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getting them at Thornton's. All right, As you could expect, we have spent the majority of the show today discussing I think the biggest story in the world right now, certainly the biggest story in sports, and certainly the biggest story locally, as Scotty Scheffler was detained, put in handcuffs and then later arrest had taken to jail on his way to Valhalla this morning. I mean, again, just something that when you say it out loud, you think, well, there's no way that can be real, and it is.
So this all I guess, you know, I mean, I always struggle to choose my words here as we talk about something that is rather serious, which is somebody who's tragically lost their life. But I don't want to act as if his you know, like somebody's at fault for I mean, that's just a tragic accident that happened where a volunteer, no gentleman named John Mills
was killed earlier today. That's what led to their being I guess different traffic flow and pattern, right, It was a fatal accident that led to somebody losing their life where one of the buses that was transporting people attending the PGA Championship of Valhalla struck someone in the road, which was John Mills, and he died. So that led to them shutting down the road, Shelby Hill Road and clearly having a different procedure to get people into the course, including
golfers. So after that happened, they, I guess, let some golfers through with their PGA marked vehicles, which I'm not even sure what that looks like, what that is, but I guess if you're a golfer in you're heading to get ready for your tea time, you are in a marked vehicle. That lets I guess law enforcement and anybody working the event know that you are. You know, you could probably get places most people can't when you're in one of those vehicles. Right, So now we're hearing that it's you
know, I guess all just a misunderstanding. But I think the report from John is it is you know, it's is it John J Jefton? Yeah, Jeff Darlington, the ESPN reporter who doesn't usually cover golf that I'm aware of, but he was there and saw I guess I think he saw everything. Right, everybody shares the you know, he shared a video that has been played maybe a billion times now all over the internet and on television, and some initially said, well, hey, that's just showing the aftermath.
That's not showing what happened. That's showing him getting arrested. But the way he describes things, he didn't have his camera rolling, But I think he saw everything, and this is him giving a detail of what of what happened this morning between Scotti, Scheffler and lmpd Well Greendy. As you could see in some of that footage, it was a very can situation this morning. Already outside of Valhalla Golf Club as police were responding to a separate incident down
the road. It resulted in road closures and ultimately was only a situation where officials and players could get to the point where they could even approach the Valhalla entrance. But what happened next was certainly surreal. There was a bus that did not have a driver in it that was still sitting outside of the main gate of Valhalla Golf Club. Police were trying to figure out how to get
that bus moved. Scotti Scheffler was in a vehicle too. Behind that bus, Scheffler attempted to drive his car on a road that was jammed with vehicles onto the side medium plenty of space on that median where Scheffler could move his car around toward the entrance. A police officer in a yellow jacket like those ones you're seeing there, approached Scheffler's car told him to stop. Scheffler continued to drive his vehicle, at which point the officer attached himself to Scheffler's car.
Scheffler's vehicle then drove another fifteen to twenty yards, making the left into Valhalla Golf Club before coming to a stop at that point, the officer took his flashlight and start to bang on Scheffler's car, telling him to open the window or open the door to get out of the vehicle. Scheffler lowered the window. The officer then ripped the door open, pulled Scheffler out by the arm, pushed him up against the vehicle, placed him in handcuffs. At
that point, I approached Scotti Scheffler and the officers. Scheffler turned at me and said, can you help me. The officers then confronted me, told me to step back. I informed them that I was a member of the media, at which point one officer told me there's nothing you can do. He's going to jail. Another officer that approached me shortly after with a pad in his hand and said to me, could you please tell us the name
of the person that we arrested. So everything we've seen in the police report, and I feel like everything we've heard on Scotty Scheffler's side, he did talk after his round earlier today at a press conference, and I mean,
would you say we heard more from him than you would have expected? Joe, Absolutely, I think we heard more than I would have expected, and I just expected him to claim that he was wrongfully arrested and that he wants an apology and they're fighting to get charges dropped, and he didn't really do
that at all. So there's some that just assume he was trying to get away with not listening to law enforcement because he's the number one golfer in the world and he's a celebrity and he didn't have to listen to them, and they claimed that, you know, the hell with him, throw him in jail. He thinks he's above the law. He shouldn't get special treatment. And then there's others that just assume, well, here we go, LMPD.
They're out here just using their authority, being hot heads and overreacting and not de escalating situations and instead escalating them to levels they don't need to be at like that. To those are the two sides, and I'm sure there are many that are in the middle. I wouldn't even claim that I'm in the middle. I'm just like, sometimes you can find out details and it
can just truly be okay. Yeah, like both sides kind of a little bit, you know, could maybe each side would have done some things differently after the fact, but you know, it's squashed, right. It's not as if somebody's got to be the enemy and be the one and the wrong that we hate and the other's going to be a victim. Like, sometimes it's not just black and white. Sometimes details don't lead it to where somebody's
terrible and the other person's great. And today this whole thing has reminded me of that that we are like so divided because I think bodycam footage from the officer who attached himself to the vehicle and later, you know, I mean he's the victim of technically in the police report, he's the one who you know, was assaulted and fell in each a second degree felony for Scotti Schefler because he drove fifteen to twenty yards with this police officer attached to his vehicle.
The body cam footage of that would maybe not even give like it may just be exactly what we know right now, right like the officer was in disbelief that he drove with him on the vehicle, and therefore he did what he thought he had to do as a cop, and that's arrest somebody for committing what in his eyes was a crime, which I guess technically it is Scheffler. He could be, you know, the body can footage may show us that he just you know, wasn't being aggressive, but maybe he wasn't
thinking, Maybe he was sleepwalking. It was a misunderstanding. I mean, he didn't say this word for word in the clips that we've played for you and we'll play again for those that missed it. But he claims he was confused as to what he was actually told he was supposed to do, so maybe that led to him still thinking he should have he should have kept driving. But again, the two sides here without anybody, I shouldn't say anybody, but I'm sure there are many that didn't. You know, they didn't
have time. And honestly, some of the some of the transparency here we may never get. But just knowing what we know, maybe there are some that chalk it up as well that probably should have been avoided. But you know, things happen, and I'm sure both sides probably could have done things differently, and it's an unfortunate situation. But you know, I'm not angry and you know, demanding MPD fire a cop or that you know, this golfer go to jail, like I think that's a relatively logical place to reside
within this situation. But again, there are some that won't want any other detail. They just assume this is an a hole golfer that is not respecting law enforcement and we got to teach him a lesson, And they don't even want to think for themselves. They just know that that's that's, you know, in this divide that we have in this country. That is just where
they default to because of that's their beliefs. And then on the other side, it's the those who think that, you know, LMPD is a bunch of you know, bullies, and they just wanted to do They just wanted to escalate the situation and maybe make an example out of a celebrity, even though they clearly didn't know who he was. Like, sometimes you can live in the middle and not be so strongly on one side or the other and be content at least I can. I think some people should try it because
it keeps me, you know, at peace right. I've never once found myself just defaulting to like even if even in like super serious situations that are national talking points that we would never talk about on this show, because that's
not what this is. I never just assume like, well, this must this person must be the worst, or that I would I would want to find any information that I can if I care to even know, if it's something that I'm bothered about and want to know what happened, if I'm interested in it, or it impacts me in any way, I'll find out what I can find out and come to my own conclusion just because that's I thought what humans do, and now I think we just have, you know,
such this divide, and today, unfortunately, is one of those days where I think that was that was reminded, you know, And it's what has me saying this is it's people that I know. It's not just random idiots on the internet. There are people that I know that I know the way
they feel about law enforcement. There are people that I know that feel the exact opposite about law enforcement and without really even caring to get the specifics and wait for more facts and information to come out, or maybe just you know, realizing, hey, maybe both are a little bit at fault, that it's just an unfortunate situation, instead of just being there it's just well, you know, you know, this guy thinks he can get away with this
Nope, not happening. Throw him in jail, back the blue or the other side again. A bunch of bullies, these tyrants, And it doesn't always have to be that. And if you just always assume one of those, if you always assume that in any situation like that has to be miserable. But you know, I'm not a therapist. I'm you know, I agree, I don't have much to add to it. But I think most of those people who fall on in one of those two camps, they are
miserable people. Yeah, I hate to say it. They certainly seem like it. It's the case. It's the way they're that's the way they come off. And what I truly if you know, I find myself at times just wondering I because I can't I can't relate, Like why do you care if I think differently? Like why does that impact you know what I'm saying? Like if I you know, if it's not something that really is in any way directly and you know that involved between you and I as human beings.
If I happen to think that this person, you know, I don't. I don't agree with them, I don't believe them. I don't like them, Like, there's some that if it's if they know someone feels differently, then it ruins any chance of like any civil conversation, and it just, you know, I hate that that's where we are, but that's where we are. So a couple of people have asked this question, and I don't, you know, I don't know the I don't know the answer to
it. But it does make sense, you know, they're they're the did he and as you heard, they did not know who he was. I don't think it would have at he clearly wasn't going to pull the do you know who I am? You're gonna regret this card? Because I mean, that was a good move on his part. Is even if it was a situation where you shouldn't have been arrested, Like nobody looks good in doing that
at all. But there are some people on the text line suggesting that law enforcement may at times actually know who you are and be more inclined to not give you a pass because they want to make an example out of you. They want to, you know, let people know that they don't give a damn of your celebrity status or whatever it is, They're going to hold you accountable. Because they have a badge, Like I don't know, I'm sure
that's happened. I'm sure there are celebrities or people that actually didn't get a pass, but they actually maybe got picked on a little bit because it would be a notable thing to arrest somebody that you know isn't just an average joe, but somebody that would lead to people thinking like, wow, he or she did that. So again, we'll let you hear some more of Scheffler's
clips from earlier. We did play those in the four o'clock hour for those of you that weren't with us. But bodycam footage will we find out if bodycam footage is going to be available? Will I'm sure. I mean we're
gonna find out because people have probably already requested it. But that's something that I just am going to be fascinated to see because if they don't have it, I'm willing to, you know, believe that there may be a policy that when it comes to like traffic, you wouldn't have it, But then again, like wouldn't it be uniform no pun intended, meaning that like if you're on duty and you're a cop, you have it on, like there's no if say, like, that's just what it is, that's the way
it should be. Yeah, and if he did have a body cam that wasn't on or wasn't working, that that falls on the police department absolutely. And also you know, if it's covered up because he's wearing that yellow rain jacket, that's not a good look either, like you that's you know that that's again on, that's on. That's on the police department. And then did he know he was a cop? He hasn't really answered that when he described the situation. Again, he just kind of chalks it up as a
chaotic misunderstanding. But I've kind of talked about it enough in the last two hours or so to where it doesn't really matter. Like obviously, I mean, it does matter, But if you knew the person on your vehicle was a cop and you felt like they were in the wrong for stopping you, it doesn't make any sense to drive fifteen to twenty. It just doesn't. I don't know, I don't know why you would choose to do that. But if it's not somebody who's a cop, but you clearly can see that
they're there working traffic, and maybe it's so dark he didn't see. I don't know for sure, but if somebody's on your vehicle, the only scenario, like they are attached to your vehicle, the only scenario where I think you would just drive off is if you felt that you were in danger. And I don't mean he hasn't described that he felt that way at all, And I don't know why he would, because again, even if he didn't believe it's a cop, let's say he believes it's a a security officer like
that just doesn't that reaction doesn't make any sense. He did, and again I'll never know exactly how he felt, but the way he described everything earlier, when he was talking about getting booked and going, yeah, the car and that kind of stuff, he talked about needing to calm down. So I feel like there was at some point some panic, yeah, or maybe
feeling like he was in danger. Again, I don't know this. You don't know this, None of us know this right now, but it wouldn't surprise me if we find out that he had no idea who was on the car. Yeah, and he said, you know, he did say calm down, but he seemed calm as can be when they were walking him to the car, but maybe that was after the fact, right, Yeah, so maybe that you know that. That's also after he had been taken to the car. If you remember, he said he asked somebody to like come
and sit with him in the car or near the car. Yeah, so that was after he was walked very calmly and you can't even hear him, but he does ask Darlington, can you help me? So yeah, I'm just fascinated to that it got to this point and I find myself kind of desperately wanting to know, Okay, what was the trigger? How did it
get from? He was told to go this way, other golfers were going this way, and then he drove where he shouldn't be and a cop tried to stop him, attached himself to the vehicle and he drove fifty Like how did we get there? And body came footage I think would tell us, but we may not get it all right. Here here's what he had to say. These are some clips from his press conference earlier today at around four o'clock. This was let's see, this is the decision not to tell the
police who he was when when they got me out of the car. I you know, I like I said, it was very chaotic, and you know, I said, I'm sorry, I'm just trying to get to my tea time. And outside of that, it was then it just things you know, escalated from there. I did, you know, numerous apologies and whatever. But like I said, it was it was chaotic, it's dark, it's raining, you know, there's a lot of stuff going on. They just had an accident. I didn't know what had happened at the time,
other than there was an accident. I didn't know that it was it was fatal, and yeah, like I said, my heart goes out to the family, but no, at no point did I did. I tried to name drop myself to diffuse the situation. I just tried to remain as calm as possible and you know, just fall instructions. And this is him discussing again after things had clearly escalated and he was taken to jail, sort
of like what was going through his head. And again, I'm just now that I'm hearing it a second time, I mean, so calm, so mature, like he seems very like whatever about it, like nonchalant, which I don't take that as like an issue. I take it is okay. He's not being hostile, he's not playing the victim. He's being you know,
respectful of everything. But then there are some people that probably got think this guy he tried to run over a call, but he can just be out here acting like it's no Like, you know, there are certain people that are never going to be pleased regardless of what they think, because they have their mind already made up and they feel so strongly about it. But the more we've heard from Scottie Scheffler, the more I'm thinking, like,
wait a second, how did this happen? This just doesn't make any sense at all. I didn't really know. I was just so confused that what was happening at the time that you know, I didn't know what time it
was. I didn't know what was going on. But when I was sitting in like the holding cell or whatever I was, there was a TV there and I could see myself on the TV on ESPN, and it was Get Up was on, and so in the corner it showed the time and they said they were delayed, and I was kind of thinking about my tea time. I was like, well, maybe you know, I could be able to get out, you know, the officers downstairs, and you know, they were they were discussing how long it was going to take me to get
released. You know, obviously you have to go through all all the due process and everything, and you know, I was able to kind of see a bit of the TV, and you know, then I laid down and then I started to stretch a little bit, once I got my heart rate down a little bit. He got a sandwich that was something that was played in the clip that I'm about to play here, and I just saw it
pop open on my Twitter timeline. You know, that seems to be what everybody's running with, is that through all everything, he was still, you know, appreciative that when he was booked that he got he got the sandwich. So hey, this is him being complementary of l MPD. After the fact. The officer that took me to the to the jail was was very kind. He was great. You know, he had a nice chat in
the car that kind of helped calm me down. And I was sitting there waiting to kind of go in. I asked him, I was like, hey, excuse me, can you just come hes come hang out with me for a few minutes so I can calm down, and uh, you know I was. I was never you know, angry. I was just in shock and I think my body was just I was shaking the whole time. I was shaking for like an hour. It was. It was definitely a new feeling for me. And he came out and we had a nice chat,
and then the the officers inside the jail were tremendous. A couple of them made some jokes. I think when they figured out, you know, who I was and what happened and you know how I ended up there, you know, they uh, this one, this one older officer looked at me as I was doing like my fingerprints or whatever, and he looks at me. He goes, so do you want the full experience today? And I kind of looked at him and I was like, I don't know how to answer that. And he's like, come on, man, you want
a sandwich? And I was like, sure, I'll take a sandwich. I didn't breakfast yet, and so, I mean, they were really kind. I'm grateful to have I'm grateful that we have, you know, such strong police and you know there are protectors out there, and you know, like I said, we just got into a chaotic situation this morning. That's really all it was. So this is not from from Scheffler. This isn't
a clip. But earlier today his attorney did release a statement and they did clan you know, Steve Romans did say that they planned to plead not guilty to the charges. That was a statement that Scheffler put out again with his attorney, And this is, I guess, kind of along the same lines of what we've just played for you. But he says this morning, I was proceeding as directed by police officers. It was a very chaotic situation,
and understandably so, considering the tragic accident that occurred earlier. And there was a big misunderstanding of what I thought I was being asked to do. I never intended to disregard any of the instructions. I'm hopeful to put this to the side and focus on golf today. I feel like my head is still spinning. I can't really explain what happened this morning. I did spend some
time stretching in a jail cell. That's the first for me. I was fortunate to be able to make it back out and play some golf today. So I mean, I feel like they're gonna plead guilty, and he's going to chalk it up to the misunderstanding and hopes that they do drop the charges, and maybe they do that, I don't know. But again, at no point does it sound as if he's going to maintain that he that he
you know, was a victim and that he was wrongfully arrested. So it's almost one of those things like this is clearly an insane story and insane situation. Big deal, yes, But the more we like, you know, hear from him and see that if you know, he did what officers said he did, then they probably would react the way they reacted. Like it's almost like we should just move on like this. You know, that's not going to happen. And I'm surely hoping we do get body body cam footage
because it'll at least give us some real transparency. But that's my guess. You have a guest, John, as far as what happens here, I think you're I think you're right on the money. I agree, he'll probably plead down to you know, or just drop charges. And you know, because he's already said, you know, misunderstanding and he you know, he's sorry, and I don't know if that's gonna be good enough. There'll be
something that claim will know. He can't be sorry and get away with it and have charge of drop just because he's you know, it may on the personality of the officer and what he wants to happen, but by all accounts, like to me he is. He has responded as if, like you know what, I misunderstood something and it led to something happening that should not have happened, and it was big misunderstanding and LMPD has been great like it. I don't know why is everybody mad for him? If he's chilling like
he's not mad. All right, we'll talk some football on the other side, because CBS Sports the crew over there, they've put out their annual rankings for the Power four because the Power five is dead. The Power four college football coaches will tell you where Mark Stoops and Jeff Brohm came in. Well done, John, good song choice there. All right. Reminder, I want to be here next week, so you'll be in good hands with a
crew various different folks going to be helping out. John is going to kind of run the show quarterback, and if you will on Monday, Scott Fitzgerald for a couple of days, and then Tony and Dave. I believe we'll
finish up the week. So I am glad that this, you know, is something I was around to kind of react to, just because it's you know, it's a big story that leads to you know, a lot of people wanting to figure out the latest, which you know, if you were on in the mornings, I mean it would have been I mean, you had a lot of people tuning in to get the latest in that kind of stuff. It seems as if things have kind of settled now. I mean, he went out there and played golf, and I guess now we just
wait to see if charges are dropped or what happens. But I keep thinking, like, there are you know, think I'm just I mean, I can only speak for myself, but I can't be alone and wanting some kind of not payoff, but just like, you know, an explanation to how it got to that point. But there's a good chance that that never ends up happening, so we shall see. All right, let's talk some football.
Each year, the college Football crew at CBS Sports, they unveil their rankings for the best coaches in the sport Now it used to be the Power five. Now with the PAC twelve dead, it's just the Power four, ACC, Big East, I'm sorry, the ACC, Big ten, Big twelve and SEC. So Tom Fournellie, Chip Patterson, and I believe there's one more writer for them that I guess collectively, you know, provide their thoughts and they use all of the thoughts of these writers and put the rankings
together. So both Jeff Brom and Mark Stoops came in in the top twenty five. Have you seen this, John, I haven't any guess as to where Stoops came in in the top twenty five. I would say between fifteen and twenty somewhere. You're right. He came in at number twenty. Jeff Brom came in a number nineteen. So I'll read you real quick the write up that they have for each of these two coaches, but the movement from
last year. So when Jeff Brom got to Louisville last summer, obviously he hadn't coached a game yet, he was ranked thirty third, which I remember thinking, man, like I get it, like they've not been like Purdue
has not been a juggernaut. But again I and I'm clearly biased when it comes to Jeff, but I just would get so, I mean just irritated when people would just reference his record at Purdue as if that meant that, well, you know, he must be a terrible coach, because context matters, and I don't think you have to go hunting for like some crazy unknown details about the situation to realize that, yeah, Purdue wasn't, you know, winning the Big Ten, although they didn't play in the Big Ten Championship,
which is crazy for Purdue, but like Purdue was winning at a level they haven't won at in a long time, and winning big games. You know, Jeff Brown at Perdue went three to oh against top three teams when he was unranked. He had you know, a winning record in Big Ten play during his six years there. The coaches before him Danny Hope thirteen and nineteen in four seasons, Daryl Hazel or Hazel three and twenty four in four
seasons. So you know, there's not a whole lot on his resume at Purdue specifically that you can just point to as far as numbers that claim, you know, well, he's great, But I think context matters and Perdue, I don't know, if you guys saw this or not, they have the lowest win total projection in the Big Ten next year. Did you see that, John? I did. But they're supposed to suck. It doesn't
surprise me because they sucked. They always sucked. Jill was there, and the fact that they loaded up on tough non conference games for whatever reason. They don't need that. Well, and to be fair, like they've not always sucked, but because they had their run with Drew Brees and I know Tiller was there, and like they weren't always a joke. But like even the Purdue fans, like when Braun was leaving, like they didn't quite grasp that, Like, no, you weren't great, you were kind of good,
and it was because of him, not you. They had an elitist feel about themselves in football that I couldn't quite understand and relate. Kind of made me understand, you know, maybe why IU fans hate them. But well, that's every team in the Big Ten West. When the divisions were still a thing, they all thought they were so good winning their division. But yeah, none of them are really good in that division in my opinion. Yeah, and now the divisions are gone, right, that's true.
So back to the numbers here, Brom jumped from number thirty three to number nineteen. That's fourteen spots. That's a big time difference, big, big time difference. And here's what it says about Brom. Few coaches are as consistent across multiple spots as Brom, which indicates how good he is. Brom went seventeen and nine and his final two seasons of perdue winning the Big Ten West in his final season. He then returns to his alma mater and immediately
leads Lover to a ten win season in an AEC championship game. Some appoints of Louisville schedule last season, but plenty of teams catch breaks in their in their schedule every year. Most don't take advantage. However, Brom's teams always squeeze every ounce of potential out of themselves. Couldn't agree more like, last year was fun as hell and it was a good year. Regardless of what
anybody says. That was a good year. You played in the AEC Championship game for the first time, you won ten games in the regular season. But I think that team reached their potential and probably actually exceeded it. Like they probably ended up with a better record than they actually were, and I'm sorry that could be. Yes, breaks that get you, they go your way with scheduling, but also it's a coach that's getting the most out of what he has to work with. All right, here's what they say about
Mark Stukes. And by the way, he is down two spots. He was at eighteen last year Nicet twenty considering the university didn't want to pay John Caliperry's buyout and then cali Perry. I mean, they're talking about Caliperry and the right up about why Mark Stoops is ranked number twentieth, it is considering the university didn't want to pay the John Caliperry buyout, and then cali Perry left to take the Arkansas job. We can now say definitively that Kentucky is
a football school. Well done. That's not a good joke, says the fact. I say that only half jokingly as a testament to the job Stoops has done in Lexton. Stoops is seventy three and sixty five with two ten win seasons in eleven years with the Wildcats, and he's seventy one and fifty five after his two and ten first season. Things have evened out in the
last two years and Stoops has respect from our panel. I have no issue with anything they said because stoops record since they had a two inten season in his first year when he took over for Joker Phillips when he inherited, nothing like that matters like that. That's something that is on his record. But yeah, like since then, to see that he's been that much better like that, that that's not surprising because again, Kentucky football is in a drastically
different situation than they've ever been in where they now have some stability. They now go to bowl games consistently. They don't usually do anything substantial to where they're like, you know, competing for the playoff or knocking off elite teams. But they are stable and they're more competitive in you know, the big games that they lose to teams that are really good. They're way more competitive
in a lot of those games than they used to ever be. So I always say this about Stoops, and I don't think it's a backhanded compliment. I think it's quite clear. But you know, he's a made man in Lexington and their fans, you know, they hated him last year, but then he beat Louisville and now you know things are great again. But what makes Stoops a guy that the panel at CBS and others like he's a respected
coach. I don't think anybody thinks he's great. He's never been offered like a better job, unless you believe that A and M really was going to offer him the job and he decided to turn it down. I don't believe that, but hey, you can believe what you want. Clearly there was interest. But my point is this, like he's good, but what makes him respected the way he is respected is because he's made Kentucky not terrible and that was at time. That was at a time something nobody thought possible.
So you know what the ceiling is for Mark Stoops? I don't know. I actually think to see them do another type of ten win season, I just don't see that being doable because you know, they just added Texas and Oklahoma. There's no divisions like they're gonna play. And to be fair, I think the criticism for Kentucky fans last year for going three to five in the SEC was that tennis he's passed you. South Carolina sucked, but they beat you. I mean, who were the SEC wins for Kentucky last year?
Vandy? They beat Florida early on and it looked like a good win and then that kind of fell apart. Who was their other win? Was it Mississippi or South Carolina? No, South Carolina was awful and beat them. I just mentioned like South Carolina beat them bad and they stunk. Who was their other win? Might have been Mississippi State, but then again I think it was Misisis State because they were terrible last year, weren't they?
Or am I just you know? Anyways, you know, I'm not surprised to see Stoops at number twenty, But what I would like to see if these guys are drafting a coach, like if this panel at CVS, If they're drafting a coach and it's you know, one by one off the board, like they're doing the draft like we did John with college basketball coaches, I don't think Stoops would be taken in the top twenty five or maybe even top thirty. Like for example, they have Marcus Freeman and Josh Hipel and
Matt Campbell behind Mark Stoops and Eli Drinkwitz. Eli Drinkwitz just beat Ohio State in a bowlt in a New Year's game and won the SEC East. Did he not? Oh no, I'm sorry Georgia obviously when the SEC East. But like clearly they were good last year. Josh Hipel's been better than Kentucky since he's been at Tennessee. Marcus Freeman, you know, we'll see this year what happens, kind of a flash in the pank. I mean,
you know, they've not really done much. They've not been terrible, but they've not really I mean Notre Dame's kind of just been you know, slightly below I guess their standards since then. So results like buzz momentum, Hypel, drink Witz, sunny Dyke's at TC, you played in the freaking college National and in the National championship game, they're behind Stoops And again it's because well, I mean, yeah, he didn't. He doesn't have any of
those credentials accolades. But maybe he's a Kentucky and they don't suck anymore. They're actually stable and they more often than not get to a bowl game. All Right, I got a question for you, John, Uh huh. Your man's not listed here in the top twenty five, and I don't think you expected Signetti to be not at all to put in the top twenty five. If he's there next year at anywhere. Let's say it's at twenty five or twenty four. Let's just say anywhere between like nineteen and twenty five.
What season do the Hoosiers have for that to be the case. I would say they need to win at least eight regular season games, would probably win their bowl game. Indiana hasn't won a bowl game in any capacity since I think the eighties something like that. Here's what I would say to you, John, you're I don't think you're wrong at all, because eight wins at Indiana is unheard of in the regular season. I mean, it happened with
Alan back in nineteen. Yeah. Yeah, so it's happened before. But I think you can get seven because of how bad Indiana has been towards the end of the Tom Allen era. Yeah. And I think if you get seven and you get one win against a team that like is a big win, like a Washington or something ten, or maybe you mess around and beat Michigan at home, or even any of the of the potential blue blood type
school. If you beat her, even a team that's not like, let's just say Michigan State end up being really good this year, which I don't think they're going to be, but if they were and knocked you knocked him off in East landsing and I know you beat him recently, but like, let's say they're they're having a phenomenal year. I think seven regular season wins and a win against a team that like was a big deal for Indiana.
I think that because he already has a lot of respect. Like nobody he's not in He is not not included here because they think he stinks, because it's just he's taking a jump up from jmu Right. Yes, so I think that's doable. And I don't know the history of Indiana football coaches. In fact, I don't know much about any of them other than the guy they just let go. But Signetti has a quiet, now I shouldn't say
so quiet confidence. But it's also not like he's not Dean Sanders confident, Like he's not cocky as far as his personality, but he will speak and you can quite milarly understand that he is confident in what he and what he can do as a coach. He's not complaining about a lot of resources, like something he wants to go win, and he says that's what they're going to go do, and that's got to be great for Indiana fans to hear.
And I feel like I'm excited, yeah, And I feel like, you know, we all know you never know how any of these coaches work out in anything until you actually get the results. But like the fact that he has that kind of confidence I feel like is new for Indiana and you know, if he's if he's legit, which again, you know this like getting you all to a bowl game in year one is not an unthinkable task
by any means. No, I mean he can be at home games next year, and a lot of them against teams that you could potentially beat. So I mean you go into the UCLA game all the way to the Rose Bowl. That'd be wild, be a good trip, though, it would be all right, quick break, we'll come back and wrap this thing up. Stick around right here on SportsTalk seven ninety. I know some of you today have not been as all over this crazy story of Scottie Scheffler getting arrested.
So maybe you are someone that is just always twenty four to seven on alert to see if there's any new players to keep an eye on for the Louisville basketball rosters. So we've talked about Noah Waterman, who did in fact take a visit yesterday was there were pictures of him taken at Jeff Ruby's so
I have not heard anything about the visit. But after the visit concluded, it was later reported that he was going to go visit Cincinnati, and he may still visit Cincinnati, but within the last couple of hours, Cincinnati landed another player at his position who transferred from Texas, Dylan Mitte. Yeah, Dylan Mitchell. So the insiders that cover Cincinnati for twenty our seven Sports have said that they now and don't even expect the Noah Waterman visit to happen after
Mitchell committed, So they could be wrong. You really never know. In the portal world. There's been there's been plenty of good times. Guys are wrong as far as what's happening and whatnot. But you know, he'd be a big time edition, no doubt. So fingers crossed. Maybe he doesn't make the visit, maybe he ends up committing tonight or something that'd be great because not only would it, you know, get you another step closer to
finishing the roster. It would give you another good player that I think can really help you. All Right, you guys, have yourselves, a good evening, a good weekend, stay safe and again, enjoy next week without me, and enjoy your time away from us. Thank you. I'm gonna try my best and you know again I mean it, you got it. People need a break from me, So I'll be gone for a week and then i'll be back, recharge, ready to roll. So again, have a going take care,