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Comeback WIN in Denver, Daron Payne is Mythical, and Sam Howell is Legit | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders

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Breaking down the Denver win (2:51). I'm not saying...I'm just saying: Sam Howell (20:50), Daron Payne (23:30), Brian Robinson (28:28). CC Pod Fantasy League update (32:43).

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Speaker 1

Today on the Command Center podcast, we're breaking down that Denver victory. And I'm not saying Dron Payne is better than Aaron Donald. I'm just saying he might be. We're talking about Aliens versus Sasquatch. We're doing a Fantasy Potter recap and Fred just doesn't know how to take that out. That's all coming up right now on the podcast. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot. Yeah in Santanamos. Yeah boy, Fred, you said

you're gonna go down the Mississippi State game. It didn't happen.

Speaker 2

It didn't happen.

Speaker 3

My son got injured in his football game, so I had to take him to pet try to get that knee right so he can play in his homecoming game this weekend.

Speaker 1

Oh it's this weekend.

Speaker 2

They played Dominion on Friday.

Speaker 1

This should be a And I'm gonna say, I'm.

Speaker 3

So glad that go down there and see the massacre and stalk me anyway, because.

Speaker 2

It wasn't good for us. It's faced in.

Speaker 1

It was the score.

Speaker 2

First of all, take this out.

Speaker 3

High receiving neighbors literally had one hundred and sixty three yards receiving in.

Speaker 1

The first half, in the first half, in the first half a guest because you didn't go.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm glad I didn't go, but you could have given.

Speaker 1

This half halftime speech.

Speaker 3

Oh no, maybe I could back because I am kind of ap Pacino.

Speaker 1

This game is about inches, Yeah, get them. So I was thinking about it because you said your son got a knee. Right. Do you remember when Mike Shanahan would have those meetings, uh in like two eleven, would be like, don't talk to the media, don't tell them about your injury. And it's like, what if, like my I got like a like a miniscus. He's like, don't tell me anything. So you got like a leg, got a leg lower leg injury. And I was like, man, this guy is just really trying.

Speaker 4

I tell you this, and just just because you're talking, I mean talking about you know, Mike. I remember when I had the incident with the whole thing with Lauren and the guy who we was using and.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, yea yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 4

You know, Mike, Mike looked at me and told me to a man like, man, I know you ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 2

Because you'll wait right now.

Speaker 4

You got so so and I'm like on the phone, like I'm adamant about Like, Mike, let me come in and tell the media like they got the wrong dude, Like what are they talking about?

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's my doctor, but I don't know what he's doing.

Speaker 4

With other fork reason. So Mike was like, bro, what do you use him for? Then I said, I said, he spent my blood in my knee. You know, I had a bad knee at the time. I didn't know what I was gonna need on it, but I was just trying to fight through it. He said, my wife used this guy, so I already know. Long story short, I end up having to get surgery on my knee,

you know, later that year. But it was funny because when I told him about the knee, the first thing he said, don't even mention your knee, you know what I mean. Whenever you do have to come clean about whatever, just let it be know he's your doctor. You've been seeing him for years, which he was. I had been seeing him for four or five years. So no, but Mike was a good guy.

Speaker 1

Mike is always doing.

Speaker 2

Like don't let him know.

Speaker 5

You gotta fla.

Speaker 1

What it is there? Classic Fredie so Hey, guys in addition to fred Son's knee and a Tannis knee. It was a pretty good game this weekend. Yeah, pretty good, pretty good ball game this weekend to and oh how how we all feel about that?

Speaker 3

I feel real good about it because I've seen a lot. Like when I look at a game, I'm not just I don't want to just see a forty to zero. Yeah, that's in the perfect world for the zero win. But I'm seeing them problem solved on the run. I am seeing a quarterback go through his maturations, I'm seeing him grow.

I'm seeing them go through adversity and turn the tables and go do something like people can say all they want to about a Bronco team going on the road to my O High Stadium and trying to get a victory has never, will and will be never easy for any team. So they taught me a lot. And this is what I really I'm really excited about. These guys take turns, making game change and play like I'm talking about not just eleven on defense. I'm talking about going

like nineteen twenty deep on defense. Look at the wide receiving court spreading the love. And when you do that as a quarterback, like seem how it makes it hard for defenses to say, how can we stop you? Because it ain't as easy as stopping Teary no more. You're just not see a team, a complete team.

Speaker 4

I mean, that's what I look at the most from both wins. You just seeing these guys go out there and playing together. It's not just you know, at one point in time, especially when we played remember on offensively, we had poortus Coolie in myself. That was guys that's gonna make the play. Then when you came around, it was the RG you know, you know myself.

Speaker 2

Or a couple of guys there. But it never was like, you know, one.

Speaker 4

Focused the whole, the whole entire offense coming together, or the whole entire defense, you know, accomplishing something. And that's what I'm saying. Everybody is making plays, and I mean the statu speaks for itself. Last week it was nine now receivers with two and more catches, Like that's showing

you that they're spreading the wealth. And Sam has just you know, you're talking about maturation, like within two or three three games a game from last year, some preseason games and these two games, I mean, the guys has everybody's attention with his arm strength, just showing that he can put the ball in the numbers. Like to me, that's what I'm about the most. But most of the people that watched them play in college has been saying, look, this is what he's been doing. He's been like this,

you know, since North Carolina. I think we get caught up into.

Speaker 5

The whole where was your drafted?

Speaker 1

He's not.

Speaker 2

He's not a blue chipper, you.

Speaker 1

Know what I mean.

Speaker 2

It's not the big time, big time quarterback.

Speaker 4

So I've been saying from day one, wherever you draft a guy, let him go out there and show you who he is. If he's you know, a top pick or not, but you have to get these guys a chance.

Speaker 3

Zach Wilson number two, We took our guy what in the front right now? If I bet they won't, they would love this hair, Sam Howe instead of Zach Wilson. That shows you in only three games he makes people feel this way. And I was talking to the Great Doug Williams out there, Doug Williams, and Doug said he got the moxie, and I was like, yes, it's dB.

Speaker 2

We know when a guy got the moxy when.

Speaker 3

Mox is a quarterback, mixing, knowing when to step up, never being afraid to make a throw, Throwing that in that window to John Bates, Moxie, letting it go to Terry mclaughan, when you know that's the wrong person to throw it too, it still puts it up there, knowing when the play broke down out of scan one, two three, I'm running, I'm taking off.

Speaker 1

Just a gamer, he's a ball player, he's a football.

Speaker 4

And just giving your guys a chance to make the play, you know what I mean? Like that past that, Terry was like, you know what Terry's going to be before these.

Speaker 2

Guys, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I'm throwing it in the crowd.

Speaker 4

But the way they got to get there and the way he sees it he's going to be have a chance to attack the.

Speaker 1

Ball was excellent. So let's talk about this. You mentioned quarterback maturity, you mentioned ball distribution. I think they kind of go together. So in terms of maturity and kind of development, like what have you seen from Sam that you're like, Okay, this is the right this is the right progression. Obviously, the moxy that stuff up from a technical standpoint, what are we talking about?

Speaker 3

Well, he go think about it. What what gives young quarterbacks problems? The inability to read defenses? That's the number one thing that they have problem watching justin fields.

Speaker 2

He can't read.

Speaker 1

He can't but like he can't even he didn't even know where the book was at this point.

Speaker 2

Man, This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1

So you watch him play, man, that's rough.

Speaker 3

So to see Sam go out there and literally just it doesn't he doesn't flinch, it doesn't phase him, and he knows where to go with the ball. He's always constance of down the distance. He always knows where he had.

Speaker 1

On the feet. I think he's holding the football too long ago at that times, times.

Speaker 2

He has he has four court he's twelve quarters old.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 4

With that being said, though you watch from week one to week two, it has already been an improvement, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2

You can see that the clock is going on and he knows, now I got I gotta get out, you know what I mean. We won.

Speaker 4

He was sitting back there like he was in a lot of he had all day. But now he's like, oh, I've been here too long.

Speaker 2

Let me do something.

Speaker 4

But it's you know, he got sacked a couple of times when he thought about like, ah, man, I'm here too long.

Speaker 2

So that's the growth about him.

Speaker 4

You know, that's something that we've heard over time and time that he's a guy that when he does something once, he doesn't repeats it. And that's what you want to see. Like me, as a receiver, I want to be able to go. I don't need that quarterback to come in the old varsity Blues.

Speaker 2

Type style and telling me all this riff raff. I don't need that. I just need a guy that you gonna talk to me a boy, how.

Speaker 4

You're giving me an opportunity when the opportun and he presents itself. Every pass catcher have seen that from him not saying it, just putting the ball on their chest.

Speaker 2

The time.

Speaker 1

It doesn't he doesn't even say it to you, said.

Speaker 2

Just he gonna fine you with the ball.

Speaker 4

Yes, when he find multiple guys with the ball, he's telling you, I'm your guys, I'm your court.

Speaker 2

I see you open, I'm gonna throw it to you.

Speaker 1

Yeah. And so to that point though, one of the things in terms of maturity that I saw two minute, I didn't think of it too. You just make sure right now, two minute drive, fifty five seconds left, fifty or whatever it's minute left, got pressure first play at the drive, throws the ball away. You know what I mean, That's that's a step because because last week he tried to spin out drop the ball right and again like those are small steps. And again I think he's still

holding the football a little too long. And you know, are the receivers getting open in the time of the play. All these questions need to be answered. But I think you see those small steps that if a guy can improve two percent five percent each week, that's gonna be a dangerous guy.

Speaker 3

And we've seen him get knocked around and get right back up. He's tougher than a two dollars of steak. No, he understands what it takes to be tough. He's tough, talking long on holding up. I'm talking about eating the belt.

Speaker 2

A belt all.

Speaker 5

I'm saying that.

Speaker 3

I watching you get hit in at Cortoner's game, and I was like, he at least got to come out for a player he got right the one he gets back out in this game form Randon Gregory.

Speaker 5

Randon Gregory returned to Colnel plaid him out. He gets right back. He goes to the huddle, and that endured you with your team.

Speaker 3

I'm sorry. Let you know, I ain't coming at this game. I'm here to He's not a big guy, you know, small.

Speaker 4

He reminds me of myself as a receiver, kind of like you put together, put together like he solid, you know, like he can take a hit, you know what I mean, the guy that you put him in the fire, He'll take a punch.

Speaker 2

You ain't knocking him out. You're gonna have to You're gonna have to fight, you know what. I'm so he's.

Speaker 4

Showing you that throughout throughout his play, that he's a guy that and and I hope I don't have to see him going through anymore what we saw in Arizona game, because you just that was just stupid.

Speaker 2

That was sense. It's like, but he just showing you that.

Speaker 1

Man.

Speaker 4

Look, man, at times I'm gonna need to use this docky body and at times I got this rocket on every time I'm on.

Speaker 1

You know, he does have a flamethrow. Let's talk about the distribution of the ball, right. I think one of the things about this offense is that it is it's not like you know, here's the ex receiver. It's not like Julio Jones out there, let's force touch, you know what I'm saying. And I know we've got good players, but it's like the concepts like you're talking about, how he's reading through stuff allows him to kind of make

sure the ball gets to different people. And I also think, like, sob he's just calling like he's calling pull in the red zone. You know what I'm saying. He's got Logan running the dig and John's running out, so like really if they if the defense doesn't cover that right John, obviously Logan can get the ball and then the back of the flat Gibson could get the ball. And it's not and it's just him reading it out. You think that's helpful because he's young or do you think that?

And he's not like you know what I'm saying, It's not like he's forcing it to one guy. You know what I'm saying, Like.

Speaker 4

It's mash to food like for it it is.

Speaker 2

Honestly, you know what it is.

Speaker 4

It shows you that eb is giving him plays that he can do. That's almost like football one quarterback in one on one. It's not something that route difficult for you. You should be able to do this with no problem. Yes, I'm putting I'm setting you up for the big shot. I'm gonna give you this play because guess what, You're gonna have three guys open. You're gonna need to take the dead You're gonna take the guy on the snag rout, You're gonna take the guy who's sitting out there in the flat.

Speaker 2

And if you don't see none of those guys, throw it away.

Speaker 4

But it's somebody gonna come open because you know, like I know, one of those guys gonna.

Speaker 2

Get two eyes, four eyes. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

And that's what Johan did. Jehan win in the that snag the four eyes did come. He got out of it so he could have got the ball, but he said he trusted Logan. He threw it right there the logan. Logan made a play with multiple guys around him. But that's what that was the trust part game, man. I trust him to make this play. So that's what I love about it because you can see that your offensive coordinator is working with a young guy that saying, look, man,

I'm I'm setting you up to be successful. And then I'm gonna give you a chance to go out there and be a star. And that's what he did with Terry ball that Terry passed two guys. I mean, it was what we wish would have happened.

Speaker 2

He would he would have.

Speaker 4

Waited for a second, threw to Johann. Johann catching running the end zone.

Speaker 2

He say, no, this is Terry. And from when I saw last year, you throw the ball to Terry. He coming down.

Speaker 3

But I like how coach b Enemy is doing this. Like the more and more I keep watching plays. He got a front side and he has a backside to all of his plays. His front side let's just say, for example.

Speaker 1

Not all of them, but yeah, like most of the drop backs, most.

Speaker 3

Of the drop back pads at the front side. Let's just say, this is the side to beat man the man, and he got nothing but man and man beaters on this front side. Backside he has zone beaters.

Speaker 2

And I liked it.

Speaker 3

Now he's telling Sam, when you come out the huddle, the only thing I need to do is identify what covered you in go to the week.

Speaker 1

You know what's crazy though, I was saying about this too. It's like on that for example, that pull concept for the touchdown the logan like, that's excellent against zone, but it's also really good against man if you run it correctly against man, like if Johan like you know you talked about he runs that pull like a snag. You know what I'm saying, that five yard city. He doesn't just go up and sit down, turn the round. He's got a little sauce on it, breaks out, creates some separation.

So I also think it seems to me, and I don't know even have to talk to you about it, that he's coaching these guys. Hey, man, this concept is a zone beater. But if we get man, hey speech cuts, you know, do this, let's go and curl up. Yes, he giving them flexibility.

Speaker 3

He's actually empowering the wide receivers in the tight end and just telling him I don't believe in running into coverages like I have so many times we'll go out, we'll run cover for that. This slot receiver was just run this seven round just right.

Speaker 1

So we talked about that breakdown.

Speaker 2

He don't allow it. He gonna tell they got to go up or your curl up, like show them your numbers.

Speaker 4

But when you watch Kansas City playing for so many years, now Kelsey, that's what he does.

Speaker 2

He does.

Speaker 4

He just finds the way to get open. Kelsey could be covered and he just sits down, or he keep me going.

Speaker 2

He runs. So I'm sure it's being coached. Beau. How good you are, because I used to be one of those guys. I run everything as a man. I'm beat you.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna beat my guy, and then you start looking at him like, oh man, I got somebody inside and cloud over me. I got a guy on the guy at the top. So you eventually, over time started learning the nuances of like, oh, bro, he can't run route like a man, right, you can't run the route fast, winter sit in the whole. I used to run that route that we had. It was the corner route to the curl. I remember we had to get the corner.

So I remember remember Kyle telling me, He's like, nobody's out there, why come back, keep going.

Speaker 2

I'm like, I'm just running what you tell me to overcome. I want overcome.

Speaker 4

It started making me say, well, long was the that that quarterback know what I'm gonna do, then.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna do.

Speaker 1

It doesn't matter exactly.

Speaker 4

Nap saw at one play and he was like I was getting ready to launch it to you, and you just stopped and say, but I knew if you keep going about it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

And they're gonna keep it because we are what you gotta realize, y'all are proactive.

Speaker 1

We are reacting defensive.

Speaker 3

Defensive, and if you don't give us keys, we can't react, meaning them always be a step like, right, Well, that's what these patterns, these route patterns do.

Speaker 2

They may for us to be a step late.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and it's crazy because I didn't think that's something you could coach, but it's here. You know they're doing it here though. So Okay, we talked a lot about the offense. Let's talk a little bit about the defense.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Obviously, Yeah, a lot of stuff going on that side of the football, defensive line. You guys, before we got on the show, we're talking about interceptions and things like that, and I didn't notice that as much. I was focused on the front. So what, like, what's our big takeaway from that group? Obviously, twenty one to three to start the game fresh quarter not great. Yeah, but they're able to turn it around.

Speaker 3

But but guess what that's always been the Broncos start fast, get you behind it.

Speaker 2

No, they that's how.

Speaker 3

They weaponized being a mile high in the sky night because it's gonna take.

Speaker 2

You a quarter to acclimate.

Speaker 3

But if you are already down fourteen with John Alway quarterback, you're not coming back.

Speaker 5

So that's always been their thing.

Speaker 3

So I think with the defense started slow, tried to fill it out. Russell got out there. Once they figured out, okay, this is how they tried to attack us. They trying to run on the edges and they trying to set up play action. Sure, once they understood that, they let the dogs go because those defensive ends, those defensive tackles. They won that game with trench warfare and we left some some some interceptions on the copy.

Speaker 1

So yeah, four or five easy, easy, easy, that's.

Speaker 2

A that's a great sign. I don't want to cut Fred off.

Speaker 4

But you know, one of the things that stood out to me just watching them, tell you chance to watch it. I think the lord that we got NFL plus.

Speaker 2

You can watch these games.

Speaker 4

Uh honestly, what I what I seen that was just it was just like hard to miss. Broncos just ran their first fifteen like they had that script. They had their script and say they.

Speaker 5

Was fast and they hit on it.

Speaker 2

You know what I mean?

Speaker 4

They was hitting and then you gotta you gotta understand we was driving on offense and was scoring. So when you're doing your thing offensively, putting our defense back out there on the field when we're not doing our job. Then now the Broncos hitting, the defense just had to gather theyself and say, Okay.

Speaker 2

Now you don't ran your you're gonna shot your walk? Yeah, now what you know what.

Speaker 3

You're gonna do and all the adjustments like what are you going to do now? And that's what it's about. And that's any team. When they had him fifteen, they feel good about them fifteen them first fifteen.

Speaker 2

It's like everybody knows who's gonna get the balls.

Speaker 1

But I missed.

Speaker 2

But when we said it down, but I said, he go to clear picture.

Speaker 1

I want to ask you something before we get into that. So that toss crack run, we used to call it taxi, taxi and trucks. So they have a hard time. I don't know, man, but they they have a hard time fit on that run. And we're gonna probably see that we're gonna previe this week. But why are they having such hard time with it.

Speaker 3

I think it's because the corners are not crashing down. Think so the coners. You got a couple of options. I can crash down and take this this this pulling guard on, or this tackle or this tight end whoever they see now here to block me.

Speaker 2

And I can eat a start a pile.

Speaker 3

And if I start a pile, I make the running back stop his feet, regather, give time for my troops to come get it. I can slide turn their curve and try to jump in there and make that tack.

Speaker 5

But our corners are not get dirty. They're still standing up.

Speaker 3

Like when when you can't take on the sweet Great weeks that way and told me if you taking on the top sweet standing up, you basically gave up thirty.

Speaker 2

Really you gotta go ahead and fall. I got to.

Speaker 3

I gotta store chaos. I gotta store chaos, organized chaos. I have to start it.

Speaker 1

It's so funny you say that, because I was always like in in truck, I'm the first puller, you know what I'm saying. So I'm and I'm a big guy. Right now, you get out there with the corner and then like in the preseason, you just get out there and just molly wap some corner you doesn't know what he's doing. Yeah, So that's my story. So then the next of real real Bullets starters, I get out there, I'm all right, it's gonna be just like the preseason.

And this dude cut my thigh path so hard. The quad and choosing bro and I hit my head bow, you know, the whole deal. And I was like, okay, this is a little bit.

Speaker 5

That's how, this is how you stopped.

Speaker 4

And just from me watching it and listening to you yesterday, I was sitting there watching it last night and I'm like, oh, I see what Fred talking about. Because you watch both times our corner showed up outside that he got it, but he didn't. He didn't cost a power, he didn't he didn't make no chaos. And so that lane, that whole you know, running backs, they got shifted. Why he just slid, he slid up through that thing and they just so happened to time up Barton Barton.

Speaker 2

Barton saw it the one time. The first time, I don't know what the second time he made contact with one of.

Speaker 4

Those pullers, but that that little that little lane was still there.

Speaker 2

So that guy kept the slide through the office of line back flat like the back is trying to.

Speaker 3

Bounce off of him. Like if if if, if the guy coming to me find to block me and his back is flat, the bat gonna come right off of him. Now, if I started a pile over there at the back, the bat gotta figure out where and what what to do.

Speaker 4

Let me ask this question too, because just watching Barton how he took on that block, do you think because you are like most most defenders know when they can make a plan. Now, you know, I saw that play and I slowed down from the front.

Speaker 2

I had a nice view I had. I had a defensive view, so I saw the back of it.

Speaker 4

And as I see them, I'm slowing it down, he's going to the crack and the guy at the ball, I mean he's rolling.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 4

I saw back saw thirteen show ab outside. So when he showed them outside, that lineman even had to do nothing to him, He's like, all right, he still leave him out. I was almost thinking to myself, if I'm in that position to be a linebacker, knowing I'm defeated, you almost got.

Speaker 2

To run through that block.

Speaker 4

You got you gotta run through that block in a way to where that he slows that running back down and cast him to either cut back or bounce out.

Speaker 2

Where they don't want him to cross face.

Speaker 3

They're gonna want him to cross face because they still want him standing like he already too.

Speaker 4

So it would it be better for Barton to cross that line and cross the line. That's what he didn't do that way because if he took the block on and the guy base.

Speaker 3

We don't never want to go one for one, gotcha. We ain't never trying to trade one block or for one.

Speaker 2

I want to ask you that question.

Speaker 1

Let's get to our next segment, which is I'm not saying but i am saying. I'm just saying I'm just saying. I'm just saying that. Right, So, basically, this is an opportunity for us to kind of, I don't know, get after it a little bit with our takes, you know, not like hot takes something you believe in, be a little bit optimistic, you take you know what I'm saying. Let's start with the guy, Sam Howe.

Speaker 5

I'm saying, but I'm not saying Sam how it's undefeated. It's a fact, But I'm saying that he is good as we think he is.

Speaker 2

He is who.

Speaker 1

We think he is, which is what what do we think he is?

Speaker 3

We think right now he's a quarterback that can develop into a franchise quarter I would just put it right there. I won't put any awards and stuff like that. I'm not saying m v P. I'm not saying, you know, I'm saying he is a He's showing us he's a cornerstone for his team.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I mean, what do you think, well, he just acts.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so we know.

Speaker 2

I'm just saying, no that I feel him with that.

Speaker 4

But I'm gonna get to my point when I'm saying, I'm not saying but I'm saying.

Speaker 1

I want to make my point.

Speaker 2

I'm not saying but I'm saying.

Speaker 4

I'm going back to Sam in our division, me sneaky probably one of the best two.

Speaker 1

Passers that I like that. He's not there yet, but he's he's saying I like it. I like it.

Speaker 2

Don't quote me, but quote me.

Speaker 1

You know what i mean.

Speaker 2

I'm like, bro, I'm watching these guys throw the ball, and I think.

Speaker 3

The Jones when it comes to the world field.

Speaker 4

I ain't even putting Danny Jones in the question. I'm talking about Dak and hurts her them to me, those guys that he competing with when it comes to arm talent.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and I like it.

Speaker 1

I like it. What are they saying? They can't say that you understood the assignment and.

Speaker 5

Down and in the best division in football.

Speaker 2

I'm saying that now.

Speaker 3

He's was the best division last year for I think it's still the best division right now.

Speaker 5

They have the best record of any division in the league.

Speaker 1

All right, I'm that So yeah, I'm not saying what is it. I don't want to say. I'm not saying. I'm just saying, yeah, I think he could be the franchise guy.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

I mean that's kind of what I'm not feeling. And again, like he's got He's not there yet. But the optimistic part of me is like, this is the guy and I.

Speaker 2

Approve that message.

Speaker 1

Do yeah boy?

Speaker 5

Politicians?

Speaker 1

All right, so let's do We're gonna do a couple here on the defense. Yeah, okay, but let's start with dron Payne. And you want to start this one.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Okay, I'm not saying, but I'm saying Dron Payin might be on an Aaron Donald level this year.

Speaker 2

He's playing on an Aaron Donald m VP level this year it's two games. Yeah, tell me, I'm lying. He my dad ap preached.

Speaker 1

Yeah you stopped that.

Speaker 2

I'm telling you that.

Speaker 1

No. But to your point though, like that last game when he does that that that three place three in.

Speaker 3

A row, he almost did that what two series I know he did, I mean one usay he made two out.

Speaker 1

Of the three plays. Yeah, and again like for him to you know, Kyle said this to me when I was in San Francisco, and he was like, I didn't know a guy was gonna I forget who he was talking about. Don't know someone was gonna be elite on defense until they started making plays when it counted. And so last week he gets the or the TfL that kind of starts that sequence where Sweat gets the the sac Forest Fumbel. Right, this week it's he like does

a three and out by himself pretty much. You know, obviously sweat helps help Sweat helps him with the et which is great, but like those are dominant moments and so like I don't know man, Like I don't know if he's Aaron Donald, but like he's definitely on that kind of conversation for like, you know, one of those elite like d elite d Lineman and like you know, everybody used to say it was Dexter Lawrence for the division. But I think kind of he's pushed himself into that category.

Speaker 2

And I'm not saying, don'tquote me wrong. I'm not saying he's Aaron Donald.

Speaker 4

I'm just saying on the style of play on the level that Aaron Donald, who was playing on like already in two games, he's he's been that guy for making plays because those guys, we got four dominant, four or five dominant guys up front. But when you start to be the guy that we're talking about more than others. Yeah, and you're speaking that credit, you know.

Speaker 3

Well, I'm saying, but I'm not saying that the run pain could be sas squashed.

Speaker 2

He could be a mythical creature.

Speaker 1

What are we talking about bigfoot?

Speaker 5

I was in the woods not too long ago in Montana.

Speaker 3

I swear I thought I looked around with the run past. Where we're going about mythical creatures, people hold them.

Speaker 1

It's like seeing a DRAGONPPI he.

Speaker 3

What I'm saying is amongst aliens, mont Sweat is an alien, Chase Young is an alien.

Speaker 2

John is alien.

Speaker 5

Then it's a SSS squad.

Speaker 3

Then it's a mythical creature there that like Taylor just said that standing he seems like he's showing up.

Speaker 2

I saw say his name a lit a bit more.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna hitchhike myself this one right here, because I don't know where we're going.

Speaker 1

I need to ride get me.

Speaker 3

He's a magical creature right amongst other creatures. But he's the one that's standing out. We got it's the same thing, y'all. Just say he's it's something special about what he's doing right now.

Speaker 5

And I interviewed him last week and he's.

Speaker 3

So tunnel vision right now. I asked him, did you go fishing and something? He's like, nah, why not football? I like that you did go rotch your foul Whillers because he loved four Whillers. Like to play in the blood like me, no football like he is so and he A lot of that respect got to do with the.

Speaker 2

Fact Madden does it every year.

Speaker 3

Madden frames it excites a riding people.

Speaker 2

And I brought that up to him and he was like, yes, I've been mad.

Speaker 3

Really, he said, I was eighty three last year I go to the Pro Bowl and I made it three again?

Speaker 2

Made no sense? And this is what it is.

Speaker 3

That's that underdog mentality. And you're talking about a guy from Alabama. When have they ever been underdog like? So him the hell that understand? He playing around greatness, but nobody want to give him his greatness?

Speaker 1

YEA understand yet no I agree. So I'm just so I'm not saying, but I'm saying that he might be the best defensive liment on this team, Like, uh, I mean, tell me I'm wrong, Tell me I'm wrong right now based on his production though, based on the dominant moments he's producing it, and he could be for the rest of the year. Got with three three?

Speaker 4

You know, it's you know, like how we talk about two yeah from yeah, he.

Speaker 2

Did he have one this week? Did he for Yes?

Speaker 4

But that's status amongst dominants. You know what I'm saying. I think sweat is affecting.

Speaker 1

As much so what we're what we're not saying. What I'm saying here is that like they're all playing good yeah, yeah, all of But and what you said, he's a sasquatch amongst aliens, right, which I don't really get that analogy. But he's different. He's he's a little squat. He's a little bit different.

Speaker 2

I know it's aliens here now, I haven't seen a sasquatch.

Speaker 1

That's it squat, all right. So I think we all can agree that Payne is doing a really good job. And the Holy Lions did a good job and in this and in this moment of like kind of hot takes and like are the most optimistic version of ourselves. He's played a lot of good. The next person b Rob. I like this one. I'm high on Rob. This is gonna.

Speaker 3

Be that's what you're saying. But I am saying he is the new coming. He's the new Aryan Foster. Oh, he runs with upright callup. He also caches the ball a lot better, and he is he is hell on wheels to get down in the open feed.

Speaker 2

He is the new are.

Speaker 1

In Foster and Aaron Foster led the league and.

Speaker 3

Oh you appreciate like three years in the road just that back then, how can we gonna stop him?

Speaker 1

Kind of like Alvin Kamar before Alvin, you know what I'm saying, people got.

Speaker 4

More of a bruiser than Aaron Foster. And Foster was he was a big but he live you know what I mean. And Foster would give you one or two every now and then, but he was more one of those.

Speaker 2

For next kind of back.

Speaker 5

He was talking about Aaron Fossis from the Texans.

Speaker 3

You're thinking about Matt Fote, thinking about Matt Matt four that ain't no bad, wasn't bad.

Speaker 2

He was a bad dude too. Yeah, you're right, and Foster you're right, yeah, yeah, absolutely right now he was.

Speaker 1

I like that comp though.

Speaker 4

I'm not saying, but I'm saying that b Rob I think he's the best back in the division.

Speaker 3

Okay, let's talk about that hurt first, Mama, tell you like this and like I just said, Will, I'm not saying, but I'm.

Speaker 1

Just saying, he's gonna be productive.

Speaker 4

All those guys you spoke about it, and I love is like he's a gift. He's almost he's almost like a Barry Sandish too.

Speaker 2

And somebody like, put together real quick.

Speaker 1

Do they want to watch Jon Robinson this weekend? Oh yeah, yes, he's Okay. First off, everyone's saying, oh, he's the next SA quad, like he is way better than.

Speaker 3

Say that, now, he's way better than He's being partly clown and partly Sonny, it's the same.

Speaker 1

Damn. He's got such better.

Speaker 2

Vision than a few different different he different. He l t Danny Thompson, Timson like on this level.

Speaker 3

So if I tell you he Daniy and Thompson, I tell you Saquan is Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1

But out of your mind Barkley is.

Speaker 2

What you being one of those dudes. But he Sao Jackson Like, look, Arry Sentence.

Speaker 4

Arguably be the best running back, the best running So that's what I'm saying, que the best running back of all time.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I feel like it's tangible.

Speaker 4

He can be, but with the injury is kind of put him back. So that's why I get to my point. That's why I feel like b Rock he hasn't scratched the surface yet. And we've seen this guy like even this year, Like you saw some of the runs he had nothing, no lane, no hold, I fight. The holes last year was more open than some of the holes being this year. And he finds a way to get through that thing. And like, I don't even think he knows what he has when it comes to just he can be.

Speaker 2

He can be light on his feet at times.

Speaker 4

He likes to just run people over when he could just put his foot in the ground and get missing, you know what I mean. So that's just what I said. I'm not saying, but I'm saying. You know, I think b Robbins he's the best back in his division and he haven't he hasn't showed yet.

Speaker 5

Again the great ain't happened to him is a Alabama.

Speaker 3

He didn't get a lot of miles put on he's getting he getting his miles put on his as a.

Speaker 1

Pro, I'm not saying. I'm just saying he's gonna leave the team at all purpose shorts. That's what I think he's gonna have. Yeah, he's gonna be probably leading the team in rushing, have enough catches to kind of be by that for a dollar.

Speaker 2

No, he might be.

Speaker 5

I think at the end of the year he'll be the offensive n VP.

Speaker 1

WHOA you think about it, number like Sam or something.

Speaker 3

Yeah, because we spreading the ball out for so many buch and it's gonna be he's the only catalyst just getting it my run, he's getting my catch. So I'm not saying, but I started season off with a reception for a touchdown.

Speaker 2

Now he had two Russian for a test. Now haven't been getting going. You haven't. We haven't even started yet. You know, we just get out the starting blow, all right.

Speaker 1

So now let's get onto our Command Center podcast fantasy recap. It's so bad, are you even doing your team?

Speaker 2

Listen to me.

Speaker 5

Listen to me.

Speaker 3

I am being sabotaged slowly by who I ain't gonna bring up no names?

Speaker 1

Are you? Are you sabitized?

Speaker 2

Semitage?

Speaker 1

You know what?

Speaker 2

Ball? That what happened when you let a I pick the damn team? He ain't want to be a part of the damn draft. But then now he been sabotaged.

Speaker 1

Up there.

Speaker 2

Just Field.

Speaker 3

I would have never picked justin Field. Then I know now I woulda picked Robinson. I like Annon Robinson. Pick them now, don't play them? This week he go out rush for two three touchdowns justin Field and like he ain't playing football.

Speaker 2

FI been set up. And that's why I don't tell you the truth.

Speaker 3

For the last ten years I have been in fantasy leagues, I refuse to pay the bill at the end of the year because of sabotages like this.

Speaker 1

But it sounds like you self sabotage because you could have started whoever you wanted to start.

Speaker 5

He could he could cold.

Speaker 2

Cold email that boy. That boy.

Speaker 1

Hey.

Speaker 2

When I first got in the draft, I'm like, oh, shoot, friend on the jamn his picture, I have any picture he and that thing backfalling the door.

Speaker 5

But you don't know.

Speaker 2

I said, Okay, went on the draft. I knew you wasn't doing it, something like with Fred on his thing. I do.

Speaker 1

So that's fair.

Speaker 4

But when I said, you can't, can't blame, and I when I'm not gonna blame the first week came on, right, Hey, I can blame again.

Speaker 2

Ain't perfect?

Speaker 3

You don't need them, hey, Jason, Yeah yeah, but yeah, you had Mike Evans, who is in a contract year.

Speaker 2

It looks like, first of all, let's just think about something. Mike Evans haven't had a year yet without a thousand yards every crazy year.

Speaker 3

How about somebody year, somebody show listen Baker, they on that it's true. They pushing the ball down to damn bed.

Speaker 1

What do he sorry, Mike Evins six for one seventy one.

Speaker 3

What I'm telling you and I think certain player we just talked about being mad.

Speaker 2

Baker plays better when he's on the dog.

Speaker 3

Yeah, like when he's a running he can't live up to that. But when you tell him you can't do something, man, he gonna bring it out.

Speaker 4

Mike Evans gonna test down. Ain't even saying to bring with the team. He's running straight to the bench and.

Speaker 2

To bring the country on his money. The man throwing the ball and going to.

Speaker 1

The bench, just walking over there getting some water. No one talks bro.

Speaker 2

He's saying that the.

Speaker 1

Speaking of other good receivers. Fletch had Pooka, the Koa, the Chargers rookie receiver from b y U, No, the Rams. Yes, dude getting what he has over. It's over like twenty five or shows you?

Speaker 3

Does this make you out? Cooper Cup a little bit, doesn'll bring.

Speaker 2

Him on earth?

Speaker 4

And I love I love Cooper Cups. So I just feel like anybody in those shoes. But this is what I want to say. I'm not going to throw nothing on Cooper because I like Cooper.

Speaker 1

You kind of want too.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I don't hate it. I'm not springing.

Speaker 5

I'll kiss snail.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna throw it and I can't.

Speaker 4

I can't dumb no hate on Cooper. No, I want to up big up offense. The offense man, the way these guys they mastermind these offenses. The Mike mcdame's the cal shinning hands, you know, shing Uh, you know the other cat up floor Like bro, They when they get a talent to run these places, to run these routes,

they feed you lead through. So let's just say this guy here is just to lead through us Cooper Cup or anybody else who would have got a chance to run these routes, because I have to give him credit. But that offense man second or none. I just love what they do when it comes to getting a guy open.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it is true, and I thought I never thought he was gonna be making it. But so Fletch had Pukka Ryan, our producer had Jamar.

Speaker 2

Chase, who's chasing ain't doing none.

Speaker 3

Ye Chase can't do nothing to Burrow get hot, Like this is the thing Like Burrow he didn't practice enough.

Speaker 2

First of all.

Speaker 4

And I love and I hate to see chasing this situation. But I love when I see stars, guys who considered stars that have to deal with quarterbacks, other quarterbacks than a quarterback. They was come just happened to quarterbacks Like I was that guy did it with it.

Speaker 1

You're like like this is what I was eating.

Speaker 2

And I'm just sitting here watching the game, and I hate it for him. I'm like, this.

Speaker 5

Sucks because he used to a certain level.

Speaker 2

I want the I want the viewers and the people that have to be and be, you know, greating people, who's.

Speaker 4

Gangster, who had the best? See this, you can't do nothing without the quarterback. You know, as a receiver you talk about all the time. That's why you want to pay the position.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we are as good as our quarterbacks and we are hinded. We are as good as.

Speaker 4

The opportunities given given by whatever quarterback. You don't have to be a great quarterback for a receiver to get off. Just give him the opportunity if you don't mind.

Speaker 5

Used to tell a lot of receivers, I ain't shit you down today.

Speaker 2

Blame it. Blame it on your office court.

Speaker 5

Because I was just so real.

Speaker 3

But at the end of the day, that's what That's why I love playing corner because when I'm on the other people's sideline and the offensive coordinator standing right there and I.

Speaker 5

Can go play my games with him and the wide receiver.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's perfect.

Speaker 2

I love it.

Speaker 1

And I lost to the interned Caroline Nice. She had Josh Allen, I had Lamar Jackson. After Lamar Jackson's game, I was like, football, all right, Lamar Jackson had a pretty good game. That Josh Allen comes out with I think four touchdowns, three touchdowns.

Speaker 3

You know he's gonna come back bounce back after the game against the Jets.

Speaker 5

And can we trade players in this league?

Speaker 2

Because I'm doing the trade. I had to trade one.

Speaker 1

Watch him.

Speaker 2

I'm just saying.

Speaker 1

I'm just saying, I mean you can.

Speaker 2

You can trade for the people. It's a bunch. It's a slew of guy still out there waiting to be picked up.

Speaker 1

So when when I got I got up, who's my receiver? Jackson?

Speaker 2

Quarterbacks down? I got three of them.

Speaker 4

I had three quarterbacks in my draft, and brow I had Aaron Rodgers and I got Pat Mahons.

Speaker 1

Start getting all because he you're not supposed to draft quarterbacks.

Speaker 2

Just nobody else want to go to the draft. I'm going to draft dude.

Speaker 5

Got two m vps. This not I got dudes.

Speaker 2

But that just shows you how the fantasy world works. Two of those guys are down right now and done for the year. Yeah, So I had to get him out of there. You know, I had to go get him and then I got washed. I went on trade him for Washington, and that's so fun.

Speaker 3

I got the interview, met the man last night and he's so hurt about the Jets.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he's a big Jets. Arret Wilson is my receiver, he was. I was like, man, Aaron Rodgers is gonna be balling, and you you want to draft Zach Wilson. Have you watched him play? He's not played well.

Speaker 5

The quarterbacks I got, they don't do nothing.

Speaker 1

I got two runners who Anthony Richardson he might mess around to be good this year though.

Speaker 5

No I told you how I feel about Anthony richards play better.

Speaker 1

He's played better than Justin Fields.

Speaker 5

Yes, he has, because I think he got a better head coaching.

Speaker 2

Jason was breaking down Justin Fields his p N of the day.

Speaker 4

I was watching it and he said something that I never knew what he was talking about until Washington, and he said, he say, if you watch how certain quarterbacks drop back, you know, he says, it's it's almost like a you know, like a rhythm, a rhythm.

Speaker 2

He said, Justin Frizz is almost hopping because he don't know where to Yeah, he don't know where to go. And I'm like, I'm sitting there as a guy watching this. I'm like, oh wow, they should just give me slow. He said so slow at times to where like they showed three guys opening the round and he went through it. It was a guyd of scene. They like he.

Speaker 5

Wasn't even and I was like, like, he wait if they ain't.

Speaker 1

They was like, He's how it was last year though, too.

Speaker 4

Yeah, he don't want his shade of no one else's jersey because he's not gonna throw it and.

Speaker 5

Gotta be throw it in them type windows, take off and run.

Speaker 2

I mean, do what you do best.

Speaker 1

So we're gonna see Justin Fields in two weeks, and we're gonna see Josh All this week, so we'll preview that on the next podcast.

Speaker 2

But they use you lose your fantasy this week.

Speaker 1

No no, no, Carolina has Carolina, so I hope she loses. But yeah, so thanks for joining us. Makes you tuned for the preview pod which comes out on Friday. Used in Opedience Express by our podcast guests. Indoor hosts are their own and you're not necessarily reflect the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives.

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