It's time for coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee Hour number two. Here on a Wednesday afternoon, Coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's Nick Coffee. That's me the company man, John Alton alongside today and let's just get right into it. So tomorrow is the big day because well it's the first big day. There's many big days coming up as Pat Kelsey will have many visitors. So let's see here
tomorrow. The biggest visitor in regards to just you know name and you know potential impact is Jayden Acquaintance, who again the number eight ranked player in the country. And I'm not really sure if Louisville fans have much of I mean, I think clearly this would be huge if they could get him. I don't know if they're I mean, I guess they've got a chance, but it sounds like everybody still assumes that Arkansas will be the school that he ends
up at, and they've got resources. Money's clearly going to be a factor here. So I don't want to get anybody's hopes of But you know, Pat Kelsey, I don't think there's any pressure here, because you know, this wouldn't be a bad look on him if he can't land the number eight player, who I'm sure he's had no level of communication with until he became
available, But will be huge, no doubt. But if you could get if you could get a quaintance, again, there's a lot of There's a whole lot that would come with that, right because without knowing at all what kind of an impact this guy would have next year as a freshman, which if he's the guy that ever, another thing that makes him unique is that
because he's so young. He's sixteen years old as of right now, so he actually would have to play not two years in college, but he cannot enter the draft until twenty twenty six, So you know, maybe he would be a guy that'd be really good for you in his second year, but in his first year he's kind of a freshman cutting his teeth. But it's still an impact guy. The buzz, the brand boost, the notoriety that
you would get from Pat Kelsey a few weeks on the job. Landing a five star recruit who's a top ten player that was committed to Kentucky like that would be massive, But as far as just like knowing, and I guess you really never truly know. But a guy that you feel more, I guess sure of that is going to give you a lot of production right out of the gate. There's another guy visiting who I believe his name is uh Baobakar Trey Orr. He's transferring from Long Beach State, and they're both visiting.
So you know, we've got six y nine center freshman phenom, sixteen year old kid essentially in acquaintance. But then Treyor, who is at Long Beach State. You know, he's a guy that averaged twelve points, eight and a half rebounds, four and a half assists, shot fifty two percent from the field. He's more of a forward guy. I think he had three triple doubles during his most recent season at Long Beach State. So he's visiting as well, and like, that's a guy that honestly would probably give
you more production in year one. But I think people would much more prefer getting the shiny five star recruit because they know what it would do for and people care about that stuff, right, Perception is reality. If Pat Kelsey is believed to be a guy that you know right out of the Gate is crushing it at this higher level when it comes to recruiting. That can only help him. That didn't mean he's going to get every player, but like I get it. And for those thinking, like, what are you talking
about a transfer from Long Beach State who averaged thirteen points a game? You'd rather have that guy than a five star top ten player will, haven't we learned that, like, not all of these guys are I mean able to give you a big boost right out of the gate. Now, maybe with good coaching and early development, they can be impact guys to an extent and
with a quaintance. It's just different because he's going to probably play two years in college, so you know, it's not if he's not great for you in year one, you would hope that by year two he could be. You know, I mean, this is a guy that, in all honesty, I would be willing to bet if there's a twenty twenty six mock draft out there, which I don't know if there is, I'm sure there is somewhere, Like he's probably towards the top, so you know, any both
of these guys would be huge. I would take both of them, and I'm going to be just as excited regardless, because I think both those guys can really play. So those are two guys that are visiting tomorrow, and I think Louisville's in really good shape with Trey or from Long Beach State with Quaintance. I just have a hard time thinking that he won't visit other schools, and I just I'd still say that your the best bet is that it's going to be Arkansas who lands him. But we'll see. Pat Kelsey's going
to get a chance to sell. And I think we learned the day we met this guy, you know theoretically that he can sell. And I don't know if this is going to happen or not. But the Boogie Flann recruitment, so I talked about at the beginning of the show for those who missed it, Boogie Flann decommitted from Kentucky, was let out of his letter of intent, and he said he's starting completely over he and I don't know if
he means that, if he just wants to hear. In fact, I do feel comfortable in saying that by him saying that, I'm sure he has an idea of which schools he's really going to consider and which schools he's really interested in. But by him saying he's starting all over is a chance for him to see who's got a lot of money. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're shopping him for like one million dollars as a freshman, which I mean if Trey or not Trey or I'm sorry, Bala that's his name right
for Indiana. Yep. The asking price for him was believed to be one point two million. Apparently Indiana got him for eight hundred k. I mean, if you're getting that guy who is two time All Pac twelve first team, I mean, just a walking double double, you're not getting booge. And by the way, Boogie Flann is a four star in one service. And I'd love Boogie Flann because he's a really dynamic guard who a lot of
people think will play in the NBA someday. You know, streaky shooter, but a good point guard that can you know, make plays create he I mean, I guess somebody. I mean, he's worth that if somebody will give it to him. But this is I mean, I don't know. I just to me as much as I understand, it's not really my business
what these players make. It's nobody's business. I just wish we had a feel because when you hear of a player, because I was asked by two different people who cover recruiting today, like, hey, Boogie Flann his his uh and trust me, they're they're not asking me because they think I know anything about recruiting. But Boogie Flann's you know, people agency whatever. I
don't know if it's if it's his handler's parents, whoever. They want a million for him, and they're asking me, do you think Louisville could pay that. I have no clue. I have no clue, and I think they will pay to get players, but I don't. I just can't imagine anybody would give him a million dollars. But again, what do I know, right, you know, no clue. So if he visited, that would be great, and I don't know if he will. And by the
way, I guess that probably was something I should have mentioned earlier. There's a belief that he may visit either tomorrow or Friday. Don't know if that's for sure going to happen, but we'll see. And then the other visitors they get here Friday. Boopy Miller from wake Forest, a really productive guard that was one of wake Forest had a really balanced attack this year, but he was part of that. I think they had like four guys averaging around
fifteen points a game. He was one of them. So he's going to visit. And then the other visitor Corin Johnson from Washington, So I was not real familiar with him until the last few days. I don't know of
a connection. I don't really know what has led to this. But everybody who does the predictions, the Crystal Balls or the Rivals Cast, I don't know if I'm missing any of the other branded predictions that they use at these recruiting services, but there's people that believe he will be He's going to commit to Louisville. So he was a freshman last year, I'm sorry he will
be a junior this upcoming year. Averaged about seven points a game in twenty minutes per game as a as a as a true freshman, and this past year as a sophomore, averaged eleven points. Shot right around right around forty percent from three. He's a six to two guard and only played twenty four minutes per game, which is you know, that's playing time. He's not somebody buried on the depth chart. But that's a pretty productive stat line for
those minutes. So again, he will visit on Friday, and those that are making predictions on commitments are predicting that he will end up coming the Louisville. We'll see and then the others or the other I should say, on Saturday, Trey Townsend will visit. Anybody remember that name. Trey Townsend's a ringing a bell for anybody? Is that Oakland? That's Oakland. So it was Goldkey who got all the love and deservedly, so I mean we're talking
about it. I mean I'll remember Goldky forever. In fact, like that'd be a good like they might be my fantasy football team name next year, Goldkie forever. You like that. It's costs creative, right, But he he's he was Oakland's best player, not even close. Golkie, if you remember, came off the bench and you know it was a D two transfer
and really didn't do a whole lot. I mean, he was a good shooter, decent player, but you know, his best game he ever played in college was when he was on the biggest stage, which is just crazy. But Trey Townsend was Oakland's best player, averaged about eighteen points eight boards, three assists, you know, really good player for that level. Cool story too, because he walked on at at Oakland and slowly but surely got
better and ended up. I mean, he this is a guy who I'm pretty sure in four years he has Yeah, so in four years, you know, he has scored eighteen hundred points. So you know, will he average eighteen and eight in the ACC, I'm not sure, but maybe closer to I don't know, fourteen and four and that'd be a good get.
So he's going to visit. He's gonna be visiting on Saturday. And from an understand, you know, there's only like three schools that that are involved here and I don't know if let me see here, and I don't know if there's any particular order as far as people predicting which school has the best chance, which school has you know, the you know, the least likelihood of landing this guy. But yeah, so it's Arizona, Ohio State in
Louisville. Those are the three schools he's considering, and he's going to visit all three and he's visiting. He's already visited Arizona. I'm sorry, he's visiting he's visiting Arizona yesterday and today, will visit Ohio State tomorrow and Friday, and then he'll be in Louisville on Saturday and Sunday. So you know, sometimes these guys take some time to make a decision, you know, sometimes they don't. So we shall see. But it's going to get more
and more exciting the more you start landing these players. And look, some of them were not that familiar with right, we don't you know, I'm sure you know. For example, Corin Johnson at Washington, I have no problem admitting to you have no clue who that guy was till he hit the portal and I figured out Louisville was and you know, became clear that Louisville
was interested. But that's kind of what all this is now, Right, how many guys did you see during the tournament and just during college basketball season this past year that you simply had never heard of, and their key contributors for a good team and they played at a school you never heard of the year before. And you can have a really good team that is built with not a superstar guy that is viewed to be this next level like lottery pick.
I mean if you look at the final four teams. NC State kind of a random way that they got there, but they don't have anybody on their team going to the NBA. And they've got a lot of transfers who you know, collectively put together that made up a really good team. Alabama, I mean, I'm sure they have guys with NBA upside, but you know, Grant Nelson, the transfer from South Dakota State, I mean, he's probably their best prospect, the white guy who played really well against Carolina.
But you know, a lot of the other players on that team good players. Clearly they were fun to watch. I mean, Mark Sears was an All American guard. But like you know, the days of looking at every team and and may you know, thinking that you have to see three future NBA guys on their team for them to be a good team that could really make a run and have a great season, that's just not the way it is anymore. And then Yukon, you know, clearly they're they're a
monster. But it's I think that was something that really stood out throughout the season and throughout their run is that you know, Donovan Klingon, he'll get drafted and he'll probably be a productive pro. But like, if he's not,
I'm not going to be totally surprised. I think he's somebody that is, Like Yukon's guys are going to go earlier in this draft because of how good their team played and because how weak this draft is, all right, I mean Cam Spencer not a pro Tristan Newton, not a pro Klingon. I think he's a pro Stefan Castle. I mean, that's a guy that was good for them, but you know, he was not close to being like their best player, and he was a guy that was a freshman last
year. So the guys who really made Yukon, in fact, I'll tell you who made Yukon a monster. That's their coach, not any particular player, but the core of that team, in my opinion, that really, you know, helped them separate themselves from everybody else. Those are guys that are that have played college basketball for a long time, and some of them have played at two different schools. And if you get the right pieces, you could you could use that to put together a really good that could compete
at a high level. And what's wild is that Louisville fans know that, and just because of how bad things have been lately, I can't imagine there's going to be many additions to this roster via the portal that we're going to act like is not a good thing. First of all, it's good just because you need bodies, you need players, and everybody that we've talked about as far as visitors, I mean, these are guys that I would take
all of them. I mean, I don't know if that's realistic because clearly I think there's a few guards that if one commits, the other might cancel a visit. But Kentucky fans, this is a new world for them because they went roughly fourteen years essentially that if they didn't have a star studed freshman class, they were in trouble. But here's the thing. They had one
every year, but it was such a crapshoot. Well, when you go and build a team with dudes that have played two three years in college basketball, technically you still really don't know exactly what you're getting, but it's less of a risk. And one thing that's going to be so different for Kentucky is that they could have a really good team, but the ceiling just not be super high because you know, they don't have as much room for error.
Kentucky's had teams that at times would look a mess, and Cali Perry would talk about, all they're young, they're not robots, they're kids. Like he would give you all those you know, empty statements about their I guess excuses essentially, but you always knew nearly every team he had, not all of them, but nearly every team he had, they had so much young talent that if it ever clicked, like you knew you were in business to potentially win the whole thing, even the team that lost to Oakland this
year. So like, you're not gonna have that now, But I don't know if you're gonna care or not. It may be weird initially, but I can't tell if Kentucky fans are more just like energized about that and not caring at all about five stars. They just won't pope to get guys that you know, love Kentucky and will die to where that uniform as he said.
But here here's where the ultimate test is going to be once the rosters are put together, because like on paper, I mean, I think Arkansas's roster is going to look a lot better than Kentucky's doesn't mean it's going to be a better team, right, But that's just going to be very, very unusual for Kentucky fans to see. But again, it's it's I think both programs with these new coaches are going through drastic changes as far as the way things used to be compared to the way they're going to be now.
Which, by the way, this is a text that came in earlier, says Nick. Do you think Mark Pope is only going to recruit white guys? I have no clue. I'm sure he's in on players that are not white, but yeah, I think you know there's a lot of white guys at BYU, and you know he's a white baller himself, So I don't think that he or any of his coaches are going to consider the race of
players when he recruits them. But I guess technically with Travis Perry, the freshman, Colin Cowherd who transferred in yesterday, Colin, Colin Chandler, uh and Jordan Jordan Burks, I mean he's he's not white, So yeah, I mean, I don't know if you were this is a UK fan from what I can tell on the text line because they've texted many times, and it's a pretty easy tell which fan, which team you're a fan of,
within like a text or two. But no, I mean, I'm sure you're gonna have a very diverse roster, as you know most programs do. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. We get a lot more to get into a good a good text line. Uh so far today and I've not read many of them, so we'll get to
that as we as we roll along here. Also, we talked yesterday about uh Javante or Avante Porter and his gambling issues because it's I don't think it's just where he was, you know, betting a lot of money, but he was clearly doing some shady stuff. We now know what that shady stuff was, and this is I mean, this is a understandably so this is a huge punishment that has been sent down by the NBA, as he's got
a lifetime ban from the league. But the specifics of what they uncovered in the investigation confirms I think what a lot of people started to suspect, which is that this isn't just a guy that's stupid trying to make money. I think he's got a clear gambling problem, but we'll get to that and a lot more. Don't go anywhere. It's coffee and company. We are fel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety so if you pay attention and
listen during the commercial breaks. At least three of them so far have had the Fox Sports update, which is what we're about to talk about here. John tay Porter, the former NBA player, has been banned from the league. I mean the I don't know if he's going to face any charges. I haven't looked into to see if that's part of the story here, but yeah, he's placed at least thirteen bets on NBA games using an associate's account. According to their investigation, he bet on the Raptors to lose in games
that he played in. I mean, this is the this is I mean, this is the worst you could do in regards to you know, if your bet, you shouldn't do it because you know it's against the rules and it's just so stupid because you could really just ruin your career, ruin your life like this guy did. But if you are betting, but not betting on your team, you still shouldn't do It's against the rules, and you're gonna have to suffer consequences if you get caught doing it. But that is
a totally different story than betting. When you are playing in a game and you're betting on a team, even if you're betting on a team that you play for and it's to win, I can at least ride with that, you know, I mean you should. You shouldn't do it, but at least it's like you're trying to make money in your you know, maybe you're gonna play harder than you even realized you could because there's more money on the line. I mean, it's so stupid, But betting on the team you're
playing for to lose is the shadiest. I mean, it's it's it's it's it's stupid, it's shameful. No team, but in the league. I mean, they've banned you for obvious reasons, but like you have to like, I don't even know how you could argue that that's not a just punishment. If you're John tay Porter, and maybe he is accepting blown, I'm not seeing any kind of a statement. But uh, I mean, how could anybody ever trust you to be on their team when you when that when
those things were happening. So it's probably more of an addiction than it is anything else. But still that's I mean, you can gamble to fix or to you know, to get that fixed for addiction of gambling and wagering, and it not beyond the NBA or your team, you know. So I don't have any sympathy for this guy, because again, actions have consequences, and this was not a mistake. This was something that he was well aware
that you cannot do. It's like the ultimate sin, and he did it, so he deserves the punishment, and I don't feel sorry for him. But there is something about just a really sad situation that I can still find, you know, some level of maybe not sympathy, but it's just sad because we realize it's a sickness and whether or not it's right or wrong, like I means still wrong, You can feel sympathy for somebody if you can
tell that there's something not completely right there. Yeah, And I got to be honest with you, I anybody that has an addiction that they cannot control that is awful. That's sad, and that that's you know, I can't imagine I've been very fortunate to not have anybody close to me in my life. Rather it befriend family that that has struggled with a very serious addiction that you know, just ruins their life, and it can ruin yours too if
it's somebody that that's close, that is that close to you. So, you know, again, and very fortunate because you know, the area that I grew up in. I mean that's I mean, it's it's a problem everywhere in America, but you know where I'm from specifically, there's a lot of a lot of kids. They're not kids now, but I mean people who graduated at the school that I went to years after and even some before.
I mean, it's not uncommon to go through it, you know, a yearbook or something, or you know, class reunion and realized that, you know, six seven people that you went to school with they're dead because they they got caught up an addiction and it got the best of them. So you know, that is that is awful. But this is a guy that is twenty four years old and he ruined his life by making such a
stupid decision that he easily didn't have to make. Now I say easyly, you know that's why I think if it's truly a gambling addiction, I just think this is more just being a dumb ass. But clearly you know he's he's addicted to gambling in some form of fashion because you know, he did it a lot and he knew it wasn't something he was supposed to do.
So maybe it's not an addiction. Maybe it's ignorance. Either way, a twenty four year old guy who now will only you know, if I would imagine, this is a guy from a basketball family, right His brother Michael Porter is a star for the Denver Nuggets. He was not as big of a recruit John Tey Porter, but still a guy who ended up in the NBA has played professional basketball, you know, since I think he was nineteen years old. He's twenty four years old now, and now his career is
over. He'll never play in the NBA again. He won't play anywhere else either, and that's what he's always going to be known for. The guy who got banned by the NBA for betting on his own team to lose while
he played. That is going to be what he's known for. Maybe he does a one to eighty and becomes an advocate and speaks out to other players and lets him know how stupid he was and how much it can ruin his life, how much it ruined his life, and it's not worth it, and maybe that'll be the feel good side of it on the other end, but either way, like that is what he is going to be known for. And there's no scenario that this kid that basketball was not his life since
he's since he can remember. I'm sure, right, I mean, so it's unfortunate, but again, like this is something that if you do what he's accused of doing per the league's investigation, I mean, lifetime ban is is just and I don't know how. I don't know where it comes in where you could get arrested. I'm not even really sure what the charges, but I know there's been other point shaving scandals and maybe this isn't as much
of a point shaving situation. I really don't know what the bar is, but I mean, it wouldn't be shocked if if he's going to face some kind of legal charge, because again, like that's like you can't do that. So his smallest bet was fifteen bucks, his largest bet was twenty two thousand. His total payout was seventy six fifty nine dollars, So he won twenty two thousand dollars betting on the NBA. And I'm sure some of those wagers depending upon what I mean. If it was his prop bets, which
of course raised red flags, then that's cheating. And the investigation also found out that he also shared private injury information to different gamblers. And how do you think he got caught up? Like, how do you think it went wrong? My guess is my guess, you know, my guess is that
what was supposed to be something Because here's how some people operate. When you know you've got something great going for you, like you've got a scheme, a scan, whatever it is, and you feel like it's it's never gonna You're never gonna get caught, like this is amazing. There's some people that just even though they know that the most likely scenario for this to keep going on and it continued to be a very beneficial situation for you, they need
to shut the hell up and not tell a soul. But some people can help themselves when they've got something so great they want to tell others. So I'm just guessing here, But my guess is that is why there ended up being a very suspicious or they just got greedy. Maybe it was the same
people betting and they got greedy and bet too much money. But what raised attention to DraftKings, which of course ended up sharing that information with the NBA, was that Johntay Porter, who a guy most NBA fans don't even know who he is. I mean, he was a G League guy forever,
and then got a spot on the Raptors roster this year. Earlier this season, and he had a handful of prop bets and there was one prop bet where it was oh, the total was zero point five on three point attempts made, so he just had to not take a three And if you bet the under you win. Well that's whatever. But either enough people bet that or there was enough money wager to where it became the biggest NBA winner for
DraftKings on that night for props. So that's not a rant, like again we talked about yesterday, John, There's no scenario that's a random coincidence. Yes, And I don't know if if if you avoid that by maybe just doing small bets and not raising attention, or if it ended up where people couldn't keep their mouth shut, and they wanted to tell others that they've got a guy, give it an info, and it gets around to enough people and they jump in and make the wager and it all came crashing down.
So unfortunate, but NBA had to do it. And you know, I think even if he didn't bet on his own team and he did bet on him to lose, I think a lifetime band could have happened, and that would have been more of a Okay, we have to we have to, you know, we have to make an example and let people know. You get caught doing this, you will not play in this league ever again. But I think now knowing what he did, it's not I mean, it is an example, I suppose, but it's also what you have to do,
Like you can't ever let that guy back in the league. And unfortunately, I guess he could go play He could go play basketball overseas and he could make money doing that if he's good. But I mean, you can bet on games overseas. I mean, you know, I've done it before, which you know, I don't want you to hear that and think that I'm you know, addicted to gambling myself. But I ended up realizing I think it was last year the year before. It was a year before.
It wasn't legal yet, so I guess he could have been last year the year before either way. But the NBA TV shows some of these year league games, and I just really got into it because it's really good basketball, and you end up seeing a lot of guys that you forgot that played in the NBA briefly, or they were stars in college. And I got to watching that a little bit here and there, and I decided to start betting and didn't win, of course, but the action's there, man. You
can you can. You can wager on probably anything you want if you look hard enough. All Right, it's Coffee and Company. We are feel about Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Appreciate you hanging out with us. My name is Nick Coffee the company man. Mister John All on the alongside
today. And let's go to the text line, shall we? Five O two six five three zero seven ninety That is the L and N Federal Credit Union text line this Texas, Nick, you think Patina I was gonna do the same type of video for Peyton seven Louisville that he did for Mark Pope in Kentucky. He certainly should. I don't think you're gonna see him do that, and I'm you know, I think it'd be awesome if he did.
And I'm sure Rick is very happy for Peyton for being hired as the director of Alumni Relations player Development. I believe that's the title, But I you know, I don't think you're going to see him do the type of
video. And because what Rick is doing now is I think genuinely just being happy for Mark Pope because again, and actually, let me back up a second here, I don't know if you're asking that like sincerely, or if you're doing it kind of in a snarky way to like, you know, put him to the test to see if he's gonna pick a side here? Is he gonna only start showing love to Kentucky now and not Louisville. But that really bothered people what he said about Mark Pope in Kentucky. And I
think I'll right the nil or all. If they need help with n IL, I'll write the check. I think that's probably the one that really really bothered people. And I guess I get it. That's your coach insinuating that he's going to help the rival of you know, Louisville potentially get players, but he can't. He's not doing that, like he can't do that. I mean, it's not really that's Rick. That's Rick being Rick. That's
Rick saying things that only Rick could say. And like nobody, you know, there's just a level of things to Patino and call in my opinion, can say that. You just take it for what it's worth knowing who is saying it. But also, Rick Patino never talked badly about Kentucky. He loved Kentucky. I think it was very uncomfortable for him knowing that he was at Louisville and Cali Perry was there and he hated Cali Perry and Cala Perry
had a lot of success. And I don't think Rick coached at Louisville wishing he was still a Kentucky at that time. Maybe he did, I don't know. But again, we don't humanize these figures like Rick Patino and the hot you know, superstar larger than life figures within the sports world, and
to be fair, they're not real relatable. I mean, Rick Patino is not relatable at all, but he's a human, So what really put him on the map as a rock star in the basketball world was what he did at Kentucky, and I just think it would be unnatural for him to feel a certain way. He didn't get fired from Kentucky. He left, and he wishes that he didn't, and you know his issues with CALIPERI. I don't think it had anything to do with, you know, Kentucky itself.
So maybe it was Rick's arrogance that like led to him never doing it. But if you go back, I don't think you'll find many instances where he took like jabs or shots and really played into the rivalry. The rivalry made him uncomfortable and that showed. So I wasn't expecting him to have the reaction that he did with the full video and just really you know, being so happy for Kentucky and Mark Pope and this and that. But once it happened,
I wasn't really that shocked. And I'm glad you actually brought that up, whoever texted that in, because you know, Rick was fired here. And I don't think he blames the fans because clearly they didn't have any role in it. And I think he also understands that everybody that is at the University of Louisville currently, as far as those that are administrators, those that make decisions, they weren't. They weren't here when that happened. I think
Rick has even said it that he publicly. I think it was an interview with Seth Davis earlier this season he mentioned David Grissom and I guess Matt Bevin, I think you mentioned my name as the two guys that were really conspiring to get rid of him. He used to mention Papa John a lot, which Papa John wasn't a fan of Rick. And you know, Papa John wanted to fire Rick Patino and he wanted to be the guy that like hired the coach. That's what Papa John thought he could do as somebody that you
know, gave a lot of money to the school and Papa John. So I don't know, I just I I don't think you're I mean, if Rick has to pick sides, I don't even want to think about it. But also I don't I don't have the same emotion that others do. I'll never not like Rick Bettino. I'm not gonna again. I've said it many times. I'm not gonna cheer for Saint John's when IM buying Saint John's gear.
But I I if Rick is coaching like he is now, I would prefer him be good because I think that's just still the natural emotion that I have towards him. Now, you know, he was to end up at
Kentucky. That had been weird, but that was never gonna happen. But despite Rick not blaming fans or current administrators and understanding the fans still love him, he still was fired in a situation where he truly believes he was wronged, and honestly he has a case because what we now know is that, like sounds crazy to say, I sound like such a naive, you know, delusional person, But watching the documentary on HBO that really profiled Christian Kristen
Dawkins, and knowing you know, everything we learned from that and all the other reporting on it, and how big of a wasted time it was, it just looked as if the FEDS were you know, the District of New York or whatever that bureau is up there that wanted to get this whole thing
started. They just wanted to take down Rick Patino, and there really was no indication that he really you know, it sounds crazy to think that he would think they could just get Brian Bowen without anybody getting any money, that kind of stuff, But like Christian Dawkins, if you've ever seen it, does a great job of making it quite clear that, like he was telling people, he knows Rick Patino lying to make himself look more connected and involved.
Rick Patino's ego is so huge that he wouldn't want you to ever know that he knows who you are, regardless of who you are, unless you're somebody close to him. So he still feels like he was railroaded. And even if he didn't have any real animosity towards fans and anybody in charge at u of L, now it's still a really in his mind, it's still a real crappy situation that he's bitter about. Now where his bitter is. You know who was bitter Who he's bitter towards. You know they're not around
anymore. But still, like that's probably not something he's ever just going to completely be okay with. So the reason I mentioned that I was glad that you texted that end because I saw last night Richard Prittino did an interview where he was asked about the Louisville situation because there was contact made and they did not offer him the job. He mentioned that he was going that they that
they told him they were going to hire Pat Kelsey. But also, you know, he talked about his dad in the communication that the two had whenever it became clear that Richard might be a candidate for the job. And this, you know, I think this tells you the way that this this is I think an update for Louisville fans on you know, how Corric Patino currently feels about U of L. Louisville reached out, that pulled out the heartstrange a little bit, and it was very unique in a lot of ways.
Fourteen fifteen years, right, sixteen years, so I lived there for three but you know, I was in college, but you'd go back, so it felt like home. But there was also some challenging family dynamics of my dad's not really excited about that. For me right now, there's still some you know, not happy with the way that ended there, and I understand that. So it wasn't like this I'm dying for that job. That wasn't it at all. And I wasn't real disappointed when they say we're going to
go hire Pat Kelsey. There was not one part of me that was down about it. So he went on to just talk about how Louisville was kind of home for him because he was there during his college years and when he
was coaching elsewhere and he came back home, it was to Louisville. But you know, I think that's understandable from Rick Pertino's standpoint because as much as you know, he had a lot of support when things weren't going well because they're they're let's be real, regardless if you think it should have happened. If it if it's anybody else that's not a legendary coach like Rick Patino that has the Karen Seipher thing play out the way that it did, they're going
to get fired if anybody else is the coach. When I mean and the Minority Hall stuff happened, like one of the things that I will just admit I was totally just I guess blind to nobody got fired, not one person on the staff, not one. I mean, Audrey McGee had already left, but like nobody got fired, Like nobody has made an example of and even if there's an ounce of truth to what she said, which there is,
I mean, it still is an awful thing. So, like Rick, I don't think he's the guy that would look back and say, you know what at the end. I think that was a little premature. But man, they had to because they'd given me so many chances, and despite it being embarrassing, they still stood by me. That's not how his mind operates. Man. All right, kriek break, We'll come back on the other side, wrap up the four o'clock hour and keep it rolling along again.
It's coffee and company. Feel abou Thorton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Very little time left here in the four o'clock hour. Gonna be a short segment, but hey, it's okay. We got another hour to go and we're gonna we're gonna make it count. Fellas, listen up. I'd say a lot of you listening, I don't know. Maybe maybe it's a lot, maybe it's a little. There's at least some of you listening that have heard me talk about the Little Vin's Clinic for the last few months,
and you know that you fit exactly what I'm describing. You get a little bit older, but you're not an old man, right your thirties, maybe early forties, maybe you're younger than that, and you just starting to pick up some weight for really no change. And when you're in your thirties, you're probably like thinking, your metabolism is not adjusting at that age.
It is what it is. So if you're doing the same type of workouts, same type of exercise, you know, watching what you eat as best you can, but not doing any kind of crazy diet, but you're just starting to see some pudge pick up, you know, around your midsection, man boobs, you're a lethargic, you've lost your edge. You know, you don't want to do anything but just sit on the couch and you know, pass out at seven thirty when you get home. That's old age.
That's you probably losing testosterone, because low T can cause all those things I described and I never even thought of. And I didn't have all the symptoms, but I had some, and I just always said, well, it's just because I'm getting older. You know, thirty five's not twenty five. And then you know, sure enough, I put in a really good amount of you know, dedication to what I was doing in the gym, what I was eating, and I felt pretty good about, you know, my
results, but I knew it just didn't wasn't ad. Something wasn't adding up. So that's when I got my levels checked and I didn't know what to expect, but I reached out to the Men's Clinic, went and saw doctor Wood. He explained to me sort of what the symptoms are, and they checked my blood and sure enough, I got a call a few days later that my testosterone level was not where it needed to be for somebody my age. In fact, it was probably closer to the level that you would see
somebody twice my age. So for months now I've been taking testosterone treatment from the lois of Men's Clinic and everything about you know how I feel mentally physically, I mean, it's it's been a game changer. Should have done it a long time ago. So quick procrastinating. If you know that I'm talking about, you, do something about it. Reach out to him. Five O two four four four four thousand is the number. Louisvilleman's Clinic dot com
is the website. Tell him I sent you go see doctor Wood to get you squared away. All right? One more hour to go. We'll reset a lot for those of you that are just now joining in on the party. A lot of names we've discussed today when it comes to transferred portal on both sides, and we'll reset it, have some fun, mix it up. It's coffee and company, that's us. We are few about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety