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Here's Nick Coffee. When I woke up this morning, I wondered if we would actually be having a show today because everything was working on my end. I noticed zero issue with any internet connectivity, No technological issues. I mean, it's hard to notice any of those, even if they are going on as soon as you wake up. But it was all anybody was talking about this worldwide tech outage. Any issues on your in John, None wasn't even
to wear until I saw social media earlier today. It wasn't that long ago that we did have an issue with AT and T yes, and there were a lot of people who did not have cell service, and it didn't last like a long time, like a full day or a week or anything. But I mean for a few hours. I feel like there were people who couldn't who couldn't use their phone, like I think you can only use it on Wi Fi. And I feel like that, you know, didn't get
as much attention as as this, And I don't know. I mean, I'm still I'm kind of fascinated to see when these things happen, like what caused it, because it is a It is a reminder how dependent we are on technology at every I mean and internet connectivity, that kind of stuff. And I guess one little glitch, one little screw up, can can really, uh really mess up a lot of things for people. But I really
don't I can't. Again, It's not like I've made calls to everybody I know, but I'm not sure of anybody that's had issues as far as you know, with with their work, like what they're doing. I mean, I guess you work unless you work at the airport. Apparently that was a
big that was a huge issue. And the company is called CrowdStrike. And when I read it at first, and I guess at the time, I'm kind of halfway asleep, I'm thinking, like somebody went on strike and that's why this is happening because they want better wages or something like that, and
in the end it's nothing like that at all. But yeah, it says there was an engineer who pushed an update that caused a global IT meltdown, crashing Microsoft devices, taking down government IT services in Australia, New Zealand and several US states, while disrupting global banks, media, and airlines. So apparently the airline industry has really really been a mess today because of this. American Airlines, Delta, United grounding all flights to IT outages that came in
at three o'clock in the morning. There's a map here that shows the time lapse from twelve hours of all the American Airlines, Delta and United traffic after they were you know, told to you know, I mean, I'd be scared to death. I mean, obviously I would assume that this wouldn't cause any issues with you know, the functioning, the planes being able to be
you know, functionable, and the pilots and whatnot. But the coverage of it made it feel like, you know, this was I mean, let me give you the quote that I feel like got more attention than anything, and that is one of the let me see if I can find it here is basically some It says, uh, let me see if I had I had it pulled up here. Now I can't seem to find it here. Here we go. This is from the Spectator Index. It says breaking.
Prominent security consultant Troy Hunt says, this will be the largest IT outage in history. And this is basically what we were all worried about with Y two K, except it's actually happened this time. I mean, I feel like that's an exaggeration, but I'm probably only saying that because I have not been
impacted in any way. But I'm sure, I am sure that everybody that was at airports throughout the country today that was impacted by this, with flights being delayed, canceled, I'm sure they were very patient, very understanding, and very calm. In fact, it would have been nice to be a fly on the wall at an airport today knowing you won't have to worry about travel, just kind of going get in, see if you can get in, and just see the you know, the the shenanigans, the madness.
You don't fly often, John, but I mean air been for a long time. Airports are there's a lot of tension in airports. In fact, it seems like every day because of people having the ability to pull out their phone and video anything in any moment. Now, I like every day there's a new viral video of either somebody who works for an airline being a complete ass and making a fool of themselves, probably getting fired, or somebody at an airport who realized, you know, they hit they hit a wall where
they fully nude not too long ago. Yeah, I mean, there's no there's no place I can think of where you are more helpless than at an airport. And it I've never been at a point where I felt like I was about to, you know, lose my cool or anything like that, because overall, I've had very little issues with airlines compared to you know, some people, like I've had a flight delayed, I've had a flight canceled, but usually you know, it gets worked out and it's not some major
inconvenience. But others, of course, I'm sure had me Like I hear people landing and not being able to get off the plane for two hours, or getting on the plane having to get off the plane, And you know, I've never, fortunately, I've never had to deal with any of that, and it sounds like that stuff's kind of common this day and age.
But there the airport just does something to you. I don't know if it's the airport bar where you get too many drinks in you and you just, you know, get more drunk than you've ever been because you're at the airport and times there's you know, time stopped. There's like it does like there's no time at an airport, right, Like you're just you know, you can't control anything. So it's just every you know, you're on their time, no matter what you're doing, where you're going, so you just sit
there and deal with it. So maybe just people get maybe people get too hammered. But there are people out there that have probably ruined their lives to an extent, who just really embarrassed themselves, maybe got themselves arrested, maybe you know, went viral on the internet for the wrong reason. And I would be willing to bet that maybe not the majority, but a lot of those people are probably normal. But the airport meltdown, it just you become
someone you never knew you could be. Whenever you get completely fed up with the helplessness of the airline, meaning that they're not going to you know, if you miss your fly, okay, we'll get in line. We'll give you a voucher for a free happy meal and you'll like it. And we're not going to take any lip because we've got all the power, we've got all the authority, and you just lose your cool. I mean again, there's no better story than in Nashville. There was a guy who you know,
he'd done enough complaint and he wasn't a violent man. He was unhappy with the service he was getting. Nobody was helping him, and he said, you know what I'll show him if you know, if I really want to really want to get their attention and let them know how upset I am, I'm going to get naked. That's what he did. And he had
to be carried out butt ass naked at the airport in Nashville. And I'm not sure if they made any changes to their policy, whatever airline it was, but they'll remember him and they'll know that, you know, that's an option. Now maybe you will be a little more courteous unless you want somebody to just get completely nude. So yeah, I'm sure everybody was really calm today and understanding of this of the situation. So the company is is CrowdStrike,
which have you ever heard of him? For today? Nope, I haven't either, So I'm reading here from our partners over WKHY. The global computer outage affecting airports, banks, and other businesses on Friday appears to stem at least partly from a software update issued by majority of US cybersecurity firm, CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike told customers early Friday that the outages were caused by a defect found in a single content update on its software on Microsoft Windows operating systems.
According to a post on x from CEO George Kertz, the company's engineers took action to address the problem. Goes on here to say that they told this is funny me. Actually they told customers to reboot their computers and perform other actions if they were still having technical issues. I do love then, no
matter what I mean. We're talking about a company that, again I've never heard of them, but they are a major US cybersecurity firm that works with you know, the largest you know, I mean, they're they're huge, clearly, and they tell you they'll power down, power up. You call Spectrum right now, because your WiFi is slow. I guarantee you first thing, if you tried power down, power up, reboot, and sometimes, and I'll be honest with you, sometimes rebooting does the trick in every aspect
of like technology. Like our TV wasn't working the other day, couldn't get it, couldn't get the volume to do anything. And I always leave the TV on, which probably isn't good for my TV because weally you have a Roku, so like it just is always at that Roku home screen and you know that floating screen saver looking thing. So finally, you know, I've powered the TV off, powered it back on, and we were back in
business. But I'm trying to find the specifics here because this is one of those things that you see on the internet and it would be really funny if true, but like it may not be true. But apparently there was just one person who pushed out an update that like caused this entire thing. And
imagine being that guy. Imagine being the person who you know, maybe prematurely did something, maybe you were supposed to verify if the update was ready, and you know, somehow along the way, you were the one that put this in motion that caused everybody you know to have issues. The funniest thing I saw was that like Sports Center, they couldn't they couldn't show anything. They were unable to air anything on TV due to Microsoft crowd that due to
this Microsoft issue that is again from CrowdStrike. So on ESPN and ESPN too, they were airing the radio shows that were you know, I guess, not utilizing. Yeah, they were just going live to the unsportsmanlike show, but without having any like b roll footage to show, like it's just on Freddie Coleman and Courtney Cronen who are filling in, which, hey, it's good that you had that instead of just you know, showing a blank screen
or like just a picture of something. But it seems like everything's good now, right, Like I haven't. I haven't seen any like. It seems to me as if things have been fixed and the issues are corrected. But when you have that kind of an outage, even for like an hour or maybe even less than that, I guess with the airlines, it becomes like a next level mess. But if you've noticed anybody out there that like thinks this is some work that there's some conspiracy to like all of our accounts get
hacked and stuff like our credit cards and all that kind of stuff. I haven't heard anything, but it wouldn't surprise me if this is like a preemptive like test, like oh, if we can do this, maybe down the line we can actually do something else. It's more devastating. Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised, but I guess i am a little surprised with it's people like that. I know, and I'm like, are you come on, like you really do you think that they want to know your your
bank account? I mean, like, I don't think it's more. I don't think it's so much about the bank account as much as it is just getting everybody offline. Yeah, I think because we you know, if you're it's dangerous to be offline this day and age, depending upon you know, considering how much it's dependent upon every day. And we learn that today.
But do you remember when the AT and T stuff didn't happen? Like I you better be careful of people always thought it was like politics like somehow I mean again, you go to Facebook right now, you scroll long enough on your feet, you'll probably see somebody that is going to have some conspiracy that this crowd strike outage has something to do with the election in November. It's one of the it's either going to be the left or the radical left or
radical right trying to do something to bring down the other candidate. And I guess that's just the era that we live in now, all right. It is Coffee and Company. Happy Friday, everybody. We made it. The weekend will be here soon for us, and it may already be here for a lot of you guys, So if so, salute and we'll get you set for the weekend, taking you up till six o'clock. Again. It is Coffee and Company. We are fueled by Thornton's Nick Coffee. That's me
the company man, mister John Alden alongside today. And the vibes are good right now here in Louisvie. I'll tell you that. I mean, we've got beautiful weather again today and we've got the TBT tomorrow. It certainly looks as if ticket sales continue to be going really well. And we got Gorgie Jang in town the TVT account that is for the Louisville team. The Ville.
They posted a picture of Gorgee in Russ Smith and it did something to me, man, I could be wrong, And I reached out to one of his former teammates to ask, and they said that they believe this is
the case, but they weren't for sure. This is the first time gorgiy Jang has been back in Louisville since he left, which you know, he's from Senegal, and right after he graduated, I mean, he ended up going to the NBA, and he was in Minnesota for a long time and you know, had a I think a nine tenure career in the league. So you know, it wasn't as if he you know, he didn't.
This isn't considered his home. He was here for three years and you know, I'm sure it's a special place for him, but you know, know that happens sometimes, man, it's and I think it used to happen more than it does now. But there are probably guys who went to school for four years somewhere, played sports, and just depending upon where life takes them, they really don't go back. I mean, they don't have any reason
to go back other than just like maybe do occasionally visit. But if their new life post college is across the country or across the world, it's not exactly super convenient. So I just know this weekend is destined to be great because Gorgy Jang is here. I don't know how long he's staying. I'm hoping he's going to be at the game tomorrow at one o'clock. But how about Gorgs would be nice if he was going to play in this event. But you know, he doesn't need the money's he's well off. He had
his he I remember when Gorgy got his second contract in the league. That was you know, that was when I It was around the time when I was really learning that getting a second deal as an NBA player, that's where you really have a chance if you're wise with money to create generational wealth. Now, a lot of these guys don't. They blow a lot of their money and whatnot, and hey, it's their money, they can do whatever
they want with it. But Gorgy Jang be in here. I don't know how it all came about, but I know Peyton was recently in Vegas at the Summer League doing some networking and ran into Gorg's and I don't know, maybe Peyton asked him to come on back and take and make a visit and check out a lot of his old teammates. I mean again, I wouldn't be shocked if guys like Shane and I mean maybe even Russ. I don't know. Russ and Gorgy probably ran into each other quite a bit in there
when Russ was in the NBA. But you know, I wouldn't be shocked if this is the first time that these guys have really been able to catch up. I mean, because I could be wrong, but yeah, Gorgy was Yeah, no, he wasn't. Gorgey was not able to make it when they did the twenty thirteen championship team celebration on the ten year anniversary because he was in the NBA still. I think he was playing with the Hawks or maybe with the Spurs. So glad to have Gorgy back. And I
mean maybe I'm way off here. They're going to announce the attendance, I'm sure after the game tomorrow, but I feel like this is going to break the record again. It's seven two hundred is the record for the most those people that have attended a TBT game, and Louisville last year wasn't far from
that. I mean, I think they were in the top five with like fifty five hundred or something like that, and now I think you have so many people that experienced it last year that can't wait to get out there tomorrow and do it again. And I think there's many people like me that, you know, I would have gone, but I couldn't go because I was
out of town. But I'm sure some people last year were like, yeah, I don't really know what this is, like, I'm not going to make it a priority to go. Tickets aren't super cheap, like you know, I'll watch when they're on TV, but you know I'm not going to go. Well you should go, and I'm taking my family, got some friends going, and the nostalgia here is amazing. And I posted this video last night. Coriyaltis, who used to do videography for the Louisvillen's basketball program.
He was he was kind of kicked to the curb whenever Pat Kelsey came in and brought his crew, which happens. You know, it happens. It's not done, uncommon in that role. But man, Corey's a great guy, does great work. But he put together a video last year.
I think it might have been after their first game, really good cinematic footage and it just I mean, I think it's the best way to show somebody what the experience is like if you didn't go, because I mean it's Louisville fans on their feet losing their mind at Freedom Haul, like Louisville's playing, you know, a huge conference game in January, and yes, no doubt
about it. A part of that uncontrollable excitement and you know, just getting rowdy is because we hadn't been excited about a basketball game in a long time. And you know what, here we are. We're excited about the future of Louisville basketball, no doubt with Pat Kelcey. But it's still been a long time since we were I mean, I think the last time we were really into a game and it felt like you know it used to feel, was when we watched this team play last year in the TVT. I mean
Louisville opened up the season. In fact, before they started the season, they lost a game to Kentucky Wesleyan, right, so like said, like they were again. There's one thing I will look back on the Kenny pay era and say thank you for is for being consistent and never giving anybody with a brain a legitimate counterpoint as to why you should not be the coach.
You know what I'm saying, Like losing to Wesleyan in your second exhibition game with a brand new roster that featured I mean, in fact, in that game, here I go again, this is where I just block out and just can't help myself. But in that game against Kentucky Wesleyan, Kenny Payne only played four and five star players and lost that. Somebody yesterday asked me on the text line after the show if my whenever I, you know, seemingly had a mini stroke and couldn't finish it. You know that was weird.
Man. My mom was was grilling me yesterday asking what was going on. I'm like, I can't explain it. I don't know what it was, but I'm good now. But somebody asked if I was at a Kenny payin effect, like did I have PTSD about Kennie Payne on the show? And I just, you know, locked up. So again, I hope I see every one of you listening out there, which we have millions of
listeners. That wouldn't be possible because you know they'd sell out. But I know there's already gonna be a good crowd just looking at the amount of tickets that are available, but it would be so great to see them break that record in the first game. And I believe you're gonna do it. I really do. I'll give you an update here as we move along as far as what tickets are looking like, because you can still get tickets in the upper sections, and I look today again, I bought some tickets for some
for some family that's going to be going as well. And you know, as far as what's available, I mean the first seat, like the closest seat, because it's to me, it's in Freedom Hall. It's not all about being I mean, it'd be great's great if you can get super close. But in the upper sections there's really not a bad seat because of the size of the venue. But if you if you have you know, if you've got an option, I think you'd rather be closer to center court than
to the far right or far left. And if you want it to be you know, just if you're just basing it off the closest seat, you'll be closer to the far right of the far left, But it's not it's it's probably midway through me meaning like it's not row a b CD. It's it's much further. So, I mean tickets are being sold, and that has me. Now again there's always this scenario that people buy them and then
resell them, Like, is that a thing for this? You know what I'm saying, Like, is that like if you're in the ticket hustling business where you find a way to snatch up a bunch of tickets and resell them for more money, would this be like an attraction? I don't know.
Again, if there's a TVT spot where this would be, you know, like a place you could do that, I guess it would be here, but it's not gonna sell out, and I think people would be more likely to buy a ticket in the three hundred section that's more affordable than somebody trying to you know, double or triple the price to get into the lower bowl because again, you don't really have a bad seat at Freedom Hall. Gosh, somebody asked me this earlier today, one of my buddies, when's the
last time I was at Freedom Hall for a basketball game? I don't. I mean, I will remember being at the at Freedom Hall for the for the Kentucky Derby Festival Classic years ago, but that wasn't I mean, I don't think it wasn't. I guess it was the game they had it there, but that doesn't really count. There were like five hundred people there. I think the last Freedom Hall game I was at was the last year they played there, and I went to two or three games that year. I
was not there when they shut it down with Kyle Kirk against Syracuse. But yeah, then nostalgia is I mean, it's we haven't even experienced yet, right the games tomorrow. We haven't seen these guys play just yet. I haven't walked in Freedom Hall yet. But man, uh, it's gonna be amazing and I'm looking forward to it. I'm also looking forward to the rest of the show today because we're gonna have some fun. It's a Friday,
vibes are strong, as I mentioned, and we'll mix it up. I do want to talk some football because there's a crazy stat out there about Mark Stoops that I want to discuss. And it's not I mean it is. It's a It's a stat that when you see it you think wow. But to be fair, it's really not that surprising. But it brings up the never ending debate that really is silly, and that's what makes debates never ending.
When you know you'll never you'll never get closure, you'll never get any You know you can have your opinion and nobody will ever prove you wrong. And that is if Louisville played Kentucky scheduling Kentucky played Louisville schedule like, what would it look like again? We'll never know because that'll never happen. But it's a it's a it's a debate that is, you know, never ending. Or if you want to be a part of the show today you can
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set four thirty. All right, so I mentioned not really knowing a whole lot about who was impacted in this uh tech outage, which is what it's being described, and uh somebody wrote it on the text line and said that they work in healthcare and there there was a lot of procedures canceled or postponed today because of the the outage, which, hey, that mean if it's related to Microsoft, I'm sure there's a lot of a lot of industries that
rely on Microsoft services because you know, they're one of the leaders in the tech world. Yeah, it looks like flights at the airport also here in town at Muhammad Ali International were impacted. So hey, if you were impacted, that's that's a bummer, and I hope your day gets better. All right, it's coffee and company. We are fueled bout Thornton's here on Sports
Talk seven ninety again. Right now, if you have not signed up yet to become a member of the Refreshment Awards program, you sign up right now, you get a free red bull. I mean, I feel like they've already incentivized you enough to where you should have done it long ago. But maybe that free red Bull is what really really gets you to make the move and download the app. It's free and you'll save money, so it's a no brainer, all right. So this was shared yesterday by an account called
SEC Unfiltered. They have fifty two thousand followers, so clearly if it's satire, if it's you know, they don't seem to have a legitimate outlet, meaning like they're not they're not. There's not a website or anything. Maybe they have a podcast, I'm not really sure. However, they mentioned Kentucky being under you know, flying under the radar again, Well, actually they're
reacting to that because that's that was sort of you know. I mean, I didn't hear much of anything about Kentucky at the SEC media days, not from anybody covering the league itself, not from anybody covering UK. Now, I will admit I wasn't out there looking for UK coverage because you know,
I just wouldn't do that. And it's not just because it's UK. It's because the coverage from media days is usually pretty pretty vanilla, to be honest with you, but I feel like it's been at least three four years now, maybe even longer that there's been well, you know, Kentucky, they're kind of flying under the radar. Mark Stoops may have something special, you know, this and that, and it seems like the one year where that wasn't the case, like when they had when they brought back Will Levis and
they were pretty underwhelming that following year. If you guys remember that, that I think was kind of their chance to, you know, really take advantage of the fact that others in the league had kind of given them some love and some expectations and they weren't claiming they were going to win the league. But I believe that was the year that it was Okay, Georgia is the team in the East, but outside of Georgia, it's it's gonna be Kentucky.
And you know, that wasn't the case. So I don't I just don't think you're gonna see as many SEC analysts media members kind of prop Kentucky up as this sleeper team because they've kind of done that a couple of times maybe more over the years, and it's never really actually happened. Now, they've not been awful, right, I mean, Kentucky has you know, at least, you know, gotten to a bowl game every year since Gosh, I don't know how them this last time they weren't in a bowl game
been a long time. So I also think the fact that Texas and Oklahoma are entering the league this year, it's just that you're not. I just don't think you're gonna hear a whole lot about a sleeper team. I think, headline, there's already too many storylines involved where that would ever be a thing. And honestly, you know, Kentucky's a question mark, just like a lot of teams. They got a quarterback who came from Georgia who may be the real deal, but he's not played a whole lot because he was
playing, he was sitting behind some other really good quarterbacks at Georgia. So there was at least somebody that wanted to kind of say, hey, look, we've been doing this long enough. Kentucky. You know, their off season disrespect thing is like not, you know, hush, and I'm not sure they've been like disrespected, but you know, I'm sure Mark Stoops and his team will be able to, you know, manufacture some disrespect and motivate
their guys and that's whatever. That's what a lot of coaches do, right, However, you can get an edge. But this stat is wild to me initially, when you give it some thought, it's really not that crazy. Mark Stoops is just two and twenty eight at Kentucky against teams that finish with a winning record in the SEC. All right, John, have you heard that stat before? Am I just throwing that at you? And you're you're just now realizing that. I feel like you've thrown that stat out before.
I've never known that stat. I know that they never are successful in the SEC, and their record, I mean, I don't know if they've ever had a winning record in the SEC in my lifetime. I think they went four and four a couple of times. And I've always acknowledged that the teams they beat in the SEC usually don't end up being very good. But I didn't know two and twenty eight all time. I mean, that's doesn't
that just sound insane? Just sounds like they're built off of mediocrity now, which again for Kentucky's old standard, that's great, but again, they see themselves as something better than that. Now, Yeah, and you know, I thought, let me see if I can find the response here Bud Elliott, who used to he used to be a writer that just covered Florida State. Now he works for twenty four seven Sports more so as a just as a college football analyst and writer, and he had a response to that stack
because I don't know if it went viral. I guess that going viral depends on what you view as far as, like, you know, it being a It didn't become a national story. But a lot of people, non Kentucky folks are reacting to that tweet from SEC and filters that were like, Wow, that's crazy, because again, it just sounds insane, and in their defense, it's not. I mean, it's not that insane. Now with that said, I mean it's not good, but there aren't that many
teams every year that finish with a winning record in the SEC. So therefore you don't even really have that many chances to to I would say the majority of the teams that they've lost to that have a winning record in the end of the at the end of the season in SEC play are probably teams that, like Kentucky's never going to consistently beat. And that's why, you know,
I always say this about I give Marksoops a lot of credit. He has absolutely made Kentucky a much different program than any of us ever thought they would be. And that's but that's not to say that they're elite. It's just the fact that they were so whatever for so long and nobody ever really cared about football in a major way because they never really had any reason to
believe they were ever going to be good. And you know, I don't know if i'd say that they're like a good program, but they're certainly not bad, like they're not awful. And Louisville clearly, you know, has a five game losing streak to them, which is crazy. And yes, I'm well aware of Texalon flooding in, like I know that two and twenty eight against teams with an SEC, with an SEC record, with the a
winning record in SEC play, and yet Louisville still can't beat them. You don't have to, you don't have to let me know that I'm well aware.
But you know, they they they don't know how to handle the little bit of success that they've had because they've never really had it consistently, and that's why they sometimes go from you know, heck, we made a Bowl game to thinking they're going to potentially win the East, and that's certainly unrealistic now considering there's no divisions and George has been dominant, and you know in the last few years when they had divisions. But let's see, let me
pull up the like. So Mark Stoops has gone four and four in the SEC on two occasions, and that was in twenty sixteen and two thousand and seventeen, and those seasons both ended with Kentucky being seven and six overall with two losses in bowl games. They did have a winning record in the SEC
twice. I will I will, I will clarify that they went five and three in the SEC in twenty eighteen, in twenty twenty one, which is the two years they had ten win seasons, and those were good years for him, especially the one in two thousand and eighteen with Benny Snell and Josh Allen and those guys. So the fact that you can say Kentucky had two ten win seasons, two winning records in the SEC, that alone speaks to
how Mark Stoops has changed Kentucky. That's not sustainable. That may never happen again, considering their conference just got tougher with Oklahoma and Texas being added. But that's I mean, he's a he's a made man because of that. But again two and twenty eight, I think it also lets you know that when you do win, you're beating teams that aren't good in your league and you're probably getting with like for example, when they beat Florida and LSU in
edwar Duron's last year. I think that was in twenty twenty one. I mean, they can't help it. It's not their fault. It doesn't mean they're not good, but the facts are facts. They beat those two teams when they were really bad and made coaching changes much champ Out at ordron Out. I don't think they got fired because they lost to Kentucky, but that's
just those teams weren't and again they can't help that. But I just I think this could be a year where Kentucky fans really kind of decide are they And I think I said this last year, and it played out that they were going to adjust the expectation in the standard right. They weren't just going to be happy with going to a bowl game every year, even though that never used to be the reality for them. They've now done that and now they you know, they seemingly want to take a step up. And they
were really disappointing last year. And you know, we talk about the lead up to the Louisville game. They hated their team, they hated their coach. I don't think they wanted them fired, but they were very underwhelmed with with the way things went. Devin Leary wasn't as good as advertised. They were a really undisciplined team that got called for a lot of penalty. I mean, they were sloppy team. But then they beat Louisville and you know
that certainly helped them finish the season with another win. They would have been six and six without that, and you know, I think they've you know, what are you gonna do? Right? Your coach isn't going anywhere, But he thought about it, right. I think he wanted to go to Texas A and M and that didn't work out. So I kind of feel
like this will be a year where if they are again. I tried to think about it earlier which way I wanted to go with this take because I don't, you know, I try to you know, be a little and go against the grain a little bit, and I wanted to say they're gonna be either eight and four and really surprised teams because you know that's that you know Stoops is still developing well on defense. This quarterback they got from Georgia,
you know, he's he's he's got the arm. They've got great receivers and Barrian Brown and Dane Key, I mean, talent wise, those guys did not live up to expectations last year. But like, maybe they really break through and have a good year and surprise everybody in win eight or they go four and eight because you know they're taking some growing pains because the league
got better. But the most likely outcome is what they always do seven and six or six and seven or eight and five, like that's that's probably the most likely outcome, where they get their eighth win in a bowl game or
something like that, because that's consistently what they've done. And I just don't know, like if they end up there again were let's say last year, Let's say this year, they end up having the same record they've had the last two years, So a third straight season of seven and six and three and five in league play, if that's the case, Like I feel like their fan base will be kind of in no man's land, right. They're gonna feel, I think a little bit underwhelmed because they want to aim higher.
But they're also gonna know like nobody else that's ever coached here has given us anything close to that being the consistent bar Bowl game. You know,
seven wins so is far. And again, a lot of the responses that I saw from this when the Louisville and Kentucky fans were going back and forth with well, of course, with people mentioning, well, Louisville's lost to loss to them five straight years, which again we know, but it also brought up the whole like, I wonder what Kentucky's record would be if they played in the ACC. I wonder, I wonder what Louisville would do in
those thirty games against those teams with winning records in the SEC. And the answer is we'll never know. We'll never know, but it's probably if we did. If that hypothetical played out, it would probably be what you would expect. Kentucky would have a better record, but they wouldn't win the league. They wouldn't win the ACC like they believe that they would have been in
Charlotte playing Florida State if they had Louisville schedule last year. They have nothing to base that off of other than the fact that they played in the SEC, and when they did play Louisville they beat them. But if you just want to do a one off game and that determining okay, well, then there's a lot of crazy things that would end up happening in college football if
that's how you if that's how you reacted just one game. If Louisll played in the SEC, they would not I mean, they would lose a lot more games over the years. Would they be you know, seven and six, three and five? Maybe I happen to think that they could potentially, you know, with Bram they could be you know, I think the ceiling would be higher. We'll never know. But it's an endless it's an endless back and forth. And it's also another reminder, you know, I just
wish this game what in the last game of the year. I know why it is and I know it will never change, but we'd be talking this game. We'd already been doing it for weeks now, and it used to be fun, especially when you have like again Kentucky. You know, they I don't know if they feel great about their program right now. Maybe they do, I'm not sure, but I know they feel great about the rivalry
because they've dominated it recently. And I know Louisville fans feel like last year was just like the unbelievable Fluke loss, and they feel that, you know, all those wins that Stoops piled up against Louisville came against you know, Bobby at the end. Actually Bobby would even hear in that last game. And then the last team Bobby coached against Kentucky he won, So it was the interim coach in eighteen, and then he lost every game since then.
But like only one of them has come to Brom So I just went it would give us a lot more in July and August around here. If there was lead up not to Louisville playing Popcorn State in Kentucky playing you know, Butthole Tech, but them playing each other, that would be like, that would be awesome. And yes, I'm selfishly saying that because, like you know, it would make this job a little funner to do in those months. Although Butthole Tech's got a good team this year. Who's the coach at
Butthole tech. They just hired somebody new the the longtime coach retired last year. Okay, so sick of the butt? Was the dude from Louder than Life? Yeah, that was him, British accent guy. Yeah, or no, the British accent guy was a guy had gout no the but yeah, show me your butthole. Nobody goes full holes what he was saying. Yeah, he did say later in the night the full holes would come out, which we didn't stay to figure out. But I bet he was telling
the truth. I bet he was. All Right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side, wrap up the three o'clock hour, talk a little more butthole tech right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. All right, let's go to the text line five O two six five three zero seven nineties the number if you guys want to text in. So this Texas Nick. I wish I could get in on the fun in making fun of Kentucky football, but I can't do it until we finally beat him. I mean,
I wasn't making fun of them. That's a that's a fact stat that's not like you know. And and again, if you really consider how many teams annually finish with a winning record in the SEC. The majority of those losses, I would imagine came against teams that I mean, there's still losses nobody wants to lose, but it's probably teams that you would never expect Kentucky or a lot of teams to beat. So I'm not I'm not, you
know, making fun of them, and I hope that they can. I mean, look, I think Kentucky this year, and in all honesty, and I didn't, I didn't. I didn't want to go there today and I don't have all the information in front of me to reference, but there
was a really good right up on the portal. And how there are teams out there this year that did not get a lot of buzz, a lot of attention because now it's all about what you did in the portal, right, because it's like the instant gratification of all this team's going to be great
because they did they brought in this guy and that guy. But if you can retain good players that you've developed and keep them there, they're not because they're not in the portal, nobody's talking about them unless they're all Americans that are returning. And I think that's a real thing in both sports, basketball and football. If you brought back guys that you know, we're pretty good
and you expect them to get even better. Like, they're not going to be talked about a whole lot in the offseason, unless again we're talking about dudes who are returning after all American caliber seasons. But there's still a high probability that you can have success with that formula. And Kentucky lost fewer guys in the portal than most, and they bring back a lot of really good defensive players. Dean Walker as a monster. They got a defensive back whose
names escaping me. I think it's Hairston. That's really good. Like Kentucky defense. Kentucky's defense this year should be nasty. You know, they're undisciplined at times. I mean last year they got a ton of penalties, so maybe that'll hurt them. But look, I wouldn't make it fun of Kentucky football. And I'm aware, like Louisville has a massive losing streak to them that I hope ends, and for the most part, like they that's where you usually see them. I mean, I don't think that's why they won
last year. I mean that last year. If you really look at the comedy of airs for Louisville and you know what they did to keep Kentucky in it, and Kentucky made some plays too, you know, clearly they did their part. But more often than not in the last I don't know, five six years really post Bobby, you'd see Kentucky just have more physically developed depth in the trenches and that matters. And you know, I know Jeff
is sick about that loss to Kentucky as anybody. And I mean that, you know, I don't say it like he's calling me every night telling me how pissed he is, but like he's he's one of us. Man, he's the coach, but like he'd have been if he wasn't the coach and he was coaching elsewhere and Louisville lost. That way, he'd be pissed, because it's impossible not to be. It's, you know, he's one of
us. But you know, they they they intentionally went out and got some beefy dudes to give them more depth on the defensive line when they were, you know, scrambling to fill those final scholarships they had in the portal, and some of those guys didn't come with big credentials and you know, a deep, a deep resume, but they're they're big dudes that are experienced, that have played a lot of football, and that's what you need to compete
against SEC caliber teams. So you know, I'm not sitting here saying Louis is gonna beat Kentucky at the end of the season. I mean, I think they can, and I think, you know, they'll have a good enough year to where we're going to get to that game at the end of November and feel pretty good about it. But losing last year made it made it to where it's gonna be hard for me to just be overly confident in
the game. And I know that sounds weak, but like last year, you you should have beat them, Like there's no reason you should have lost that game, and you were and you had it too, by the way, Like it's again, there's things. You know, there's letting them run a kickoff back, Ray Davis ending up just kind of being the best guy in the field at times. You know that that I mean, again,
that's that's Ray Davis. That's credit to him. But you know, the defense really kind of fell apart last year at the end and that you know, had had you had the same kind of defense that you had, you know in week four, Week five, you know, probably would have been a different game. And that's not you know, I guess that sounds like an excuse, but either way, it doesn't matter. You play that game at the end of the year, and it's a game that means a lot
to everybody. So even if you are gased because you played eleven games, if you're banged up, you know what. So it is Kentucky, it's you know, it's that's part of it. Do you see this story about Caleb Williams John how he wanted to how he wanted the Bears to pay him. No, So this this this is to me, it's not a huge deal, but it's another to me. It's another look as to Caleb Williams
to me is I don't know. I kind of feel like he's clown and you know, he's shown that he has some talent, But I happen to think he'll end up being a bust in the NFL because I just I don't know if he's going to be able to lead in an NFL rocker room. And I don't say that because of his eccentric personality and style and all that. I just I look, I feel like, despite never being in an NFL locker room, if you're going to be a quarterback and lead an NFL
rocker room, you got to carry yourself a certain way. You got to you gotta handle things a certain way. And I've never seen him have any ability to do that. But you know, clearly he's got talent, or he wouldn't have been a phenom in college or in high school and then have a good college career and go on to be the number one pick in the draft. But this is just to me a weird thing. He tried to negotiate his rookie deal with the Bears, and he was exploring creative tax strategies.
So he did not want the Bears to pay him, you know, as a W two employee like the rest of US Americans that work for big corporations. He wanted the Bears to pay in LLC and having payments treated as a forgivable loan, and clearly he wasn't able to do so. But just attempting that to me is like what are you doing? Like why would you think you'd be able to do that, Like, what makes you think you'd
be able to do that? Well, if that because if that was the thing, everybody would do that, not just in football, but like you know, like I don't know, I feel bad for the Bears because I have I have a soft spot for the Bears for one reason. I love Chicago, and I know a couple of Bears fans who I feel like have kind of been miserable. Anytime the Bears have been like kind of good, they end up, you know, choking. And it's been a long time
I think since the Bears have been legitimately good. Colts beat him the Super Bowl in two thousand and six. I think it was yep and that team, you know, I guess they were good enough to make it there. But about Rex Rex Grossman being a starting quarterback in the Super Bowl is going to be a trivia question down the line that somebody's gonna get wrong and not believe you that he was the people who the hell's Rex Grossman? All right, Well, we'll take a quick break, we'll come back. We got
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