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Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome in. It is a Tuesday, but for me it's like a Friday because this is my last show of the weekend. Then I'm out of here for a few days and I am looking forward to it. And trust me, I'm not gonna bore you with my travel plans, as I'm sure many of you don't care. But I know I'm not the only one that gets pre travel anxiety, and I haven't had it in a while, but I think it's emerging now for me because, as I've
mentioned yesterday, this is a trip that I've known was gonna happen. It's it's an important trip, I'm happy to be going and I'm looking forward to it. But since the plan was put together to make this trip, I assumed it was in July, and you know, clearly I was wrong. And I'm glad that we finally started discussing the trip, and I realized, like, why is my wife continuing to talk about this Like it's like it's tomorrow, Like we got time. We don't need to be getting things together
now. I know she's the planner and always tries to help me as a procrastinator, but then, you know, I think, I think the shock and surprise has me a little little word and I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna miss the show. It's always nice to get some time off, and this is the best time of the year to take time off, and I'm looking forward to it. But I don't know what it is. If you guys have any tips on ways to you know, not have pre travel trip
anxiety. If you know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about, right, you've probably experienced it. If not, then you probably just you know, thinking I've got issues, which you're probably right. But I think the fact that we're driving is a factor here. You've mentioned before you're not a driving type of dude for vacation with the kids, and that makes it. I mean, I'd rather fly than drive anyway, just because if I'm going somewhere that takes a long time to get there, then you
know, you save a lot of time. This trip makes no sense to fly. We were always going to drive, but we're even splitting the trip up on the way there, and I'm still thinking, like, man, I hope my kids are good, and I'm going to believe in the power of positivity and hope that they are going to be good, and we're going to have a great trip. So I'm out of here after today. And then you'll have the regular rotating guests that join us to phill Well they join
they joined the show to fill in for me. Well I'm gone, Scott Fitzgerald, and also Tony and Dave, so again you'll be in good hands, all right. It is Coffee and Company. We are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety nit coffee that is the company. Man, mister John Alden riding shotgun this morning as we take you up till six o'clock. Did I say this morning see I'm rattled, I'm off my game, I'm overthinking it. It's not morning time, geez, I haven't done that
in a long time. It's been a while. It's not morning time, it is afternoon. I don't know what it is. But thank you for correcting me. And by the way, when I say stuff like that, never feel like you can't like chime in and tell me, hey, you know you're an idiot and that's not what you said. But maybe we get some kind of like sounder that you just have ready when I say something like that, like hey, it's a you know, I say the wrong day. You know, when I, you know, get a name wrong,
which happens pretty often. Yeah, that that'll work for now. But yes, trust me anything that a big part of this brand that is this show. And even before it was called The Coffee and Company, when it was The Red Zone, self deprecation is is a big, big factor. It's a fabric within whatever you want to call this. A lot of people call it a radio show, some say programs, some say a train wreck.
But you know, we're here, all right, So this is a good time of the years I mentioned to not be around because I couldn't I couldn't get over how disinterested I was in every aspect of the NBA Finals, and it was clearly a storyline, like it was a talking point. It just didn't seem to have It didn't move the needle for a lot of people.
And typically when you hear people complaining about a National Championship game, an NBA Finals matchup, maybe even a Super Bowl matchup, which you rarely, you rarely hear about that, but the conversation will eventually shift to people that want to play devil's advocate or just take the other side just to be different, kind of go against the grain. But that never really seemed to happen here.
So you know, let me give an example. I remember whenever we got Clemson and Alabama in the National Championship game, what felt like three out of four years. I don't know if that is accurate, but it felt like for a good little stretch there, it was those two teams playing for a national championship, and you know, people claim they wanted something different. It's the same two teams. And I don't think that that's a crazy thing
to throw out there. However, if you really have no rooting interest, like if you're not a you know, if you're not a fan of any of the teams that are in it, or I guess the two teams that are playing for the championship, and you're not a hater, right, like you don't like they're not a rival or anything, then I would assume that
you'd want the two best teams playing in the college football National Championship. So again, there's been there's been complaints out there about us getting to the end of a season in a specific sport, college or pro, and everybody just seems to be kind of ho hum about it. But it usually shifts. It never did with this. I feel like everybody watched all five of these games in the finals and felt like, man, this sucks. And I
can't disagree because I kind of felt the same. Was it the Patriots and the Rams that played in the Super Bowl a few years ago and it was like the worst prop I mean it was, I mean, the Super Bowl is always going to do big numbers, but the game itself was just really,
really awful. I think it was Trey Wingo, who was still with ESPN at the time, and he did some kind of very staged, awkward, corny cringe hot take where he just started yelling about people complaining about the Super Bowl, telling him if you don't like it, don't watch it. It was so cringe and uncomfortable, which, by the way, that's exactly how I would describe Jason Tatum last night after the Boston Celtics won the NBA Championship. And I don't, you know, I don't dislike Boston, right,
I don't. There's no real hatred that I have for them, although I do oftentimes find myself more often than not rooting against them. But it's not like I hate him. There's not a player that played for him or a team they had over the years that I just really despised. So you know, I'm not I'm not bothered they want it, but I'm certainly not. You know, I literally could not find a reason to care one way or the other about what happened in the NBA Finals. But I will say
this, I'm glad it's over because I don't. I mean, I guess they're gonna have the celebration at the parade, which will be on Friday in Boston, which I do love. The greatest city in the world, Boston, And now we're gonna go to Miami for three days to celebrate winning the National or the NBA title and not stay in the city that you know, we reside in where we are employed and the fans are, We're gonna go
to Miami. Like it just seems, you know, I get it, Like a lot of people would say, hey, let's let's do a celebratory trip, let's go to let's go to Miami, like it's probably a big destination for those kind of things. But to hear about best city in the world, you know, last night, and then here that they're probably already gone, like they've probably already got on the plane, and they're probably in
Miami drinking, you know, a beverage right now on the beach. So but Jason Tatum, I think Jason Tatum is a really, really good player. I think he comes off really, really likable. I don't think he seems dirty. He doesn't seem too cocky, Like when I watch him play on the floor, I feel like he carries himself pret well. But I don't disagree with those that are claiming he might in fact be one of the
corniest players in the history of the NBA. I mean, that's an exaggeration, that's some recency biased, but you know, for him to be asked before the game about the NBA Finals MVP, for him to claim that he doesn't really care and then go on to mention all of the players that did not win NBA Finals MVP on some of their various trips to the finals. That is telling us you don't care, but actually telling us you care in a major way. And by the way, it's normal to care. I
don't. I just I don't know why it would be a problem to say, yeah, that'd be great. Obviously would be a big accomplishment. You know, I'm gonna keep trying not to let it get to me, but play the best I can. I mean, I'm not giving you the actual pr prepped message that I would, you know that he would be advised to give, but like, there's something wrong with acknowledging that you would love to
have that as part of your legacy. But there's a forced I don't really care that makes you look, makes it look like you really it's just a bad look. And then last night, I mean, the unintentionally being funny and like not like he did this. I'll let you hear it. You have to see because visually it's it's really I mean, in fact, if you are somebody that gets uncomfortable and you get like secondhand embarrassment like I do, maybe don't watch this, but here's what he had to say last night.
We did it. We did it. Maybe he's possible. God. So that was Kevin Garnett who did something similar when they won the championship, what fifteen sixteen years ago, and Tatum it just looks forced and it was like he practiced in the mirror probably every day during the NBA Finals for that moment, and it just I was talking about this series with my stepdad over the weekend, just how we hoping that the series would get extended, just because you know, if it got to a game seven, that would make
it to where people who were done and checked out would check back in, right, I would think if you're a basketball fan, an NBA fan, even to a tiny extent, But Tatum's just not comfortable in that, Like it just seems like such a force anytime he's in that spotlight. It doesn't mean he's a bad guy. I don't dislike him, but like I'm now going to think to myself, like if they ever you know, if I see somebody sharing clips of him talking to the crowd like at the parade.
I'm gonna I'm gonna scroll right past because I don't want to see it now because it's gonna make me angry. But there's a level of like uncomfortable. I don't know, like second hit embarrassment may like be a little bit of a stretch because maybe others would say, like why would anybody be embarrassed about that? He just want a national chance, He just want an NBA title, Like I get it, but it's just it's corny and it just seems
really forced and it I don't know. I just and then like last night, I don't this audio may not sound good, but this is him is they were celebrating last night. I don't know if this was at like some club or if this was if this was I don't know where this is,
but hopefully the audios is. You know, you can hear it. I know everybody who wonder what would happened if you didn't where I guess, like that's not controversial, that's not that that may not even sound like it's anything other than what you would expect someone to say in his position, but it just like you know, he probably wrote that line out and practiced it and thought, I don't know, just it's you know, that's something Kanye West said before, right, yes, yeah, and it's just still well,
okay, so I knew he quoted Kanye West. I didn't know that was what that was. So thank you for I knew that, you know, because it's not just me going out of my way to like knock on this guy, who, by the way, I feel like a always been believed to be pretty likable in the NBA as a player, but like it just
it seems very just forced and it's almost as if like he's again. I just think it comes down to him being uncomfortable and I think, you know, he's he's delivering these I guess soundbites that he thinks are going to be like legendary, and it just I don't know, it's it's it's a little much. But you know, he's a hell of a player, and uh, you know, congrats to the Celtics. He apparently yeah, he looks
like he Also he also quoted Angel Reese. This is I I said, yeah, this is after Uh, I guess this is post Let me see, is this what they're gonna say. Now that was after LSU won the national championship two years ago, and you know what they're gonna say, Now, what they're gonna say now, it's like he's so unoriginal dry. Yeah, he's just spooning other things that have been said that were like very like,
that's a very generic thing to say. It's not there's nothing wrong with saying it, like, it's not a you know, I don't think that's
a controversial thing to say. That doesn't make you unlikable, but yeah, like what they go, It's like he wanted to make sure he was ready to deliver these kind of things, and he just copied off other people and tried to, I guess, put his own, you know, literally, you go from I mean we're talking three different people that he clearly had in his back pocket that he was going to I don't want to say steal from, because he's got to. I don't think he's an idiot. He'd be
a real dummy to think that people wouldn't know that he's he's doing. I mean, in fact, I think the Kevin Garnett thing was honestly something he probably thought would be a cool look given the fact that this is the first title for the Celtics since KG one one whenever. That was two thousand and
eight, two thousand and nine. So but Angel Rees and then Kanye West, Like, I don't know it just it seems really really forced and less is more like sometimes you know, just you know, saying, man, I'm so excited, I'm so happy, and then just give us some fake tears or something like that'll I mean, I don't know. I mean, this is somebody who clearly does pay attention to what people say about him, which, by the way, I think that's one of the biggest lies in
society, that you don't care people think or say about you. I think there are levels to it. Clearly, there are some that can deal with people saying whatever about him and handle it better than others. But like this notion that you don't ever care or listen, like I don't even like I didn't even know that people thought that of me. I just think that's for the most part, a big lie, and there's nothing wrong with it. But whenever you know that, just you know, play it cool, like,
don't try to like win people over. I mean, I guess, I guess there's no harm in trying, but I think it was a failed attempt. And anytime I see any of these and the one up of Angel Reese is the first, you know, that's the first time I've seen the one that is, you know, him saying exactly what she said. And there's a chance that like maybe you know, he didn't even realize she had said it. He just you know, because that's a very generic thing to
say. I mean, that's not like, that's not real original, you know what I'm saying. But then the way he said it exactly how she said it, it just seemed a little bit forced. So again, congrats to the Celtics. Uh, now we wait for you know, now we wait for the NBA Draft, which I am a big draft guy. Then again, you know, the NBA draft this year is believed to be one of the you know, weakest drafts in the history of the sport. But don't need to do another Coffee and Company draft. Yeah, I we got
to think of some some new new thing to draft. I mean, yeah, we kind of emptied the bag last summer with a weekly draft, which was a lot of fun. Maybe we could revisit some of those because who knows, I'm sure there are people listening now that didn't listen at that time, and maybe our selections would change over time. But yeah, those that's always good stuff to do in the summer, the weekly weekly drafts. All right, So if you guys want to be a part of the show today
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we should just talk forty five the whole time. Donald Trump, Huh, yeah, could be political forty seven. I said, I'm not going to turn it into a political talk show. I mean that would be I mean that actually that would be I don't know, that would be the easiest way to to I don't know. I feel like you could really hook people in if you know what I mean, like if you just started saying outlandish things like just being completely one side or the other, like like what do they
called the radical left and the radical right? They throw the radical on the front of it, and it means this person's an unhinged Democrat or a you know, off the rocker Republican, and you know, you just I'm not gonna do that. I've occasionally kind of dip my toe in those waters, and I get a little satisfaction in reeling some people in, you know, who take the bait. But it's not worth it because it could only it could only hurt me, I think. But anyways, we'll we'll mix it
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com. All right, let me set the table for you guys today, just to give you a little bit of a rundown of what I have in store for us over these next two hours and forty minutes. There's a really interesting well, there's a list out there that the list existing should not surprise you, but just to see the age, the ages, I should say, if some of these dudes still playing college sports is wild. But there's
the annual because it's going to be an annual thing. Now. I can't believe he's still in college list, so the athletic put it together to take a look at that. Also, I can't believe I forgot to mention this yesterday. But how about Bill Belichick? How about my man Bill Belichick,
the Hoodie as Jim Rome has famously called him. Seventy two year old Bill Belichick is in a serious relationship with a twenty four year old smoke show And this is probably not that uncommon for dudes in their seventies that are rich as hell and famous. But man, just trying to, you know, be a fly on the wall as seventy two year old Bill Belichick of all people, is conversing with a twenty four year old woman. It's just something I
cannot see. What the hell would they talk about at all? I mean, look, Bill Belichick seemed more like a human being than I've ever seen him at the roast of Tom Brady. But still we're talking about, you know, showing some signs of life and being a real living human and not a robot. But just some comparisons out there as far as like, I mean, seventy two and twenty four, that's a forty eight year age gap,
folks. That's insane. And I know some people are like, well, man, good good for you, But good for you Belichick, my man. Okay. I mean, look, if that's the way you feel, that's the way you feel, I'm not afraid to say that's weird as hell. Like that is weird as hell. Also, this has become an annual thing that I love, losers of fantasy football leagues. The creativity that goes into these punishments for coming in last. There's one out there that took
place over the weekend that went viral. I want to take a look at that. And here's what we're gonna see. I mean, there's I mean, there's no reports that it's happening, but it's coming. And that is these college basketball November early December tournaments that are all gonna be about in IL and bowl games. Maybe bowl games become you know, I mean, people
still watch them, believe it or not. I was gonna say watchable, but like, people still watch bowl games even though we know that the teams you're seeing are not the teams that played in twelve games because the majority of
guys for good teams don't play anymore. But people do still watch. But they'd be even more worth watching if, in fact they were the real teams, and if NIL becomes a big factor and there's some big paydays on the line for these guys in college, even if they are going to try to make it to the NFL, I mean, even if they're out of eligibility and they know they need to train for the NFL draft, If there's a legitimate money on the line to participate in these bowl games and you can get
you know, a payment up front just for being in the game, and then if you win, there's an even bigger incentive that the winning team shares. I mean money. Look, money talks, right. I mean you'll probably still see some dudes not play, especially those that can, you know, opt out and know for sure they're going to be a first round pick.
But bowl games should be awesome, and they've just really stunk over the years because for the most part, it's a very watered down version of a team that sometimes isn't even that good, right of a seven and five bowl team that's missing five of their best players. I mean, who was it Western Kentucky last year in their bowl game? I mean it's Western Kentucky. No offense to the Hilltoppers, although it's a fraudulent school because Western Kentucky's actually
not located in Western Kentucky. It's in south central Kentucky. But anyhow, WKU. They had their quarterback, the kid who apparently transferred a few years back. I can't think of his name. He was really good, put up big numbers, but you know, he sat out of the bowl game, and he was believed to be like a seventh round pick at best, and I'm not even sure if he ended up getting drafted or not. So
they ended up putting in a guy in the who was it? I wish I had these names, not that it matters, but there was a kid from bowling and it was a walk on that was on Western Kentucky's roster, big six to six kid, and he'd already entered the portal but ended up going with the team I guess for like emergency situation to this bowl game. Well, sure enough, he was the starter, played the whole game, played his ass off, and you know, didn't pull his name out of
the portal, used that performance to end up. I don't know where he ended up, but either way, my point is this, even those level of bowl games are having guys just not play because there's no reason for them to play. They don't even have a chance of getting drafted, but they just don't want to get hurt and not be able to work out for NFL
teams. Well, if there's money on the line, that changes. And college football is already a monster, and look now that you're gonna get twelve teams in the playoff, some of those bowl games are gonna seem even less relevant. But again, if everybody's playing, or most of the guys are playing because money's involved, that's the best case scenario, I think, all right, don't go anywhere. It's coffee and company. We are fueled by
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On one of his other radio interviews, Pat Kelsey's mentioned that the team is doing a summer trip, which that makes me very excited. I don't know if there's been any details made public or if he shared them, but man, I really, really really hope that that is the case, and it's like a type of trip that fans could maybe go to. I know a lot of those take place, you know, across in another country. So I don't know anything as far as other than what you've shared with me on
the text line. But that's perfect for this group because you know, they're already on campus and they've been going through workouts over the last week or so and practicing at whatever level they're allowed to practice, which is valuable. But Louisville has not been on one of these trips in ten years, I think, or close to it. In fact, the last time Louisville went on a I guess, I guess they're always out of the country. I don't. I mean, I guess you could probably do something, you know,
in in the United States. But I feel like all the trips, and I'm not just talking about Louisville, but the you know, the out of country trips that you see college basketball programs take. They usually end up in the Bahamas or in Puerto Rico. That's where Louisville went last time. You can go across the pond to somewhere in Europe. In fact, Louisville took one in two thousand and seven. I believe it was to Canada, like
to French Canada, I believe. So don't know where they're going, but it's really really good to be good for this team to get just more reps and they'll probably be playing against competition that's not close to the level of what you'll see night in and night out when you play you know, college basketball, but just a brand new team getting extra opportunities to one compete together and
get a feel for one another. And you know, even though they're not real games, it is a game setting, not just a workout or a practice and spending time together. I mean not to be corny, but you know those kinds of trips I feel like, or where you really can get to know one another in bond and you know, conform some team camarade so very exciting. I would imagine details will be announced here soon, and that's
great for the team. You know, that doesn't mean I'm gonna, you know, go ahead and start giving expectations of what I think this team is going to do. I mean I've said since really since they added for I think Noah Waterman was probably the last edition that really made me feel like, Okay, this is a team that they can make the tournament. Are they gonna get in the tournament? I don't know, but I think they have a tournament caliber roster. And I wouldn't at all expect Pat Kelsey to shy
away from that because I think he knows. We heard enough about how difficult. It was, and I doubt that Pat Kelsey's doing or thinking anything about the previous regime here at Louisville. But he's aware of what the message was from the previous coach around here that we were impatient and it takes time, he needs us, and you know, the program was broken. I mean,
those are things he said. Well, Pat Kelsey doesn't view it that way at all, and I think when asked at the press conference, I'm paraphrasing here as far as what he would say in regards to that whole thing.
Uh, you know, he said, ready, So you know, I think they're going to be a tournament team now if they end up making these games available for people to watch, like on a stream, like fans can tune in and buy a package to watch all these games wherever they end up playing, or if you know, if they end up you know, making it to where if it's like a convenient trip and fans go, I may go if I can make it work. But yeah, I can already
see it happening. Like once we if we get to see just one game of this team on some you know stream when they're playing in I don't know, Canada or maybe in Europe somewhere. Uh, they'll they could be playing guys that have never picked up a basketball before. But just seeing this brand new team together is going to get me super excited because it's I mean, we've never been and I can only speak for myself, but I feel like
I'm not alone here. As far as the Louisville fan base, I don't think we've ever been this starved for a team to watch that gives us something good to see in, something to believe in, and I think that's what this team is. So I'm very happy to hear that that that that's in the works. Don't know any details, but I'm sure they'll be out before too long. So thank you for sharing that on the text line. All right, five with two five seven is the number if you want to jump
in and give us a call. And we will now go to the phone lines and welcome in. David. David, what's happening? Brother? Doing well? Nick? Always loved the show, and by the way, I am as excited as you are. And I don't know the it's the feeling around Louisville basketball has been so tepid. As much as I loved Kenny Payne, I just can't believe that the things started an end as the way it did. But I have a question that's completely different, and educate me a
little bit. It was the coach at the Yukon. Is his name Danny Hurley, Yes, Danny Hurley. His brother's Bobby Hurley, who coaches Arizona State. Okay, here's here is my question. You know, I love watch listening to talk radio and of course sports talk television, and Chris Brussard is you know, one of these mouthpieces, and I know it's all opinion, but he made the comment that he thought Hurley was making a mistake by not taking the Lakers job simply because it's like, this is the pinnacle of
success in the sport of basketball. Why wouldn't you take the LA Lakers job, especially with college basketball being as down as it is and the NBA being as popular as it is. And then the very next day I see and hear that the NBA ratings for the finals were in the absolute toilets. And I'd love to know, really how many people watch the NBA A you know, being a being a native Loiavillion and a college basketball guy, I just can't believe that as far as I'm concerned he has a chance to do something
unprecedented since John Wooden. You know, he's I know, he's a Northeastern guy, and why would you want to go baby slit Lebron? I mean, hell, Lebron coaches the damn team anyway. So I just want to see what your thoughts were, right of sart Man, if the NCAA tournament is as bad as you think it is, and maybe he isn't watching the same thing I am, and for him to push the NBA to to this, you know, to the apex of of men's basketball, I you know, I just had a hard time with it, but love the show.
Just love to know. Thank you, Thanks David. I appreciate It's a good question. So Chris Broussard, you know, he's an NBA guy, and I disagree with everything that he said in regards to why would you want to stay in college basketball when the NBA is on top? Now? The NBA gets way more attention nationally than college basketball, and I don't really see that ever changing because the NBA is I mean, it's it's one of the
it's the second most followed professional sport in America. Now there's a humongous gap between number one and number two. But the NBA is is. I mean, look, pro sports dominate the the you know, the national coverage they just do. Now college football is not far behind. In fact, college football has more viewership when games matter than most NBA games. So here's my thoughts on the NBA, David, I think the NBA has done a really good job and I don't even know if it was strategic, but here's what's
happened. There's so much drama in the NBA with players jumping from team to team forming super teams. Players have all of the power, right they will sign a lucrative, long term deal, but you know what it'll include after a year or two, a player option to opt out and then decide what you want to do. And even if you don't leave your team, you have the ability to. So there's a lot of anticipation about where's this guy gonna go? You know, what's he gonna do. In fact, it's
already happening. Now there's NBA players that are apparently, you know, unhappy with the offer that their team's gonna give them, so they're gonna opt out, and you know, see what else is out there. So because the NBA has talked about it all times, it's that helps it in popularity.
They do a really good job of marketing their superstars. I think some of it's a little bit easier on their end because there's not as many players in the NBA and you can see them like they're you know what you're looking at right, football a little different baseball. I don't know how to help them, but as far as people locking in to consume the product that is the
NBA, it's not what you think it is. Now, maybe we can pull some numbers because I'm actually interested now to hear or to see what these numbers are after your call there, David. But the NBA is talked about a lot a lot more in college basketball, no doubt, But I think
that makes people. Right when you turn on ESPN, I feel like twenty out of the twenty four hours of the day, there's one of those round table shows, right, you've got part of the interruption, you've got first Take, you've got whatever show they have on now in the mornings, and they're usually talking about the NFL and the NBA, and with the NBA, you know they have a relationship. ESPN is in bed with the NBA. They are partners, so they are incentivized to continue to talk about the NBA
and all. In my opinion, what that does, David is it creates a false sense of actual viewership because you can keep like we consume content differently now than we did five, ten, twenty years ago. Right, you can know everything you need to know about the NBA numbers. You can actually probably spit some facts to people that make it look like you've got League pass and you're watching all the games. You can do that without watching a second of it, like you just can. You can do it with highlights.
So viewership of a game when they play eighty two of them, it's just not as important. Like I just found this number here. ABC drew non point point six two million viewers in the Game four of the Finals. That's the second lowest NBA Finals game on record, behind only the Pandemic Playoffs.
Which really, that was just a weird time in the world where despite not having anything to do because we were locked down, nobody watched sports at least not to the level that they well, they didn't watch at the level that they used to watch it at prior to the pandemic, and now, I mean viewership is crazy for all these other sports. So you know, I think that's an absurd take by Chris Brossard. But what it comes down to is like, actually, to give you some more absurdity to what he said,
in college basketball, you are the man. Yeah, players are gonna make money. And there could be the rare exception to where a college basketball player might make more money than his coach. That would be a very unusual circumstance for that to happen. But players come and go in the college game. If you stick around and you build a dynasty, which by the way, Dan Hurley's already done, you're made man. And some people don't care about that, right, they don't do it for themselves. But in the
NBA, how many good teams in the NBA. You can be a casual NBA fan or maybe like slightly above a casual NBA fan, and there could be a team that is, you know, four or five seed in the East or West, and you not know who their coaches. He could walk into your home, you wouldn't know who he is. Because it's not about coaches in the NBA, they're expendable. It's quite clear, there's so much more money invested in these superstar players to where if there's a riff and things
aren't going well, what do you think they're going to do? Trade their franchise player they've invested a ton of money in, or go find a new coach. That's why, like I think Dan Hurley, Look, I thought he was going to go to the Lakers, just because I'm thinking what else can he what else does he want to prove at the college game? And he's always wanted to be in the NBA, but maybe he wanted to be
in the NBA when the NBA was different. Now, the NBA is hiring dudes who've never coached before, because it's about managing egos, personality, and relatability. That's more than anything. NBA players now seem to really gravitate towards dudes. They can relate to guys who are who've been in their shoes as a player, maybe not even that long ago. Like Mosula just won an
NBA title. What's Joe Missoula's coaching resume as far as accomplishments and you know, experience, He was like a D two assistant coach, got a chance to join the the Celtic staff courtesy of Brad Stevens as an assistant. Well, Emi Udoku, he got all horned up, became a perv. Joe Mossoula gets to sit in the first chair and now he's an NBA champion. He didn't grind his way up to get to the top. And that's what the NBA's turned into. And I don't think, you know, maybe it's
just my opinion. I don't think it's good for the league. Like I actually prefer when the league had coaches that I feel like, Okay, I know this guy, this coach is going to play this style or whatever.
Like I just I don't know, to me, that's you know, maybe that's me just being a basketball purist, But no, I think the NBA, I'm not gonna act like they're in trouble because if you've seen the number that's been put out there as far as the new media rights deal that they're about to sign with a couple of different networks, like they're going to be rolling in the dough. The NBA's got plenty of money. But I think it's a very It's unique is a league because you can be a super fan,
you can be keeping up with everything going on. You can continuously being you can continuously talk about whatever is going on in the NBA on your podcast or on social media or at the water cooler at work. But you can do all that without watching a single second of the game. And I guess you could do that this day and age with technology and other leagues, but
you don't see it as often. You know why, because people want to sit in front of their TV for hours and watch football because football is king. And with college basketball regular season viewership is not strong. But the event that is March Madness, the NCAA Tournament, it's one of the best events in sports. In fact, I think it's the best. I'm a little biased on my end, but that's why people that's why the viewership of that
is insane. Because people have their brackets, you get a potential Cinderella story. It's win or go home for everybody that's there. So I'm always gonna side with college basketball. But I think if you're a coach and you really, you know, want to feel important, you want to feel like you've got a real say so in the trajectory of who you know, the program
you're coaching. I think college will be a better route than the NBA, because you know it can you for didn't somebody got canned halfway into their first year in the NBA this year. I think, wasn't that the guy who was coaching the Bucks or some Bucks coach? Yeah? So all right, thank you for the call, David, appreciate it. Gave us a whole segment there. Good stuff. All right, we'll keep it rolling along. It's coffee and company. We are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk
seven ninety. I love this song. I feel like it's the first time you played this. I think I've played a couple times really for other people, though. Love it. When did it come out? Does it show you? I don't know if you have the two thousand and seven. Yeah, so I was as soon as soon as this song started playing. As soon as you started playing the song, I thought to myself, man, I haven't heard this in a while. And then I instantly went to you
know what, it's probably really old. Like I'm thinking this song is like five or six years old, and then you know it's not. It's seventeen years old. And that's very sad for me, but still good. It's timeless. Good stuff. I mean this is you were young when this song came out. Oh yeah, it was seven ten years old. Good stuff,
all right. So, with very little time left here in the three o'clock hour, this is something that I thought was interesting that I feel like a lot of people will have some thoughts on and that is the worst behavior you can have as a patron a customer at a restaurant. So there is a new survey here where they asked one thousand Americans about the restaurant customer service behaviors they find the most unacceptable. So I think I think there's really two
sides to get feedback on this. One is the people who work in the service industry and also just people who are bothered, you know, because let's be real, you could be at dinner at any place and if there's a table next to you that's like obnoxious and you know, rude or whatever like it. Can you know, I'm sure you've been to a restaurant where you were near someone that was kind of impacting your experience at said restaurant. Hopefully
nothing crazy. But anyways, the number, let's start with number ten and work our way up here. Fifty seven percent mentioned flirting with the staff. I don't see that very often. Yeah, I haven't seen him much either, And when I do, it's I mean, I'm not going to mention any names of any establishments, but like I actually find that to be uncomfortable anyway. Like when I go to a place with my dad for some beers and some wings, and this place happens to be, you know, where
the waitresses. You know, there's no there's no waiters, only waitresses, and they their colors orange and they all wear like a certain outfit. You think everybody knows where I'm talking about. Like, I don't want you to sit next to my dad and start flirting with him, because it makes me very uncomfortable because I can tell he's uncomfortable, Like we're not there to get dinner and you know, check out hot babes. We're there to you know,
have dinner, like father and son. It just it's very uncomfortable for me. So when I do see guys flirting with waitresses, for the most part, what I've seen, it's usually pretty you know, harmless, and it's almost like a give and take and you know they're working on a good tip. I would say this says occupy a table for extended period of time during busy hours. I have no problem with that. I mean, if you're there and you want to stay there and you're giving them business, I
think you can stay there. I mean as long as you want, as long as they're open, right, as long as you're as long as you're still you know, partaking in. Like I'm thinking, if you're there to watch a game and you've already ordered food, and you know you've had a few beers, and like, if you're there to wait it out and watch the rest of the game, you don't want to get up and leave the table. I'd say that's pretty understandable. This one is leave a mess at
the table. I mean that happens. I don't think that's a big deal. This one says bring outside food or drinks into a restaurant. All right, let me I need your thoughts on this one, John, meaning you, I'll give you an example. You go to eat someplace at a sit down restaurant and your kids are picky eaters, so you bring their happy meal with them. Yeah, I'd be embarrassed to do that. I was embarrassed as a kid with my parents would be like, oh, just we'll get
you some Wendy's or something you can bring it in. I never wanted to do that, thank you. I've never seen it become an issue, but I just have when I see other people doing that, I'm like, man, I would like to me it just it's rude, I feel like, and it's just it's embarrassing. I feel like as well, Yeah, so this says snap their fingers to get the waiters attention. Yeah, don't do that. You know people still do that. I feel like that's maybe from
the nineties or something. I I have a friend and she is not rude, but she just sometimes lacks self awareness and she'll raise her hand at restaurants. She's also a teacher, so I guess that's just it's programmed in her. And I'm like, put your hand down, you're embarrassing us. Stay past the restaurant's closing time. Yeah that's pretty rude, right, I mean, because they don't want to kick you out, but they're also pissed that you're still there. Of course. Yeah, of course, debate menu prices
with the staff, and that's an old person thing it is. But also what people rarely realize is that the person taking your order, has no say so, no ability at all to change the price or decide what a price is, you know, And even if you're sending them to go talk to their manager, it's still like something like you know it just the price is what it is at a place like that, And if you got to if you got a hassle about I mean, look, sometimes if there's hidden fees
and whatnot, that's one thing. But if the restaurant lists prices and you know what it is when you order it, like, don't get it if it's too expensive, you don't like the price. This is one that my wife and I have argued about, not as much lately, but we used to argue about it. Allowing your children to roam freely. This is number two on the list, So we don't. We don't let that happen. There is one restaurant we go to that it were kind of regulars, and
we don't let them roam. But like they'll be you know, near, like they'll they'll stand up near the table for a minute or something like that. But I've always had the fear that people will see me, my kids in my family at a restaurant and think like, wow, these kids are poorly behaved. I mean it's not as if they're throwing food at people, but like if they're just roaming around getting in people's way. You got people carrying plates of food in some places you go. You got people coming out
of the kitchen with six meals on each arm. Right, So you don't want your kids roaming around. And I used to be really strict about that, Not as much anymore because my kids are getting getting a little bit older. But you even if you have kids who don't have kids, I'm sure you've been to a place where that's like, that's it's an issue, like people just letting their kids run around and places chuck e cheese exactly. And the last one here say they won't pay for a dish but they ate it.
Like you can't do that, Like that's that's stealing, right if you ate the entire meal and then you claim you didn't like it after the fact, you still have to pay for it. Yeah, that's that's also an old person. It's theft is the right shouldn't have to pay for this? Yeah I didn't. I wasn't satisfied. Well, then you shouldn't have made it clearly you were satisfied enough to shove it down your throat. Give me
your debit card bum all right, we're against it. I'm sorry for going so long here, she said, m M