It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are get off our show, idiot. The kids are crying or turning off. The countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inn Murals, Brother, gold Play Inn Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? Here's Nick coffee. All right, let's try to do what we
do every single Friday, finish the week strong. I can't guarantee you that's what's gonna happen today, but that's what we're gonna attempt to do. So welcome everybody, Happy Friday, the weekend. It's kind of here. I mean it's here for some folks. I bet there are many listening right now. The weekend's already started. Maybe the weekend will start for you within these next three hours. Maybe like us, it'll start, you know, when
the show ends. But as always, we tried to make it to where you know, even if you are still on the clock, I don't know, maybe you're driving home. Maybe it hasn't happened yet. Well, let's collectively get this thing started. I mean on Friday between three and five and six pm. I mean, I'm sure those that work certain jobs, I mean, you can never really not be on. You got to always be productive, right, I guess it really just depends on what you do.
But you know, before I was able to do this, which you know, is like we talked about yesterday, doesn't really feel like a job. It is. We work hard, love what I do, believe it or not. They actually pay me a salary to do this, but it don't really feel like work. So prior to this, I lived the cube life, meaning I was a cubicle guy, used to work in software, which I actually really enjoyed that not just saying it to be nice. It was
something that I really liked doing. I would have never left it had this opportunity not happened. But I can tell you this firsthand, the cube life. I was a part of office life three to six, three to five pm, really noon to five pm. We weren't gett much done. I mean, it was just a known thing. We would pretend to be, you know, alert, continuing to do our jobs, but we kind of weren't you know, like maybe an email that came in at four o'clock,
Well, you know, they can wait till Monday. You know, maybe you had something you had to get done. In fact, here's what was pretty common. If we had like something that needed to be done by the end of the week, it would be done by like ten am, and then it's just we're doing whatever the hell we want the rest of the way.
And I'm not sure if the workplace is still like that, Like I don't know, like I would imagine that environment, that situation still exists, but I feel like what I used to do, a lot of it is remote now and that wouldn't be as fun for me. Do you think you'd be working remote today if you were still in software? Yeah, because where I used to work got bought out, and everybody who still worked for the company that you know worked here. I mean, they just absorbed this company.
Somebody who bought them absorbed the company here that was a little smaller, and you know, you could, I guess, relocate to Orlando if you wanted, but I mean they weren't going to pay for it, so they just basically told you you can keep your job, but you know have you know, we're not going to keep the lease on this side. And by the way, we had such a cool spot in the Germantown I'm not german Town. I'm sorry, Butchertown Market. But uh yeah, I would.
I imagine I would, which you know, it still would be you know, a good gig, and I would love doing it, but it wouldn't be the same. Part of what made that job fun is I I like, you know, I'm a tech nerve myself, and I didn't mind working with computers and software and that kind of stuff. But also like the environment, like you know, the you know, my co workers, that kind of stuff. That's what made it. That's what made it fun. If I was just doing it by myself alone in my basement or something, I
think I probably hate it. Speaking of that, I learned during the pandemic work from home, and it sounded good to me, you know, pre twenty twenty, Like if I was doing, you know, a job that wasn't this one, I would think, hell, yeah, if I can work from home, I do it every day. Well then I did work from home every single day, and it was not for me. I think everybody's different, you know, some people I think probably love it, but I know I'm not alone as far as learning, Like, hey, that's
just not a healthy thing because I'm not going to be as productive. I just don't like being alone by myself all day. That wouldn't be that would that would really bother me. I mean, everybody needs their alone time to kind of you know, do you and decompress that kind of stuff. But like, but it's also easy to get in your own head. And oh my gosh, yes, my head is my worst enemy for a variety of
reasons. One at times, you know, I just really expose how big of a dumbass I can be. But also I just overthink everything and I just get like completely lost in my own head. And you know, I'm not one thing I wish I was a lot better at, and maybe I
could if I really tried. I wish I could be more. I wish I could be more productive, and and you know, if I'm sitting around, I'm just not going to be as productive if I was you know, up and up and moving around and doing something in like an office setting, like in an actual workplace. But everybody's different. So again, I we you know, I could work from home every day if I wanted to with this show, but it wouldn't be the same, and you know, I'd
miss the company man's presence. And we made it work. When we were toying around with the live streaming, we were able to see each other and that made it feel more like when you're here in studio. But whenever we can't see each other on camera, that's what really creates a different dynamic with the show. I feel like, yeah, and it's all it's also just all in my head, like even if even if I didn't see you on
camera, I would know you're next to me in the other room. If I'm at home and I can't see you on camera, it's like, what, like, is anybody out there? It's like I'm just sitting here, you know, talking, talking to myself. But we once we've really got our groove going with the doing the live stream of the show, meaning like through Facebook, Twitter and all that YouTube. Right as soon as I feel like we started to catch a little bit of a rhythm, that's whenever it
got they pulled the plug up and that's how that stuff always goes. But I will say this, there's no doubt in my mind if we're here every day in this setting, this you know, in our great studios we have set up here in downtown Louisville at four Street Live. Like that's that's when the show is gonna be its best. And you know, that's what we're doing. And that's what we're doing today. We're taking you up till six
o'clock. Hopefully you guys will stick with us. I will go ahead and warn you you know, I'm not going to recap the s piece from last night. That's not happening. I don't have a lot of thoughts on what Joe Biden said when he showed up very late and continued to really I mean just I mean, I've thought I didn't watch it, but seeing all the clips because it was all anybody was talking about. Because it has become appointment
viewing. Not because just these guys are running for president, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, but it's it's appointment viewing if you're in it for the comedy effect, like if you're in it to be you know, to kind of just laugh so you don't cry that kind of stuff, you know what I mean, sad clown, Yeah, because that's I mean what he said last night with Putin and then Vice President Trump. You can't make that stuff up,
like you that's that's a script out of a movie. Like given all the noise about how incompetent Biden seems to be and has proven to be with his goofs and just you know, inability to like you know, put together a coher and sentence, doesn't seem like he knows what planet he's on, Like, you can't make this stuff up. And and you hear from some of his biggest supporters, famous people you know who've donated a lot of money, George Clooney one of them, like saying, hey, like I'll say
it, this guy needs to step down. And and you know, just move on, like this isn't gonna work. And then he shows up and says those things that he said last like you can't make it up. It's insane. And again, let's just laugh, so we don't, we don't cry. So anyways, like we're gonna mix it up on a Friday, We're gonna have some fun. We're gonna let you guys be a part of
the show. I did something earlier today that I should have done previously, and I probably should do more often, And that is do a good fifteen to twenty minute filter of the text line to check in on some things that I may have missed that could be good talking points, some good points made by you listeners, some good questions that come in, some good insults about me that can always be you know, we can. That's just that's what we go to when we run out of stuff. Just make fun of me.
Right self deprecation. It always plays. Man, if you can lean into it, and you can really you know, just embrace it. It works, It really does. So we'll have some fun today. Don't forget though. If you are out and about doing whatever it is you're doing on a Friday afternoon, you can take us with you. Listen live on the iHeartRadio app Listen live at seven ninety Louisville dot com. And if you want to be a part of the show today, there's a lot of options.
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you to get on webcam with them. Those aren't real Nick. Those are those are not real women that want to you know, see you know, they want to get naked for you on webcam. It's kind of like people who believe that the prints of Nigeria really did email them and say, look, if you send me one hundred thousand dollars, I'm gonna give you twenty million. Like in all seriousness, I'm not that naive. But Twitter, I'll give you a long musk a little credit like that stuff does go automatically
to a different like thing. It's where I don't see it. So if you want to DM me, that's probably your best bet, because sometimes like replies and mentions get a little lost. But if you want to get involved on the show, through Twitter X you can DM me at the card Connect. So again, we're gonna open up for you guys today. And I'm really gonna stick with that because I made it quite clearly when I was putting together what I wanted to do here on a Friday to get us out of
here for the weekend. I wasn't going to try to force something that I don't care about it. I'm pretty sure you don't care about either. Like anybody watched The SP's last night, I mean, some of the content from like the the athletes who go up there and make jokes and entertain it didn't surprise me, but I kind of felt like a like an idiot for assuming that they wrote their own stuff, like did you know that John? Like some of the people who make like funny jokes on the SP's and you know,
get a good laugh and it's actually like somewhat clever. They don't write it. Most of them. Doesn't surprise me. It's kind of in the same format as like a late night talk show. I think, yeahs kind of oh yeah, and it's wild because last night, you know, I didn't watch the SP's at all. But if you're popping open Twitter you're seeing
the Nick Saban stuff you're seeing. And then there was also a and they didn't mention Louisville, but there was something said about Scotty Scheffler from Nicki Glazier that was clearly referencing what happened here with Scotti Scheffler, which I thought was kind of funny. Nick Saban said something as he accepted an award and like he's kind of becoming like really likable, which I don't know if that's like
surprising or not. I mean, he wasn't a villain in college football, but he was just so dominant, you know, he became Goliath and you always wanted to pull for the underdog. But again I didn't watch any of it, but I did see a good breakdown. I think it might have been at awful announcing that put together kind of a rundown of sort of how this stuff works. Like there are some people, like, for example, Nicky Glazer, she's not an athlete, she's a comedian, so she doesn't
need somebody to write her stuff. That's literally what she does. But you know, probably like the Serena Williams, who you know, took a shot at Caitlyn Clark last night, Like, I'm sure she didn't write that, And again it's not surprising, as you said, John, you mentioned those late night talk shows. But then later on, I was watching the news last night. That's what I do now as an old man. My kids and my wife go to bed, and I'm sitting up watching the local news.
Well, yeah, it's with thirty six is baby? Hey, nothing else on too. I'm too old to stay up and like you know, get into something and binge it. Let's just watch the local news till I fall asleep on my recliner like an old fart. But when the news ended, it was was it Jimmy? I guess fallin? Depends on what channel it is, Yeah, on I think it was on Wave, like NBC. Is that Jimmy fou Jemmy? He's really I don't know, I get
the mixed up. And sure enough, like I'm right after reading that article, I'm then watching this and seeing Jimmy fallon, I'm like, yeah, quite literally, somebody wrote that for you, and you're just kind of like reading off the teleprompter, you know, whatever. Whatever works, which those shows like, there's clearly an audience for them, and I'm sure that they have like an insane amount of viewers every night, or even people who watch
it now like on on replay with DVR, that kind of stuff. But I don't know who the market is for that, Like who's the demo? I think it's people what's that. I think it's people who have already retired. And that's not an old people joke, but I feel like that era of television viewership that's like whenever they were growing up, that's and all that
stuff was getting really big and popular. Yeah, I mean, and I actually don't like there's some of those and I can't even think of all the names of people who've done shows like that, like obviously Jimmy Fallon's the one I just mentioned. M yeah, Kimmel, and then like there was Letterman and Leno, right, like that's the same stuff. Doesn't retired? I don't know. I think Leno's re tired too, So like I actually think those guys are pretty good, like entertaining, I don't you know, It's
not like I think, oh, who would watch that? Those guys suck. They're not entertaining. It's just that format that cont like that, that whole shtick, Like I I guess it's timeless because I'm just thinking to myself, like, even if you like those hosts and you really are interested in the guests that they would have, I just I don't know, Like I to me, it seems like such an old fogy kind of thing. And plus a few of them take frequent jabs at the most popular politicians like Trump
and Biden. I think Stephen Colbert is pretty well known for being a Trump hater. Yeah, who's the one who? Uh gosh, And I shouldn't get into this without really knowing the specifics and really remembering names, because it's going to make it look as if I'm just making something up. But there's there's someone who is always attacked by the Republicans. Who's one of those hosts. Is it Jimmy Fallon? I shouldn't throw that on about that. Some
of them are more harsh towards Trump than others. There was one who who, really, in all honesty, like was nasty about the vaccine, like instead of just like you know, encouraging people and kind of lightly shaming him, like acted as if you should like you don't be mad if you know you're basically like if you die, that's what you get and I that's not word for what was word what was said. But yeah, I just I don't know, like that's that that that kind of stuff is just not uh,
not for me. But you know, hey, there's a lot of things that are for me that a lot of you would say, who the hell would watch that? So before we set the table and get us rolling, I do have a question for anybody, John Listeners, this is the time of year where if you're high school basketball, recruiting used to be something that I feel like, well, it's always a niche, but if you're a diehard fan of Louisville basketball, Kentucky basketball, we can even throw Indiana
in there. You know, recruiting is important and it still is. I mean, like recruiting has always been important and it always will be to an extent. But like right now, you've got the Peach Jam going on, which is the biggest AAU event in the country, has been for quite some time, some of the best players in the country participating in it. I
mean, we are in the thick of it. When it comes to all these college basketball coaches, right they're not recruiting in the portal, They're not you know, they're they're at all these recruiting events, and I just got I kind of feel as if because the portal has now been such a huge factor in how you can really reset your roster, gather expectations for the upcoming season based on how your team did in the portal, I just don't think
that there's quite the appetite for that anymore, because you may still have the occasional freshman that comes in and makes a big impact. Because again we talked about it all week, Cooper Flag maybe the best freshman that enters the college basketball ranks in a long long time. I mean we talked about Zion.
I mean, Zion didn't have this level of hype. Zion's hype was kind of like a roller coaster, to be honest with you, because by the time he got to college, a lot of people that just thought, well, yeah, that ain't gonna work. He's as good as he's gonna get. He's fat, he's slow, and he can't dribble, he's undersized for you know, for a big man. And then everybody was completely wrong.
So it still matters, like I'm gonna get excited. I find myself looking into the write ups as far as who the best recruits are out there, and which recruits Pat Kelsey and his staff are watching because they're there right now.
I mean they're at We actually heard him reference that when we played the Andy Kats interview that he did earlier this week, So you know, I recruiting has always been something that when it comes up on a show like this, especially when we're talking you know, Drive Time, you know, PM, Like, I just I know that there are some people that are feening for information because they really get into it, like message board people. If those people are still still around for me, they all went to the Trilli
Dnovan discord. I don't know, but I know there's also some that just don't really care, and I just feel like when I go there, I'm like, well, I'm losing them as a listener because they just they care about Louis of basketball, Kentucky basketball. But they're just not you know, they don't. They're they're the crew that's like, well, you know, I'll either read about it on the internet as far as you know, getting
information, or I'll just wait until they arrive and then get excited. From my perspective, I feel like whenever the recruiting involves a local prospect specifically, like what the Indiana show that I work on in the mornings, they get all horned up about any local Indiana Hell yeah, they'd be interested, whether AAU players or not. Anytime there's news regarding the Indiana high school guys, people will eat that stuff up. I mean, was is Miller cop the
guy? Or no he's not from Indiana? Is he? No? I couldn't think if he's from media. He who's like a posta guy and a guy. There's one of the guys who covers IU that used to do it for Espionation. He's really funny. He doesn't golf. He's Kyle Robbins. I'll shout him out. Yeah, he does golf as well. Kyle Robbins is really funny and he it to me. It's it's just right down my
lane. As far as like comedy on Twitter, whenever one of the white dudes who was from Indiana got hot in a game this past year, probably against like a no name non conference team, he sent a screenshot and it just showed like the iPhone text message thread and the contact was Dad and the message just said I really like such and such. It was game cups. Yeah, game cups and and and I'm just like, that's that's perfect right,
Like that's exactly what you were just referencing. Right, The stereotypical white boy gave cups isn't from Indiana's from Ohio. But it's that typical type of a player. Well, if you and if if somebody, if if you didn't know, and you said he grew up in Bloomington, and and you know, the only clothes he ever wore had the candy stripe red on it, everybody would believe it. Right, Yes, he's the he fits the mold. So you know, there's look, trust me, recruiting is always
important, and there is an interest in it. I just have never really been able to find a good balance as far as how to make it somewhat entertaining and interesting. It certainly could be informative, but that's really as far as I usually go with it. However, I will say there's a huge I mean, that's that is really what's left of the Internet when it comes to content about teams like you know, this day and age, like you can crank out blog posts and all that, and I used to do that.
That was my life. I mean, that's how I got my start and whatever you want to call this. But nowadays, man, Twitter's killing a lot of that. You know, like it's still out there, but you know, as far as just like hey, let me share my thoughts on the game, there's still value in that. People put great work in. But the time spent on a dot com website now, especially if you end up at the dot com website from a social media platform like Twitter,
it's such a small thing because people just want to scroll. They don't want to read a lot, and there are people that do. But I'll bring all that up to say, when you're talking recruiting, people care like that is still a huge market and that's why, you know, that's it's an undefeated kind of thing. I know that, like the message board stuff isn't
as big as it once was. But as far as people who do cover recruiting have inside information and you know, put it up on websites like that, that has really been a timeless thing because even if it's not you know, like even if eighty percent of the fan base isn't isn't really that into it as far as checking every day, the twenty percent that is, man, it's like all they do. So you know, I'm not acting like
recruiting and coverage and all that stuff isn't important. I just again, it's some me thing I've never really understood how to make it, you know, interesting when it comes to a radio topic. But there are some local kids
that I mean'd be a great story. I don't mean we're way I'm getting way ahead of myself even thrown it out there, But there are a couple of kids from Louisville, some that are still around here, some that are well actually that neither of them play here in this city anymore, but they're
from here, and like, it'd be such a cool story. If Pat Kelsey, you know, he lands, he puts together his first couple of recruiting classes and they feature dudes that have clearly the hometown connection, and they're believed to be some of the best players in the country. So we will get into that a little bit later on, but we'll be all over the place that they will have some fun and again we'll let you guys be a
big be a big part of the show. So you know, I don't know if you guys have any weekend plans, but it's another weekend for me, John where I really don't have a lot going on, and I'm once again looking forward to it. Was it last weekend I said that and ended up being wrong or was it the week before? I can't remember last you remember when I asked July, wasn't it? Yeah? I think it was a week before, because last week, if you remember, I was like,
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front of other people. But it's good before your time, isn't it. It could be I mean, I mean not like before you were alive, but like before I was like, I remember when this was this was new John, who is it? Tal Bachmann? Well, I assume it was human beings making the music, but I didn't know if it was a band or that was just their that was their name or what. But good stuff. This was in a movie before I ever heard it anywhere else. And then it became you know, I feel like it became a big, big
hit man. There used to be songs that, really, you know, before the internet did its thing, you know music. You know, not to nerd out on this stuff, because I'm sure I'm saying something that everybody's well aware of and if you're the younger generation, you're thinking, what the hell you're talking about. But before the Internet, think about how you had to get music out to people. There weren't that many options. You you had to get on the right d I mean, you just did. Like
there was no other way for you to market music. I mean, the Internet did not mean and even even when the Internet was was a big thing initially like the first I don't know, like I feel like artists could begin getting discovered off the internet. Once YouTube became a bigger thing, well you could get discovered and you could get coverage, but like playing me, like
streaming was not something the Internet was capable of, like YouTube. YouTube was became a thing like when I was when I was like in high school. So the Internet existed long before that. And of course obviously Napster and lime
wire and that kind of stuff. But that's really I mean, I feel like to this day, had that never happened, like had Napster never Like if that whole era never was a thing, I don't know if the music industry would have adapted, you know what I mean, Like they had to because there was no scenario that anybody was going to be able to get around
getting that music. Yeah, that's a good point. You can go buy it out, go buy a CD and put it up on a cl out server and and you know, something like Napster or LimeWire or kazah if you remember that one and it was inevitable. Oh yeah, you can. You can make an example out of one person and go, you know, to eight seventeen year old kid's house and arrest him and throw all kinds of you know, federal charges at him. But it's not going to stop the other
millions of people doing it, like you you know so and bother. You could still do that, I suppose. But you know, the Internet has changed a lot in life. I mean it's changed everything, but music is a constant thing, like it's just a I mean, think about how much quicker music became like an internet based thing to Netflix streaming. Like John, I'm gonna make myself sound really old here, but like I remember when Netflix
was with they would mail you DVDs. I remember that too. I wasn't a part of that market obviously, I was a lot younger, but I remember when that was there were commercials and stuff. I'd never heard of Netflix until my mom and stepdad had it and they would get DVDs in the mail, and wouldn't they mail video games to you as well? I feel like that was part of him. That was game Fly. Do you remember game
Flo? I knew there was some service that did do that, but I wasn't familiar with what it was, but yeah, that was that was the thing. So, you know, I really do miss this. I miss big movies. Call you know whoever, you know, whatever production company would put together feature films that were gonna get you know, big box that we're
gonna be big box office hits. They would collaborate with record labels and that is how like they would be a soundtrack made for a movie that featured, you know, a bunch of different artists, and that was a big way to really get your music out there. You're hit. It wasn't just based off the fact that it was gonna be played on the radio. It was gonna be in the preview for a movie. And if you watch a movie, you're gonna hear a bunch of songs that you've probably never heard before,
but you're gonna recognize the artists. Now, most of the music you hear in not all of it, but a lot of music you hear in movies that is actual, like you know, artists, rather than just instrumental music for effect. It's it's people who you know, you know, they got it's called a placement, like you know, because they can now search a humongous database called the World Wide Web and find music's that's music that is licensed
and they can use it. You know, they can use it that way back then that didn't exist, Like you had to basically like go into the lab. Hey, we're creating this movie. Let's get this record label, that record label to gather whoever they have as an artist, and we'll have to put something together. Like it was a part of the of the of the creative process in a movie, and still obviously when it comes to cinema,
music is a big part of how it all comes together. But you have endless things to reference to find what fits it used to be where you had to all kind of create it together. And I'm sure I'm sounding like an old nerd here, but like that I've missing that the biggest it was an art to it. The biggest example of of what you were talking about
that I can think of, at least how it relates to me. Is in one of the Spider Man movies, Chad Krueger of Nickel Webb and Josie Scott from Saliva did the song Hero and that wasn't like a Nickelback song before that movie. That was made for that movie and then became a hit after the fact. Man, that that time. I can't remember what year that
was, but that was right around the time that that stuff stopped. But I know exactly what we were talking about because again, like they were promoting when we weren't on our smartphones, because I don't even if smartphones were really a thing at that time. When we weren't connected to our own devices and our hands non stop. We were always watching TV and you would see commercials and previews for that stuff NonStop. And now it's just different, man,
It's it's a different world, all right. It's Coffee and Company. That's us. We are feel abou Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. If you want to join us on the Llen and Federal Credit Union text line, you can five two six five three zero set of ninety. This text says Nick when it comes to the players with local connections, you mentioned I know one you're talking about is Tyron Stokes. Who's the other one, Well, Tyron Stokes is one that I was talking about, and the other one is
Kate Magwood. So real quick. For those just now joining us that didn't hear me mention this earlier, the Peach jam and the eybl circuit is ongoing, and clearly there's still interested in that for those that are really into recruiting
when it comes to college basketball. But I just think that recruiting, although it's still going to be important, it now has you know, direct competition, and we haven't talked about it much on this show, but the portal has made it harder for high school kids to get opportunities, Like there's no way around that. Like it coaches. Again, I say this all the time. The portals given coaches the opportunity to decide do I want to be young or do I not? And most coaches don't want to be young because
it's a disadvantage and it's more work. You're going and getting a guy in the portal that is maybe not a finished product, but he's not a kid coming out of high school that's eighteen years old that's never really had any taste
of high level, you know, grown man college basketball. So the elite of the elite are still going to be recruited at a high level, and you know they'll still be I mean, I don't want to act as if these guys are going to have nowhere to go, but I feel like, you know, Landing Division one offers for kids that are D one caliber, but they're not three stars. They're you know, guys who used to be Missouri Valley type recruits or I don't know, the MAC something like that.
There's still gonna be opportunities for those guys, but you're not gonna be pursued. Like put it this way. I talked to a high school coach that I know that as an assistant, but he also runs an AAU club. Well he's a part of running an AAU club here in the region, and you know, he says he now tells his kids if you're sixteen seventeen, and you you know, you kind of feel like the schools that are offering
you that is sort of the ceiling for you. Like let's say, let's say John is playing over at Jeffersonville High School and you know, he's about to enter his senior season and he's got you know, seven offers from the MAC and five offers from the Missouri Valley, maybe a couple of Sun Belt
schools, and he's about to be a senior after this summer. At that point, I hate to break it to you, John, but if you're entering your senior year, it's unexpected that the elite of the elite a going to start recruiting you because they've probably already determined that you weren't that level. So you can't be picky. You can't be you can't I mean, you don't want to rush into a decision, but don't wait on an offer from
that level if that's what your level is, because here's what happens. That offer goes away because somebody else takes it, and then they now like those schools, now saves scholarships for the portal, just like everybody else. And that's where these kids don't realize. And I get it. You always want to believe in yourself and think that you can, you know, aim higher.
But you know, if you've got an offer from you know, Ohio or Illinois State and you're still holding out hope that you know, maybe Kentucky offers or Indiana offers that could happen. And here's the thing, if you end up having like an ex, if you really break out and have a huge year, they'll still recruit you even though you've probably already signed, because
that happens. So you know, those are the kind of kids that need to need to take advantage of what's there because if they get selective, as if they're too good for that, then they'll end up, you know, at'll even lower level. And I hate to break that news to you, John, I think you've got potential. I mean, you could do it, but you could do a Joey Hart, right, Wasn't he committed a
Ball State or was it Indiana State or something. I don't know that he ever committed, but I know he hasked for a release to go to go to Kentucky, didn't he That might have been the case. He's back at Ball State now. Yeah, I didn't realize that that was the case. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like he had decommitted when he ended up committing to Kentucky because Louisville was recruiting him too. But either way, anyway, regardless, like that's just the way it is. So anyways, back
to the local kids. And by the way, these two kids I'm referencing are not kids that you got to worry about. When it comes to like h they should go ahead and commit. I mean Tyron Stokes. Let's talk about him. I know he's come up on this show before, but it probably wasn't for a long conversation because I'm pretty sure at the time he was probably fourteen fifteen years old. He's now sixteen, and this makes me feel
really old. He was born in October of two thousand and seven, so Tyron Stokes is believed to be the number one player in the world, in the twenty twenty six class in the world, and he's from Little born in Louisville, lived in Louisville as a kid. I don't know when he moved, but as a young kid, I think, you know, maybe middle school, maybe early middle school, because again he's in the twenty twenty sixth class. This is a guy who still has two more years of high school
basketball before. He just finished his sophomore season. But he became a national name when he was in middle school, so I would assume it's probably like fifth grade, sixth grade. He ended up moving and playing at the prep level. He's now in California playing for Prolific Prep, one of the bigger prep schools in the country. They produced some of the best players in the
country. So I believe his family some of his family still here. I did read an article about him years ago as far as and I could be wrong on this, maybe it has changed, but at the time he moved out to kind of, you know, honestly start his basketball career as a young kid, I think he'd already kind of had some people around him that were, you know, hopefully looking out for his best interest in kind of helping him find the right opportunities to really showcase how good he is. And
so far that has worked because again I'm not just talking. I mean, he's the number one player in the country in twenty twenty six by twenty four to seven by the Composite, and you know, this summer he has continued to showcase just how insanely good he is. And he is from Louisville. Now, I know he still has some family here. I don't know how strong his connections are still here. I mean, again, I don't know
if he grew up a Louisville fan. I don't know much about that part of it, but at least in a couple of different interviews throughout his his time, you know, playing at a high level here in the last couple of years, he's referenced, I mean, he's been asked about Louisville and spoke, you know, highly of him at the I mean, he was so young when he became a phenom, it was foolish to even talk about what school he may be interested in because at that point, who knows who
the I mean at the time, Like, here's the thing when he when he probably first became like a known name, like, Okay, this kid's gonna be special. Louisville probably has had three coaches since then, no joke. I mean that's because of Louisville situation specifically, but like who knows, maybe the NBA one and done rule is no longer a thing at that point, So I don't think there's any feel for where he's leaning as far as
schools what he's gonna do. But you know, he's that good and if Louisville can establish some momentum here in the first couple of years of the Pat Kelsey era and continue to prove to be a top spender in NIL then maybe you could, maybe you could land this kid. I mean, you're obviously
gonna have to pay him a lot. So I'm getting way ahead of myself when it comes to this kid's recruitment because again, you know, he's still got two years left of high school and Pat Kelsey hasn't coached a game yet. But what a story that would be, right, Like, that's the big payoff for an early uh, you know, an early great start for Pat Kelsey if that's what ends up happening. For those who don't know much about him, he's six foot seven, two hundred and forty five pounds.
Just look look him up, Tyron Stokes, t y R A N and he's all over the internet and he looks like a guy who could play in the NBA right now. I mean that's somewhat of an exaggeration, but like he you watch some highlights and you'll see why he has the hype that he has. So what I guess it'll probably be another year or so before you really start to even get a sense for who's believed to be in a good spot for him. So therefore he would probably be you know, the Duke's
the Kansas's, you know, Kentucky. I assume they're still gonna recruit at a high level, like gonna go after big names, but like I would certainly have thrown them in there if Cal is still there, But like Mark Pope's gonna clearly recruit differently. So yeah, Tyron Stokes, that's I mean, he's appointment viewing if you can, if you can find highlights of him, I mean even on the even this summer, any time he plays, it becomes like the most talked about thing, whatever event he's playing at.
And the other one is a guy we've talked about before, Caden Magwood, who I played against his dad in high school for many years and we actually signed to go to the same school initially when we graduated, and his dad was a hell of a player, and Cayden was a freshman at I think it was we yeah, Western High School, and I think he was a freshman there, maybe's in eighth grade, but he was already dunking on people
at the varsity level. And sure enough he ends up at Oakill Academy, where he's been for the last few years, and he's I mean, he's picking up new offers. It seems every week and really good combo guards. So I know his dad was a big UK fan. So I don't know if that well, we'll hurt Loulvi's chances. I would assume it's not,
but he's a name to keep an eye on. Two. All right, we got to get to a break because it's three forty five and for some reason, I'm about to go. I gotta I got a sneeze slash cough thing coming on here. I'm not sure what's going on, but God willing, I'll be back with you in about five minutes. Right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Another song I'm familiar with but can't place who sings it, don't know like what it's known for. This is Eagle Eye Cherry and
similar to the former artist. This is the only song I can probably tell you by them, Eagle Eye Cherry. Yes, I gotta be honest with you. I've never heard of him. I know the song well, I mean it was a big hit you know when I was younger. And this is is this This is a guy, right, not a band. It sounds like a band, but it's definitely a dude. Yeah, looks like from a quick search here that yeah, save Tonight was his only hit, So there you go. Save Tonight came out in ninety seven. You were
born then or in ninety seven? Yeah? Was this from a movie? Do you know? It sounds like it's probably in a movie. It sounds like it, But yeah, I mean being a one hit wonder, Like, I'd never feel sorry for one hit wonders because I feel like they're lucky, not like, oh man, it would suck to only be known for that song because you know, any people who are musicians artists that never had one hit that became like a thing, you know, it is just one
of those things. I bet if you're that person who's had the one hit wonder and you look back and it's been maybe ten or fifteen years, you probably think what could have been? Because you were on top of the world for probably a good majority of the year that your song came out. But that was it for you. Yeah, And you know, if you were a one hit wonder in ninety seven like this guy was, I mean, I feel like it's probably better for you because there's just well, I don't
know, because you could disappear like there was no like that's true. Nobody's popping open TikTok and Instagram. Hey, I wonder what he's up to, because you know, there was no ability to do that, Like I can't think of any band or artists that that has that is that I can think
of that has done it. But I know it's a thing to where there are certain musicians that get bothered if you like, go to a show and halfway through people are, you know, channing and encouraging you to play like the one song they know by you, Like artists times have like felt disrespected and you know we're not just that well like okay, well then just say that ahead of time and we won't be here like there should be. We won't come and watch it because that's what that's what we know, that's why
we're here. There should be a club, like a secret society of bands or artists who have had one hit and they just kind of all hang out together after they disappear from from the uh, I guess being in the public guye for a short time and after a while once once you know, I think you've learned the hard way that yeah, like that was kind of it, Like that it's gonna if I'm gonna keep really I wouldn't even say like
succeeding. But if I'm gonna continue to get gigs and be known and you know, make a living somehow with with with music this craft, like I've got to really really lean on what made me have relevance, and eventually they do that. Like for example, I don't know if this group ever was like Anti their big hit that made them famous, but I saw TikTok the
other day. My sister sent it to me because she was I mean, it was all she listened to when we were I don't know what age, but like young, and we had bedrooms next to each other, and you know, she had posters up all her in the room and I would hear her playing at NonStop and I'd bang on the wall tell him to turn it, turn it down, or turn it off. Handsome umbop. Those guys still tore, and they get good crowds, and man, they get into mumbop and it's a it's a hit, like it's a jam, like the
lie. Like the live version is. They're now like not young teeny boppers, and they're older and you know, like they play with when they play it live, there's a little bit more of like a rock element to it, like it it's it's a song you heard a billion times and I'm sure in real time back then you thought it was the stupidest thing ever. But like when it comes on now, I know I'm not the only one that's like, Okay, you know this this kind of still hits. Do you
even know what song I'm talking about. I'm familiar with Hanson or I've heard of them, but I don't think I know the song at least off the
top of it. No, this this is quite literally the like I mean, this is this is to me the age thing because this song probably came out around the time you were born, and it was like, no, these were two or these were three brothers that were you know, long hair, you know the day just looked like little young hippies and one of them kind of looked like a girl and sounded like a girl because he was so
young. And I don't like, I'm gonna look it up. This song had to be number one on Yeah this This song came out in ninety seven April fifteenth of nineteen ninety seven, and it was It was number one on the weekly charts in Australia. Austria Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Europe, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, US Billboard Hot one hundred, number one, like it was, so it was everywhere. Oh my god,
it was everywhere. I mean it was I mean it was insane, and you know, at the time it just became like, God, shut this is too much. And then you know, I'm sure people now would turn the station if it came on, But it was a little nostalgic for me seeing these guys, now grown men, you know, still playing this hit
that I'm sure you know there are teenage girls at the time. Heck, my sister was ten years old at the tunch went a teenager, all right, two hours left, John doesn't know umbap And I now really do feel thirty six years old.