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thinking about pros and cons. I would imagine that, even though I'm sure he was really happy at Charleston, having success Charleston, South Carolina, it's apparently a beautiful place to live, I just I would have I just assumed that if he knew he was going to get the offer it was done, he was going to leave Charleston and come to Louisville, because clearly it's a much better job, and really it's a different level. So I bring all that up to say I don't think he was doing a

whole lot of comparing. Well, you know, at Charleston, I've got a beach here, and at Louisville, you know they've got you know, Churchill downs in the Kentucky Derby. But if he did consider those two things, I'm curious if he also considered the thought of him ever being you know, of a horse race, a thoroughbred being named after him, and now he has that, and it seems as if he actually, you know, he's not just appreciative. I think he thinks it's pretty cool, which it is cool. It's

cool as hell. I would love to have a have a you know, a Derby winning trainer name a horse after me, And that's what Kenny McPeak did. So he has a two year old that is the son of Blame and it's named kels k e l Z and it's in his barn in Florida, and it is owned by Louisvillion Craig mackin and named after Louisville hoops coach

Pat Kelsey, which is pretty cool. So I did not I knew Kenny McPeak was a big time Kentucky fan, but I did not know that he has a house divided, meaning his his his wife is a big Louisville fan and she obviously I mean, if you're a Lotle fan, you don't love Pat Kelsey, I think you need to reevaluate some things. But anyways, Pat Kelsey earlier this week was out at the at the track taken in the backside atmosphere, and that came up meaning how he has a horse named after him, and let me see if

I can pull it up here. Let me get the sound for you guys. This is here we go. This is Pat Kelsey from Churchill Downs.

backpack with a bunch of stuff. So we brought half of it for Kenny, half of it for Sherry. So we'll get him wearing a little red. I think we can always turn him around. You never know. All this is just absolutely amazing. Torpedo Anna, which was last year's Horse of the Year, just being in its presence is crazy. You know, you could just tell that that there's something special about it when you're in its presence, but just

all of it. The Kentucky Derby in general is one of the greatest spectacles in American sports and to be a part of it, especially here in the backside, it's really really cool.

good start. Pat Kelsey is there's now a horse named after him, and who knows, maybe maybe one day that'll be a horse that's in the derby. All right, it's Coffee and Company. We are Field Beuth Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you guys hanging out with us, and if you want to take us with you wherever you go you can. You can listen live on the out radio WAP. Also listen live at seven ninety Louisville

dot com. So One of the things that has come up quite a bit really over the last couple of years is lawsuits being filed against the NC double A, everyone seemingly challenging the NC double A and seeing if you know, the courts judges will in fact let the NC double A still continue to operate things the way they have for forever. And the NC double A has had a whole lot of losses when it comes to these battles in court, so much so that they really

kind of stopped fighting. I mean, just to give you an example, the blanket waiver that everybody who played Juco got was because they just knew that, hey, anybody who fights this just liked Diego Pavia, the Vanderbook quarterback, like they're gonna they're gonna they're gonna lose, meaning INT will lose. But they did get a win today, and it feels like this is a first time in a long time that that the NCAA can say they were challenged in

court and they won. I mean, I suppose there could be victories out there for them, and I just you know, maybe that's just not as highly highly publicized. But if you remember former Kansas guard Mario Chalmers, along with a

bunch of other former college athletes. They filed a k They filed a lawsuit against the NCAA basically claiming that that that for some reason I've yet to really understand why, but twenty sixteen on, if you played college basketball or played college sports, you can opt into this settlement because from twenty sixteen on, you know, and you didn't get a chance to play in the nil era, you can.

You can join in on the commun There's a settlement that that's going to pay out an insane amount of money and I don't know how much is going to be given to each each person that joins in on the lawsuit. But Mario Chalmers, of course played in the NAA long before twenty sixteen, and again he along with others, decided to sue the NCAA, saying why should we not also be cut in on this settlement? And without knowing the real specifics of it, I just know that the

NC DOUBLEA ruled in favor. I'm sorry that that the courts ruled in favor of the NC DOUBLEA. Yeah, Front Office Sports had a little update on it earlier, and let me just make sure I gueah so says he

this is from This is from Front Office Sports. They mentioned a federal judge dismissed the Chalmers versus nc DOUBLEA case and it's Chalmers along with fifteen former football and men's basketball players, and they argued that former college athletes from the nineteen nineties in early two thousands deserved damages for not being able to capitalize on aniol. So again, I don't know what because I've always asked that same question, like why why would you be entitled twenty sixteen on

but not prior to that? It doesn't make any sense to me. What is different about players that were not able to make money off their name, image, and likeness in twenty eighteen compared to nineteen ninety eight. So I just expected the NCAA to lose here, and if they did, I would have assumed that that meant like their existence is really in danger, because if they won this case, it would mean everybody is going to be lining up

to get paid, and I mean everybody. And I don't even know if they would have the I mean, could they even pay, Like think about this, and again it's not happening, it seems like but if this was success, again, I'm sure there's In fact, I know that there's a lot to it that I'm unaware of, but I've yet to hear any specific reason as to why the federal judge said, you know, the case was dismissed, because again, as I just mentioned, I don't understand why you'd be

entitled to damages in twenty eighteen but not you know, two thousand and eight in previous But that'd be there'd be everybody who ever played college athletics would be lining up and joining in on this, and there's just not is there enough money in the world to pay out these these athletes if that was, if that, you know, if the lawsuit was successful. So anyways, just thought that was worthy of an update. A rare w, a rare

win here for the NCAA. All right, let's go to the text line five oh two four three eight ninety seventy three. Again, five O two four three eight ninety seventy three is the number if you guys would like to text in. This text comes in from Kenny, who says, Nick, just curious which transfer for Louisville this year? Do you think will be the most important piece meeting? Who has to be really good for this team to be a

second weekend type team. Well, I don't think you have to have like an elite player to be like a second weekend kind of team. But let's just say. You know, because right now, if you look at the early rankings for next season in college basketball, and there's many of them out there, and some of them do vary, they're not all super consistent, but Louisville is viewed from anywhere like top five to top fifteen, and maybe you'll find some that have like I think John Rosstein has them like

twenty something. So I would say if they're gonna be a team that you feel like, okay, in year two of Pat Kelcey, you feel pretty good about being able to get a really good seed despite the ACC maybe not being loaded, and you know, if you feel like you're a team that could get to a final four if some things fall your way and you're looking at maybe like a top four to five seed in the NCAA tournament. As far as the player that is like most important, well, I guess i'll answer your question. You

ask which transfer. So as of right now, there's just three of them, and I'm sure they'll add they'll add others. I don't know when that'll happen or if they're going

to be big names. But I would say it's tough, and I hate to give you like a cop out answer because you know, like I, this is something I hadn't really thought about, and here I am on the spot and I can't really I mean, I think the guys that you added specifically from the transfer portal, you know, I it's not necessarily one guy that you're sitting here thinking, Okay, this guy is just he's going to be able to

take us to a different level. He's different, He's got, you know, uber talent compared to the rest of the roster. He can do things that nobody else can. I just don't think that's that that that's that's the scenario here with these three guys. So Ryan Conwell from Xavier, a good shooter, veteran, played a lot of college basketball, combo guard, more more of a two guard. I mean, he's gonna

play off the ball. Isaac McNeely, I mean he's more of just a flat out shooter, a guy that was right behind Rain Smith when it comes to three point shooting in the ACC. In fact, I think he shot a better percentage, but he made I mean, he was second in three point field goals made in the ACC

outside of rain Smith, so good company there. And then with Adrian Woolley, you know, he was a superstar freshman at a low level of Division one at Knnessas State, but he put up huge numbers and was you know, really really special and clearly he proved right out of the gate he was a lot better than the level he was playing at. So I mean, I think of all three of those guys bring really the same, Like, like, there's no way Woolley averages the same amount of points

that he did at Kennesaw State here at Louisville. I guess it's possible. But like, these three guys, like they're not even going to need to be doing as much here at Louisville as they did at their previous school because I think all of them are now joining a better situation. So of the three transfers, all are going to be important. But I'm on the spot here, and yes I'm spinning my wheels because I don't really know.

I mean, and also, if if you'd that's the question and we were in the previous world and it was based mostly off of freshman that's a little bit easier to answer. But like these guys, I mean, I guess there's a scenario that they don't really translate. But like Isaac McNeely, he played in the ACC, so he can do what he was able to do at Virginia, put up big numbers playing against you know, a good schedule. I have no reason to think that like, he won't

be able to do that here. In fact, I think he's going to be in a system that fits him even better to where he might really have a I mean, think about this. He put up the numbers he did in Virginia playing Virginia style basketball in a system that Pat Kelsey has. This guy, I mean, he's going to get a lot of great looks and if he continues to be the really good shooter he's been his entire college career, that's going to be a good recipe for Louisville.

So with conwell, you know, at Xavier, I'm not worried about will his production from the Big East carry over to the ACC. I mean, he was an All ACC performan. I'm sorry he was an All Big East performer and lasted. I mean, Big East is a better league than the ACC.

So I mean, I think of these guys, I mean, with your question being a little bit, you know, who's most important When you ask it that way, I'm thinking, all right, who do we really need to make sure they bring what they what they produced at their previous school. But I just don't really think that's much of a question.

Like if if Ryan Conwell and Isaac McNeely are unable to really kind of you know, fond footing and do the same kind of things they were doing at their previous school, I'd be highly surprised because I actually think they're going to be in a system now that better suits what they can do, meaning play fast, get good looks and transition and you know, make three shoot threes. I mean that's what that's what pack Kelsey wants to do.

So I guess, woolly, I feel like if he does have a little bit of an adjustment, right, instead of averaging nineteen a game, let's say he's only averaging seven or eight. Like, I don't think that'd be the the world, because he's not going to be needed to score as many points he's did at Kennessas State. But I will say, you know, if he does, if he's if he's a guy that adjusts nicely, and you know, you get to mid January and he's like your second leading scorer, averaging

like thirteen or fourteen games something like that. I would say that that's huge, meaning you know, you didn't just bring up a guy who was pretty pretty damn good at that level. You brought up a guy that is you know, still able to you know, score at a pretty high level. So I guess I would say woolly just because there's more of an unknown there, Like I expect him to be solid, but you know, but there's also a chance that he could really thrive by playing

around better players. Now this isn't the question that you asked, but I think the guy who really is the potential difference maker for Louisville is case In Pryor, just because you know, last year in four or five games, however, man, it was that he played like you could see that he's got he's got something that Louisville was able to kind of, you know, live without because they still had

a good season. But there's plays that Cason made that really there's nobody else on the team that was capable of making those plays. Maybe CANi Russ just because of the similar build and athleticism. But if Cason's fully healthy, and you know, you've got a good three point shooting team like you you know, seemingly have, He's just going to have a lot of opportunity to slash and maybe knocked. I mean, he shot a lot of threes last year. In fact, he shot more than I would have wanted

to see him shoot. But and he didn't shoot a great percentage. But I mean he could benefit from the opposing teams just having to worry so much about Louisville's perimeter, and you know, he could he could really take advantage of that. So like, if Cason is I guess the guy that we hoped he would be last year prior to the injury, just an athletic, versatile guy that can rim,

you can rimp protect for, you can play above the rim. Also, you know, if you've got a big guy guarding him, I mean that's a mismatch because yeah, Casein's I guess considered a front court player. But he's got a good handle, he's pretty quick. So to me, Prior, like you know, Louis could still be really good. If Prior's just you know,

like Louisvill could have a really put it. Let me put it this way, louisvill could have a really good team that looks like they have a chance to you know, get a good seat and make a Final four if their strength is more so based off of a collection of good players than maybe one or two guys that are just you know different, like last year, especially when the injuries took place to Cason and de Koran Johnson, I mean, Chucky Hepburn became an All American and you

needed that. Without Chucky being you know, as great as he was, you know, Louisville still would have won plenty of games, but obviously he was he was special. Rain Smith at times was special just because he could get

hot and change the game in a big way. So, you know, I don't that's one of the benefits of really bringing back some good pieces like Hadley pryor can I You've got Khalifa and Rogers that are that are going to be healthy and ready to go, Mickel Brown, the freshman All American, and then Sonny Frew, who's kind of not really a mystery, but you know he's somebody none of us had ever heard of until he committed.

And you look at what he's doing over there in his pro league, and you know, you've got to be excited. So I think this could be a team where depth and really just having you know, a lot of good players could really benefit you and that could be your strength.

But who knows, maybe you have that, But there's a couple of guys that really are I guess, you know, difference makers, Guys that the opposing team knows it's going to be a long night for them because they don't really have somebody to totally, you know, match what you have with a case in pryor so that that's more so what I mean when it comes to that. But

good question, because clearly you got me stumped. I'm probably talking in circles here, but I would say Woolley is is a guy that I think if he is close to what he was doing last year Atkennesesau, that could really be a big, big I mean, it could be a special thing for Louisville. But I don't really think

there's like a lot of pressure. I think you got good pieces to where there's not any newcomer coming in where you're like, man, this guy doesn't give us XYZ, We're in trouble and honestly, when the injuries took place last year, that's what you were worried about, right, I mean, you knew that Hadley had to become what he became if you were going to have a chance of being a good team. He did that. You knew that Terrence Edwards really had to step up because he wasn't playing well.

And now Korn Johnson's not coming back at all. Chucky had to really kind of, you know, take on the role of Hey, I got to at times maybe put this team on my back, and I've got to be one of the best defensive players in the country. But also, you know this tribute and score sixteen seventeen a game. All right, don't go anywhere, keep it locked right here. It is Coffee and Company. We are fueled by Porton's

right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. You know, there are a lot of things in life that we just never see coming. And I think Bill Belichick's current situation is one that I think you'd have a hard time finding anybody that would tell you that, Yeah, it's not that surprising that you know, at his age he's dating somebody that he's young enough to be his granddaughter and it's not that surprising. I always thought he would come

back and coach in college at North Carolina. I mean again, I think everybody is well aware that you know, nobody saw this coming. Imagine telling somebody even two years ago that Bill Belichick would be in the situation that he's in right now. But this one is an extreme level of like, no, I'm just just stop for a moment and think about what you would have said to somebody two years ago that would that would have told you that Belichick would be where he is right now. You

would not believe it. You wouldn't see a scenario where it was possible. But it's real. There's a lot of things in life, and you know, as really in the life really since the pandemic, I feel like since twenty sixteen, really, I guess more than anything, there's just like is this real? Is this is this life? This can't be real? And the Belichick situation is certainly one of those. It's coffee and company. Where feel about Thorton's here on Sports Talk

seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us. So the interview that Belichick did over the weekend, I don't know when the interview actually took place, but it was aired on CBS on Sunday, and I mean, yeah, it was CBS Mornings, and I mean it was beyond weird. And I'm sure by now a lot of you have heard about how awkward it was, and I mean it was so cringe and uncomfortable, Like I couldn't listen to it in its entirety. But for those who you know, don't

know the overall, you know, the overall story. Here Belichick did an interview and I guess it was just to you know, promote his book, talk about his life now, and when asked about his situation with his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson, who is twenty four years old, you know, it just seemed to me, I'll just give you my thoughts. And I'm not saying that this is, you know, what I believe, because I don't know how the hell this whole thing came together. But I don't I don't believe it's real.

And I'm not saying that like they're not together. I think that this is like an arrangement where she's benefiting from this and he is too, But like, are they actually an item? You know, the heart wants what the heart wants, but I just I don't believe that they're a thing romantically or maybe you know, I just maybe it's just something I don't want to believe because it's kind of gross, and there's nothing wrong with saying that,

is there. I mean, Bill Belichick is how old? I mean, I mean he's at least yeah, I was gonna say's at least seventy. He's seventy three years old, and she he's twenty four. I mean, live your life, do what you want. I would say no judgment, but I think i'd be lying because, like I think, if you're a seventy three year old man, I mean, I don't know where I'm going to be at seventy three, but like, I just would feel insanely uncomfortable with somebody that much

younger than me, at least I think I would. I don't know. Maybe at Bill's age, I'll be thinking differently, but I mean him coaching in college is even a odd thing that I just don't know why Carolina decided to do that. But the girlfriend thing has become an issue to where like, maybe he's not coaching Carolina because TMZ is reporting that they're kind of I don't know

if they're weirded out by it or what. But I mean the reports that TMZ had claimed that they're starting to grow concerned as far as like her involvement because I don't think she's actually on the staff, but like if you've seen some of some of the footage from the SPOR practices and I'm not sure if it was a spring game or what it was, but you know, like she's out there almost like running the show and I don't know where she would be qualified to do that,

and like it just it seems really weird. But where it got real weird in the interview was that it's almost as if the guy that was asking the questions maybe he had a hunch that the story that she had shared long ago when it first became a story that they were an item. She said they met on a plane, And when when asked again, how did you guys meet, I mean again, I feel like it was almost kind of like a setup because it's well docted, because that's the first question everybody asked, how the hell

this happen? How did these two become an item? And the story that she had shared long ago was that they met on a plane and they just started, you know, small talk, and you know, then they became I guess romantically involved, and one thing led to another, and now they're dating boyfriend and girlfriend. I mean imagine bringing Hey, I'm gonna bring my boyfriend home. But I just want you guys to know he's a little bit older than me. And then she rolls in with Bill Belichick, who's again old.

Bill Belichick is probably old enough to be her parents' parents, right, I mean seventy three and twenty four. So anyways, when asked on the interview about where they met, that's why I feel like it seemed like a setup, because that guy in that situation doing that interview, I wish I knew his name, but I don't he would know, like he would know how they met, because that's that's pretty

well documented. And if you're gonna interview Bill Belichick and you know clearly one of the things you're gonna ask about is his girlfriend, you're you know, you're gonna know that. But he, you know, he presented it as if he didn't know that, or maybe it wasn't true, but he said, how did you guys meet? And then instantly she said, we're not going to talk about that. We're not we're

not going there. And then now TMZ reports that the interview was actually way worse and you know, just uncomfortable than what was shown on television because they had to take a break because she stormed out and she you know, was expecting him to follow her out, and I guess ask what was going like why she was upset he didn't do that, I mean, and then when they were asking him questions about his they're asking him questions about his his social media stuff that he's involved in, like

where he's got pictures doing yoga with her. I mean, either he's a really good I mean Belichick again, a lot of things that just make no sense at all, and you just think there's no way that's true. More often than not, it's not true. Do you all think Bill Belichick's out here posting photos of him doing yoga poses with his twenty four year old girlfriend like that? That just doesn't compute. So I think what's happening here?

And he kind of said it without saying it, that he's always about doing what's the best for him and his you know, his career, his situation, and I think having a twenty four year old girlfriend at the age of seventy four or twenty three or seventy three is like him showing people that despite being old, he's still with it. He's still he's actually young at heart, because here he is out here, you know, posting stuff on

the Gram like twenty year olds do. I mean, I don't know just if you're getting Bill Belichick in your North Carolina, I feel like you you know, you this Bill Belichick, this guy who's you know, letting seemingly a twenty four year old kind of run the program, do everything, but you know, actually coach the x's and o's. That's that's what she's allegedly doing. Like you're not getting You're not getting the guy that would be worth hiring if

that's the Bill Belichick you're getting. Also, I think things that you really really need to be able to do as a college coach right now that have become really important in this new world of nil on the transfer portal, I feel like Belichick is the least compatible coach. He's not relatable. I mean people were selling like, well, hey, he's actually it's now pro football because you know, you got transfers like free agents, and you know you got

to pay players, so you know, it's actually perfect. No. I mean, you think college kids are gonna be able to relate to Bill Belichick. You think they're going to be able to be able to pick up the phone and call him and talk about like something going on in their life or like make a connection. Like Bill Belichick seems like the least approachable person ever. Even guys who played for him that probably loved him because they had a lot of success together, they probably feel like

they've never had a real conversation with the guy. He's like a robot, a football robot. So, like, everything about this made no sense to me. Again, on the surface, you're thinking, well, you got a chance to go hire a dude who won a bunch of Super Bowls. Why the hell would you not do it? From that aspect

only it makes sense. But think about how much everything has changed in college sports, and if the NFL doesn't think Belichick can relate to players and build a staff and succeed in the you know, in the current time, what makes you think he's going to be able to

do it in college like he might? You know, maybe he is the guy that just has so much respect as a football coach that he will still be able to run things the way that old coaches used to run it whenever guys would never leave because they couldn't transfer. I mean, it seemed like even Bill Belichick ran his pro, ran his franchise in the NFL much more like a

you know, like a like a dictator. Then then, you know a lot of guys are players coaches now, right, Like you got to be able to relate these NFL players. They know they're making millions of dollars, they're making more than you. They know that they are more valuable to the franchise than you are as a coach. So therefore, like you got to be able to relate, the players got to be able to respect you. Belichick, you know, he did it the old school way and it worked

for a really long time until it didn't. So I've always felt like it just none of this makes sense when you really consider how much has changed for both Belichick and you know, football, college football specifically. But now you throw in this weird element of this girlfriend, who is you know, I guess already worrying North Carolina about her involvement and it being a little much. I mean, I doubt they'd make a move and fire him, because that would be you know, that would make him look really,

really bad. But yeah, TMZ is now reporting that the disastrous CBS interview was even worse than what we saw because they had to cut thirty minutes from it and she'd stormed out in the middle of it and expected Bill Belichick to follow her, and I guess he didn't. Then he realized he probably should have. And yeah, just I mean, first of all, like why would they even connect, why even do the interview? And I guess it's to

promote a book. And I'm sure that like he probably you know, as far as whoever's publishing this book that he's talking about, Like, I'm sure there's an agreement that if you're if we're going to do this, and we're going to be the publisher for your book, and you've got to be a part of the promotion because we need to sell books. But like having her off to the side in the shot, like she probably didn't know she was in it, but she's standing off to the

side or sitting, I should say. And you know, they do some wide angle to where you can actually see some behind the scenes production equipment, like you know, the full setup of the interview, and it's because they realize we may have something here, like we're supposed to be talking about to Belichick about his book, but like this, this, this is spicy. Let's let's get her in the shot

too and see what happens. And didn't take long for her to yell, we're not talking about that, which now makes everybody assume that the story about how they met was a lie. And you know, she didn't even want to go down that path because then she would be

caught in her lie. Here's here's what I think we'll find out more before it's all said and done, as far as like this whole situation, how it came about what the real like, what the real benefit is for Belichick here, and what the real benefit is for her? I guess for her it's relevance money, and for Bill I mean yeah, I mean, I'm sure guys in the seventies, in their seventies wouldn't mind having a twenty year old

attractive woman twenty something year old. She's twenty four, so she's not twenty, but twenty something year old to come home to and spend some time with. Like it's probably a dream to certain guys. But like a real relationship boyfriend, girlfriend, Like it's just, you know, it doesn't make sense. And usually when things don't make sense to this level of not making sense, there's way more to it, and I

think eventually we're gonna find out more. Also, there's some that claim that this could be like elder abuse, to where she's just taking advantage of an old guy with a bunch of money who's trying to just you know, like Belichick probably doesn't have any social I mean, maybe there's something we don't see on TV. But like I mean, Bill Belichick to me was an absolute robot that had no emotion, no, I mean no life to him. And

I don't say that to insult him. That's probably a pretty mean thing to say, you have no life to you, But like think about it, think about you know, what we saw from Bill Belichick and what we got out of Bill Belichick for twenty plus years. Now. I know there's always the well, we don't really know these people. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes in their life. We just see them on TV coaching, of course, But I'm willing to bet that Belichick, what you see

is what you get. Like, I don't think there's some some wildcat that's just you know, lively and full of energy and always running around with twenty something year old women. It's just very odd, very weird at least, you know, that's my opinion. Maybe there's some guys in their seventies right now thinking, hey, why don't you shut the hell up?

as far as you know, in Frankfurt. But actually, you know, us being able to go and make a wager, that was it actually hasn't even been two years, I think because of the explosion that we've had with sports betting not only being you know, a big talking point you got to keep in mind. For a long time, it wasn't you know, not only it wasn't legal, but like mentioning spreads or talking of sports gambling in national sports conversation, meaning like college basketball, NFL, NBA, like it was just

unheard of. It was looked at as dirty and sly me and now you can't watch any sports without seeing that these professional leagues are you know, clearly in bed with with these sports books and everybody's making a lot of money. So I've been a big fan of sports gambling for a long time, meaning I just I mean, I guess, can you be a fan of it? I mean, I guess you can, But like what I mean more so than just I'm a fan, like go sports betting.

I just enjoy it. I've advocated for it. I think it is and I think we're seeing the proof that it gives an added level of entertainment to watching sports that wasn't there. And I mean I think those who think, you know, it's just a waste of a bunch of money and that it becomes a big problem and people become gambling addicts and they gamble, gamble their life away. I mean that I'm sure there are some people that

have done that. In fact, I know that there are that there are people that have done that, But like if they're going to do it regardless right. I mean,

so I'm glad that sports gambling is now legal. I think it's it's really helped the industry that I'm in because when it comes to you know, content like this sports content that's on the radio, that's on a podcast, that's on television, you know, regardless of rooting interest, if people are interested in sports betting and you're talking about the action, you're talking about picks and analyzing games and whatnot, like, that's just that's inner that that's content that can you know,

people are going to be interested in, which you know, let's go check. That's a big part of what all this is. So I say all that to say that if in fact, there is a change made here at the college level with player prop bets, I totally understand it, totally get it. And you know, I'm not out here advocating that they make a change, but if they did, it really should be something that we should not be surprised by. So the NUAA has recently renewed and expanded

their partnership with a company called Genius Sports. They are a data provider and in this in this renewed partnership, they want to and by the way, what this company does is they provide real time statistics to sports books, and you know, just think about levels and layers of statistics that you probably didn't even know existed. But in this new deal where the n s DOUABA again is going to give business to Genia Sports, they want them to have these sports books agree to ban player based

props in college sports only. So this is what the n SAA is doing to try to eliminate, you know, prop bets based on individual individual performances because of obvious things that have happened. I mean, I don't know if we've had full on like charges to college basketball players, but obviously the Javante Porter situation in the NBA, I

mean that whole gambling ring. You know, they had their they had their hands on a lot of stuff, including college basketball players that were in on helping their team either cover or not cover or you know, maybe making sure that they didn't get over the rebound number total

that was set out there. So under this new agreement, sports books must also share data with the NCUBLEA meaning like the geolocation and device records, so they'll have a better ability to track if their college athletes are in fact gambling, which you know, they're not allowed to do so if you really think about it, player props in college, I mean, I don't know, I guess to say that it shouldn't be allowed. I don't mean, who am I

to say? But I just think you really run a risk of college athletes doing this more so than pro athletes. Now again, there have been pro athletes that have you know, a weekly because there's there's there's the example of Javonte Porter, who was already you know, he's in the NBA, but he's not a big time god that's got you know, a crazy contract with so much money guaranteed. But still you know, he's making an NBA an NBA salary. Therefore he's making a lot more more money than the average person,

and he just got greedy and he was stupid. But there's also guys that do it not because they want to make money. They actually just enjoy it and then they realize, yeah, we'll make an example out of you. Calvin Ridley was just gambling for fun like you and I do on the NFL, but you know he wasn't supposed to do it, so he got suspended for an

entire season. So you know, like there's there's all kinds of examples of guy's doing it just because they're they're being stupid and they're in they're just you know, not realizing, hey, I know you probably want to bet, but you can

because you know you're actually in the NFL. And then there's guys like Javonte Porter who didn't need the money, but just you know, probably tried to get greedy, realizing hey, I could probably get involved here and and you know, maybe end up taking more money from the sports books than the NBA paying me. So at the college level, you do have guys now that are making millions because

of nil. But when I saw the list of schools that were believed to be involved, meaning there's connections, meaning the those those gambling on the Javante Porter stuff, they that those same those same people that got caught, they were also gambling large amounts of money on random college basketball games from places like you and C A and

T or not. Yeah, North Carolina A and T, Florida A and M. And those are probably the most vulnerable types of student athletes that would that would maybe more so now than ever, feel like they'll risk it because they're they're not making money like guys are at the high level, and if nobody was making money, then maybe they would say, yeah, that's stupid, I'm not going to

do that. But when they know that, like you know, a couple of conferences up there, there's guys making full time salaries that are you know, six figures, and they're and they're making probably very little because again they're playing at the lowest level of D one, there could be some envy and that might make them say, you know, what the hell with it, Yeah I will, I will shave some points, I will cook the books if you will, and make sure that my my props, you know, they

don't go over or under, so we can we can you know, cash in big time. And they're not the ones who was actually I mean, I don't think they were the ones actually making the bets, but they were clearly doing it and letting you know, the the gambling ring connected to Javonte Porter in that group, they were letting these athletes know, hey, make sure you don't get eight rebounds or make sure you lose, or make sure

you win you don't win by too much. And I'm sure they were getting a cut of that in some former fashion. So you know, there's always going to be when you have gambling legal, even if it's not legal. I mean, keep in mind, before gambling was legal in as many states as it is right now. As far as sports gambling, you still have stories of college players getting involved with bookies and doing things for you know,

cause it's sports books out in Vegas. Like it's there's always going to be a threat of it happening, regardless if it was legalized the way it is now or not. But I think as long as you continue to make examples out of everybody, then that's the best chance. I mean, that's the best chance of keeping people from realizing, yeah, I could ruin my life by making this really dumb in the moment decision just to make some money. And again, money's powerful thing. Money makes people do things that you

know they probably would never do. But man, a big

payday is enticing to people. So this is one that you know, I'm not saying, hey, you need to get rid of it, but if they do, I think it would make sense to a lot of us, because that, I think is where you really see some vulnerability with players realizing, Okay, I'm not getting paid like these guys are in the acc I need to cash in now because you know, when I leave, I won't be walking away with a bunch of money in the bank like players at the college level that are playing at the

highest level. All right, stick around, We've got plenty more to get into. And you know, why would you go anywhere? You're with us right here, it's coffee and company. Fil but Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety