We're feeling good. Weekend is upon us Father's Day this weekend? Are you kid me me? That's right? That's snuck up. Happy early Father's Day. Thank you. It's still the dad of dad. It's still relative. So I'm gonna ask dads to chime in here, and you guys can call in at some point or text in whatever you want to do. And I don't want to make it dominate the show. But if we do make it
dominate the show, who cares. It's a Friday. We're feeling good, it is Father's Day, and i'd say a good chunk infect the majority. It's not, you know, I would hope. I like to think we have female listeners, which I know that we do, but I don't know, you know, I don't know how you know what our percentages are male, female and whatever you want to identify as. But regardless if you're a dad or not, you probably have a dad or had a dad if he
hasn't passed away, so like you probably have a father figure. So if we want to make this a Father's Day Friday, we can certainly do it. But my daughter's eight, my son is just turned four, and Father's Day is a holiday. That really sneaks up on me because it's just like I mean, and when I think of Father's Day, I still at times don't even really think of like the fact that I'm a father. I think of my dad, my stepfather, and you know, I unfortunately don't have
any grandparents left. But nonetheless, like it's kind of like a sneaky surprise type of holiday because Sunday, you know, I'm gonna probably do a lot of the same things I typically do on a Sunday, but you know, you know it's my day right with my kids, and their mother is going to remind them, you know, to really really love on Dad because it's Father's Day. So I'm curious when you get older does that change, right, Cause, like my kids aren't at the age where they're going to go
buy me gifts. You know, they don't have money their young children, and they don't have a calendar to where they know Father's Days coming up. I better go make plans for Dad. But my wife does a good job. So I'm just curious, like when you get older, And I guess my dad could answer this. You know's he's my father and we celebrated Father's Day every year. Is he thinking like, hmm, I wonder what Nick and his sister Emily are gonna get me for Father's Day, you know,
because we've got we've got you know, we've got plans. But it's like a selfless holiday, right, like I never think, you know, I don't. I don't. I didn't become a father so I could have this day to celebrate, right, Yeah, but you know, it's it's it's a lot of fun. It's busy, but it's it's a lot of fun. So yeah, it's a Father's Day Friday. Here Coffee and Company,
Philbeth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. My name is Nick Coffee. The company man, mister John Alden is still on vacation, which means we've got Austin Montgomery once again. It's right back in the saddle for having been a great week and we didn't have any real issue and I'm not even chalking the start of the show up as an issue. It's just the the button bar disappeared, which you didn't say it, I'll say it. That means somebody
was in there messing with stuff like that's how that happens. Yeah, something that I'm not used to and usually I'm I got in here a little bit early, and usually the same kind of clicks over. But like I said, we got we got to talking, and you know, just a couple of guys like us ramble and you know, and now has gone by so and before you know it, I'm like, oh, I don't even have
show open. But don't say a word. If in fact the last person that logged into that computer is who I think it is, that's all I needed enough. Yep. So the reason I ask that is because if this type of situation were to happen with that person, it would have been called nine one one. I mean, it would have been crazy. So anyways, we're ready to rock and roll again. It's a Friday. We've got
a couple of guests can and join us coming up at four o'clock. We're going to talk to the one, the only, mister Jeff Greer, which I got to figure out, how are we going to like, how am I going to introduce Jeff Greer? Because I think still most people know Jeff around here because he was somebody covering Louisville basketball for a long time during some of the better years the program has had. And I still I mean, it's impossible for me to bring Jeff on and not talk hoops with him because
that's you know, he's a hoophead like myself. But he now works for the brass at Soccer Holdings, which of course is the ownership group of Racing Louisville in Louisville City FC. And we we had Jeff on for a little while there and then I went on vacation and we kind of got off track. But we're bringing him on at four o'clock because there's a big game tomorrow
with Racing Louisville taking on a team that isn't real. So I don't know if you if you're familiar with with with the the in again, I'm doing a disservice to our partners here by not remembering the name of the league they play them, but I know that it is the National Women's Soccer League. I think it is the n w SL, right the prof I mean, it's it's truly the only major pro sports franchise we have here in Louisville,
right, Racing Louisville right because lu CITYFC. They're kicking ass once again, that's what they do, but they're in that lower level like right below MLS. So this is the you know, the women's version of the MLS, and we've got some momentum for racing lou And they play a team tomorrow that is really good. I think they're actually the defending champs. Yeah, they're
the ragining champs. The game is going to be on national TV. It isn't noon tomorrow, and you're going to hear it tomorrow on our sister station right here, ten eighty. If you want to listen on the radio, i'd encourage you to go out because they're taking on yeah, the NWSL champions. Gotham FC. Oh, Gotham's not a real city. No, it's
not. I mean, like people know that such a cool name though, yeah, but it's not real, Like it's fraud, Like you know, you can call yourself Gotham, but like that's Batman man, like, yeah, it's not. It's not the same thing. So, like, I mean, I want to go to in New York. Yeah, they are New York, New Jersey there, but they call them Gotham Gotham FC. But it's still like Gotham's not real. Okay, yeah, can you even
do that? I mean they're doing it, but I want to go to the game tomorrow at noon and just yell at those fans and let them know they're frauds, because again, it's not a real like. That's not a like. Gotham's not a real place. That's like if we did Derby City Racing or if we were Derby City Racing FC or Derby City. But no, no, no, Derby City is actually better because Derby City is not claiming that it's an act like Gotham's from Batman. Let's be real here,
I mean, did it come from anything else? I no, I only know of Gotham from Batman. I know, and that's the city that you know Batman, you know, the whole series, movies, all that took place. Unless I'm forgetting something. But again, they can they can have their championship from last year, which they do, and they can have fun with it. But to me, it doesn't count because it's not real. Gotham's not real kind of like. And this actually reminds me of this.
I sent this to Jeff gre earlier, Like, Western Kentucky. Do you realize this austin Western Kentucky. Wk U is not in Western Kentucky. No, it's in south central south Central, which took me back to this vibe check where I you know, I had to. I had to call them out, what's your connection in Western you from out there? I'm from Boreenya. Does it bother you that Western Kentucky University is actually not in Western Kentucky. It's more in central Kentucky. It is south central Kentucky, but not
Western. No, So it's like fraudulent school. I mean, you've got to call people out for their nonsense. And that's what's happening tomorrow with Gotham because they're coming to town. They're they're reigning champs. It's gonna be on national TV. But they're gonna get a beat down. They don't know what's coming for them tomorrow when Racing Louisville gets a hold of them. So again, we'll talk to Jeff coming up here at four o'clock and I got a
few different things I wanted it to start with. But before we do that, I do want to remind you we are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety and if you have not signed up to become a member of the Thornton's Freshman Awards program, you should because you're gonna save money at the gas pump, you could take advantage of all the perks that come with it.
And we certainly appreciate our friends over there at Thornton. So I'm not sure if anybody really cares about the portal when it doesn't relate to their team. And I get it if you're somebody that really is only interested in the portal, if it's players you're losing to the portal, or if it is
players that your team is pursuing in the portal. And you know, I'm kind of in the same boat, however, as somebody who loves college basketball, and I try to keep up with you know, where the big names end up that kind of stuff, because we're now at a point where when you are looking at off season projections, these off season rankings that we've referenced, it used to just be who you brought back on your own team, and I guess who you brought in from the freshman class, right, I
mean, Kentucky would have a down year, right, they'd underachieve under Caliperi. Not often, Let's be real, they were pretty good. But me let me give you an example in twenty thirteen when louisll win the National Championship. Kentucky that year had a really rough year. They didn't make the tournament, they lost to Robert Morrison the NIIT, and then the next year they ended up being preseason I think like number one or number two because they once
again brought in a loaded freshman class. So now when we look at teams heading into the upcoming season, I feel like the majority of what you're factoring in as far as rankings and predictions expectations, it's based off of what you do in the portal. So because of that, I still follow along with, you know, the top names that are in the portal, regardless of where they're going, because where they end up it could be a big deal. So Coleman Hawkins a name we talked about for quite a bit, I
think it was a week ago. Today we found out that he is in fact not going to visit Louisville. And you know, I took some backlash from you know, the toxic world that is Twitter for stating that Louisville is the one who backed off here. They decided to say, you know,
respectfully, I'm sure thanks, but no thanks. We've decided to kind of stay put where we are and I have no clue that's a good decision or a bad decision, right, like maybe Coleman Hawkins, who by the way, has now committed to Kansas State. Maybe it turns out to where you think, like, damn the guys that we decided to prioritize and not bring in Coleman Hawkins, that was a bad idea. No clue. We'll have
to wait and see if that all plays out. But for better or for worse, I can tell you the reason he didn't visit Louisville is because Louisville decided no longer to recruit him. And it could have been money, it could have been And in fact, I know you know what I was told, which I believe, is that they really like the chemistry they have as of now. And I don't mean because they've played together for years, clearly
it's a brand new team. But what I mean is that they knew by bringing Colemanhawkins, it was going to leave one, maybe two players in a position to where they'd have to consider do I want to bail? Because you know, I don't have a lot of time left. I don't have you know, I got one year, maybe and I know now with them bringing this guy in, I'm either going to be sharing minutes or I'm going to be on the bench. And some would say, well, that's lame.
You should want to compete. Totally get it, but these you know, these kids got to do it's best for themselves. So I believe, just my opinion, the root of Louisville not wanting to bring in Colemanhawkins for a visit is because they did not want to lose anybody on this team, and by doing that bringing in Hawkins, it could have led to them losing one. I think they would have lost one, they might have lost two. So I'm not saying it's the right decision, wrong decision, or whatever.
But Coleman Hawkins good player. Now going to Kansas State, and the reports are this, and I I don't tend to believe the number that you typically see that's attached to these players, and it's just because I think it's exaggerated. It makes the school look good that they have resources that can pay you, and it makes the player look good because hey, that means that by definition, if somebody's paying you north of two million, which is what the
report is for Colemenhawkins. Then that's what you're worth. So it's a mutually beneficial situation because it means you can pay if you're the school. And again, the player looks good because he's worth that. So what I've seen today is a little bit of a surprise for me. And that's the reaction here. And it's not because people are, you know, saying that Kansas State's going to be the favorite in the Big Twelve. It's not that people are
claiming that they're about to win the national championship. But I feel like Kansas State is kind of getting mocked for how much money they were able to pay for their starting lineup, essentially from the portal. And I'm gonna try to get the you know. And again, even if we had a breakdown from somebody that showed what every player that Kansas State bought was making, I'm not sure if I'd believe it, because again, I think all these numbers are
extremely exaggerated. But from our own Kevin Sweeney, I can say our own because he's been with us for just about every week of the calendar year talking college basketball. Here's what he reported earlier. Kansas State has pushed the chips in with one of the most aggressive, nil driven rosters Bill built the spring, capped by winning Coleman Hawkins in the sweepstakes, a deal that is north
of two million dollars. So this is what's out there. The Wildcats meaning Kansas State, welcomed in yugana On Yinsu and a Corra Corps who is the kid from Samford who I really really liked, and I'm glad Louis Will ended up with Casein Pryor. But they've got three players that the total number for these guys, and again one of them is Ugo and ugan On Yinsu Ugo, which again, if you're paying north of a million dollar for that guy, money must just be unlimited or or it's all a lie and nobody's paying
that. But anyways, the belief and I say belief because I think these guys that cover college basketball, like Kevin Sweeney, like Joe Tipton, like Rob Dowster, and I don't see the you know, the the top tier of college basketball's coverage, right, that's Goodman, that's I would say Dowster, that's Rostein. Who I'm missing Austin who who do you feel like is in the is in the is in the you know, the top end of college basketball reporting, Rostein Goodman. I mean, do we throw Andy Katz
in there? Maybe? Yeah, what I was about to say, what's Andy Katz been up to? I mean, to be honest with you, Trilly is Is is the guy that's as plugged in as anybody, but it's it just still doesn't feel natural to like cite him. He just came out. Yeah, Like, imagine Sports Center crediting a report to Trilli Donovan. They wouldn't do it. Yeah, So I can't even think of who like ESPN's lead guy is. It's Jeff Bordello. It's Jeff Worzello. And I
like Jeff, but he's just not as big of a name. So, like, those are the guys that I don't see putting numbers next to players' names, because I don't even think they believe what they're told. But still, like we live in this world where apparently four million dollars was paid for those three players, a guy from Sanford, Ugo who was not even in like I mean he I mean, could you call him? Could you call
him a serviceable? I mean, you know, you just happen to play in a big time program team that yeah, I mean Louisville was was was in on him, but they weren't going to pay what he was asking, and they decided to go in a different direction, in fact, from what he was asking. And that's when they took Big Frank from Georgia Frank anselom Ivy. But I mean Ugo three point six points, four point eight rebounds
a game last year and he played twenty minutes a game nineteen. Excuse me, Like, if you play half the game and that is your stat line, you've got some real balls on you to ask for a million dollars to transfer and play somewhere. And apparently he did, and we're supposed to believe that Kansas State was willing to pay it. But the reason I'll bring all this up it's not jealousy, because again, you know, I don't even think that, like, I mean, they let Arthur Columba walk, who's
transferring from Kansas State. I think he's better than everybody they just brought in. I think Arthur Klum is a better player than Colmon Hawkins. Both are good. But my point is this, there's now been some real like shade thrown at Kansas State from not only fans, but like Kevin Sweeney, who
I should you know. I don't know if he's throwing shade, but this is the first time I've really seen the nil money that is believed to be spent on a team turn into pressure in regards to expectations, right like they're some and I don't, I don't. I wish I could give you specific names, and I don't want to put words in anybody's mouth, but it just seems as if the vibe as well. Damn, Kansas State paid this much money for these guys. That's a big price tag. They better win,
And I'm just curious. Is that what it's going to turn into? Like is that what college sports is going to turn into? To where you hear number, you believe it if it's true or not, and you're not just thinking, Hey, we better win because our coach is on the hot seat, we better win. We missed the tournament two years in a row. Is it going to also turn into we better win because a lot of
money was paid for these guys? It's in What makes it so odd is that, as we speak now, it's not money from the school, it's
not money from fans. I mean, I guess it can be like it's money from like a rich donor, and I guess if your collective is really able to raise a ton of money, like the five of two circle has done a great job at that, but you don't know what your money's going towards, right, Like if you're paying fifty bucks a month for a subscription to the nil circle, to the you know, five x two circle, which is the Lowsll's nil collective, Like is that I mean you don't.
I mean, I'm sure they're sharing with you certain things, like what they're doing to help out teams, but like it's really just a big sham to be honest with you. So I don't know. I in a way, I kind of hope that we do end up at some point knowing, and we're not entitle to know because it's private matter. Like I don't I wouldn't
want my financial situation being public for a variety of reasons. But if we do ever get full transparency as far as okay, now that the schools are going to be paying these guys, and they're going to pay them twenty to twenty two million a year, and by the way, that That's another question that I'll have to wait and see if we get the real answer, if
there's transparency there. But twenty two million is the cap as far as what a school can pay an entire athletic department when it comes to student athletes. Are we going to get full transparency as far as what the percentages are as far as eighty percents go into football and then the rest let everybody everything. I mean, again, those are questions that we don't know the answer to just yet. But I kind of like the thought of knowing that school.
You know, basketball programs, football programs are also going to be evaluated on not just winning and losing, but like did you overpay? Did you get a return on your investment? I just think it adds a different element to how we how we talk and cover college sports. Like, for example, I have no clue if it's true or not. I have no reason to think it's a lie. But Texas A and M during the Jimbo Fisher era,
you heard the noise Austin, they had the bag. They were going to be willing to pay anything and everything, and they'll pay whatever it takes Texas money. Yeah, they and they stunk like they weren't good, and that's why Jimbo got fired. But if there was, if the perception wasn't that they were building rosters with unlimited money, would there would there have been as much pressure to get rid of him. Probably so because they were not
just like kind of bad, they were really bad. I mean, I think the last two years he was there, they mean, they were they weren't even competitive at times. So I don't know. Just every now and then it hits me how different college sports has become. And I try at times to kind of not really focus on that because I'm someone that naturally fears change and the thought of college sports and not being what it's always been to
me would make me sad. So I'm gonna, you know, I choose to believe I'm going to adapt and adjust and always love it because I can't imagine not. But I don't know. Just seeing all the reaction from the Coleman Hawkins news today, it just made me, you know, more aware, and I guess just a reminder overall that this is pro sports now, folks, and every aspect, this is professional sports. And I don't say
that to say we're screwed. It's the end because you know, for me, again, I'm gonna I'm gonna support it and watch it and consume it until it no longer exists. And I hope that that never happens. But there are some that I think found a level of wholesomeness, if that's a word, purity, playing for the name on the front, not the back, that if they're reminded, if it's in their face, that this was all a transactional situation, they're going to be turned off by it. I
don't know how many people are like that. I don't know if that's widespread or if that's just maybe the older generation, but that is something to monitor. And here's what I'll tell you. If you're somebody that's in that space, meaning you don't like the thought of these guys going to your school because they're paid, You don't like the thought of them doing it only because they know where that's where the money's at. And you know, I don't agree,
but you know, everybody's entitled to their opinion. You can have your own belief on it. But I'll just tell you this, it's kind of been that way for a while. I mean, maybe not to this extent. I don't think everybody was getting paid, but clearly guys were getting impermissible benefits as they call it, to go to certain schools for generations. Right go back to like the seventies. I bet somebody's dad got a pickup truck
to for their kid to go to a certain school. If you've seen the movie Blue Chips, that wasn't just a script movie, a script from a writer for the film like that was kind of what everybody knew what was going on. So if you are somebody that's turned off by it, I get it, you know, I don't agree, but just know that when you were worshiping college sports twenty years ago, there was still a level of it being a transactional situation. The issue now is that it's right in your face.
And I still don't know why you care. But if you do, you know you do. Everybody's wired differently. They see things that they view it differently. But I'd say, as of right now, I mean, this will be the year where if you are still trying to live in that world where this is amateur it's for the love of the game, it's about these kids are students first. I mean, I think this will be the year where that completely is just a race from your brain because it's going to
be right in your face. Well, you talked about, you know, just with with the change in college sports just a couple of years ago, when the transfer portal really became like a big thing, even before nil was really in your face, you saw these kids really kind of showing their allegiances towards the coaches, and when the coaches would leave and get transferred somewhere else and always that's what really kind of kickstarted the rule that how come they can
go coach immediately, But if we leave and that's not the original coach we committed to, we have to sit out a year or you got to do that? Or how come they get paid all these big this big money and why they get paid all this and they can and they can get fired like Kenny Payne. Kenny Payne will make more money this year to not coach Louisville basketball than Pat Kelsey's going to make to coach loivel basketball. Crazy, say it out loud. It doesn't even seem possible, but it's it's just how
it works. So you know, I agree with every Like we had a caller earlier this week who made a point about how this is ruined college athletics and it sucks and it's terrible, and I agree that it's a big change. And the days of guys maybe playing in your program for many years and being lifers that you remember forever, like that's probably dead and gone unless you know you're in that upper tier, which is that you're succeeding in a major
way. You're YUCONN right now. Yeah, exactly. Like the best case scenario if you'd ever have that is dudes who are on your team that are really good, that don't translate to the NBA, you're having success and the NIL money is there because then they wouldn't leave, Like they're going to stay in college for four years maybe five. Heck, some guys are playing six seven years now, So like that's the best case scenario. But I agree, like it's going to be different and some of the best like, for
example, I don't think Louisville Basket. I don't know this for sure, and we'll never know, but I have a hard time believing Louisville's last national championship in twenty thirteen would have happened if things were the way they are now, meaning back then, like if guys could, like Russ would have been gone. And Russ is one of the best players that's ever played here. It's a legend, and he was about to leave when they're when he was
gonna have to sit out. So, you know, I hear all the frustration and worry that like college sports will never feel the same for fans. I totally get it. But for about five years now this has been a talking point, right like, should you know, should players be allowed to transfer whenever? How do they not get any of the how do they not get even a teeny tiny crumb from the billions of dollars the NCAA generates from
the NCAA tournament. And it's really two conversations. Yeah, it's it's gonna be different, and I'm sure there will be some that will turned off. They'll be turned off by it, and they'll just change it in a major way, and that's unfortunate. However, there's really, like, I don't I've never heard anybody claim that these students should have to sit out because they transfer to that they shouldn't be allowed to make money from people who want to
give them money. And I think what it comes down to is that there's a fear of change, right, Like you can claim it's going to be awful, but you're saying it's going to be awful compared to the way you got used to it for generations. I mean, college athletics never changed as far as what like the imateur is a model from the NSABA has been the same for no joke, seventy years. So it's not that it's terrible. It's just so different than what you're used to, and that's what bothers you.
But it doesn't mean that it's not right. Like nobody's ever told me why a player shouldn't be able to transfer wherever they want, whenever they want, and be able to play Why white white, you know, because it makes it harder for a coach because fans won't be able to have a guy around for five years, Like just because you know, we get so sucked up in being a fan, because that's at the end of the day, we're all fanatics, right, and that leads to a level of emotion kind
of overtaking you to where you you don't really think totally rationally. But a player in college sports, there's no reason why they would ever need to sit out if I'm in the band at EKU and I transferred to be in the pet band at Wku. They'd never make me sit out, why would they? But in sports they did it because they wanted they were looking out for the competitive product, and that was their inconsistency. That was where they contradicted
themselves. This was clearly professional sports. There were clearly rules that prohibited players from doing what they wanted to do. And if that's the case, you know what that means. It's pro sports their employees. So the only I guess counter that comes up every now and then, which is true, and it kind of at times makes me just, you know, want to side with those that say we should have these rules in place where players shouldn't be
able to be paid and they shouldn't be able to transfer. And that's this making you go play, right, Like, if you're that good, you don't have to go to college and play. You can go the G League, you can go overseas. It's like, because they're not forcing you to do it. I guess in a way, you could say, well,
if you don't want to, you don't have to. But that's also a dangerous line to kind of toe, given the fact that if you did make it to where it was inconvenient for every great player coming out of high school, then the NBA would actually have a legitimate farm system because they wouldn't want to go to college. So I don't know, I've always, I guess, had my blinders on, thinking like, no matter what happens, no matter what's done, college sports is going to be something I love forever,
and I'm going to embrace it regardless of the changes that are coming. But for some reason, today it was like one of those days where it hit me like wait a second, like now this is pro sports. It is all right, quick break, We'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing rolling along. It's coffee and company. We are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. That's that's right, coffee and
company rolling along here on a Friday afternoon, a very disgusting friday. And I say that because it's just so humid, and uh, I hate the humidity. I do I'd rather I mean, I don't know about you, Austin, I'm a sweaty guy. Myself. I don't like the hot weather. You live in Arizona forever, so I'm sure you used to hot weather. Yeah, but I mean like I would take still hate it, give me snow over the heat index that we're about to get here, because it's
just never been a fan of the humidity, the stickiness. And you've even said it on the show before. You don't even like being places that are hot. I just I just like you. I look around and I'm like, why is everyone outside? Why would you choose to be out in this you know, disgusting, disgusting heat unless you're like right by a pool, which I was earlier. I just would stay pull up in the backyard. Ice was really good, maybe had a little marg nice. It was a
real yeah yeah yeah, frozen on the rocks. It was on the I have one of those little I have one of those little stainless steel like alls that you freeze. Oh okay, and uh you so like it's like an ice ball, right, just like an ice ball, but it's not really ice. Yeah. Yeah, No, it's just like a little stainless steel ball and it's, uh, it's pretty clutch if you're gonna be out and again, it's it's not it's not as if it's a thousand degrees outside.
But this is a day where I feel like the heat index is a real reminder of what it feels like because it could be the same temperature, but if the humidity's not crazy, it's still gonna be hot. Yeah, but not you know, not just like thick and disgusting. When I say thick, I mean the air quality. Yeah, I mean I got a sickness for the thickness in a different way. But I don't want the thick air, you know what I mean. I don't want the thick air. No,
it's not that kind of thick that makes me uncomfortable. My worst the worst thing I hate about it is getting in your car after it's been there, like just been in the heat all day, and I don't it just might be a little bit different for me. I have all leather interior, so like it's just it's, yeah, a little sick brag, little peanut butter, a little peanut butter inside outside jelly shout out the project Pa. But like it's it's it's ridiculous. It's so much easier, especially you know
you said you're a sweaty guy yourself. I'm a bigger, heftier guy like you. It's so easier for me to warm up than cool off. Like you could just go inside and then just sit in front of a fan for god knows how long, and then you're still you walk away from it's still not satisfied. But I thrown a couple of coats and put on a blanket
when I'm freezing cold. I'm good. So what what parts of the country are mostly known for having very very hot temperature, But everybody says, oh, it's a dry heat, which I assume means no no humidity, like Texas, Arizona, maybe because Mexico. So you you lived in you lived in Arizona, Arizona, baby, And is that like, is that like the desert Arizona, Arizona where it snows right? So yeah, southern Arizona in my lifetime, it's snowed there three times. So for the most part,
it was very hot, right, very very very hot. So I mean, compare it to heat here is it? I mean I've been to Arizona once and it was Phoenix, which I feel like is the desert, Like I actually have been to Phoenix a couple of times. I've been to Vegas a few times. I actually think Phoenix was hotter than Vegas when I was, so you've been there during like the summer or the warm months. So I mean, I remember the first time I went to Phoenix is about
ten years ago, and I landed. Of course, big time change, so I left in the morning, but it was even It was really early when I landed there in Phoenix, and it was a it was a direct flight, so I remember knowing I was going in in it was August. It was really hot, and I knew to be prepared for heat. But everybody said, oh, it's a dry heat. It's dry heat, it's
not that bad. And I remember walking from the rental car checkout enterprise, and I probably walked one hundred yards to get to the car from the you know, from where I was maybe maybe not in that, maybe eighty yards. And I remember thinking like, Okay, well, I now need a bath or a shower because I've walked you know, a few minutes at most, and I went from being comfortable to where I'm soaking wet in every part of my body. And I remember thinking like, what does a dry heat
mean? Because I'm wet and this is disgusting. I don't like hot temperature, you know, extremely hot temperature and under any circumstances. But you know,
and then I'm into Vegas where you can't even go outside. Yeah, I mean, like it like it's just like, I don't know, it's just a I think it's just a myth to get the East Coasters on the west side of the country to where they won't be afraid of the heat because we complain about how hot it is here at times, and over there it's like fifteen degrees hotter, and yet they act like, oh, it's not as bad though, because it's dry, and like, what the hell's that
mean? Well, I guess, like, well, let me tell you this. When it's like one hundred and ten degrees there or one hundred degrees in Arizona, or like it's straight on, that's that's heat from the sun. Like there is no like thick humidity through it. That's just like literally the sun beaming down or just a scorching area of the country, so like
it is literally like an oven. And it's like we're and I haven't seen it here too much, but you know, like when you look out you kind of see like the waves like little ripples like mirages kind of like that. That's what Arizona was all the time looking out my way. You get used to it, I guess, Oh yeah, I was used to it. I was. I was used to it. It took me a while
to get used to the cold here. Like I just feel like if it was a hunt, if that temperature that you just described was to happen here today, like in my home or not in my home, but you know where I live, I feel like there's no way my air conditioning would work. Yeah, you know what I mean. I had to blast it does. Like does AC work there effectively? Yeah? It does, it does.
It's just it's a it's a little bit easier to get used to, rather than what they call like the thickness and the wetness of the humidity here. Like you get back in your car, turn on the AC or you should be good like immediately here I have to wait till the AC kicks on rolling for a couple of minutes to kind of just get unsticky. But when it's hot there, it's it's hot. I still even after living here for eleven years and now ten years now, I still don't know which is worse
because I really do not like the humidity. But like over there, I mean it was it was I like to give my other hometown props in this sense. It's pretty hot there too, so you go there, if it's one hundred degrees that's straight from the sun. Well it works out well for for us tomorrow because I think it's going to be pretty sticky tomorrow too.
And my daughter who plays in the Miracle League shout out to the Miracle League special Needs Baseball League, which you guys hear me talk about all the time. It's it's awesome, tomorrow's our last game. I can't believe how quickly
the wow, the season went by. But given out awards and trophies and stuff, no, I mean they do enough throughout the season two where it's like, you know, it's it's I still can't, you know, get over how much they go above and beyond for these for these special needs not just children, but you can also you can also participate if you're an adult as well. But they put their name on this. They've got a big
video board where they've got their picture up there. The announcers, the announcer, you know, they walk up music the announcer calls out their name. Now up to bad and you know it's Maya Coffee and all Maya scores are run and it's just so it's just so freezing. Yeah, it's great. But she plays tomorrow at nine am, which is the first time we've had a game that early, which makes me, you know, happy to know that it's not going to be you know, it's not going to be that
crazy. And here I am complaining about, you know, how how sticky and hot it is, but it's like it's not even ninety degrees right now. It's just a little bit under that, and tomorrow the high is ninety but it's gonna be sunny. So once we finish up our our baseball game, we're probably just going to head to the pool and hang out. And that's the way to do it. You go, a family has pool or
you got to a pool. So we don't have a pool, but my mother and stepfather have a very very nice pool set up in ground and it's it's you know, they've they've been they've been very nice to us to let us have all of our kids birthday parties there. Yeah, and it's kind of an o. Well, I feel like it's an open invite thing. We kind of just show up whenever we want. But like, I don't know, like maybe I should ask, like, hey, you know, I do try to give Yeah, I do try to give him a heads
up if we are coming. But yeah, I mean it's it's we're very lucky to have open policy at Mom and Dads. Yeah, but you know, like you can only you know, I don't know, they've never told us like not take so much. Yeah, they've never told us not to. They've never they've never said, you know, hey, you know, just so you know the next couple of weeks, but you don't want you
here because they would never do that. But I don't know. Now you've got me thinking, probably nice to give them a warning because you know, bringing the family over, you kind of got to be mentally prepared for that. Love for them to death or not. But like, let me take a couple of minutes to decompress what's going on. Maybe give me enough to make a lie or something. That's what I liked if it was just me
the wife, I mean, I think you'd be fine. But I also know that if there's ever like a day where they're kind of not into hosting. They got stuff going on, like they prefer to kind of have a chill day. Yeah, once my kids get there, it's all off because they just get so excited to see grandkids. Like that's you can take it. When you have kids and they've got grandparents who you know, love being
around them and love really embracing the grandparent role. First of all, it's awesome to see and it'll melt you hard, but also like it can help you out because you know they can quit. Put it this way, even if my mom, my dad, my stepdad did not want to, like and you know, have a day where they're doing grandparents stuff. Once the kids are in front of them and they asked, they're not gonna say no, right, you know what I mean, Like they're not gonna tell them
no, you can't. No, I don't want to go play baseball with you. No, I don't want to let you the tractor at the house. Like it's just you know, we shouldn't have to take advantage of that. But you know, you didn't use your kids as a cheat code every now and there exactly exactly. All right, let's get to a quick break. We will come back on the other side wrap up at three o'clock hour.
Don't forget coming up at four o'clock. We're gonna talk to our man, mister Jeff Greer, and I believe at four thirty we're gonna bring in doctor Eric McElroy pro have physical therapy to join us, and I'm curious to get his thoughts on the news over the last couple of days in regards to the UFC, I know the Connor McGregor fight got changed because of an injury,
you know, Mike Tyson. I know that fight's been rescheduled with one of the Paul brothers, but there's some people that still believe that that will never end up happening because of Mike Tyson's situation. So we are loaded the rest of the way and towards the end of the show in the five o'clock we're gonna have some real fun because Austin and I are going to be drafting
TV dads. Let's go for the three round TV dad draft, which I have a feeling that you're not going to be stealing picks for me, and I'm not going to be stealing picks down you know, I'm looking at my I've been looking at my big board board here, and I think, I know, I know we're gonna have different ones, gonna be some, gonna be some surprises, good stuff. All right, stick with us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Now back to coffee and company fueled by Thornton's
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Nobody's forcing these college kids to go and play. Therefore, nobody had to do anything to rock the boat. You're right. They could have kept it as is and had that stance. Well, if you don't like the way college athletics is set up, if you don't like our amateurism model, then you don't have to be a part of it. You can go to the G League. You can go get a job. You can be a regular student, you can you know, you can go play overseas. But that
was their stance forever. And what happened is a lawsuit took place, and that's what that's why now the schools are having to pay money to previous athletes who clearly, i mean, let's be real here, we can we can acknowledge that nobody was forcing them to play, right, nobody told them they had to do it. They weren't forced to do it. Again, that's
quite clear. And there are many, many, many, many, many many student athletes across the country that were not exploited because the school didn't profit a ton of money from them. There are some exceptions, right, Like clearly when you've got the marketing juggernaut that is Tim Tebow at Florida, Lamar Jackson at Louisville, I mean, maybe even Anthony Davis at Kentucky for basketball, Like there's no way to really pinpoint the exact amount of money that was
generated for that school because of that person playing there. But like there's there's brand value there, so like all that's true. However, if you look at it and just see the NCUBLEA, there's an event called the NCAA tournament that they've been profiting an insane amount of money on every year. I mean it's a billion dollars. The NCAA wouldn't exist without the NTABAA tournament because what most people don't realize is that they don't make any money on football. The
ESPN owns the College Football Playoff, the NTABA does not. NCAA doesn't own any of these bowl games. The TV networks do. So it's still is just it's just it's it all that money being generated and the people who actually work and participate and perform the entertainment, the talent, the workers that are involved in the NCAA tournament did not get a single thing. And yeah, you can say, well, but they got a free education, they got you know, they got a room and board, they got a stipend that's
from the school. The nc DOUBLEA itself profited an insane amount of money and they didn't pay the people who really put on the event and or part of it. And again, like I'm not even trying to convince you that that we should be paying players or we should not. I'm just like that's not normal. Like even if even when I wanted to live in the world to
where they shouldn't change anything. I just it's impossible to look at the amount of money generated from the NCAA tournament and really just the money that the NCAA makes every year annually, and Mark Emmert's getting his two million dollar bonuses to go on top of his insanely lucrative salary, and yet the people who are playing the sport don't get any They don't get a crumb let alone a piece of the pie. Like that just is not that's that's illegal, which is
what the courts determined, which is why we're in this situation now. So if you want to blame somebody, it really comes down to blaming the nc DOUABLEA for not getting ahead of this and figuring out some kind of a system to where there was some level of profit sharing from the nc DOUBLEA to where it's not you know, you're not having to get into the nil world and you're not paying players based off of performance. It's just a stipend essentially,
that is from the NCUBLEA itself. All right, two hours left, stick with us right here. It's coffee and Company on a Friday, filbouth Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety