It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. So I went back to woky dot com to see if they've got any new information about these severe storms that are heading our way, and nothing added since Actually they updated something at three point fifty eight. So it looks as if south of US there could be some severe thunderstorms coming in within the next next fifteen minutes or so. I guess that's
Hart County, Kentucky. I believe that south of US, so I guess it's heading this way. They did just cancel my son's baseball games, which has nothing to do with you know, they're not getting any inside info at the Oklahona Baseball League that you know, the meteorologists don't have, but when he's supposed to play it. It was about when it's expected, I guess to be really really crazy. But yeah, stay safe everyone. But anyways, when I went back to WKY, I saw a news story that I
that I that I have been distracted by. So there was an ice cream spill on the interstate this morning, so in overturned semi shut down eastbound lanes of I two sixty five near Jeffersonville. Earlier this morning, Indiana State Police Sergeant carry Holes posted on Twitter around five fifteen am that all eastbound lanes were shut down, I mean all shut down. Near the seven point six mile marker. There was a semi truck that spilled and turned over seventy thousand pounds
of ice cream across the interstate. How's this not a begger story? Imsion? They should be leading the reason, oh man, for wherever you're going. That's that's what I wonder if you would know, like is it is it packaged? Is it? It's probably not. I mean they have to keep it frozen, right, So I would imagine you may not have even known if you were sitting right in front of it when it happened, and you're now, you know, five hours late to work or something because of
it. I wouldn't I wouldn't be shocked if you didn't even know what it was. Unless it's like a semi that has like, you know, what's a big ice cream brand? Greaters? Yeah, Greater, a big Greater's, you know, semi, then you would probably guess that's what it is. I don't think they'd be carrying, you know, pizzas in there if
that's if that's the semi truck. But yeah, I've never I've never seen a semi in person, meaning like I've seen stories about them because they always make the news when it's something random that's all over the interstate that has you know, impacted traffic and whatnot. But I've never seen one in person.
But like, if it's something that's I'm just trying to you know, maybe, uh what what would be something that if if it did fall out of a truck like it could, it would be exposed to where you could clearly see what it is and it's everywhere the ice cream even if it did fall out like it would melt like you wouldn't want to put it in your car. It would make a mess. I'm just trying to like, like a submit could people probably could people come out and grab something and like be in
trouble because they're not going to mean whose property is it now? When it's all over the interstate, you know what I mean, Like, I guess it's still yours and you you just you know, you obviously wouldn't sell it anymore, but you know it's yours to decide what has done with it.
But yeah, I'm petty enough whenever I see five lanes of traffic, have you know, come to nearly a complete stop and we're moving it one mile per hour and you finally get up there and see that it's like a minor fender bender or maybe somebody in the middle lane ran out of gas or something like. Nobody's having a worse day at least not many or having work stays
than those people. So for like a moment, I feel for them, and I'm like, come on, you probably were on your phone and rear end of them, or you know, how do you not know that your gas light's on? So if I'm there and I'm late because I'm impatient, I'm a lunatic when it comes to that kind of stuff and I see that it's ice cream, Like I don't know wh I'm gonna be mad at. I guess the driver, but it's gonna feel like the most wasted you know, time ever you hear that thunder? Is that thunder? Oh oh,
it's time man. That for us to hear it in usual with headphones on, Yeah, we don't usually hear that. That was I mean, that was that was distracting and four oh eight on a on a Wednesday afternoon. Yeah, it's heading this way, so everybody be safe, all right, It is our number two here, Coffee and Company feel about Thorton's on Sports Talk seven ninety. Make sure you sign up to become a member of the
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the Thornton's Refreshment Awards Program. All right, So the latest name to add to the mix here, actually two names I guess we should add to the mix. One one is a name we've already talked about. But Coleman Hawkins is the guy we talked about earlier that Matt Orlanders now reporting that Louisville among I think it's North Carolina, Arkansas in Kansas State, they're going to be pursuing him. He's I don't know where he ranks as far as players available,
but Louisville clearly needs a big. He's a six to ten guy that can stretch the floor, knock down three point shots. It's a good rim protect or two and I don't know where Louisville stands among those schools. But sounds like Coleman Hawkins the former Illinois. Actually, what's the the the former a Liini is that is that what means he's a fighting He's a former fighting a LINI just sounds weird to say, but I guess that's what it is.
But he is. He's in the draft process. By all accounts, wants to stay in the draft, but nobody seems to think he's going to get any feedback that's going to make that decision to stay in the draft a wise decision. So I think the end of the month, actually I need to look into when that deadline is as far as win guys have to to because it's the NBA here, the not the nc douaa. I mean,
the NBA is the deadline where you've got to let them. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, maybe they do, maybe they have two deadlines, but he is a fifth year guy, so he's already entered the portal. Therefore, when he does decide, if he does decide to remove himself from the draft, I guess that's when you'd probably start scheduling visits. So that's one thing I didn't mention earlier that somebody brought up on the text line. And it's a good observation because he is so dead set on the NBA draft
and that's what he wants to do. Unless he's told that, he simply will. You know, there's no chance of getting drafted. He is somebody you may have to wait a little while. But I think Louisville could get great, oh sibor. I think they could get Let's say they get the young man who's visiting this weekend, the high school kid, well, he's going to be a college player next year. The four star from the twenty
twenty four class. That is Kahani Ruth's, So you could get him and Osabor and I think still be able to sell a big role for Coleman Hawkins. And you'll probably still have some money available, and you know it could still work. Yeah, I don't know what the deadline is because I just found him. Is it more on the NBA side or the college side. So the NBA has to have in writing that they are withdrawing from the draft by five pm Eastern Time on Sunday, June sixteenth. Oh wow, there's
a lot of time. There is there an NC DOUBLEA one? It's a good question, because, yeah, that would be and it used to be stupid to where I mean, there are one of the many one are the countless things that the NC DOUBLEA used to just have in place, a rule that just was made no sense and only made life harder and more difficult for student athletes that they exist for, right, the existence of the NC double A is to is to create you know, you know, a I don't
know, I butcher trying to be corny and like, you know, wholesome, but like they are. It only exists for student athletes college athletics. So here here's the NC DOUBLEA early entry withdrawal deadline, which is May twenty ninth. Yeah, at eleven fifty nine. So so what's the difference between the dates. I guess if you want to play overseas kind of thing, yeah, because I think you can only enter the draft one time. Yeah, I can actually be in the draft. So and it's not happening as
much now. In fact, I don't think we've talked about it on the show, but the G League ignite is ending like they're not doing that anymore because it was not a successful stint for them, and players being able to
make money changed that the need for that. I mean, it just that was that was their angle, was that hey, we can actually you know, that was why I was so stupid that this commission on College Basket there was a joke anyway, you know, I actually threatened Adam Silver, like, you know, if you don't change the rules so these guys can go right out of high school and eliminate all this shoe money cheating, we will make it a requirement for freshmen to have to sit for a year before they
play, which was such a baseless, nonsensical thing to even consider. But it also I mean I remember thinking like Adam Silver's like, okay, yeah, please do that, because what I will do is I will actually give value to the G League because nobody's going to go to college and sit for a year if they're potential NBA players. Thank you, NCAA commission, dumbasses. So I guess there's guys that did go the G league path. Like there's a kid, was it Ron Holland or did he end up going to
college? I think Ron Holland was the latest guy from last year's class that went the G League night path. There's also a foreign guy that did it, and I guess that's for them, Like they could come back to the G League and not into the draft if they don't think their draft stocks good. So I guess that's what that would exist for. But the NCAA used to make it to where you couldn't test the waters because you'd have to let
the NCAA know by a certain time what you're doing. And that deadline came before the NBA actually could give you feedback and have you invited to the combine and all that. I mean, it's it's just a I mean, it's a it's a rerun, it's a recycled opinion. But man, n s DOUBLEA over the years has done some really really stupid stuff that again not only did it not make sense, you were as almost as they existed to try
to make everything more difficult for college athletes. All right, let's see the the the other name I wanted to throw out real quick, just because it sounds as if Louisville is still in the mix here, and that is uh
Ugo Ugana and Yensu the former Kentucky big man. So Trilli Donovan says that it's it's Oklahoma or Louisville and that his price is three hundred thousand dollars, which again to me, that's just like okay, yeah, sure, maybe maybe we'll give you thirty grand buddy, Like that's not a knock on him. I just who's paying for that? Like? Who? Like when I say three hundred thousand dollars take away Ugo because like you watched him play like
I did at Kentucky. But just somebody that is that, you know, somebody that has these stats so last year at Kentucky Ugo who, by the way, let me be clear, I hope Louisville gets him. They need more depth. He's a great rimp protector. And you know you right now have no other five other than James Scott. So he averaged three point six points and four point eight rebounds last year in eighteen minutes per game. Who's paying three hundred thousand dollars for that? Who? So? I mean it's
almost like he's probably not gonna end up anywhere, if that's literal. Like that's why I refuse to believe these numbers are real. Therefore, I think it's probably a very smaller number than what's reported. And everybody just looks like
it's like they're fake. It's like an illusion that they're really big time free agents getting the bag, which, you know, whatever makes you feel better, but like, don't insult us with that, Like you're not getting three hundred thousand dollars to transfer to Louisville or Oklahoma when you played nearly twenty minutes a game last year and that is what you did. So that's not a great way for me to emphasize that. I do hope he comes to Louisville,
but I mean, like it's just insane. And if you remember last year, he hit the portal too and came back to Kentucky. You know why, because they were back chasing and he realized, oh yeah, like
nobody's gonna pay me more than Kentucky because you know when they're Kentucky. And also like I'm not as an attractive candidate, so I don't hope that he's like a big priority but again, you you might turn him into a big priority for a brief moment if you're Kelsey, because you just need a body, right, And it actually works out to where if you're going after another big guy a five, they're not gonna be scared of you Ugana and Yinsu
like they're just not. So who knows. Hopefully they add somebody here soon, but I'm not. Look, I'm not. I know they need to add more front court players, like that's a no brainer, that's not even a conversation. But I think they're in with enough to where if they get two of like the five we've discussed, then you know they'll you know, it'll change a lot of things. Now, obviously, if you get Coleman, Hawkins and Great Osivor, that's a totally different conversation. That's like best
case scenario. So we'll see how it plays out. But again I'll say it, probably more than I need to. I think James Scott will be a factor on this team, regardless of who they add in the front court. I think he's got he's got tools that will be utilized here. And I think, honestly, if there was only one guy they were gonna bring from Charleston. It would have been him no offense to Rain Smith, the guy who's a really good shooter who I think, will you know, probably
be the best shooter on this team. That's what he does. But they love James Scott, they love his upside and uh, you know, I think he'll play regardless of who they bring. All Right, so let's see here, we don't have a whole lot of time left in this first segment. Here. Let's go to the text line. I do want to get to this whole NBA NFL player debate that everybody in the in both leagues seems to be sharing an opinion on. But let's go to the text line again.
That'll give us some time here to uh to finish strong here in this In this segment, it says, Nick, do you think JJ Trainor would come back? I see he's still posting stuff on ig that he is working out on campus. I feel like I'm having major deja vu. Did I read that yesterday somebody? I don't think. Did somebody bump their text? Okay, I'm having really Maybe because I saw the Instagram post you're talking about. Maybe that's why I feel like I'm having deja Vu, But no,
I don't think he would come back. I feel like if that was something that was potentially possible, that we would know by now. But he's going to The Paul. It'll be a fresh start for him, and uh De Paul, Chris Holtman, I should say, has put together a pretty good class. Uh, they're gonna be better. Like Chris Holtman, I don't think he's a great coach, but like De Paul, will not be as dreadful as they were the last few years. Now will they ever have sustained
success? I don't know. I think him deciding to go there as a surprise to me, wouldn't you say, like DePaul's De Paul. Like I can't believe Chris Holtman chose that. Yeah. I feel like he could have had better offers elsewhere. A lot of coaches would have set out a year and waited for a better offer than going to the Is he from He's no, he's not from Chicago. He's from Kentucky. That doesn't make sense location wise. He's from Nicholasville. And uh I know the ad at the AD
at De Paul is what is his name, Dwayne Pevee. He used to be the assistant ad at Kentucky, which, by the way, I don't know Dwayne Pevee, don't know them at all. But when I think of Dwayne p Dwayne Pev, I'm gonna think of one thing forever. When he hired his last basketball coach, the two guys he offered the job to were Kenny Payne and Tony Tony Stovelefield. Like, dude, think about that, Like just I mean, I'd resigned. I would. I would. He
probably will get fired if Chris Holtman doesn't work out. Yeah, but I think even right now, it was a good move for him, right, like the fact that they could get him. So I don't know, Like obviously, Holtman has not worked at UK and and I think he's been away
from the state in his profession since since high school. But maybe there's some level of like a Kentucky connection there, you know, because Pev was a Yeah, but yeah, duaye, Holtman has added some some solid pieces that you know, should make them at least, you know, far more competitive than they were and the bars low because they've sucked for I mean, they're they did beat louisvillelat year, which is crazy to think about they only won
three games and one of them was Louisville, which is insane, but they you know, they're they're in a situation where like Louisville had a nightmare two years stretch. De Paul's kind of been that for like ten years, right, Like, I'm sure they've been head years where they were like closer to five hundred, but like they've sucked for a long time. So if they come in this year and they're like battling for five hundred, that's going to
be like new life for them. And I think Holtman's the guy that could do that. So you know, with JJ, I actually think he would he would be able to play the way that Pat Kelsey wants to play. I think Louisville could probably give him a better nil situation than DePaul could. But you know, I JJ just wanted a fresh start, and I totally get it. This young man got here in his first season whenever no fans
were here because of COVID, they had a bunch of games canceled. I mean, he went through who else came in that year with JJ, because certainly there was nobody on the roster this past year that was with that. You know that that got here at that same time because JJ was here from two thousand and twenty one to twenty twenty four. That's the worst stretch in the That's the worst four year stretch in the history of Louisville basketball. So
fresh start absolutely understandable for him, and I hope he has success. There's also the other side where you could think, Okay, you know what, I love Louisville so much. I am from here, my dad played here. I can't have it in like this. I got to do one more year, and I know it will be better than we ever were. So but but you know, he probably said that when he decided to play for Kitty paying for the second year. He probably decided to I mean, probably
decided that same thing whenever Kenny was hired. So I would I wish he would have stuck around, But you know, I think he's content with his his final In fact, j J could have two more years. He he gets a COVID year, which gives him this extra year that like he's playing now because this is his fifth year, but also he red shirted. He's he's gonna apply for a medical red shirt this year, so he could have two years left if he wanted to, So all right, quick break,
we'll come back on the other side. Keep the party going. It is coffee and Company, and we are fueled about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. One of the things I love about the text line is it's
a platform through Google Voice. For those who don't know what that is, but it it's a you know, it's just like having a I mean, I can log into it on on the desktop here in front of me, and you know, every number that is texted in, like your entire text from every text you've ever seen, is right there on you know, within within that thread. So with that, I could actually at times reference like as somebody you know, kind of in on like having fun or they or
they being a jerk, you know what I mean. Like sometimes you know, you can't pick up sarcasm. At times I've thought, Okay, well that's that's something that's funny. That's somebody who gets the show. And then I'm like, wait a second, like they could just you know, maybe
they're just you know, maybe they hate me. I don't know, but anyways, this person who has been kind of you know, has had some fun with us on the text line before says Nick, there's no doubt if Ugo was just listening to that, Louisville is definitely gonna get him, which I didn't. That wasn't my point of saying that, but you know, it was just trying to motivate him, you know, like let him know, Hey, you want that three hundred K. You gotta work, son,
You got to get in the weight room. You gotta you know, develop some level of offensive, you know, life. So I feel confident that he was not listening, So there's nothing to worry about. But yeah, that that it took a turn. I just was mentioning him as somebody Louisville could go get, and then I talk about the money, and then I'm just you know, it's because I don't believe any of the money that people throw out there as far as what these guys are getting in the portal.
And it's not to say that they're not getting any money, it's just I who would do that like you, Cause here's the thing, there aren't that many dudes in the portal that like, you have to have or you will suck. So I just think it's at least at times half of what you hear, and we'll probably never get the full number, and it is
a little muddy as far as how it had to be done. But I'm sure if you're a Kentucky fan and you're a Louisville fan as well, you probably heard Oscar Shiba when he came back to school for his second year a Kentucky after winning the national chance, after winning the National Player of the Year, that he got two million. Like you heard that, right, John, Like that was kind of like it was just it was talked about by
a lot of people. I heard he wasn't even a million, And like the person who would know who told me that would be somebody who would have a lot more information than most about that. Now, when I say his had to be done differently because he wasn't a US citizen, he you know, they had to get creative as far as how it got done. But you know, it's closer to write at a million than it was two million.
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started on the Pat McAfee show. I believe yesterday might have been Monday. You know, sometimes over a couple of days, things really kind of you know, develop a life of their own. Uh. And this is Austin Rivers, who former NBA player I think played for about ten years Doc riversun He went on with Pat McAfee and I don't even really know the context as far as how this became, like how this even was discussed, but here
is what he had to say. He says he could take thirty players right down the NBA, throw them in the NFL, and they they play. He said, you can't take thirty NFL players and put them in the NBA, where the best athletes in the world are. That's us. I could take thirty players right down in the NBA and throw them in the NFL. You cannot thirty NFL players and put them in the NBA. Woh five on the court, let's just all break every play, catch the ball and run.
So there's more to it, and we don't need to hear that. But this has turned into again, I feel like it's an annual thing where one athlete on one side, whether it be basketball or football, says something like this, Oh, this is this. I've never this is that. That's a different level of just you know, that's that's something he's clearly very passionate about and doesn't believe as an opinion. He believes it's a fact.
The realities will never know because they it's not. It's not something that we're going to go find out about. But the NFL players are the ones who I think are the most defensive about this kind of stuff. And it's because they're they're they're on the they were on the attack, they're now defending themselves, right like, and I don't I don't think either would make sense.
Right Like, if you're a professional football player in the National Football League, regardless of what position you're at, you're not training like you're you're basically you know, unless you're like a punt or a quarterback. Now, because a lot of those guys don't run, some of them do. But just randomly throwing a guy in the NFL that's an NBA player, or throwing an NFL player in the NBA randomly like it doesn't make any sense. It wouldn't work.
Now. The real question that is a better question that again we probably will never get the answer to, is if you took a Lebron James and said for three months, you are not touching a basketball we are going to train you to be a receiver. That's a different conversation. And yes, I think Lebron James could absolutely be a dominant receiver in the NBA or in the NFL, I should say, And I don't think that's a hot take. I don't think that's crazy. Lebron James is one of the most gifted
athletes that has ever walked on this planet. And he played football too in high school. Now, because football is a true, violent, physical sport. I say this all the time about football. I love it, don't want to live without it in this world today in twenty twenty four. If you introduce this sport today, they would not let us play it, especially not with guys built like automobiles. I'm serious, they wouldn't. They would, There's no way. And it's still relatively new in the grand scheme of
like society. That's like we're learning just now about like CTE. So you know, it's such a it's it's a violent sport and it takes a tough son of a bitch to be able to play in the NFL. I don't think anybody would deny that. Oh maybe Austin Rivers would because he's mentioning, you know, you don't have to you only have to run with the football. You get to take a thirty second break every play like That's that's just
idiotic to say, and it's insulting to NFL players. But you know, I don't think that NB NFL players believe that a guy like guys don't want
to That's one thing. But like if an NFL if a if a basketball player and this has happened, Actually, if a basketball player like mo Ali Cox who played it Baylor, or legendary tight end and Antonio Gates who played college basketball at Kent State, did not play football, those are guys who have created NFL careers for themselves and they never played in college, so they
clearly went through training to get more comfortable and have had successful curse. George Fant, kid from Bowling Green, played at WKU, was a great basketball player at WKU. One year with Jeff Brom decided to, you know, use his year of eligibility and try football out. Was an offensive lineman. He's been in the league for like ten years now, Like so's it can be done. But I just think you know, there was some you might have been cash Daniel. You guys remember that name who played at Kentucky,
played football for Kentucky. You know, he said that he doesn't think there's a single guy in the NBA that could get through fall a fall camp in the SEC. That's a macho masculine thing because clearly the sport they play is
violent and it is. It's it's there's no comparison to it unless we're talking like mma, you know what I mean, Like the physical within the world of football at the highest level and the physicality in the NBA different like this not even the same planet, right, So I think everybody knows that, including NFL players. So they get so defensive because again, they do go through a much more physical sport than any basketball player would ever go through.
But outside of the physicality, that's where I think it gets more interesting to discuss, because it's not to say that these guys couldn't do it, it's they've ever done it because they play basketball. That's how they make millions of dollars. They don't make millions dollars playing football like you did. So I'm a little I don't know, I don't want to say like I'm annoyed by it, but football players won't have the conversation because again they get hit and
basketball players don't. And to them, that just makes it to where, you know, anybody not playing football and it comes to sport, a bunch of sissy boys, John, a bunch of pansies. That's just the way it is, getting the weight room. And look, I'm you know, I'm mocking it, but like it is a you have to I think have some level of I mean, it's it's again, it's a violent sport.
I mean I was a whimp grown up playing football was the only sport between baseball, soccer and you know basketball, all that stuff included that I didn't try because I knew I wasn't built for it. Yeah, so I mean I would have not been good at anything in football. Also, I wouldn't I wouldn't want to get hit. Also, what I could tell you, I wouldn't like wearing pads like that, would I do? You know, I guess you get used to it, but like it feels like a hindrance.
So I think when if we're just going to talk about like skill sets in the two sports, that could translate like in the NFL, I don't think there's a whole lot that you can see from a football player, even the best doing it, that will that will give you a level of like, yeah, we could put him here and play this spot, you know what I'm saying. And in football it's a little bit different where you can
look at a guy who is I'm sorry other words. Basketball is a little different, like you can look at you could like, for example, like you may have a receiver that's a six or four receiver, built like an NBA two guard. We don't know if he can dribble the ball, can he shoot? Does he have hand eye coordination? Like, it's a different
world on the football side. I just I have a harder time believing that somebody could just flip the switch and go do it because when you're going from basketball to football, Yes, you still have to have skill, right, you have to have the ability to make amazing catches, you know, to throw the football with precise accuracy, you know. But really it's about speed,
athleticism, strength. I mean, I don't want to make it sound like you don't have to be smart to play football, but you can be a legendary player and be a genie and a guy that understands the game knows the game, but you might actually be that legend because you're a monster, you know what I mean. Like, you know, if there are guys who may be monster monster as humans, but if they're not tough enough and if they don't really know how to play with technique, then they wouldn't succeed.
But I just I again, I actually think that when it comes to basketball players, you can look at certain guys with their their their physicality, meaning they're built like you know, a dump truck, and you know they've got the size, height, weight, and you've seen them on the basketball court. You know they have enough quickness. You can tell a lot about a basketball player. I mean two things that stand out pretty quickly when when
I watch basketball players, especially big men, footwork enhances. So I actually think if you again, you know, get somebody with repetition that's been an NBA player that has that has i mean proven to be one of the best athletes, like athletes on the plan it and you put him at receiver, put him at tight end. You know it. Don't don't mean they'd be good at it, but like I think it's it would be something that would be an easier transition than putting a football player, you know, as your
point guard. Now, if they've played both sports their whole life and they just picked one, it's a totally different situation. But it's one of those great debates. You know why. It's great because it never ends, and nobody will ever be proven right or wrong because we'll never find out. I mean, I think some other debates that that in sports. I mean, well we actually already know the answer, but like should Pete Rose be in the Hall of Fame? You know, because he better on the game?
You know that kind of stuff. So I don't agree with anything that Austin Rivers said, but I think that there actually would be a better percentage chance of somebody make players in the NBA making that transition, but really only at like certain positions, right, Like, I don't know if there's a if there's many, if any dudes in the NBA, there are probably some that would like be great offensive linemen, right or even quarterbacks, right Like,
That's it. Like, there's a lot more positions in football, and each of those positions I think require an entirely different skill set build everything. Meant, you know, as far as what you're seeing, what you're reacting to in basketball it, I mean, especially now, a lot of it's positionless.
So like, if you've got unbelievable god given talent as far as an athlete size, speed, and you've you know, shown the ability within basketball to have good hand eye coordination, agility, I think you'd have a better chance of turning that player in the basketball side to an NFL player than you would the other way around. But again, just my opinion, all the NFL players want to kill. Austin Rivers, by the way, with me, sounded not like a douche necessarily, but totally he sounded like a man
on a mission with what he was doing when here. And here's what's crazy is that he already has this image that like I at times have believed was unfair because he a rich kid who his dad played and coached in the NBA, and he's super talented, played in the league and was a fine player. But like he's looked at this rich daddy's boy that didn't really have to you know, grind his way up in the NBA like everybody else, which I'm not even saying is true. But then like when you see that hear
that reaction in the way he said it like I can. You know, maybe people think that because of how he acts more than any other thing about his you know, his background. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. Wrap of the four o'clock hour. Keep it rolling along. It's Coffee and Company feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. That's right, Coffee and Company rolling along here on a Wednesday? Is it Wednesday? It's Wednesday? Right it is? When this week's
gone by, fast man. I was not expecting that post derby, but yeah, it's flying flying right by again. Coffee and Company feel by Thornton's here on a Wednesday. And now much time left here in the four o'clock hours. So we've been very active on the text line today. Let's do the phone lines now. Let's welcome in Jerry, who joins us here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Jerry, how you doing, sir? That's going Nick? Hey, y'all done? Doing all right? My man? Good?
Uh. I got a question and then I got a comment questions about about football. He's talking about football. Are you gonna let your son play football when he grows up? He wants to play, so he has some cousins that are that are that have been playing in some form or fashion, mostly flag until recently. And yeah, he uh, I mean he's gonna play. I mean, I'll probably be nervous as can be, but he wants to play. He's only three, but he wants to play. He's
seen his cousins play and his mama wants him to play. So yeah, I don't know if he'll be any good, but he'll he'll give it a go. There you go. I'm just curious. I got a grandson, I got grandsons about a year younger than him. It's gonna be interesting to see how how that's all done down the road. It won't be my decision because I'm just a grandfather, not a father on that deal. So anyway, my comment earlier, you were talking about Clemson going to Clemson the fans.
Uh you you said that you'd always heard they were welcoming, come party with us, blah blah blah. Isn't that what you're saying? Yes, okay, my take on that is. And I'll give you a couple of different perspectives real quick. I always say this, it's always easy to be a good sport when you're winning. Okay, and they and they're and they're
winning. Let us rip off about four in a row. Not that that'll ever happen, but if it did, and then go to Clemson and see how you're received, It's not it's not gonna be the same, I promise you. I got a brother in law that's from West Virginia and they hate Clemson. You know, uh, they hate them with a passion. And I know West Virginia fans don't have a good reputation either, but they they
swear that Clemson fans are every bit as bad as as their own. Yeah, okay, Jerry, I can see that because you know, I think when they're doing the kumbah ya, Oh come on, we're all having a party together, it's because they don't really respect you, and they think, oh, you got a cute little program, welcome to town. We'll we'll show you around, you know, maybe give you a beer or two.
And then if they ever yeah, I wouldn't doubt that at all. If they started then see you as a real threat and competition, then it changes, I'm sure in a major way. There's no doubt in my mind. And and and I'll give you two quick ones. I think you're probably too young to remember much about Bobby Knight, correct. I remember him. I remember him being the coach at Indiana for sure, and I remember knowing he was a legend. But at the time, at the end, you know,
he wasn't having a lot of success. But yeah, a lot of the you know, the legend of Bobby Knight, from top to bottom. It's things I learned way after he was he was coaching. Okay, so so Bobby Knight and Bobby Knight versus Denny Crumb. Denny Crumb had his faults. I'll never say he didn't. But one thing about Denny Crumb is this, he treated the handshake with the opposing coach after a winner or loss exactly
the same Bobby Knight. Nowhere near the same. Okay, he would he would give you a quick, hard handshake and fly by if he got beat. He's not gonna give any opposing coach a minute's chance to say anything to him. That was his way. That was the way he did things, and I never respect at him for that. He was a hell of a coach. Jimmy Crime the total opposite, you know, he was. He
was the ultimate sportsman when it comes to that handshake. One more thing, I always felt like coach K having played for night, I felt like he was sort of the same. I think he's a phony. I always thought Coach K is a phony, and and and and I'm not I am the
I am an ultimate Louisville fan. I do not like Kentucky. But the night that duke in Kentucky played and Christian Latner hit the shot, I was at work that night, I had to work, and uh, and I was listening to Kawood on the radio, and after the game Showshewsky made it a point to go over because it was kve Wood's last game that he ever
called. And and he he he, he slabbered all over Kwood. And I always I always told people, I said, if he'd have lost that game, no way in hell he'd went over there and been cordial with Cabood. There's no way. And I'm not a cat thing, you know, he could care less. But but but I think Kay is a phony. I always did. I think that. Uh. I feel the same way about Tony Bennett. I think he's he's so I don't know sure it'd be good that it can't be true, you know, I just can't be fo
boy. But anyway, that's all I got. I appreciate it. Thank you appreciated Jerry. Yeah, Tony Bennett, I don't know if he's a if he's a good guy, bad guy, whatever, But Tony Bennett is I've heard him yell at refs and it's not like he you know, tears him down verbally like nobody else, but like it doesn't really fit actually does Okay, so he he'll he'll get on him and just be you know, just all over him. But he also kind of does it in a way as if, like you know, he's like a whiny, like snob kind
of thing. But yeah, the Devil Sweeney and he mentioned Clemson Devil Sweeney is is somebody that, like I do respect the fact that he is. He's not changing who he is or anything of his beliefs at all, And you know, I think it's stupid. I think it's gonna lead to Clemson clearly falling notches down than where they once were. But like, if anything,
he's sticking to you know, sticking to his guns. But you know, to me, I feel like he's he's one of those guys that you know, when he does lose, he's usually kind of you know, the worst about it, which I thought that's where Jerry was going with that. But let's ye know, we're late for a break here, let's get out of here, but we got another hour coming, so stick around, don't go anywhere. It's coffee and company. We are fueled by Thornton right here on Sportsbox seven ninety