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Uh. One of the conversations we were having myself and the company man John Alden about tipping has led to probably one of our more this week. It's easily probably the most other than whenever we had a commitment from case in Pryor and didn't know it. This this, this particular conversation has led to a big amount of Texters who are reacting to what we discussed, which was which is tipping, you know, gratuity. And it's not because I'm saying you

shouldn't tip or if you don't tip this, you're terrible it. But what I said after the fact, John is kind of being confirmed with what we're seeing here on the text line, because regardless of how you feel, I feel like a lot of people have somewhat of a strong opinion about tipping right,

like that it should be done. It better not be any less than this percentage, and or you know, other people are like, you know, you get what you what, you what you earn, right, if you're not pleasant and my meal's wrong or whatever, then I'm tipping you at doll. Like everybody has their own opinion on it, and it is you know, somebody reminded me this on the text line that it's kind of a

private thing. This is somebody who I can't I'm not going to read the entire text because it's it's lengthy, but I appreciate them sending it in because it's true, people sometimes hide what they tip, like that's confirmation that it is something that is I don't know if it's personal, but like strategically, I've seen people put the pen like over the line where you've you've tipped what you've tipped, like if you're having lunch with a few people and like you

all have separate bills, like you kind of want to keep it private, which I don't really know why people do that, but I know that they do. So the reason it all came up is because there are things that people are now I guess encouraged, pressured, or maybe that's a stretch because just by handing you a receipt that has an option for you to tip, when it's something you would have never tipped before and you don't even know why

you'd be tipping. I guess that's not pressure. I just think it's to me, it's just weak for you know, just to see if like somebody's gonna be a sucker and tip whenever the person that's working there, like that job, that position, by all accounts has never been like you are not expected to take home a lot of money through like it's if you get tips. I guess it's good, but like you're paid a certain rate, Like your job is not dependent upon being tipped, where if you're serving at a

restaurant, you're a bartender, that kind of stuff. I mean, that's what the job is like. Totally different situation. But I went to a restaurant last night with my stepdad, my mom, and my two kids and of course my wife, and we set you know, and I like this place. As far as the food, the service there has always been always been good. I mean it's not I have good enough experiences there to where I go back every now and then. It's not like a place that we

frequent. But I've had two issues here. One we order chips and kso as an appetizer. And it's not a Mexican restaurant or a text mechs place, but a lot of places that aren't that will have chips and kso as an appetizer. It's very popular appetizer, regardless of what kind of restaurant you're you're at. And they gave us the chips and k so and after we finished the chips or we were low on chips, there was still plenty of

k so left, probably about half of it left. So you usually wouldn't even have to ask, right, John, Like, it's just a given that they see that you're low. That's part of the service. They'll come. So we asked for more chips, not impatiently, but just you know, hey, you know you need anything, Yeah, sure, can we get some more chips? And they let us know that, you like,

actually they didn't let us know. That's that's what made it a thing, is that we did not know and they brought more chips and on the receipt, like, they charged us four dollars extra because there were chips that were that we you know, were added after you know that that you know, we To me, that's just insane like that, I don't think I don't know of any other restaurant that does that. And it just blew my mind

that at the time, like they didn't think that that was unusual. And you know, obviously we paid for it, and I didn't take it out on the tip of the server because it's not her decision. She wasn't the one that decided we're going to charge eight each time we bring you a new basket of chips for this case so that you ordered. But that is one thing I doesn't know, you know, again, the food's good enough, the service is good enough to where I still go there. But like that

is something I think I'll always remember because I was just blown away. Well then last night we go to sit down again. There's six of us, and you got to look at the fine print because I would have never expected it. But because there were six people, and keep in mind, two of the people are children, like my son is three, my daughters eight, and they split a kid's meal. But because they were technically six people

sitting down, they automatically included gratuity on the check. But they didn't tell you that you had to really look for that on the bottom of the menu in like tiny, tiny text and on the receipt and it's like abbreviated. It doesn't tell you that that's what it is. It's just you know, one of the little one of the charges that just adds up. And of

course they still leave the option for you to tip afterwards. And you know, I just think that that's I don't know, like I keep telling you dirty, it's I keep saying, it's like deceiving, And that may be a little bit of a stretch, but that's what I believe that it is. And again we've had totally different Like, let me just give you two different responses we had during that and this, Like, you know, everybody's got their own opinion, so I'm not judging you, but these are two

opposites here. One person says, if it says it fine print or not, and you don't read it and don't realize you've already tipped, the only idiot is you and that's your fault. Like, I guess that's that's that's fair, that's true. But here's here's what the restaurant should do if they're

going to give you a gratuity charge, eliminate the tip line. Yeah, don't give them that option, because that's that's trying and take advantage of in somebody and somebody else said this isn't the other actually let me so the other The other response was anything including in teeny tiny fine print is deceiving and a

scam and any business that does that should be ashamed. I kind of agree with you, but it's just become the norm, you know what I mean, Like, there's a reason it's I mean, the fine print is because if you don't, you know, that's how they can get you and that's not new. That's not new, by the way, like maybe at restaurants and stuff. It is with this situation with like the gratuity. But I mean, there's a reason that the saying make sure you read the fine print

has been around for a long long time. But somebody writes it and says, Nick, I am a server, and I'm glad you clarified that we have no we have no control over what they decide to do if they're going to charge your gratuity because your party is big or not. I always make sure I let every person who gets a bill know if it's already on there, and more often than not, they appreciate me letting them know and end up tipping me more than just the added gratuity. I like that's a good

story. I like that, right, because that's somebody who realizes, like, and here's the thing, if your food's bad, if you're you know, if it's wrong, if I mean, I like, your server's there to take your order, put it in, make sure that you know you're you're you're doing okay with drinks and this and that, and ask how you're

doing. But like, if the food sucks, that has nothing to do with the person who is waiting on you as a server, and I just think it's just human nature for people to take that out on the one person that's there, so, you know, like it would take I think the server being just bad for somebody to like I'm not gonna tip them really well, and I hate that. But like for example, like if if you go somewhere and you just were underwhelmed with the food, I think people are

inclined to to let that play out on the tip. Maybe they're not, but I think some will. And that's just totally unfair to somebody that's your server, you know what I mean, Like they have nothing to do with that, like, and they're not taste testing itfore they bring it out to you, right. And there's another person that wrote in that said that they were a server and they want people to be very like, do not be bad. You know, I don't have the text in front of me.

Again, we had a lot of response from this kind of stuff, but essentially what they were saying is that never be afraid to tell the server if your food is not what you needed or wanted and not good enough, because they'll get it fixed. And again like they'll I mean, I don't think this is what they were saying, but I believe that if you are like, okay, whatever, I'm just underwhelmed, I'll never come here again.

I don't like it. You may, you may without even really realizing it, take it out on how you tip, but like they can fix that for you. And if they do that and they get it right and everything's you know, aokay, then like they have a better chance to probably get like they can make your experience better. I think you've said this before, but you're the kind of person who doesn't. You don't like to sneak up

on your Food's absolutely not, yeah, and I don't. It's I don't know why I'm like that, honestly because I should, because that would for me. I mean, it doesn't happen often, but when it does, like it kind of I hate saying it ruins it because it sounds very like pretentious. But like I'm gonna say something. I want what I order and you should, you absolutely should. I I just hate feeling as if people

think I'm complaining and like I'm being high maintenance. And whoever this person is the text that texted that in earlier, I'm not sure, ever, buddy in your industry views it and sees it the same way that you do.

But I appreciate you saying that because that that makes me feel more, you know, because me telling them the food is cold or wrong, Like, why in the world would they Why in the world should I think that they're going to be offended by that they didn't make it, you know what I mean, Like they didn't they because you're probably worried that they're going to take it as, Oh, you're you're mad at them, Yeah, but you're

really mad at the way it was prepared. And trust me, I've never once not done it because I fear that somebody is gonna mess with me. Like I'm sure there are people that have that fear, and I trust me, and I don't want to turn this into a conversation where people start sharing stories about what they've heard that somebody will do in the restaurant if you send the food back. But that doesn't even cross my mind because I've always had the mindset, I don't want to see you making my food, like I

don't. I don't wan don't want to know anything I don't want to see like That's why, honestly, for me, like the kudobas and the subways. I don't want to see you making my food. I don't even want to. I don't want to see it in like the big tub of you know, beans that you put on the burrito, like it's just I'm weird like that. I'd rather just you know, have it prepared and then I

eat it like I don't want to. I don't want to see it, but yeah, I mean it. I think I'm gonna make I'm gonna I'm gonna take a stance today here John at five twelve on May sixteenth, I'm now no longer going to be fearful of letting the server know if my food is either wrong, not what I ordered, or under you know, it's it's it's I needed to be remade or something. It'll be a good experiment to see how they react, and you know, the next time it happen,

I'm taking a stand. I'm gonna stand up for myself and you know, actually get what I ordered. Well, you mentioned the whole people being worried about what the cooks might do. I always think of the the Eminem song where he talks about people at Burger Can spiting on your onion room. Isn't that gross? Yes, it's gross, And I wish you wouldn't say that, because like I don't I have always and I don't eat a lot of fast food. I have, you know, fast food or were maybe

not fast food, just at a restaurant. I have always felt like I've done a good I don't want to think about it. I don't want I mean, I don't know if it's a phobia or what it is. But like when I see the cook or something in the bathroom, like even if he's like washing his eg I just that that just I don't know, it just completely sounds like a Howie Mandel type of thing. Yeah, but I'm not like a germaphone. Yeah, you know what I mean, not to

that extreme, but it reminds me of that. Yeah, just a weird thing that I can't really help or explain. But it's it's it's it's one of the many countless things that makes me a weird individual. So yeah, I could read the I mean, I will move on because I'm sure a lot of people don't necessarily care about this kind of stuff. But uh, you know, I'd say it's pretty fifty to fifty as far as people are like, you know, I don't feel sorry for him. Nobody's making them

be servers. They make great money. If you want to get a great tip, then do you know, do great? And then there's there's about the other fifty percent that's like I mean it. I don't think servers want you to see them as like people that are beneath us and like peasants or something like that. To where oh were you kid me? You better typically thirty percent. If you can't afford to do that, then you don't even

need to be going out to eat these people. You know. It's like if we don't tip them thirty percent, they're going to be sleeping in their car that night. That's not how it works. I know people who cannot leave the service industry because it would be a pay cut. There are people who go to college in the entry level positions that they would get after obtaining a degree would be a substantial pay cut in what they make being a full

time server at a restaurant. And I'm not talking about fine dining like five star meals. I'm talking about just your you know, your casual restaurants, like you know, sports bars, that kind of stuff. So like they do well for themselves. Maybe not all of them, and I'm sure there

are times where maybe hey, business was slow for whatever reason. But yeah, the uh and by the way, the one thing that you know and I love, I should have processed it a little because what I like to do when we get a lot of I like to just copy what's coming in and paste it up on my document here. That way I can, I can. You know, it's hard, it's harder to filter through on the

text line. But uh. The majority of the people who chimed in to react to the whole conversation about tipping have have said that, like, you don't like there's like they should not have the receipt, have the tip option when you do carry out at a restaurant. The majority are on on the

same page with us when it comes to that. But then there are some that are like I prepared, Like I mean, I can't tell if they're joking or not, and maybe they're maybe they're being serious, and I'm just you know, somebody that is very much uninformed about your business and in the industry you work in, in what you do. But if you mean like you prepared it as if like you put it in the bag, and it was you know, like to me, that's just wild that you would that

you that you would you know, be tipped for that. But again, what do I know? I never worked in none of those industry tips.

Yeah. Yeah, we had a conversation about some some some well known uh restaurants, businesses, places that you know, you know, you never want to get in trouble and start talking bad about a company or corporation that spends a lot of dollars at iHeart, but it's pretty obvious whenever they're just seeing if you'll do it, you know what I mean, like you just see it if you'll be the sucker, and sometimes just by the pressure of that,

like you know, I've been the sucker. But all right, so real quick, this is actually a pretty easy transition because this is moving to a story about Pat Kelsey that also pertains to a restaurant. So Pat Kelsey's birthday was yesterday and he turned forty eight years old. Hopefully he had himself a really good birthday. He posted last night a picture of him and his parents. I guess mom and dad got together with their son to have a

little birthday dinner. And I would not have known because I have only been there once and I wouldn't have recognized where they are. But a lot of people seemed to recognize right away where he was. And it's a restaurant called Porcini's, and I don't I'm sure there's many that don't understand, like why that's interesting? Why that like what do you like? So what Like that's a known restaurant here in Louisville, an Italian restaurant. I'm sure John doesn't

understand or know why like that would be relevant. And maybe it's not, a lot of time has passed since this happened, but poor Cenis. If you're a Louisville basketball fan, and you are you know, probably I don't know, twenty five, twenty six or older, maybe thirty year older.

When you think of poor Genis, you either just know that it's a really nice Italian restaurant that has been around for a while, that is, you know, popular because people like it, or you know that that's the restaurant that Rick Pittino was fornicating with Karen cipheron and it became like a like it became like I mean that was I mean, we don't need to completely go there. But like that's like, when I think of Porcheni's, I'd be

a liar if I told you. That wasn't the first thing that came to mind for me, because you know all the details, and man Patino, you know, he was under oath, so he had to give all the details. He had to be honest. He didn't want to commit perjury, and he told details that you know, to this day people still make fun of him about one of them being you know, fifteen seconds and the leg and that kind of stuff. But it was on the table or at at Porcini's, So like, I'm not a purv, I'm not a weirdo.

Like that's just not something you typically here. And you know, that was a wild thing that happened many many years ago. And the question I have that only he could answer, does pat Kelsey know that? I kind of

believe he does. But then again, like you know, maybe I'm just trying to overthink it and think that he's trying to be kind of funny, because I don't know if it's just it's just an of all the restaurants then nice restaurants in Louisville for the for Louisville's new basketball coach to go to, who, by the way, is on top of the world. He's absolutely crushing it in the transfer portal, and there's momentum, there's excitement within Louisville

basketball right now. The fans are really energized by his energy. You know, that's that that'd be that to me, that'd be like the ultimate coincidence. So if in fact he did it to like try to be funny, I kind of love it. Right. He's all about the revival, right, so for those who don't weren't active on social media, uh, you know, revive you know r E V I all lowercase and then Ville all caps is like the hashtag slogan that they're using, because that's just you know,

what he decided to go with, right. He did the the He still posts the the Apple Music link to the Zach Bryan album revival any time, Like that's his signal that they get out a recruit. So I don't know, I just put it this way, I'd be shocked if Pat Kelcey like left there last night, posted the picture got home, saw people kind of like referencing the irony here and he had no clue. But again, maybe not right like that was a long time ago, and there's been a

few coaches here since Rick Pattino, So I don't know. Only he could answer it, and he'll never be asked because who would ask him that. But I've been thinking about it today, not about Rick Patino and Karen Cipher on the table, but thinking about does Pat Kelsey know like that, like a lot of people in Louisville know of that restaurant for that. I don't think it's like a shot at Rick. I just, you know, part of me says, well, it wouldn't. The payoff wouldn't be there.

It's not that big of a it's not gonna, you know, as we to talk to it's not gonna give you the laugh out loud effect, but it might make you chuckle and just think like wow. So like the payoff makes me think it really is just some kind of random coincidence. But then again, of all the restaurants in Louisville especially, we have a lot of nice restaurants too, And clearly he's the Louisville basketball coach, and he celebrated his birthday with his mom and his dad. He can you know, there's

a lot of nice restaurants to choose from. But I don't know. I can't be the only one that thought about that. What if he's trying to rewrite the story of poor Chenie and they're you know, give it a new reason to think about it. But here's the thing, like if it just became like, for example, this is a true story, Chris Mack loves roosters. That wasn't just like a rant. Like he loves roosters, and anytime he's in town and I ever meet up with them, we meet it

roosters. He loves roosters, and he was often there. Louisville fans saw him there. They shifted his Coaches show, the Basketball Coaches Show was not at Roosters before he was the coach, So you know, he loves that place. Let's say Porchenies is that for Pat Kelsey. It's not as if like like the people who know are always going to know both things, because it's going to be such a wild thing that how who would have ever thought the Hall of famer who won us a title, the legendary coach, you

know, had an unfortunate situation. You know, obviously he made a mistake and it became very public because the woman was extorting him, and all the details came out, and now a lot of people when they hear about that restaurant, it maybe just for a second or two, but that comes to mind that you know, Patino was, you know, getting it on on the table. Yeah, I mean, is that not the Is that not

like the most you know, the most radio professional. I mean he got he was having the sex on the table at the restaurant doing the d Yeah, I mean yeah. So you know, I think if he wanted to make like that his place, which I'm sure he won't, meaning Kelsey,

I think there's gonna be both. Both things are going to be there, right, like cause that's what it wouldn't be a noteworthy thing, and like why what makes it a thing that people would talk about is the fact that, Wow, of all the restaurants for our new coach to really fall in love with, he picked the one that everybody in the world learned that our coach had sex on the table at said place. Like it's just you know, well, I'm gonna eject here from the conversation because it's just getting weird.

My mom's probably listening and she's thinking, oh, come on, Nick, you're talking about that on the radio today. My mom doesn't sound like that. I'm just I'm just flaming out right now because i feel uncomfortable saying the word fornicating on the radio. But we'll take a break and reset on the other side. Stick with us right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Good stuff here, John, good stuff. All right. So the latest

on the Louisville basketball watch here is that two scholarships are available. I think so. I mean, you mean to see if I see if I can name name everybody again, let's do it. Then I get it right. I feel like we just accept we just decided. I got actually no fact checked me right, like I yes, I was looking at up and I'm not doing it to try to like, oh, you guys, I could name everybody off the top of my head. I'm just it is a little

tough to keep up with because it's not normally yet. Thirteen new guys, and two of them are Red shirts. So we'll start with the the Charleston guys. You've got Rain Smith, James Scott, and then Kobe Rodgers and then Terrence Edwards, Junior, Javon Hadley, Ali Khalifa, Corn Johnson, Cater Trei Ora Chucky, Hepburn Cason who committed earlier this week from South Florida, and then Ruth the freshman. So that's eleven. So there's eleven.

So they got two scholarships left. So right now, either he's on the way here or he's here Noah Waterman. The BYU transfer is I mean, and that would be such a nice pick up. That's a six to eleven guy, six' ten depending on where you look, just gives you another guy that you can play at the five. I think he's more of a stretch four. But you know, I went and watched some highlights from BYU. You know he's he's a guy that you know, shoots at thirty eight

percent from three, average, ten and five. Last year for BYU started every game in the Big you know, for a team that was you know, in the top tier of the or the top you know, top five, I should say, in the Big twelve. So clearly is a guy who can play. But he's not known as like some big you know, interior presence because again he steps out, can shoot it. But he is

a shot blocker. He's I mean, at times he's actually had some really impressive blocks at least from the highlights that I saw, So that'd be a

great pickup. And then if you can get it, and then that last spot, I mean it could be it could be Ugo, who apparently is down to Louisville, Carolina and Alabama, although you know, I don't I don't get the sense that Louisville is prioritizing him just because you know, if you get Waterman, you know, those are two guys that are six eleven and seven foot but totally different types of players too, And that's that's really

what the five has become. Man, you can either be a Hugo who's just a rim protector who stays around the rim and doesn't have a whole lot of offensive involvement in what you do, or you can be a guy like Terman, who is you know, nearly as tall but very skilled and you know probably isn't isn't the athlete with the length, but you know, still has size. So if I had to guess, I would say Waterman. And then after that they may wait and see what happens with Elijah Crawford.

So that's a name you may not have heard before. He is a twenty twenty four class guy who was committed to Stanford, got out of his letter of intent when they made a coaching change, and he's top one hundred ish kind of guy, four star, and he's now kind of starting his process over. And he did say that since his release from his letter of intent, he's heard from Kansas, BYU, Louisville, and Wake Forest among others.

Again an ESPN four star. He's going to visit BYU Monday and then he's going to take other visits to So I actually think that would be the best option. I mean, I wouldn't turn away Hugo if you could add him, just because he does give you some rem protection that you know you probably won't get anywhere else. I mean, he had the longest wing span at the end be a combine. And you know, if there's one thing you feel like you know he would give you that that you won't get elsewhere,

it's shot blocking. But you know, if you play him twenty five minutes a game and he blocks three shots, that's impactful. But you know, he really doesn't do much of anything else other than that. At least

he has it yet throughout his career. So I think if you really look at the personnel right now, I think a point guard would be would be I don't want to say it's a major need, but I think Chuckie Hepburn is the guy who's going to be your point guard, play maybe more minutes than anybody, and I think he's going to be a really nice piece for them. However, you know, you need somebody to give him a break every now and then, or maybe he gets hurt or gets in foult trouble.

And Corn Johnson from Washington can play point, but I think he's more of an off I think he's a guy that's better off the ball and can distribute, but I just think, you know, he's probably more comfortable when he's playing most of his minutes at the two. At least that's what I've gathered. So that thirteen scholarship will probably stay open for a little while. And and this kid, you know, he's a freshman to be so he's

got some time here. If he takes four visits, it could be a little while before he makes a decision, But that is an aime to keep

in mind. Elijah Crawford a six six two point guard who you know is not as highly ranked as Kahani Ruth's but again maybe somebody that could could could give you some spot minutes in his first year, and you know, maybe, And that's one thing that a lot of people bring up like that, are that are negative about the portal like that can't kind of want to act as if it's ruining everything, and I, I, you know, it's changed things. I just choose to embrace it. And as I said,

yet I've said many times, but it was a big time. It was a big talking point yesterday. If Louisell didn't have the portal, of the portal didn't exist, Louisville may still have Kenny Payne. I mean, it's hard to imagine that. And I think deep down they probably still would have fired him just because of how bad he was. But the portal gives you a chance to quickly change things. But you also could lose players that you

wouldn't want to lose. And you know that's I guess the downside. So when people say, oh, who cares, he'll be in the portal next year, Like with Kahani RUPs, he's the eighth best player to ever commit to Louisville when it comes to like recruiting rankings, which is crazy to say, but he is so if he doesn't get a ton of minutes this year, because there's veterans, twenty two year old guys that are playing the bulk of the minutes at his position, he might leave. Because that's that's the

way things are now. And if that happens, you know, it's unfortunate, but that's just the way that it is. So like when people are like, oh, who cares, we'll probably leave next year, I want to be like, why are you, you know, why are you so negative? Why are you the way you are? But like I can't really respond with like any I mean, like I get why you would look at it that way, but again, like I choose to not worry about that,

and you know, until it happens, all right. Kentucky added another player today in the portal, and this one seems too I don't know, maybe I just haven't been plugged into Big Blue Nation, but this seems to be of all the commitments that they've landed from the portal from Mark Pope, this seems to be the one that has gotten the least attention, maybe just because he's not you know, that was picking from a lot of big name schools. At least I don't think he was. But his name is Annsley

Almanor, who was transferring from Fairley Dickinson. A six to seven forward average sixteen points a game last year for Fairley Dickinson and was a starter for the team that knocked off Perdue in that big upset sixteen over the one in the twenty twenty three tournament. So I guess they probably. I wonder how many scholarships they have. I can't name all their guys, and I wouldn't I

wouldn't even want to try. But they've got to be getting closer to They got to be getting closer to getting to thirteen, right, They probably don't have eleven. I'm gonna guess they have nine or ten. Maybe we'll look at it during the break or somebody can help us out on the text line. All right, So yesterday I saw this. This is the first thing I saw when I put when I popped open Twitter on my phone and I was walking to the car here, and it gave me instant excitement than instant

fear. And that is that Happy Gilmour Too, happening with Adam Sandler on Netflix. I think Happy Gilmore might in fact be my favorite movie of all time. There's probably not a movie I can quote word for word as good as I can that one, and I probably wouldn't be able to get you know, I can't. I know that I cannot quote the entire film word for word, but like it's I mean, I've watched that movie probably more

than I've watched anything. There were three movies that just like if I was, you know, if I was laying down in the basement as a kid, or I was you know, going to bed, or I just you know, was bored, I would watch three three movies Dumb and Dumber, Happy Gilmore, Tommy Boy, like those were that was. And occasionally I would watch Teenwolf, but that was only at my grandmother's house. So like if I was there, it was no brain. I was gonna watch it

three times, but I didn't have the VHS. So I love love Happy Gilmore. It's perfect. It's a perfect film for me. But I don't the thought of you know, shoot McGavin and Happy Gilmore running it back and you know, like that would be the nostalgia there. It would get me all in my feels. But I also can say, we don't need this. Haby Gilmore, the original the og can stand on its own, and I can't think of any other movie like Happy Gilmore that nobody would say it's

a masterpiece when it comes to just film. But like, I feel like that movie is really popular with dudes like me, like the Boys, Right. I have a good example, the Coming to America sequel. I feel like that controversial, but that you mean just because they shouldn't have done it? Yeah, yeah, but that movie was that movie was mainstream, like humongous, Haby Gilmore wasn't. I mean, now, I mean I wouldn't. I mean, it was popular for Sandler, but like it catered to

a specific like the bros. Coming to America was like a huge nation why hit you know? And it was it was when I was a little bit of kids. So but yeah, I know, but that's a good example as far as like we don't need this, right, but like you're gonna try to see if you can maybe And a lot of people say that that was good, but like again, you're not going to do better when you know you're not going to do better than the first one? Why do it? You know what I mean? And I don't even know if you know

this, John, They made a Dumb and Dumber sequel. I think I knew that, but I've not seen anything. And by the way they did two they did. They did Dumb and Dumber with I know, Bob Sagett was in it, and it was with two people that I guess were playing like the younger version of of you know, Harry and Lloyd, Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels. And that was so stupid. It was kind of funny.

But then in two thousand and fourteen they they I thought it was gosh, I thought it was more recent than that, but they made the second it's called Dumb and Dumber two. But instead of you know, the number two just had too to kind of you know, play on the name dumb and Dumber. Yeah, and it you know, it was directed by the same people, the Fairly Brothers. It's you know, it's Jim Carrey and

Jeff Daniels, and it just felt super forced and I felt uncomfortable. I love that movie so much that I can't sit here and say that like it's terrible, because it's kind of look, they're different movies, but they're the same thing, right, So like it just wasn't it just was unnecessary and it didn't to me. It didn't get enough national fan fair Like a lot of people probably forget that they made it, which I kind of. I mean, I hope it doesn't work out this way with Happy Gilmour. But

like it's just like we don't need it. You can love it and claim like I do, and I know a lot of people probably don't. But I love that movie, but like it doesn't mean I need a different version of it, you know, Like I just I don't know. I'm worried. But look, Saidler, I'll give him this. He's not gonna half asset like he's not. He's not just doing this for money. He doesn't

need the money. I think he knows that this is one of his more Like again, I think if you're somebody it's around my age, a little older, a little younger like this this movie, it was super powit. I don't want to say it had like a cult following, but maybe it kind of did. But the characters within this movie, I mean happy of course, and then shoot h mcga. I mean, it's just it's it's

special to me and I don't want them to screw it up. It actually started with the teas that was from Shooter McGavin, who, of course you know, his real name is not Shooter McGavin, but that's what everybody knows him as. But Christopher MacDonald is his name, and he he stirred up the rumors about a sequel. I guess a couple of months ago. Whenever. Yeah, here's the quote. I said. I saw Sandler about two weeks ago and he says to me, you're gonna love this. I said,

what he says, how about that? And he shows me his draft of Happy Gilmore too. Maybe you should, uh should cut that out because I don't want to be a liar. I don't want to be a liar. But he did show me that. I thought, well, that would be awesome, So so it's in the works. This is a quote from like an interview he did that it'd be better if I just had the audio, but I don't. But essentially, I guess he hinted at it and then asked for them to remove it because he didn't know for sure if it

was going to happen. But he did run in to Adam Sandler and he showed him a script. So Sandler's writing it like hits his thing, which makes me feel better. But I just I don't know, like I don't want anything in this sequel to make me feel differently about the original. I mean, can you think of movies that they made a sequel in, like you know that that aren't like you know the you know, the Marvel movies that kind of stopped guns a great example, one that was fantastic and universally

acclaimed. Yes, and I mean that is that is the Maybe that's why you know, there's more interest in redoing movies because but that was such a like there are people who watch did you have you ever even seen the original? No? Yeah, I mean have you seen it now? Still? No? Yeah? I mean it's it's it's nice. So in a way, like that's the that's not really a sequel, is it. It's just I was an answer, but I haven't seen it to be able to tell

you. Yeah, it's just like doing the same thing, you know, so many years later for a brand new like that movie came out in nineteen eighty six. That movie is thirty seven years old, like the original, so much older. Will this Happy Gilmore Secretly Happy Gilmore came out I'm gonna guess in like nineteen ninety four, maybe a little bit later, about thirty years old. It came out in ninety six. Yeah, so you know,

not as old, but still gonna be an entirely different audience. And here's the thing, like I'm gonna watch it like there's no scenario where like I'll be out not for me, because you didn't do the White Man Can't Jump remake. But that was a little different. Yeah, well because it wasn't. I mean, it was a I mean it was a Hulu movie with Jack Harlow. I mean like it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't Woody Harrelson and Wesley Snipes. You know what I'm saying, Like it was

a That's true, it was the same. I get what you're saying. It's the dumb and dumber that like nobody even remembers happened because it wasn't. It wasn't Harry and Lloyd. It was two different. It wasn't Jim Carrey and Jiff Daniels. Like you knew you were getting the you know, the generic version like Happy Gilmore Too is gonna be I mean, it's it's Saidler. So maybe a little nervous, but you know, I can tell you this. When it's done, I'm gonna watch it because you know, I

can't not, and I hope that it's great. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side, wrap this thing up on Sports Talk seven ninety. Thank you guys for hanging out with us here on a Thursday afternoon. We're out of time now, but we'll be back tomorrow. I won't be here next week, which, you know, I always get that, like pre travel trip anxiety, you know, like something bad's gonna happen while I'm away, Like you know, John's gonna take over the show

and they're gonna kick me to the curb. You know, hopefully that doesn't happen, but you'll be in good hands. I do know that, and I feel like I'm timing I'm timing this pretty well. I try. You never can control it, but I always try to take my take my vacations whenever I feel as if there's not going to be some big story or event that I want to cover or that I would want to be, you know, around for for years, I would think, well, I'm not this

not an exaggeration. For years, I would think, well, I'm going on a trip, Surely that means louisll is going to get their punishment from the NAA. We're going to figure out, you know, what the actual punishment is and whatnot. So thankfully you know that that that that's over now. So anyways, real quick, one of the things that that I've yet to bring up, and I don't have any time left to get to it, but it sounds like the NBA is is going to be moving their TNT

coverage to NBC, which is scary to think about. What that means is that there's going to be no more inside the NBA. Right. The show that I think is you know, legendary, and then I don't use that word to exaggerate, it's I mean, it's phenomenal. It's better than the NBA action itself, to be honest with you, that's just my opinion. But Charles Barkley has an out in his contract that if Turner does not have NBA A access, like they're not doing NBA games, then he can walk

and go elsewhere. But like that show itself, as far as how it exists, I imagine that's gonna be. I mean, it's it's sad, and like I know, ESPN is the monster, right and they you know, they own everything in sports, but their NBA covered sucks. I mean, Doris Burk's a great analyst, but like she's not I mean, she's not entertaining. She does something that always bothers me. And I don't know why I care. It's just a pet peeve. You don't need to call

every player only by their first name. We're aware that you probably have talked to them and know them, but like it's such a tryhard thing, Like you don't look like you're more connected than you are because you only refer to these players by the first name And then when they go to I mean they go to the halftime coverage instead of you know, getting with T and T. We're getting Chuck and we're getting Ernie and Kenny and those guys in Shack.

You know, we get Michael Wilbond and Stephen A. Smith and you know, Kendrick Perkins, and it's just it's such a letdown from what you get on T and T. And I don't know what NBC would do, but man, the NBA and T and T. I feel like they've been in bed together my whole life. So it sounds like that's actually happening. Bill Simmons has been kind of the leader on reporting these things, and it sounds like Turner will not match what NBC is offered. So sad stuff.

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