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It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Now, here's Nick Coffee. All right, let's get it started, Ladies and gentlemen, hour number three, the five o'clock hour. Here on a Wednesday afternoon Coffee and company. That's us. My name's Nick Coffee. The company man John Alden alongside. As you could expect a lot of reaction today to the big news that isn't just big news around here, but

it is national news. LPD has not ILYMPD, but the prosecutors have decided to dismiss all charges that were filed against Scotti Scheffler twelve days ago when he was on his way to the PGA Championship right after a fatal accident took place and was told by one law enforcement officer that he was good to go around and then stopped by another, and then it, you know, all hell

broke loose, really just with one guy. I mean, it sounds as if the entire situation, you know, the one person that was like hot about it was that guy, the guy who you know, hopefully he pulls through, I'm not sure he's gonna make it. He had a booboo on his knee, and he got his pants ruined. I think what happened. He might have pooped his pants, that's how they got ruined. He was so frightened that Scotty Scheffler was going to run him over. And yes I'm

exaggerating because that didn't come close to happening. That's probably what it was. Look, I've never done that, but I bet if I got scared enough, I could see that happening to me. I mean, you never know what your body's gonna do when you get that scared. And clearly someone driving in a PGA Championship vehicle going slow kind of trying to skirt around you guys to get to his tea time, that'll put some fear into you that you've

probably never experienced. And that's probably why he pooped his pants and they were ruined eighty dollars pants for that matter, and you know he had a booboo. So this is good news that they've dropped charges, but I mean, it still sucks that it happened. And each day that there has been new information provided, and really each day that like anybody talked about it from the

Louisville side, meaning when Mayor Greenberg talked about it. LL and PD talked about it, did their presser, but it really wasn't a presser because it's not a press conference if you don't take questions, is it it's just a statement that you're like you're releasing. I mean, I think you could have just put it in a statement if you're not going to take questions. So, you know, it sucks all the way around. And I don't know if it's going to be something that people years from now think of when they

think of Low I would imagine not. But sometimes crappy things happen, and you know there's really nobody to blame. Sometimes bad things happen, and you know it's it's clearly just one person that decided to do something crazy that was a bad, you know, terrible crime or whatever it may be, and it brought it brought attention here. But like, and I don't give any examples, but what makes this just such a frustrating thing is that it was

so easily avoidable. It didn't need to happen. And for those of you that haven't heard this yet, this was released earlier this morning. This is the audio as Scotty Scheffler was talking to an officer after he was arrested. So this is the aftermath, and this is Scheffler talking to a different cop who we'll let you hear for yourself. You can come to your own conclusion. But this confirms I believe what everybody has said about Scheffler as being a

very very nice, upstanding man with high character. And I don't think you could have been more kind to this police officer at that time. And these guys got their feelings hurt, especially the guy who who might have pooped his pants, and you know, Nope, you can't talk to him. You're going to jail because I said so. So here here's this clip. It's about three minutes, so a little longer than what we would typically give you. That's what she said. No, that's will nevermind it'd be wouldn't that

be what he said? Not? She said? Anyways, here you go my tea time. Yeah. I had to loop all the way around that way. Took me about probably a half hour. Because I pulling in here, the police officer up there told me to come the opposite way with the traffic and then come in. And as I was pulling in, my window is down an officer told me to stop, and as I was First of all, I did not know that he was a police officer. I thought

he was one of the security guards that was mistaken. And as I was pulling by me, he grow stop stop right there was or if he's a security guard or a police officer, because if somebody's telling you to stop, yes, you're right, I should have stopped. I did get a little bit impatient because I'm I'm quite late for my tea time, and as he was reaching in the car, he grabbed my shoulder and hit me like I'm

trying to get you to stop right, yes, okay. It seemed to be a little bit over aggressive because the entrance was open, okay, and I pulled a little bit because I was afraid. I thought he was gonna start hitting me, and I didn't know who he was. He didn't tell me he was a police officer. I didn't always always a yellow jacket. I know what he was doing. I was listened well, a police officer.

So the thing is he's wearing a uniform, okay, he also is wearing the same jacket that I have on the says police also on that if someone's telling you to stop. No matter who it is, you don't keep going. So what happened is you kept going and you took him with you while he's a pedestrian. Okay, So you took him with your car and drug him, okay, which is not a good thing right everywhere that was that was to make it so to listen to me, so make it even

worse. When he asked you to get out of the car, he refused to get out of the car. I still did not was not wear he was a police officer. I was actually looking out the window of the car to try to find a police officer. I asked, we're all right here, and he was there, believe me. Sure, we're all wearing yellow vests. So you can see this. If you knew he was a police officer, I would have been much more less afraid. But panic kind of set in. As you can see, I'm still shaking because I was afraid.

I didn't know who he was. He didn't say police, get out of the car. He just hit me with this flashlight and yelled get the car. So we're wearing a lot of police gears. That's surely signifies that we're leaving me. If I knew he was a police officer, I would have gotten out of the car. I don't know what to tell you other than well, it's a little bit panic trying to get into the golf course. And I now I don't know what to do. But let's go back

to the first point. Okay, No matter if you thought he was a police officer or not, somebody have stuff. Why we're wearing yellow best? Why do you think we're wearing yellow vest? So you can see us right, so you can see this. And if somebody tells you to stop, if it's a traffic guard, security guard, anybody, that means you stop at that time and you don't keep going. Okay, so stuff like this doesn't happen, Yes, because you actually actually hurt him and he's a police

officer. Yes, he's got a huge scrape on his knee. He's getting checked by ems, big Bruce. So I don't I don't know. But for you right now, you're the main question is if you're going to jail, and it's up to him. I don't know. Am I able to speak with him? No? Not at this time. He's no. So what I'm gonna do? Yeah? So that was it. And when you play a clip that long. I try, you know, make some notes here as far as things to hit on from that, and I guess I'll

work my way with the most recent one and go back. Who knew you could bruise that quickly? Right? He's Bruce got a bruise. It sounds like he is it a broken bone? Is it possible to bruise? Like when I think of a bruise, I think, you know, purple dark bruise like brucees take a while, don't they at least to be visible. Well, it's just another one of those things where it's just like really trying

to overdo it when it comes to like the injury that was caused. But also to hear the doesn't matter if he's law enforcement or if he's traffic or security guard. If they tell you to stop, you stop, not necessarily. I mean, I mean, I get that that really all depends on the context of the situation. But that's not just like a known thing if I mean, and the one thing everybody asked, whatever they you know, there was live cameras from the television stations in the aftermath. Is all the

policemen out there wearing those yellow jackets. I'm sure something on those said police, but it wasn't on the back. It didn't seem as if it was like some big thing that everybody would notice. And if he was told by another law enforcement officer that he could that he could go, why didn't that guy intervene and say, yes, I told him were good, Like, I don't think it every They never would have the conversation to let that be discussed because they were so hot about it and wanted to, you know,

just in my opinion, abuse their authority. I mean, he couldn't have been more nice to the to the law enforcement officer that he talked to there, and he wanted to, I guess, explain himself, you know he was. I mean I actually think he probably I don't know him at all, but it wouldn't shock me if he wanted in real time to in fact, maybe counter some of the things that was said, not to say like hey, no you're lying, but maybe kind of to explain himself a little

bit more. But instead he just he just chose to be kind and apologetic for the situation happening all the way around, whereas they took no accountability for how there could have been a you know, not only could have there been a miscommunication and you know, use your brain and realize that, like it's dark outside, it's pouring down rain, it's not actually you know clear to know what's going on. It's a hectic situation, and you know they don't

think about that. I mean, in that situation, they didn't. So whenever he did say yes, I'm sorry, I realized, you know, that led to somebody asking Steve Romans, Scheffler's attorney, today about why did he, you know, kind of admit to that he did, in fact, you know, drag the officer, And that led to a fiery response from Steve Romans that of all the things that Romans said today, I mean, he delivers with about every second of time he gets to speak publicly in

front of a camera and a microphone, and certainly to a judge and a jury, he's very good at doing exactly that. But this woman asked, you know, why, why did you know? Why did he basically tried to say Scheffler lied after saying it was a misunderstanding because this audio proved that he admitted that, like which it didn't. I mean, she she's exaggerating that, but I thought this this response was was was something worth hearing.

And clearly I'd say that is what a lot of folks believe because I think the Way three reporter who had this video out there on Twitter, it's got like over a million views. And again that's that's because this is a national story. Steve. I have to ask you, though, the Standard said Scott, he need after the vest, don't need to prove the line with the point they're seeing right now, he admits that he got in piche and

brent to far. No, here's what happens is he is being interrogated after the most stressful situation of his life, right, and the officer is actually asking him leading questions and trying to get him to agree with them. Okay, and that's why you don't talk to the police, because they are going to try to put words in your mouth. And that's exactly what they did. No, of course he didn't have to speak, but again, he asked to talk to the officer. He wanted to explain to him what happened.

However, they are trying to get him to confess to something that he didn't do, and the video evidence shows he didn't do it. That's why you don't talk to the police. They are not trying to get to what happened. They are trying to get you to incriminate yourself. And that's what they were trying to do to him, and he didn't incriminate himself. He continued to show the quality of his character by trying to diffuse the situation.

He is being interrogated after the most stressful situation of his life. That's just more from that same clip there. But this is something that I'm sure it's getting talked about because it's an important it's an important detail, the claim that he dragged the officer. You know, I don't know if this is going to I mean, I guess the closest thing to proof is that they've dropped

the charges. However, there's no evidence that that happened other than it just being what the And again, I don't believe that there was a secondary altercation and what we I'm sorry there was that what we saw was after the fact.

You know, there's people that say a bus was blocking one of the cameras that's set up there at the course to where you couldn't see initially what had happened, and that he actually already had dragged this officer before you saw the officer try to bring him out of his car, and you know, make it hostile. That just doesn't make any sense to me. Doesn't make

any sense at all. And what I mean by that is like, if what we saw in the video that was released last week was after he had already dragged this officer ten to fifteen yards, everybody else who's out there with Gillis would have been swarming him, honestly, probably would have had guns drawn, given the way that some of these these guys act so like, it

just doesn't make any sense. And to now know that there's witnesses that have talked to both the county attorney and to Romans claim and I guess we're willing to testify that they saw it. They didn't video it, they don't have any evidence, but they saw it, and they're willing to testify that that just flat out did not happen. He is being interrogated whip after the most

stressed. There are multiple eyewitnesses to the incident. The actual initial contact that I've spoken with, I have statements from that the county spoke the Prosecutor's office have spoken with that confirmed that he was not dragged. You believe they would have dismissed this case if he was dragged. No, they would not have. That did not happen. And what really sucks about this is that it wouldn't be a huge shock if, in fact, there was somebody that's famous,

like Scottie Scheffler that did something. Actually, just put it this way. Let's say that whole thing is true and he was dragged and there was video of it and he was still charged and it was a felony. There would still be people claiming LMPD was in the wrong. There'd still be people claiming, oh, come on, give him a break, he was just trying to get to his tea time and you guys were holding him up because you're a bunch of bum cops. Like that would be the reaction from some

people, and that's just where we are in society. But to know that like this was so like this, this was nothing. I mean, I shouldn't say nothing. I mean it was, but I think at least I choose to think that most people would have at least had more of a conversation

and diffused the situation as much as Scheffler tried to. Because I think that's all he was trying to do in that conversation, and yet they didn't want any part of it because in their mind, he'd already you know nothing, Hey, no talking about he's going to jail, buddy, He's going to jail. Remember the first video that came out that morning after the fact, Like that's what they just kept. It's almost like they were bragging, like

scoreboard gotcha, Nope, going to jail. And I know that there are great law enforcement officers all over the world, especially in this city, in this in this area. It just sucks that, you know, you have these kind of things happen, and there are some that will never trust cops for a variety of reasons and just it's unfortunate. But when it comes to what Roman said about like never talk to cops, I mean, I think you should always be kind. If they're kind to you, you should be

respectful. If they're respectful to you, you should follow a lawful command because I mean, you know, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't have said that part because maybe they're giving you a lawful command and it's to incriminate you. I don't know. But if you're just looking to give any law enforcement officer a hard time. Like, you know, I don't think you should

do that. I can't tell you what to do. You can do whatever you want, but I don't think that's something people should do because I believe in being kind to human beings when you can. But some of the questions they do ask, I mean, you know, it's not their business and it has nothing to do. They don't have a right to know that it's not their business, and there's no reason that you should have to answer it.

And some people probably answer those questions, and you know, it ends up getting them down a path to where maybe they've incriminated themselves or at least given law enforcement enough to charge them with something that maybe wasn't legitimate. It's

one of the things he talked about. I don't have the clip of it, but how often times everybody's overcharged initially, and it's because of those kind of things, just because they you know they'll and by the way, you know, until you in front of a judge, I mean, that's really when it comes down to did you do what they're accusing you of doing? Right? But like, let's not act like just being charged with something isn't

a substantial thing. I mean that's I mean, I think if you're charged with a crime and it's like proven that like it was not legitimately something that should have like the charges were not legit I mean, people aren't held accountable for that, and I just think that's wild. I guess if you are someone who brings information to law enforcement that you lie about that then brings charges,

then I guess you can be held accountable legally. But it sounds like this guy, this officer Gillis, I mean, it sounds like he just completely exaggerated or maybe made it up, which is wild to think about, but clearly that stuff kind of happens. It was nice to hear Scotty Scheffler

meant, you know, not Scotty Seffler. But his attorney mentioned that, you know, they didn't want to do any they didn't want to pursue litigation at all, which I think is is good news because you know, it sounds like with the family history of I guess I think his mother, I don't know if she was an attorney or is an attorney still, But there was some national coverage of this, basically stating that, you know, if he wanted to file a lawsuit, you know, he may have some resources

on his side to potentially win a big lawsuit, which good news is he's not going to file a lawsuit, and I think that's you know, nice of him to do. But also, let's be real, if he filed a lawsuit and he won and it was a ton of money, it's taxpayers they would have to pay for that. Lawsuits are paid by the taxpayers. He prevails in civil litigation against LMPD, who pays that taxpayers a Louisville he doesn't wish the taxpayers the Louisville of Louisville to pay him for whatever occurred.

So I'm sure it'll die down in the coming days. But one thing that I don't have a clue what to expect that could make it to where this thing doesn't just go away is that LMPD released a statement earlier this afternoon, shortly after it became public that the charges were dropped, and said that videos and documents which were previously unreleased due to the judicial process, will be made available after appropriate reactions are made. So maybe there's more video that comes out

that makes this look even worse for this officer. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side, keep this thing rolling along again. It's Coffee and Company and we are fueled by Thornton's. Right here on Sports Talk seven ninety this song will always work. Good stuff there, John, all right, it is Coffee and Company. We are fueled by Thornton's.

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sell pest control services. They wear like a like a lime green, like a white and lime green I think. But they have those hover boards that they ride around on in your neighborhood, and it's quite clear like they're they're selling stuff usually like the clipboards a giveaway or like a tablet or something like

that. And I've had people since the show started that are like, you know, friend of mine, one of them being a great friend of mine, Miss Tony Venetti, who says that the sales door to door sales guys from this company they hit Saint Matthew's recently today. It sounds like they got boots on the ground in Jaytown. That's when my buddy tells me they're everywhere. They're aggressive, and it's not uncommon to see somebody walking around a neighborhood

trying to hustle, go door to door. And I got no problem with somebody trying to make a living. I actually don't even mind if somebody came to my door and knocked on it, or they saw me outside and they came to approach me to have a conversation. I'm uncomfortable and awkward because I don't want to be rude and just say no. And I know that they're not just going to take no for an answer. They're going to be not even pushy, but just have a response, have an answer for everything.

They can counter whatever it is you have to say. That annoys me, but the overall, you know, initial interaction doesn't bother me because they're just trying to make a living. Now the way it all started for me the other day, holiday right, I'm packing up the kids. We're going to my mother's house for a little cookout, enjoy the holiday. I'm putting my

children in the car seat. It's quite clear what I'm doing in my garage, and sure enough I turn around the guys right behind me, I mean not like literally, but like, you know, within five six feet and instead of like, you know, hey did I catch at a bad time? Like he you know, inky, went right into who do you guys use for? Because it's never a hey, would you be interested in having a conversation about whatever I'm selling? They never do that because nobody would say

yes. So it's who do you use? And if you say this company or you say you don't, you don't use anybody, then that you know, they can go right into what they want to do. If you, you know, like not interested, they won't just say okay, have a nice day. Oh do you know the smith's down the road? Talk to them. I mean, they have an answer for everything. And I'm not as pushy as maybe some be. I mean, I think as pushy as I've ever been. Was like, look, I'm not interested, man,

not gonna happen, see you later. That's probably about as aggressive as I would ever be, unless you know, it got to a point where it's like, all right, I'm gonna call the cops, you lunatic, leave me alone. But this company, the ones that the one that I'm referring to that's got boots on the ground everywhere they're training. It's it's impressive. Like I would love to be a fly on the wall with a new employee, a new hire, just to hear how they because these guys are not

bashful, they're not discouraged by anything you have to say. And you know, if you've got a neighborhood that doesn't allow soliciting, and I'm sure you know there's some ways around that. But what they've told somebody not in my neighborhood, but a neighborhood near me, because again, this has become like a big conversation around my area because they're everywhere and they're not just like you

know, they're I guess more persistent than anybody else. And it's just got a lot of people upset because like, hey, they keep coming back and they won't leave me alone. But when they ride around on those hoverboards in the street, you know they're on a public street, like they don't think there's anything anybody can do, like I don't. They're not breaking the law. Public street is not private property. They have every right to be there,

so like they're not doing anything wrong. And then they when they come on your property and you say, hey, you can't be here no soliciting because of because of like the HOA or whatever it may be like that has that rule. They the company they work for. Clearly it's not a local company. I mean, they're huge. They pay money in certain areas, according to these salesmen to have like a city permit to where they have the right to solicit, which I'm not even sure if that's the thing, but

that's what they tell people. And you know, it'd be tough for you to be able to, like, you know, prove them wrong. Right. In fact, they may have documentation on them it tells them they're allowed to be there now if you have private property. I guess that's a little bit of a different story. But what I think is wild is that it seems as if, in like the last seventy two hours, they just went

crazy. Maybe it's because summer's officially still well I don't know if it's officially starting, but my official kickoff to the summer is this past holiday week and they just concluded, I mean, and they have it, and I guess they know people are going to be out because the weather's nice and most people

aren't working on Monday, but they were everywhere. But even since then, like they're still around and I just find it fascinating, and we've it's led to a lot of people sharing stories of what, you know, what they what they say to these people who try to sell them something, and then like if you're just immediately a jerk to them, again, you have every

right to do that, and I'm sure they've dealt with worse. But what really just makes it irritating is the a simple hey, no, thank you, not interested like that in any any walk of life, any sales gig, shouldn't that be enough. I mean, I guess that makes you a bad salesman if you do take no for an answer right out of the gate. Because unless people come to you looking to buy, and you're approaching them

like you are, you're hustling. You are soliciting business. And if you go to someone's door, clearly they weren't looking for what you were selling because they were in their home, right, It's it's not you know, if guy walks on the car lot, he wants to buy, right, or at least he's there for a reason and not just to, you know, just to hang out. A guy comes in your store. There's interest at some point it, you know, to some level that you can ask him,

hey can I help you? You know, just you know we got this deal going on. They're already there there, there's some level of interest that brought them to you. But like to go to somebody's door try to do your sales pitch and then tell you not interested, and for you to still try like it is kind of a crazy move if you think about it.

But at one point, like the you know, not to say anybody should be violent or do anything crazy, but I'm just there's gonna be like a video of somebody video on one of these guys, and you know it'll go viral because everybody will share it and say, hey, these guys were my neighborhood. And I'm I don't mean one or two guys specifically, I just mean the people who work for this company. It'll be a video of somebody pushing them off of their hoverboard as they're walking away. I would be

terrible at selling anything, I believe. In fact, my first job I worked at Finish Line. I'm sorry. My first job that I actually worked for a while I was Finished Line. But my first job was at Hollister, and uh, you know, I made very little money hourly, and I got commissioned if I helped somebody with something. So what I was told to do was stand and unfold and refold jeans in the in the guy section and ask people who walked by, have you heard how good our jeanes fit?

And you know that didn't. That wasn't a line that got much interest from anybody, and it was awkward. So I took my first break and never came back. Had a little bit of better luck at finish line, which is kind of the same type of job if you think about it. But I'm just curious, like I would love to hear it. I don't. I'm not. I wouldn't. I wouldn't make fun of them. I wouldn't do it to, you know, to make a joke out of them.

If you have done that type of job, and you've had success to where you have legitimately made a living, and you didn't like look to leave the first chance you get because it was something you were able to actually generate income from and you and you found out you were kind of good at it, I'd love to pick your brain on the show, because I bet you have some stories about things people have said to you that what did you to

get the hell away? I'm sure you've got some success stories where might it might have started out like that type of an interaction and sure enough you sold them. And I would also love to know the commission structure because I would imagine probably if you because that's a hard thing to do. It'd be funny if when you were having the conversation with the guy the other day or just in another instance in the future, if you got them, if you started

your own conversation about how do you do this? Man like just making it about I may do job. I may do that next time. I may say, look, let me tell you this is who I am. I'm sure you don't know who I am, but I host the radio show and we've talked about you, not you specifically, but this situation I got it. I would I'm not gonna buy from you, but I'll give you my

time if you want it. Knowing you're not gonna get a sale, he'll probably walk away, right, But if he would have a conversation with me, I would pick his brain and he may not tell me the truth, but I'm you know, well, if he broke down. He's just like, man, this sucks, this is all of God. I would that may I'm let's be real, you think some of these guys haven't given like

the ultimate pity sympathy thing to get a sale. I guarantee you they have, right, Like, I'm just trying to make a living to feed my kids, and that may that may be true as well, and that may be that may be a savvy move to to get it done, you know, get the deal by you know, anything, anything, any means necessary. One of the things I didn't mention yesterday was when he asked me if

I knew the Smiths who I don't know? Who they are? He asked me if I knew my neighbor across the street, who I do, and I don't believe that they are a customer, which I'm pretty sure they're not. You know, he continued to mention other people. And you know, at this time, I'm just walking around walking, you know, just finally got my daughter in her car seat, got her buckle in. I'm walking like, I'm not even looking at him. I'm just walking back to the

car to get in. So he finally takes the hint, and sure of me shutting the door and you know, turning the car on. That was him, you know, that was him. He was leaving at that point, but it's like he had the like he in his world, he thought that that's all people do in the neighborhood is talk about the services they provide and how we all need it. Like, what do you mean, Like, even if I do know them, do you think that's what we talk

about? Like just fascinating to me. Fascinating stuff. All right, quick break, we'll come back and wrap this thing up. On the other side, it sounds as if we're getting closer and closer to figuring out every player that is in the draft currently if they're going to stay in or come back. And man, a lot of schools have already used their scholarships because I think a lot of coaches would love to rather be safe than sorry. But

there's some good players left. I don't know if i'd say there's any elite guy left, but Arthur Kaluma Coleman Hawkins. I mean, those are two guys that I feel like could play for anybody. Obviously different role depending on where they go, but where they end up it'll be interesting to see, all right, quick break again, We'll let wrap it up. On the other side, it's coffee and company. Feel abut Thorton's right here on Sports

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So I'm trying to see if there's any if there's any up to date list here. The one I'm looking at is is from a couple of hours ago. But you know, Arthur Kaluma, we talked about him. He's coming back to uh to college. Don't know where he's gonna end up. Also, who else was it that Coleman Hawkins He's gonna which he's I guess he's withdrawn from the draft. And those are two players that I feel like right now would have to be up there as far as you know, some of

the best players available in the portal. And I'm sure there are some schools that have scholarships available. I mean, I'm sure Kentucky has some, Indiana doesn't have any, Louval didn't have any, Indiana has one. I thought they took the kid from Butlerman they did, that was one of their two. Yeah, well heck, maybe they could get involved here with one of these players and you know, really add a nice piece to to to round

out the roster. So if I was a coach, this would be a difficult decision for me as far as how you like, how you go about managing scholarships, because at this point, I mean, there's probably still players available. But I would say on the Louisville side, you know, they they were willing to take that last commitment from Frank. I can't think of

his last name and Insulm. Maybe I'm saying that incorrectly. He was the transfer who played at Syracuse and at Georgia, and it's played a lot of basketball but has not at all been you know, a super productive player. But maybe he's just a good a good body. I mean to me, he's the exact kind of player that you should expect to get if you only have one scholarship left, you know, he's not going to have a ton

of high interest. And you know, when you're at thirteen and you've built a team from scratch, it's going to take somebody willing to have a minor role. And I'd say given that he's had a minor role at Syracuse and at Georgia for four years collectively, then you know, Louisville was an attractive spot for him. But if they'd have left that open and potentially, you know, pursued one of these guys available, I wouldn't have criticized it because

you could still get some good players. But you never know, right like, there's a lot of schools that are going to be going after these guys, and if you can, you know, if you have the ability to just finalize your roster, like a lot of schools probably have it. Point I mean, I get it. Which, by the way, UL has announced a lot of these guys officially meeting all these players that have that have transferred in and I'm excited. We got a long way to go to basketball,

but just you know, these are not. These aren't guys we weren't aware of. But I cannot wait. I mean, the air has already started, right with with I mean Pat Kelsey, I mean we know that, but this will be a great year for them to have had a summer trip for us to see this team. But you know they don't choose to do that, and that's fine. Have a good night, everybody, see tomorrow.

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