It's time for coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day, Now here's Nick Coffee.
I don't want to mislead you guys and act as if there are conversations that the company man and myself have during the commercial breaks that you know, you guys just wouldn't believe. I mean, sometimes we say things that you know, we wouldn't be able to say on the radio. But honestly, I kind of feel like, you know, at least from from my end of it, there's not much that we talk about that I would want to like, you know, be like, it's not like we're telling secrets
or anything like that. But John just did something during the break that he didn't know what he did or what he's done now, but he's got me ready. I wasn't ready for Louisville Miami until about ninety seconds ago when John said big game, brom Is showing up. We were talking about some wagers we're going to make this weekend. And I have an influence because I've not necessarily expressed a whole lot of confidence in Louisville here. I think they can win, but I'm still a kind of you know, well,
I was kind of a wait and see. Now I'm ready because that October surprise from Jeff Bram happens annually, and maybe this is it. I'm hoping it's it. John has made me think that it's it because he's he's saying big game, Bram is showing up. And if that's the case, then that would be it'd be good news for Louisville. And there's a lot on the line here. I mean, let's be honest, this would be a win
against the number six team in the country. When's the last time Louisville beat a team that was ranked that high? Got to be Florida in the Sugar Bowl has to be. I mean, I'm not even really sure how many other wins you have against top five, top ten teams. You go to the Florida State game when Lamar Jackson really won the Heisman and never looked back. So I thought I was ready for the game. Now I know I for sure am so thank you John. It'll be a sellout.
By the way, for those just now joining us, maybe you're just now hopping in your car avoiding that hailstorm that appears to be going on out there somewhere. In the Kentucky and A region. I'm seeing people posting pictures and clips of it, but sellout, which hey kind of surprised. In fact, I'll admit it, I am surprised. If you'd have made me guess, will this thing be a sellout? I just I kind of would have said not even close. And it's not because, like I'm saying, Louisville fans are terrible.
It's just it's noon. Like a lot of fan bases don't like noon games. I think Louisville fans specifically don't like noon games, probably no different than anybody else. But I've just been around here long enough to know that noon kickoffs are really an open invitation not to come for a lot of fans. It's just kind of how it works. I don't know if that exists, an open invitation not to come somewhere, but like it's it's like your RSVP that you're not going if you find out
it's at noon. So it should be a great atmosphere, beautiful weather, and again a lot is on the line, and that has me very excited. We had a really good conversation there in the four o'clock hour with David Hale ESPN, who covers the ACC and you know, I think his analysis is pretty spot on when it comes
to this matchup. Louisville could potentially expose a secondary that might, you know, a week secondary for Miami, and I think they've got the quarterback to do it, and they've got the receivers to do it, especially Jacorey Brooks, and maybe this is a big Colin Lacy game. However, is the offensive line which is Louisville's weakness, especially on offense. I mean, I think you could probably say at this point the
offensive line is probably the weakness of the team. The defense at times has been, but it's it's really I mean, I think that's more coaching and communication than it is just knowing you've got, you know, bad players on defense. And I'm not saying we got bad offensive linemen, but that that clearly is a position that we just have to acknowledge is not a strength and you're gonna have
to scheme around that. So we all know Miami's really good upfront defensively, I mean, dudes that are going to play in the NFL, can the offensive line step up and play well enough to where Tyler Shuck's got you know, a little bit more time back there to make a play, because if he's running for his life, that's not ideal. Now, I actually again, it's not something you want. But I think at times when he does take off run and
you know, he's made some plays. I mean, he did it against Notre Dame, and I think he's a mature quarterback that is wise enough to know, hey, let's let's eat this one and live to play another down here and not get hurt or not turn it over. And I like that. But then again, there's also some times where I'm like, all right, man, I know you're a little fragile, but you know, how about you, how about you reach the ball out to the sticks to try to get a first down? Like that? That droves me
insane when that happens. Whenever I don't believe that there's a lack of awareness as to where you are and where the sticks are. But it's like he's just being super you know. I give him the benefit of the doubt because of his injury history. He's a seventh year senior for a reason, but you know, he's been so good in my opinion, and I think most agree that, like he's the last guy that I'm gonna throw a lot of criticism out there for I mean everybody. I mean,
he's made mistakes, nobody's perfect. But again to circle back, and it's really it's a broken record for me. I just I'd rather Louisville be four and two. Actually, I don't know. I was about to say something that I'm not even really sure I would have believed it as I said it. I was about to say I could live with it, and it would be better if Louisville was four and two, and we just got humbled because
you know, what are you gonna do? Notre Dames elite this year, which they're not or smu man, that's a team that you know, they've got a once in a lifetime talent at quarterback or you know, at running back or whatever it may be. And I do think they've got some good players, but that really wasn't why you lost. So to be here and it be because of literally
your own mistakes, like that's just it's maddening. But a win here doesn't make that go away, doesn't mean that that didn't happen, but it could certainly be the first, in my opinion, real sign that you have taken a massive step forward when it comes to just hurting yourself. And somebody on the text line mentioned this last week, and we've had somebody else say the same thing essentially earlier today when we were talking talking about this matchup
with David Hale. And you're right, mistakes happen. And if you go back and look at Louisville's penalties and whatnot, like it's not like it's an egregious amount. I mean,
still there's more than that needs to be there. But I feel like when Louisville's made a big mistake, rather it be a silly penalty or just a goof snapping the ball over the punter's head, Jeff's puzzling decisions to go forward on fourth down and run certain plays like they come at crucial times, Like the timing of your mistakes is a big factor and winning and losing a
ball game, because everybody makes mistakes, nobody's perfect. But if your mistakes come when the game's on the line, you know, when you get a delay of game on fourth and one with the game on the line, like that, I mean, delay games happened, having it happen in that situation quite literally, the worst possible scenario for that to happen. So again here I am mentioning all the things that have led to them being foreign to and a little underwhelming and
you know, frustrating for fans. But that's out the window now because John said big Game brom is going to be there on Saturday, and I have no reason to think that's not true, not just because I trust the company man himself, but like, no pressure, Jeff, but like this, this is the game you win, man, this is kind of what you do. I mean, how long has it been since he lost a really big game and now they got crushed in the Big Ten championship in his
last year with Purdue. But man, that's a great question, because he lost two games. He lost games against the elite teams way more often than he won them when he was at Purdue. It's just he would do it in like the most unlikely spot to where it became like a thing. I mean, his brand within college football, not to say that he's viewed as one of the best coaches in the game. I think clearly there's a lot of respect for Jeff Brahm as a head coach,
and I think that's deserved. But he's built it up doing it as many times as he did it at Purdue. And really there was two different years at Purdue during his what six years there where it was just, hey, you know, they beat three ranked teams one year and I think they only finished six and six, So you know, he's he's he's had those kind of years. And then
beating Notre Dame last year it furthered. Two things that were said about Jeff before last year, before he coached his first game at Louisville, both kind of proved out to be true last year. One, Hey, he'll mess around and he'll win that game against a big team where
you know the opportunities there. He'll have his guys ready, he'll call a game that is perfect in what you need to do to Maybe not perfect, but you know exactly what you need to really scheme your way to a victory against a team that you flat out and no probably has better players than you. Like, he's done that at Purdue, and he did it at Louisville Notre Dame last year. But then he'll turn around and lose to a team that you have no business losing to.
Like both things that were said about him. One is a real big positive. The other is clearly a negative. Both kind of played out last year to be accurate.
So this year's been a weird year for Jeff. Like I went back and looked at his his time at Purdue, and there really isn't any and even a Western there was no There was no season that I feel like is comparable to this one, meaning where where you look the part at times, but then you just make silly mistakes and again broken record, you take away four mistakes out of many more than just four in those two games that you've lost, and you could be sitting here
six and oh, and we'd still kind of be saying, like, man, we're lucky to be six and oh, and we could be even better. We could be, you know, dominating these teams if we didn't do such silly things here and there, we didn't have any defense that's never organized, all that kind of stuff, you know. But it just sucks to have to take l's and learn that. It'd be nice to have those things that you know you got to work on and you know, make gradual progress, but you're
still able to find ways to win. And I've heard this from a few people this year, and I haven't really talked about it, and I'm just reminded about it from the text line, and that is, like, I know, last year, Louisville had a lot of close games they could have lost, but you know what they didn't do. They didn't they didn't make huge mistakes in close games late. I mean, they just didn't. They found ways to win close games. And yes, you can chalk it up as luck.
There's always luck involved to an extent, but also I think you can develop the ability to make winning plays late in the game to give yourself a chance to win, and I think they did that pretty consistently last year until the very end of the season, and this year it's just been the opposite. You know, they're putting themselves in a position to where they're there with a chance to win the games that they've lost, but the critical
mistakes happened that weren't happening last year. I mean, again, just my opinion, and I'm sure there's some that agree, and maybe there's some that don't agree, and that's fine. I'm just going to be honest with you. I think Lowell's more talented than they were a year ago. The only area where I would say that, yeah, they're not is the offensive line and at running back. But then again, Isaac Brown, that guy's pretty special. You don't have a Grendo, or you don't have a duo like what you had
with Jordan and Grendo last year. But Isaac Brown, I mean, when he got a healthy dose of carries against Virginia, he proved to be more than serviceable as you're running back despite being a true freshman. All right, So coming up on Saturday eleven o'clock, we'll get the pregame show started with myself, yours truly, the louisvill Football Pregame Show presented by Pillow Windows and Doors of Central Kentucky and
Jefferson Animal Hospital. And then after the game, as soon as it ends, we'll go live for the Louisvilleootball postgame Show presented by Alex rwhit Lawyer's Sudistractage driver dot Com. All right, let's talk some basketball, shall we. So Pat Kelsey had a press conference earlier today. I think he's only had a few press conferences since he's been here,
but this was probably the longest. Well I don't know, I lied because I'm sure he was on the at the podium for nearly an hour or maybe an hour whenever he got hired, But he talked for over thirty minutes, and you know, it wasn't as if there was anything surprising that came from that. But as he was wrapping it up, I think this might have actually been his closing answer when he was asked sort of about now he's here getting ready for an exhibition opponent and the
season is actually here. They're practicing like you know, it's here, and he's done all kinds of promoting and you know, being a hype man. And when I asked him this last week at the ACC tip off, you know, I said, hey, is this something you genuinely enjoy? And I knew he was going to give me the answer that he gave me as far as like it it, you know it it's a privilege to be able to promote the program and be here, and he means all that, but you know,
it's what a coach would say. But but what really stood out to me in his answer, even though it was kind of expected, is that, like he was listing all that comes with that, right, like being on campus, throwing T shirts, that kind of stuff. I could see why he loves doing that, or maybe just enjoys doing it more than most coaches because he's good at it. Right now, Again, if you do all that and you don't win games and there's no results, then it's not
a good recipe. But like I think it makes sense for a guy to not mind it because he knows that he's effective at it. And oh, by the way, it matters when you are coaching at a program like Louisville fan you need to engage with your fans. It's a big part of it. Again, you got to win. But until you can do that, he's done all the little things and I shouldn't even call them little things because they're not little. They matter a lot, and he's
done it. And the energy, the overall vibes surrounding Louisville basketball. You know, we'll see. Maybe we're way wrong here as far as what's going to happen this year, but I happen to think that they've got a chance to be pretty damn good, and even if they're not elite, and maybe they're sweating it out for a spot in the tournament. I mean, we have no clue how it'll play out, but let's just say that's the case. I think they
are going to be fun to watch. And and I hate saying this because again it's it's not the bar. But man, likes, we're all human beings, aren't we when you go through what you went through recently? Even if Louisville's nowhere near what we expect them to be when things aren't, you know, like they've been in recent years, like this is gonna be fun, man, I think Louisville fans are gonna have a lot more fun than they even realize when it comes to you know, like beating
exhibition opponents. That's not something that you would ever be, you know, throwing a party about. But we lost those games last year in the year before that, which is scary. But here's Pat's clip that I wanted you guys to hear because again it I think it, if it, if it, if you're not fired up for hoops season, this should this should this should help you when it comes to that.
So it has been a lot of a lot of stuff, right, A lot of events, a lot of speak engagements, time on campus, time out in the community, and I've loved it. I've just gotten such a sense and a feel for Louisville, the people, what this place is about. So I've loved every second of it from that standpoint. In terms of me being out there, the Hayes a little bit in the barn, Like I'm locked in on our dudes right now.
That doesn't mean I'm not gonna be on campus riding around the golf court throwing T shirts out, but uh, but yeah, the Hayes in the barn a little bit in that regard. I guess what, hopefully everybody that's you know, watching your broadcast, what what whatever, uh, whatever news station, radio station that you come from, is is just a just a last shout out that that that we need you.
I keep hear Peyton talk about the atmosphere at the YOUM and what it was like when there's twenty two thousand people there, and to hear him tell recruits and the hair stands up on my arm. My heart beats fast when I hear it. And this team's done everything they've can since June fifth to build ourself to the point we're ready to take that floor and make this city, this fan base, this student body, these former players, and our alumni proud. But let's do it together, right this
isn't just my team. This isn't our players team. This is the student's team, this is your team. This is Louisville's team. And this journey that we're starting together, we're gonna have ups. We're gonna have up ups, and we're gonna have some downs. We're gonna have doing this thing together, sticking together and making this one of the great eras in the history of our city. And I'm excited to get started. I'm blessed to be the head coach here and let's go. Let's get it started.
So that was the end of his pressor today. And you know, I again, words don't mean a whole lot whenever you don't have result. But we haven't got there yet. And I have learned a lot about myself as a louis A fan, and not everybody's different. I'm not saying that. You know, maybe I'm the only one that feels this way. I doubt it, but either way, it's just what I've
learned throughout this whole process. When we obsess over this and we love it so much, and it's such a big deal to us, meeting the Louisville basketball program, the Kentucky fans relate that it's the same way with them. It's a lot bigger deal to us than it is most places when it comes to how much we love our college basketball. Same thing for John he's an Indiana fan. It's just different around here with these three programs than it is in most places as far as just how
much we care. And you know, it's probably not healthy, but it's the way we are and I wouldn't have
it any other way. So whenever you've been just so down, it's nice to have somebody that is giving you good energy and is you know, and it may all be nonsense, like maybe it doesn't work out, but until then, you know, like if we hired a coach that had a little more on the resume than Pat Kelsey, that you know, has accomplished a little bit more as far as maybe making a deep run at a different school, like a Dusty May, we would just we would be super excited
because it's new and it's not what it once was. That's I mean, that alone is worth celebrating. But I don't you know, if you don't have the personality that Pat Kelsey has in the energy that he has, would
we be as excited as we are right now. I mean, we'll never know, so, you know, silly hypothetical, I suppose, But I just I feel like I've learned that, you know, a fan base that is so damaged, I guess, I mean, and maybe maybe I should say we were damage because again, I feel like the energy's in a pretty good spot now. But like having somebody that can do everything he's done since he got hired, until he can coach a game,
it matters in a major way. And I've always known that it mattered to an extent, but it's just been a real experience to see that if you're not doing this kind of stuff and you're just average or you're not good, and you don't win games, like it's a recipe for disaster. And again, most importantly, you gotta win. He ain't coached a game yet, but all the other
stuff until then it does matter. And that's why I think when they come out and they played Tennessee in their second game, a preseason top twelve team, I think that arena is gonna be pretty damn full. Maybe it won't be a sellout, I don't know. It's tough to mean, tough to predict, to be honest with you, and even if they don't sell it out, I'm still gonna watch the game and enjoy it and know that the fans that are there are probably gonna be rowdy if the
team's playing well. But I mean like it it. He's done a good job getting us to this point and we'll see where it goes from here. But it's just nice to be in a different situation this year, this time around than we were a couple of years ago. All Right, for those who missed it, I'll let you guys hear it. On the other side, we got to
get to a break, but he was asked about Rick Patino. Patino, of course, made his return to Lexington for Big Blue Madness, and he was asked by one of the local TV stations. I think it might have been WHS eleven that asked him about Patino ever coming back, and we'll let you hear his answer. On the other side, also, Mark Pope taught today at the SEC Basketball Media Days, and I know he's a made man right now in Lexi then,
just like Pat Kelsey is in Louisville. But he said something about Calip Perry that I know, even if Kentucky fans won't acknowledge that they won't say it. I know you don't agree with one thing he said about Cali Perry. All right, we'll get to that in a lot more. Keep it locked right here. It's coffee in company. Feel about Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety So I actually want to hear this clip back. I played it earlier for you guys who might have missed it, and it's
worth hearing. But pat Kelsey was asked about Rick Patino, given that he went back to Lexington, if he'd ever be able to come back to Louisville. And some have said, well, now Rick can't claim it's not because he doesn't have an invite. I think you can. Well, well, let's just listen to it, because I'm not sure it was like a direct invitation. It's just like, hey, if he ever wants to come back, that would be great. But is that considered an invite? Let's listen and see see what we think here.
Turn into his former team that he helped to win a championship. Could you see something like that happening here? And you know, what is your thoughts on Rick Patino return here? And my second question is you and Chris Mack have switched Rose. Have you guys talked about or given any advice about your new jobs.
We haven't talked in a while, but we talked early on. Obviously, it's like, what is that seinfed Bizarro world were kind of like flip from one to the other. It's kind of kind of interesting. I know he's a big Seinfeld guy. As far as as far as Coach Patino going back to Kentucky, I mean, gosh darn, that was a captain on a national championship team, you know, and the man loves his players and he was there to support his player.
I have one of his former players on my staff and Peyton Seeve, and Peyton Seva loves him, and I know he loves Peyton Steve. I feel like, in some ways Coach Patino's around here more than people think because of Peyton. I get a Patino as him every couple of days or so and bring them all on man, because that cat's a Hall of Famer. He's one of the best coaches in the history of college basketball. So obviously we'd love to have him back. And he's always welcome here. Icon in this city and icon and.
Coaching, I guess that is kind of an invite, right John, Like we'd love to have him back. He's welcome anytime. I mean, that's not hey, we're going to send the you know we're gonna send It's not an invitation of the mail. But at least it's clear that it's kind of like my door is always open type of thing. Yeah, I mean, and I'm not surprised by that answer at all with Coach Kelsey, but I you know, I also realized there's a lot of coaches that like wouldn't like
to hear it. People talk about former coaches around here now that they've taken over the program. I mean, again, that goes back to what I talked about with Pat from day one. That stood out that I wasn't really thinking about and I wasn't really expecting one because I didn't know him. But he was well aware of the situation. He read the room and still has been able to
do that. Like he you know, he knows that Louisville fans weren't lining up to you know, let Josh heard, no, please, you need to go hire this guy, but he really you know, that's how it worked out, and clearly Josh was impressed with what was said and and and how Pat pitched himself with the gig. But you know, it's probably the last time we'll be bringing up Rick Patino in a long time around here. But at least now he can you know, it's it's out there that he
was he was. You know, it's quite clear if he wants to come back, he can't now. Another person brought this up on the text line, and I don't really know the answer to it, but it's a good it's a good point that I hadn't thought about, Like if he did want to come back, and Pat Kelsey was all for it, like would the school want it to happen? I mean, I don't know why they wouldn't at this point,
Like what's the harm. It's been so many years since he's been gone, and there's not any lawsuits going on, and you know, like I don't think it's at a point and you and everything's done with the NC double A, right, and Rupertino in the eyes of the NC double A. I mean, he didn't do anything. I mean, I don't say he did nothing wrong because clearly he was in charge, but I mean it's not as if he had to go serve some crazy suspension from it. I mean, it's
you know, it's in it's in the rear view. So all right, SEC Basketball media days are going on right now and Cali Perry and Pope are both talking, and I'll let you hear what Mark Pope had to say, because it's really I mean, it's a it's a classy way to to answer the question. And Pope or Kelsey, by the way, have nothing at all to gain by doing anything other than praising former coaches that were there and being appreciative of the jobs that they have. They're
a nice shot in the arm. It's just refreshing. That's probably the better way to say it. It's refreshing that these guys and I don't you know, I hope Mark Popo lowses every game just because I'm a louisvill fan. But it is refreshing to have dudes that aren't, you know, completely full of themselves like Cali Perry was and Patino was. Now Patino had good reason to be. I mean he was, you know, we just accepted it. He was a larger than life figure within sports, and you know, he handled
himself away that a lot of people don't. Kenny Payne I don't know. He just I don't know. He was full of himself. Yeah yeah, but in a different way. But it's sad, like Kenny still thinks like he was a good coach here, which is just a sad thing. But here's what Pope said about Cal, and again it's the classy way to go about it. And he just says something to the very end of this clip that I know is not true, but I get why he
said it, So I'm not being critical. It's just I think we can all agree that, like, no way Kentucky fans at this point right now agree with this last part of this thirty eight second clip.
You'll never hear me say a negative word about coach Cal because there's not a lot to say. He's a Hall of Fame coach. As a diehard Kentucky fan and alumnus and former player, I'm grateful for everything, all the incredible things that Cal accomplished at the University Kentucky. And
he's also been a good friend. He's been a terrific mentor, and he's always been generous to Leanne and I as we've gone through our coaching journey, and so we wish him the best in everything that he does, and will forever be grateful for everything that he did at Kentucky and will be cheering for him every day like crazy, except for February first.
We'll be cheering for him like crazy every day until February first. He didn't need to say that last part. He didn't need to. But again, I don't have a real issue with him saying it because it's just him being nice and being taking the classy route, and I think that's what he's always going to do. From what I've gathered about Mark Pope, I think I think Mark Pope's a pretty genuine dude. I just hope he loses every game. You know, because I'm a little fan, we
all get how this works. But you can actually still say even though it's I mean, it was a breakup and it was mutual, but still like there's a motion there, right, Like Kentucky fans don't like seeing Cal doing anything well in Arkansas, whether it be recruiting, They're not going to be cheering for him to win games, as they shouldn't because he's a direct competitor now, So again he can
say that and it's just being classy. So like I think if Kentucky fans, No, deep down, yeah, he was so stubborn at the end, and it's really that he went out that way and really wasted away an elite team last year with Reed Shepherd and Rob Dillingham and Antonio Reeves and man, it probably should have ended a
couple of years sooner than it did. But I am appreciative of that era that he gave us where Kentucky was on top and we're making final fours seemingly every year every other year, like you can believe that and feel that. But now's not the time for that, right because there's no scenario that many Kentucky fans are genuinely
pulling for both Arkansas and Kentucky this year. But whenever they play each other, your go big blue like no, And that's okay, because I mean, Cal made it awkward he left to go to Arkansas, and again, you're happy he did because it led you get out of that insane situation with the contract, right, but make no mistake
about it. Right now he's the enemy, just like I mean, it's not the same scenario, but like Rick was the enemy, and well, I guess it's not a comparison at all because Rick went did the rival cal didn't really do that. But now he's in your league still and he's a direct competitor and you wanted to lose. Now, maybe if he retires five years and he didn't necessarily do well at Arkansas, maybe there will be a time where you
want him to come back and be honored. Because the first half of his tenure was pretty special, very memorable. And if you're a younger fan on the Kentucky side, like it may be really the bulk of your memory as a fan is the cal Era because it was special. So like, I get all that, but here's a scenario where you wouldn't want it to happen. And this is a real possibility. And I'm not sure if Kentucky fans have thought much about it, but this is a real possibility.
If he's really good at Arkansas, like better than he was in Kentucky, starts making deep runs again in Kentucky's just mid and he's doing the col obnoxious, arrogant stuff that he's done, and maybe you know, and you know clearly wanting to rub it in as best he can that Kentucky wanted him gone and he left, and now they got to sit with this guy, and Col's elite at Arkansas. Again, if that was to play, that may make it to a point where you would never want
him back. But hey, Tom, heals a lot of things. Maybe maybe instead of it being, you know, five years after he retires, maybe it's when he's eighty or something like. I don't know how good Cal is going to be at Arkansas. I really have no clue. I don't get the sense that he is going to change much of his approach and how he wants to play. And I just think that's not a good idea, that's not a
good fit for him. In fact, you know we talked about yesterday them being ranked in the top twenty Arkansas I think is based just off of the fact that he's there. I mean, I mean not to say he's got a terrible roster, but he's got a roster worse than what he had last year and they were they were good enough to get a good seed. But like you know, I wouldn't be shocked if Cal has slightly less successful regular seasons. But maybe maybe he does breakthrough.
And I mean, heck, is it break him through if you avoid a loss to a team like Saint Peter's or Oakland. No, it's just avoiding a disaster which he couldn't avoid twice. But here, you know, Cal, I don't have the audio of this, but the Field of sixty eight, of course is covering SEC media days and the quote I'm reading here says they picked the right guy. That was Cal on Kentucky's hiring of Mark Pope as Kentucky's new coach. Does that mean, like, I mean, that could
be a lot of things. I mean, I'll give Cal the benefit of the doubt and and assume that that meant I'm and I didn't hear it, so maybe context does matter. But like, I'll just assume that that means he's a fan of Mark Pope and thinks they got a good coach, which he would say that regardless of how he feels, because that's what coaches do. It's not like WW where they're gonna be in each other's face, like they're about to go out there and have a
scripted wrestling match. It'd be great if it was, but you know, like coaches are gonna say that. I mean, people were still calling Kenny Payn a good coach at the end of the the end of his era, like that's the ultimate sound that they're just gonna say what they're supposed to say as coaches to to a certain extent. But Cal could have meant they hired the right guy for me to go to the for me to go to Arkansas and make them miss me like crazy. Like I doubt he meant it that way, but if he did,
I wouldn't be shocked. And like, I don't know, man, And like if Cal, here's something that I probably need to reset and say more than I do, although I do probably already say it a lot. And that is that at the end of the day, both these guys have won over their fan base and momentum is in a good place for both programs to start these new eras. But we all know that like results matter and none of this stuff means a whole lot if they don't win. We all know that maybe it doesn't need to be said.
But like hearing Mark Pope and how he has handled every interview, every press conference like he's really I mean, I think he's done a great job, just like Pat Kelsey as far as making the fans fall in love with him, and there is something to be said about we would fall in love with anybody who's our coach because we want to win so badly and we just
wanted to work out. But I also think these guys are well aware that there's things they bring to the table as far as their personality, their charisma that lacked in a major way with the previous coaches. And I don't mean that Pope's thinking about Kenny Payne and Pat Kelsey is thinking about Calipari, but you know what I mean. Both they're in a similar situation to where they can bring some really refreshing aspects and components to the to
this situation that the other guys didn't have. And if you're a Kentucky fan, I'm not going to play this in its entirety because you probably don't want to hear it. But like Cal's turned into the old dude who just is trying to be like cool and sarcastic and like it it just falls flat. Like here's what Cal said
about the SEC media days today. He said that he tried to take a COVID test to see if he had it so he didn't have to come Like that's not funny, and like like Cal's bit, if you want to call it that like his his set, if you know what I mean, Like he's working like a poet, like he's doing stand up comedy, Like it's just so played out. And like if you're Arkansas, like I mean, if he wins at a high level, I'm sure you'll
be happy. But like this guy, this day and age, this is not a coach that is fun for anybody.
So yesterday I probably shouldn't tell you this, but I did a COVID test because I thought if I had COVID I wouldn't have to My wife called me and said, not happening, You're going tomorrow. So I've been to a lot of them, and it's something we have to do to Really they were really important before because we had to promote our league in basketball.
I mean, like, I know, Kentucky fans have to be so happy to not have to hear that kind of stuff again from your coach. And maybe sometimes it doesn't need to be said, but it certainly seemed like towards the end of Caliperry like he didn't appreciate the fact that he had what a lot of people view as the best job in his industry, a job that provided him a contract that nobody would else, nobody else would
give him. I mean, he's got a good deal at Arkansas, making a lot of money, but he had a much better situation in Kentucky for being honest as far as the contract, and he didn't appreciate that at all. He truly felt like he was bigger than that program and that they should always be forever in debt to him because he's there to coach the program, and like that had to become so stale. Same thing with Kenny Payne.
I mean, Kenny didn't really say a whole lot that you know that had any substance to it that I can remember, But you know, he clearly didn't appreciate the fact that he had. I mean, he didn't work, he didn't like try, he didn't recruit like he you know, one thing to be really bad. The guy didn't even try, it seemed. And you know there's people who worked with him that'll tell you that he didn't even try, especially
towards the end. So to have coaches around here that make it quite clear, and I think it is genuine that they are in heaven with the roles they have. As a fan, you can't hear that enough. Now again, if they don't win, that's gonna make it tough. But these guys are so refreshing. And I don't mean just from like a fans perspective, because I know some LoVa fans don't care about what Mark Pope says, and Kentucky fans don't, or some you know in Kentucky fans don't
care about what Pat Kelsey says. But I can tell you somebody who talks about these two coaches in these programs and always will unless I end up doing something else later in life. You know, it just became stale with cal and with you know, with Kenny, it was just, you know, a disaster. But anyways, quick break will come back on the other side of wrap this thing up.
It's coffee and Company fueled by thorns right here on Sports Talk seven ninety right, so Cody Wright said and says Nick, is they're a chance that we end up with two guys that, despite this being a hatred, heated I'm sorry, heated rivalry, we end up finding it hard to dislike the rivals coach. Yes and no. I think you can like put it this way. I don't think that Mark Stoops comes off as like a really easy
to dislike guy. He's not like lovable, but like he doesn't like you know, I don't mind Mark Stoops, but he coaches Kentucky, so I hope he loses every game just because of the rivalry. Tobby Smith was great. He was a guy that was hard not to like, but make no mistake about it, I wanted him to lose every single game he plays. So yeah, I mean, I think these guys will probably not be you know, hateable, because that's just not really their personalities at all, regardless
if they're successful or not. But I just think, you know, it's it's something you can't control if you're I guess sick and twisted like me, And I know there's many of us out there that are sick and twisted that loves nothing more than to root against your rival. I mean, you like rooting on your team more. But other than that,
it's whoever they're playing, let's hope they win. And even though we you know, like col was a perfect villain to be honest with you like he was, I mean he was perfect for the mean other I mean he was perfect for them because he did a good job of like making us not like him, but also like he beat us a lot, and I hope that it doesn't happen with Mark Pope, but we'll see, all right. When it comes to your pets, you need to have a plan in case there's an emergency. And you can't
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