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you know, I don't want to go to commercial break. I want to take in every minute, every second I can get on the air here because after today I'm going to be gone for five days, so I'm out of here. Tomorrow morning. We're heading out of town and you'll be in good hands with some very capable fill in hosts Tony Even, Eddie, Dave Jennings, Scott Fitzgerald and of course the one, the only, the company man himself, mister John Alden will be here. Now you're not taking tomorrow off,
right, correct, They'll still be here. Comp day. Nice. Nice. I I really do think it's worked out once again, fingers crossed. I feel like it's another trip, another you know, exit from the show for a few days to where the timing is on my side. The NBA drafts next week, so I'll be back for that, and as weak as the draft is, I am really excited about the draft because you know,
the draft is awesome. I mean even I mean the draft being stronger weak doesn't change my interest in watching and consuming, you know, a live draft. So looking forward to that. But again, I'll be out. So when you don't hear me, it's not because they got rid of me, or maybe you know, maybe they do and they don't tell me until
I get back. But yeah, last show for me of the week here, all right, So we did talk a little bit about the NBA Finals last night coming to an end as the Celtics won the NBA title, and this really felt like a very w hum not a lot of great storylines. The games weren't all that competitive, and you know, the Celtics are one of the bigger franchises in all of sports, so you know, it's not as if we had a bunch of them teams nobody cares about that made it
deep into the playoffs. And then with the Mavericks, you know, they won a title in what twenty eleven I think it was when they won it with Dirk and Jay Kidd whenever Lebron was in his first year in Miami. I think it was twenty eleven. So you know, it's not as if you know, it's not as if it's just I mean, I don't know what it was. I mean, it lacks storylines. It just didn't do much for me, and I was kind of surprised to see that that was
the reaction from a lot of people. Usually, whenever you hear people complaining about, man, this championship matchup sucks, or this NBA Finals matchup sucks, the college football playoff pairing suck, it could just be people complaining because people loved to bitch. However, sometimes there's some legitimacy to it, and then you see some start to really go against the grain, right they want
to play Devil's advocate, And I never really saw anybody doing that. I've not heard anybody try to tell try to take a different approach to viewing what the NBA Finals were. But overall it was pretty pretty boring, and seeing the Celtics celebrate, you know, I don't want to get back into it
now because it's just not worth it and it's uncomfortable. But Jason Tatum might be one of the more uncomfortable, awkward, corny guys I've ever seen in sports as far as knowing, Hey, you just accomplish something big, you need to give a very very clever sound bite that you know could go viral,
could be remembered forever. And instead he just seemed very uncomfortable, very forced, and copied off of a bunch of other people who have said things after a big moment, Angel Reese, Kanye West, and Kevin Garnett. That's a trio I didn't expect to see Jason Tatum copy off of, but that's what he decided to do. And I do think he's a really likable guy. I mean, I don't think he comes off as like a jerk
or as you know. I mean, he's a good player too. It just to me it started to seem really obvious that he was uncomfortable whenever he was being asked about the NBA Finals MVP, which of course he's the best player on that team for the most part. I mean, I think Jay I think Jaylen Brown has in the conversation. But you know, I would say if you anonymously pulled every NBA GM in the league, I think you'd end up getting more that would prefer having a guy like Tatum than having Brown.
But maybe I'm wrong. Both are great, by the way, but it just seemed really uncomfortable whenever he was asked about And this is before it all came to an end and he didn't win the NBA Finals MVP, which
everybody knew wasn't gona win it once Jaylen Brown started dominating. But it just seemed, you know, for him to then list off all the when you say you don't care, you're not worried about it, and then list every single really good player that somehow didn't win the NBA Finals MVP when they were the best player on their team, Like that's really an admission that you do care and you actually care, you know, in a major way. So anyways, all right, this this story is wild to me. It is
something I never thought I would see. Right, there's a lot of stories over the years when it comes to sports and really just anything that you're you're thinking, man, no way, who would have ever thought this would happen? And that is that's what this situation is. And that's Bill Belichick's new girlfriend. So TMZ broke the story that Bill Belichick, at seventy two years old, is now dating a twenty four year old woman who is a former
cheerleader. And her name is Jordan Hudson. And for those that are you know, unable to do that quick math, that's a forty eight year age gap between Belichick and his new lady. And apparently these two met in twenty twenty one, when he was six. I guess he would be at that point, you know, three years ago, he'd be sixty nine and she'd be twenty one. That even sounds weirder. I mean, she's still in her twenties. He goes back to the sixties. But still, I mean
he met he could be his granddaughter. Absolutely she could. I mean, it's insane. So they met on a flight from Boston to Florida, and one of her former cheerleading teammates told TMZ that the two bonded over bonded over a philosophy project the student athlete had been working on. So she describes herself his girlfriend as a philosopher and glamorous girl scout. That's her Instagram bio, which I guess is now private. It was, but she won a national
cheerleading championship while studying at Bridgewater State in Massachusetts. And yeah, before they parted ways. After the flight, Belichick reportedly autographed her textbook she had it. I mean, that's just that just sounds creepy, but I guess it's her textbook for her philosophy project that she was working on. But in addition to his signature, he listed the years of his Super Bowl wins and wrote, Jordan, thanks for giving me a course in logic, save travels.
According to a photo of the message, which is which an X classmate of Hudson shared with So this is how it became public. This was really private, I guess. But an ex teammate of hers is the one who broke the story to TMZ. So the two then exchanged numbers and have stayed in touch, chatting about her schoolwork and x'es and o's of her cheerleading routines. The couple apparently began dating the next year, after Belichick's sixteen year relationship with
his previous partner, Linda Holiday ended. I mean. It also says that although they've largely kept their relationship private, she did attend some of Belichick's games in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three, and was spotted with him in New Orleans in January of twenty twenty three and again in August. He was also seen in the back row of a let's see here. Yeah, it says that she eh, I'm trying to skim through this here. Yeah,
he was seen in the back row of a cheerleading competition. And this can't be real, right, I mean, every detail about this true or not, is creepy and disturbing. Yeah, whether I don't care if it's legal, I don't care if it's consensual. The fact that there is a forty eight age different, eight year age gap, it's crazy. You're signing you know, your name with your super Bowl championships, and it's like a way
of flirting. That doesn't surprise me because I think you know, when you're when you're the status of someone like Bill Belichick, I can totally see you being very you know, unaware that that's mean, you know, hey, if you're probably winked at or whatever after he signed it kind of thing like to me, that just seems like wow, a little like a little aggressive, a little a little weird like. But then again, you know, he's somebody that is I mean, he's arguably the best coach of all time
when it comes to rings championships in the NFL. So you know, he's a larger than life figure. Therefore, maybe that's not that Maybe that's not not that out of character for someone of that like Bill Belichick doesn't do normal stuff. He's not you know what I mean, Like he's been so far removed from any level of normal life because he's you know, he's Bill Belichick.
But man like forty eight years to say, if you're the female, you're twenty four years old, you're with somebody who's you know, in the twilight of their career. And I hate to say life. You don't know how long somebody might live. But I mean he's seventy two. Yeah, I mean, so there. I'm trying to think of other celebrity couples, and it's really not Sometime sometimes Dane Cook's got a big age gap with his
does he Sometimes sometimes it's not celebrity couples. It's more so a celebrity that found a young, attractive companion because they're rich and famous, you know what I'm saying. Like, for example, Nicholas Cage is with a woman whose name is Rico Shibata and there's a thirty one year age gap. Well, I don't mean maybe she's a celebrity in her own right, But that's not
a celebrity couple. That's just again like this is probably think about how common this is for people who aren't famous, you know what I'm saying, Like, if you just got a ton of money. Dwyane Wade and Gabrielle Union, there's a ten year age difference there, that's not that crazy. I mean, that's not that's not that uncommon. Let's see who else. Here's a really crazy one. Al Pacino and Nora Alfalla fifty four year difference because
eighty three and she's twenty nine. Yeah, I remember hearing about that one, just because you know it's al Pacino. Is she a celebrity or is she just you know, I'm not familiar with who she is. Yeah. I mean, look, everybody's got Dennis Quay, the actor. He is apparently forty years apart from his girlfriend or I guess wife. Maybe. But
if you're happy, be happy, like I'm not. I mean, I can't relate, but I feel like if it's if there's a bigger if they put it this way, it's not illegal and it's consensual, but if they're genuinely old enough to be your grandkid, or you're old enough to be their grandfather grandmother. I just there's no way I could ever understand. There's no way you could ever make it not weird to me. But again, you
know, people are you know, it's not illegal. It's just, you know, I I'm not like if I'm I'm thirty five, I'll be thirty six in a couple of weeks. If a twenty three year old and I had a conversation, I wouldn't know what to talk about. Like I'm an introvert. Therefore, I'm not somebody that's real chatty with people. I don't know, you know, I don't you know, I'm not going out on my mind. I'm not real outgoing socially, never have been some of me.
That's why I just, you know, But if I was single and I ended up on a date with somebody that was, you know, thirteen years younger than me currently, it's not that I would think that they're beneath me to where I you know, they're too immature, they're too childish to even you know, have a intellectual conversation. It's just that I don't know what we would have in common, Like I don't know what I would bring
to the conversation that you would be interested in. You know what I'm saying, like, it's it's you know, so hey, I'm sure there are plenty of people listening that are with someone that is a lot older, a lot younger than them, and they're happy, so, you know, be happy, live your life. But when you get to be that big of a when there's that big of a gap forty eight years, I mean,
that's just I don't know. I'm gonna refrain from talking much more about it because I don't want to, you know, I don't want to irritate somebody who may be in a similar situation because again I can't relate. And maybe my thoughts are you know, maybe maybe I could be proven wrong that it's not as weird as it seems, but to me, it seems really, really weird. And I'm trying to think of like my friends, maybe not even close friends, but just people that I know. I think, you
know, six seven years is not that uncommon. I know people, you know. I can think of at least one couple that I know that there's an eleven to twelve year difference, and I guess as you get older, that doesn't seem as crazy, right, Like when you get to be both fifty and forty or fifty five and forty, you know, you can probably still clearly tell someone is younger. But we're talking about a generational difference here,
Like this girl who's twenty four dating Belichick. I mean, her father's probably what I mean, maybe fifty, you know, between forty five and fifty five, like that range. I mean, I don't I mean, maybe he's older, but like Belichick's old enough to be his dad. It's just weird. And again maybe I'm just being cynical. I mean, is
she into Bill Belichick for anything other than fame and money? I mean, just because we see somebody coaching in football games for years and they show us no personality, no really redeeming quality in those settings, right, press conferences, and I mean seemingly wanting to be perceived as a jerk. I guess that doesn't tell the whole picture of one Bill Belichick, but I mean just hard for I mean, this is the ultimate like yeah, yeah, good
luck. If you want to convince people that you really thought he had a great sense of humor and he really man, you've seen this guy. He's a hunk. I mean, he's he's an old man. Bill Belichick's got his Belichick. Yeah, I mean, come on, anybody said that yet. I'm sure Vin said, I'm sure it's been said. I like you falling on it as soon as you said it, knowing it was very corny. But that's been the theme of the show today. Yeah, I mean,
I don't know. You know, there's some people that are like, yeah, good for you man, Yeah, get him Bill, and you know whatever, that's the way you see it, that's the way you see it. I'm sure you don't give it a damn about the way I think about it, But I just it's uncomfortable to me. I don't know why. And I would be more you know, again, in a world that hopefully will never happen, I would be more inclined to probably meet somebody older
than me than I was younger than me. I mean not that I you know, not that I know for sure what would happen, and again, hopefully it never ends up happening. But I just I don't find myself being someone who the younger generation would be interested in. But hopefully I'll never find out. All right, let's let's do this. Let's let's hit the text line really quickly here before we get to our next break. Five oh two six five three zero seven ninety is the L and N Federal Credit Union text
line. This text says, Nick, You've gone on a lot of trips lately, but any trips planned for the show? I feel like some of the best shows have been when you take the show to a destination. Well, usually those trips are just those trips are just you know, usually if I travel for like a you know, we went to Atlanta for the for the U OFL. Georgia Tech Game last year to start the season. That was fun. Yeah, there's usually some good stories to come with some road
trips for the show. Used to do it all the time in basketball. It was very very common during the previous you know, not the you know, pre I guess pre Kenny Payne era. But yeah, no basketball trips were taking in the last couple of years. So I don't know, maybe, uh, maybe, who knows, Maybe we take the show on a
road trip at some point, but I don't have anything planned. However, if we get details about this this cross count or I don't know where it's gonna be, I don't know what to call it, but every four years, college basketball programs are allowed to take a trip to where they can go to. I mean, Louis has been to the Bahamas, they've been to Puerto Rico, they've been to Canada. They haven't been on one since twenty
fifteen. Whenever they went to Puerto Rico. That was when that was the year they added Damian Lee and Trey Lewis in that offseason, and they chose not to take one because you can take it every four years. The next time it came around, they didn't take it for obvious reasons as to what was going on with the program, and then with mac here they never took
one. I think they probably had I think they did have one plan, but then you know, the pandemic got in the way, and then of course nothing planned with Kenny Payne. So I don't know where they're going to go. But if details come out about that where louisvill Basketball is going to make a trip, it's probably gonna be pretty tough to do logistically for the show. But if we could make it happen, they could be fun. So maybe that'll be our next next road trip. All right, quick break,
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it's not really I mean, I guess it is recruiting, right. If you're recruiting somebody in the portal, you're still recruiting them. But Louisville lost a player today from the high school ranks in the twenty twenty five class in football, and that is offensive lineman Jake Cook, who had been committed I believe since February and recently in fact, earlier today, decided to say that he was reopening his recruitment. And this is coming off of a recent visit
that you know, appeared to go really well. This is what he had to say. First, I'd like to thank God for blessing me with the ability to play this game and the opportunities I have before me. I'd also like to thank the entire Louislle staff for their time and investment in me. After a lot of prayers and conversations when I'm with my family, I've decided to reopen been my recruitment. So I could be wrong, but I believe at the time he was committed to Louisville, he was one of Louisville's top
guys in this twenty twenty five class. So he's currently I guess, depending on where you look, he's a three star. Louisville got in pretty early before he had some you know, some big offers, but he just got a big bump in one of the rankings. He's a four star and will probably end up being a four star in all of the rankings because of how
much momentum he's had throughout the summer so far. So it's a tough loss, right, I mean, you never want to lose recruits that you really you know, I'm not going to fake take it like I know much about this guy, like I'm breaking down Offensive Lineman film. But he's somebody Louisville offered early. He committed, and he was believed to be one of the best players they have in this class until you know, they lost him.
So the belief is that he's going to end up at Ohio State because again he's generated some momentum and I guess an Ohio State offer could be coming. He's from Westerville, Ohio, which makes sense that he would be an Ohio State fan. So from what I understand, that's what this has come down to, is that he's reopening his recruitment because he started to blow up a little bit and he feels like he could probably get an Ohio State offer. Maybe he already has it. I'm not totally sure, but I think two
things can be true. Yeah, it's a tough it's a tough hell to take, right. This is a guy that you know you wanted and he's now decommitted, and all expectation is that he's going to end up at Ohio State. But let me just break this to you. If Louisville ends up going head to head for recruits with Ohio State on a regular basis, they're going to lose more than they're going to win. That's just the facts.
It's Ohio State and he's from Ohio. I'm not saying that you should just be, you know, happy about it, but when these kind of things happen, it like questions on the text line on Twitter, what's going on
with Louisville football? O oh, starting to fake? Maybe something's off with Jeff brom And you can have that opinion, like, I don't think you're crazy or even out of line, but I can't give you fake energy that I don't have as far as being worried, because again, if you recruit players from Ohio and you go head to head with Ohio State for them, you will lose more than you will win. That's just how this works,
right. Louisville has, I think the formula in place to where they can be consistently competing towards the top of the ACC and maybe somehow breakthrough and find themselves in the find themselves in the College Football Playoff now that it's expanded, easier said than done, and I think a lot of it is going to be dependent upon the ACC improving to where the league could could get the benefit of the doubt in earning one of those at large spots. But the formula
that I'm referring to is recruit at a pretty good level. Right if you can recruit high school kids in your classes each year are in the range from you know, top thirty ish to top forty ish, like that's that's never
anything to brag about. Right, But if you're in that neighborhood and you're developing these players and you're keeping the ones that are turning into really good players, the guys you really like that are making an impact for you, you're keeping them around because you're having success and you have NIL and then you go out and you hit the portal. Right, I mean, this could be a kid and I'm not acting like he won't be good enough to play for
Ohio State if that's where he ends up. But there are kids out there that will go to these schools and maybe be really good. But you know what, there's eight of them, meaning there's only certain amount of snaps and reps that can go around. Therefore, you know it was cool, but you didn't. You didn't crack the top of the depth chart in a couple of years. So then you hit the portal. Then you could end up at a place like Louisville. Like, I just think that's going to be
how programs of Louisville's status really thrive. You're not going to get I guess just not realistic. Pre nil era in post anil era for programs not named Texas Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, USC, Oklahoma. I'm sure I'm leaving off some of them, you know, even Florida State.
You can throw them in there. Clemson, although debo's weird and everybody knows it now, Like those are the kind of schools that are going to continuously bring in a class that features more five stars than maybe any other player, any other you know star like fives and fours with eighty five percent of them
being five and four and the rest being three. Like that. That's just not that's just a different planet as far as recruiting, Like it's just not reasonable for any fan to expect to be recruiting at that level unless you're one of those pro doesn't mean you can't win, right, I mean you can. I mean he TCU played in the National Championship Game a couple of years
ago, right, So like it doesn't mean you can't have success. But I actually think you don't have to worry about that as much anymore because the portal now makes it to where you can go get a guy that's proven to be a really good player that you don't have to recruit out of high school and wait to see if they develop, wait to see if it was wait
to see if the hype was worthy of it. You can then go you can go get I mean, Jeff Bram is essentially put not entirely new teams on the field the last couple of years, but a lot of newcomers that fans I think should be excited about. So you know, again, both things can be true. I said that all the time. It's a bummer to see this kid decommit and likely end up going to Ohio State. That
sucks. But I can't also act like this means something's wrong with Jeff Bram and his staff, because again, you're gonna lose a lot of battles if you end up going head to head with Ryan Day in Ohio State. You just are. So I'm I'm not worried, I'm not panicked again, I'm I'm gonna try to do some tap dancing here because I don't there's no way
to say this without it sounding ridiculous. But I kind of think that high school recruiting is always going to be important, but it's not as important as it was anymore because you can have a recruiting class that flops and yeah, that's not ideal. It's a bad thing, and you will probably see some effect of that, But if you do really well in the portal, it doesn't matter as much. It sometimes may not matter at all. So again, recruiting is still going to always matter. It's going to be important.
I mean, some of the best players I mean right now Louisville football this upcoming season. I think from a defensive standpoint, there's no doubt about it as far as the guys that you feel the best about, and that is Ashton, Jelatti and Quincy Riley and Ashton. Ashton's a kid who came here and committed to Scott Saderfield and was a two star or three star and didn't have a lot of notable offers, and you know what, he was developed
and he's turned into being one of the best players in the country. He's a preseason first team All American. You know, when he committed Louisville, his offers were Dartmouth, Duke fiu in forlid Atlantic, So you know you can engen that's you know, I'm not someone who will throw out like well, Rose Smith was a two star, as if every kid that's a two star has that kind of a ceiling like those are those are very it's very rare for that to happen. But I also trust this staff Jeff bromin is
staff's ability to develop players, develop talent. And I think the portal makes it to where I don't get is, you know, it's not life or death about the high school kids as much anymore. And again I'm trying to say that without it sounding like all the hell with the high school kids. Don't even recruit them. I mean, that's not what I'm saying, but I feel like it kind of sounds like that's what I'm saying. All right, before we get to our next break here, Uh, let me let
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four four four four thousand is the number. All right, quick break, we'll come back here on the other side, keep this thing rolling along. I've got if you're a Louisville basketball fan, I've got something that can only get you more excited about the chances of this team being pretty damn good. And Pat Kelsey's first season, we'll get to that. And the I can't believe he's still in college list is wild to see how old some of these
dudes are playing college football. But hey, I'd probably be doing the same thing if I was them. Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety so I'll be consistent. I don't think experience is as valuable in sports as
much as some others do. I think it's clearly a value. I just think you know, you know, if you're mentioning one of the factors and why you feel good about your team you lead with, or maybe it's one of the first things you bring up, experience, it probably just means you don't have a whole lot of other things to mention as far as your team. Now, if you've got experience in these guys and your team has been successful, then that's a different conversation. But for what it's worth, you
know, experience is valuable. I just feel like you know, talent and you know ability is going to is going to matter more than anything coaching too. Like, you know, experience is valuable, but you know, I don't oftentimes find it to be something that's super valuable. But for those of you that do feel like it's super valuable, then you may like to hear
this. When it comes to the most experienced rosters in Power five college basketball, based on minutes per game last season, there are only nine teams more experienced than Louisville. They come in at number ten, So the most experienced team in the portal or most experienced team in college basketball via the portal. Usc number one, Xavier number two, UCLA three, Ole, Miss number
four, Washington number five, so DePaul came in at number six. They also, you know, like a lot of teams have completely rebuilt their roster with the portal, but Indiana coming in at number six, Minnesota number seven, Vandy number eight, and Louislle number nine, as I mentioned, and then Kansas is number ten, and then Kentucky is at number eleven. So you know, experience Again, I don't want to act like it is is irrelevant, but I think you can be experienced and still not be good.
In fact, you know there are and you don't see it as much anymore because now guys leave or they get the they get the nudge to leave and hit the portal. But you'd have a guy that would be you know, decent as a freshman, slightly above decent as a sophomore in a bigger role, and sometimes you would see a big jump, but then you know, sometimes you'd see the same level of jump and it's just a mediocre player,
and you well, he's gonna be a junior now. I mean, you know, you just never know, right, and sometimes it works out like There's mean, there have been plenty of players who made a huge jump heading into their sophomore year their junior year. So yeah, for what it's worth, a lot of the local teams around here. In fact, all the local local teams are in the in the mixes being some of the most experienced in college basketball. Next year, I'd like to see a list that shows
n C DOUAA tournament experience. Yeah, so I feel like that a good one could be a little more valuable when it's all said and done. And for what it's worth, you know, Louisville they're bringing it. And I think it'd be a stretch to say that this team that Louisville has this year, with Pat Kelsey's first season, has a lot of tournament experiences. If they've been battle tested, they've been in the second weekend, because that's not
the case. However, I think just being a part of a team that has consistently made it to the tournament or you know, made it last year, I think that that's valuable. I mean that shows that you have been in a culture and been you've been a you've been a contributing factor in the success of a program that has a winning culture doesn't mean, you know, the Louisville's destined to be great. But everybody on this team outside of two
players, played in the NAA tournament at one point in their career. In fact, everybody so Case and Pryor did not make the tournament last year at South Florida, but they won their league. I mean he won. I mean, there was a good story last year with USF having that monster season in year one for coach Abdul Raheem. And then also Washington didn't make the
tournament of the PAC twelve. That's where Corn Johnson came from. And then frank anselom Ivy did not make the tournament last year when he played at Georgia, but he did he was on on a Syracuse tournament team early on in his career. So yeah, I'm with you, John. I think that's more impactful than anything else. And I think even you know, it'd be great to see somebody who's been there and gone deep. But just the fact that you've been a part of a winner is you know, is valuable,
especially given the fact that you know Louisville. I mean again, it doesn't matter because everybody that was here last year's gone but these are guys that it's all new to him, and they're you know, there's probably gonna take some time for them to all for you know, for you to really see what this team could look like as far as potential. But the fact that they've all been a part of winning at some level throughout their career, most of
them even last year, I think that's a good sign. All right, let's take a look at the I can't believe he's still in college list because it actually happens to feature some local players. And let's see here is this going to do what I think it's going to do. I'm a I'm a proud customer of the athletic, and I mean that's sincerely just great work being done at the athletic. But I don't like that I get prompted to enter my password every time. But anyways, here we go. I'm in.
We can now check it out. So Cameron Rising, he is a quarterback at Utah his first season of college football twenty eighteen. I mean, that would make him twenty four years old. It's wild, it is wild. Another quarterback Oklahoma State, Alan Bowman, his first year of college football, also twenty eighteen. So His first college start came as a true freshman for
Texas Tech in September of twenty eighteen. He would then go on to start sixteen games over three years, before spending the next two seasons as a backup at Michigan and then last year he moved to Oklahoma State. We're in week two. He earned his first college start nearly three years and eventually led the Cowboys to the Big twelve championship game. It's actually a pretty cool story. A guy who you know, didn't start for three years and then gets the
nod and keeps it rolling. Dylan Gabriel. I mean, I feel like he's been in college forever. He's still back at He's at Oregon now. He's transferred from Central Florida to Oklahoma, now to Oregon. He played his first college snap in twenty nineteen, and then sure enough, no real surprise, Tyler Shuck. He's also a guy who started his college career in twenty eighteen. And I believe he's just turned twenty five, or maybe he just turned twenty six, which is crazy to think about. But you know,
here we are the other players. Let's see here. I'm trying to find guys that have some you know, some local interest here. Oh, this is a guy who was at Louisville now is not, and that is Jermaine Lolay, who if you remember, you know he was. I mean this a guy who when he was at Arizona State I think it was. Yeah, he started his career at Arizona State under HERM Edwards. He started his college career also in twenty eighteen. So this is a guy who we're talking
about six year seniors here and they're still playing in college. And I'd probably be doing the same thing if I could, because you know, why not. It's an experience that I'm sure you'll cherish forever as a college football player. And you can make money now, I mean you got to keep in mind. You got to keep in mind Jermaine Lowlay. You know he was because of his early success as a as a defensive end or defensive tackle. I mean, he's somebody that he's somebody that still is viewed as a guy
that could help you. So if you remember, he committed to Oklahoma out of the portal when he left Louisville and then flipped to Texas. So yeah, he played for the Raiders' current head coach Antonio Pierce at Long Beach Polly and then followed him to Arizona State when he was there for his first year under HERM Edwards. So I mean, imagine the road that you know, Pierce has been on to make his way to being the head coach of the
freaking Raiders. Well before that all started, he was, you know, coaching Jermaine Lola, who, by the way, is still playing college football. It's crazy. So, I mean, just because I don't recognize some of these names, doesn't necessarily mean that it's you know, doesn't necessarily mean that these guys aren't aren't you know, high level players that could really make an impact. But you know, I feel like if you if injuries are
in the way, that's one thing. You know, I'm sure that's you know, that's a lot of these guys are probably getting a six year because of an injury, to be honest with you, and that makes total sense. But you know, some of these dudes are just old dudes who don't want to, who don't want to, who don't want it to end yet. And I don't blame him, you know, if you know, if you know you're not going to the NFL, why not stay around in college and you know, ride this thing as long as you can. I'm trying
to see if there's any Indiana players on here. I don't aware of any, but one guy that came to mind. I feel like you talked about this guy a couple of months ago. Isn't there a really really old dude who's playing for like Miami or somewhere down south. Oh no, it's it's the guy who. Yeah, he doesn't fit with this because it's different. It's more like an eligibility. He was He was an MLB player, Okay, got drafted out of high school. He was a four star recruit.
He's older than you. Yeah, and he just signed with Arkansas. He's a baseball player, played in the major leagues for a few years after spending a lot of the time as a minor league player, and he walked away from baseball last year and Arkansas signed him. So yeah, it's crazy. And two, I mean there are I mean, some of this has got to be like a publicity thing. The oldest college football players ever, a running back in twenty sixteen named Joe Thomas Senior, played at fifty five years
old. I'm gonna have to look, yeah, so these these are all real small schools. But apparently, yeah, there's so the kickers. That's that's what I was forgetting. There are kickers who come over from Australia that are grown ass men, like currently Colorado and Virginia's current kicker are thirty five, four and thirty three years old. Oh my gosh, I mean they got eligibility. All right, don't go anywhere. We got another hour coming your way right here on Sports Talk seven ninety