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It has to be real. Thanks to Joseess here for that. One has to be real. What I'm saying at the end of the day, I can understand fans like, you know, the first time it happened, like you know, we've seen great games like this every once in a while. Then it happened again, and it's like, oh, someone the night, maybe they are serious, and then it happens again. This is who we are now, like this is the new reality.
And I think fans that called in on my radio show was I have to tell them it's okay to enjoy this, It's okay to.
Believe it's real.
I've heard some people feeding back saying, I don't know how I feel about it.
You got to enjoy the ride.
Now, enjoyed the ride. That's what I said, And I told him at the end of the day, enjoyed's ride and understanding it's just the beginning of the trip. And yes, is it starting faster than we thought it was, Yes, it is. But what I'm seeing can be replicated. What I'm seeing can be taken on the road. They've shown it all right. All I can say is this, if you believe what I believe, blee eyes, believe what you're saying.
You don't have to lie to yourself and say, you know what, this reminds me of twenty twelve.
This is not twenty twelve.
No, No, this feels a lot different in twenty twelve.
¶ Commanders vs. Cardinals Recap
And can you explain this to me again, because we talked about this on the pre game radio show. And I know it's easy to say Jamie five and some of the RG three, but they're very different quarterbacks.
That's very like this.
They don't throw the ball the same one is a truly natural passer. They don't even run the same run was straight line, a straight line sprinter with no wiggle like a straight line guy, no wiggle and sometimes have problems stopping. The other guy has a glide to him. Jane Daniels has a glide. He's more Randall Cunningham than he is. RG three yep. Elongated throwing motion but quick, a better runner. But I'm actually a passer, like I can pass. I just like to whiponize my legs. So
two different guys. And then when you talk about RG three not as tall as Jane, and j has a clear line of view and he's a better passer as a as.
A first year rookie.
Then I think Robert ever was in his career like he's a natural passer, like that's what he does is throw the ball. So two different guys, two different things. I just think they think about that because number two pick Heisman Trophy women.
They got a tempplate.
This the same, yes, but if you look deeper, you go to the weeds, you find there's a lot of difference in there. And from a leadership standpoint, yeah, totally different, totally different. And Jaden draws people to him, you can just sit. They want to be around him, and that's who you want.
Is your quarterback.
That's a that's an US guy, a wee guy, not a me guy. Is different and quarterbacks are like that sometimes. You know, quarterbacks have been put on the pedals since they was in third grade. Come on, we all been in in elementary and they were like, yeah, this is the quarterback right then he's like the good looking guy and he's taller than everybody, and he's like the coach gonna put the ball in his hand and it's forever happening. But when you get one guy that comes in and say, man,
we're gonna go through this together. Like, I like what the coaching staff did from the time they got him here. They were like, no, this is an US thing. You're a part of the You're a part of the puzzle, and we're gonna make sure we isolate you, we make sure we protect you, we.
Gonna make sure we do all that, but we're gonna do this together.
And I think you can see it coming out of the teammates pours like how they respond to him, trust me everything, And.
I love how he responded after that first interception, first pick off of the year. It was the right call, not a great pass, but you could tell he's just so unflappable where he knew it's the right call. It didn't bother him, and you just put it behind him immediately. And that's another signer of mature quarterback. You gotta let it go because those things are gonna happen, you know what.
I was so glad we finally had this imperfect game, this imperfect game flow, wheal mistakes was made. We had our first offensive turnover. You knew it was gonna have. You don't want that halo hanging over your head like.
Ah, we're perfect. I don't want that.
You want to see them respond to adversity. So happy we saw that Tresway finally got the punt that don't you know? So that mean the office is not going up and down the field, so bounce back from mistakes. This was more a realistic football game than the last two. Yes, because now you have to fight your way back. You have to replace a running back in Echola that was hurt, next man up mentality, you have to go on the road to the West coast.
So so many variables, but at the end of the day.
I felt like I learned more about this team this game than I did the last other two.
And offensively, brother, this team is a wagon because it can beat you in so many different ways. Not only did have JDFI, b Rob was great on the ground another hunt of y'all game, Austin Eckler didn't even play. Cliff was in his bag calling a great game, and then jdfive was spreading the ball around when this see yet, Yeah, how do you defend it?
I don't know, because think about this. The funny thing about b Rod is he scored all of his touchdowns on the road. I own the road in another one hundred yard game. It's like enemy territory brings out the best in them. Like when everybody say if the world is against you, But no, the great greatest thing they did was tell him, let the defense tell.
You where to throw the ball.
Don't try to force it to tery because he's your number one receiver. Don't try to force it to Urge because he a vet. Don't try to force it. Let the game come to you. If he's doing anything, well, it's letting the game come to you. I'm problem solving on the run and I don't make the same mistake twice.
That's what I'm starting to see with him.
He learns from his mistakes and those make the best football players. Because you can't trick him twice. You can trick me one time, yeah, but you can't trick me twice. We were talking about Cliff kingsparriy, Yeah why not? This meant a lot to him. I'm sure you've seen it.
But if you haven't seen it, check it out of him in the locker room after the game, dan quinndick, you gives him a game ball, and it's a really awesome scene to see. But this is a guy who has such a great chemistry with Jayden. It feels like they get each other. And we've seen Cliff slowly sort of build out the playbook as he's trusted Jaden even more and vice versa. They really whatever it is that they have between them, they get each.
Other's call synergy. I checked this out.
We get this pot right here, and I put all this in this pot, all right. Cliff Kingsbury was the head coach of the Arizona Cardinals while j D was the quarterback for the Arizona State.
Devils, so he got to turn on his TV and watch.
Him all the time, and I wonder if it just crossed his mind, I would love to coach.
This guy, wasn't they all right? Turn the page.
Now you also got this guy that then coached Pat Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, so many different pro quarterbacks, and now he got one with the best of both worlds, one with the likeck and legs like Kyler. If he could build a quarterback Frankenstein quarterback in the lab that would probably come out looking like Jaydon Daniels.
So I'm sure that synergy dare him.
Saying, you know what, I'm going to incorporate some of the stuff you did in college, so we ain't turning the page all the way.
So just coaching is everything.
I have always tried to tell people this majority of the football player that make it to the NFL do not stink. All right, they can play this game with football, but we all coach different and the best coach.
Teams wins, and they win all the time.
And now you can see some of the other quarterbacks, some of the other rookie struggle because them in the coaching don't have any synergy. Like think about this, if you was a just one of them hard coordinator's offensive court and they come in and say, hey, I need you learn my offense, learn how to do it, learn the timing of it. We ain't gonna be in You're gonna have to adjust us.
That don't help nobody, right, That don't you're not you're not acknowledging a player's strengths to weeks and playing to those strengths.
So you saying my scheme is discremt. Yes, that's what you're saying, And this is why you would fail in this league.
That's why they have a meetings with.
All other teams, with the offensive coordinator right now saying, you know, maybe we need to shrink it, condense it, do what he does best. And I was always wonderful coach. Why would you draft a talent like that and don't do what he does best? Like like you're selling yourself short. I totally agree with that.
Coming up later on the pod, Pfke commenter is going to be in here, yeah, from the part My Take podcast, and also Logan will join us. Logan Foster later on in this show, and we're gonna ask him about his nose.
He's gonna tell us everything he knows. About his nose. That's good man.
Can we ask or can we sit a shout out to Jeremy McNichols.
Yes we can. Now you talk about the guy that the coach is believed in.
He's bounced around this league for a long time, but I loved seeing him have a day on Sunday Penny dime.
Ni course, all right, Hey, that's what you call next man up. I've been waiting for this chance three four years. You give me this and go out there and say, you know not, can you replace Ekla?
Can you give us some similar to what he can give us?
And I think he went out there and he did that, And I love the next man up mentality of this team.
They saying, we.
Got fifty three guys on this roster, and I'm not afraid to play any other fifty three. I've been on rosters where our coach did not want to play certain guys. Well, why are they're on our roster? Like, that's what the question I want to know. If you're afraid to play them, that means they can't help you keep your own job while they on the team.
And can I also say, this is when it matters that you have management, you have ownership that says we're going to do what it takes. We're going to do the extra things to win. Because this team could have come back to DC, gone all the way way back west and instead they said, no, we'll spend the extra money trucking. You guys, keep going. It'll make it easier on you and think like that make a huge difference.
Yes, it is, because now you get I get acclimated to the weather, the elevation, whatever I need to get acclimated to think about it. Ain't no travel this week. We've already traveled, right, Ain't no travel this week. So we're good. We understand, and it makes it all business, no play. These guys could have easily came back after that Monday night game, came home walking through Wickman's at the grocery store, everybody cheering them home, padding the bag.
They went right back to work. So it's a worker's mentality. And when they played the game, work of mentality. And I give them this. We were more physical than the Cardinals on offense, defense, and special teams.
You're gonna win every game if you do that. The Cardinals quift in physically that week.
That's what you do when you impose your will on another team. And that's why I give all the proper to the old line, like I gave the Old Line props and the D Line beat up the Old line.
Trench warfare is where games are won.
JINX would love to tell you you living Fred Smooths can go out there and win that game.
They can't. It's about the big boys, man, It's about their bacon. Man. We don't do breakfast with that bacon. You gotta not make sound, not a sound sound. Let's spend those bills. We'll talk about the defense. Why not.
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I know a gospel between that and you're saying at the beginning listen, I'm getting emotions.
No, it's gospel.
Everybody in the all the Washington fans right now are getting emotional right now.
We are in what I call a sports equal Knox. Okay, all right, think about it.
We have a young, hungry football team, hot draft pick, living up to it in baseball the Gnats. James wood is every day you think he is any more. Yeah, he ain't the only draft pick we got on that team, all right, young, youthful, just like the football team.
And here come the Wizards.
Which is the shaky one out of all of them, because we don't know what we don't know what's sience yet, but we know we got some young talent on that team in the Capitals. They redid that whole roster right now. This is what we call the sports equal NOx. It gonna be a time in the next three to ten years where we can go to every sports team event and all of them gonna be winning.
All of them gonna be winning. We're gonna the.
Washington command this game and be like, yeah, Jacks, I'm going to see the Wizards from another want to see it Ain't gonna be nothing like walking around town and holding your head up, hide and poking your chests out. No matter what the sports is, no matter what the sports is, we are in a glory spot right now. People just need to remember that we're in a spot right now. If you a Washington fan base guy, you should be loving this right now.
Well, until that happens with the Wizards, we're at the beginning of something special. It certainly feels that way with the Commanders. So what about the defense? I was impressed with. There's still some work to do, but I really thought the defensive line stepped.
Up Thorn's armstrong.
Yeah, doing's arms grong unbelievable yesterday, and they were finally getting to the quarterback and bringing him back and say.
They've been getting to a quarterback, they just haven't been completing the mission. And what arms Grong did yesterday said, hey, I got the wink link.
I'm past rushing every place.
Yeah, that's him and Beacham he worked him over right there.
Oh.
John Allen got his first second of the year. Payne got a sack, Louisvu got a sack. Right, So guys were getting after it, like that's what you want to do.
And it's difference. I always tell people this.
It's a reason why Payton Manning and Tom Brady's defensive backs always went to the Pro Bowl. It's the reason why they Eagles defensive backs always went to the Pro Bowl because they always.
Play with the lead.
Yeah, and when you play with the lead, my defensive line is past rushing instead of run Russian and the DB's of jumping routes because you have to throw the ball again back. It's totally a total difference in it. In my years, we was always playing thirteen to ten games. I couldn't chant certain things. But you're up by twenty points. Yeah, we're jumping routes as DB's we're making plays.
We're making it little more confidence to take that risk. Oh yeah, I can take that risk because it won't kill us, it won't end the game.
So at the end of the day, you're gonna see these guys play with a whole other level as they play together, like fourth game together, and it looks better already. Yeah, well it's gonna even look even better in the seven, the Night Game, the twelfth game.
And by the grace of God, we have been blessed with a healthy roster so far. Yeah, that's true. So everything seemed to be going our way right now.
But on defense, I think there's a couple of enforces out there that's making guys don't want to play us.
Jeremy Chin has been great.
Is hitting them right there? You hitting them right there? Frankly Louvu all right, LOLU was a missing He's just he's just a missile. That's the way he plays. Bobby Wagner, Yep. The physicality is there, Kwan Martin. The physical is Listen, the Special Teams with Izzo is so physical. And this dude, I've seen Snat go down there and give a snock bubble to somebody. Right, it's just guy at.
The guy at the guy that I'm seeing this team has a makeup and they have a vision and they understand how they want to play.
And it's fast and it's physical.
I was just gonna say that because you always hear football teams and they'll throw out things like that, fast and physical.
But it's one thing to talk about it, it's another thing to be about it. But this is a team that has actually embraced that type of culture. Yeah, living in the real they're living in.
And now Tyler Owens has been a special team heathen, he's been listen, kickoff team. That's so that just show when you get a guy like Iso. I played against is Isoe was all gas, no breaks, and they're taking his they're taking his his visual on They said, no, we don't play just like he used to play. And they're doing it on all three sides of their special teams.
Like, think about it.
We probably got the number one kickoff return team in the league. And don't forget we had one call back.
That's true. We probably got the number one kickoff team right now. So I pun him has punted one time in three weeks. Our kicker has yet to miss a field goal.
Finally about kicking, think about these things people, because everybody want to know if this is real.
I'm giving you the reasons why this is real. This is real, This travels is real.
So when you have the guys up front talked about the d line, talking about the linebackers, we know the secondary has.
Been a weakness, but no, they were good. They played good. They played good against the Cardinals.
But how much easier does it make their job when you have the guys up front doing their jobs and pressuring the quarterback instead of giving a guy like Kyler Murray plenty of time in the pocket.
A clean quarterback mean clean jersey throws for three hundred.
A quarterback with a dirty jersey spots everywhere that's been on their ground. He makes mistakes and that starts with the defensive line. And now they're playing connected. What I saw from the defensive backfield that really gave me hope. The way they was communicating in Arizona.
So much better. I could tell.
I was like, Okay, they're gonna make some place today because they're making their jobs easier. Like usually early in the season, guys was picking them because they know we were gonna play man and man well, not an end and out net. That means you see the last time. I'm still inside. We're not gonna be running cross each
other's face. They're under The game is slowing down for them right now, and since they just started playing together, they're just starting the troubleshoot with each other right now. Situational football, that's how football is. What you're gonna do on third down? On office, were dominating on third down? Yeah, on defense, we wouldn't. But this game, we came out there and we was a lot better on defense than we had been the early in the season.
You know, I love about that too, because after the Bucks game there was all sorts of problems with communication, and Joe what Junior came out and said, look, we got to communicate better. And I don't want to talk about it. I want to know that you're talking, and I want the person you're talking to to acknowledge that they heard you.
And so they're taking to their coaching.
Yes, first of all, you hear a great defense before you see a great defense. That mean you hear us talking to each other before you feel us. You hear us talking to each other before the play start. You hear us communicating with each other because we're actually trying to set each other up to go make plays, make each other job.
Easier, and that's what you're seeing.
But I tell people be a be patient hashtag let Grandmama cook. Well, y'all gotta understand Grandmama is Joe whit too. Give him some chance to incorporate what he wants to do, and they can get him some time to learn how.
He want it done.
Now, it's trying to take that moving forward against the Browns and coming up, you're gonna talk with PFT comedy and really just lean into all the excitement we're feeling here.
And you know he's just over the moon right now. Yes, sir,
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welcome to get loud and with my guid PFT come in.
And I cannot wait to see how he feels about what's going on with the Commanders right now, because we talked before the season and both of us was like, you know, we optimistic, we feel like it's a new start.
We gotta be kind of patient. Tell me where you're at right now, brother.
I can't remember the last time I was just happy as a football fan. I really can't like. It feels weird in a very good way. It's it's kind of foreign to me. But the last two weeks especially have just been I've been watching all the highlights. I've been going on YouTube at night when I can't sleep, watching people on national broadcast talk about just how good the commanders look. I'm just gonna soak in all this right
now because I'm new to it. This might be like the New Money experience where I don't I don't know how to act because I haven't been there before. So you can't expect me to act right because I'm just I'm not built for that.
Right now, Well, you know what, I'm happen to do that on my radio show, tilling the fans that it's okay to be happy. It's like right now, the Commander's fans, it's like they don't want to jump the gun.
But you say, it's more or less because we ain't had it, we don't know how to do it, We don't know how to enjoy it winning anymore.
Yeah, yeah, that's I think there's actually something to that. And I've been thinking about it because I have some friends who are like Jaguars fans. I've got some friends who are Bears fans, and I started, really I would I'm starting to feel guilty about how you know, Like, I don't know if that's imposter syndrome or whatever it is, but I'm sure that if you give me enough time, I'll become very comfortable with rooting for a winning team. But man, it's been so fun these first four weeks.
And I was at that Monday night game in Cincinnati and seeing all the Commanders fans up there was it was something special. I was so glad that I got to be there in person for that. And I'm excited to see what was it, Northwest Federal Credit Union Field.
Oh yeah, yeah, feel we got it. We got it. I think we're gonna call it to feed house. This is what I'm gonna call it.
Okay, I like that fed smoot is what they're gonna sut on. I am excited to see a true home field advantage this weekend. Like I think that Commanders fans are gonna show up for this game. I think that it's going to be an environment like we haven't seen in years.
There, Take me because you talked, you brought up the Cincinnati game and it was a Jane Daniels coming out party. All right, take me into the stands with you as a fiend. Now, I heard that we we had tons of fans there, and I can see it on TV. But take Goods there, take me inside of this stadium.
Okay, So if you're gonna be next to me in the stadium, you've probably got two to four beers in each hand. You're strapped, you're holding to yourself, you're having the time of your life. You're just saying, oh my god, he's so good, over and over again. That's what I did. I said, oh my god, this guy is so good for probably four hours non stop. On that Terry pass, on the play that essentially sealed the game, I was
at the opposite end of the stadium. I was in the second row of the other end zone, so I couldn't see that Terry made that catch. All I saw was like a bunch of linemen some referees in front of me. I couldn't tell what happened. All I knew was the stadium went dead quiet right afterwards, and I was like, that's something good. That means that something good just happened. But Sin Satti fans were actually, they were
very cool. They were obviously not happy that their team lost, but I think they were just glad that they got to see Jaden because that's how good he played that game. And I've been going back and looking at all the stats and just reading them back to myself. His streak that he had with two games scoring at every possession for this offense, and credit to Cliff and really the offensive line too. The offensive line has been way better
than I think any of us ever thought. And I do think there's a little bit of I don't know what the word for it is. Is it synergy? When Jayden helps the offensive line and then the offensive line also helps Jaden. I think that they're for whatever reason, the offense is clicking right now and that has been
a real bright spot for me as a fan. But man, I saw I saw that stat about two games in a row scoring on every possession and Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning combinedly do that twice in their career, and Jaden Daniels did it twice in three games. And I mean, this is just this is just the best drug that I've ever experienced. Like having a winning football team and being so fun to watch is just it's made my whole life better. I wake up with a smile.
Hey, I feel you.
It's something about the cup of coffee in the morning after your team win, right, it's just so about it. And we went through so much franchise quarterback withdrawal over the years.
Well we didn't have that quarterback right now.
Is a Washington fan, don't you just walk into every game knowing you have a change, Like we have a change no matter how this game turns out, we have a change because of number five and how he's playing.
We get the ball back on offense. I'm excited he releases a past. I'm excited. I'm not feeling anxiety about Oh no, where's this past going to go? Is it gonna be a pick six? I'm feeling good. I'm feeling confident. And yeah, it's crazy you're talking about like waking up and the cup of coffee hits different. I'll tell you what it's different, Carrie Underwood singing her song leading into
Sunday night football. That hits different. After you've just won a game in that fashion that we won last weekend, everything's better. The world's a little bit brighter with Jayden out there. So I am. Yeah, I'm very happy man.
Right now, now, we got to get the quarterbacks love because this who get the loveday. You know, if you're in a board bad usually the quarterback is Michael Jackson. All right, just the way it go. But we got to show some love to the other guys in the band too. Is it any other player just sticking out to you? And you're like, oh my god, this guy, Like, is it anybody else?
And who's Tito? Who's Tito Jackson?
Yeah, who's just the question.
I mean, I'm happy for Terry, I'm very happy for him. But Jeremy McNichols has been awesome the last two weeks, and he is a guy that's been in the background for a lot of his career. The pass protection that he had against the Bengals was incredible. His game and his past protection. He's running and his pass pro against the Cardinals was also excellent. So I'm just I'm happy for that dude too, getting a chance and being able to show up. B Rob has been great with the football.
I love his violent running style. Yeah, it looks to just run into your face and run your face over. I love watching that. And then yeah, in terms of other guys, our defensive line looked really, really good against the against the Cardinal. The guys who were getting sacks were coming off the edge, so got to show them love. And yeah, I think our defense dan Quinn might be starting to work a little bit of magic here, because that looked like a liability in week one and a
little bit in week two. And obviously had some struggles guarding Jamar Chase. He's a great receiver and Joe Burrow is a great quarterback. But what we saw last week was maybe it's maybe we turned the corner with our defense a little bit.
Yeah, no, it's starting to jail. But I also got to say this is a form of football player. I understand in the league, talent is almost the same. What makes us different is leadership and coaching. And I gotta say with dan Quinn, I think he's been awesome. He's changed his environment. Cliff Kingsbury has been in his bag
when it's come to calling these plays. So I think as much as we want to give Jaden all the love, Cliff Kingsbury did this for Kyler Murray as a rookie also, so maybe we have to show Cliff.
Some love and his play call.
Yeah, Cliff has been outstanding. Whatever he's doing, don't touch anything. Just keep this going. You can call us the college offense all you want. I'll take that. If we're scoring like seventy points like JMU, they're a college offense, I like seventy points on the board.
You know.
Like, I think whatever's been going on has been working.
Now.
I have started to think, and you always this is like the luxury that you have when you have a good offense. Is there going to be a team that's going to try to hire your offensive coordinator as a head coach next season.
We can't worry about it. We can't.
We can't worry about it yet. I just hope that doesn't happen. But whatever's going on right now, let's just not touch anything and let's keep it going.
I think coach Kingsbury is enjoying getting back to the basics. As a head coach, he had.
To kind of watch over all fifty three guys and run a whole organization. But right now he's getting the focus only on offensive play college And I think this where he's in his bag is too many time that we get these coaches and then they get elevated and then they lose a little, they luster, and we that when you a coordinate him. How you focused on his twenty five thirty guys, but when you hit coach, it's fifty three guys.
Yeah, it's a different job. And some guys are built to be great coordinators, and for whatever reason, being a head coach doesn't always click with him. And I'm thinking about Brian Flores up in Minnesota, a great coordinator, outstanding coordinator, didn't really work out for him as a head coach. Cliff might be that guy. I don't know. I don't know too much about him. All I know is whatever he did when he took the one way trip to Thailand, Yeah, it flipped him and so that let that be a spread.
Have you ever been to Thailand.
I haven't been to Thailand, but now I'm finna go buy a ticket since you said there, maybe my fortunes to go up too.
Yeah, yeah, that'll be a fun trip. One way ticket is a wild move, by the way to a forefront country. And he said he was thinking about getting out of coaching on that trip, and I'm glad that he didn't.
Most definitely, sometimes you have to go find yourself. He's not the first person that I've heard say I gotta go find myself. I got you know, I need to go clear my head, and Tyler, it seems like a great place to clear your head. Brother, Thank you for coming on, thank you for always being there, and we're gonna talk more in this season. Now we're gonna keep going, Wenna. If we go do a bad patch, I'm still gonna call you up. If it's still on a good foot,
I'm still gonna call you up. Give me your gifts. Just tell me what you think is gonna happen this weekend. It gets to Cleveland Browns.
Okay, I think it's gonna I don't know if you can cuss on this show, so I have to censor myself. Yes you can, Okay, we're gonna We're gonna tick their teeth in. It's gonna be awesome. And like there's if you talk about two different trajectories of teams right now in terms of where their fan base is, where their mentality is at. I feel like this is it's about to be some destruction and it's gonna be fun to watch. So I'm looking forward to that. I do I feel
a little bit bad for Trustway. He's my boy. I've been supporting Trustway the end of the years, thinking thin he's been a bright spot for us. I got a Trustway jersey. Credit to trust for giving his number up to Jaden. That's a leadership move right there. That's a
great strategy. By the way, if you're a kicker, if you're a punter and your team's not very good, just get the number of the quarterback that you think you're going to draft, and then he'll pay you some money once he gets there, and you can you can slip that number right over. I feel bad for not seeing Trustway out on the field that much, but he I guess he's deserved some time off.
No, No, this to gift that Jaden promised to him. He gave him his jersey and Jayden said, you have never had to pun again.
So there it go. This the way this thing is right now?
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
And I've been thinking all the craziest thoughts in my head about how good this team can be. Right now, I think it's realistic to say we're the best team in the NFC East. I don't think that that's even that.
No, No, that's true of today, that's true.
Yep, yep. Look at the numbers and I think that if if our defense can even play, if we can kind of hold steady at being like a sixteenth ranked defense in the NFL, Yeah, I think I think we can win some playoff games.
Don't get it.
It's a long way.
I'm getting had to PFT. We're gonna take these one week in time, brother, one week at a time.
¶ Geek Out
I'll leave that up to the coaches. I'm thinking so far in a few I'm thinking about how happy I'm going to be in ten years.
Right now, brother, Well, thank you for coming on to get Loud podcasts. Man, this is my gifts right here. PFT comment. Can't wait to talk to you again.
Brother, got to see it. Fred.
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This is what I do, all right.
That you know this.
Geeks out there in the world.
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That's a good fact. They good ones. They see the world. No, no, they see the world in slow motion. Chip Monks do logans here by the way, Yeah, and we're talking about it happened so fast because you guys are because you're processing on a lower level they are.
That's real interesting. Yes, So they perceived time differently.
They perceived time faster than we do.
They perceive light light, but I don't know if they received time.
Listen, they move on a faster chord than we do. Roadans do, that's why they do. We didn't invite him on Hit the Ruin Show.
That's what we did.
Time like, you know what That's why I like to talk to Papa Paul, not him, popa Pa.
If you told my dad that fact, you would have like a quantum physics board up here.
Let's talk about wormhole like. It's interesting you mentioned that. Pull out the white board.
It's intellectually me and Papa pauls are more compatible than me and logo.
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On?
All right, I'll give you another yes, all right? Almost a trivia?
What's the only two American states to never have a temperature over one hundred degrees?
Alaska has got to be one? That's so easy, low hanging fruit. They go want what's come on?
Man?
You can't give us a question and criticize or answer They was right.
They're correct. What's what's the other else?
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It has been over one hundred degrees. Montana it's been over her degree don't get yellowstone. There. Is it near a body of water? Yes?
It is?
Is it near a great lake?
No it's not.
It's near a great body of water? Is it? Hawaii? Is Hawaiian?
Only two Alaska and Hawaii has never had one hundred degree weather days.
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I lost it to a long horn a Texas cow, and now I gotta pay you off in Cow ironic.
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¶ Voicemails
good man, all right, off my bits. Okay, Now it is time. I'm giving Anna some time to get her voicemails. She's ready to go. Hello, how are you?
I'm doing great? Are I'm just grateful we got the show up and running. We got Calea back in the control room, the crews back together. I'm so grateful, Aesome, I'm grateful we got a studio. So I'm going to cue up our first voicemail and I think i'll explain why try it up after let's hear it.
Hold on.
Well, as I know I'm linked to the party, but Fred, I'm hoping you can get some inside information. After Jaden missed that first throw, that overthrow to Terry, it looks like I don't know if there was a time out, but they went over to the sideline and Jaden immediately found Terry and whispered something.
In Terry's ear.
Harry got away to go and watching on TV.
But it looked like Jayden started to mouth I'm not missing that again or something like that. Can you find out what Jaden said to Terry when he came over and whispered in his ear, because at that moment, I thought he went over and said, I'm not missing that again.
Stick with me, I got you.
That was the moment I realized that Jayden was that dude. He had all the skills to saw the passing, to see the improvement between weeks. But when I saw him walk over to Terry with that and say something to him, recognizing Terry's the vet, knowing that Terry has been here for so long, knowing that they've been struggling to get it like just the moment, and recognizing all of that as a rookie band of leader. That's when I knew and I want to know what he said.
I need you to figure that out for me. So this call is after the band question.
It was more of a let's talk when the communication when you're off the field, like what are those discussions like between quarterback wide receiver Logan's here he played on the offense.
Did you ever have those discussions?
If you can figure out exactly what was said, I'm gonna have to do some locker room investigation, right I have to give my Matt Locke on.
I could talk to Tyry and figure out what it is, But now I want us to guess what he said. What do you think it was? Was it the three magic words? I love you?
What? What do you think he whispered me? I think being serious, it's probably just Jadeen being accountable and saying something like that's on me. We're going to get this, like I got you, like like we'll be back just kind of like saying, like, my bad, We're going to get you the football.
That's it. I think he probably said we coming back to that.
I think because if I overthrew it, yeah, I know the coverages are not ready for it. I just missed it the first time. Yeah, So I think he just told him we're coming back to that. I don't know when, but we coming back to that.
What you think of you have no idea what he said.
I mean, I think, you know, like when you miss a throw, anytime you get communication with the quarterback is extremely important. I think you know, when you look at the interception from last game, like bak him off to
the sideline, that a little pow wow. And they talked about how you know, he wants Terry to run a little bit differently and Terry said he could have been it more and like those are the types of communications that I think help an offense like develop and come together because it's like you have to see the coverage the same way. And so even on the one that Terry that they miss right, like Terry could because of the coverage he could have taken that high, you could
have taken it flat. Yeah, and they just run the same page and so that comes with reps, that comes with opportunity, that comes with the communication. So I think Jayden being aware of that going to Terry, trusting Terry is an important part. But I'm sure he does that with every receiver in the offense because like when you talk to really elite quarterbacks, like when I was with Matt Ryan in Atlanta, for example, he knew how everybody
ran a comeback. So there's six receivers, they all run a little bit different head to throw a different ball for each one, and that's what makes those guys, those top end guys, extremely special. So I don't know what he said, I'm sure with something like Janks said, like we'll come back to what's going on the same page.
Back to go. Yeah, you get and get more from me. Maybe it is not football related, what about subway, loose sandwich? It could have been anything. All right, are you ready for the next question? The shows wild?
Hey, smooth, smooth.
I know you're a scholar and what you do and you do that.
What you do, you're great at what you do and have done. And I don't see just some research for me, my noise early that is a possibility. Have we ever had a rookie other year. Also the m v P in the NFL. Has there ever been a rookie other year and m v P at the same time in the NFL? You a scholar, smook, I know you, I know you got that answer.
You are right, and you are and you could google this. It's like, not sooth what you got. I googled it.
I'll be curious to know if you guys.
Nobody I think has. And then the modern era has been a rookie m v P. But r G three was a I mean rookie.
Is this for the Is this.
No, it would not have Mett.
I think he got last Offensive Rookie of the Year, right, r G three, Right, yes, yes, I don't think we've ever had a m v P of the league. But we had one m v P of the league. Mark Moseley, the kicker.
Yeah that's right, Mark Moseley, the kicker and the striker. Right is that the strike here?
Yeah?
Yeah, one m v P kicking.
So they go, I m v P, they go, I last Offensive Player of the Year, I mean a Rookie of the year r G three, Mark.
This is just for the league though, right, Yeah? Before the league has there ever been.
And I say, I'm gonna say, pre World War two, there's probably somebody that like, graduated from Army, played college football some place and was like, you of the greatest running back of all time.
That's a good Yeah, probably Jim Brown, that's correct.
No way, no way, this scholar, he said, you heard him call me a scholar.
He didn't know it.
It's just crazy how misguided that answer is by that fan to call you a scholar.
But I proved him right.
He did.
That proved him right easily. My first GISs and it was instead of he's gonna text you, I told you, man, huh what year was that, Hannah? Do you have it? Nineteen fifty seven? Wow? Not pre World War two?
No, I'm honestly kind of shocked you got that. Every time Fred surprises.
Me, did you give him access to these questions before?
No?
She did, because I remember one time we did a show and I thought like it was about like barnyard animals or something crazy like that on the Command Center podcast, and you knew every answer, and.
I was like, oh my god, that's incredible.
That is so smart. How did he know that?
And then Jason's like, I told the questions before him. So he looked him up, but I was like, I never looked him in the moment.
I was like, Man, one that I don't do because I like to go against I'm almost anti Google because I think you should learn it with doubt somebody giving it to you.
This is being exclusively me spros right now. I know it comes up on my fun fact. What's I got?
Yeah, well, I do like well, I chick in for fun facts all the time. It just pops up on my screen.
Oh, my gosh, you ready for our last voicemail?
Right?
What's up? My gosh, let me just say, Man, Smooth, you're my guy.
You've always been my guy.
Jinks. Man, I remember you from the sport, so I'm so glad you're back. We got to have your voice as a commander. Guy, Man, you're you're the guy.
Oh Man.
There's one thing that I've been noticing. I've listened to the sports, I've been listening to all the radio shows.
¶ Offensive Deep Dive with Logan Paulsen
Nobody's really mentioned that even though the defense gave up a lot of points, they was out there trying to get that football man. They was at their tackling hard. Even if the Bengals got a first down, we hit them hard. I heard the helmets cracking. Smell, you're a defensive guy. Man, We're gonna give them some props. They're gonna they're gonna come around. Hey, they gave up a lot, but when these crunch times, they actually came through.
Man.
Appreciate you guys for listening. Peace.
Peace, What a calling man's And we've had some. I feel like that's probably the best one because he was correct because the defense is coming around.
The defense is starting to show their true colors, which I told people hashtag lick grandmama cook, be patient.
I understand.
And they're not gonna do it overnight. These guys just got together. They just starting to play together and they just throwing the j got a lot of it.
No, I agree.
And I think you know, one of the things when you look at the Cincinnati Bengals, because I think that's what that calls.
Yeah, a few of our calls were from the Bengals a.
Game which is so exciting for sure, And I think like one of the things that sticks out to me is like Joe Burrow is a special player, right, so it's gonna he's gonna make any defense look a little bit and then average. And then I think when you compare that to Arizona, you see some of the struggles that Kyler Murray has from the pocket. You see the game plan that Joe Woo's able to cultivate to kind of keep him in there, able to stop the run a little bit better, and the physicality is showing up.
And so I think when you play teams that aren't his talented, they don't have a Joe Burrow, I think you're going to see kind of this team come to life. And I think when you look at the games where they have struggled, Tampa Bay is another one that offense was so complicated Week one, I don't think we've seen kind of the best version of this yet because they're still learning, they're still figuring each other out.
So I definitely think it's going to improve.
And again, like you know, calling the game from the booth, like the physicality that that group played with against Arizona was really spect and even a.
It's the Cardinals, did you feel like it certainly looked like the defensive line finally stepped up and was pressuring Kyler collapsing the pocket, and it made things easier on the secondary because John Allen, dran Payint've goten some criticism early in the season, but yesterday all those guys are really.
Owen som Scrown came was great from the first play to the last play.
Gave that tackle, healed allright, Hell yeah, he did the whole.
Game and my unsound hero of the defense because of his physicality. And this started in the Cincinnati game. It's Jeremy Chen. Well, Jeremy Chen. Every time I look up when.
I'm hearing these these helmets cracking, no of me living is around that ball.
So he's done song he wrote for me that nobody's really talking about.
Yeah, I feel like he's really finding his legs a little bit in terms of like how he's fitting in the defense, and his flexibility is versatility. Mean, he makes a tackle on special teams which was extremely physical, he makes it, makes a great coverage play. So yeah, he's he's definitely showing up and again for his ability to play in the box, play in the post. I think he's gonna really add value as the season goes on and give them flexibility in terms of what they can
do from a coverage standpoint, which is exciting. But like you said, James It's great to see the defensive line come alive. And you know, like obviously Kelvin Beacham was on IR or not on R, but he was hurt all weekend, So if he's not ready to go, like, let's take advantage of that. And I think, like you said, there was times where he's getting pressure off the edge.
There's people open in the back end, but Kyler can't get there because the pressure so so cute, so really cool to see that group starting to come together, and obviously the middle of that defense is playing really good football too.
I thought the secondary communication wise was on point. Like I seen him literally through the screen. I seen him communicating. I've seen him called and that chicks. I seen him boxing thing. I seen him going next level when it comes to play. So now they're playing the mental game. It ain't just physical, playing the mental side of the game.
I was going to say, like, there was a play I forget.
I think it was a third down where they motioned to a bunch and everyone's communicating. Then they motioned to a two by two and then they get to a stack. Yeah, I think it's noeg Monoghany and Sandracho will communicate like we're going to in and out this and so no one gets picked, no one loses, and that's something that early in the season that I think right, So again like this them come alive to see Frankie Louvo getting
people directed, then it's it's good defensive football. And again it's just going to continue to get better as guys get more and doctrinated in the system.
Outside of Jaden, who stood out to you offensively, this is the first time that this team has scored thirty eight points in back to back game since nineteen ninety one, that monster's season. Yeah, the great, that's the great team. So this is a real Jugger. I mean they can beat you in different ways. Different guys have stepped up. Jade was spreading the ball around. But outside of Jaden, who's impressed you guys?
I mean, for me, it's Cliff Kingsbury, and I know that's maybe like, well, oh, you're right. The way he's called games has just been really awesome. Like the way he uses quick game, the way he uses multiple personnel, the way he uses different formations, the way he gives Jaden easy answers.
And again, like Jayden, like I went back and watched all the dropbacks from last.
Two games this morning before I came in, and he's making you right like he's doing a lot of really high level stuff. He's knowing when to scramble, his release, the quickness that the ball gets out of his hand on the quick game stuff specifically, it's really special.
But Cliff has just.
Done such a nice job of calling the game, like you can tell you he's in his bag a little bit, like just the rhythm of it. I know when I can get to this heavy twenty two personnel run, I know when I can get to this keeper. I know when I can take this shot, and the protection's gonna line up and everything seems to be locked in. So I think he deserves a lot of credit.
I think when you talk about Kingsberg, think about this. He was the head coach at the Cardinals. Why Jayden was playing for Arizona State, so he micro got to see him in his back yard. So then he comes to the team and we get to the draft. I really do think if we had the number one.
Pick, they still would have chose Jane Dames, Like.
I really do feel it, and I believe because he had time to see him in the micro so once he got hold of him. That's why I think he's right with this. He understood how I can call this a little different than I called with Kyler murder. I need to get Klum moving for a different reasons. I need to get him moving for height reasons. I don't have to move him. I'm getting him moving, just get the ball out of his hand. So it's a whole
different layer of theme. But if I had to say to me, who is the reason for the season so far, it's gonna be that office a line. It gonna be tight, to be hotish, sam cop it allegorate, it gonna be dead officeive line.
They have exceeded what people put in. They left.
And I said in obviously like everybody throwing these sticks and stones at this office of line.
I think they need to give them a chance. They need to give them a chance to jail.
And I think when you win trench warfare, you got a chance to win any game in football, and right now we're winning in the trenches.
I got a question for you, and I think I mentioned this last week, but I'm curious as to your thoughts. The one thing that makes Jade and I think, well, one of the many things that makes him special is he's so accurate. I mean, he could throw it in
the super tight windows. And I read a quote from the late Mike Leech just a couple of weeks ago, and he was saying, you know, the biggest problem that people make projecting quarterbacks is you can talk about how physical a guy is, how athletic he is, how smart he is, but if you're not accurate, it's hard to teach accuracy to get better. But he's always been an
accurate quarterback. And man, has that translated perfectly That that's a real weapon when you're that smart, you're that athletic, and you're that accurate.
Yeah, I think that shows up tremendously.
Like you know, it's it's one of those things where it's like it's the processing, it's the physicality, but the accuracy too. Like there was a couple like where they're running like simple quick game concept says and the window is so small, or even the first down to Moz where he runs a little return route and Buddha Baker's running down from that quarter safety look to go get him and he puts the ball right on the outside
shoulders able to catch it and fall forward. If that ball is anywhere else, that's not a first down.
And it's the same ball he threw to Noah Brown where he almost sighed to him and put it right to where the dB can't get to it. You can't teach accuracy, and it's hard to teach touch, like because most guys be like, oh, he got a candy, he could throw eighty yours, but if you throwing me a teen pays like it's an eighty, you a bomb.
That's what tip balls happen. That's where interceptions happen.
So knowing when in the gage weened to whip it in there, we end to put some touch on it like he's playing beyond.
His years, like he had that out.
I think I think it was terry you know where there it's like it's cover three and the hook players dropping under the out, so you can't throw it on a line that's gonna get picked off. But the ability to like touch that ball, I kind of get the chipping wedge out, chip it over that, and.
I think that's been another really impressive.
Like you mentioned the accuracy, but the variation of throws which you get to see in training a camp and see those start to applying out of the field is really really impressive and.
He's, uh, he's special man.
And it's not it's the accuracy, but it's just like right now, through these two games, it's been the consistency, Like I can't remember a quarterback just consistently making the right decision down in and down out the way he's done. Like you think there's some mental fatigue, you see, you think there's some issue there, but even the interception of Terry, like that's the right decision, just not quite on the
same page. And I just think, like, gosh, like I've never seen anybody do it, Like even Tom Brady when he is at his peak, you'd see, oh, like an air and throw or the balls in the dirt.
But I don't know.
It just seems like something that's tenable. But he keeps bringing that consistency to the party.
He's comfortable, like he's comfortable before he should be comfortable. That just show you nothing is too big for him.
And I keep hearing, well, defenses will adjust, which is true, but also he's only played four games, so he will get better as well.
I can say a gest to what what you're gonna just to stop in the run, then he gonna pass it on you. You're gonna stop the passing and I run on you like it ain't even enough film yet for you to adjust to him. Like what he is doing throwing wise is pseudo normal, which rookies shouldn't be normal at this time. You see what Caleb going through, You see what both Nick's going through. The speed of the game makes them have to play ketch up. He's
not playing ketchup. And it has a lot to do with coaching, but it also has a lot to do with the person. So as a defense, right now, what did we talk about before last week? I said, if they gonna play those those zones, He's probably gonna move over wide receivers out wide to force them to show themselves. Budobaker has to come now if then why it splits. He can't hide that type stuff. So just having an office of mine in there making it less money for him, and I think that's good.
And I think to that point, like you kind of expect them to adapt, but like the like so for example, Arizona, they were a big zone pressure team, like Fred was talking about.
They brought a lot of zero pressure.
At least in the games leading up, and they didn't really do it that much, and I wonder if it's because they are worried about Jane Daniels. So instead of instead of blitzing, they ran a lot of.
Spy, which I was not expecting.
I wasn't expecting to run so much spy, and when you do that, you get simpler covered structures. So maybe like this is kind of like how it was with RG three in twenty twelve. Is like, because of his ability to run, his ability to scramble, we got we played Cover three. Every team played Cover three versions parallel. Even teams that didn't run Cover three were running Cover three. And so maybe that's what you're getting into here, is like they can only adapt so much because of what
he can do from the pocket. And again I think Cliff I got to give him credit. Like his ability to utilize formation and personnel. I know we're not using a ton of motion, but to kind of dictate matchups pre snap is so incredible. Like there was a play in the game where they're getting a four by one. There's four receivers to the right b Robs and the he's the fourth slot over there, and this one guy to the left to snow a Brown and he just goes over and you literally just count the defenders.
Oh there's four over four.
I'm throwing the screen like, I don't know how you adjust to that.
And if you're going to play a light box and play five over four, like I'm gonna run a quarterback, you, I put you in a buying just from alignment.
So I don't know how you adjust to that, you know what I'm saying.
Because of the splits, because of the space, and because of the personnel, and I think that's again there will be some type of adjustment, but I don't know how much they can do to modify.
And it'll be interesting when they play a team.
Like Baltimoretimore example, just got that speed and physicality to kind of play one for one.
And they also practice against a runner.
Yeah, so they like most defenses dictated by the quarterback, then you got great defenses that dictate quarterbacks.
Like, that's what I would say. I want to see that.
Not getting ahead of myself, not getting them for the Browns, because I think the Brown's got a very good defense.
Defense is very in the same vein, but their offense doesn't support. Yeah, like you can get away winning a game nine to ten. You know it's seriously super productive. But I think again, like when he gets up against a team, a team like a super Bowl caliber team, what does that look like? Because again Arizona, I think they their defense is good but not great. Cincinnati good but not great. Giants, I think good but not great. We haven't really seen him versus like the top flight, and I.
Think you need to have at least one freaking defensive player to account for him.
And I think Cale Hamilton is the type of play smith. They got a lot of guys.
Yeah, before we get you out of here, before we wrap things up, the most important question of all fan question, how and when did you break your nose?
And can you please power rank every time you broke your nose? How many times does that happen? I think it's I forget it's six or eight times. Wow? Wow, So you're ranking them by.
Most famous nose break. My most famous nose break is when Chris Cooley changed my helmet out for practice. Great job, and I broke my nose. Ever told you I told you that story.
I've heard it, but I tell them against a good story. So he trists.
Get on because I got this big offensive lineman face mask, and I'm a blocking tight end, so I'm okay, I don't need all this swag. He's like, you need a smaller face mask, and I was really pushing back on it. And so one day I come back from special teams and he's like, get a new face mask and it's like a two bar kind.
Of like on our hail man. I was like, yeah, it was too late to tell you. I couldn't change it back for practice.
And so I'm like playing full back in practice and I go against Dre Carter and all of a sudden, wow, and I know I can hold my eyes up and there's blood all inside my face mask. And I was like, I didn't seem good. So I go over to the trainer and I was like, hey, man, like I got some blood in here is my face. I got cut on my face. And he just goes, I think your nose is broken. We'll bring you inside. And so I was like, finished practice, come inside, and they're like, oh, hey, yeah,
he broke your nose. Took an X ray, broke your nose. I don't worry about. We don't do surgery for that kind of thing on itself don't worry about it. And then I literally walk out of the doctor's office. I look up at the screen and they say Ben Ben Roethliserberger broke his nose.
They're doing surgery this afternoon.
And the most painful one I did was I was playing tag with my brother when I was probably twelve or thirteen, and I was up on one of those big trash cans with wheels on it, and I tried to jump off of it and it slipped out from under me and I did a straight face plant into the ground, like like cutting my.
Whole face up, broke the whole thing. That was the most painful one. He was a terrible chat dude. I wasn't terrible, I.
Mean, and then walk inside. My Dad's like, here, we'll just put a little band aate on this thing.
I'm not kidding.
Went to soccer practice that afternoon, just all double stuffed, big band in the face, nobody. Every time I see you, like Nelly, he'll be ok.
He'll be okay, at least a big band one of those. Yeah, He's like like this, dude, I take you to the hut if you ever breaking around me. Bro Yes, I got your back.
Yeah, I never went to the hospital for any of them, like just like I had. One of the one that I remember the most vividly was I went to UH. I was playing basketball in the morning before school starting, went up for a rebound and somebody came down.
It was one of the teachers and came down an elbow right in the face.
Boom, blood everywhere, and I was like, oh no, I need to go get I need to go get my nose done.
You know. He goes like it was like all my friends like, Logan looks terrible. I got black eyes, the whole thing. And Mom's like, Logan, your nose has been broken before, like that's how it looks. And I was like, all right, I guess I need in the hospital.
So you didn't need to take.
Yourself got Logan. We're just going to keep with tradition. If Logan has a heart attack on air, you got to shake.
It up up, get on up the top three. And there's other ones that are less fun. But if you want me to go through all of them, I can no way to enduring it.
But the way that you lutly never got to the hospital, it makes me wonder did anybody I think you got.
What I call Ogre's disease. Well you so big, people never think you hurt.
It is true.
I mean I had a trainer tell me one time, so I spread my C joint in practice, right all right?
No, I told my m C L.
And I was like, really hurt, really bad, you know, but no one cared.
No one cared.
So like I didn't miss a day of practice, didn't miss the workout he.
Was not supposed to be doing. The trainer goes like, look, and did you ever take a day off? And I was like no, no one told me I could. It's like you probably could have.
And then that was it. Like they just are like nobody, No, you can't get broke, No, no worry about it.
He yeah, Well, years ago I had back issues like I still have it, like herning a disc wing back. And I went to the doctor and he's an old guy about to retire, and he goes, yeah, Michael, I think you got a fusure spine.
Now I call it a life ender. Half the time it works and half the time it does it. If it does great, If it does it, I mean can't he can't, we can't sit. It's awful. I was like then the answer is no.
The answer is no.
Yeah, a fun story.
Yeah, great dog, Come on, life and Glad we had that conversation.
I call it a life and sir, go sell insurance. What are you doing here? Ain't even when we're tired.
You never want to be a doctor's last couple of patients like getting a good call.
They're just like getting a com made on front. It's not what you want on the way out. By the way, you were my last clients. Just not a friend. You've got hepatitis. I've got some robotesting that's not gonna work.
I'm not gonna put much effort into these last couple of surgeries.
Just ripping a cigarette. Yeah, I get the point to come out coming forty years. No, listen, man, it's hard.
Man.
I hate you got treated like that. Brother. Yeah, glad you're here.
We're getting a wrap from it. Kind of for that's to get my podcast smooth. Logan Chase next week hopefully another.
Victory now I'm Logan.
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