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I was about to mention that it was a beautiful Tuesday, but I have no clue what the weather is like right now because I've been in this k for the last two and a half hours. And I wouldn't I wouldn't. I mean, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. But today was kind of like a tease.
Right.
We had the sun out, but it wasn't above like mid fifties, and it was windy. I'm I'm ready for some warm weather and I'm gonna get it next week because I'll be in Florida for our spring break trip and it'll be warmer there then it'll be here. But the last time I went to Florida this time of year, I mean I was reminded that, you know, warmer than where we are, but also like, you know, the ocean's
gonna be freezing. And if it's in the seventies and you're you're on the beach and that winds whipping, like are you I mean you might need to put you know, like a layer on, right, I mean, I know it sounds soft. I'm sure I'll end up, you know, enjoying the sun and you know, showing off this phenomenal body thanks to the Louisville Men's Clinic. But I don't know, like spring in Florida. When I went to spring break many years ago at Panama City when I was like twenty,
somehow survived. But the first year we went, it was warm, like I don't really remember. Well, I was kind of drunk the whole time, so I don't really remember a whole lot about the weather, but I don't remember it being like cold. But the next year we went, it wasn't cold, but it was breezy, like you you know, nobody was getting in any water, and uh, you know, it was better than being back in Kentucky. But anyways, I'll stop complaining because you don't want to hear that, right,
what's complaining do? And when it comes to complaining, that's what a lot of coaches are doing this day and age with the portal and nil and their complaints are a waste of time. But also they have a point that it's way different and it's harder to do their job. They got to make a jugs and that's you know, it's really what a lot of people have to do in every job. I mean, I'm sure there are exceptions, but I imagine a lot of you who've had different
jobs have had to make adjustments along the way. Some were easier to adjust than other than others. But I mean, it's just part of it. So I'll bring that up to start the five o'clock hour because I think of all the different things that are really right in your face that tell you how different college sports is now
than it was five six years ago. I think this graphic that shows where every player starting in the sweet sixteen started their career is the ultimate, Like, damn, this is kind of crazy because there's dudes like, for example, the Kentucky starting five, there was one guy who I couldn't figure out who it was, and then I realized, oh, he's transferred twice, So Kentucky starting five. This is where these guys started their career. San Diego State, Oklahoma, Dayton, Delaware,
and Drexel. I mean, Delaware is where Andrew Carr was before he transferred up to Wake Forest. I mean, you've got a starting five here for Auburn that has one player in the lineup that started his career at Auburn. Everybody else Morehead State, de Kaine, Georgia Tech. And there's a G here that I don't know what that's for. I don't know if that's for. I think it might be for Is it for Greensboro?
I don't know.
I mean, I'm looking at the roster and I don't even know what the G would even stand for. In fact, they've got a guy that came from D two. Maybe it's maybe it's that guy. I'm looking at ole Misses starting five because they of course were in the Sweet sixteen with christ Beard, and I saw Louisville logo and I'm thinking, wait a second, who is in the Sweet sixteen that played at Louisville? And I realized, Oh yeah, a guy who's transferred twice. Drey Davis started his career
at Louisville, ended up at Seaton Hall. Now he's at ole Miss. There's only one starter for ole Miss that's started his career at ole Miss. The others started at Saint Peter's Virginia Tech. Lowiell is mentioned in Vanderbilt. So I think that really is an eye opener, if not that you needed it, that things are a lot different now, but also I think it's it should it should make it to where when you see a guy transferring from a school like Kennesaw State, North Dakota State, Ohio, you're
not worried about can they play. I mean, you never know if they're going to be good or not, but the proof is in the pudding. You you can you can have good. I mean, that's the the all the I'm sorry the Alabama. I mean I just mentioned the Auburn. I mean the number one overall. See that was Auburn. One guy from Auburn. Elsewhere it was Morehead State to Kane, Georgia Tech, and then I think green un see Greensboro. Let's talk about Alabama. Who's going back to the final four.
They've got guys that started their career at Kennessas State, North Dakota State, Ohio. And this is a Power five program, but it's Rutgers the other one. So the only school in the Sweet sixteen that has all of their starters being guys that started their career there. It's a rare program that's successful. And that's Purdue. Purdue's weird, and I mean that in a good way. Matt Painter seems to be a guy that has been able to maintain success
despite all the changes in college basketball. Duke has four. But Duke's also rare because if you're good at Duke, you're likely not going to leave Duke. They have four starters, and by the way, three of them are five star freshmen, I believe, and in fact, I'm not even sure who their four starter is that would be a Dukey. I know the point guard transferred from Tulane. He's the only guy in the starting lineup that did not start his
career at Duke. So I just the visual and again it's not even about and this is what's Maybe it's just my capacity upstairs or lack thereof. You could, like show me a roster and I could, I could, you know, see these guys and then see you know, height, weight, previous school. But seeing the logos of these school for some reason is just what makes it really set in that like, these dudes started their career at at some of them at a lot at a much lower level. Houston,
they've got three starters from that started at Houston. The other tour from Baylor in Oklahoma. And then there's some schools that I like, this is this is the This is the only complaint I have about this awesome graphic that was put together by a Twitter account called NCAA
Buzzer Beaters and Game Winners. They don't give you which school is which, Like I could tell that if you've got four starters who started their career at Michigan State, good chance that's Michigan State, right, But there's one start, there's one Sweet sixteen team that I can't figure out who it is they have. Oh, I think I know now, it's got to be Texas Tech because they've got a Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina Texas Tech, And I think.
Is that.
Howard Howard, which is a small level D one. And then I guess Florida would be the school that has one Gator that started there. And then the rest a Washington State, Belmont Fau and Iona. Yeah, that's because I own Walter Clayton junior. We all know he went to Iona. Therefore that's what that's what makes it clear that it's them. So anyways, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. But what really really seems to be hard to ignore is that he's really all about money.
Right, Like.
If Walter Clayton Junior was at Florida last year, which he was, and he was you know, let's just say Walter Clayton Junior didn't get the same inile money or he didn't get more in ale money after showing last year a Florida that he was a really good player, well he probably would go elsewhere. I mean, Dray Davis, he left Louisville to go to Seaton Hall. Seton Hall, by the way, is believed to be the school with the least amount of nil money in the Power five.
So it's no brainer. Loves loves shean Holloway. In fact, Dre and him are still super close. Drey had a baby while he was at Seaton Hall and it's actually a sad story, not super sad, but she and Holloway shared the story that he had to tell his wife to stop getting so close to his players because they're gonna leave, and like it's just gonna make you sad.
So Dre had a baby with his with his longtime girlfriend and coach Holloway's wife got really close, became really close to just Dre, his girlfriend and the baby, and he left, and you know, she was like heartbroken. But it's just the way it is now. Because money matters in every aspect of life. It does matters a lot. We have some that I think don't prioritize it as much as others because maybe they don't have to, or maybe they're just more you know, they have more integrity.
I don't know, but money now matters in college basketball, and I'm torn because, yes, like that sucks for schools that don't have it, because the likelihood of you being successful, especially long term or consistently, if you don't have any nil money, Like I don't even know how it would be possible to do it, you know, with longevity. So
it sucks. But you expecting players to not do what's best for them and their livelihood because you have a great fan base, Like, that's not realistic, right, Like, compare it to really any other aspect of life. If you are playing at let's say Mark Sears, first team All American, he started his career at Ohio the Bobcats, not Ohio State, Ohio, the Bobcats in the MAC like them, expecting to keep him would really just be charity, right, Like, there's no
way he can make them. I mean, it's him leaving money on the table. And most people in their jobs, yeah, they'll they'll take a job that might pay a little less because they realize they've got a great benefits page or they have less stress. Like sometimes you will, you know, it'll it'll be you'll have a range and maybe you'll take the low end of said range because there's other things that come with it that are just really valuable to you that you know, means more than the monetary
side of it. I mean, that's that's life with a lot of people, right Like people I bet right now know they could probably get a job making more money doing something different, but it wouldn't be that big of a difference, and they're comfortable. Well, like if you're at Ohio, think about the ceiling you have to make money through nil compared to the ceiling you would have at a
place like Alabama. Like the expectation, and again it's hard to just all of a sudden overnight realize that you know, you really can't keep anybody that's worth a certain amount
because you can't pay them. But like most people wouldn't do, Like you would never expect somebody to just okay, I'll stay here because you know, because you can keep in mind, if you're not going pro in the NBA and you're not like a guy that could potentially play the game for a decade at the highest level in Europe, the money you can make in college is life changing for you. So when I say I'm torn, I do feel for
fans that literally this changes everything for them. But also like you being mad about it, again, it's got to be a tough spot from an emotional standpoint as a fan, because let me just give me an example. The San Diego State team that went to the championship two years ago, Like that may be the best example of how Hey, it's not just the mid majors in the MAC or
the Swack or the Missouri Valley. You can be in the Mountain West, Hell, you can be you can be in like the Big twelve maybe or the Big East, certainly the Big East. And if you don't have the right money, like you're gonna lose players. Yeah, they're making some money, but they can make a lot more elsewhere and they know that, and them choosing not to do it would just be a gift to you as a
fan in your program. So San Diego State, I mean again, they made the championship game two years ago, and the starting five that championship game has all they all left. Some stuck around for longer than others, like Lamont Butler stayed one more year. Now he's at Kentucky. He's in the Sweet sixteen. Kashaw Johnson left and went to Arizona.
You've got.
And by the way, they just got. Like Nick Boyd who played at FAU for their I think he was a freshman on their team that went to the final four FAU. He transferred to San Diego State. Well, now he's in the portal as a is a guy that was the leading scorer for San Diego State this year. So he's gonna he us San Diego State for a year, got some money, and now he's jumping trying. He's probably
gonna try to jump up again. They have a guy named Magoon Gwoth who is the newcomer of the Year in the Mountain West and no star recruit who has a lot of potential. He at the Portla yesterday. So you've got a coach like Brian Dutcher who clearly gets guys that not everybody else wants, recruits them, develops them, and then he loses them, and you know, he took what he built to a championship game and then it all,
you know, was gone and he continued. You know, now he's trying to build back up to get there, and he's you know, he's unable to even keep guys around because even without runs to the Final four or the national championship game, they're still doing enough to basically use that level San Diego State to then jump up and go elsewhere, and like that's just that's now where you exist within college basketball, which he does suck, but I also, you know, I mean, I'm gonna read for you, this
is a this is the San Diego State. It's not an NIL collective because I get the logo is similar, but there's a there's a San Diego State nil collective Twitter account that has their coach, Brian Dutcher, basically begging for people to donate money for ANIL and I mean it's kind of sad, but like it's what you gotta do. They apparently have somebody that's willing to do like a five hundred thousand dollars match that kind of stuff, so they're trying. But this is a this is a fan
account it's called as tech tracker. It says pay to play, no transfer set out years, zero INCAA regulations, back alley negotiations, fake agent operatives, contacting players mid season, luring them away. College basketball is no longer the beautiful game. It's a cutthroat, backstabbing hell hole between the haves and have nots. So that's one emotional side of it to where that's a
fan going through it coping pretty, you know pretty. It's a hard cope there from that person who clearly realizes the likelihood of us ever really having sustainable success in college basketball. It just seems hard because you've got to have money. So that's a really tough place to be as a fan. But who are you mad at? Because here's where I would feel the ultimate If I was a San Diego State fan, I would feel helpless because
I wouldn't you know, what do you do? But I wouldn't really know who to be mad at because.
The system is what it is.
Do you want players to not be able to make money? Because that's never happening again never. I mean that's why the settlement took place, to where they told the instable, a, yeah, what you did for you know? Generations really illegal. You got a billion dollar business that is you know, the ntuablea tournament alone, and these guys get free school, they get stipend, they're not going without. They're taken care of.
But look at what is like, you know, you got these guys are actually the show that is helping you generate the billion dollar that the billions of dollars that you get from the n douablea tournament like them, not getting at least a revenue share of that is illegal. So that's why we're here. So again, take the thought out of your mind. And it's hard to do, I guess because in the previous world, where players couldn't get
paid and they couldn't leave, they were stuck with you. Well, now they have power, they have freedom, they can do whatever they want, like most of us in the world, who can just you know, go quit a job, go elsewhere. Right, So it's just a harsh transition for some, including programs like San Diego State.
And I get.
The frustration, but like, who are you mad at if you're med at the ns doable A. I guess you could be mad at them for I guess not having any ability to enforce anything. But I know there's some that just won't accept this, but think about it, like if a guy can or a guy or girl can transfer and be in the band without sitting out, why wouldn't or why why would a football player or a basketball player have sit out? Like that's one of those things that like, I you know, I get it, Like
it's crazy. They have all the power and it's hard for coaches. But let's just talk about like right or wrong. Why should a citizen not be able to just decide where they want to go to school and play without sitting out? Like there's just no, there's no there's no reason for it to. It all just comes down to because it makes it difficult. It's hectic. Coaches would have to you know, it's just harder. Yeah, all that's true,
But we're talking about right or wrong. Why would a player a nineteen year old, twenty year old not be able to just decide where they want to go to school and play. So what would really get me is just not knowing who to be angry at. I just think it was a certain way for so long, and it was really again an archaic model, the amateurism model, and it got body bag toe tagged, it's dead and gone and everything is so different now. And as it plays out here in the early stages, it is the
haves and have nots and fans really are helpless. But like, if your school wants to be good and they want to compete at a high level, they've got to find a way to get money. Easier said than done, right. Everybody wish is they could just find an easy way, but like you have to invest in a team, really maybe a department that is just out there to raise funds. And that's why you have the collectives and they're important,
they matter. Like Louisville has a great collective. That's why they are believed to have a really big bank roll to go build a roster, or because Louisville. I think what happened is Louisville prioritizes basketball in a major way.
Well we've always known that, but I think, just just a hunch, the reason you're seeing the report from A three Sports that Louisville has apparently eight million dollars to spend on their basketball roster is because I think everybody saw in the last two years combined the last year of Kenny, first year of Pat Kelcey. It's not that we didn't know this, but we saw it firsthand. We
experienced it firsthand. Everything around here is not as good and valuable business life like louis basketball needs to be prioritized not only by the school but by the city. So when Louisville basketball is good and it's it's it's something people want to be a part of, want to go to games, They want to go watch games at businesses,
at sports bars, that kind of stuff. Like I think if there's I mean, I know football is always going to matter a lot as well because it's the biggest payday you get when you open up your stadium and let fans come in. And obviously the TV deals with the with the networks and the football like that's what
really pays the bills. But if there's ever like a moment where Louisville Athletics or maybe the city as a whole, as far as you know, those who want to give money to NIL collectives to pay players because they want to support and they want it to be good. Like if we got down to where okay, you can only you only got this money, and it's got to go here. It needs to go to basketball I mean, I know football matters, trust me, I'm not trying to act like
it doesn't. But this city's rare. Man, when Louisville basketball, I mean you you couldn't go get a seat anywhere last Thursday at noon in Louisville. And it's because Louisll was playing, right, the tournament's always gonna have people coming to watch it, but like it was different because Louisville was back a part of it. And I just think that you now know that, hey, you're gonna get what you pay for in every aspect.
Right.
They're putting a new deal together together for Kelsey, I'm sure, and that's because you got to keep him here because you've got to keep this rolling, and you've got to round up money to pay these players to come here because Louisville basketball it needs to be good for everything else to work. I mean, you could still have success elsewhere, but like louis of basketball, we saw three years really of it just being something we hope to never see and then this year to kind of see that resurgence.
And I know we still didn't have sellouts and that kind of stuff, but each game, the attendance grew, the energy, grew and we made a huge, huge jump in year one as far as getting back to where we want to be, and I think that was evident. Therefore not a huge shock to see that the money's there. I do feel bad because I that, you know, like whenever I seek fans complaining about college sports being terrible because of you know, you got to have money. I mean again,
you gotta have money in every aspect of life. College sports was the pure thing that I guess didn't involve money that made it to where you could, you know, escape reality of the real world. But now here we are money matters. You got to pay to get players, and you know some can and that sucks. Does it mean to respond to the people with this Austin?
How the money off the poor people around?
What's your procrast?
I saw that on Twitter?
Is that pretty cool?
It was great? I literally was just scrolling and saw that.
Sorry, anyways, we'll take a quick break. We'll come back on the other side. If you are a sports better I got to know what you would do with this insane cash or hedge decision that one better has where there's a lot of money that he could have right now, but even more money if Duke wins the national championship. We'll talk about it on the other side right here on Sportsbok seven ninety.
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I'm definitely past the age where I think about liking an artist based off of like is it cool to like them or not? But is it cool to like Post Malone, Because I, yeah.
Post he's cool. I think he's.
I think he's really talented, you know, really creative. I feel like he could kind of just you know, he could get creative with any genre, any project, and it'll probably it'll probably work.
Well.
Yeah, he's really like I mean, I know it's probably overstated, but he's just like a vibe.
Yeah, And he's and he's been consistent as far as I think, like, you know, he.
I'm trying.
I feel like he's been famous for long enough to where he's he's still uniquely his own person, you know what I mean, Like he has you know, I think when he initially popped on the scene with White iverson, I'm not sure anybody would have predicted he'd be where he is now and going in different directions. But I remember this because it was a big deal. Do you remember the and I'm sure they still do it, but the freshman cover of the XXL magazine, Yeah.
Of course that So for those who don't follow every.
Year the XXL magazine, which is a hip hop magazine, they have a freshman class to where they basically pick I think it's like six seven, maybe eight different you know artists that have really you know, blown up that year and kind of made their mark in that industry and that genre. And he was He turned it down twice, maybe three times, and it was because he didn't want
to any He just didn't want to be labeled. Honestly, it was a smart move for him because it was you know, and I'm sure he's still got criticism, and everybody gets criticism when you're that level of famous and that successful, but it was something that stood out to me is at that time it was a really big
deal in him turning it down. I didn't know was he'd be in a snob but he just said, look, appreciate the honor, but I don't want any I don't want I want to do as much as I can throughout my career as an artist to not be specifically thought of in one in one genre, you know what I mean. And you know he was, Yeah, he was
more popped than anything. But like and he's you know, there's a there's there's some that have come from I guess his background where you know, he's not somebody who has maybe the same story, the same background as a lot of people who've become super successful in the world of hip hop. But though in those people who you know, I guess, maybe portray something that they're not in order to really get big in that world. They're called culture
of culture vultures the stuff. For me to say, I think he had a good radar for that to where he was at all times going to not try to like, you know, go there to where he could be accused of just trying to maybe be something that he's not in order to you know, take over a certain industry or something. But yeah, I mean again, I don't know what's cool and what's not anymore. But I've always felt like he's really talented. Yeah, and I'm a fan. He's done the rock thing.
He did like a track with Ozzy Osbourne and my god, he auto tune that one to death, cause you have to with Ozzy oh gosh, like that one was still a good song. And then obviously he's dipped in his toe into the country music side. And I was actually expecting him fro Bourbon and beyond this year because I know that, you know, he's it's it's the new gimmick, right that he's doing. And he just released a country album that maybe he would do some do some tours,
but he still hasn't. He's he's kind of like joining people like Morgemall and and stuff, I mean post Alone and Luke Combs. It and something that I knew I needed until I got it, you know what I mean.
I mean, I love some Luke Combs too. See the same here, same here, good stuff.
And you know post Malone's name is Austin.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, I think it's like Austin Posts.
I knew that he he comes from a family, uh and well, and I think it's just his dad, but his dad has worked for the Dallas Cowboys for like decades. Is like not a front office guy, like within the roster, but like I think he's like he's in charge of like the marketing ticket ticket stuff.
So that's pretty cool. Yeah, he explains his fandom.
I guess I remember being in of all places, I was in Phoenix, Arizona where you used to live, Arizona, Phoenix, and I remember I was I was on a work trip. This is so many years ago, and at the time, SoundCloud had become a real big way for people to show and it may still be. But he posted not as big as it was White Iverson on SoundCloud like maybe three weeks prior to me realizing what it was, and it had already blown up at the time, and I remember like, I don't know what this is, but
it's kind of awesome. And then sure enough, here he is. He's insanely famous, all right, it's Coffee and Company fuel by Thornton's. We're insanely famous too, maybe kind of no, damn right, we are maybe trying to just transition and where nobody would you know, nobody notice, but maybe we're not. You know, we're not famous, but we're having fun again. We're fueled by Thornton's. That's we got that going for us.
So appreciate you hanging out. We got about twenty five minutes left here and I've never put together one of these wagers, but I want to it sounds fun where you go through and you just decide to guess who's gonna win the national championship in these college events as well as pro you know, pro sports, Super Bowl, that kind of stuff. So there's somebody that has the ultimate cash out or ride scenario here. So this this guy put five dollars on Tennessee to win the World Series.
That happened.
That was plus six fifty. He put in the same pat Another leg here is the La Dodgers to win the college or to win the World Series plus three hundred. He got that Ohio State to win the national championship in football plus four fifty. And then his fourth leg was the Philadelphia Eagles to win the Super Bowl. That was plus sixteen hundred. So he has one leg left on this parlay, and that is for Duke to win
the national championship. That is plus eleven hundred. So that five dollars wager if he cash is out now, will pay him fifty thousand dollars. Or he could let it ride and make one hundred and sixty eight thousand dollars instead.
What would you do?
Man?
To me, it's easy, but I want your thoughts first.
Oh, it's panicing right now.
I'd easily cash out, easily cash yeah.
I mean you can't predict what the term because I know that's you know how much you say was a bet again, I'm sorry he only bet five bucks?
Oh yeah? To cash out?
Yeah, because one, you're already getting an insane return on that investment, and again if if Duke wins it, you'd get an even bigger one. But I would cash out and really laugh at anybody who told me, like, let's say you cashed out and Duke did win, I would I would laugh at anybody who would try to clown me for cashing out. Right, you know what I'm saying, you're still fifty gs.
But and you could have lost it.
Yeah, you lost all of it, Like that's what it comes down to.
And I know that.
You know we're talking about three times more when it you know, if it does, if you let it ride and it hits, and that's great, or you could have nothing like I'll tell you know, I will easily take five dollars invested to get fifty grand and know that, like, you know, maybe I could have got more. And I just don't even think if I lost. I'm sorry, let
me back up. I don't think even if I took the cash out and then Duke won, I would feel any way, because I just would know that I put five dollars in and that was the right thing to do, and that risk to get nothing when you had fifty g sitting there off five dollars bet it's just a no brainer, right, I.
Mean, imagine how terrible you'd feel afterwards letting it ride and then watching Duke like something happened. They fumble it down the down up. Because the tournament's so hard to produce.
Oh dude, the best team often does not win, you know, right, So I mean I would easily cash out, And I say that probably a little bit more strongly than I would have a year ago, because I I don't, you know, I don't. I don't bet a lot of money on anything, right Like I now am betting more than I ever do because it's that time of year to where I'm gonna do my annual cash out once the college basketball
season comes to an end. So when I've only got you know, a certain amount left to bet on, I find myself being a little bit more risky, not to the point where if I lose, I'm gonna have nothing
to take out at the end of the season. But I've had this year specifically that I could have cashed out and I and I didn't, And more often than not, I'm like, you were stupid, Like you know, yeah, you could have got two hundred and fifty, but one hundred and thirty was sitting right there, like it's just the safer considering I'm placing such like, you know, twenty bucks here or there. Like to me, it was just I
feel like I've been burned enough by bye bye. I've been burned by being greedy and not realizing, hey, I should just cash out and move on. And usually if I do cash out, I want to I'll try to intentionally not find out what happened in the next one, because it would be a bummer to know that that you know, you were weak and you didn't let it ride.
But I feel laser just so hard to hit exactly.
If you're ever on the fence about cashing out of parlay when you've got a leg left, that'll give you more juice. Obviously, consider the numbers, and I don't have them in front of me, but I'm sure you've heard them, and they're easy to find and that is that. I mean, they're sucker bets right. The books love when you bet parlays because it's free money more often than not to them.
So if you've already got them in a position to where where they're cashing you out, where you're still making a really good return on what you bet initially, you've already won. Like, if they're offering you a cash out, you've already beat them. Yeah, because they're offering you you know, they're allowing you to concede. Now, you could also bury them if it's a real big payday at the end, but the likelihood of that happening is insanely rare and I've learned the hard way when it comes to that.
So again, think about it that way. If you have bet ten bucks on a five leg parlay and you got one leg riding or to completely cash, but they're offering you, you know, one hundred bucks, and again it all depends on what the odds were as far as what you put together for your parlay. Just know you've already beat them. And I feel like if you have that mindset, you can you can cash out and not look at it like I'm leaving money on the table.
They got me.
No, they've already they're offered to you to cash out.
Is is them losing.
That's exactly what it is. And you know, sometimes it's tougher to do because you want to stick it to the books, right, you want to bury them. But there's a reason why they do a lot better than us in most instances. All right, real quick, before we get to our last break, some breaking news here. This is from a lot of folks, but I saw it here from our news team overt News Radio eight forty whas UFL's board of trustees. They planned to meet at five
o'clock tomorrow to discuss personnel matters. I would imagine that this will be a new contract for Pat Kelsey.
Don't know that. I'm just guessing. Trust me.
I have no.
Sources or no information, but I would imagine that would be That would be what it is. Quick break, we'll come back and wrap it up on the other side. Stick around right here on Sports Talk seven ninety.
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So Kevin Willard, he is apparently in the driver's seat here to take the Villanova job if he wants it, And I don't think he wants it, but I think he wants Maryland to know that they've got to they gotta they got to get figured out to where he has more resources for men's basketball or he will leave.
Now what I don't know is I mean I doubt he'd do something, or he could do something to where he would, like, you know, put himself in a position to where he ruins his gig at Maryland, because like Villanova, maybe they don't wait around, like maybe they realize, Okay, we get it, Kevin, You're you're in a spot here, but we got to make a move. We got to go build a roster we got to use the portal, So maybe they hire Richard Pattino instead of Kevin Willard,
and then Kevin Willard. You know, Kevin, Kevin Willard has has really Like if I was Villanova, I would do my best right now to try to determine is he really interested or is he just using us to potentially get more from Rutgers or for Maryland. I'm sorry, but let's be honest. Maryland, Maryland doesn't he didn't have a boss right now. Maryland's ad just left to take that job at SMU. So this is just fascinating, at least
to me. Maybe it isn't to you. But there's an interview Kevin Willard, did you know, just a couple of days before he has to play Florida? Or he is so bluntly speaking on things that a lot of coaches say for private conversations, but he is, you know, he's out in the open about it, and if anything, I can just appreciate the transparency. Here's Kevin Willard earlier in a radio interview in DC.
A really good women's program with a phenomenal lacrosse soccer program. This is not him yet, you know, I don't want to take basketball. You know, there's schools out there that are going to be able to do things that we can't do. So I don't I don't want I don't want someone telling me, especially since I don't have an athletic director. I don't want someone telling me that we're going to do it. I want to put in my contract.
I don't want people making decisions about my program who aren't involved in my program, that make decisions that affect my staff life, my life, but doesn't affect their life. So those are big ones for me because you know, I live it, breathe it every single day, and again, you know, I want I want this place to be the best as you know, this fan base expects that, but it you know, to be personally honest that hasn't been treated that way for a long time, and my goal is to get it there.
So I think everything he said is reasonable. It's just not something you hear coaches ever say publicly, especially when they're you know, two days away from potentially moving on to the Elite eight. But if you're Kevin Willard, like let's read the room here, do you think Villanova is in a better position than Maryland to give you what you need like they're not. Maryland is in the Big ten.
That alone puts them in a different tax bracket. As far as resources, now, what is the real kicker here for him is that he's not only you know, he doesn't just want to have conversations with people about what he's going to get as far as resources for his program. He wants it in the contract to where you know they if they break it, you know he can leave
and no buyout. I mean, I don't know, so I don't know if that happens elsewhere, but wouldn't be a shock because there are coaches that have have complained about I was told this would happen and it didn't, so I doubt he leaves. I think he'll be Maryland's coach moving forward, because let's be honest, Maryland's a good job like Villanova. I mean, I don't know, we're in such a weird world. We're a weird world now to where
Nova's got two championships in the last decade. But honestly, money matters in a major way, and they don't have that like Maryland does. And I just I think historically Villanova's a better job, much better job, but Maryland I mean, I feel like that would be I mean, it would be foolish to leave Maryland for Nova. But if he thinks that what he's doing now is not sustainable, then maybe it would make sense to jump because he feels like, Hey, we had a good run here, but this I can't.
I can't keep this going because we don't have the resource.
We don't have to help.
All right, that'll do it for us. Appreciate you guys hanging out now. I'm gonna go watch the n I T because I got that n I T fever. We got Chattanooga Bradley tonight. We're taking Bradley minus three and a half. How about little North Texas Oklahoma State.
What's the spread on that one?
North Texas plus one? I kind of like it.
What's that over under?
Like one thirty six and a half?
Give me under.
I also like Illinois State minus six and a half against Incarnate Word. There you go, baby, who talks in it like us?
Nobody?
I felt like I bet on a lot Earlier in this basketball season. There were a few parlays that included incarnate Word that I'm pretty sure that won me money.
So they're fresh in my brain, and that plus six that stuff you remember, is it not. Yeah, they're plus six and a half.
Let's go, let's go incarnate word. Have a good night, everybody,
