can't know anything, You can't make decision.

You can study something.

You can study. Now do I know what it's like for you?

No, I never know, But certainly this is when I think football people this is what they get.

Pay for, yes, because it's an identify you because when you get in there, you're not trying to identify what they do great, You're trying to identify what they don't do. And that's hard.

And they what they could do, Yeah, like what they could be.

I like that action right there, quarterbacks ut. But you gotta see what they cannot do and can they learn that habit? Like when people see Drake May, they like, I haven't seen him in big games? Well, maybe you need to ask his teammates what happen?

Right?

So it's never one player. Then they're like Jane Daniels will where was this kid and when he was at Arizona State, like he wasn't making these plays, then that's right? Did he only do that because Elite Nabors is the number one where I receive it in the league that's going first round, And Brian Thomas Jrs. Is a number one wide receiving in the league that's going first round. Is that the reason he was great? Because I just seen the other two, Caleb and Drake play with the

And don't you want to talk to players and coaches who can say this is a great leader. This guy can go off script better than any playff ever, or we gotta make sure everything's in order, or this guy can't go off so you can.

Do what I don't. I don't want the quarterback that needs everything perfect.

That's what I mean.

And when I look at this three, I'll say whose situation was better? I think Jane Daniel's situation was better. And with everything perfect, he went running his mean he did not win the national championship, all right, and that says a lot to me because you had a team to do it and you could not get it done with two pro style weapons on the outside. Says a lot to me.

Who're gonna pay something? I can't wait for the draft. I'm just excited that to see this team in this.

I'm gonna be in Detroit, so you know, I'm gonna be in the motown city living the dream.

You should drive there in the.

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I love driving like it's nothing like being on the open road. I love just sight see and just relax man something about their road. Did a let your ma get at ease. I think I'm gonna be one of them people that just buy me an r V. I was just gonna say that, just buy me an RV and just riye coast to coast for no reason.

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