It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. So this came up a later. It was late last week. I think it actually might have been on Friday, which we had a shorter show on Friday, so I don't know if we had a smaller audience. But the Louisville Kentucky basketball game, the first game with this new era of the rivalry, new era for both programs with Pack Kelsey and Mark Pope. It's going to take place on Saturday, December fourteenth.
It'll be at rapp Arena. And it being on a Saturday, I think is good news for a lot of fans who were just bothered and uncomfortable,
uncomfortable about it being on a weekday last week last year. I think this is a game we'll watch regardless of where they put it, when they put it, because you know, in most instances we care that much Louisville not as much in the last couple of years, just because we were so lifeless and just defeated that losing the Kentucky under Kenny Payne really didn't change I
mean it didn't. It didn't give any added I mean, what Kenny said after the game last year actually is what ended up being the talking point and what really, you know, further proof that he is you know, he was his days were numbered. But anyways, this falls on a perfect day because it's the day. It's the Saturday right after the conference championships in college football take place. So it's kind of like the rare Saturday in the fourth
quarter of the calendar year where there's no football. The NFL, you know, doesn't play on Saturday. In fact, maybe they do play Saturday night on December fourteenth, But either way, you've got Louisville and Kentucky on a day where you're not you know, you're not going to be losing some attention to bowl games, like bowl games haven't started yet, so college football is really just off that week, whereas and actually it might be the day of
the Army Navy game. I think about it. I think that game takes place in between. Actually think it takes place the week after confence championship games. But either way, my point is this college basketball is now doing something that I think is pretty strategic, and I don't know who's responsible for it, but that is a Saturday where you can really kind of have a you know, day to yourself when there's not football to get in the way.
So Louisville Kentucky you're going to play that day. Creighton and Alabama are going to play that day, which should be a really good non conference matchup Xavier and Cincinnati and another rivalry, Tennessee at Illinois. I mean, no connection there that I'm aware of, but that those are two teams that you know, we're two of the top fifteen teams in the country last year. UCLA is going to play Arizona and Phoenix, Texas. A and m is going
to play Perdue. So a really good day of non conference college basketball games on December fourteenth. Obviously we're going to be focused on that Louisville Kentucky game, but I wish the sport of college hoops did more scheduling wise in the earlier part of their season. And sometimes it doesn't matter what they do because football is just going to dominate. We know that, but I think there are some things that you can do to really take advantage of you know,
non conference scheduling, meaning you don't have to follow your league schedule. You know, these events that could be you know again, you're never going to get the eyeballs and the viewership that you get in college football and certainly not in the NFL. But I just wish that by the time football faded out, those that want to jump to college basketball had more familiarity with it.
And I guess I'm just desperate for people to love college basketball as much as I love it, and that's just never going to happen, so I should just get over it. But anyways, for those who missed it, the first Pat Kelsey Mark Pope matchup Saturday, December fourteenth. All right, it's coffee and company. We are feeled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven to ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us here on a hot, hot Tuesday
afternoon. I'm looking forward to going home and playing with my kids outside because you know, it's fun. We got to Moose the new basketball goal the driveway and he's you know, he's he's getting shots up. We're having fun. It's like the first time I've ever actually had a goal for him that's his size, that you know, like I can rebound for him and pass it to him and shoot it and it's you know, it's it's wholesome for
me as a dad. My daughter loves going on walks with her stroller and her baby doll, or maybe she rides her bike and I walk with her, and it's fun. And it's things that I know I will miss badly when they get older. But today's one of those days where I'm like, all right, honey, I'm gonna have to let my wife know when I get done with the kids outside straight to the shower, like I gotta. I got a hose down before I let you near me, because I'm gonna
be sweaty and ready, if you know what I'm saying. So I hate the heat, and I got a lot of pushback. I started the show but by mentioning how soft and weak I am as a man because I cannot handle heat. I mean, it's not gonna kill me. I'll get over it, but I become I mean, can I say it, John, I kind of become a little bitch in the heat. We all have our things that make us a little bitch sometimes. I guess I don't know, you know, is there something I can do like toughing me up with that?
I mean, I think some would say, well, hey, because We had somebody earlier on the text and said, look, I think a lot of people do the same way. But if you work outside and you you know, you just eventually you don't like it, but you just get
used to it towards I know you don't cut your own grass anymore. But that way, thanks thanks also for making me feel less like less of a man, which, by the way, speaking of that, that is the one thing that like I've never would have never claimed to be like a manly, macho guy, but having another man cut my grass is convenient. Uh. I'll give him a shout out. His name's Jimmy Funyak. He does a great job. He's got his own lawn service. I grew up around
him. He's a little younger than me. His mother was my kindergarten teacher. But you know, he does a great job, so if I did, it wouldn't look as good like it's. It's not something I struggle with, but I don't know why, as someone who's always hated cutting the grass and don't like doing yard work, there's just something that really hits me deep, like you're not a man if you're not cutting your own lawn, which
I'm sure plenty of people don't cut their own lawn. But any way, back to the heat, I don't want to be such a you know, I guess I'm a diva, you know. I don't think I am by nature, But like when it comes to being hot outside, I just get uncomfortable, irritable, and I just look around at times and think, like what are we doing? We could be indoors where there's air conditioning, Like
what's going on here? Like who is choosing to be outside in this in the like we're all you know, it's like it's bowl of soup out here, Like it's thick and humid, and I just I can't stand it. But everybody's different, right, Some people hate cold weather and would want to be outside the entire day if it's one hundred degrees and it's just you know, that's not me. Better watch out. There'll be people lining up outside of the studio, just like back during the Kenny Pin era, waiting to
call you a whiny bitch again. Yeah, So, what remind me of how that all came about? I feel like it had something to do with people getting on you, on somebody on the text line or Twitter. Wasn't the caller. Was it because you'd have probably dumped them. No, it was somebody was somebody angry at you for your take on Kenny Payne, and you were coming back at him with something. I don't remember what it was
exactly, but they were calling you a whiny bitch. Yeah. And later that day that we left, it was like the only time I've ever seen it like this, right outside of our studios here at four Street Live. I think there was a concert across the hall at the PBR. And the timing of when we left, like everybody, it was a huge line by four Street and John made it great. It was one of John's best lines
ever. Like it was, this is a huge line of But what I'm missing in the story is there was some type of conversation going on that in regards to people coming to tell me that like showing up the Yeah, like if you want to come here and show me I'm a whiny bitch or something like that. Yeah, And then there was that lot of people. Yeah. So man, the the shows during like the the muck of the Kenny Payne era, like that was something. I'm so glad that's over, I
really am. I don't regret any part of it on my end, meaning like you know, saying what I think and feel. And I've had so many people tell me I really, I really liked how you were honest and you didn't care about what people thought, and I'm like, well, I mean how like that to me was one of those things that was maddening because what would really get me worked up is when people would act like what I was sharing was really opinion based. I mean, like, it's not an
opinion, like look how bad? Like results matter? This is a disaster, and I think because some people would still try to live in fairy tale land like it wasn't as bad. And then I was going out of my way to pick on a guy who won four games in his first year and eight games in his second, lost to more Division two teams, then he beat teams on the road in his career, Like you know, that would really get me worked up because I would just think, like, what do
we do? Like this is not an opinion, this is fact. Kenny Payne is an awful coach. The results tell you that. Everything tells you that. And I do appreciate those that you know, probably didn't find it to be good radio or entertainment, but they at least, you know, could could I guess, have some respect for the fact that even if people didn't agree and I made people mad at times, like I at least just said what I wanted to say. But there's also those that were really nasty
and mean about it. Some just you know, telling me I'm an idiot and then I'm wrong and then I'm negative or I'm a whiney bitch, and then others that would be personal, like you know, say mean awful things, like just because I told them that, you know, Kenny Payne sucks
as a coach. And some of those people have now, like you know, gotten around or responding about anything I posted about Pat Kelsey, and I knew that was going to happen, like that happened with Sadderfield whenever I was pretty adamant that, you know, not that he needed to be fired, but like the guy wasn't good enough to be our coach here, So it's
just part of it. I learned a lot throughout both of those tenures because I knew that one you're never gonna like not everyone is gonna always agree with you, and you wouldn'tant that wouldn't be fun and if that's how it was anyway, But even though you feel justified in your opinion, or if you just flat out no, you're right. Like again, I knew that Kenny Payne was not didn't need to be the coach here any longer than he was.
So some people just don't want to hear that. And when you got to show, that's three hours every day, like it's gonna be discussed, it's gonna be said, and sometimes it's gonna sound repetitive, and it's not because you're just beating the dead horse. It's because that's all that really can be said when you're in that type of situation. So I think I developed
a little bit thicker skin than I used to have. But I don't know the fact that I remember like these troll Twitter accounts that you know are anonymous, like go Cards, Underscore sixty nine, or like if they said something like real mean like personal, like I remember, like I remember that, and I probably shouldn't, but I'm human and you're more likely. I feel
like it's human nature. Some probably are better at dealing with this than others, But I do feel like it's human nature in what we do, and maybe not even radio, but like if you have, you know, if you're out there doing something rather be radio television, I don't know, being a musician, if you're putting yourself out there and it could just be for
a hobby, could be your career. If you have ten people that give you feedback and seven of them are like, wow, you're great, two of them are like, well, pretty good, and then one is really nasty, I just feel like more often not, it's human nature to really remember the person who hurt your feelings rather than made you happy, Like it maybe not hurt your feelings, but just you know, said something mean. But maybe that's just what I choose to believe to try to make myself feel
like you know, now, I believe it. I haven't experienced a lot of it, or really any of it, if I'm being honest. But it's one of those things I don't think. And maybe it comes with age and not that you're old, but you are nearly ten years older than I am. But I feel like I wouldn't handle it very well. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I do handle it well. But you've gotten a chance to see, you know, like you can tell you you see my body language, my facial expressions. Yeah, we talk between breaks.
So, like you, I think at times when it wasn't appearing to be anything on the show that like stood out to me, you could tell, like if certain things got me worked up, you know what I mean. And I remember specifically, I don't remember when this caller and this wasn't a personal attack, but it was it was the guy who called and he was upset that you weren't just reading the stats or yeah, scored however points
during the game. You know what really sucked about that is that was a caller who was regular, who showed up to a couple of remotes, who was always fair, who said when he called the show some of the same things that I would say, but he you know, didn't want to hear it anymore. And it was just that, you know, Kenny Payne needed
to go. It wasn't like I said it every second, but I do remember going back and forth there, and if I heard it now, I'd probably think I probably would say, Nick, you shouldn't have been so worked up. You should have been more you know, just kind. But like, you know, one thing that I will always do with this platform is like I'm not just gonna let people talk for two minutes and let them say incorrect things about what I said, or put words in my mouth or just
you know, say something that's wrong. Like you know, I'd rather have a conversation with somebody that's gonna call than just like you know, gass them up, because they actually called the show because they listened. Like so, yeah, I mean, I'm glad it's over. I'm glad it's over. You and I've never worked together when Louisville basketball was you know, when I
jumped right into anything other than trash, you said, yeah. And by the way, when you January of twenty twenty three, like that was like right then when we knew like it was early KP era, but we knew, man, this ain't going I was. I was doing postgame shows with yeah, prior to joining the afternoon. That's true. That's true. I forgot about that, all right. So again it's coffee and company. We are feeled abut Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging
out with us. So I did talk about this earlier without getting to any of the quotes, but yesterday, I don't know when they spoke. Imagine it was yesterday, but Erkrawf put together in an article that talked about this big change coming to college athletics when it comes to the twenty two million dollars that schools are not going to be allowed to pay athletes if they want to, which I think most that want to compete at the high level are going
to do that. We shared some of his quotes about just the fact that you know, he has no problem in telling people right off the bat that Lull didn't have twenty millions sitting around, so that you know, I don't want to put words in Josh's mouth, but that's a clear insinuation that like, yeah, like everybody else, they're going to have to find ways to come up with extra money to do that. That could be cutting things. I don't want to say sports, but like that's a realistic thing that could
happen. I don't want to act like I know for sure it's going to but like that will happen elsewhere, Will it happen here? I'm not sure. But there's all kinds of different things you can do to cut money here and there. But there's gonna be a lot of cuts or maybe some big cuts that could get you to twenty two million. But one of the other things that Joshua talked about with WDRB is the ACC. Right. We know
the situation with the ACC. Everybody's stuck, right, the grant of rides deal is locked in, and I feel like if Clemson in Florida State could get out, we know by now now the fight has shifted to where all these grand of rights contracts that are super secret, Like this sounds like something that's made up, but it's true. Nobody that's in the ACC readily has a copy of the grant of rights seriously, like you have to go and request to view it in person, which again I thought, there's no way
that's true. It is, So with that said, you know, they want to make it public, which I don't know why they want to do that, Like I don't know if it's because they feel like it'll point out that like the contract should be voided because of something I don't know. But either way, the ACC, the best thing that's got going for it is actually what's put it in this tough spot, which is this everybody's locked in
together. Right, They're not going to be making a whole lot more money Now there's new ways you can make money now, like incentive based revenue that's added. But you know, as far as catching up and closing the gap that's only going to get bigger between accs schools in the SEC and the Big Ten. That's gonna be really tough to do because of the Grand Rights deal.
So the fact that nobody can leave keeps you unified. But nobody's happy here because they know they're gonna get passed, and they've already been passed, but they're gonna, they're gonna they're gonna slowly but surely make a lot less money than schools in the Big Ten in the SEC. Some schools probably won't care because they'll realize, yeah, like this is probably the best we can do. But then again, the scenario that I pointed out that others have
pointed out too. It's not just me, but think about this, like Florida State in Miami. You know they'd leave if they could, because you know everybody would if they could, but they're stuck. Well, in five years they'll be a new Big twelve contract, right, because the Big twelve is kind of rebranding. They lost Texas Oklahoma. They did a pretty good job of going out and adding schools, and they've got a good TV deal. They took the deal that the PAC twelve turned down and was a snob
about, and that ended their conference. So it's not crazy that in five years, if the AC still stuck together and they're still in that twenty, they're still locked into twenty thirty six in this grand of right. Still, when it comes to TV revenue, Central Florida UCF, who is relatively new, they're a baby when it comes to like history within college football specifically compared
to Florida State in Miami. If those two schools, specifically Florida State knows that Central Florida and the Big twelve is making more money than them, like, I mean, I don't know what they're gonna do about it, Like I don't know if they have much power, but like that mean, that's just unacceptable for them and that could potentially happen. So again, I don't think anybody's going to be happy, especially those that realize they could be making
more money. But what are you gonna do about it? So Louisville is not Florida State, Louisville is not Clemson, They're not North Carolina, meaning they're not going to be as attractive. If everybody got to leave and the pact of I'm sorry the big ten in the SEC expanded, Louisville could find a spot in one of those. Maybe, But I've always felt like, when it comes to the hierarchy of the league, if it just becomes those two leagues poaching the ACC, if it gets killed Louisville, I don't know
where they'd fall. Maybe they'd be one of the top five most pursued, maybe they'd be closer to seven eight. I really don't know, and we may never need to know, because again, right now, it looks like the league's stuck together. But I've never understood. I guess I understand. I can't relate. That's a better way to describe it. I can't relate to the conference affiliation love because Louisville has been in so many different conferences in
my life as a fan. I just have never really, I mean, I've cared because I realized how important it is to be in a league that's not you know, like that's a joke. But as much as I realize how important it is for your league to be good, I just like if Louisville is in the ACC or the Big twelve. I really don't care as long as they are still able to compete with the top tier programs and be, you know, along for the ride, have a seat at the table,
as they say. But here's what Joshurea I had to say about the ACC quote, I'm bullish on the ACC. And you may say, well, don't you have to be? And yeah, maybe this is born out of the out of necessity a little bit, but I don't think I'm being naive. I think the ACC is in a really strong position. And I just continually say, if Louisville can continue to be in the third best conference in the country, we're in a really good spot. That's I don't think
that's unfair. I mean, nobody wants to just strive for third, but if you're in third, like, if you're in the third spot, then you know you're not the Big ten, and let's be real, you are like money aside, the ACC is not the same caliber league as the SEC in the Big ten. We know that. Here's another quote says I think at times we fans lose sight of where the ACC really is. There's a lot of athletic departments that would pay, I mean handsomely to be in the
ACC. As I always as I always, I always kind of refer to it. We live in a pretty good neighborhood. And I think sometimes we all get used to driving into our neighborhood, right, and we go to another neighborhood and that isn't as nice, and we realize we live in a really good, nice neighborhood. And that's what I don't want us, our fans, other members of the ACC to forget that. In the ACC, we continue to win more championships than any other conference. Academically we continue to
be second to none. And you can say those things don't matter, they do matter. So I have no issue with anything Josh said, And I think that's a very good way to look at it and speak on it from the position that Louisville and the ACC is in. But it all comes down to Clemson in Florida State if they get out, because if they get out, the league is not third. It's not You cannot replace Clemson in Florida State with anybody that's going to give you the value that those two give you
and the relevance that those two give you. It's just the facts so you can say all that, but I would hope that if you start to get a feel for them getting away out you you know Josh, you know he
can do what he wants. It's his job. You know, he knows more about it than I do. But I feel like if you if the tide started to turn and it felt like, Okay, they may find a way out of this, they're gonna leave, I would do whatever I can to see if the Big twelve will take you, because look better scenario would be the sec of the Big ten. But I just don't think that's realistic unless there's a mass expansion. But you don't want to be left in the
ACC when the big dogs leave, because then you are. I mean that neighborhood's not what it once was. And I don't know why, but for a weird reason, I just I just kind of feel like Louisville would fit in the Big twelve a little bit. I don't know. I agree with you, though, I mean, West Virginia's in the Big twelve if I
feel like their old rival, yes, Cincinnati is now too. I mean, I just for me, I think you can say that like the ACC thank you for the lifeline, because who knows what Louisville Athletics would have looked like if they not had been able to get a seat at the table of the power five. You know, you probably don't have Lamar Jackson, right, I mean, who knows, who knows what would have happened had that
not been the case. So again, thank you ACC, but I have no rom and saying like I've kind of been underwhelmed with the league in a way. I know I sound like, you know, greedy or whatever, because I'm happy that they're in the ACC and not any American, But if the ACC loses their two top dogs, I would hope that herd can can find a new landing spot because I just don't think it would be ideal to
be stuck with the leftovers. But you know, maybe that never happens, because again, the one thing that's keeping this league together is they're all stuck together, at least for now, and it doesn't Again, I feel like by now, if they could have found a way out of that grant of rights, it would have happened. Quick break, don't go anywhere, keep
it locked right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety Thank you, John, appreciate it, after saying in the first segment that I'm you know, to quote the Sawyer Brown song I ain't first class, but I ain't white trash. That's led to John Now playing three saw Your Brown songs today, which it's a good day on the show. If that's the case, Love me some saw Your Brown Any any nineties country is usually gonna fly with me.
So thank you, John. So let's talk Coleman Hawkins, Trevon Brazil, who is kind of a forgotten name going into last year, actually two years ago, a lot of hype was at Arkansas with Musselman got hurt, I believe shortly after the Maui invitation when Louisville played them and missed the rest of that season, and then came back last year. And I don't know if he was shaking off for US, but Arkansas was a mess last year and him not, you know, being very good last year was a big part
of that. So he hit the portal still viewed to have NBA upside and I'm not even sure what schools were interested in, what his recruitment was, where it was leading, but it was just announced in the last hour or so. But he's actually going to stay at Arkansas and play for John Caliperi there, so that sounds like it is eliminated at Arkansas from contention here for Coleman Hawkins. Also, Kansas State an another school that I believe has been
viewed as a real, real potential landing spot for Coleman Hawkins. The Illinois transfer they've landed up go On Yinsu, the former Kentucky big just committed to Jerome Tang within the last hour, and I don't think those two guys are in any way the same type of player. But then again, we are talking about, you know, six eleven seven foot big, so even if
you play differently, you're still essentially at the same position. Although Hawkins can can certainly play four, but if you have to put him at a five, he can do that too. So sounds like there's more momentum for Louisville
to I guess emerge as the most likely landing spot here. And it's not been reported just yet, but I do know Trulli Donovan and I think even Jody Dimmling on his website has has mentioned that a visit is in the works, meeting they're trying to I don't know if it's confirmed, if he's got his flight book just yet, but it sounds like a visit from Coleman Hawkins to Louisville could happen, and again, this would be monumental. I'm starting
to believe as an outsider. I hate to say it as if, like if they don't because as big as this would be to land someone this talented from the portal, you know, it's not like if they don't get him, they can't be good. But I think you already have a lot of good pieces that fans can legitimately be excited about and expect to be a tournament team. Now, if you don't get there doesn't mean we've got a panic
and act like it was a failure. But I think you can look at what you have now and think this is a tournament caliber team And I think you're justified and thinking that now. Again, only time will tell, but you throw in Colemanhawkins, I feel like it turns into not only an expectation of the tournament where you feel like you could be a justify yourself being a
top twenty, top fifteen caliber team. Now, maybe I'm getting a little ahead of myself, but from a personnel standpoint, I mean I don't think that's Homer Louisville thought. I don't think that's Cardboy, you know, getting the best of me here. I think that's legit. I mean, just think about this. I mean, if we were to play out that way and you know, you end up landing Coleman Hawkins and how I am already getting ahead of myself. I mean again, think about the different options you
would have when it comes to personnel. I mean, Chucky Hepburn, Terrence Edwards, Junior, Javon Hadley, Coleman, Hawkins, Case and Pryor. That that could be your starting five. I mean doesn't have to be, because I think there's some guys on the bench there that would be worthy of a starting spot. Corn Johnson from Washington, Rain Smith, lightside shooter, I mean, Cater Treure. I mean, you guys know, I think the world of him. I think he's gonna be hard to keep off the
floor. Noah Waterman, a double digit guy last year, shot forty percent from three at BYU in the Big twelve throw in. You know, James Scott, who they still believe has a lot of upside. I mean, this team could be really good, and they could be good without Coleman Hawkins. But that's a that's a final piece that really does just change I mean, against there's one guy, and it's not like he would be a preseason National Player of the Year, but it gives you a little bit more punch,
and I hope it happens. We'll see again. I'm not reporting that he's going to visit, but it sounds like a visit is in the works, which means I guess they're trying to get it figured out. And there is an outlet out there called Sleepers Media. They cover college basketball. They do a pretty good job, a couple of young guys who have some affiliation
I think with the field of sixty eight guys. But they put together something earlier on one of their live streams about Colemanhawkins, and they reported that Louisville apparently has two million dollars available to pay him, which, look, if they got it and that's what it takes and they can afford it, you know whatever. But again, I just have a hard time believe in some of these numbers that are thrown out there when it comes to an il. But hey, maybe I'm just a hater, but that's a lot of money
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but the first event since his appearance in the PGA Championship. That, of course, when you think of Scotty Scheffler and you think of the PGA
Championship, you think of a story that still doesn't even seem real. The number one golfer in the world, on his way to Day two of the PGA Championship at Valhalla, arrested crazy, but it happened, and he seems to have handled this as good as anybody possibly could in his situation, right, I mean, I didn't assume that he was lying about anything, but you know, knowing that everything he told us appeared to be true because of
the proof that we have with the video and hearing his conversation with the officer, Like to me, this is a guy who, again his status a pro golfer, who again, by the way, is one of the world's best. I just don't think you'll find many people in that space, meaning elite, celebrity, superstar athlete, that would have been as professional and understanding and respectful. I mean, average joes who are good people. I don't think would have handled it as well as he did, which again props to
him. But he talked earlier today and he did not say Louisville correctly, which, look, I don't blame him. If it was an intentional thing, we probably deserve it, I mean, not us specifically, but you know, I can imagine if his view of Louisville from here on out is not a good one, because again it's the first and probably the only time he'll ever be arrested. But him not knowing how to say the name Louisville
just is still a head scratcher for me. I did not want to have to pursue legal action against Louisville because at the end of the day that the people of Louisville are then gonna have to pay for the mistakes of their police department. That just doesn't seem right. So, I mean, I mean, when people say Louisville or Louisville instead of you know, how we say
it Louisville, it never really it doesn't really bother me. And I don't even like have I never even feel the need to like correct anybody, just because you know, that's just not my personality to do that. But uh, I think, after hearing it a second time giving it some more thought, I don't think there's a scenario where he did that to try to like, you know, slight the city by mispronouncing it, because what I mean,
he's done everything. I mean, he's I mean, he literally the clip I played for you is him talking about how he didn't want to file a lawsuit because he didn't want he didn't want the citizens of Louisville, as he said, to have to pay for it. So I'm going to go with a theory that I saw put out there earlier today I believe might have been airic Crawford who said that there is actually Louisville, Texas, but it's spelled Louisville, not like we spell Louisville. So maybe that just because Scotty
grew up in the Dallas area. So maybe that's why he. I buy that too, Yeah, maybe that's what it is. Now, if it was somebody who throughout has been pretty bitter about it, which would be understandable, then I would think, yeah, maybe he's just trying to you know, or if he just kept saying Lewisville, like in the same I always said it twice, but if he said it maybe three or four times, that'd be a little suspect. I think, yeah, I'm with you,
all right. So we did also lead the show today, believe it or not. Podcasts will be evidence if you don't believe us. We love the show with some WNBA stuff, some hot takes, and it's really just revisiting the topic that is I think dominated the you know, the platforms, radio, television, podcast, live streams when it comes to sports. The Caitlin Clark bullying if you want to call it that, or just the fact that she's you know, they're they're out there trying to beat the hell out of
her. Like that is that has dominated the news cycle in the conversation in the sports world, like the WNBA never has. And I don't believe that it was all strategic, But either way, this is good. I don't know if it's a good look, but the WNBA is is is. I mean, it's a gift, like the league is a gift from the NBA. The NBA funds it. It doesn't make any money, it loses a ton of money, and that's I mean, that's just the reality of the
situation. That's not an insult to anybody. That's just the facts. So it doesn't give much attention ever, And now it's got a lot of attention, more than it probably ever has. And even if it's not a good look, it's still good for them to have ratings the way they are, Like there'll be people willing to tune in just because they want to see if Kaitlyn Clark gets attacked again. Like that sounds crazy, but it's the truth.
So I've enjoyed hearing different perspectives on this. I thought Michael Wilbon of Pardon the Interruption had a really good take that I heard yesterday that made its rounds on Twitter. I actually really enjoyed listening to Jim Rome talk about it
both yesterday and today on his show. And I don't have any added thoughts from what we talked about yesterday, but after hearing Kaitlyn Clark yesterday kind of respond to it and do her first media availability because she was suspended and I suspended fine one thousand dollars because she wouldn't come out and talk to the media after she applauded her teammate for taking a cheap shot at Kaitlyn Clark and then took one of her own, like you know, and I just think somebody
needs to like tell her you are making this worse. I don't think she's a terrible person. I don't know her, but she's got to figure out who she is, because here I can tell you what she is right now. She's jealous, and it's very evident in every way that she's extremely jealous of Caitlyn Clark. And her comments here that I'll let you guys hear, I mean, I think that that's I mean to me, that's the evidence
if I can find it. Here we go. This is her talking yesterday to the media again for the first time since the whole situation happened over the weekend, and she's claiming that, you know, it's not just one person, meaning Kaitlyn Clark, that has led to the you know, this amount of attention and viewership on the WNBA if it'll play here we go championship game.
And I've been dealing with this for two years now and understanding like, yeah, negative things have probably been said about me, but honestly, I'll take that because look where women's basketball is. People are talking about women's basketball. You never would think that me. We talk about women's basketball. People are pulling up to games, We got celebrities coming to games, sold aut arenas like just because of one single game, and just looking at that,
like, I'll take that role. I'll take the bad guy role, and I'll continue to take that on and be that for my teammates. And if I want to be that, and I know I'll go down to history. I'll look back in twenty years and be like, yeah, the reason why we're watching women's basketball is not just because of one person. It's because of me too, And I want you to realize that. So jealousy is a really is a really ugly emotion and that's what this is all rooted from.
I mean, you could hear the insecurity in her voice in what she said about it's not just her, it's me too, where she really looks bad in my opinion, and kind of feel for not not as if like she hasn't brought all this on herself. But she doesn't know what she wants to be. Does she want to be a victim that claims that she gets you know that she's the villain only because everybody loves Kaitlyn Clark and they don't like her because they love Kaitlyn Clark. Does she want to be the victim?
Or does she want to truly be the villain? Which one is it? You can't be both. You don't embrace the villain role. You cry and act as if you are, you know, being picked on at times like which one is it? You cannot do both? And she's she's trying to
do both. And again like the way she behaved in that National Championship game, like people can say what they want about Kaitlyn Clark getting fiery and you know, emotional, because I don't even know I think Kaitlyn Clark's antics at times, although they're not like, you know, totally dirty, but like you know, she's fiery as a player. She has a lot of emotion when she plays. But like that was not what Angel Reese did when she walked up to her and taunted her like with the ring finger, like to
her face. Like that wasn't the same thing at all. Like if you took a lot of heat and became a villain and people didn't like you because of that, that is on you and nobody else. All right more WNBA takes on the other side at least once per hour. I have mentioned how hot it is outside today, which it was and maybe it still is. But because we are truly in caves here, John, did you know that
it's been like pouring outside for an hour it's rain coming. I didn't know when I'm looking here at the woky traffic cam and around Arthur Street on sixty five there was like, you know, people going real slow because of flooding, like because of you know, high planning. Yeah, I mean, like so see, that's why I was so muggy though that rain was that it has to be it. I mean, it was just it's just gross out there. Man. So maybe and you know, while it's raining.
I'm sure it's not hot, but you know, the post rain humidity is probably going to hit us right in the face when we walk outside. I mean, it doesn't matter. It has nothing to do with with with you know, this job being on the radio, you and I together. But it is weird how like you know, I when I walk in here, usually it's about four hours different, you know, four hours later. And you know it's especially weird in the winter time, whenever it goes from light
to dark. Yeah, you get sad when that happens, don't you. I don't get sad like people get like that seasonal depression. That's not me. Yeah, but some people are, like you, devastated. It's like if they get off work and it's already dark, it's like they never have any It's like, you know, it's just miserable. Yeah. So all right, we're out of time. You guys, enjoy your Tuesday evening. We're back at it tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven ninety