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It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. You know we won't be able to, I guess really assess the roster until it's put together, regardless if you're a Louisville fan or a Kentucky fan. But both teams are going to be building rosters, I believe, almost from scratch. And again we have no clue who it's going to include, which, of course then leads to expectation. But I think it's gonna be fun, especially if it plays out like this

where you know you've got every keep in mind. A couple of weeks ago, it was the big addition from James Madison Fats, who kind of just seems like a forgotten guy now, but he was the Sun Belt player of the year and one of the top players in the portal. And now it's Javon Holliday who's transferring from Colorado. He made the decision earlier today. Visited over the last couple of days a six to six guard who played at Colorado for two seasons. Prior to that was at Juco and was a really good

Juco player, and sometimes that happens, right. There are some guys that end up at a JUCO and they end up being a low level Division one player, and you know they were at JUCO because of grades that kind of stuff. But then there's some guys that go to JUCO and really it's almost like a prep school for them, not because they're you know, playing for montverd or IMG, it's because they literally just aren't ready yet and they can develop. And that sound. I mean, just go look at what this

guy looked like before he ended up at Colorado. I mean, I think he was kind of, as they say, a late bloomer, but really productive in the last couple of years. Twelve points, six rebounds, fifty four percent from the floor, six to six guard. But also, you know, not a guy who's going to run your team as a point guard, but can pass it a little bit and can use his size to his

advantage. So a good get there, no doubt, and just an interesting This has nothing to do with him as a player, but just something that I found to be interesting about him. As in high school he was an AAU teammate of both Chet Holmgren and Jalen Suggs. He's from the Minnesota area, So I'm not sure if he was under recruited because of that or maybe he just developed late. But Pat Kelsey now has four players on the roster as the goal, I think the goal is thirteen. You get thirteen scholarships,

so we'll see how many they end up using. I would imagine they'll use nearly all of them. But keep in mind, when you get down to those last few scholarships, if you're trying to sell those two guys in the portal that are looking for a big role, it may be that you've

kind of already added dudes that are expected to fill that role. So I don't really know what you know when you get down you need what eight nine guys really to have depth, and then a lot of good teams don't even play that many guys, to be honest with you, But what it comes down to is having ten guys in practice that can help you get better.

So I would hope that they have ten scholar players, and I think they're going to have more than that, but I hope they have ten scholarship players that are guys that you can, you know, hope contribute, and maybe two of those guys will be kind of You know, their role will be dependent upon matchup situation, but I think they can get to ten. I do all right. It is Coffee and Company. We are filed by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Kentucky. You know they're they're kind of in

the same situation, right. They've got a coach coming in from another job that's going to bring a player or two with them. They haven't landed anybody in Kentucky just yet as far as a guy that is not affiliated with Mark Pope. But that was what happened earlier today. Colin Chandler, a former top forty player in the twenty twenty two class, was released from his letter of intent and is now going to play college basketball at Kentucky for Mark Pope.

And it'll be the first time he plays college basketball because he was on a two year Mormon mission after his after he graduated high school. So I could be wrong, and I don't know anything about the Mormon culture, and you know what you're required and what you're asked to do and really what you're not allowed to do when you're on a mission trip. But I don't think I'm just throwing crazy stuff out there. To ask the question, like,

how much basketball is this dude played in the last two years. Doesn't mean he can't be good, but he's a top forty player. And I said this earlier in the show. I feel like anybody who gets a top forty player should feel like they're getting a good player. But Kentucky, you know, you're seeing those that cover the team and their fans and this is not me picking fun at you or this is just this is just so different than

what we saw previously under Caliperry for fourteen years. Anybody get to top forty player that is in Kentucky, the snark from Kentucky fans would be loud, that's a cute little player. Let's see maybe a four star. That's cute. And then they'll mention that they've got four guys that are all ranked ahead of this player. But now they're like massive, get for Pope, Oh the first one. It's a big one. Colin Chandler sign him up.

So he may be great, But it's just I would never expect fans to ever look at a top forty player and you know, not be happy. But Kentucky was in such a different position with Cali Perry and clearly that wasn't the way to go about it anymore. Right, Like they could get five stars every year, they still weren't getting it done when it mattered most. So I'm sure they're going to be content with the way Mark Pope is going

to go about it until you know, he starts to lose. And there's a lot of time before you can even determine if he's going to win or lose, because it's April sixteenth. And also another name we've talked about, bollow the big man who transferred from Arizona. He didn't make any other visits. He got to Bloomington. Bloomington had the bag ready and I guess it was filled with what he wanted and he decided to commit to Mike Woodson. So Mark Woodson has done a really good job thus far in the portal.

They landed the PAC twelve Freshman of the Year from was it Washington State? Yes? And Rice. And there's a transfer from Stanford who Trilla Donna and says, lock it in. He's going to Indiana Sonan Carlyle. Yeah. So Mike Woodson, you know they wanted him gone. Now he's putting together a good roster in the portal and maybe another coach would have done it.

But you know, I'm just gonna put it out there if Mike Woodson has a good season next year and they're like top twenty throughout, you know, have a loss here and there that maybe he's a head scratcher, but like they'll be in the tournament safely, get a decent seed, and we know

you got to win the tournament or none of that matters. But I'm just gonna say, if that's the scenario where they end up having a good season, where they're a top four, top five, maybe even top three Big ten team throughout, I'm not going to be surprised, and I'll be remembering all the nasty things that Who's your Nation said about it was nasty. Now I'll gladly say it wasn't a part of it if they're that good next year. I always hope that I didn't like influence you like I didn't make no

I was never whenever. I believe it was back in December, so it was kind of before the season really went south. That was the beginning of people getting a little ye set. They were the name around. They were done get fired, which is a shame. But you know, I think they'll be happy with it. Next year. We'll see I hope. So all right, five W two five hundred is the number. If you guys want to jump in and join us on the phone lines. Uh, let's

go to Jerry. Jerry, you're on Sports Talk seven ninety. How are you, sir, I'm good. I just want to give you my take, my perspective, my opinion about all this stuff, Okay, And it's to me, it's fascinating. There's so many layers such there's so many different ways you can look at this, the dynamics of the whole thing. The money. First of all, I'll say this. I just read a tweet by Jeff Goodman that Bollow's asking price was one point two million. Yea,

I you fan earlier today? Tell me they gave eight hundred thousand and they got him freight hundred thousand were where he landed? I don't know, but it's it's fascinating to me because all this, I guess came from Ed O'Bannon seeing his likeness on a video game. It's Shabba's napier saying at the Final four that he went to bed Hungary crazy. But here's my take on it. I'm for the players getting their piece of the pie. I've always said that is this the right way to do it? Who knows, But I'll

give you a couple of stories selection Sunday. I didn't see it this year, but usually when they flashed to Kentucky, they would be sitting in Cali Perry's house. And I think I mentioned it to my wife more than one year. I said, wonder what's running through those guys' head sitting in that big house. You know, they're the ones putting in the work, sweating,

you know, maybe juggling a few classes. Maybe not. Who knows from that perspective, but it always made me uncomfortable to watch that scene fold out with them, and a lot of coaches did it Now so more they're in a big conference room or something, and they're probably feeding them a big meal, and they're not in their houses. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that. I'm pretty sure that Caliperi was still in his house this year. Okay,

Well, I remember a few years back. I believe it was Northwestern's football team sort of staged a coup or they were gonna do a little protest. Yeah, they talked about unionizing Jerry, I think is what it was, yes, sir, okay. And I got on the message boards because I was more of a message boards guy. Now I'm more of a Twitter guy, right, And I remember doing a Danny Hurley to everybody on that message board and I said, it's coming, it's coming, get ready,

And I was for it, you know. And I'm still for the players. And I remember getting laughed off that message board because I said that, right. I always felt like that the players would leverage themselves with an NCAA tournament boycott once the bracket was drawn. It never came to that, but that's what I sort of envisioned in my head. But now it's flipped and they've got the power. One thing I don't understand is we talk about the

money. And I've got a good source that I believe that it said, you know, l Ellis when he went to Arkansas, he was paid nineteen thousand a month. Now, when that started and when it ended, I don't know. But then you read all these things where people say that people are getting the money and then leaving. I'd love to know the dynamics of that and how that works, you know. I got all different kinds of directions I want to head, and I don't know if I'll be able to

get it all in. But one of the things that I find interesting about this whole deal is this, Okay, you got an assistant coach and he's making, say, three point fifty four hundred thousand a year for a high level program, and he gets stuck on a play and he convinces that Pat Kelsey or or a Mark Pope to to go with his guy that he's discovered and found, and he's convinced one of those guys this is the guy.

And then you get him to campus and he doesn't pan out, but you're but you're out four hundred, say you're out two hundred thousand, three hundred thousand, But you got a guy that you paid one hundred thousand that's working out a lot better. That's another dynamic that everybody's not even you know,

what do you do about it? Because I've always heard that it's really tough for walk ons because the assistant coaches are gonna pitch for the guy they brought in, and they're gonna and they're gonna not give the walk on much of a chance. And I find it hard to believe this money isn't gonna be another dynamic in the room when the coaches are cutting up the playing time.

All right, No, there's no doubt about it, Jerry. And look, I think yeah as much as I as much as I tell coaches like, hey, you know, like you make a lot of money, make adjustments a lot of us and our and our jobs have to adjust as things change. But with that said, it is, I mean, it's almost impossible to manage, especially when you are not allowed to actually, you know

you're not. I'm sure they are involved more than they're supposed to be as far as instaively rules, but it like to say that it is an absolute mess is an understatement. Well, I'm all for the again, I'm for the players getting their fair share. I feel like they've been screwed for years. Okay. I put it all on the NCAA, the administrations that took the big checks from the conferences, the coaches that took the big salaries, and they didn't get ahead of this thing and come up with a better system.

They were getting theirs, and they could have cared less about the most important component, and that was the players. And I find it almost comical at this point. And I got one more thing to say out. I talked to Kentucky fan yesterday that it was all excited. You know, he had watched that Sunday deal and prior to him, that's cool, and he and and and the thing he said, which I laughed when he said it, he said, basically, I'm finally gonna get to know my players again.

And I said, no, no, no, you're you're so wrong. I said, dead wrong. I said, you're never going to retain more than three or four a year, no matter what happens. And and that's my perspective. You agree with that in their district. I just don't see it happening for any school to be able to keep anybody. And the thing I told the guy was this, I said, say you got a

guy that scores seven and has four boards a game. I said, if he doesn't get a raise, he's got a shop, right, he's got to take up, take up for himself, and say, oh, I got to throw my name in there and see what's out there. Right. Let me give you. Let me give you an example for the Kentucky side lance where you remember him, say he was probably a seven and four guy at best at Kentucky and you know he hit the portal goes to Villanova.

I mean, and Jerry, I appreciate the call. Don't ever worry about, you know, about being long winter or anything like that. I always appreciate the conversation. But no, I think when it comes to the days of getting to know your players, you can get to know them, but it won't be for very long. And I'm not saying you'll never have a guy that's there four years, but that's gonna be really, really rare because even if you've got nil resources for a player that's good and doesn't have NBA

upside. And this is not a knock or a shot at Mark Pope, it's just the truth. Mark Pope could be really good. He ain't gonna have NBA upside like cal Perry did, because that's just how cala Perry builds his roster. And you can have very little NBA upside on your roster and still be really really good. You think Oakland had much NBA upside on that

roster. No, So my point is this, like, there are gonna be dudes who had a good run and didn't have NBA upside, but they've been able to make money in the portal and then they move on, like for example, Tyrese Hunter. I think he started his crew at Iowa State. Maybe was it Texas the last couple of years, had two good years, made a lot of money Texas can pay. He's in the portal again just because you know what he can. Like, guys are not gonna stick

around for four years unless the money's in a great spot. They don't have NBA upside. And the only thing I could think of it that would keep him around is that if they are at the top, like for example, like Kentucky could do it because they would have nil resources. Louisville. I mean, the elite of the elite could have a dude stick around for his entire career. But I think the elite of the elite at a place like that, you would think they have NBA upside at some point and realize they're

just ready to start through. It would have to be somebody that literally is so good, but they realized they'll never sniff the NBA. Let me give an example, and it's kind of a weird one because they were pre inil but also in the middle of anile. And that was Trace Jackson Davis. He could have easily gone somewhere else during the Woods and changeover, but he stuck around because he wasn't quite ready for the NBA at the time, and you got a four year player out of somebody like it. Yeah, and

he's a good one because he's actually doing well in the NBA. And I thought he slipped in the draft but the Warriors were lucky to get him. But no, he he and he's an Indiana guy like he would never leave and go to another school, so that that's another component that can help you. But here's this. You know, this is not me telling you that

Mark Pope's gonna fail and he's gonna stink. Because here's the thing. If you coach a little bit and you're at Kentucky, you're gonna be fine because Kentucky's got a lot of resources that make it to where you should succeed.

And I don't think Mark Pope's a bad coach, but the way he wants to go out and build a roster right now in the way Kentucky fans I think are envisioning this playing out with him being there and getting you know, guys that are going to stick around three four years look, it's Kentucky. So maybe guys would just decide not to leave because you know what, they're at a great place. But I just that that, you know what Jerry mentioned, as far as what one of his buddies said, that's not That's

just not how this works anymore at all. So I mean, Pope, could I mean and again, if by you they had guys that transferred in, they had guys that transferred out, but it was ANU. It's a unique spot, meaning like the Mormon faith and the Mormons. That's some of the part. It looks me real. The top forty player who ended up at BYU who's now transferring to Kentucky, the guy we talked about earlier, Colin Chandler, Like, I'm assuming his Mormon faith is why he went to

BYU. So I get why Kentucky fans are excited as can be about Mark Pope. And I don't blame him at all because he's such a refreshing change of pace to what you were used to with Caliperry. But I wouldn't be shocked if their roster next year is insanely underwhelming, because you know he's got an il and you know it's Kentucky. But this is different for him. This is new to him, and you know, I guess you could say the same thing about Pat Kelsey, and Pat Kelsey's been on the job a

lot longer than Mark Pope. But I'm really fascinated to see how that roster put is put together for them in year one. You know, they're going after Andres Stryakovich, pages Stuakovic Son, who's transferring from Stanford. Fine player, decent recruit, but he wasn't like super productive as a freshman at Stanford.

The two guys from Byu Robinson and Khalifa, John L. Davis, And really I think it's kind of a last minute thing because everybody's wondering why the hell and this guy committed to Michigan yet I've heard it's academic related, probably because that's helped that's that's that's kept other guys from being able to go there too. Yeah, Caleb. And then now they're apparently reaching out to Liam McNeely, who is the best available freshman out there. Maybe they get

him, but they're also coming in late. So look, I have no clue how Louis was roster's gonna turn out either, But you know, I'd say, in a week's time, you'll start to see if Mark Pope's really gravitating some momentum in regards to the portal, right, Like he's now selling the UK logo and he can do it than a lot because he played there.

You know, he knows what it's like. But if he's gonna truly be in the living rooms of these these players that are transferring with a lot of nil value and talk about wanting to make sure that it's all about wanting you know, basically would die to put on the uniform, I don't I don't know if that's gonna gonna hit. All right, quick break, we'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing rolling along at his Coffee and Company, and we are field by Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven

ninety. Right before the show started today, I was talking to Terry Miner's Humble Brag there, but we were talking about what Twitter has become as far as just the generic accounts that say, you know, CFB Insider College Basketball

twenty four to seven. I mean it just they're not they're they're not brands, they're not outlets, they're not they cannot produce work that is in any way even I mean, it's just and I'm sure there are some accounts that are that have names similar to that, and they just you know, are big fans and they want to share stuff and they're having fun with it.

But there's some that are just I don't know if they're set out to just be completely ridiculous with just running like for example, you know, Terry was like, how do you know what's real and what's not? I'm like, you don't, like it's it's impossible. But I now tend to not believe anything that comes from those types of accounts just because not that I think everything they share is a love because sometimes they just clearly just you know, share

other information that's out there elsewhere. But like if you see something that you just see as wow, surprising, like wow, that's big news. Didn't expect that. I didn't see that coming, and it's from something like that, like I would check the source, like let me give you let me

give you an example. There is a Twitter account, I'm sorry, an Instagram account college football dot HQ. Never heard of it, but it's got a logo and it has ten point three thousand followers on Instagram no website, nobody that you know, you can't read any actual work that's been done. It's just somebody sharing stuff on Instagram. And they've got a final four here for Lebron James's son, Brownie James, and it lists Oregon, Duke, Ohio State, and Louisville. That's not real, that's not true. But

you know how many people are going to see that and believe it? I mean, and there's nothing. I mean, there's nothing you can do. It's just it's now the world we're in, Like, it's not just Twitter, you know, it's Instagram, it's TikTok, it's anything. Like we used to say, fake news and it used to always just to me remind me of Donald Trump because he would just yell at you know, during his campaign and all that. But I mean, it's it's crazy. So anyways,

it is Coffee and Company. Welcome in. If you're just now joining us, you're you're tardy. We're about halfway through, and I guess better late than never, or we'll take a little bit of a break here from the portal conversation as that's led the show. Given that all three local teams on the basketball side of landed commitments today from the portal and in the football

side. Today's the day that it opens. The post spring portal open today, and A Louisville has of course lost some players, and I don't think there's really anyone that like of the names we've discussed. I'm sure they would have liked to keep some of these guys, but I would be willing to bet that there's certain players that you see leave in the portal and you're like, wow, man, that's a big hit, and you may not be

incorrect with that. However, Jeff Brawm to me is succeeding in the portal in the early stages of it because he understands what it is, knows he can't control it, and does the best he can as far as keeping people here that he wants to keep here, but if not, he's gonna go

get other players. So I think he probably understands why Jermaine Lolay and even Penny Boone are leaving, but he also knows, like, hey, you know, I can't sit here and tell them that they're gonna make millions of dollars and also can'tsider and tell them that they're going to be number two or number three on the depth chart. Even so, it's not that he wants these guys to leave, but I think he just understands what this is now

and unfortunately it's all transactional. So and I say unfortunately it's and when what I mean by that is because there's guys you clearly wouldn't want to see leave. But the fortunate side of is it that if you really, you know, if you if you're in a good spot with n Il and you have a good coach that can recruit, that can sell the success that he has had, you're probably gonna be able to go get somebody better. Not in every situation, obviously, but more often than not, I think you can.

And that's that's why Louisville's portal class last year and the one currently that they have is is you know where it ranks compared to others is because Louisville's

not losing dudes that they can't go replace. In fact, they're replacing them with players that I mean, you never know what their production is going to be when they move schools, but from what they've done at the college level, they are they're they're a bigger addition than the player leaving is a loss, all right, So this story is to me, this is one of the more fascinating stories in regards to sports gambling becoming more and more legal all

across the country. I mean, it is crazy how fast it has become such a fixture within every sport we watch. You see nothing but advertisements for all the sports books, and you see partnerships right where you can bet on professional sports at a professional sports game. And I think initially it was just like, oh my gosh, they're going to shut this down once. You see stories about players betting when they're not supposed to, and that'll probably never

end. But the John Tay Porter situation is wild. So he is the younger brother of Michael Porter, who's a really good player for the Denver Nuggets. Johntay Porter is a two way contract kind of guy in the NBA, not a star. Makes a lot of lot more money than probably a lot of us, but he's not somebody that is on a lengthy, guaranteed, multimillion dollar contract in the NBA. So you know, this is a guy that is probably trying to use money that he does make and make more of

it by gambling it. So it initially came out that he was under under

investigation. I don't think they've they've concluded the investigation just yet. But FanDuel or DraftKings or ESPN bet or BEDESPN, whatever it is, one of them had had player props available for this guy, and you know, he was seemingly doing some things that made it look as if he was aware of what the totals were on his props, and there's no way to prove that like what he did was you know, for example, the investigation opened this was

this was I think about a month ago because DraftKings reported that is under for three pointers, which is not make it's just attempts. The under was set at zero point five and it was the biggest money winner for betters on any NBA PLoP and any NBA player props for games that night. Again, this

is a guy who nobody probably even knows who he is. So the fact that there were enough people or maybe it wasn't that many people, but it was such a sizeable wager they sniffed it out and they reported it, and it's the NBA has been investigating it ever since. And in that game, he played four minutes and then left the game complaining of an injury. And I don't know how anybody in this position to play basketball at this level and

make a lot of money would ever risk that. But maybe in his mind he thought to himself that he is such a lower level like non like, he's probably surprised that there's even player props for him, So he probably thought he could get away with it and it wouldn't really raise any eyebrows. But either a ton of people found out about it that he was going to do it and bet on it, or very few people bet on it, but

they bet so much money. But the fact, I mean, that's not a coincidence, right, John, Like can't There's no scenario that is a coincidence. It's crazy how many people on these sports books have to constantly eye things like that too, because yeah, and they probably not then they wouldn't

ever catch this kind of st They're probably using AI. They've they've got you know, formulas in place to track things that seem suspicious, and they have to not only because of you know, to regulate it and to make you know, I'm sure there is within the partnerships with these professional leagues, like

there's clearly resources available to never stop looking into some suspicious activity. But also, you know, they don't want to get beat, you know what I'm saying, Like, they don't want to they don't want to lose money.

This is way deeper than that. But I just now now it comes out that in the investigation I guess, which is still ongoing, this is Action Wager or I'm sorry, Action Network is the one who reported this that he owned and operated a VIP account at fan Duel in Colorado that wagered millions of dollars from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three. He allegedly placed over a thousand wagers at the sports book. But here's here's what's interesting. None of

that was bet on basketball or college basketball. So this is a guy who I think just loves to gamble, and he may have a problem with it. I'm not sure. I mean, he has a problem on his hands, no doubt about it, because I don't think he's ever going to play in the NBA again when this all when you know, this all comes out. But I mean, I guess it's not a surprise that someone can get hooked on gambling and make irresponsible decisions, because it does happen. But I

guess a lot of people who you think that do that. At least it's somebody that you know, it's probably not really good with money. It's somebody who probably doesn't have a ton of money. I mean, you can, you can have a billion dollars and lose a million and it ain't a big deal to you. But this, I mean, this is gonna ruin his

life. Now. Fortunately, he'll probably you know, he'll probably be okay, Like I doubt he does any I mean, I don't even know what the legal action would be as far as criminal charges and all that kind of stuff. But I mean, his brother's an NBA star and has a lot of money. But you know, this guy, just looking at his his looking at his let's see here, I'm trying to find his Wikipedia just to

see what his like, how long he's been in the NBA. And I can't even find his Wikipedia because every single you know, every article I see here is just nothing. But yeah, so he is twenty four years old. He entered the NBA in two thousand. So from two thousand to two thousand, was it twenty twenty one to twenty twenty or two twenty one twenty three, he was just a G League guy and I and would you guess John, And I'm asking you to guests here. If you're in the NBA,

I'm sure you can bet on other sports, can't you? I would say you be able to? Yeah, Like I don't. I don't see a reason why they'd be able to tell you that you can't do that. So, you know, he's he ended up in the NBA on a actual contract with the Raptors this season in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four,

and you know, that's when this became a thing. But so from that, like those saying that he bet all that money when he was at in you know, when he was in Colorado, which again where his brother plays. That's why he was there, And he's probably using his brother's money too, to be honest with you, that's that's suspicious. That that's weird. That's that's that's you know, that's probably not normal to see guys that are NBA players or even G League players publicly out at, you know, betting

that much money. But then again, I don't think he's doing anything he's not allowed to do. But the player prop thing is is clearly something shady. Don't see a scenario where there's any any explanation there that is not him being aware and letting people know what the player prop or you know, somebody close to him telling him what the player prop is and him being able to like easily manipulate it by saying, Okay, all I gotta do is not take a three. I'm gonna you know, say that I'm hurt and not

go back in the game. And this is something else that came up at the time that he was with the I don't know who it is, but he he changed his number with the Raptors earlier this season after a trade, and it was because somebody who the Raptors traded for wanted his number and he gave it up for like twenty grand. And initially people were saying, well, this guy's always been about trying to make some quick money because he doesn't

make a lot of money in the NBA. Well now it's like that guy's probably just looking for another way to bring in money so we can go gamble. So yeah, we'll see more and more crazy stories like this over the years, I'm sure, and that's unfortunate, but that's the risk assessment. Whenever everybody decided that we should be legally allowed to bet on sports, which we should be. They were well aware of these kind of things happening.

It's all about finding out about it, you know, making examples of people like this young man who you know has probably ruined his career. So I just I don't know, I shouldn't say I'm fascinated by it, but I am. I mean, the way in which you could manipulate something like this, and you know, just to me, it's always just been such a like the people go to federal prison for this kind of stuff, shaving points,

that kind of thing. So I guess the naive part of me has always been like, well, nobody would ever risk it, because again, you use so much to lose if you're playing professional sports. But sometimes the temptation, and I guess the addiction, it'll take over, all right. Louis of Men's Clinic, you guys have heard about them. They've been around for over ten years here in the Kentucky and area, helping thousands of men when it comes to a lot of different things. I mean, their services

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here on a Tuesday afternoon. Appreciate you hanging out with us. I've been a busy, busy show so far, and I feel like the one thing I've not gotten into as much as I probably should have as the football side of things. But we can do that in the five o'clock hour, and it's not as if we've left off like a you know, very important thing to discuss, because we know Louisville was gonna lose some players in the portal, and earlier today there were some reports that they were losing you know guys

that they're not losing. In fact, let me read this really quickly, because I mentioned Brandon Marcelo as someone who you know that is a respected reporter in the college sports world, works for twenty four seven Sports. He's not as big of a name as you know some others, but you know he's he's a very credible guy when it comes to this kind of stuff. And he's the one who tweeted out a list of I think five names, and maybe one of the five is legitimately transferring. But here's his tweet that he

sent out after the fact. I'm rescinding my initial report on several Louisville offensive linemen expected enter the portal for full transparency are received conflicting info after the initial report five OL one d L and there was also confusion from a source about the initials and a name. After speaking further with one of the sources, it became clear that the erroneous information was provided and a portion of the names

was in portion of the names was incorrect. I've also apologized to Louisville head coach Jeff Brahm this morning on the phone. There are zero excuse for me to be duped on one or two names. I take credibility at heart. Wrong is wrong. You deserve an explanation rather than a deleted tweet. Good

on him. You don't see that very often from guys in that industry because I think at times, you know, they can they can feel as if they stand by where they got it and they believe it, but they understand coaches and other people are going to try to, you know, play it down and you know, I guess minimize the negative impact something could cause when it comes to reporting news and information on your program. But that's him basically

saying I got duped, I was wrong. So it makes people wonder whose shit hearing him, because this is not somebody that Again the reason I mentioned sort of his his background and his you know, him being a credible and respected writer and reporter is because it makes people think that he's he's got a source that has been good to him that is now sharing either made up stuff

or maybe they're getting things that are incorrect. And I don't think it's you know, this conspiracy around college football as a whole to start, you know, acting as if Louisville's checks aren't clearing when it comes to the nil, because I just don't, you know, I know, Louisville is in great shape with Jeff Brohm, and I'm thrilled that he's the coach here. I think they could have another typical, you know, another potential ten win season

this year. But like I also don't think that every college football program is worried about Louisville being able to take their players. Now. Louisville has done well in the portal and I think they will continue to do that. But there's been some some some shady stuff out there as far as guy's leaving and

why they're leaving. But again, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, you have to also consider that if somebody is leaving because they're not where they want to be on the depth chart, they're not going to come out and say that. I mean, maybe they will, but maybe they'll be honest, but they're going to blame it on something else. And I don't know if one of those guys that is leaving has stated that, you know, money was a factor, but I guess it could be a factor,

but it's maybe because they want more money. But whoever's in charge of deciding who gets what amount of money is not willing to give more money because they don't think that player's worth it, right, it's not in the budget. They got to go get more players and use that money. So the level of like true transparency is just going to be non existent in this world of free agency in recruiting and the transfer Portal and il all that stuff.

And again I kind of love it, but it's also impossible to really know what is truly happening. But again, that report earlier today was just wrong, and good on him for completely you know, getting rid of that all right. Edl And and Eedland. You've heard of them, you know who they are. I mean, I'm supposed to tell you and I will, but I know you know because they've been doing this a long long time. They're a full service residential real estate brokerage right here in Louisville, Kentucky,

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