It's time for Coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day, Now Here's Nick Coffee. In the last week or so, it has really really hit me that we got still three months before college football gets here. I mean not fully three months, and when you get to mid August it kind of feels like it's here. But man, I just saw the holiday weekend slate of games and I can't wait. It's going to be along, you know, three months roughly before we get there. But this
is what we're going to get in the holiday weekend. We've got Clemson against Georgia at noon, followed by Miami at Florida three point thirty, Notre Dame at Texas A and m at seven thirty, and then on Sunday USC versus LASHU and that game is going to be played in Vegas. And again, there's all kinds of big games, but I'm in fact everything, every matchup that I just mentioned is going to be on ABC. So I mean, you know, there'll be other really good games, but I would imagine those
are probably the big, the big matchup to kick off the season. So the first game is actually actually never mind what I'm looking at here is from the SEC's website, so they're not going to mention games on other networks. But I know there's another game across the pond that's going to actually get us kicked off. I can't think of who it is that plays, but yeah, two months in three weeks, I guess roughly, yeah, and we'll be there. And we talked about it last week. Maybe it was a
week before. I don't remember. I get my dates mixed up. But with Louisville schedule, this is the first time since two thousand and eight, I think it is since, that they're going to open up the season on
a Saturday against a non Power five team. Now that's a little misleading because on the holiday weekend they've sometimes played on that Sunday, which actually I think works out good because you're not competing with other I mean, there's rarely many games at all on that day and you kind of have a chance to even
potentially have a standalone game. But I do have a little bit of fomo here because I'm going to be super excited to see Louisville kick it off on that Saturday, August thirty first against Austin p because you know, it's our first chance to see Jeff Brahm in year two. And then the next week they play Jacksonville State, which will be there. There's Week two opponent that'll
be a three thirty kick at LNN Federal Credit Union Stadium. But I do like having a meaningful game in the first couple of weeks really the opener, Yeah, just because I like, I don't know, I like, I want to be thrown right into the fire, not like when you played Bama to kick off the season in twenty eighteen, but I mean, like just to kind of see where you stand. Right Like Louisville was in a dog
fight last year in the opener against Georgia Tech. Looked like they were going to get blown out at halftime, and sure enough, they came out and really dominated the second half themselves and won without much trouble. And I think we all knew that Georgia Tech wasn't going to be an elite team, but you were playing an ACC team, and at least it gave you some level
of where you were, right. I mean, it's hard to do that in college football, right, Like, well, hey, we played this team competitively and their rank, so that means you know, it's just you know, there's it's impossible in college football specifically to really you know, go off that like for example, it you know, actually Holvie was a good example last year, right, they were you know, they were ten and two team in the regular season, but their loss in acc play, the
only loss they had in conference play was to Pittsburgh, who had their worst season in the Patnrduzierra. So you really never know. But yeah, I'm sure when we get to August and we're impatiently waiting for that kickoff on the thirty first, I'm not going to care who it's against. I'm going to
just be excited to see this team in action. And there is something to be said, especially in the portal era, when you have so many newcomers from other programs that have transferred in that you have games like this to where you you should be able to you know, kind of get your teeth, you know, cut your teeth a little bit, get acclimated, right, I don't want to say shake off some rust, but get you know,
kind of find a groove a little bit. And the one downside of these games is if you end up playing an Austin p or a Jacksonville State closer than you know, you thought you would. It'll make you worry, and maybe it is because you've got real problems, but it could just be, you know, the human element of sports, and that is playing to the level of your competition, regardless of how much you really mentally lock in and say, look, we got to we got to play this opponent like we're
playing Kirby Smart and Georgia. It's impossible because again, the human element is a powerful thing. But anyways, yeah, we uh, we got a few months to go. And that makes me makes me said, hopefully these summer months fly by. And I mean it when I said, I know summer is most of everyone's favorite season. I feel like, well maybe some people like the spring and fall, but like summer. You know, summer's you know, schools out for the summer, people take their vacations in the
summer. You usually get good weather in the summer. But one of the reasons I don't like summer as much as others is because when it comes to the sports that I really care about that I'm you know that I at times feel like they're my religion. They're not going on right, Like I can't get into baseball in the NBA. I mean, it'll end here soon and even now I can't really get into this postseason. So yeah, I can't wait for football to get here. I'm trying to think about it too much.
Also, this probably don't affect you, but maybe a couple of people like myself an other video game playing guys out there. The EA Sports College Football Game is finally coming back, and that's in July. For the last ten or so years, it's been one of the more popular games, at least among people at my generation because they love the college football was different than Madden, but EA Sports of course, and the nil the name, image
and likeness stuff that went on back you know during the mid teens. I feel about different than to not have it. Well, it's finally made its way back, and you said it comes out in July. It comes out in July, and that's given everybody kind of like a half taste of college but and they can finally they can finally play it. Virtually everyone likes going on there and like taking a small school, a trashy school and like making them powerhouses. Yeah, you feel like you're you know, you're the head.
You know, you walk around your everyday life. Yeah, actually thinking you're a head coach. You wore the head coach and they're they're what. I'm not punching the clock here in my day job. I got a program to worry about. I got guys that are in the portal. I gotta figure it out, like you can kind of get lost in it, which I think it could be a lot of fun. I'm not a gamer, but obviously it was about to ask. But but I but when I did play video games as a kid or even as a teenager, I always played
sports games. Actually I played tomb Raider, which I loved, Deep Cut Crash Bandicoot you remember that. Oh yes, those were the two games I played that weren't sports. Other than that, I played NBA Live, not two K, because I don't think two K existed whenever I was the game live days. And then you know, NBA gam of course was great, but that was when I had my second genesis. But yeah, Madden, I never really got into a whole lot. But college football that was the
game. And I know why people are this excited that it's coming back. I feel like when it's released, like Sports Twitter, it's all anybody's gonna talk about right like it's gonna be everywhere. Yep. I was wondering if you've been seeing any of that already. Oh yeah, already, like me hyping me ready to sit my starting quarterback after throwing the first interception on the first game or whatnot against Bamba. The Internet is a powerful thing, and
at times it's it reminds us just how toxic society is. I mean, it's I always ask myself when it comes to the Internet, did you know, did these people that really make a fool of themselves on the Internet and expose it to the world. Did they exist before the Internet? And they
did, It's just they didn't have a platform to really show it. But what I'm getting at is there's a lot of really really funny stuff, like the collective sense of humor that certain people have within Twitter and TikTok and stuff like that. Yeah, I find I find enjoyment and amusement from that.
And I've seen so many like clips from really hardcore football movies, like coaches given the pep talk, or a coach really just getting on one of his players and the captions are like, yeah, this is me talking to my quarterback after we after we got upset and we two and it's in NCAA football, right, So I h are you? I mean again, I'm gonna really expose myself here as as somebody that not only doesn't play video games, I don't know anything about them. What is like the system that people use
now? I mean it's his next PlayStation, Xbox PlayStation, Xbox are still ruling. They're on like they're like their fifth gen or something like that. There's a PS five and then there's the Xbox one X or one at Xbox one. So those are the latest. Those are the latest, but I think they're they're due to come up and have like the newest one to come out probably like next year. And that's a that's a shame because the PlayStations
have just now widely started becoming available. Before last Christmas, they were still hard for any nobody to get their hands on. I have a PS five. I'm I'm a I'm a loyal sony guy. I've always had a PlayStation. That's where I played Crash Banded Crew growing up, and I I love that stuff so like but just like you, that's all I played was just
like sports games. Those games are perfect for my ADHD. You could get on there and knock out a game and twenty thirty minutes maybe, but some of the cooler like story games and like war game Call of Duty, I'm not good at that. Halo, Halo, not good at shooting games. First, I just never had any interest in that just wasn't my thing.
I was never really like a war freak, you know. I was never really like down to go and do all that they have, like cool games, God of War, like the New Spider Man that was that was pretty cool, but they're like story driven games, and I just don't have the patients. I just want to get on there, throw a couple of touchdowns or have a thirty point game with my little virtual character and then then get
out of there. I'm not trying to solve a mystery. I had a buddy who was really into a game called Assassin's Creed, Yes, and that kind of that kind of looked cool, but like again I'm with you, like I just don't. I'm not gonna I'm not going to give up a lot of time to get into it learn about it, and it's just never really been, never been my thing. But I had a sega that was my first ever system that I got, which I was debating what I asked.
I got it for Christmas, and I asked for a Sega but I was potentially gonna ask for a Super Nintendo went to Sega instead, and then I got a PlayStation not long after that, and then my last system was a PlayStation two, which of course is you know, now ancient, right, they're making their way back now. Now they're expensive to buy it stores at like little like those little card shops itself. They don't still like manufacturing. We're talking used right, yeah, yeah, I use Yeah, they
don't still manufacture. So I just looked at a PlayStation two came out in November of two thousand, so it's twenty four years old, which makes me feel very very old. I remember getting my first PS two because my first, my first ever one, was the original PlayStation. There's just I don't even think I got any games, but I think I got like a wrestling game, like a WWE WWF at the time. At one point PlayStation two did they all come with the ability to hardline internet? Do you know?
I think the PS two is where it started, because yeah, I ever used that feature, because that you know, there's no Wi Fi in my home growing up, we had we had dialogue. Yeah so yeah, yeah, you had to turn off, you had to make sure no one was on the phone. But but I remember when I realized you could put you could watch DVD's on your PlayStation two. And I remember as a kid thinking to myself, twelve year old Nick, well, technology will never top this.
This is this is this is the biggest advancement in technology we've ever experienced, and I'm sure nothing will top it. This is crazy. I can watch a movie on my gaming system, and you know, now things have clearly advanced much much further than that. Now they have handhelds. I have a Nintendo Switch, and Nintendo Switch is really really fun. I could still get down on some of the mark like Mario Kart. I love Mario Kart, Party games, Party games are five. You just don't fire up Assassin's
Creed. When people about Nintendo Wii, is that still around the way right, I don't think. I mean they did. They have a long shelf life it, Like I remember, it was a big thing where you can go possible to get a hold of when they first came out. I do remember that, and then they just I think people just got a hold of them, and you know, things advanced to move on and they started.
They came out with so many things. They came out with, like the Wei board or the we Fitness. It was like a little scale that you can stand on and I measured like your character. Mine was always like the little chubby, fat guy, and it told me how many days I've gone without exercise, and I just wanted to play the bowling game and it would constantly remind me of my bad health. Do you remember the first system that came out to try to compete with PlayStation two, the Nintendo GameCube. The
GameCube. I never had one of those. Not many people did because it was a piece of junk that, you know. I think people quickly realized this was a flawed product from Nintendo. But I had a buddy, my best friend of this day. He got a game Cube and he thought he was about to be, you know, the coolest kid around in the neighborhood. Was different because he was ahead, right, the PlayStation two is old
news now right, Yes, your Xbox original is old news. He had the game Cube, and man, we went over and played whatever game he had, and I could tell it was a piece of junk, tough hell for him to take. Yeah, and it you know, I guess what I see why they call it GameCube. It is an actual cube. It
was a cube. The I mean the Nintendo sixty four was was prior to this, right, yes, yeah, they tried to get too cute too quick, because they could have like the Nintendo sixty four controller was I mean classic, and then they just tried to get cute and put something new out
there because PlayStation two had come out and the Xbox was there. But yeah, it's amazing that you mentioned that because at the Nintendo what people talk about, and because the sixty four was literally right before my generation, so I never had one. I never had the Dreamcast or anything like that, but I understand like how life changing and game changing it was to you know, just kids and just the gaming industry. And then just after that, it
seemed like it fell kind of flat. They tried to go too much outside the box. Nintendo first with the with the game cube, and then the Nintendo Wii, which was really cool because they had the numb Chucks and it had like you can actually play like that. It was I guess, yeah, Like I remember the Wi a lot of people playing tennis, yeahnis and the bowling. Yeah, like there was a Mario Tennis game or something. Yeah, but like for most of them, they were like the little characters
with just like the stick body and the big old head. It just like it never materialized. They've gone up with so many next gen versions with the Xbox and the PlayStation, and the graphics are so like badass, and they've just developed, and it just seemed like Nintendo had just like the peak of it was the Nintendo sixty four. Now once again, I say, I do like the Nintendo Switch. That's really cool. I think they kind of
redeemed themselves. But what would you say? What would you say? And I guess maybe this is a tough question to answer because I'm sure like the latest is just considered the greatest. But I feel like for PlayStation, like when they gave us the PlayStation two, and again this is just my biased, of course, but like I feel like that was a big deal and it had a long shelf life and again they've they've done better since then.
But yeah, with Nintendo, I don't know, man, as much as Nintendo has has had, you know, decades of different systems and whatnot. Is anything really top the original Nintendo like that was you know, again it's clearly an early stages as far as technology, but like that was still a classic, Like you can still people still play that. Yeah, people still travel around the world, and it was really cool. When I went to New York about a year ago, they had like the Nintendo Store and they
just like every Nintendo iteration from like Kirby or Pokemon or Mario. It's just like that's gaming just walking into there and still being like a loyal PlayStation. But I just feel like that's gaming when you walked in. That's where to me, it feels, I feel like gaming started was with Nintendo. Oh sure, yeah, I think there was what was the one? There was one system prior to Nintendo, but it never I mean Nintendo's what you know took over. Was it? Was it the Sega Genesis? No? No,
no, Sega was post that? Okay? Was it? Like a I'm bad at that. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go look it up now, because again, this is something that you know, I'm sure if I just give oh my goodness Atari. Was that a system or that a game? I think I think so? Was that was just like the joystick and you can play several games right like some yeah tar Atari game system. Uh let's see here. It came out and I guess they still they still
make stuff right now, which is crazy to think. But that was again they had like the Pong and yes, Pong and what's what's the one where you shoot up at the at the at the man like you shoot up at the at the things coming? Oh, Tetris not not Tetris damn, And I can't remember, but it's it's I know exactly what you're talking about. It's like it was one of those games they were like your shoot yeah, and it was in like arcades and stuff, and we were kids. I
can't, I can't. We'll think, we'll think of it, or we'll have the text line filled with like thirty people letting us know because again we've we've just completely blanked. And that happens from time to time. That's why I like the text line. They let us know how how stupid we are for not remembering things. You know, on the fly. All right, it is Coffee and Company, that's us. We are fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety make sure you sign up to become a member of
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haven't already. All right, what do I want to get to On the other side, we'll see if there's any more updates out there as far as who the Lakers may go after, which I know a lot of you don't care, but I feel like, given that we are college basketball crazy around here, if they do try to go get another college coach, you got to keep in mind they could potentially rock some things up here in the summer because if they go get a Bill self or even in Ed Cooley, I
mean that would mean that the coaching carousel and the college landscape hasn't hasn't completely come to an end yet. And this ncaa settlement that has led to universities now being able to pay up to twenty two million dollars annually for all student athletes and former athletes being able to be compensated in some in some at some level, that has opened up I think Pandora's box here as far as you know, everybody who played college sports long ago saying hey, where's my cut?
I wasn't getting paid and we already have one massive lawsuit that's been filed. So I want to talk about that because again I think they've opened up a box here that could make it to where I mean. I mean, it's gonna be a mess. It already is a mess, but it could be even worse if you have other athletes from many decades ago saying, hey, they clearly benefited from my name, image and likeness as well. So again we're loaded the rest of the way to stick with us right here,
it's Coffee and Company field by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Just to clarify, I don't think there's any reports out there as far as you know Bill Self legitimately being a candidate for the Lakers. But as I mentioned, you would think that if their target and the guy they went all in on, Dan Hurley was the kind of coach they wanted, they would
stick with that criteria and go to the college level. I mean, the whole JJ Redick thing. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It does make sense as far as that type of hire because, as we've discussed in the last couple of days, the NBA, when they hire coaches now, they don't go get guys like Dan Hurley or even Bill Self. They go get dudes who played the games somewhat recently that NBA players can relate to and experience as an actual coach. Doesn't seem to matter a whole lot.
If you've been in the NBA, you've been a part of an organization, you understand the structure of the league. They'll let you kind of learn on the fly as far as coaching, because I think what it really comes down to is just managing egos. That kind of stuff. Balancing, you know, personnel. So I actually thought it was somewhat, you know, a somewhat of a good look for the Lakers to go in that direction, but they got turned down. So I wouldn't be shocked if they end up
taking a run at a college coach. Wouldn't shock me at all. Because the latest on the JJ Reddick stuff is that it wasn't completely made up.
But I think it was Windhorst earlier today from ESPN that said that the Lakers and JJ Redick have had like very very little contact at all, and I think the contact, and again I could be wrong here, but I'm pretty sure the way it was described is that the contact, the contact they had with one another was kind of just to talk about how it had become such a big story and they didn't really know where it had come from, which I don't know if that's true or not, but the fact that Reddick was
viewed as this guy that was for sure going to be a Lakers coach by just about everybody, and they were going after Dan Hurley that whole time.
So anyways, I'm trying to think of which coach in college basketball leaving to go to the Lakers would create the biggest not Domino effect necessarily, but it would really shake some things up. And I don't really know who that is, because let's be real, in recent years college basketball, like the Ogs have kind of phased out and moved on right, Like coach K's gone, Roy Williams is gone, Jay Wright is gone, but Tino is not gone. But he's at Saint John's. And even if the Lakers did want him,
which they won't, that wouldn't really do much for college basketball. It would just mean Saint John's is starting all over again. Now in real time, it would do a lot because there's a lot of players in the portal that ended up picking Saint John's that if they become available, that'd be a big deal. Bill Self leaving Kansas would be a big deal, But I don't like who would they get to replace him, Like I was going to
say one of his assistants, but I think Bill Self. I mean, if you look at you look at his staff, Yeah, what is a
self tree? Like? So you know a lot of the coaches that are employee that are on that staff are guys who have been former coaches before and it didn't work out, Like right now, Curtis Townsend is his top assistant, and I don't I don't know if he's ever been a head coach before, but I feel like if you just elve like that, I don't know if that would be a great look because he's not He's not a big name or anything like that. He's not somebody. I mean, again, this
is a guy that has been on Kansas's staff for twenty years. So if he was this big up and coming coach, he'd have been hired by somebody else. Doesn't mean he won't have success, Like maybe they do that Norm Roberts, that's a name that you're familiar with. Maybe you didn't even know that he was on that staff, but he coached at Saint John's and also had previously coached at He's been I feel like he's been a head coach at more than just Saint John's, but that was where he was prior to joining
the Bill Self staff. So again, I guess maybe it is a domino effect because Bill Self leaving Kansas would be a big deal. But if they went out and got I don't know, let's say they went after Brad Stevens, maybe, I mean I doubt, I mean, they may go after him. I don't think he would leave because he's right now, like the best GM in the NBA and he didn't have to do a lot of the
BS work or he was the other one in the NBA right now. Yeah, yeah, maybe that maybe that's the maybe that's the college opportunity he would he would pursue because you know, it's Kansas. Again, I still believe and I hate to say it, but that's it's my opinion, and I don't want to lie to you. I think Kentucky's the best job in college
basketball do so you know that's my opinion. However, you could certainly make the case that Kansas might be better or maybe it's one A, one B either way, so they could, you know, maybe they go after Jerome Tang who turned down who was it turned down Arkansas and then they went and got Cali Perry. I mean, you could throw it out there, but Cali Perry in Kansas, that would never happen. But maybe, you know, maybe it's Nate Oates because he's got a momentum now and he's in he
just took Bama to the Final four. So again, overall, if Kansas, Kansas is one of those programs. If we're being honest with ourselves, you know Bill self has I mean, he he's got two titles, which again I feel like he should have more because he's had really good teams. And when you look at the two championships, he has not many have ever coached college basketball at any point been able to win more than one. This is a guy who's done it and is actually still coaching right now. But
I feel like he's had a lot of teams that flamed out. I feel like he's had a lot of recruits that you know, were five stars that you know it didn't work out. He's still clearly successful and that is that, and the proof in that is when you look at the I mean Bill self has missed the tournament one time as a head coach. So like at Kansas, they've made the tournament every year since he's been there. That goes
back twenty years, so he's been there for twenty years. So you know, if they were to go hire somebody to replace him, and you know they struggle for a few years, not like Louisville did with Kenny Payne, but like Kansas has been very consistently at the top of this sport for twenty years. I'm not sure you can find a program that in twenty years time has been as consistent as Kansas. I mean again, yeah, they had some early upsets in the tournament during his early stretch there, but they won
the title a couple of years ago. They haven't made the Sweet sixteen prior to that championship in a little while. But either way, like you think that Bill self is the best coach in college basketball, still hard for me to you know right now. I mean, I have to go Hurley just because of what he's done. But outside of Hurley, I think you'd have
to start with Bill Souff. I think those two are the best coaches right now in college basketball, and both of them have a couple of national championships on their resume, which again, that alone, regardless of active or not,
that puts you an elite status. So in real time, though, because the portal exists, any move like this could be huge for I mean if they again I hate to sound like this is actually happening, but if the Lakers did go after Bill's self and he took that job, you'd have a lot of shakeup because their next hire would probably I mean Kansas is the kind of job that wouldn't just elevate somebody. They're Kansas, they would probably go hire a big name coach and maybe they get turned down a couple of
times like Kentucky did during their search. But either way, I mean, that could really shake up college basketball for next season. But we'll see, you know, I don't know where the Lakers are going to go, but if they do get a college coach, it could impact this upcoming season and really just impact college hoops overall. And the thing about the Ogs, like you said that left, like the Roy Williams and the coach K' they already
had their I mean it's not like they abruptly did it. They already had like even well I guess I guess Roy Williams kind of just did it, where coach k still had the whole retirement, of course, but they both had like they're guys in waiting. You know. It was always it was it was always going to be the people that were their close assistant coaches and who the Shire and then Davis. Yeah, even even Jay Ryo when he stepped down, he had a longtime assistant that was there for him for years.
Kyle Neptune, who had just taken a head coaching job and was there one year, did not win, and then ended up getting the Nova job because he was Jay Wright's So you know, maybe Kansas ends up doing that. But again, Bill's self doesn't really have that type of staff. I mean, I guess it could be Curtis Townsend, but I feel like if he's been there for twenty years, he doesn't want to be a head coach or you know, people just don't view him as somebody that you that you
could, you know, win at a high level with. Some guys are just better off as assistants. I mean, that's what we learned with Kenny Payne. We learned that the hard way though. All Right, So this story, I don't know if it's getting a whole lot of attention. It was from the Associated Press, that's where I saw it first, and I feel like it's a big deal because I think you're going to see more of
this and what happens, I don't know. And what I'm referring to is a lawsuit that was filed by ten former North Carolina State basketball players who were on that nineteen eighty three national championship team. So they've sued the NCAA and the Collegiate Licensing Company seeking compensation for unauthorized use of their name, image, and likeness. And this lawsuit is clearly in place because of the recent settlement.
So two point eight billion dollars in damages to former college athletes and twenty two percent of the average Power five schools revenue is what the NCUBA is going to have to pay to former athletes. So former athletes that are covered by this settlement, if they choose to opt in, which I don't know why you wouldn't, you'd be able to make money. It includes an estimated one hundred of fourteen thousand and five hundred Division one athletes. But here's what I
don't understand. If you are going to opt in to get money from this settlement as an NCAA athlete who couldn't make money through NIL because of the archaic amateurism model, you can only opt in if you're somebody who played from June fifteenth of twenty sixteen until November third of twenty twenty three. So if you are a former player from previous eras I mean, I don't again, I'm
sure maybe there's an easy answer to that. But now that they've at least admitted yeah with nil meaning name, image, and likeness, we were ripping you guys off, right, We made a ton of I mean, the NCE doublea's existence is really chalked up to the amount of money, the amount of revenue they generate from the NCAA tournament. But still there's other events tied. I mean, look, even if even if you only want to look at it from a basketball perspective, either way, the NC DOUBLEA at the
end of every year, they're profiting money. They're making a lot of money. So if you played sports that even don't generate a lot of revenue, just knowing that you did play a sport in the company that governed that sport, the NC DOUBLEA made a ton of money and you got nothing. I mean, I don't know if you're gonna win in corps, but you may have, you know, you may have somebody that would take you know, take you on and when you could follow a lawsuit like these guys did.
So I just don't understand how you can claim that you were being at Like again, like if you played in nineteen ninety nine and you were a superstar and you couldn't make any money because of the again ancient archaic amateurism model that they tried to stick with forever until Congress got involved and forced their hand,
like, how would you not be entitled to compensation? Like, I don't, I don't understand why the time frame there is athletes for because again, these guys in nineteen eighty three, you know, that was a very very highly public I mean, anytime you win a national championship year in the limelight, you're getting a lot of attention. But if you consider you know, if you consider that team specifically, I mean that was the late Jimmy v
Jim Volvano's team that was known as the Cardiac Pack. They had a you know, very close victories in the n SUAA tournament that fifty four to fifty two went over Houston on the you know, on the final seconds. That's still one of the most replayed you know clips you'll see from previous NSTUABAA tournaments, and we all know Valvano running on the court. That became an iconic
moment that you see oftentimes throughout the in stub of a tournament. So I mean, I feel like these guys probably have a good chance of getting some
money. But even if you know, I think even before you get to that point where there's either a settlement or maybe they win or I just think right now, when this starts to really become talked about more so in the news cycle, there's college athlete former college athletes, I should say, sitting around that probably don't have any money, or at least they're not, you know, not living living a great life. Maybe they're living check to check.
Maybe they're in poverty. I don't know, because they went to school and you know, they ended up not having a great career after basketball or football or whatever it is. Like, I just think there's going to be a lot of people finding a lawyer to try to sue because they want money as well. And I don't know why they would not be entitled to it if in fact, others are going to be entitled to it, Like,
it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Again, maybe there's a specific reason, but I think a can of worms was opened up here when it comes to to this recent settlement that again will allow schools and I should stop saying the word allow, because yeah, you don't have to you're allowed to pay twenty two million and last I checked, the twenty two million dollar annual bill is not something anybody on planet Earth will be looking forward to.
But if you choose not to pay and pay as much as possible, meaning as much as they let you in, as much as you can, as far as the funds you you know you have, you're gonna get left behind. So they're not making anybody pay anybody anything. But if you choose not to, you might as well just close your athletic department because you won't be able to compete at a high level. It's just not I mean, it's just not possible. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the
other side if you are just now joining us. I did start the show with a an admission, probably something I should have taken to the grave, But sometimes I like to, you know, really just open up on this show and share things to get a reacty. Not not to you know, not for shock value, but really just because you know, I'm an insecure human being and sometimes you guys can you know, make me feel even more insecure, or you can make me feel like, hey, Nick, it's
not that bad. I use you guys, really is like my therapists. But I shared something I did earlier today, and I'll save it for the five o'clock hour when we get the third hour started today, because had some good responses Austin to my situation earlier today. All right, minded people, it's right, that's absolutely what it is. So again, stick with us right here. We got a lot more to go. It's a Tuesday. It's coffee and company feel but Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety now back to
coffee and company fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Who's this some vibing? This is Gnna Gunna Gunna? You ever heard of him? I have not familiar, but I've heard the name. Shout out Gunna, Yeah, shout out gunn You Nna right, Gunna. I don't know if you've been hearing about all the the rico stuff with him and Young Thug. I don't know if you've seen some of that. Now somebody was somebody was getting a reco charge? Is it Gunna? It was it was Gunna and
Young Thug. They condolence each other. Uh oh yeah, I think that newsg is his His lawyer just got sentenced for a contempt of court and it has to spend like twenty days in jailers. I did see that the Yeah, so it's young thug or Gunn's lawyer. It's a young thug's lawyer.
Okay, so I did see that. He requested that the judge allow him to serve his his jail sentence only on weekends, because they do that for people, by the way, who aren't like, you know, you got to do some time and you still need to be you know, employed and whatnot, so they just have you come in. It's been the weekend there. Yeah, I think he's getting like ten weekends, and he requested that it be with his client with him. Yeah, and you know their boys,
they're going to go, they're going to discuss the next plans. Yeah, i'd say moving forward, I'd say, somebody who you know, lives their story straight, lives the life of a criminal, and then you know, parlays that into being very successful and famous as a hip hop artist. You know, not a surprise, You're going to have a criminal attorney, and your criminal attorney probably has a much different background and lifestyle than you.
But over time, you connect your bond and you become you become family. Yeah, I mean that's that's it's actually beautiful, beautiful thing. Why I mean becomes slime. It's a beautiful thing if you think about it. All right, before we get to the top of the hour, here shout out to n C State. I just mentioned that lawsuit that they filed from the night the nineteen eighty three championship team. Ten of the players from that title team has final lawsuit claiming, hey, you used art and you used our
name, image and likeness as well. We need to cut. So we'll see if it's successful. But how about the year NC State has had men's Final four women's Final four College World Series and their football team had nine wins and finished in the top twenty five. I mean, that's that's It's not the year at the Cardinal because that'll never happen when it comes to what Louisville was able to pull off many years ago, which some are still of the
belief that that was a deal with the devil. So ye're at the wolf Pack. Yeah, here we go. This never gets old, by the way, No, not at all. I can like I'm going back to you know, young Nick watching this on TV, and it was it was such a so yeah, shout out to the Wolfpack. It's the year of
the wolf Pack. I don't know if they're gonna win. I mean, they haven't actually won any national championship of those four, but hey, if you're there College World Series top twenty five at the end of the season, final four in both men's and women's basketball, you've had a good year. But now they have to take on this Kentucky team, which both Kentucky and in C State have not taken a loss in postseason play yet, so should
be should be a good matchup there, all right. So something else I wanted to mention really quickly here just because I found this to be rather interesting. It's also not surprising but interesting. Our buddy Zack Barnett, a football scoop who is our He doesn't know it, and I guess he does know
it, but I'm sure he doesn't take a lot of pride. And he is our official college football corresponding here, our college football insider, mister Zack Barnett, who joins us throughout the football season and here and there, which in fact, I think I'm going to have him on tomorrow. But anyways, he puts something out there at football Scoop that again, when you consider the changing landscape with the portal and anil like, nobody sticks around very long
anywhere, especially at the quarterback position in college football. But right now he put together, he put together some research, and right now, meaning going into the twenty twenty four season, there are not many programs across college football that return these four things. I guess it's these five things. Head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, special teams coach, and a multi year
starting quarterback. I mean that used to be pretty normal, right It wasn't a surprise or a shock to anyone that you brought back every coordinator and your head coach and your quarterback is returning after being a starter for you know, multiple years. So right now in the ACC, only five of the fifteen teams return those things Clemson, SMU, Stanford, Virginia and Virginia Tech. And maybe the biggest turnover is the coaches. Maybe they get another opportunity,
maybe they get a head coaching job. But I feel like quarterbacks, man, Like, right now, Louisville's got a twenty six year old quarterback, Tyler Schuck, who's been out of high school for a long time. Now, he's played it or again He's played at Texas Tech, so he's played
a lot, he's experienced, but he's never played here. So like it's you know, it's not as if everybody's got a bunch of rookies, but as far as like overall continuity, meaning your quarterback that's in play has been there, he's led to your program for two years at minimum, and you have your whole staff back. Like again, that used to be really normal. Now it's not. The Big Ten only has three schools of the eighteen
that can claim they're bringing back that type of continuity. Illinois, Nebraskan, Purdue, the sec four of the sixteen, Florida, Georgia, Ole, Miss and Texas. So, I mean, I don't know what to make of that, but I would imagine that, you know, it could be wrong, but a lot of these schools that I'm looking at, they're not
very good, you know what I mean. Like, I feel like Illinois is probably in that position because they haven't been good enough to I mean, they haven't lost an assistant coach that's a coordinator to another job, because they probably haven't done enough to warrant a real look as far as getting an opportunity to be a head coach and you know, at quarterback, I'd say, if your results are pretty mid and you know, you don't feel like there's
competition for your job, like you know, I just I wouldn't be shocked that if in five years time, maybe maybe not even that long, maybe three years time, you look back at the you know, you look, you look back at this criteria, and I would be willing to bet that a lot of the schools that are still checking that box are probably not ones that are that good. I mean, last year, I believe it was more than half, maybe closer to three fourths of the acc their quarterbacks were
guys who started at a different school. So it looks like even at the f even if I'm not the FCS, but the even at the G five level, there's actually even less schools that can claim they have that type of continuity. And again that's unfortunate for them because those guys are leaving, probably because they got a better head coaching job, or they're quarterbacks leaving because they're stepping up a level and leaving G five to go to the Power four.
Just thought that was interesting. All right, quick break, we'll come back finish strong here our third hour, the five o'clock hours. Coming up next, it's coffee and company and we are Fieldbeth Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven to ninety