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but the drama, like I think it was pretty minor. I mean. And in the end, here we are, what two weeks in today of the Pat Kelsey era, and I feel like he's off to a great start. I think we all know we got to wait and see if this guy can win some games. But obviously he is checking. He is checking the boxes that you need to be checked in this time, in this moment right saying all the right things, making it quite clear he's going to embrace the
craziness that comes with this job. And he's got some visitors coming in this weekend. So one of the in fact, two of the visitors are actually guys that are already committed. And these are guys that are not visiting to meet this coach because they know him really well. That's Rain Smith, who
is a transfer from Charleston, as well as James Scott. Those are the two guys that followed Pat from Charleston to hear and then the others are Dante Maddix junior, the Toledo transfer who is considered Ring five schools Louisville, Creighton, Illinois. I can't think of the other two. But either way, he is, uh, he's, I mean, he's he's a really good player from the MAC that a lot of big schools want. And I don't know if I believe it or not. You never really know what to believe.
But there's some that think that he's actually already given Louisville a silent commitment, which maybe that's true, maybe it's not. Maybe he's kind of in but wants to visit first before he gives, you know, he gives coach Kelsey the full green light. We shall see and then Chris Youngblood is a new name that I'm familiar with just because, again I watch a lot of college basketball games that most people don't. I don't say that to brag. I say it because I don't have much of a life. You know,
I watch I watch South Florida play. This year. They were a good story just because of, you know, the the phenomenal season they had in year one for coach Abdul Raheem. But Chris young Blood has been a I mean, he started Kinnesas State with coach of du Raheem, and then he was the co American Athletic Conference Player of the Year. He's he's a six four guard, put up some big numbers last year and he's also in the portal and we'll be visiting this weekend. And another visitor, according to rivals,
Nick Boyd from Florida Atlantic, another guard from fau So. I don't know if these visits, you know, obviously it's a good sign that there's there's this level of interest from these kind of players, But you know, I think these are all guys that could realistically help you get off to a good start here in the Pat Kelsey era. But even if they did land, let's see, you know, three of these guys, Nick Boyd,
Chris hung Blood and Dante Maddix Junior. That would give them, I guess a total of six players and you still have, you know, seven to go, which is exciting. Obviously a lot of work to be done, but I think there's something about a completely different I mean top to bottom, new staff, every new player. I mean that not to say that I'm happy to see everybody leave. I think there was some good players on last year's team. But either way, like just something being brand new like this
gives it a level of excitement that that makes me happy. You know what else makes me happy when we can bring in our man, mister Kent Spencer from w h S eleven. I mean, let's just go back to last week. If I'd have told Ja Caliperi, he's on his way out, he's gonna go to Arkansas. I mean, what would have been your reaction then, Kent? I think I think then it would have probably been like,
I think you're crazy. I don't think it's gonna happen. But it's so funny once it like broke on Sunday night, and you know, it felt like this was definitely gonna happen. I reached out to a few folks and I knew he had interest in Texas last year. Yeah, I knew there was real interest there that he had in Texas. And then I was told and then one of the one of them, I think the CBS articles kind of backed up at least one of the schools. Then I was told
this year he had interest in Ohio State, Michigan and SMU. Wow, Now that's a don't mean there was contact or anything like that. But he at least was interested in those spots. I mean it means he wanted out right, Yeah, it means he wanted it out And look, and so so many times I think after the fact, like you look back and you were like, oh, this was always going to be the end result,
you know, but you don't see it and in real time. But I still remember that joint interview that he had with Mitch Barnhart a couple of weeks ago. It was one of the more awkward interviews that that anybody's ever seen. And Mitch Barnhardt ran that interview. He was the one who was in control. And does that feel like John Calipari at all? Like, wh when John Calipari is at his best, he looked like a hostage kid.
Yeah, he's the one who's running the show. You know, he's the one who who he tells you what he's going to do, You don't tell him. And so this thing had just completely flipped on him. And you know, you look back at that interview and just kind of everything and you're like, all right, I could I could see this happen and I could see this this be at the end. What do you think led to the and I wouldn't even really know how to describe it. Maybe dysfunction wouldn't be
fair, but maybe just a lack of relationship. I don't know Mitch Barnhart well at all, and in fact, I've met him once and I think he seems like a really fine man. I feel like he also seems like a guy that it would be hard not to have somewhat of a decent to good relationship with because maybe I just maybe I'm getting the wrong vibe from him. How did he get to the point where those two just didn't work,
didn't have a relationship. I mean that to me that it's one thing if you've got a very brash ad who maybe wants to make sure everybody's aware that he's the boss, and maybe Mitch is that guy. But I just that's that's clearly a component to this whole thing. And I'd never really understood why
there was such a you know, distance between those two. Well. I think I think that John Caliperry was not Mitch Barnhurst's choice, and both of them, deep down they knew that, you know, Lee Todd, who was the president at the time, after the Billy Gillespie disaster at Kentucky. Lee Todd was the one who said we're we're talking to him, and Mike Pratt was was with them, you know, And and Mike Pratt actually told me that you know, he was, he was in the meeting, you
know, with all of them in Chicago. That was a that was a Mike Pratt Lee Todd thing. That was not a Mitch Barnhardt hire. And so I think deep down you always knew that, you know, most of their time together, they always had somebody in between them, and it started early well it and it and to be quite honest with you, before Dwayne Peevee, it was Rob Mullins, who's now the a d at Oregon. Like there was always somebody even before Peev, there was always somebody in between
them. You know that that really is no longer there. I don't think
in that and that athletics department. I think that you know, they were they were trying some some some last minute stuff here and maybe the last six months or a year, But after Peev, there really wasn't that person there, the real go between, And I think that's why you see, you just saw things just continued to get worse so it doesn't shock me that those two you know, didn't have a relationship or you know, and and and despite what they said in that interview, it was it wasn't good and it
never was good. Yeah, you could read the the the vibe from that entire situation, and it just it seemed uncomfortable on both sides. And Mitch was trying. But I don't think Cal could physically try it if he wanted to, just because of the level of I guess just you know, lack of relationship and and and that makes a lot of sense just because I think we've learned with Cal he's a very very very very much loyal It's all about
loyalty to him. And I think once he knew that the A D what once he was aware that that wasn't who he wanted to hire, meaning that like he was his first choice. It's probably something that just knowing Cal and how he's wired, that's probably somebody he's never gonna forget. Like it's just something that always stuck with him. And you know, it's it's unfortunate because I do think he was the perfect guy for that job in every way.
And whoever takes over, if it's Scott Drew or whoever else you know, he checked, he checks some boxes there that when it's rolling, it's it's like it's like nothing I've ever seen before. I think Patino did the same thing when he was there. Uh. And I think Kentucky fans we were ready for a change, and I think it's good. It's good for everybody. I think that's the initial reaction once the shock we're off, you realize this is this is best for everybody involved. And I sincerely believe that.
But you know, when he was good with cal there, man, they were they were on top of the world. Yeah, I mean his first six years is you know, you don't get much better than that. I think probably his you know, other than Patito's you know run there. I don't think you get better than than what Cali Perry did in those six years.
Obviously, you know, Dan Hurley's like, hold my beer, I do the next four years Yukon, but specifically at Kentucky, it's it's it's hard to get you know, as good as they were that first six years. And and look, you know, things things happen over time. And I think one of the you know, one of the things that somebody would have said. If you would have said, like, can he turn it around at Kentucky, I probably told you I said, yeah, he can, but you know, you got to he's got to make some changes,
and he's got to be willing to make some changes. And I think, you know, he he's got a lot of dysfunction on his staff from from what I've been told, over the last you know, year or so, that needed to get cleaned up. You know, you've got to get you got to get more organized. And you know, from what I've been told, he's taking a lot of that staff with him to Arkansas. So I don't know if it's going to get fixed. You know, he will be
motivated, and he's always really motivated. I think he'll be really motivated in recruiting at Arkansas. But you know, he didn't lose recruiting battles. He lost in preparation up to games and then the execution of any kind of preparation in which they did. I guess we'll have to know who the Kentucky coach is before you could answer this question. But let's just say it is Scott Drew, which I think most people assume that it will be not saying that's
for certain. But who would you say, in the next five years has a better chance to get into a Final Four Scott Drew at Kentucky or Caliperry at Arkansas. I would just because Cali Perry has taken that same staff. If Scott Drew takes the Kentucky job, I think Scott Drew at Kentucky. Yeah, do you think that's who it's gonna be kent I mean, if you ask me right now, who I think it's gonna be. Yeah,
I think it's gonna be him. But you know, for the like I'll say this, Nick, for the last couple of years, kind of the word around that program was whenever Cali Perry leaves, that's who it's gonna be. And you know, it dates back to the bubble and and and Mitch Barnhart and you know, and and Scott Drew, you know, getting a relationship together, and you know, and and that one and a friendship or
whatever. So it's always that's always kind of been the scuttle. But okay, well, you know, keep gone now you have you know a chance to you know, for Mitch Barnhart, honestly, he's made one basketball coaching hih at Kentucky it was Billy Gillespie. His entire I missed that guy as a Louisville fan, just saying he he he, that's the higher that he made, and his entire legacy depends on what he does with this higher.
So he's got to get it right and so and he's also probably gonna go with his number one gut choice, and so he's gonna throw everything that he can at Scott Drew and let's see what happens. Yeah, And and to Mitch's defense, I mean, the there's clearly a relationship between the two. There's I mean, maybe you'd call it favoritism, but like either way, they have a relationship. They're friendly. But it's not like he's just you
know, calling his fraternity brothers seeing if he wants a new gig. He's friends with a guy that won a national championship in the last three years. So, I mean, I think it makes total sense, and I think that Kentucky fans in a little bit of a way, it's not the same search at all for a variety of reasons. But you know, when you have such high standards and you live in your own world at times as a
fan of these high level programs. You can pick apart any candidate, right, Like, I mean, you could eat you know, Dan Hurley's got all the juice right now, but like you could easily look from top to bottom and find something that maybe wasn't as impressive. And I think some Kentucky fans have probably done that with Scott Drew. But I mean, I don't think anybody would tell you that that's not a great coach. And you know, I'd be highly shocked if he didn't win at a high level if that's
him. Well, and you also try to project right, like you know, we have done this, We did this a couple of weeks ago with Pat Kelsey and Louisville. Like he's one, but he hasn't won on this on this stage. So we're gonna see what he can do on this stage giving much better resources, you know what I mean, Like, we don't know the outcome, but he has one and he has built programs at a
couple of previous stops before he comes to Louisville. You know, with Scott Drew, you know he is one on the biggest stage of them all. You know, he's he's won an NCAA championship at Baylor that was in shambles when he first took the job. So he's built that program up from the from the rubble. Everybody knows he could recruit both high school talent and he can go get transfers from the from the portal, which is something that you
have to do in this day and age. So you know, you kind of just project and say, well, it's probably easier to recruit at Kentucky if you know, there's a lot of things that go in your favor if you're at a place like Kentucky. So what could he do with that? I would imagine that he could do very, very well. But and you and I have talked about this. Look, when Chris Back didn't work at Louisville, I have given up on the fact that somebody is a home run
higher. Yeah, I mean, that's I'm with you, because when it was, it was all the things that like, you know, we didn't know we needed as Louisville fans, Like he was a little more relatable. He was, you know, a guy that didn't take himself as serious as Rick Patino, and you thought that was refreshing. And then you know, when he didn't win a game or he lost the recruiting battle. You know, I better not see his asst roosters eating wings. He better get off
the lake and start recruiting. Like it just and it just it it actually that I'm glad you brought that up because I think whenever you know, I don't want to say fans turned on on Mac because clearly things were not going
well. But I think there's a level of knowing that when you know when you have a Patino and a Crumb, and when Kentucky has cal and you know Rick even Tubby to an extent, when you know you've got a guy that's struggling, but you also know he has done the ultimate thing, which is when a national championship, I think it kind of keeps the crazies in these fan base is a little bit balanced. And you know, with Scott
Drew, you know he does have that title. But I just I think it's not that I know him personally, but I understand why some think, Okay, this is a larger than life job. Is he a larger than life guy? But if he wins, none of that matters, right, Like it only matters when things aren't going well. Correct. Here here's all you have to do. You have to recruit and you have to coach.
If you do those two things at a high level, and you're able to stand on a podium and hoist a trophy and yell and scream at the fans in the arena, they'll love you. Yeah, you've got to be able to do those two things. You know. The other stuff is just like an added bonus. The other stuff, to be quite honest, is what makes your job easier on the radio. Absolutely my job in the television studio. But look, fans just want you to win games. If you're if
you can win games. But you know, if you if you go out and beat directional schools by twenty and are you know, in the hunt for your conference championship every year and making deep runs and march the fan base, you know, by and large, they're gonna love you. It doesn't matter if you're a lightning rod. You know who The best example of that is Bobby Vitrino. The man was a robot to me, I don't. I mean, he didn't show a whole lot of personality, didn't do it.
You know, clearly was hot at times, but like he didn't have a there was not a lot of relatability there. But when he was rolling and Louisville was putting up sixty points a game, like nothing seemed to matter. And then when it felt you're referring to Bobby one point exactly exactly. Yeah, no doubt about it all. Right, So you just the last question for you just mentioned sort of like things that'll make our jobs a little bit
easier. The fact that these two programs that have such a big following, and you know, not only just in this region, this area, but obviously two of the bigger brands in the sport. They're starting fresh and not only with new coaches, could be entirely new teams. Louisville, I think is going to have that. Kentucky. I guess we'll wait and see.
But like that's good for that's good for you guys in television, right, Like I think there's going to be a level of like you know, press conferences and you know, just a lot of the stuff that you guys do that there'll be I think more of a desperation to see it just because it's new. It's exciting. They want to get to know more about these players that are brand new and they're going to want to get to know more about
their coach one hundred percent, one hundred percent. And so you know, when things are when things are going, you know, well there's always an interest, Okay, how can you keep it going? Well, but when things are being built from the ground up, you know, and I at the moment, you know, I look at Louisville as being built from the ground up, you know, like you know, at at Kelsey's introductory news
conference, it was Kelsey and that was it. Yeah, no staff, no players, nothing, And so now he's starting to add to this thing, you know, brick by brick, and so yeah, no, it's interesting. Okay, how's he going to build this? Okay, how is he going to go do this? Or what's this philosophy on pest? You know, like, you know, I enjoy that part of it. I also, you know, will in the future we will enjoying those story stories
to fans and the viewers. That's the good thing, you know. And you know, we're kind of waiting to see who Kentucky gets as a coach. Okay, whoever, whoever they land, uh does does somebody like a reed shepherd come back? Do they? Can they you know, can they bring some recruits with them. You know, what what does that look like? Because you know both of them are starting fresh, but obviously Louisville was starting from a different spot than Kentucky. Sure, okay, so how do
you how do you manage how do you manage that? You know that'll be? You know, for me, it's all fascinating, no doubt. And I mean the newness of the entire situation on both sides is is good for for people like us and what we do for fans and uh, you know, I'm sure we'll be the fan bases will be at each other's next pretty soon, and that's that's the way it should always be in the rivalry. But no doubt, it is exciting. And Louisville, we knew the Louisville
situation, we knew was going to happen. A new coach with Kentucky. I think we thought it was possible. But the way it all played out has certainly given us some entertainment here on this side of things in the last few days. But Kit, I appreciate you as always making the time. I know you're very busy, probably waiting to see if there's some big news breaking any moment now. So we'll let you get back at it, and again thank you as always for spending some time with us. You know,
let me say, let me say this. You know, changes, change is what it is. But you know, sometimes you close your eyes and you think about this man. How lucky were we when we had both Patino and Cali Perry. No doubt about it, no doubt about it. It'll never be there again, we right, we'll never have that, right, No, I don't think so. But it was fun when it lasted. Can't appreciate you, brother, all right. That's Ken Spencer wh S eleven.
Always delivers, always delivers good stuff there, all right. So I'm seeing videos of Cal walking in Have you seen these yet? John? I did see it. It's weird, isn't swaggy cow back? As they say. I'm kind of a fan now I'm a caw guy. I want to hate him. I'm a cow guy now. Yeah. Also, I guess the top signy for Kentucky is quest at a released from his letter of intent. Not sure if that means for sure that he won't be at Kentucky,
but he could be following Cal to Arkansas. But also Scott Drew because it's Baylor and he's Scott Drew. I don't think people realize the guy really recruits at a high level, and if he brings his class with him, that would essentially be you know, not the same thing, but pretty damn close. All right, quick break, we'll come back. Keep this thing rolling along at his Coffee and Company, and we are fueled by Thornton's on Sports
Talk seven ninety. So for our podcast listeners who cannot hear this, the song playing right now is I mean, it's a beautiful song by the One the Only Vince Gill. Don't let our love start slipping away. The love slipped away between John Caliperry and clearly Mitch Barnhardt. I don't think it's ever loved there to begin with. But it's weird, man, I'll just say
it is weird seeing him in all the Arkansas stuff. But one of the things that has happened here and there along the way, and my time spent with the One the Only company man, mister John Alden is to me. I mean, he's he's got better facial hair than me. He could grow beer in five days. I don't think I could do it in five years. He's mature, he's responsible, he's a grown ass man ladies and gentlemen. He's got a mortgage, a wife. I mean, he's out here
as a grown up. But at times I just lose sight of the fact that he's a lot younger than me. And most of it is just because, you know, at times, I forget how old I am. Also, though, to John's credit, he's and I said this when we first started working together, and I think it's not to say anybody that is in their mid twenties is going to be I'm just gonna assume they're childish and immature and you know, knuckleheads. But he, you know, he's different in
a good way. But I thought, John, you don't know who Vince Gill is. And then I'm like, wait a second, makes total sense that he wouldn't know who Vince Gill is because Vince Gill is, you know, a legendary voice in country music. But like Vince Gill has not been like relevant or mainstream, and you know, probably since the time he were born. I will say, though I didn't enjoy that tune, did the voice sound familiar at all? Like, because I'm not trying to think like
what what what? What would be like the one song you could have heard and I don't really know. The melody didn't sound familiar. But the one thing I thought of when I listened to the song is that he just he sounds like what's the guy's name from Rascal Flats. It's Gary song, Yes, Gary v Gary Vaughan something. Yeah, that's that's kind of what this voice reminds me of. All right, So just be honest with me, like, don't don't act like, don't don't don't hear This question is if
I'm trying to lead you in a way or the other. Do you think Rascal Flats is lame? That's a very broad question but easy answers. Yes, yeah, a lot of people do. I think I do too. But they're a guilty pleasure. I learned that recently because there's Rascal Flats song that are songs, not not the one that was in like cars or whatever, but like Rascal Flats is like a guilty pleasure to wear. I'm not seeking it out, but if it's on, I'm I'm I'm vibed. Are
they the nickelback of country music but to a much lower extent? Yes, Yes, to the lower extent for sure. And I don't think they get they never became the punching bag, like that one scenario where they got caught lip syncing it a new I don't remember what year was, but that was maybe what made five or ten years ago. I would so that that guy Gary something for Rascal Flats, which I guess we should probably them Gary.
Yeah, just Gary. H He looks like a Gary too, by the way, He's one of those guys like you mede him and he's like, shakes your hand, Yeah I'm Gary. You think you're damn right, You're Gary. You don't know way you could be anybody else than Gary. You look like a Gary. But he has one of the best voices you'll ever hear. So yeah, Vince Gill also, I think has one of the
best voices. But again when I when I look at his I mean maybe I was just raised right, because some of Vince Gill's most notable songs that like I remember that were big hits on the radio, were out before I was born. So maybe my parents just made sure I, you know, despite it being long before I was born, they wanted to make sure, you know, I was aware or educated. Yeah, exactly exactly. I mean like your parents were probably really really young when Vince Gill was you know,
was was on top. But anyways, shout out Vince Gill. Love some Vince Gill. All right, So if you are just now joining us, welcome in it. It's been an eventful hour and a half here. We had a good convo there, good chat with our man Kent Spencer, and I really appreciate his insight because I know he covers you know, he's been doing this a long time. He covers both teams are locally and and you know Kent has connections and resources in Lexington, you know, on the
UK side and in his line of work. And I know he's broke stories over the years. But he's not someone that's just going to fire up Twitter and send off a tweet, because that's really not the nature of what his job actually is. However, you know, I think he hit it right on the head. And this is probably on a secret, but Mitch Barnhart not wanting cala Perry to be the guy, but kind of being pushed aside by the President and by the late Mike Pratt. Cal Perry's the kind of
guy that wouldn't get over that because it's just how he's wired. That goes back to like him feeling betrayed by certain people that had to at least, you know, not even provide opinion, but just really used the platform to state facts as far as how bad Kentucky was and twenty one and you know how embarrassing the losses have been when you, you know, lose to teams like Oakland and and Saint Peter's. So it's good for everybody, But I
wonder if I wonder, I wonder where the most likely scenario is for one of the sides involved in this to kind of maybe get some buyer's remorse, And maybe buyer's remorse wouldn't be how you would describe Kentucky because they let him walk in and want to keep him, and they won big because they don't have to pay thirty three million dollars and they now can go get a new coach and start fresh. Now will that coach be as accomplished as Calipari?
To be honest, nobody is. There's nobody out there that you could go get that has the resume at Calipari. And again, I know some people say, well wait a second, uh, you know he lost his same we can go get anybody. We can go get somebody off the street to lose to Saint Peter's. You're right, But like again, I talked about this at the end of yesterday show when somebody asked me what grade I would give Caliperry on his time I'm in Lexington in fourteen years. I think it's
an impossible question answer because there's drastically different ways to look at it. If you're asking me as far as just accomplishments alone, four final fours, one national championship, six seven elite eights, I mean a bunch of regular season titles in the SEC, bunch of conference titles in the SEC. As far as the tournament, I mean anybody claiming that that was not a successful run in fourteen years. I just don't know how you would come to that conclusion
unless you are specifically looking at it knowing the talent that he had. So did he have success, Yes, if we're going to just base it off of how we judge success and failure from high level coaches, he succeeded. Did he underachieve Absolutely? Those are really two different questions, and I think the specific you know part of that question again, are you talking about did he do as good as he should have? That's different than saying did he have a run? He had a really good run. And Scott Drew is
a guy that is clearly a accomplished coach with the national championship. But if that's what ends up being made the decision, I should say, if that's who they hire, then I think Kentucky fans would understandably be you know, willing to embrace it and say, hey, this guy, he can recruit really well, he wins. Let's let's you know, start a new era here. But again back to who would be the first to kind of maybe
have a little bit of doubt that this was a good thing. Would it be Kentucky fans maybe wishing that they would have Maybe, you know, I don't really know what Kentucky fans could have done, because they still showed up, right, they still supported Maybe they wouldn't, I mean and cow walked away. Maybe they're displeasure with it being a new era and not being as good as they wanted. They would take it out on Barnhart and saying he should have you know, cave to cal in every way? Is it Scott
Drew who is thinking goodness? Gracious, these people are nuts. What did I Well, he probably wouldn't say good and is gracious because that's probably a cuss word in his mind. To be honest with you, he'd probably say, oh, shucks, shucks, honey, what did I get myself into? Golly geez? What are some really like super like uh, not even politically correct, but like, what are some things you could say to avoid cussing that? Like, lets it lets it be known that you would never
even utter anything close to a cuss word. I think, yeah, golly shucks, something like that, because he may realize, like, hey, this is this is you know, this is crazy. Like these people they love it and they care, But man, I don't prefer this to Baylor
as far as just everything that comes with it. Or is it maybe John Caliperi realizing that like he doesn't have the energy, he doesn't have the fire and drive to just take Arkansas to the tip top of the sport like he did Kentucky because he's burnt out and the only real reason he wanted to move on was because of spiite And that's not enough to drive you to do what needs to be done. Maybe it's Arkansas fans who you know, realize that they have a guy that was elite but ten years ago, you know what
I mean? Like that that that's going to be interesting for me to see how that how that plays out. So the latest on you know, the whole I mean, I guess this is what you would classify as the circus. Is that just the reporting And I'm not I'm not calling anybody out. I'm not saying anybody anything wrong. But the Baylor fans and the Kentucky fans when it became clear that he is now the guy they're targeting. You know, Baylor, I think truly believes that they are not going to lose their
coach. Now. I don't know if you I don't know if he'd be if it would be something that you would expect to hear from a fan as far as oh crap, he's leaving. I mean, I guess you could see something along the lines of hey, I love you, stay, we could never survive without you. That kind of stuff. And it's not that I'm super plugged into the Baylor fan base, because let's be honest, the Baylor fan base is tiny. That's not a shot at him, that's just
the reality. Again, they have five thousand people at their games and that's considered a good crowd. Look it up, not making that up. So the flight, I guess there was a flight that did happen, but maybe I guess now. And I'm looking at Big Blue Jesus' Twitter account himself here just because I do believe he's connected to this as good as anybody, but I'm not sure anybody is truly all the way in the no. But apparently
there was a plane and everybody thought that Scott Drew was on it. However, Scott Drew has I guess, let people know with a Twitter picture that he posted that it was. You know, he's not. He's not on
the plane, he's not having Alex and he's actually in Waco. But it just seems I've never been a part of any of these negotiations something early, sure how it works, but having somebody leave Bayer, leave Waco, I should say, in a in a private plane to go to Lexington to talk about this move without Scott Drew being on it just seems weird to me, Like if it's going to be a conversation between agents or I guess that's all it would be, right agents, why would they need to do it in
person, right, I mean, I just feel like that's that's kind of odd. But anyways, and also there's probably a really good chance that Scott Drew's agent doesn't live in Waco, because who would live in Waco unless you had to live in Waco. But the let me make sure I got yeh. So I've got the sound here from this guy who claims that he called this. So let me just back up a second here. I'll start with the Scott Drew tweet. So Scott Drew tweeted out the picture when everybody thought
he was on a plane to Lexington. He sent out this tweet clearly, uh you know, knowing what it was going to do. But it's a picture of him at a at a Mexican restaurant. And I only say a Mexican restaurant because you can see that they're eating chips in salsa and the me you clearly looks like a menu of a Mexican restaurant. But he says, great spot in Waco on a rainy day. No better friend and supporter than
Eric Shiro of a an Alliance Bank. Well, apparently Alliance Bank is like a big time booster Donor, And let me just ask you this, John, did you think that's like I mean, I think that's him wanting it to be known that he's not on the plane to Lexington. But that doesn't do anything for me as far as thinking he's shooting it down that he's not taking the job, right, Yeah, because you're being I don't want to say politically correct, but you're just you're just kind of saying, Hey,
I'm not on that plane. I'm where I say I am. Now him just posting that he's at lunch is one way to do that. But I also think throwing in the name of a big time booster and who he works for and including him in the picture. Not to overthink it, but that that kind of makes me think that there is something to the fact that like he's like he's wanting people to know that, like he's invested in Baylor.
Now again, if he didn't want the job, I think he'd already tell us buddy that, right, like Mitch would know that he's not going to be the guy, and they'd move on and they wouldn't go through this whole charade of trying to get him if he doesn't want the job. So I still think it's gonna be him. But this led to a Kentucky fan, I guess, figuring out what restaurant they were at, calling it and asking
the lady who answered the phone to go talk to Scott Drew. And I've edited this out to where we can play it without the two curse words. And I don't believe it. It could be possible. I can't prove that it's not real. I just I lean towards this being just one of the things people can say that because of how insane these coaching searches are, and because of how you know, nobody really knows what's going on, people throw out whatever and see what sticks and see what people run with. I feel
like this kind of falls into that category. But again, if it was real, I can't say I'd be totally stunned. So the lady answers. She goes hello, and I go, you need to tell Scott Drew to come to Kentucky and she goes, what Scott Drew, he's at eating at your restaurant. Now you need to tell them to come to Kentucky too. I guess she's a no thing. She was like, oh, so you need to talk to this person. I said, yes. He goes, what is he wearing? He's wearing I was like, uh, look at
the picture. He's wearing a white Baylor polos. Like he's wearing a white Baylor polo. And I hear like talking, She's like, is there someone named Scott here? Blah blah blah. Next thing you know, I hear say, someone's on the phone with you. He goes, I'm not. It was like, I all my life, I'm not Scott. Drew goes, yeah, hello, and I go, Coach, we need your Kentucky. He get laughs and he goes who is this And I go, it's just a loyal fan, Coach, we need you up here. Sorry to
bother you, but enjoy your lunch. He goes, all right, man, that's impressive, thank you. And that's how it ended. I mean, so you believe it. John. There's something about this guy, the way that he speaks in general, that is super unbelievable. Like he just doesn't sound confident in what in the story that he's trying to tell. And I wouldn't expect there to be a British waiter at Yeah that was at Waco Tech. This Mexican restaurant but hey, I'm not familiar with h Waco very
much. Some maybe that's not surprised, but I do feel like if that were true, the response that Scott Drew gave sounds very real. Totally totally agree, totally agree the fact that he like but also that sounds like Scott Drew as far as just what he would do. But then again, the whole scenario where the woman there wouldn't know who he was doesn't make a lot
of sense to me. But then again, we all know that like Baylor basketball doesn't move any needle compared to a place like Kentucky or Lovo for that matter. I mean Pat Kelsey's talk about it yesterday on the acc netwhere he can't get out of his car without like the go karts chan or somebody coming
and talk to him. And if he frequents this restaurant, you'd think the entire staff would know that somebody liked absolute Absolutely so, even if it's not true, it's still one of those things that gained some traction on social media. And I love college sports, man, It's and I can't really put into words why it's just different than pro sports, but like there's a lot
of just give a damn. I guess from fans that's just not even though we now know they're getting paid and we know that there's free agency with the portal all that stuff. I just think because at its core, it was never about that. There was a level of purity to it. It wasn't a transactional thing like in the NBA. It's just it's different. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back on the other side of
wrap up at four o'clock hour. Keep this thing rolling along again. It is Coffee and Company, and we are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. So the lady answers, she was, hell, that's what happens whenever I run the board and just you know, fun start hitting, start hitting the wrong button. So apologies for that, but yeah, I'll learn from it. It doesn't happen that often. But usually I just have a certain set of sounds to my right that I that I that I
used during the show. But today I added that that guy who claims he called to this restaurant and told Scott Drew he needs to come to Kentucky. A lot of people are telling me that that was so random. That who would make that up? Well, people during a coaching search, Well, I mean it's it's the dude sounded like he was making it up. Yeah, kind of. But either way, I don't think it's gonna have any impact on what happens with Scot Drew. But let me tell you guys once
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