Investigators conducted five official searches for Joyce Yost's body, but came up empty. Cadaver dogs were used multiple times. Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley talk with cadaver dog trainer Jayson Harames with Utah Search Dogs about the abilities and limitations of dogs in finding human remains. Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Three ladies, Amy Donaldson, An...
Jun 04, 2021•43 min
The promise of returning Joyce Yost's body has fallen through, leaving Doug Lovell with a death sentence. Joyce's children continue pressing for answers about their missing mother's final resting place, while Doug embarks on a more than decade-long series of legal appeals in the hopes of having with guilty plea withdrawn. In the middle of that effort, a new informant named Jared Briggs comes forward claiming to know the actual location of Joyce Yost's remains. Joyce Yost had never met the man wh...
Jun 02, 2021•1 hr 6 min•Season 2Ep. 10
When a criminal defendant gets the death penalty it can feel like a life sentence to the families of the victims. Amy and Sheryl speak with Matt Hunsaker, whose mother, Maurine Hunsaker, was murdered when he was 10 years old in 1986. The ladies also speak with former capital case defense attorney Mark Moffat about the state of the death penalty in Utah. Lastly, Amy and Sheryl talk about what it's like to witness a firing squad execution, which they've each done. Talking Cold is honest and frank ...
May 28, 2021•53 min
The stakes are set for Doug Lovell as he heads toward trial for the murder of Joyce Yost. The capital murder charge carries a potential sentence of death. His only leverage: returning Joyce's body to her family. Doug makes a deal as the clock winds down, promising to lead police to Joyce's grave. Will he really follow through? Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Th...
May 26, 2021•1 hr 8 min•Season 2Ep. 9
What is it like to work as a detective investigating Cold cases? Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley sat down with Special Agent Brian Davis of the Utah State Bureau of Investigation and member of the state's new Cold Case Unit. He discusses what it's like to investigate a murder when there is no body and the biggest, most rewarding case of his career. Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold...
May 21, 2021•42 min
A reckoning comes for Doug Lovell, in the form of a capital murder charge. In a never-before-public audio recording, Sgt. Terry Carpenter confronts Doug about the murder of Joyce Yost. The walls close in and Doug turns to his confidant and co-conspirator: his ex-wife Rhonda Buttars. He doesn't realize Rhonda has obtained immunity and is working against him. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, bu...
May 19, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Season 2Ep. 8
A prison snitch can sometimes provide vital leads about a case, but is it always reliable information? Amy Donaldson and Ann Dent talk with former Salt Lake Police chief Chris Burbank about the pros and cons of information coming from a suspected criminal. Chris currently serves on a national level as the Vice President of law enforcement strategy for the Center for Policing Equity. Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold ...
May 14, 2021•41 min
More than five years have passed since Joyce Yost disappeared. A judge declares her deceased in the eyes of the law, even without her body as evidence of a murder. South Ogden police Sgt. Terry Carpenter receives a surprise tip from a prison informant, who suggests Doug Lovell might have played a role not only in Joyce Yost's murder but also in the disappearance of another Ogden-area woman. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped ...
May 12, 2021•55 min•Season 2Ep. 7
An immunity deal becomes a major development in the disappearance of Joyce Yost. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley talk with Davis County Attorney Troy Rawlings about when it is and when it isn't a good idea to promise immunity. Doug Lovell got out of prison early thanks to the Utah Board of Pardons and Parole. The ladies also speak with former Board of Pardons chair Mike Sibbits about deciding to let inmates out early. Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought...
May 07, 2021•49 min
A long shot lead claiming Joyce Yost had died at the hands of a satanic coven took an unexpected turn when South Ogden police Sgt. Terry Carpenter confronted Doug Lovell's ex-wife in April of 1991. Rhonda Buttars came clean to Carpenter, breaking open his investigation more than five years after Joyce's disappearance. But Rhonda did more than just talk. She recorded Doug Lovell while wearing a wire. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped a...
May 05, 2021•1 hr 10 min•Season 2Ep. 6
Elizabeth Smart captured the attention of the nation when she was kidnapped at knife-point from her Salt Lake City home in June of 2002. She was 14 years old. Investigators found her nine months later and arrested her kidnappers, Brian David Mitchell and his wife Wanda Barzee. Mitchell repeatedly raped Elizabeth while she was captive. In the years since, Elizabeth has become an advocate for survivors and has established a foundation to help through education, prevention and recovery, elizabethsm...
Apr 30, 2021•55 min
Doug Lovell's conviction for the rape of Joyce Yost carries a heavy penalty: 15 years-to-life in prison. With Doug safely in custody, South Ogden police turn their attention on his wife, Rhonda. The investigation stalls however, leaving the newly assigned lead detective Terry Carpenter chasing a strange lead involving a claim Joyce died at the hands of a satanic coven. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to ...
Apr 28, 2021•1 hr 8 min•Season 2Ep. 5
Joyce Yost went to police. She pressed charges, but it wasn't an easy process. The criminal justice system aspires to ensure justice is served while protecting the rights of the accused. But for victims, it sometimes feels as though they are not being believed. It repeats the horror of the crime over and over. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Ann Dent are joined by Kim Cordova, a former prosecutor and defense attorney for a look at the system from both sides. Plus, Ann and Amy talk BIG moments from Episo...
Apr 23, 2021•39 min
Joyce Yost has disappeared. Her daughter begs South Ogden police to begin a search, but help is slow in coming. Detectives find nothing out of place in Joyce's apartment, but they miss a major clue suggesting an act of violence occurred right on Joyce's own bed. In Joyce's absence, an unexpected ally steps forward to bring her story before a jury in the rape case against Doug Lovell. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He...
Apr 21, 2021•1 hr 8 min•Season 2Ep. 4
Joyce Yost was followed home, threatened and raped by someone she didn't know, the rarest type of sexual assault. Despite being terrified, Joyce reluctantly reported to police. Hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley speak with Sonya Martinez-Ortiz, Executive Director of the Rape Recovery Center about how trauma manifests differently for different people, victim blaming and how society can do better. Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest epi...
Apr 16, 2021•55 min
Doug Lovell turns to some old friends in the hopes of silencing Joyce Yost before she can testify. Joyce takes the stand at a preliminary hearing and tells the story of her sexual assault. Through a series of missteps and miscommunications, Lovell repeatedly slips through the fingers of police as the case heads toward trial. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then...
Apr 14, 2021•1 hr 6 min•Season 2Ep. 3
Content advisory: This episode includes discussion of rape and sexual assault. A confrontation in the carport followed by an assault from a stranger. Joyce Yost survives a terrifying attack. Then, with some reluctance, she reports what had happened to the police. Detective Bill Holthaus interviews Joyce before heading out to find the man who'd assaulted her: Douglas Lovell. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatene...
Apr 14, 2021•1 hr 10 min•Season 2Ep. 2
Talking Cold is honest and frank conversations about the issues brought forward in the latest episode of the Cold podcast. We begin with Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce. Join hosts Amy Donaldson, Ann Dent and Sheryl Worsley as they talk about weighty issues like sexual assault, the death penalty and failures of the criminal justice system. The goal is more conversation and more understanding. This week’s guest is Cold podcast host/researcher/creator Dave Cawley. Share your perspective. #J...
Apr 09, 2021•47 min
Our story begins with a barrage of bouquets, dozens of unsolicited yellow roses sent by a mysterious male admirer. We then meet a young Joyce Yost in Minnesota and follow her path to Utah. At the same time, a young man named Douglas Lovell finds himself on the wrong side of the law, landing in prison for armed robbery. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she ...
Apr 07, 2021•1 hr 11 min•Season 2Ep. 1
Josh Powell became a murder suspect when his wife Susan Powell disappeared from their home in West Valley City, Utah on December 7, 2009. Police have never located Susan's body. Prosecutors never charged Josh with a crime, in spite of a large body of circumstantial evidence. Many Cold season 1 listeners have asked "why not?" Isn't it possible to win a murder case without a body? Part of the answer might rest with the case of Joyce Yost, another Utah woman who'd disappeared nearly a quarter of a ...
Mar 24, 2021•9 min•Season 2Ep. 2
Introducing Cold season 2: Justice for Joyce Yost. Joyce Yost had never met the man who followed her home on an April night in 1985, who kidnapped and raped her. He threatened to kill her, but she went to police anyway. Then, she vanished. Joyce has never been found. Now, investigative journalist Dave Cawley delves into the decades-old case to uncover the details of a murder-for-hire plot to silence Joyce. Cold reveals flaws in the system that left Joyce unprotected, examines pitfalls of the dea...
Mar 17, 2021•4 min•Season 2Ep. 1
Secret police wiretap records in the Susan Powell case come to light for the first time, even as Susan Powell's parents fight for change in the state of Washington. This bonus episode takes you behind closed doors, into the private communications of Josh Powell, his brother Michael Powell, sister Alina Powell and father Steve Powell during "Operation Tsunami." What police learned by listening in on their phone calls helped explain why some officers feared for the safety of Susan's sons, Charlie ...
Sep 16, 2020•1 hr 9 min
Ten years have passed since the last day that Susan Powell was seen alive: December 6, 2009. In the decade since, her parents Chuck and Judy Cox have fought for access to police files, advocated against domestic abuse and maintained hope of someday finding their daughter. As the search for Susan enters its second decade, Chuck and Judy speak with Cold host Dave Cawley about how their lives have changed in Susan's absence. They also reflect on her enduring legacy and the lessons to be l...
Dec 06, 2019•22 min
On May 16, 2019, Cold host Dave Cawley stepped onto the stage at the Eccles Theater in Salt Lake City, Utah for Cold Live. A crowd of more than 2,000 spent the next two hours walking through the story behind the podcast with Dave and his guests, retired detective Ellis Maxwell and Utah Domestic Violence Coalition Executive Director Jennifer Oxborrow. Cold Live included never-before-heard audio journal and interview clips, as well as new voices and perspectives on the Susan Po...
Dec 05, 2019•1 hr 2 min
Cold returns at the 10-year anniversary of Susan Powell's disappearance with new episodes focused on previously undiscovered evidence in the case. For this episode, Dave Cawley dives into the digital evidence gathered by police during their investigation. Digital forensics experts from Eide Bailly describe the ongoing efforts to crack Josh Powell's encryption. We also share a significant discovery about ownership of images that played a key part in the sequence of events leading up to Josh's mur...
Dec 05, 2019•58 min
Cold returns at the 10-year anniversary of Susan Powell's disappearance with new episodes focused on previously undiscovered evidence in the case. For this episode, we hear from three people who were involved in car crashes with Josh Powell. In each case, records show Josh made questionable claims about being injured and sought settlements from insurance companies. The history of possible fraud raises new questions about possible motives. For the past four years, investigative reporter Dave Cawl...
Dec 04, 2019•48 min
Cold returns at the 10-year anniversary of Susan Powell's disappearance with new episodes focused on previously undiscovered evidence in the case. For this episode, we examine data from a GPS tracker that police hid on her husband Josh Powell's minivan the day after the disappearance. It reveals Josh visited several dumpsters in the days, weeks and months after Susan vanished. The tracking data also reveals Powell parked next to an Idaho canal late one December night. For the past four years, in...
Nov 27, 2019•56 min
A persistent theory surfaced in the days immediately after Susan Powell disappeared: perhaps Josh Powell had hidden her body in Nutty Putty Cave. The narrow passage on the fringe of Utah's West Desert had been the site of a high-profile caving accident. A spelunker named John Edward Jones became trapped in Nutty Putty just days before Susan Powell's disappearance. In this bonus episode of Cold, Dave Cawley puts the theory to the test in the hopes of answering the question: could Susan Powell's b...
Nov 19, 2019•24 min
West Valley City police did not act alone in their investigation of Susan Powell's disappearance. This bonus episode of Cold focuses on the work of U.S. Marshal Derryl Spencer. He played "good cop" to Josh Powell and his father, Steve Powell, hoping to earn their trust during a pivotal period of the investigation. Spencer even secretly recorded a meeting with Steve Powell in Puyallup in the hopes Steve might slip up and reveal Susan's whereabouts. For years, investigative reporter Dave Cawley ha...
Nov 13, 2019•34 min
Josh Powell's audio journals provide unique insight into his mindset during a formative time of his life: the period when he first met and married Susan Cox. Josh's secret audio diaries had never been heard before by anyone but police before they were uncovered in Cold. This bonus episode is a deep dive into one of those audio journals with clinical psychologist Matt Woolley . He points out the red flag behaviors revealed by Josh Powell's words, discusses narcissistic personality disorder and de...
Nov 06, 2019•50 min
